Budget, Oral Questions — 6 February 1998 (13th Assembly, 5th Session, pp. 607–637)
1998-02-06, 13th Assembly 5th Session, pp. 607–637
Northwest Territories — Debates (Hansard)
Debates of Feb. 6th, 1998
This is page numbers 607 - 637 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.
The word of the day was community .
Topics
Members Present
Item 1: Prayer
New Trades And Occupations
Achievements Of The 13th Assembly
Motives For Tough Questions
Motives For Tough Questions
Timely Receipt Of Budget Information
Premier's Statement Regarding Lahm Ridge Tower Questions
NWT Ski Coach Firing
Igloolik Search And Rescue Efforts
Broughton Island Request For An Airport Garage Extension
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Return To Oral Question 207-13(5): Time Of Lahm Ridge Lease Signing
Return To Oral Question 226-13(5): GNWT Lease Renewals
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Broughton Island Airport Garage
Timely Receipt Of Budget Information
New Trades And Occupations
Unified Court System Appeal Process
Igloolik Community Hall Extension
Monitoring GNWT Contracts And Leases
Update On Chief Coroner Position
Policy Re: Meeting With Ministers
Shortage Of NWT Tradespeople
Yellowknife Office Space Plan
Publication Of Salaries And Wages
Additional Funding For Teachers
Invitation To Visit Thebacha Riding
GNWT Office Lease Renewals
Legal Requirement For Contract Reporting
Purchase Of Computer Equipment
Contract Reporting By The GNWT
Response Process Re: Unsuccessful Proponents
Refining The Request For Proposals Process
Rationale For Increase In Request For Proposals
Tabled Document 38-13(5): Letter Of Support For Hay River MLA From Hay River Residents
Bill 10-13(5): Miscellaneous Statutes Amending Act, 1998
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 22: Orders Of The Day
Members Present
Honourable Jim Antoine , Honourable Goo Arlooktoo , Honourable Charles Dent , Mr. Enuaraq , Mr. Erasmus , Mr. Evaloarjuk , Honourable Sam Gargan, Mrs. Groenewegen , Mr. Krutko , Mr. Miltenberger , Honourable Don Morin , Honourable Kelvin Ng , Mr. Ningark , Mr. O'Brien , Mr. Ootes , Mr. Picco , Mr. Rabesca , Mr. Steen , Honourable Manitok Thompson , Honourable John Todd .
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Oh, God, may your spirit and guidance be in us as we work for the benefit of all our people, for peace and justice in our land and for the constant recognition of the dignity and aspirations of those whom we serve. Amen.
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Item 1: Prayer
Item 1: Prayer
Page 607
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you, Ms. Thompson . Good morning. Orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Dent .
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Minister's Statement 47-13(5): New Trades And Occupations
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 607
Charles Dent
Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning. Mr. Speaker, as the first annual NWT Apprenticeship Week draws to a close, I am pleased to announce the designation of a new trade and three new occupations in the Northwest Territories. The Apprenticeship, Trade and Occupations Certification Board met in November to review requests made by representatives of the construction business and the tourism industry to have trades and occupations recognized under our Apprenticeship, Trade and Occupations Certification Act.
The board has recognized the new trade of insulator (heat and frost), and at the request of the apprenticeship board, I have recommended that a trade designation order be published. Insulators will now be able to be certified in the Northwest Territories. Occupational certification is a formal recognition of skills. While similar to apprenticeship, occupational certification could be seen as the "younger brother " to apprenticeship. On-the-job and technical training are in the control of industry, rather than government.
As the Members know, this Apprenticeship Week is the first ever held in the Northwest Territories, and earlier, I noted another first with the creation of the Construction Trades for Women Program. Following that theme, it is fitting we finish off the week's activities with the announcement of another first for both the Northwest Territories and, in fact, Canada, that is, the designation of three new occupations under the Apprenticeship, Trade and Occupations Certification Board for certification: furrier, hunting guide and fishing guide. All three are being designated under the Apprenticeship Act in Canada for the first time.
In closing, I would like to thank everyone who participated in the Apprenticeship Week activities in communities throughout the Northwest Territories, and once again recognize the thousands of men and women who work as apprentices and journeypersons across the north. Mahsi.
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Minister's Statement 47-13(5): New Trades And Occupations
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 607
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Miltenberger .
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Member's Statement 171-13(5): Achievements Of The 13th Assembly
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 607
Michael Miltenberger
Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, when I first became a Member of this Legislative Assembly one of the hardest things to get used to was recognition and acceptance of the fact that I entered a profession that is held in generally low esteem by the people. In fact, I saw a poll not too long ago where we rank even lower than lawyers in terms of public perception, and unfortunately just marginally ahead of child molesters. Mr. Speaker, that is unfortunate because it colours the perception of people and their perception of everything we do regardless of how good it is.
