Debates of March 6th, 2013

This is page numbers 2389 – 2428 of the Hansard for the 17th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was community .

Topics

Oral Questions

Members Present

Prayer

Department Of Justice Human Resources Plan For The Future

Long John Jamboree, March 14-17, 2013

Small Scale Foods Program Under Growing Forward Agreement

Information And Privacy Legislation For Municipal Government

Discretionary Leave For Teachers Coaching Community Sports

NWT Electoral Boundaries Commission

Inuvik-Tuktoyaktuk Highway

Protected Areas Strategy For The Edehzhie

Mackenzie Valley Winter Road Trip

Minister’s Forum On Addictions And Community Wellness

Inuvik-Tuktoyaktuk Highway Project

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Mackenzie Valley Winter Road

Leave For Teachers Coaching Community Sports

Development Of Youth Symposium

Growing Forward 2 Agreement And Small Scale Foods Program

Economic Benefits Of Inuvik To Tuktoyaktuk Highway

Minister’s Forum On Addictions And Community Wellness

Skills Canada NWT And Jobs For Youth

Training Activities In The Sahtu

Tlicho Winter Road To Fortune Minerals Site

Written Question 7-17(4): Distribution Of GNWT Jobs

Bill 2:

An Act To Amend The Territorial Parks Act

Tabled Document 39-17(4): GNWT Positions To Population Ratio As At December 31, 2012

Tabled Document 40-17(4): GNWT Response To Committee Report 6-17(3), Report On Hydraulic Fracturing Study Tour: Toward A Policy Framework For Hydraulic Fracturing In The Northwest Territories

Appointment Of Acting Clerk Of The Legislative Assembly

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Report of Committee of the Whole

Orders of the Day

The House met at 1:31 p.m.

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Prayer

Prayer

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Good afternoon, colleagues. Item 2, Ministers’ statements. The honourable Minister of Justice , Mr. Abernethy .

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Minister's Statement 40-17(4): Department Of Justice Human Resources Plan For The Future

Ministers’ Statements

Great Slave

Glen Abernethy

Minister of Justice

Mr. Speaker, through their ability to motivate and serve as role models, many staff in the Department of Justice make a significant difference in the lives of people in the Northwest Territories.

In our 10-year strategic plan we made a commitment to our staff – and ultimately the public they serve – to build and maintain a strong foundation at the Department of Justice. The first step towards this goal is to create an effective human resources plan.

Our plan will build and support a northern workforce. To do this, we will make ongoing investments in our over 500 employees, many of whom work in high-risk environments. They work with offenders or support people in crisis or transition. Both front-line and management staff need to have appropriate training so they have the tools, resources and support to fulfill their duties while maintaining the safety and well-being of their clients, colleagues, themselves and the public.

Most Justice staff work in the corrections field in Hay River, Fort Smith and in the two facilities in the North Slave region. Our facilities operate 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Our probation officers work in communities throughout the Northwest Territories. These corrections positions can be stressful and we see frequent turnover.

The department also has specialists in the legal field who represent the government in court, draft legislation, or help families and individuals in their legal issues. Our professional staff ensure courts have the support necessary to see justice served

throughout our system and perform the necessary functions to ensure the smooth running of government systems. Our people have great experience and extensive training; they are a talented collection of individuals.

To ensure we are listening to our staff in a manner that is both meaningful and effective, we offered each employee an opportunity to participate in focus groups on HR issues. Corrections staff participated one on one with an independent surveyor to answer questions about their training and working environment. To ensure replies were anonymous, all personal identifiers were removed. We are using all of this information to develop the human resources plan.

The results were interesting, Mr. Speaker. Employees trusted us enough to provide honest answers. We found the majority of our staff enjoy their jobs, their co-workers and the department as a whole. They feel their work is challenging and interesting. They were also clear about the work that needs to be done. Our management teams are preparing to address these issues.

We will plan for succession in management positions and operations that are vulnerable to staffing changes. As well, we will be refining the recruitment and training model used for corrections and courts to encourage NWT residents to consider joining us in a career in the justice field.

By strengthening our capacity and resiliency, we will maintain the strong foundation that allows us to provide change and gives innovation room to thrive. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 40-17(4): Department Of Justice Human Resources Plan For The Future

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . Item 3, Members’ statements. The honourable Member for Range Lake , Mr. Dolynny .

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Long John Jamboree, March 14-17, 2013

Members’ Statements

Daryl Dolynny

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. According to the Long John Jamboree website, in exactly seven days, 21 hours, 24 minutes and 46 seconds, Yellowknife will enjoy and host our 2nd Annual Long John Jamboree on the ice of the Great Slave Lake in Yellowknife Bay.

My praise and admiration goes out to the many organizers and volunteers that are working feverishly behind the scenes in preparation for one of the “Gotta Go!” winter festivals in Canada.

The organizers for this year are promising even more great events and activities both on and off the ice. We’ve been promised the return of the kids’ tent, music, Terriers and Tiaras, Flaunt your Skivvies, ice hockey, the Snowking Festival, fireworks, artisans, and the MLAs’ favorite, the ultimate trivia contest.

This trivia contest is where the Yellowknife MLAs teach the local media teams a thing or two about overall knowledge and the supremacy of smartness.

We know that CBC narrowly won last year because of Mr. Paul Andrew anchoring the team. However, this year, Mr. Speaker, the Yellowknife MLA team has been training for months and we’ve been put on a restrictive diet of contraband Bathurst caribou meat and Sahtu special tea.

It would be rude of me not to mention last year’s third and last place Northern News Service team; however, like in any competition, who really remembers the bronze medalists anyway? Sorry, Mr. Mike Bryant, but you know that’s the truth.

Mr. Speaker, it is also important to mention the return of the De Beers-inspired ice carving competition. This is only one of four “big block” harvested ice competitions in the world. It is now deemed the final event of the season for the National Ice Carving Association circuit.

Events like this do not just happen on their own. It takes leadership and commitment to see such a success transpire. Therefore, I would like to thank these Yellowknife volunteer leaders for making this all possible: Adrian Bell, Julia Mott, Cory Vanthuyne, Michelle Demeule, Janet Pacey, Jacqueline McKinnon, Claire Smith, Brad Morrissey, Andre Corbeil, Keith McNeill and Nancy McNeill.

In closing, I would encourage all Yellowknifers and visiting Northerners to make an effort to come down to Yellowknife Bay during March 14th to 17th and

see what all the excitement is about.

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Long John Jamboree, March 14-17, 2013

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny . The honourable Member for Weledeh , Mr. Bromley .

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Small Scale Foods Program Under Growing Forward Agreement

Members’ Statements

Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Here is a story familiar to communities all over the North. The government guy comes to town in his government truck loaded with his expensive equipment and know-how. He’s there to help. He asks directions, drives to the site and gets to work.

Locals watch curiously as another government project takes shape. Days pass and stuff happens until, duty done, the government guy loads up and is gone. Who was that masked man?

From what I hear, that’s a pretty good description of the ITI delivery model for the Small Scale Foods Program under the Growing Forward Agreement. The ITI agricultural worker has spent the annual $245,000 in funding. Yes, we have dutifully tallied the mounting number of local gardens spreading across our communities. Yes, we can claim 30 community gardens, but feedback indicates that’s a very hollow claim.