I came through the door intent on representing my constituents and the people of the Northwest Territories to the best of my ability. That is still my intention. I believe, that is the intention of every Member in the House here today. We have to strive every day to prove to the people that in fact we have their best interests at heart. In this House I have heard this Assembly characterized as a banana republic. Once again, I believe that is an unfortunate perception. I believe history will show that this Assembly is probably the best and has done the most of any of the 12 Assemblies before us.
Mr. Speaker, we inherited an Assembly that was for all intents and purposes in political grid lock where there was political scandal on almost a weekly basis, where there was a revolving door to Cabinet. We restructured the Assembly to be much more functional and open. We inherited a deficit and a territorial government that was hurtling towards bankruptcy. We also inherited a huge backlog of legislative agenda of undone business and a road to division that was significantly behind schedule. Mr. Speaker, I am very proud to be part of this Assembly. We have balanced the budget. We have restructured government to make it more efficient and accountable.
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Member's Statement 171-13(5): Achievements Of The 13th Assembly
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 607
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Your time is up.
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Member's Statement 171-13(5): Achievements Of The 13th Assembly
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 608
Michael Miltenberger
Thebacha
Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement and I apologize for speaking to the Chair sitting down.
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Member's Statement 171-13(5): Achievements Of The 13th Assembly
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 608
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
The Member for Thebacha is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Do we have any nays? There are no nays. Mr. Miltenberger , you have unanimous consent.
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Member's Statement 171-13(5): Achievements Of The 13th Assembly
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 608
Michael Miltenberger
Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, colleagues. Mr. Speaker, this Assembly has balanced the budget. We have restructured government. We have taken care of a huge legislative backlog, though there is still much ahead of us. We will get to division. We cannot forget the good things we have done because sometimes on a day-to-day basis, we get caught up in our affairs that are before us and forget that we have accomplished a lot. We all have a job to do, Mr. Speaker.
We have set an agenda for ourselves and when issues come up, this job requires some people to ask questions, some people to answer questions, like the Lahm Ridge Tower. It is our responsibility as an Assembly to deal with that issue in a professional, impersonal way. This is business. We cannot lose track of the fact, Mr. Speaker, that it is only an issue before us. We still have a very big agenda ahead of us and lots of work to do in the short life that remains before this 13th Assembly. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
--Applause
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Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 608
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Krutko .
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Member's Statement 172-13(5): Motives For Tough Questions
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 608
David Krutko
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the last time I checked, I do have guts and I do have a backbone. I have the right to raise issues on behalf of my constituency in this House, and if the issues end up in the newspapers, so be it. Mr. Speaker, I put my name forth to represent the people in the Mackenzie Delta in relation to issues and, hopefully, to improve the lives of the people of the Mackenzie Delta. I speak not only for the Mackenzie Delta, but for the people in the north.
To help make life better for the people in the north, issues have to be discussed, questions have to be raised and comments made in relation to the Lahm Ridge Tower, the whole area of health problems in the north, funding for education and the area that concerns a lot of us, the cancer problems we see in our communities. Regardless if it is a water issue or an education issue, I hoped that it would make a difference. I stand up in this House and ask questions to the different Ministers. A lot of times I get answers I do not feel comfortable with, so I ask more questions. Mr.
Speaker, we were elected to not only represent the ridings of the people we represent but the north in general. Programs are delivered by this government for everyone, not for one riding, for one health board or basically for one particular group of people. We have to seriously ask ourselves, who does this government represent? Does it represent the people of the Northwest Territories? Does it represent big industry? Does it work solely on the emphasis that they have to protect their little portfolios in relation to the different departments they are responsible for?
I believe that it has come time where we have to say to ourselves, who do we represent?
--Applause
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Member's Statement 172-13(5): Motives For Tough Questions
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 608
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Members' statements. Mrs. Groenewegen .
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Member's Statement 173-13(5): Motives For Tough Questions
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 608
Jane Groenewegen
Hay River
Mr. Speaker, thank you. I am just in the midst of preparing my statement, but I will have to wing the end of it. Mr. Speaker, one more time for the record. I am going to try to explain to the House what my motives are. Mr. Speaker, I campaigned in Hay River on the motto of energy and action. People who did not even like me, voted for me because they said, if she stands up for us the way we have seen her stand up for herself, we will vote for her. Returning home after the last session, a number of my key supporters got together and put me on the hot seat so to speak. They said Jane, what has happened to you?
Why are you not asking any questions? Why are you not asking any hard questions? I explained to them very candidly that when I first came here, I got sick. I picked up a virus. I was sick. I was getting over that when I tripped and broke my leg. It took me months to get over that. I was just in the midst of getting over that and my company in Hay River was on the verge of bankruptcy. In the midst of that I got a phone call that my dearest friend, my father, had dropped dead of a heart attack.
I explained that to my constituents, but then I did commit to them that they would see the old me who they had elected and they would see energy and action in the Legislature.
On the heels of this meeting with my supporters, I was publicly confronted in a constituency meeting and asked if this government has a communication problem or a correction problem. That is the question I was asked. I committed to find out the answer to that question. On my first day back in Yellowknife, I did go around Yellowknife, I did go to the Courthouse and I did collect public documents in my search for the answer to that question. I returned to the Legislative Assembly to be approached by the Ordinary Members saying, the Premier is waiting to see you.
I went to the Premier 's office and met with him at his request, and there to my surprise is the assistant deputy minister of Justice, a lawyer I would assume. I am told that she will provide the service of being a witness to the Premier . Mr. Speaker, I have to say, I have been asked, do I hope there are any red faces at the end of this exercise. I sincerely hope not. My motives are not to embarrass or hurt anyone. I am a God-fearing woman. I have made mistakes and I probably will make more mistakes.
Every morning when I leave my house, I say a prayer, and I hope and pray that I do not make mistakes which either contravene proper principles of ethics and behaviour or the principles which I adhere to as a Christian. Mr. Speaker, again for the record, my motives are to represent my constituents to the best of my ability and to live up to the campaign motto on which I was elected which were energy and action. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
--Applause
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Member's Statement 173-13(5): Motives For Tough Questions
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 609
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Picco .
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Member's Statement 174-13(5): Timely Receipt Of Budget Information
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 609
Edward Picco
Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we are doing right now the review of the main estimates for the budget. It is very disappointing, Mr. Speaker, when you are trying to do a review of the budget and have information coming to you the day before or the actual day that a department is up for review. In case of point is, Mr. Speaker, the Department of MACA provided to the Minister of Finance's department, FMBS, a copy of information requested by my committee on the 8th of January. Mr. Speaker, that information I received yesterday.
That information pertains to the MACA budget and is information that should have been brought forward in my opening remarks yesterday and in some of the questions yesterday on the main estimates. Mr. Speaker, my concern here today, indeed, is what is causing this delay at the Department of Finance and the Financial Board? It is not acceptable for me, as an Ordinary Member or chairman of a committee.
There is also the situation regarding other committees in this House who have had the same problem happening and later today I will be questioning the Minister of Finance who has ultimate responsibility for the budget, to find out if this is actually a mistake or a logistic problem or, indeed, an attempt to sandbag questions. Thank you.
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Member's Statement 174-13(5): Timely Receipt Of Budget Information
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 609
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Ootes .
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Member's Statement 175-13(5): Premier's Statement Regarding Lahm Ridge Tower Questions
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 609
Jake Ootes
Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to express my concern about the Premier 's statement of February 4th, regarding the questioning by Ordinary Members over the Lahm Ridge Tower lease. Mr. Speaker, the Premier 's statement caused me concern as an Ordinary Member. He challenged the Member for Hay River to file a conflict of interest complaint. I can only conclude that we have fundamentally different views on the rights and obligations of government and Ordinary Members. As the Premier said, we do have processes outside of this House for dealing with citizens' concerns. In fact, we have several.
We have courts and commissioners and adjudicators. As he said, it is true that anyone may make a complaint to the Conflict of Interest Commissioner. I have the greatest of respect for these institutions but, Mr. Speaker, we have another process, one that goes back centuries. It is called democracy. Democracy means responsible government and that means that those individuals not in a governing position have a responsibility to question and be a sober second thought.
Responsible government means several things, but foremost, to me it means that Ministers of government are accountable to the people through their elected representatives, the Ordinary Members of this House. Government must be fair and just. It must be seen to be fair and just. There are few opportunities for government to directly answer questions to the people, questions of the people. If there are rumours and innuendo and if the rumours are misconceived, I would have thought that the government would welcome the opportunity to clear up the misconceptions.
Instead the Premier chose to challenge one of the Members. Mr. Speaker, whether or not government welcomes this opportunity, Ordinary Members will continue to ask questions in this House whether it is pleasant or unpleasant for the government. It is our responsibility and our duty as Ordinary Members. We will continue to exercise our duty. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
--Applause
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Member's Statement 175-13(5): Premier's Statement Regarding Lahm Ridge Tower Questions
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 609
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Rabesca .
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Member's Statement 176-13(5): NWT Ski Coach Firing
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 609
James Rabesca
North Slave
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I received a letter from one of my constituents who is concerned over the recent firing of the NWT ski division's head coach. My constituent is raising concerns of what will become of the ski program. It is my understanding that this coach has assisted the community of Rae Lakes by providing low cost ski equipment and has helped to establish a ski club and promote the sport to the youth and other members of the community. The community of Rae Lakes would like to know why they were not informed or have any input into the decision to release the coach.