In contrast, modest investments or contributions to non-government organizations like the Territorial Farmers Association, Ecology North and the Arctic Energy Alliance have netted real community engagement, buy-in and capacity building. The Lutselk’e, Simpson and Fort Resolution community gardens are great examples. Watered and weeded by gardeners in the making, the communities harvest the bounty of their own care and attention. Nothing tastes so good. Beyond that, though, community residents very soon use new-found skills and enthusiasm to take on leadership roles themselves.

Fortunately, I have begun hearing that government has realized the drive or fly in, put in the garden, and leave modus operandi is less than ideal. Gardens and gardeners don’t grow untended. The Minister’s office says three ITI regional offices will be taking on delivery of the Small Scale Foods Program. While I’m happy to support regional roles, I am leery of seeing new positions carry on in the same old way. Based on real partnership results, the approach should be to enhance meaningful support of groups that know how to do community outreach and capacity building.

We’re talking about supporting a school of agriculture with funds from Growing Forward 2. A community-wise component of local engagement and mobilization should be part of that new curriculum. Community folks are saying that drive-by gardens don’t work. Let’s use a proven approach that emphasizes local control with efficient non-government organization expertise to build self-reliance.

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Small Scale Foods Program Under Growing Forward Agreement

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . The honourable Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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Information And Privacy Legislation For Municipal Government

Members’ Statements

Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. One of the statutory officers of this Assembly is the Information and Privacy Commissioner. The commissioner does excellent work, not only carrying out her regular duties but also advocating for areas in need

of further attention. Unfortunately, the government is not heeding all of her recommendations.

For almost 10 years now the Information and Privacy Commissioner has recommended that this government amend the Access to Information and Protection of Privacy legislation, ATIPP, to include municipal governments under the act. This has yet to happen. The most recent Information and Privacy Commissioner Annual Report, 2011-2012, again highlighted this need. The NWT Association of Communities has resolutions on their books for the past six years asking for a change in legislation.

Each year the Information and Privacy Commissioner receives a number of complaints from residents about municipal actions, specifically the way municipalities are collecting, using, or disclosing personal information. In 2011-2012 there were two such privacy complaints about municipalities but they weren’t actioned because the Information and Privacy Commissioner has no authority or jurisdiction under the ATIPP Act to deal with complaints against municipalities. Even when the Information and Privacy Commissioner tried to engage these two municipalities in discussions around the protection of privacy of employee information and policy, she was refused.

Currently, without access and privacy legislation applying to municipalities, there are no legislative constraints on NWT municipalities. Even though they all collect and retain significant amounts of personal information about their citizens and their employees, there is no oversight and no recourse for citizens when information is improperly used, nor are there any rules which allow citizens access to the information that municipalities create and collect.

I realize that municipalities face capacity and staffing issues, but the government, through MACA, has to accept responsibility to help their communities, to help them with ATIPP. But the burden on municipalities, if they are included under ATIPP, is acceptable when compared to the potential violation of individuals’ rights to privacy and protection of their own information. Of all Canadian jurisdictions, the three territories are the only ones without information and privacy legislation for municipalities. It’s long past time for this government to take action on amending the ATIPP Act. It really must be made a priority. Mr. Speaker, as you like to say, let’s get ‘er done.

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Information And Privacy Legislation For Municipal Government

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . The Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Discretionary Leave For Teachers Coaching Community Sports

Members’ Statements

Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Something very troubling has come to my attention

and I feel the need to raise this issue in the House today.

Last week a letter went to parents of biathlon athletes in my community from their long-time coach, who is also a teacher in Hay River. Although I cannot read the whole letter in my Member’s statement, I would like to draw your attention to some parts of this letter. It reads:

“It is with much sadness and disappointment that I must share with everyone that I will be stepping down as the head coach of the Hay River Biathlon Team and Ski Club. I will finish out the season and continue to lead practices and coordinate the Polar Cup races and the Ptub races this year.

My reason for having to step down is the ongoing lack of support, which I have received over the years from my employer when it comes to volunteering and coaching the Hay River Biathlon Team. The latest reminder of this came when I required one hour of class time off in order to leave with the team, only to be told that I would have to apply for a half-day of discretionary leave and be responsible for covering the cost of a substitute teacher with being away, despite having another teacher offer to fill in for me for that one hour. As a teacher, I do not have lieu time or annual leave that I can draw from, so there are no options when your request for leave is denied.

This is just an example of numerous other requests in the past to coach our team, but with similar feedback. I feel that I am put in a position in which I am continually letting our athletes down as I cannot travel with them to competitions, especially after many, many weeks and months of preparation that we put in leading up to these competitions. It has been explained to me that the reason for this is that biathlon is not a school sport and, therefore, I am not entitled to the same leave as a basketball coach, for example.”

The letter goes on to explain the reasons why he decided to step down.

This teacher has been coaching in Hay River for more than 10 years. He has poured himself into his work, dedicating hundreds of hours each season, sacrificing his time and efforts to offer his services on a voluntary basis. It is not easy to find people who are willing, capable and qualified to make this type of commitment, and our government, unfortunately, does little to support teachers that coach outside of school sports. This teacher was only requesting a short amount of time from the workplace to be with these athletes. He is coaching kids, providing opportunities for them to be involved in sport within Hay River. He is also on the Hay River Ski Club and NWT Biathlon Board, and works

to fundraise and plan for many opportunities for our youth.

It is also incredibly demoralizing to put so much into a program and then have so little support and recognition from your employer.

I’d like to seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted

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Discretionary Leave For Teachers Coaching Community Sports

Members’ Statements

Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

The only games that are covered by the Human Resource Manual for approved leave are that associated with Arctic Winter Games, Canada Winter Games or national level championships. There is no leave for work as a teacher in our community with a group of youth outside the school setting. This is further compounded by the messages in the media that you hear about the importance of volunteering and giving back to the youth in our community.

Youth are a very high priority of this government, and I don’t think we should distinguish between school sports and community sports. I don’t think that money can buy the kind of contribution that a coach like this makes, and it’s not the fault of the school and it’s not the fault of the principal. It is a policy that needs to be looked at.

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Discretionary Leave For Teachers Coaching Community Sports

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . The Member for Hay River North , Mr. Bouchard .

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NWT Electoral Boundaries Commission

Members’ Statements

Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I rise to discuss one of the commissions that are going around the Northwest Territories, the NWT Electoral Boundaries Commission. I’d like to talk about this commission and its involvement throughout the communities. Right now they are in the process of doing public consultation and we’ve given them direction to go out in the Northwest Territories and get opinions from the residents of the Northwest Territories to see what we do for electoral districts. Do we want 18, 19 or 21 MLAs?

They had a meeting last night in Hay River and it was very poorly attended, sadly to say. I just want to encourage all the Members and everybody else in the Northwest Territories, to attend the upcoming events. There is one on K’atlodeeche tonight at Chief Lamalice Complex from 7:00 until 9:00. Tomorrow, on Thursday night, there is one in Lutselk’e. Next week we have one, on March 10th ,

in Inuvik. There is one in Aklavik on March 11th , one

in Yellowknife here on March 12th and one in Detah

on March 13th . The commission is also taking

submissions either on-line, at www.nwtboundaries.ca, or you can write the Commissioner and give your comments there. We need public input into this important issue. As MLAs, we will be deciding the fate of the future of

the Northwest Territories, but we need feedback from the general public and we need to hear from them. Thank you very much.

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NWT Electoral Boundaries Commission

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bouchard . The honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake , Mr. Moses .