If this is an association, I would think that each Member should have a say. This decision seems to have taken place at a bad time considering we have the Arctic Winter Games and Territorial Ski Championships fast approaching. I only hope that this decision will not have any detrimental affect on this great sport that over the years has produced many world-calibre athletes in the north. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
--Applause
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Member's Statement 176-13(5): NWT Ski Coach Firing
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 609
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Evaloarjuk .
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Member's Statement 177-13(3): Igloolik Search And Rescue Efforts
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 609
Mark Evaloarjuk
Amittuq
(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to briefly speak about the incident in the area between Igloolik and Hall Beach. There was an emergency. People from Hall Beach and Igloolik were searching for a person. I would like to state that I am very glad that the person was found and I am very grateful for the accomplishment. Thank you. (Translation ends)
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Member's Statement 177-13(3): Igloolik Search And Rescue Efforts
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Enuaraq .
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Member's Statement 178-13(5): Broughton Island Request For An Airport Garage Extension
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 610
Tommy Enuaraq
Baffin Central
(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning. Firstly I would like to say hi to the people in Pangnirtung, Clyde River and the other communities. (Translation ends) An agreement between the hamlet and the NWT was made a few years ago that the hamlet would receive priority for the use of the parking garage at the airport. Now the hamlet has need of the whole garage, Mr. Speaker. I would like to see a new parking garage or an extension to the present one to accommodate both GNWT and hamlet. The hamlet now keeps its equipment stored at the airport parking garage. There is no room for GNWT equipment.
Alternative storage needs to be found for the GNWT. The proper storage of equipment will prolong their use. A newer or bigger garage is needed for GNWT equipment. This was made known to the Department of Transportation a while ago. Again the community of Broughton Island needs a new or larger parking garage at its airport. Thank you.
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Member's Statement 178-13(5): Broughton Island Request For An Airport Garage Extension
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you, Mr. Enuaraq . Members' statement. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Antoine .
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Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Page 610
Jim Antoine
Nahendeh
Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have a return to oral question asked by Mrs. Jane Groenewegen , the honourable Member for Hay River on February 4th in regard to the time of the Lahm Ridge lease signing.
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Return To Oral Question 207-13(5): Time Of Lahm Ridge Lease Signing
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Page 610
Jim Antoine
Nahendeh
Prior to the actual signing of the lease extension, a letter of understanding outlining the terms of the extension was signed by both parties on August 6th. The deputy minister of Public Works and Services signed the actual lease extension document on September 25, 1997. The owner signed the same document on September 29, 1997. The time of signing in not known. As the Member will be aware, the times referred to in her question represent the times that the documents were clocked in at the Land Titles office upon delivery from the lawyer's office. It is not possible to be that exact about the time of day that the parties actually signed the documents.
Negotiations on the lease extension took place exclusively between Vince Dixon and Al Marceau, in the superintendent's office, supplemented by a few phone calls between the two. either Mr. Mrdjenovich nor Mr. Bailey were involved in the negotiations.
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Return To Oral Question 207-13(5): Time Of Lahm Ridge Lease Signing
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Page 610
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Returns to oral questions. Mr. Antoine .
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Return To Oral Question 226-13(5): GNWT Lease Renewals
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Page 610
Jim Antoine
Nahendeh
Four office leases have been renewed in Yellowknife in the past two years. These are:
- Centre Square, floors six, seven and eight for Health and Social Services
- Lahm Ridge Tower for Education, Culture and Employment and Transportation
- Northern United Place for Aurora College
- Professional Building - lease dollars were transferred to Health and Social Services for their Yellowknife service delivery staff.
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Return To Oral Question 226-13(5): GNWT Lease Renewals
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Page 610
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Morin .
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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
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Page 610
Don Morin
Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to recognize a former MLA of this Legislative Assembly as well as a former Cabinet Minister, Mr. Peter Ernerk.
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Page 610
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Welcome to the Assembly. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Ningark .
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Page 610
John Ningark
Natilikmiot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I also would like to recognize someone I grew up with in Repulse Bay and I went to school in Chesterfield Inlet with Mr. Peter Ernerk. Thank you.
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Todd .
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
Yes, Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would never hear the end of it if I did not recognize Mr. Glen McLean, the President of the Keewatin Chamber of Commerce and resident of Baker Lake and Yellowknife. Thank you.
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Page 610
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Welcome to the Assembly. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Ootes .
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Jake Ootes
Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would also like to recognize my good friend, Mr. Peter Ernerk, who was the first Minister ever of this territorial government. Thank you.