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Inuvik-Tuktoyaktuk Highway

Members’ Statements

Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I’m going to be speaking on the Inuvik-Tuk highway. Yesterday we had a couple of strong statements and some questions in the House that gives a perception out there that our government is actually hiding something in terms of moving forward on this project and that deals are being done behind closed doors.

I sat here and I listened to it, and I felt that I had to say something today that we do have a process, and that process is waiting for the right correspondence from the federal government. The Minister sat up in the House yesterday. He explained himself. He answered the questions as best he could, but when he was answering, he was also mentioning that some of the information that some Members were seeking was also confidential.

We are very lucky in this House, and as legislators and as MLAs, to get some of this confidential information to help us make the right decisions that we have to make. There is a process for it. When the time is ready, it comes down into the House and we make that decision. I felt that it was unfair to the Minister and unfair to the House that we did have some Members questioning the Minister and trying to get the Minister to bring confidential information out into the public. Obviously, we are going to bring confidential information to the public. Obviously, we are going to bring this information to the public, but there is a process for it.

I just wanted to bring this out because I felt that although we know it in this House, the perception, the way it was stated yesterday, there is perception in the public that the government is hiding documents and hiding information and I don’t feel that is the case.

This is a big project. Obviously, I am in support of the Inuvik-Tuk highway for many reasons. A lot of them were discussed in the House. A lot of them were discussed in Members’ statements and Ministers’ statements, but mainly it’s for people in my region, in the Beaufort-Delta region and the community of Inuvik, looking at some of the stats for income support. We have an increase in the amount of dollars that our government is providing for people that are on income assistance right now. We have an increase in the amount of people that are applying to income assistance. We’re getting houses that are foreclosing in the community of

Inuvik. This is not only providing infrastructure for the government, for the region, but it’s doing something that’s bigger in terms of Canada and the nation bringing our nation together closer, coast to coast to coast and building infrastructure to each coast.

I wanted to bring that up in the House today, that there is perception out there. I want to let the public know that we are following due course on this project, and when we do have information, it will become public. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Inuvik-Tuktoyaktuk Highway

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Moses . The honourable Member for Deh Cho , Mr. Nadli .

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Protected Areas Strategy For The Edehzhie

Members’ Statements

Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. This week Canada agreed in writing to complete the final stages of their Protected Areas Strategy initiative to establish a co-managed national wildlife area of the Edehzhie. The federal government has also agreed to pay the cost of the litigation of the Dehcho First Nations. In return, Dehcho First Nations have agreed to withdraw their judicial review application.

Today Grand Chief Herb Norwegian said that he would renew calls for the Dehcho First Nations to the Harper government, to work with them to complete the process of protecting Edehzhie and establishing a co-management regime. The Dehcho First Nations has always been committed to the protection of this important area and that will never change. It’s a shame that we had to sue Canada to get the Harper government to honour its obligation, but we are very satisfied with the results of Grand Chief Herb Norwegian. Mahsi.

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Protected Areas Strategy For The Edehzhie

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Nadli . The Member for the Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Mackenzie Valley Winter Road Trip

Members’ Statements

Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Last weekend I had the opportunity to drive the Mackenzie Valley winter road with Minister Ramsay . Over 700 kilometres through God’s country makes a guy feel a little poetic. I want to share with my colleagues here today some of the things that were going through my mind.

Almost heaven, just past Wrigley, Mackenzie Mountains, Deh Cho Big River. The roads get rough here, rough as any seas. Holes and bumps and ridges, spilling coffee on my knees.

Winter road, get me home to the place I belong. Sahtu country, Great Bear River, get me home, winter road.

All the oil companies gathering up there. The ice couldn’t take it, trucks waiting in Nahendeh. Lots of big loads heading north for resupply, it’s a race against springtime under the northern sky.

Winter roads, get me home to the place I belong. Sahtu country, Hare Skin River, get me home, winter roads.

I hear the geese, way down south. Now as they call to me, make me daydream, about blasting and plucking this May. Bouncing down the road I get a feeling, the all-weather road highway should have been built yesterday. Yesterday, Mr. Speaker.

So with that I’d like to say thank you to Minister Ramsay for braving the winter road with me and I hope, now that he’s experienced it he will agree that we need an all-weather road yesterday. Thank you.

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Mackenzie Valley Winter Road Trip

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . The Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Minister’s Forum On Addictions And Community Wellness

Members’ Statements

Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister of Health and Social Services did a Minister’s statement on the Forum on Addictions and Community Wellness. I want to quote a couple of things. It says not one community in the entire Northwest Territories can claim to be free from health and social problems caused by addictive behaviour.

That beginning statement is very telling about the problems we’re having here in the Northwest Territories. I believe in prevention and, certainly, enhancing established treatment facilities, as the Minister has highlighted in his statement, but I think we need to go just a little bit further. We need to draw the line and say we need to establish true treatment facilities to address these types of problems.

I thank the Minister who has offered two detox centres and two in Inuvik, I believe he said, or sorry, detox beds, my apologies there, but I think that only is just a re-profiling of what we already do. Are they just going to be re-profiled spots at the hospital? I liken it to what the federal government does. They keep announcing decisions already made about new money. It is something we’re already doing? Are these new beds that he’s talking about?

I applaud the government, on the other hand, when they talk about $9 million annually on counselling and treatment. This is a relentless fight. I will not give up on those people who need help, because hard drugs are a challenge out there. There’s not a month that goes by that somebody calls to talk about their children. I can’t say this call comes everywhere, but I can definitely attest that this type

of call comes in every month that someone talks about their partner, their friend, their children with these types of problems. We are in a position to better people’s lives.

I worry about this Addictions Forum group. Are they just going to restate what the endless amounts of reports, experts and studies have already told us to do? They’ve told the government to act, but now they decided to strike a new committee. I also fear that laypersons will be helping to drive government policy when we’ve had many experts who’ve already pointed out the right direction. Although they mean well, I just worry we are taking on a topic that they don’t bring the skills to the table.

I will be asking the Minister questions about giving us an update as to what this forum has said and heard. I want to make it absolutely clear, my last point here for the day, that I certainly support the principles of things like on-the-land programming and to that I will stand with my colleagues, but I fear that it may appear taboo to say, this but no on-the-land program will help people with hard drugs such as crack and meth.

I will have questions during the appropriate time later today and I look forward to the answers by the Minister.

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Minister’s Forum On Addictions And Community Wellness

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Blake .

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Inuvik-Tuktoyaktuk Highway Project

Members’ Statements

Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A lot has been said in this House in recent days about the proposed highway between Inuvik and Tuktoyaktuk. There has been so much talk about cost overruns that I was starting to wonder if I had missed the start of construction. Of course, we know that the decision has not yet been made. Critics of the project are so fixated on costs that they downplay the most important fact: The Inuvik-Tuk highway is a great investment in our economy and future. The benefits are huge. There will be hundreds of jobs building the road for people in the Mackenzie Delta, Inuvik and Nunakput areas.

Many of these jobs will last for several years and possibly much longer if the Mackenzie Valley Highway Project goes ahead. There will be many business opportunities and most of the work will go to northern contractors.

I do want to throw in a word of caution here. Gwich’in businesses have not always had a fair shake in getting government contracts in the ISR and that must not happen on the Inuvik-Tuk highway.