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Krutko .
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David Krutko
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to recognize Pat Thomas, NWTTA, and I would like to thank her for the goodies last night. I was thankful we had shrimp there, but it is too bad that the bankers could not make it.
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Evaloarjuk .
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Page 611
Mark Evaloarjuk
Amittuq
(Translation) Mr. Speaker, I would like to go back to recognition of visitors in the gallery. I was late. (Translation ends)
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Page 611
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
The Member for Amittuq is seeking unanimous consent to go back to item 5. Are there any nays? Mr. Evaloarjuk , you have unanimous consent.
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Mark Evaloarjuk
Amittuq
(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would also like to recognize a former Member who I used to sit with in the Legislative Assembly, Peter Ernerk, a good friend of mine. Thank you. (Translation ends)
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
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Question 231-13(5): Broughton Island Airport Garage
Item 6: Oral Questions
Page 611
Tommy Enuaraq
Baffin Central
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I indicated in my Member's statement, the parking garage in Broughton Island Airport is getting a bit over aged. There is hardly any space in there for the hamlet and the GNWT. Mr. Speaker, my question will be directed to the Honourable Manitok Thompson , Minister of MACA . When can the community of Broughton Island expect to have an expansion or a new garage at the airport in Broughton Island. Thank you.
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Page 611
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
The Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs , Ms. Thompson .
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Manitok Thompson
Aivilik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will take that as notice.
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you, the question is taken as notice. Oral questions. Mr. Picco .
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Question 232-13(5): Timely Receipt Of Budget Information
Item 6: Oral Questions
Page 611
Edward Picco
Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In my Member's statement I spoke about the main estimate response not coming in on time. I wonder if the Minister of Finance could let us know right now what the delay is in receiving departmental responses?
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Samuel Gargan
The Minister of Finance , Mr. Todd .
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
Yes, Mr. Speaker. I wonder if my honourable colleague could be more clear as to exactly what we have not responded to and I will endeavour to answer the question.
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Edward Picco
Iqaluit
Thank you. Mr. Speaker, in November during the main estimates review there were several questions asked by my committee in the committee concerning issues surrounding MACA and other issues. I understand that, indeed, on January 8th, MACA responded to FMBS with a copy of all that requested information. That information never came to me for the committee's information until yesterday. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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I did not hear the question. Mr. Picco .
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Edward Picco
Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. He asked me to clarify the dates. I just clarified the dates and my question was why the month delay.
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Samuel Gargan
Minister of Finance , Mr. Todd .
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
Well certainly, Mr. Speaker, we do endeavour to move as quickly as we can in responses to committees and questions that they raise and if we delayed them in this particular instance, I apologize to my colleague. It was probably because we were involved in a whole variety of other things, pay equity, negotiations, et cetera. He got the information yesterday and if it has been delayed, I apologize and I will try to make sure in the future that we get it to him more quickly. Thank you.
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Samuel Gargan
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Question 233-13(5): New Trades And Occupations
Item 6: Oral Questions
Page 611
Michael Miltenberger
Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is directed to the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment . It is regarding his statement today about new trades and occupations. Could the Minister indicate or elaborate on the new trade of the insulator (heat and frost) as to how many years the apprenticeship is? Does it have interprovincial status? Thank you.
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Samuel Gargan
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Charles Dent
Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The new trade of insulator (heat and frost) is not a journeypersons certification. It is not an apprenticeship situation. It is, as I have said in my statement, like the younger brother of the
journeyperson's process. It would not therefore qualify for something like red seal status because I believe that only applies to journeyperson's certification. It takes a lesser amount of time than does apprenticeship in order to achieve the certification. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
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Michael Miltenberger
Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could the Minister also elaborate on the designation of three new occupations he referred to at the end of his statement, the trades, hunting and guiding and the length of those? Are they community-based? Thank you.
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Samuel Gargan
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Charles Dent
Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in answer to the question whether or not these could be community-based, the answer is, like all journey trades positions they can be community-based because they are based in large part on experience and working with people who are certified to teach the program. In terms of how long the programs are, I am not exactly sure, and I would have to get back to the Member on that.
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
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Michael Miltenberger
Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Keeping in mind the difficult financial situation that we are just coming out of, my final question to the Minister is, will there, in fact, be funds to run courses to provide theoretical training for these new occupations the Minister has designated today?
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Samuel Gargan
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Charles Dent
Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, these programs will fit into our regular course of apprenticeship and trades supports that we provide. Yes, there is adequate money to provide the courses as needed. The money is limited of course, so each year, I do not believe that we offer all courses for every single trade. It depends in large part on the subscription. If there are a number of people who require the courses, then we endeavour to provide them. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Samuel Gargan
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Question 234-13(5): Unified Court System Appeal Process
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Page 612
John Ningark
Natilikmiot
Mr. Speaker, yesterday Mr. Barnabas asked the Minister of Justice regarding the one court system in Nunavut and I believe the response from the honourable Minister was that a single/double trial court is seen as a solution to the problem of trials in the Nunavut area. Mr. Speaker, I would like to take it from there and my question is for the Minister of Justice . When we talk about Nunavut, our vision was that we would have closer access to many of the services and programs that are currently serviced by this government once Nunavut becomes a reality. I understand that a court system is tribunal and, Mr.
Speaker, I believe there is a need for appeal in the court system. I am wondering, how would the honourable Minister of Justice proceed if in fact there is need for an appeal in the court system? Thank you.
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
The Minister of Justice , Mr. Arlooktoo .
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Goo Arlooktoo
Baffin South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I have indicated yesterday, the proposal is now set up for a single level trial approach system for Nunavut. This is one issue that has agreement with all parties whole-heartedly. However, there are a lot of details and logistics that need to be worked out in the next 12 months or so including details such as how would an appeal process work, et cetera. I do know that those are the types of issues that have had some research done on them. I do not have those in front of me.
However, I can tell the Member that the three parties, the federal government, the territorial government, and the NTI are working very closely together to help set up the justice system. In the end, the responsibility will be with the Department of Justice for the federal government with the assistance of our territorial Justice Department. I can inform the Member, I do plan to meet with Honourable Anne McLellan, Minister of Justice for Canada on the 23rd in Ottawa to discuss this issue. Thank you.
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
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John Ningark
Natilikmiot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My supplementary to the same honourable Minister, Mr. Speaker, my understanding is that once we have one level of court system, that would be the Nunavut court system, and then perhaps, a Supreme Court would be shared by two territories? Thank you.
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Goo Arlooktoo
Baffin South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The driving force behind trying to amalgamate the different levels of the court system, the Supreme Court level, the territorial court level and in some degree the JP court level, is the problem of when a court party comes into a community, there are a number of offences that need to be heard. You have many cases where the judge because they are in a different level of the court will say they cannot hear it and the court appearance is delayed for many months. This is one improvement that the communities have asked for and that the government recognizes as a need to be worked on.
It is, indeed, the driving force that you get a single level trial process that can hear most of the cases which should go to court. Thank you.
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Question 235-13(5): Igloolik Community Hall Extension
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Mark Evaloarjuk
Amittuq
(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is directed to the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs . I think the Minister is aware that the community hall in Igloolik is too small for the population. I have not seen any capital funding for Igloolik for the extension of the community hall. Is she aware the community hall is very small for the people of Igloolik? Are there any plans in the future for the extension of the community hall in Igloolik? Thank you. (Translation ends)
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Manitok Thompson
Aivilik
(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, if the hamlet has done prioritizing of their capital planning, that is the way you can request for capital funding for the extension of the Igloolik community hall. If the Igloolik hamlet council has a wish to get that done as a priority they can push for the planning of it to be first. I had heard some time ago that the community hall is very small. I am not really sure whether there is anything written to find out the size of the community hall. I will get back to the Member after I find out from my staff. Thank you. (Translation ends)
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Question 236-13(5): Monitoring GNWT Contracts And Leases
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David Krutko
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Premier . Can the Premier tell me if all government contracts and leases are looked at to see if the individuals or ex-government employees are in any conflict or breach of any ethics or policies this government has?
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Don Morin
Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This government does not let any contracts out that are against the policy, ethics, guidelines or anything else of this government. All the government contracts we let are according to policy. Thank you.
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David Krutko
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Can the Premier tell me who is the one who oversees to ensure these policies are adhered to? Which department does it fall under?
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Don Morin
Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It would depend on what contract it is. Most of the contracts are policed by the Department of Public Works, Justice, they will have a Justice opinion or else anything to do with Financial Management Act and the FMB. Thank you.
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Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Is there anywhere in the policy if there is a dispute filed by another individual who questions the contract which may have been awarded? Is there an avenue where an individual can raise concerns on a certain contract? Is there anything in the policy that allows a review to be done to ensure that it is adhered to?
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Don Morin
Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Once you go to tender on a contract or you go to a proposal call, you do have a law to protect those who tender and those are used continually throughout government. One thing I learned previously when I was the Minister of DPW and the Housing Corporation, if you have 20 people bidding on a contract, you are going to have 19 of them mad because only one of them is going to get the contract. You always have appeals. It is a constant revolving door of people complaining. You explain the case and it is done. That is it. That is government. Thank you.