This project will turn around the weak economy that we have had for so many years in the Beaufort-Delta. Our young people will see that they have a way to get ahead and support their families. They

will see that going to school is important. We need these jobs. Every year the cost of living goes up and up, and with the cost of electricity and fuel, and groceries and everything else, our people need opportunities besides income support. Once it is finished, the Inuvik-Tuk highway will bring down the cost of living in Tuk and open new opportunities there including tourism, especially if the increased investment dollars that can promote all the Delta has to offer. If we build it, they will come.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Blake . Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Ramsay .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to welcome a constituent, Ms. Lone Sorensen, in the gallery.

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . Item 6, acknowledgements. Item 7, oral questions. The honourable Member for Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Question 188-17(4): Mackenzie Valley Winter Road

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When Mr. Ramsay and I went on a winter road trip, we drove to Fort Good Hope and to Fort Simpson. On our way from Fort Good Hope to Fort Simpson we stopped, and there was a bridge there at Oscar Creek. I want to ask the Minister what his plans are from his department having that huge bridge, I think it’s over a million dollars of infrastructure, sitting there. What are his plans with his department to get it fixed and used?

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Question 188-17(4): Mackenzie Valley Winter Road

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . The honourable Minister of Transportation , Mr. David Ramsay .

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Question 188-17(4): Mackenzie Valley Winter Road

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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

Minister of Transportation

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I enjoyed the Member’s song earlier. It was a good song. Good trip with the Member down the Mackenzie Valley. We did see a number of things. One of them was the bridge at Oscar Creek. We took a number of pictures of that bridge. There was some engineering that went a bit awry back about 10 years ago on that bridge. When I got back in the office on Monday, I had an opportunity to talk to the department about the Oscar Creek Bridge and what was happening with that. There are plans to use the bridge on Oscar Creek.

It might not be in the location that it’s in currently, but there are plans to realign the all-weather road with that bridge. Plans are in the works and I’ve impressed upon the department that that should happen sooner rather than later.

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

It was a long bumpy road and I want to ask the Minister, with all the work going on in the Sahtu, and next year Good Hope is going to get busy on that section, I want to ask the Minister if he could put pressure on his colleagues in the department to get that bridge. The bridge is there because of the engineering that wasn’t done properly. Could the Minister press his department to get that bridge? There’s over a million dollars in infrastructure sitting there.

They might as well just bring that Oscar Creek Bridge and put it right in front of the Legislative Assembly because that’s all it’s doing is just sitting there. It’s an embarrassment. Taxpayers are paying for this and I want to ask the department if they could speed up putting that bridge into operation.

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Question 188-17(4): Mackenzie Valley Winter Road

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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

Minister of Transportation

That happened about 10 years ago with the location of putting the bridge in its current location. It does need to be moved. It’s a sizable piece of infrastructure that would require probably looking at relocation and realigning on more of the all-weather road alignment of the highway. It is going to take a capital investment of probably somewhere in the magnitude of $2 million to $3 million, I would imagine, to move the bridge and put it where it needs to be. It is in the works and I can assure the Member, having seen it for myself, that bridge will be moved as soon as we can possibly move it.

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Question 188-17(4): Mackenzie Valley Winter Road

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

The people in the Sahtu are very happy, even over the last couple of days. The people in Tulita are very happy that the Minister has taken the trip and driven down. The Minister knows the conditions that we have to put up with day in and day out in the Sahtu.

I want to ask the Minister, amongst the other bridges, we looked at Bob’s Canyon and that’s a disaster waiting to happen. The number of trucks that we passed along Strawberry Creek. Will these bridges be fixed so that we can have some safety next year on our winter roads?

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Question 188-17(4): Mackenzie Valley Winter Road

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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

Minister of Transportation

We had the opportunity to stop into Wrigley. We talked with the band manager. The Member and I both had the opportunity to drive through Bob’s Canyon and Strawberry Creek. Pehdzeh Ki Contractors, the folks in Wrigley are doing work on both of those areas. Not all of the work is going to be concluded this year. We will continue to work on some of that next season, but certainly from a safety perspective, Bob’s Canyon, when we did get back to Yellowknife on Monday I instructed the department to address the concern with the ruts in the road at Bob’s Canyon and they had somebody get on that right away. That was addressed immediately.

The work will get done there. We have highlighted both Bob’s Canyon and Strawberry Creek as areas of high priority from a safety perspective, and we

are working toward the completion of those projects.

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Question 188-17(4): Mackenzie Valley Winter Road

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . Final supplementary, Mr. Yakeleya .

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Question 188-17(4): Mackenzie Valley Winter Road

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There were a couple of spots that we went on the Mackenzie Valley Highway. There’s one called Washboard Lane and Pothole Valley. I want to ask the Minister, is the Arctic paving program going to increase the dollars for the oil companies, because those number, maybe 1,500 or 1,600 trucks are pounding the roads in the Mackenzie Valley. If the Minister can look at some funding to increase the Arctic paving program in the Mackenzie Valley, that will certainly help our people and probably will save a lot of lives.

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Question 188-17(4): Mackenzie Valley Winter Road

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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

Minister of Transportation

The Member and I probably saw about 60 trucks heading north, just on the Saturday alone, driving from Norman Wells to Wrigley. We need to continue working with industry. This past winter season we’ve had an investment of $1.2 million, through partnerships with industry, for enhancements on the winter road. Next season we anticipate that work going a little bit further north towards Fort Good Hope. Our anticipation is that industry will want to continue to work with the Government of the Northwest Territories on ways to enhance the winter road.

That includes applying water to the road to build up the base so it lasts longer and is more durable. All indications are that industry will want to continue to be our partner in this effort in advance of us having an all-weather road down the Mackenzie Valley.

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Question 188-17(4): Mackenzie Valley Winter Road

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The honourable Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . The honourable Minister of Finance , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Thebacha

Michael Miltenberger

Minister of Finance

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Member raised a good point and identified a need in terms of having proper structure

in place. There has been a meeting of senior officials as it pertains to that particular policy. They have done the initial scoping out, they are establishing a work plan and they intend to come back in the fall with a fleshed out policy.

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thanks to the Minister. It’s good to hear government at work and moving quickly. That’s wonderful. I’d like to ask the Minister whether or not he can give me any idea of the gist of what’s going to be in the policy. Are there any, sort of, general directions that were given to these senior officials that they were sent away with to develop a policy?

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Thebacha

Michael Miltenberger

Minister of Finance

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thanks to the Minister. One of the concerns that I had was with the need for the government to both remain impartial and be seen to be impartial. Is that a focus of what this group of officials is working on?

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Thebacha

Michael Miltenberger

Minister of Finance

The folks are taking close note of the discussion and debate in this House. The Member has raised some legitimate, pertinent concerns, including the one she just articulated, and yes, we’re going to list all those concerns and then see what’s the best way forward in terms of coming up with an adequate and functional policy.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . Final supplementary, Ms. Bisaro .

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thanks to the Minister. My last question, then, has to do with whether or not any kind of a draft will come before standing committee to give Members on this side of the House some opportunity to have input into a policy.

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Thebacha

Michael Miltenberger

Minister of Finance

Yes.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Question 190-17(4): Leave For Teachers Coaching Community Sports

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In my Member’s statement I talked about the need for some discretionary latitude in the granting of leave to teachers who may be involved in volunteering in very worthwhile efforts on behalf of

promoting healthy, engaged youth in our communities. If the government doesn’t think that these kind of volunteers make a difference in our communities, we need only point to a young man like Brendan Green, who made it all the way to the Olympics, and he did so as a result of the volunteer coaches in Hay River that started him off and got him going on his sport.