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Question 237-13(5): Update On Chief Coroner Position
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Roy Erasmus
Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Justice on the coroner's office. Mr. Speaker, as a Member of the Social Programs Committee and as a matter of my own interest in the justice area, I have made statements on this area before and asked questions. We know there has been a lot of concern about the coroner's office, particularly since the coroner resigned some time ago. I would like to know if the Minister could give us an update on what has been done about the chief coroner's position?
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Goo Arlooktoo
Baffin South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The former chief coroner resigned about eight months ago. Since then, the government has reviewed the situation of how a chief coroner works in the office and how they are hired, et cetera. Through a consultant, we actually did a review asking for recommendations on how to proceed. I am pleased to inform Members that as of February 1st, we have hired Mr. Percy Kinney of Yellowknife as the chief coroner for the NWT.
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Roy Erasmus
Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am curious as to whether this particular situation with no coroner for a while has affected the community coroners, whether there have been any resignations or anything like that? Could the Minister indicate please?
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Goo Arlooktoo
Baffin South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would have to check on whether there were resignations. I do know that the period between April, 1997 and February 1st has been a time when government and the coroner's office has had a chance to look at procedures and the way it deals with the work at hand and have had a chance to improve on the way it does business. I must say that the acting coroner, Cathy Menard, has done an excellent job over the past year or so in dealing with the running of the office and acting as chief coroner during that time. Thank you.
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Roy Erasmus
Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Last year I made a statement about the poor conditions of facilities for dressing and holding bodies in the communities. As well, there was an
article in the papers on this subject. Has this government done anything in the last year to improve the holding facilities and areas they use for dressing bodies in the communities? Thank you.
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Goo Arlooktoo
Baffin South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would have to check with the Department of Justice to see what the status is on that request. I do remember the Member raising the issue last year. I will put together the information and pass that on to the Member.
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Thank you. Mr. Speaker, could the Minister include what the department intends to do this year to improve those conditions as well? Thank you.
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Thank you. Mr. Speaker, I will commit to becoming familiar with the issue over the next few days leading up to perhaps when the Justice Department's budget is discussed in the House. Hopefully by that time, I will be able to discuss the issue more intelligently and talk about options with Members of the House.
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Jane Groenewegen
Hay River
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yesterday in the House an issue came up regarding the lateness or tardiness in a response by the Department of Justice to a motion that was passed in this House. The Premier responded, I believe it was the Premier , that the Department of Justice was very busy. I am wondering, Mr. Speaker, I am not sure if this is to the Minister of Justice or the Premier , what the department's policy is with respect to engaging the services of senior functionaries of the Department of Justice as witnesses for Ministers when they have private meetings with our Members? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Don Morin
Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When Ministers meet with people, it is up to the Minister completely if they choose to have a person in the room to take notes and in this case, when I met with Mrs. Groenewegen , I chose to have someone in the room to take notes. Thank you.
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Jane Groenewegen
Hay River
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, that does not really answer my question. I am asking a question with respect to specific policy of this government on the use of senior functionaries of the Department of Justice, a lawyer, as a witness for the Ministers in a private meeting? Thank you, Mr. Speaker, a policy.
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Don Morin
Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We do not have a policy that addresses this specific issue. In this case, for this meeting, I chose to have an ADM of Justice to sit in the meeting, and that is completely up to me to make that choice. Thank you.
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Jane Groenewegen
Hay River
Okay. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. For clarification then, there is no policy in this government which would determine Minister's privilege when it comes to engaging the services of senior functionaries in the Department of Justice on a personal matter?
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Don Morin
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It was not a personal matter. I met with the Member as the Premier of the Northwest Territories. She is the MLA for Hay River, last time I checked. I sat down and met with her. We had a frank discussion; notes were kept. I never did talk to the ADM again to check on the notes, but notes were kept of the meeting. Thank you.
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Jane Groenewegen
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Premier agree, I believe I understood the intent and the content of the meeting. Would the Premier , since notes were kept, be prepared to provide a copy of those notes to me? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Question 239-13(5): Shortage Of NWT Tradespeople
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Henry
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister for Education, Culture and Employment , the honourable Mr. Dent . I think it is accepted that this government over the past number of years has cut back on the amount of dollars that it has spent in construction activity. Over that period of time, I believe the NWT Construction Association is saying that we now have a shortage of skilled tradespeople in the Northwest Territories. My question to the Minister is, I want to know if he shares this opinion?
What is his department doing about trying to get the number of tradesmen increased now that there is much potential with initiatives that the government is putting forward through P3 and so forth? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Charles Dent
Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I think we only need to look at the number of tradespeople that had to be imported to build the BHP diamond plant to recognize we could have used more tradespeople in the Northwest Territories. Looking at the future, we have projected fully one-third of all the new jobs we can expect to see in the territories in the next five years will require trades certification. This confirms the need for more development in order for our young people to find jobs. What is the department doing?