I’d like to ask the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment how do we change a policy that would give the principal of a school the discretionary latitude to grant leave for a teacher to be involved in these activities. Is it a policy at this government level? Is it at the DEA level? Is there a regulation? Is there a human resources manual? How could we go about making amendments to something like that so that we can grant our school principals and our teachers more flexibility?

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Question 190-17(4): Leave For Teachers Coaching Community Sports

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I do agree with Mrs. Groenewegen that these teachers that do volunteer work are invaluable to the team and they make a difference to the students’ lives, even the athletes’ lives, so we must support them as best as we can. This is the first I’ve heard of the incident but, definitely, this is an area that we need to follow through with the DEA, and I need to work closely with my colleague, as well, in HR. We all need to work together on this on what’s best for the students and how we can have those individuals, the resource team available for these athletes.

It’s based on some time off and so forth. There is also an agreement with the NWTTA and so forth, so there are different agreements that we have to work with, but I will commit to the Member that I will be working closely with HR and the DEA on this particular work.

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Question 190-17(4): Leave For Teachers Coaching Community Sports

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

The Minister has indicated he didn’t hear of this before, and perhaps I should have drawn this to his attention in a less public way, but I understand this has been a situation that has been ongoing for volunteers and coaches who are teachers for some time now, so I thought perhaps there would have been other incidents like this raised.

I want to reiterate that I’m not finding any fault. Teachers don’t like to complain, and this teacher is not finding any fault with the people who are his superiors. What he is saying, and what I’m saying, is that we need a more flexible policy. I’d like to ask the Minister how will he – I know he’s going to consult with the Minister of HR because it is the HR Manual that needs to be talked about here – engage school authorities at the superintendent level or at the DEA level to make sure that there is support for a change like this.

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Question 190-17(4): Leave For Teachers Coaching Community Sports

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

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department, I’ve just got a note that they’ve been in touch with the superintendent to try and find the background of the situation itself, so we are trying

to find a remedy towards this particular area. As you know, we want every athlete to be successful, so that’s an area that we need to tackle. This is a GNWT policy and NWT Collective Agreement policy as well. There are several areas that we need to deal with and develop guidelines towards that. Again, I need to work with HR and the DEA. They’re getting a clear message now. My department has already been in touch with the DEA, the superintendent, and working through the logistics of how we can support these teachers towards their time off.

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

I’d like to ask the Minister if he has previous experience with bringing about such a change or a policy of this nature. I’m just wondering what kind of a time frame we might be looking at. What’s involved in terms of the approvals and getting that new rule or regulation or policy out to the folks that are in a position to approve leave? What kind of a time frame might we be looking at to accomplish all of that?

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Question 190-17(4): Leave For Teachers Coaching Community Sports

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

I don’t recall encountering this kind of incident in the past. There might have been a couple before. The time frame, I need to seriously look at this. As I’ve stated, this is the first event, but I will be working with the Department of Human Resources, and also the NWTTA and within GNWT policy itself, and working with the DEA. We need to involve them, the superintendent. We’ll try and expedite this process as best as we can. Again, there are parties involved, so we need to engage with the parties. If the changes are going to be made, they need to be involved as well.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Final, short supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Question 190-17(4): Leave For Teachers Coaching Community Sports

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d just, finally, like to ask the Minister, if he does get any push back from any of the people that need to be consulted with or there are any people that don’t necessarily agree with where we are going with this and he requires any other political support from the Members of this House, if he does get push back towards this idea, will he agree to inform us so that we can be fully aware of that?

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Most definitely. We need to work with all Members on this particular work, because it does impact across the Northwest Territories, the 33 communities, the DEAs, the NWTTA. If there is a push back, then I need to work with the Members.

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Question 190-17(4): Leave For Teachers Coaching Community Sports

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . The Member for Inuvik Boot Lake , Mr. Moses .

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Question 191-17(4): Development Of Youth Symposium

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today we had a really good briefing from Skills Canada NWT

and it got me thinking about youth programs and all the programs that they do with such a small office. But it got me thinking to a bigger level, and today I have questions for the Minister of Youth in regard to possibly the creation or the development of a youth symposium.

First of all, I just want to ask the Minister of Youth , has there ever been a youth symposium for youth providers of the Northwest Territories, in his knowledge as the Minister of Youth . Has there ever been a youth symposium where providers for youth programs come together and discuss some of the challenges and success stories? That’s my first question.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Moses . The Minister responsible for Youth , Mr. McLeod.

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Question 191-17(4): Development Of Youth Symposium

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There are many opportunities for those that provide service to youth to come together on an informal basis and have discussions on how to improve the programs for youth. In the previous Assembly, I think the Premier at the time had a Premier ’s forum with the youth and had a lot of providers there, a lot of youth workers, a lot of youth that were there. It was well attended, and the suggestions that came out of this forum for the age of the kids that took

part in this forum were unbelievable. They did an excellent job. I mean, there are always opportunities for youth providers to gather. As far as an actual symposium goes, it’s something that we’d have to have a look at.

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Question 191-17(4): Development Of Youth Symposium

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

We have some really great youth programs out there, Youth Ambassador Program, Northern Youth Abroad Program. Skills Canada is doing a great job. We do all these programs to empower our youth. Is there something that we can do to empower our volunteers and empower our youth, our workforce who provide these programs to the youth? I guess my question is: Would the Minister be willing to look at creating, coordinating and planning for a youth symposium for our volunteers for our workforce who provide these programs for youth so that they can share their stories, so that they can work the challenges?

It would also be a good opportunity to report and evaluate on the programs that MACA and the Minister of Youth provide such as the Youth Corps and the Youth Contributions Program. Would the Minister be willing to look, coordinate and plan a youth symposium for youth, workers and volunteers?

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

I will commit to the Member that I will start having discussions with the officials over at MACA about hosting such a symposium and keep Members apprised as to going forward, and if there’s a possibility of having it, we’ll make sure we have an opportunity to invite all Members of the Assembly.

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Question 191-17(4): Development Of Youth Symposium

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

I think it’s a great idea and it’s an opportunity to evaluate programs, share what the programs are, an opportunity for organizations to give details on the programs that they provide so other organizations can jump on board, and also develop some really great partnerships. It would be an opportunity for the youth ambassadors to probably coordinate such a symposium. A lot of positives here. Can the Minister provide, possibly, a timeline, whether this is something that we can see in the ’13-14 fiscal year or ’14-15 fiscal year?

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Question 191-17(4): Development Of Youth Symposium

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, there are many opportunities for those that provide service to youth to network. We have a number of events that go on across the Northwest Territories at any given time where they could network and share some of their success stories and work with each other. However, I have committed to the Member that I will work with the officials and see about putting on a symposium.

As far as the timeline goes, once I have those discussions, I think I’ll be in a better position to give a definite date as to when we plan on having it. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Weledeh , Mr. Bromley .

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Question 192-17(4): Growing Forward 2 Agreement And Small Scale Foods Program

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to follow up on my Member’s statement earlier today with questions for the Minister of ITI . I do note, in the gallery today, Ms. Lone Sorensen. She has played a real leadership role in delivering some of these NGO agricultural programs.

Could the Minister give us an update on the status of completing and launching a new Growing Forward 2 Agreement and explain how the Territorial Farmers’ Association and other stakeholders have been involved in finalizing the second draft as he has committed? Mahsi.

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Question 192-17(4): Growing Forward 2 Agreement And Small Scale Foods Program

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . The honourable Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment , Mr. Ramsay .

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Question 192-17(4): Growing Forward 2 Agreement And Small Scale Foods Program

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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Growing Forward 2 would be an investment of $1.2 million on an annual basis and give us $6 million to put towards agricultural initiatives in the territory over the next five years. The current program expires at the end of this month. We are moving forward in looking at signing the new deal with Ottawa on a way forward for the additional funding.

Some of the areas of investment would include small scale foods, mentorship, traditional harvesting, as well as building industry capacity here in the Northwest Territories. It is very exciting for us. This represents about a half a million dollars

more on an annual basis to the agricultural industry here in the Northwest Territories.

We have been consulting with the Territorial Farmers’ Association, and to get specifics on when these consultations took place and who they were with, I would certainly make that commitment to get that information back to the Member. Thank you.

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, thanks to the Minister. I know there are a number of groups and significant movers and shakers that have been involved in programs in the past. I am sure they are being consulted, so I’ll appreciate that information.

The Minister has written to tell me that the ITI regional offices in the North and South Slave and Deh Cho will take on responsibility for delivering the Small Foods Program, and the ITI agricultural consultant will do full implementation in the Beau-Del and support the Sahtu office.

As the new season soon gets underway, could the Minister commit to ensuring community partnership components figure largely in this year’s program delivery – and I urge the Minister to refer to my statement earlier today – and that program reporting will include specifics on community partnerships, mentoring and real capacity building? Mahsi.

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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment

Mr. Speaker, a big component of this is that industry capacity. We have been talking to the Territorial Farmers’ Association on a training component located in Hay River, where folks from the communities would go to Hay River, receive the training and be able to take the knowledge that they have learned in Hay River back to their home communities and train others when they get back home. That, I believe, is going to be a big component of the new funding. We are working out the details on the funding and how it flows and what it ends up going to.

Rest assured, when we do come up with a plan, we will be coming to committee and seeking the indulgence of the Standing Committee on Economic Development and Infrastructure and the advice of Members from across the way. Thank you.

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, thanks to the Minister. I look forward to that again. What has been happening is all of those components have been here for the work done by non-government organizations. It has not been done by the workers in the government. That’s where we need the tune-up. I would like to see the Minister working with his staff to ensure that those goals are met.

Community markets are also developing in some communities. I believe there is already one in Hay River, and the Yellowknife Commons Cooperative is beginning one in Yellowknife this summer. Is the Minister aware of these value-added activities and

is the department also supporting these efforts? Mahsi.

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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment

Mr. Speaker, yes I am aware of the market in Hay River and the efforts here in Yellowknife. Certainly, the Member is correct, we have to be putting the money in the hands of people who can do the most with it. In a lot of cases in agriculture, it is not much different, and that is the hands of the NGOs, people that are in the business. With the Growing Forward 2 money, I would anticipate that that is going to be the way forward, is trying to get money where it is going to make the most difference. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Bromley .

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Question 192-17(4): Growing Forward 2 Agreement And Small Scale Foods Program

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, I’ve heard that the Take A Kid Trapping program is drawing dollars from the Growing Forward Fund. That obviously would be inappropriate use of those dollars. Can the Minister confirm whether that is the situation? What is the justification for that if it is? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment

Mr. Speaker, I wasn’t aware of that. It is something that I certainly would look into. Thank you.

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Question 192-17(4): Growing Forward 2 Agreement And Small Scale Foods Program

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Blake .

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Question 193-17(4): Economic Benefits Of Inuvik To Tuktoyaktuk Highway

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Following up from my Member’s statement, I would like to ask the Minister of Transportation a question. The cost estimate of the Inuvik-Tuk highway is about $300 million. How much of that is expected to stay in the Northwest Territories economy through businesses and job opportunities? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 193-17(4): Economic Benefits Of Inuvik To Tuktoyaktuk Highway

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Blake . The honourable Minister of Transportation , Mr. Ramsay .

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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

Minister of Transportation

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Decisions haven’t been made on procurement but certainly my belief – and I’ve said it in the House before and I will say it again today – is that the vast majority of that close to $300 million should stay in the Northwest Territories, should put equipment that’s here in the Northwest Territories to work and people to work here in the Northwest Territories. We don’t want to see that money leave the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

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Question 193-17(4): Economic Benefits Of Inuvik To Tuktoyaktuk Highway

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, would the Minister describe the economic benefits of the Inuvik-Tuk highway once it is built? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 193-17(4): Economic Benefits Of Inuvik To Tuktoyaktuk Highway

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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

Minister of Transportation

Mr. Speaker, the economic benefits will be great for all of the communities in the Beaufort-Delta for visiting family

and connecting the communities of Inuvik and Tuktoyaktuk. It will lower the cost of living in Tuktoyaktuk. We won’t have to build the ice road to Tuktoyaktuk in the winter months any longer. Long term, this road will have tremendous impact on the exploration and development of oil and gas in the region and lead to many more jobs and opportunities for residents in the Beaufort-Delta.

Also, I should mention tourism. Currently, in the summer months, when tourists drive the Dempster Highway into Inuvik, they have to take a plane into Tuktoyaktuk if they want to dip their toe in the Arctic Ocean. That will be a thing of the past. Tourists will be able to drive all the way to the Arctic Coast and dip their toe in the Arctic Ocean and also visit a pingo or two while they are in Tuktoyaktuk. Thank you.

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, if the project does get approval, what will this government do to ensure that Gwich’in contractors get a fair share of the work building the Inuvik-Tuk highway? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

Minister of Transportation

Mr. Speaker, again, no decision has been made on procurement on the highway, but our expectation is that people in the Beaufort-Delta and companies in the Beaufort-Delta will be able to work together. There is going to be a lot of work.

On a project of close to $300 million, there is going to be a lot of equipment that is going to be required. It is expected to be somewhere near 200 jobs in Tuktoyaktuk, 200 jobs in Inuvik. There will be opportunities. Our hope is that those opportunities will accrue to as many people as possible in the Beaufort-Delta.

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Question 193-17(4): Economic Benefits Of Inuvik To Tuktoyaktuk Highway

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Minister Ramsay . The Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Question 194-17(4): Minister’s Forum On Addictions And Community Wellness

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In my Member’s statement today I was talking about the Addictions Forum work and certainly trying to compare it to the work that’s already been done to date and tying it equally together with some of the issues I’ve raised, as well as many other Members have raised here in the Assembly today. It’s no surprise to the Minister and I’ve repeated it many times. I believe we need a treatment centre here in Yellowknife and that we need treatment facilities that are appropriate, of course.

My question to the Minister of Health and Social Services today is: Speaking to the Addictions Forum – and I’ll be tying all those three subjects together – what have their interim findings been when they’re out knocking on the doors of the territory’s citizens, and what type of advice and

direction are they getting to challenge addictions in a manner that all the previous reports and studies and experts have not provided us? Thank you.

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Question 194-17(4): Minister’s Forum On Addictions And Community Wellness

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . The Minister of Health and Social Services , Mr. Beaulieu .

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Question 194-17(4): Minister’s Forum On Addictions And Community Wellness

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker. The forum was not required to provide an interim report or a verbal report back to the department. They’re working with departmental staff. What we’re hearing unofficially is that they are hearing many good recommendations from the communities, and one of the forum members spoke to me in an unofficial capacity and indicated to me that he thought that they had accumulated at least 10 good recommendations from the communities so far. Thank you.