Our sponsorship of Apprenticeship Week this year is one example of an activity we have undertaken to raise the profile of trades in the north. We are offering the Schools North Apprenticeship Program in which young people may start an apprenticeship while still in high school as part of the CTS modules. The Mine Training Committee has initiated a program called Mine TAP, which is an upgrading program to enable northerners who are not quite ready to enter into an apprenticeship to upgrade themselves
so they can enter into an apprenticeship. We have worked at improving, through our CTS modules, awareness among young people in the north of the opportunities that are provided through apprenticeship. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker and thank you, Mr. Dent . My question to the Minister is, are they seeing a trend which shows an increase in the number of tradespeople being produced or graduating each year? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I cannot answer the question because I do not know whether or not the number of graduates in the last year has increased. I do know that in the Northwest Territories we have over 19.5 apprentices per 1,000 people in the active job field, which is higher than any other jurisdiction in Canada. Apprenticeship in the north is a very strong career route for a person to choose. I expect from that number, we have a fairly good graduation rate. Most of the graduates from the Apprenticeship Program do find jobs and stay in the north. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Thank you. Mr. Speaker, I am sure the Minister is aware of the vocational trades centre pilot project here in Yellowknife. I was wondering if the Minister has any projections on the number of tradespeople this can, hopefully, bring into the marketplace? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Thank you. Mr. Speaker, I missed part of the Member's question. Could I ask to have it repeated, please?
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My question to the Minister was, there is a new program being started, the vocational trades centre pilot project in Yellowknife. It is a project to assist individuals with intellectual disabilities to provide training to them. Does the Minister anticipate this will also increase the number of tradespeople for the industry? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, any opportunity which increases the number of people who have access to the program will definitely lead to an increase in the number of successful graduates. While the Member was asking his question, I was able to find out that the increase in the number of graduates in the program is about 16 percent over the last year. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Thank you. My final question is, does the Minister's department support this vocational trades centre pilot project? Thank you.
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We would support any effort to improve young people's education and opportunities for employment. I cannot answer specifically whether we fund the project or assist with the funding for the project. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Jake Ootes
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question will be for the Minister of Public Works and Services regarding the Yellowknife office space plan. Yesterday, the Minister confirmed the office space plan was initiated in January, 1997 and a rationale plan was agreed upon in July, 1997. In the Minister's statements filed in this House, he said that there were a variety of discussion papers. Could the Minister tell us if it would be correct, if the Department of Public Works and Services knew of the office space requirements and needs about a month or two before the rationalization plan was approved by the deputy ministers in July? Thank you.
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Jim Antoine
Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, starting in January of 1997, yes, the Department of Public Works began to start looking closely at the Yellowknife office space requirement. Through meetings with the deputy ministers, they have determined what would be required and by July they had a fairly good idea of what long-term leases would be retained and we could do with the existing properties of the Government of the Northwest Territories. Thank you.
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Jake Ootes
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Is it therefore correct that on or before July, it became clear that DPW would have to negotiate extensions of the lease in Lahm Ridge Tower? Thank you.
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Yes, Mr. Speaker. The department knew which long-term leases were favourable to the government and one of them was the Lahm Ridge Tower that was targeted to be retained for use by government. Thank you.
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Jake Ootes
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could the Minister confirm whether it was the Department of Public Works and Services that initiated discussions with Mr. Al Marceau, the owner of Lahm Ridge or was it Mr. Marceau who contacted the department? Thank you.
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Thank you. It was the owner of the Lahm Ridge Investment Company, Mr. Al Marceau, who contacted the Department of Public Works and Services to initiate the renegotiations of the lease extension. Thank you.
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Thank you. Could the Minister tell us if this was the first contact by Mr. Al Marceau with the department regarding the extension of the lease? Had Mr. Marceau contacted the department in the previous three to four months? Thank you.
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, when the long-term ten-year lease was up in 1995, Mr. Marceau wanted to exercise a lease extension. It was put on hold by the department because of the downsizing and the different scenarios that were going on within the department about the size of the government, and I am told it was until July of last year that Mr. Marceau had contacted the department. I am not aware of any time, three or four months before that so I will have to get back to the Member on that to be clear. Thank you.
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Edward Picco
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In response to an oral question asked by me yesterday to the Premier , I had asked if the boards and agencies of the government were required to report their salaries as proposed in the motion of 1996. The Premier came back and said if I wanted, the Dene Nation, the Metis Nation, the Gwich'in Nation, Inuvialuit and Sahtu and everything like that. To clarify, Mr. Speaker, that was not my question. I would like to ask my question again, in the motion of 1996, would that include the boards and agencies of this government, the Government of the Northwest Territories?
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Don Morin
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