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you. I think today is a great opportunity if this Minister of Health and Social Services would like to avail himself to it, which is what are many of those good recommendations? I think he said there may be upwards of 10 recommendations. So what are those good recommendations they’ve been hearing from the communities so we can get a sense of what’s actually happening out there? Thank you.

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Question 194-17(4): Minister’s Forum On Addictions And Community Wellness

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

I don’t know what the recommendations are. The recommendations that the guy mentioned, as he was indicating to me that they had these recommendations, was he did indicate that the communities thought there should be some treatment on the land, that there should be some sort of detoxification in the system, and then also that they should be able to utilize the treatment centre in a way that would be a good piece to the overall treatment of addictions, sort of people in the Northwest Territories. Those are generally the only things that I recall, off the top of my head. Thank you.

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Question 194-17(4): Minister’s Forum On Addictions And Community Wellness

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you. There have been piles and piles of reports by experts, advice in these particular areas. The government could field a library on its own on how much it’s studied over these particular initiatives.

I’m tying this point to expert advice and expertise on the panel. Maybe the Minister can speak to the expertise this panel brings to this discussion on the Addictions Forum, and maybe he could use this occasion to highlight what expertise and experience they have around this to ensure we’ve got the right people in this process. It seems like one that was kicked off quietly then set out to find some facts, and we won’t hear from them until after it’s done. So there seems to be some gaps as to what experience, strengths and expertise they bring to the table and what they will be bringing to the table for policy advice. Thank you.

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Question 194-17(4): Minister’s Forum On Addictions And Community Wellness

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Thank you. We have heard lots from outside experts, there’s no question about that. This forum has given us an opportunity to hear from the people, from extended families, friends, neighbours, people who live with addictions every day. These are a group of people who have lived a life of addictions, some of them have lived lives of addictions, some of them are involved with the treatment centres, some of them are involved with counselling at their own community level.

The bottom line is, these are a group of people who we felt would be a good group of people to extract a lot of the solutions from the communities as they travel around. So I guess their expertise is really the life they’ve lived. The group of people that have come together, some of the individuals are very good at organizing the forums, and travelling with the forums, and doing documentation as well as documentation with our staff. Thank you.

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Question 194-17(4): Minister’s Forum On Addictions And Community Wellness

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Hawkins .

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Question 194-17(4): Minister’s Forum On Addictions And Community Wellness

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. By all means I’m sure that these are good people. I just would have thought we would have heard more about their expertise than the life they’ve lived.

My next question, of course, is the last one, which is: Has the Minister been getting any feedback about two particular areas that I am very passionate about, which is youth treatment options and certainly a treatment centre here for Yellowknife for dealing with addictions? Those are two very important recommendations that I hope are coming forward on how to deal with youth on a youth treatment level, and certainly, as I’d said earlier, a treatment centre possibly for Yellowknife, being one of the largest regions and certainly a catchment area for a lot of problems. Thank you.

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Question 194-17(4): Minister’s Forum On Addictions And Community Wellness

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Yes, thank you. I haven’t heard from the forum that there was any specific indication from the communities that they met, that they felt there should be a treatment centre located in Yellowknife. I’ve heard that earlier, somebody had indicated that somewhere, but specifically, officially from the forum, I haven’t heard that.

As far as youth treatment goes, I think that initially one of the forum members that we put on there had discussed a lot of youth treatment options with the department previously. So we thought putting her on the forum would bring that to the forefront, but again, officially, no, we haven’t heard about any treatment for youth that would be recommended through the forum. Thank you.

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Question 194-17(4): Minister’s Forum On Addictions And Community Wellness

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . The Member for Inuvik Boot Lake , Mr. Moses .

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Question 195-17(4): Skills Canada NWT And Jobs For Youth

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I mentioned earlier, we did have a meeting today with Skills Canada and I have some questions here for the Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment . I wanted to ask the Minister how is his department working with Skills Canada and industry together, to get some of our youth that are taking these trades into some of these jobs that we need in industry. Thank you.

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Question 195-17(4): Skills Canada NWT And Jobs For Youth

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Moses . The Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment , Mr. Ramsay .

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Question 195-17(4): Skills Canada NWT And Jobs For Youth

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We are responsible for the socio-economic agreements and, obviously, industry here in the Northwest Territories, but the responsibility for training and skills development rests with the Department of Education, Culture and Employment. So we work closely with the department on advancing their training initiatives. Certainly, in any meetings we have with industry, training is first and foremost in their mind in trying to identify a workforce here in the Northwest Territories, and accessing younger people is something industry is very interested in here in the NWT. Thank you.

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Question 195-17(4): Skills Canada NWT And Jobs For Youth

Oral Questions

Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you. Under the socio-economic agreements, is the Minister negotiating dollars for this type of training? He did mention it, but I mean specifically for Skills Canada, because Skills Canada are a small office that do a lot of really good work and they have participants who have gone through the program who have won national awards, international awards, and it would be a great opportunity to continue to support these individuals that go through the Skills Canada program. So is the Minister negotiating specific training dollars for Skills Canada so that we can start supporting participants that go through the program? Thank you.

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Question 195-17(4): Skills Canada NWT And Jobs For Youth

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you. ITI is the lead on the socio-economic agreements and there are a number of components included in the SEAs, that’s why we work with Health and Social Services and with Education, Culture and Employment.

On the training side, there is a component to training in the SEAs, and we certainly look to Education, Culture and Employment when negotiating socio-economic agreements so that we can ensure that there is training, that dollars are going to be put into training people here in the Northwest Territories for jobs. We, again, are continuing to work through Mr. Lafferty ’s lead with a pan-territorial approach to mine training here in the North, and we hope to see some progress on that in the very near future.

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Question 195-17(4): Skills Canada NWT And Jobs For Youth

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

I just want to get a clarification that when the Minister is negotiating these socio-economic agreements that he actually is negotiating for the whole territory and that negotiations are not specific to where the development is currently happening at the time. Can the Minister confirm that he is negotiating for all participants throughout the Northwest Territories so that somebody from the Beaufort-Delta can actually come and get a job in Yellowknife that have the skills required to have the specific job?

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Question 195-17(4): Skills Canada NWT And Jobs For Youth

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

The answer to that would be yes, it’s for the entire Northwest Territories.

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Question 195-17(4): Skills Canada NWT And Jobs For Youth

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The honourable Member for Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Question 196-17(4): Training Activities In The Sahtu

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Again, I am just following up on our road trip last weekend. My back is still sore. However, I’m going to stand here and I want to ask the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , with all the activity and training going on, if he would review and evaluate the training plans for the Sahtu so that the people in the Sahtu can meet at least once a month to start preparing a strategy to get people on the job, get them trained and get them moving.

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Question 196-17(4): Training Activities In The Sahtu

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Lafferty .

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Question 196-17(4): Training Activities In The Sahtu

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I agree that there should be formal meetings, potentially monthly or quarterly. There are all these different activities happening in the Sahtu region. More specifically, through training, we do have a steering committee of the regional representatives involving different parties as part of their discussion and planning stages. What are the communities’ needs? By all means my department will be sharing that with the Sahtu regional representatives, and they should be having more council meetings preparing for the huge activity that will be happening in the region.

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Question 196-17(4): Training Activities In The Sahtu

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

I look forward to working with the Minister in the Sahtu. The winter road is going to close down within, what, 25 days or so? Equipment is going to be sitting idle. However, we in the Sahtu want to start to look at next month.

Can we start assessing, start getting different types of training for the various different programs in the region? I want to ask the Minister if we could speed up the process, inform his department, the oil companies, and the communities and everybody. Let’s sit down in April, May and June and let’s put together a training plan that we can look at starting in July, and so forth, until the opening of the winter roads. That’s what we’re looking for. Would the

Minister put the fire under the training committee to get them going?

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Question 196-17(4): Training Activities In The Sahtu

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

I do believe there is a plan to have a meeting soon. I will be getting back to the Member on the dates of the meetings, if it’s going to be quarterly or monthly. Activities are happening as we speak. Preparation for the various training initiatives will be taking place. Those are areas that I will be instructing my department to work very closely with the Sahtu region; more specifically, the regional representatives that are on the steering committee to establish those meetings. I will be sharing that with the Member.

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Question 196-17(4): Training Activities In The Sahtu

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

If anybody wanted the job, there’s a job to be had in the Sahtu. It’s busy. It’s crazy. People are working. Even down in Nahendeh. Even in Wrigley, as the Minister and I heard. There are jobs up there. However, I want to ask the Minister if he could somehow be directive and forceful and say to the Sahtu, let’s get the training jobs going. We could make a huge contribution. Let’s not give out any more social assistance. Let’s get our people working. That’s what we want. That’s the kind of leadership I’m looking for from the Minister here. Can he do that?

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Question 196-17(4): Training Activities In The Sahtu

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Yes, we can. This is an area that we’re very closely monitoring and there is a huge potential opportunity here. We have to find out the needs of the community. How much manpower is there in the Sahtu region? Who is trainable, employable? What are the training needs in the community? Industries have to be involved as well. We have to get the industries at the table and start discussing this immediately. I agree with the Member, we’re going to fast-track this and have a meeting within hopefully the next couple of weeks.

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Question 196-17(4): Training Activities In The Sahtu

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Final supplementary, Mr. Yakeleya .

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Question 196-17(4): Training Activities In The Sahtu

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to ask the Minister, in regard to preparing a training plan, I believe we have the assessment. Would his department start going into the Sahtu while the winter roads are open in Colville Lake, Fort Good Hope, Deline, and Tulita and Norman Wells, and bring them together? Cut down the cost, be efficient, be effective. Can the Minister do that within 25 days to get things moving?

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Question 196-17(4): Training Activities In The Sahtu

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Yes, this is an area that, again, we’re very interested. Along with the Deh Cho riding, there is a lot of activity happening. We want to expedite the process. The Member is alluding to within 25 days. I think that’s doable. Having our parties involved to get to the Sahtu region, the Deh Cho region, and start talking about the training plan. What is needed in the community? What kind of training is required from the industry’s perspective? Because industry have their own certain criteria of positions. They need to be involved. By all means those are areas that we

want tackled from my department’s perspective. We need that data. Definitely, we’ll follow through with that expeditiously.

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Question 196-17(4): Training Activities In The Sahtu

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Question 197-17(4): Tlicho Winter Road To Fortune Minerals Site

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Last week – the exact date was Monday, February 25

th –

I had asked the Minister of Transportation some information regarding the work on the winter road, or potential permanent road to the NICO Mine, to the Dogrib communities of Gameti and Whati. In that Tlicho area that I wrote, one of the comments back from the Minister, he says my speculation about the work going on behind the scenes and the person I was talking to from Fortune Minerals is it was all guesswork on the Member’s part. I just received an e-mail from the Minister’s office.

Maybe the Minister can inform the House as to what type of guesswork that actually was, because either the Minister has some explaining to do or certainly some clarification to do that it appears it wasn’t guesswork. I have a question for the Minister to clear this up.

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Question 197-17(4): Tlicho Winter Road To Fortune Minerals Site

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . The honourable Minister of Transportation , Mr. David Ramsay .

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Question 197-17(4): Tlicho Winter Road To Fortune Minerals Site

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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

Minister of Transportation

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’ll take that question as notice.

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Question 197-17(4): Tlicho Winter Road To Fortune Minerals Site

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . Item 8, written questions. Item 9, returns to written questions. Mr. Clerk.

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Written Question 7-17(4): Distribution Of GNWT Jobs

Returns to Written Questions

Tim Mercer

Clerk Of The House

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a Return to Written Question 7-17(4) asked by Mr. Dolynny on February 13, 2013, regarding the distribution of GNWT jobs.

Later today, at the appropriate time, I will table a document, entitled GNWT Positions to Population Ratio as at December 31, 2012. This document identifies the 33 communities in the Northwest Territories, the number of GNWT positions located in each community and region, and the positions to population ratio for each community. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Written Question 7-17(4): Distribution Of GNWT Jobs

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Item 10, replies to opening address. Item 11, petitions. Item 12, reports of standing and special committees.

Item 13, reports of committees on the review of bills. Mr. Hawkins .

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Bill 2:

An Act To Amend The Territorial Parks Act

Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills

Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to report to the Assembly that the Standing Committee on Economic Development and Infrastructure has completed its review of Bill 2,

An Act to Amend the Territorial Parks Act. The committee wishes to report that Bill 2 is ready for consideration in Committee of the Whole.

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Bill 2:

An Act To Amend The Territorial Parks Act

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . Item 14, tabling of documents. Mr. Abernethy .

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Tabled Document 39-17(4): GNWT Positions To Population Ratio As At December 31, 2012

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Further to my Return to Written Question 7-17(4), I wish to table the following document, entitled GNWT Positions to Population Ratio as at December 31, 2012.

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Tabled Document 39-17(4): GNWT Positions To Population Ratio As At December 31, 2012

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . Mr. Ramsay .

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Tabled Document 40-17(4): GNWT Response To Committee Report 6-17(3), Report On Hydraulic Fracturing Study Tour: Toward A Policy Framework For Hydraulic Fracturing In The Northwest Territories

Tabling of Documents

David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to table the following document, entitled GNWT Response to Committee Report 6-17(3), Report on Hydraulic Fracturing Study Tour: Toward a Policy Framework for Hydraulic Fracturing in the Northwest Territories.

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Tabled Document 40-17(4): GNWT Response To Committee Report 6-17(3), Report On Hydraulic Fracturing Study Tour: Toward A Policy Framework For Hydraulic Fracturing In The Northwest Territories

Tabling of Documents

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . Item 15, notices of motion. Mr. Blake .

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Motion 7-17(4): Appointment Of Acting Clerk Of The Legislative Assembly

Notices of Motion

Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I give notice that on Friday, March 8, 2013, I will move the following motion:

Now therefore I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Monfwi , that Ms. Colette Langlois be appointed Acting Clerk of the

Legislative Assembly for the period of August 15, 2013, to August 14, 2014, by the Commissioner of the Northwest Territories as recommended by the Board of Management of the Legislative Assembly.

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Motion 7-17(4): Appointment Of Acting Clerk Of The Legislative Assembly

Notices of Motion

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Blake . Item 16, notices of motion for first reading of bills. Item 17, motions. Item 18, first reading of bills. Item 19, second reading of bills. Item 20, consideration in Committee of the Whole of bills and other matters: Tabled Document 9-17(4), NWT Main Estimates, 2013-2014; and Bill 1, Tlicho Statutes Amendment Act ; Municipal and Community Affairs, Justice, and Executive, with Mrs. Groenewegen in the chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills