Debates of Oct. 14th, 1994

This is page numbers 271 - 299 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 6th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was languages .

Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

1993 Annual Report Of The Workers' Compensation Board

Appointment Of The Board Chairman, Stanton Yellowknife Hospital

Apologizing To Constituents For Absence In The House

19th Anniversary As An Mla

Alternatives To Watching Hockey On Tv

Sedluk's Soapbox

Election Day In Fort Simpson

NWT Seniors' Society

Congratulating Wcb

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Criteria For Repayment Of Access Housing

Liquor Restrictions In Fort Simpson

Support For An NWT Team At 1995 Indigenous Games

Appearance Of Diand Minister The Honourable Ron Irwin

Generator For Grise Fiord Airport

Status Of Birthing Centre Pilot Project In Keewatin

Employment Opportunities For Tep Graduates

Request For Rock Crusher For Lake Harbour

Inventory Of Historic Sites

Process For Obtaining Bingo Licences

Minister's Meeting With NWT Seniors' Society

Questions On Municipal Election Ballots

Written Question 5-12(6): Status Of Employment For Doctors In The Nwt

Committee Report 11-12(6): Report On The First Annual Report (1992-93) Of The Languages Commissioner Of The Nwt

Item 14: Tabling Of Documents

Item 16: Notices Of Motions

Bill 14:

An Act To Repeal The Public Service Vehicles Act

Bill 13:

An Act To Amend The Motor Vehicles Act

Bill 15:

An Act To Amend The Legislative Assembly And Executive Council Act

Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Bill 6: Access To Information And Protection Of Privacy Act

To Amend Clause 7

To Delete Clause 74 Of Bill 6

Item 21: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Revert To Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 23: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Mr. Allooloo , Mr. Antoine , Hon. Silas Arngna'naaq , Mr. Arvaluk , Mr. Ballantyne , Hon. Nellie Cournoyea , Mr. Dent , Mr. Gargan , Hon. Stephen Kakfwi , Mr. Koe , Hon. Jeannie Marie-Jewell , Hon. Rebecca Mike , Hon. Don Morin , Hon. Richard Nerysoo , Mr. Ng , Mr. Ningark , Mr. Patterson , Mr. Pudlat , Mr. Pudluk , Hon. John Todd , Mr. Whitford , Mr. Zoe

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---Prayer

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Good morning. Item 2, Ministers' statements. The honourable Member for Keewatin Central , Mr. Todd .

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Minister's Statement 23-12(6): 1993 Annual Report Of The Workers' Compensation Board

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, next week, I will table the 1993 annual report of the Workers' Compensation Board. This is the official record of the year ended last December 31st, and is being tabled to comply with the provisions of the Workers' Compensation Act.

---Applause

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. This turnaround allowed the board to freeze the 1994 rates.

Last year, I told this Assembly that the board had adopted a funding strategy to return it to a fully funded position within one year without increasing employer premiums. There was some concern that this might be accomplished at the expense of injured workers. Let me stress that this was not and is not the case.

Throughout 1993, the WCB worked to create a more efficient, less costly and more accessible operation. Many internal changes were made to streamline the flow of information and improve the level of customer service.

The board introduced or refined policies on affirmative action, official languages and northern incentives, all of which are important to this Legislature. A communications campaign was initiated to reach all stakeholders through a series of community visits, focus groups and speaking engagements. A quarterly newsletter called "Directions" has been very well-received.

On July 1, 1993, the board began using a newly developed NWT impairment rating

schedule to ensure fairness in awards for permanent disabilities.

Rehabilitation and medical programs were managed more effectively. The focus of rehabilitation programs was shifted from academic studies to on-the-job retraining. New courses were developed to promote safety awareness. More than 1,000 participants took

part in 10 safety courses offered by the WCB in nine communities.

These changes were all directed at improving and providing quality customer service to both claimants and employers.

Faced with mounting liabilities and a sluggish economy, some jurisdictions reduced the level of benefits paid to injured workers. I'm pleased to say that our WCB has made no such cuts, and none are planned.

Turning briefly to the annual report, Madam Speaker, the board has responded to the concerns of Members of this House by including more and better information. The report shows that during 1993, the board accepted 3,307 claims, down slightly from 1992. The claim rate per 100 workers was also lower. The board served a total of 3,150 employers, which paid assessments totalling $22.5 million.

In conclusion, Madam Speaker, the board's careful attention to the balance between workers' and employers' needs has resulted in a fully funded position without cutting benefits.

The board's contingency reserve, which was completely depleted in 1992, has been re-established as two new reserves to ensure that stakeholders understand what they are intended to do. The catastrophic reserve, at $3.3 million, is to provide funds for disasters and unforeseen events. The operating reserve, at $1 million, is intended to protect against adverse financial results in future years.

Madam Speaker, I commend the board for its work during 1993, and I am pleased to accept this report and table it in the House later next week. Thank you.

---Applause

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Minister's Statement 23-12(6): 1993 Annual Report Of The Workers' Compensation Board

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Madam Premier .

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Minister's Statement 24-12(6): Appointment Of The Board Chairman, Stanton Yellowknife Hospital

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Madam Speaker, I am pleased to announce the appointment of Mr. Anthony Chang as the new chairman of the board of management of the Stanton Yellowknife Hospital.

As the Members know, the Stanton Yellowknife Hospital has taken on an expanded role as the regional referral hospital for the western Arctic. This expanded role required a new board structure including regional representation from all western Arctic health boards, as well as the north Great Slave. All representative groups, including the Stanton board, were contacted for nominations to the position of chair.

Mr. Chang is a 20-year resident of the Northwest Territories and brings to the position considerable management, business and volunteer experience. He is well-known as a result of his extensive travel within the north. He is an owner and operator of several enterprises and his strong management skills complement his experience in volunteer activities.

Madam Speaker, Mr. Chang will provide stability and strong accountable leadership to the hospital as it develops its new role as a regional referral hospital. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

---Applause

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Minister's Statement 24-12(6): Appointment Of The Board Chairman, Stanton Yellowknife Hospital

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Baffin South , Mr. Pudlat .

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Minister's Statement 24-12(6): Appointment Of The Board Chairman, Stanton Yellowknife Hospital

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Kenoayoak Pudlat

Baffin South

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Minister's Statement 24-12(6): Appointment Of The Board Chairman, Stanton Yellowknife Hospital

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Minister's Statement 24-12(6): Appointment Of The Board Chairman, Stanton Yellowknife Hospital

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Excuse me. I'm sorry, according to the translators we're not getting any of your comments back. It appears that we are having some technical difficulty. We'll recess for about five minutes to address it. Thank you.

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Minister's Statement 24-12(6): Appointment Of The Board Chairman, Stanton Yellowknife Hospital

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Item 3, Member's statements. The honourable Member for Baffin South , Mr. Pudlat , do you want to try again?

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Apologizing To Constituents For Absence In The House

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Kenoayoak Pudlat

Baffin South

(Translation) Thank you, Madam Speaker. I am sorry for the inconvenience I have caused. Madam Speaker, maybe you can hear what I have to say now. I stand today to express my apologies for not being in the House for the last two days. I want to apologize to my constituents. I realize I have a lot of work that I have to carry out. But, I was having health problems and was unable to participate during the last two days. I wanted to express that to you, Madam Speaker. Thank you.

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Apologizing To Constituents For Absence In The House

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for High Arctic , Mr. Pudluk .

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19th Anniversary As An Mla

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Ludy Pudluk

High Arctic

(Translation) Thank you, Madam Speaker. As we are all aware, we won't be meeting tomorrow as it will be Saturday. It will be October 15th tomorrow. I remember back in 1975, I was first elected on October 15th. I am very happy today that I am still here.

---Applause

At the same time, I realize there are difficulties we have to work through, whether they are verbal, or difficulties concerning our families and friends. I am very happy that I have been able to face those challenges. I expect to continue working within this House.

Looking back to October 15, 1975, it seems like a short time ago, but it has been a long time now. I want to express my gratitude to the people who have continued to vote for me and I want to thank you for helping me meet my challenges. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

---Applause

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19th Anniversary As An Mla

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Happy anniversary tomorrow. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Deh Cho , Mr. Gargan .

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Alternatives To Watching Hockey On Tv

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, you may recall that last week I rose in the House to make a statement on the lack of baseball in October and how it affects my constituents. As Canadians, Madam Speaker, we now face a much greater crisis. There is no hockey.

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Alternatives To Watching Hockey On Tv

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Some Hon. Members

Shame, shame.

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Alternatives To Watching Hockey On Tv

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Madam Speaker, with the lack of sports on television, people are going into withdrawal. Grown men are crying because they are being forced to watch Walt Disney movies...

---Laughter

...instead of Hockey Night in Canada on Saturday nights. The Toronto Sports Network, also referred to as TSN, with the lack of hockey and baseball, have been showing some really interesting sports, such as camel racing, to satisfy the sports fan.

---Laughter

Madam Speaker, if I might be permitted, I would like to offer those poor, misguided sports fans some thoughts that may be of comfort to them in their hour of need. Now that there is no hockey to watch on Saturday night, perhaps a person could spend some quality time with their families. Go hunting, watch your own kids play hockey, confuse the wife and take her out for supper on Saturday night.

---Laughter

The possibilities are endless, Madam Speaker. They could take up the sport of MLA bashing, complain about their personalized licence plates, complain about the fact that some of us drive four-wheel drives and our plates are at eye-level. Little do they realize, Madam Speaker, that this is so we can find our trucks after a hard session at the Gold Range, the Northwest Territories' unofficial Assembly.

Madam Speaker, a person has to realize that professional hockey and baseball are games played by grown men who are paid outrageous sums of money to do what a majority of Canadian males only dream of. Whether your team wins or loses means nothing in the grand scheme of things. Your life will not improve because the Montreal Canadiens win another Stanley Cup.

Finally, Madam Speaker, a sports fanatic has to realize that Don Cherry is not a god. The man, himself, admitted that, if it wasn't for hockey, he would be digging ditches in Ontario somewhere. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

---Applause

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Iqaluit , Mr. Patterson .

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Sedluk's Soapbox

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Madam Speaker, as you may have noticed, I've been feeling a little bit feisty this week. Some honourable Members have commented to me on this and have even asked whether I'm running for re-election again. Yesterday, I even got so worked up that when the Minister of Public Works and Services took my question as notice -- even though I had given him a generous two hours notice -- I came close to uttering an unparliamentary word.

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Sedluk's Soapbox

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Michael Ballantyne

Yellowknife North

You uttered it, we heard it.

---Laughter

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

In fact, Madam Speaker, I guess I should be grateful that your ears were averted at a certain point in time yesterday, for which I thank you.

So, I've been thinking about how wise it is to be angry, strident and confrontational, especially after I noted the remarkable change in tone of Sedluk's Soapbox in Nunatsiaq News' latest edition. Sedluk's Soapbox, as we all know, is written by my honourable predecessor in this House, Mr. Bryan Pearson. Up until now, his very well-written columns have been full of venom and vitriol, often directed at government, sometimes even directed at the current MLA for Iqaluit, who had the gall to challenge Mr. Pearson, not once but twice, for the MLA job.

But, remarkably, Bryan Pearson has mellowed and softened. In his latest column, Madam Speaker, which begins, "Dear reader," Mr. Pearson shows his gentler, kinder side. He writes, "I appreciate the support and interest that you have shown in this column since I was invited to write it more than two years ago. Now, however, after careful consideration and soul-searching, it has occurred to me that the issues and concerns that I have raised and felt were important don't seem to bother others as much as they did me. Therefore, I have decided to write this in a much lighter vein, and to be positive for a change."

So, he then wished the new mayor and council the best of luck. He said it was a thankless job...I would like to carry on, with consent, Madam Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent to continue his statement. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Please proceed, Mr. Patterson .

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you, Madam Speaker. He said that the mayor and councillors' jobs were thankless and then he went on to tell funny stories about tourists who thought they could drive from Iqaluit to Pangnirtung. He finished his column with a recipe for pasta Marinara.

So, Madam Speaker, inspired by Bryan Pearson, I have decided to try to become kinder and gentler from here on. I will try not to criticize the government. If I do, I will try to be more sympathetic and understanding.

For example, I've been thinking about Mr. Morin . Instead of thinking about his Department of Public Works and Services as a bloated, centralized bureaucracy with layers of architects supervising architects supervising architects, I should try to sympathize with the Minister. As he said yesterday, he is struggling with the loss of 67 person years. I think they must have all been architects, Madam Speaker, because DPW used to have hundreds of architects. I suppose now they only have dozens.

So, Madam Speaker, you will not be hearing a lot of outrage, shock and dismay from me in the coming week. In fact, I will be spending most of the week in Rankin Inlet at the NTI economic conference. Happy Friday. Thank you.

---Applause

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Antoine .

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Election Day In Fort Simpson

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Mahsi, Madam Speaker. Today I would like to say something about the coming elections in tax-based municipalities. I have the tax-based municipality of Fort Simpson in my constituency. On Monday, people from the community will go to the polls to elect a mayor and councillors for the village council. I just want to say that running for municipal office is a very challenging three years. It is a very important three years.

We are talking about a lot of issues that are going to affect the lives of everybody. The main one is constitutional development in the north, and people in the communities have to be more involved in the whole process. There are outstanding land claim issues in my area, as well as economic development issues. People who are running are all good people. I just wanted to say whoever gets in, I will certainly be, as an MLA, willing to work hard with them to achieve whatever their goals are. I just wanted to say that. Mahsi. Thank you.

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Election Day In Fort Simpson

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Inuvik , Mr. Koe .

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NWT Seniors' Society

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Mahsi, Madam Speaker. I rise today to say a few words about a segment of our population who are well-respected; I certainly respect a lot of them and these are our seniors and elders who, over time, have provided good guidance and wise counsel to myself and, I'm sure, all of my colleagues in this House.

In the report on the Special Committee on Health and Social Services which was issued or released last November, and in our trips across the north, in the communities we visited and people we've talked to, we talked to a lot of elders and seniors in their homes and meetings, wherever we had opportunities to meet them. We took their counsel and information. We had a

section in the report on elders and their needs and wishes and made some recommendations.

Madam Speaker, there is now, in the territories, a Northwest Territories Seniors' Society. They've written some correspondence to the different Ministers and also to the committee, when it existed, on their wishes. I just wish to reiterate a few of their comments. The number of seniors and elders in the Northwest Territories continues to increase and with this growth, government faces new challenges in the expansion and the delivery of programs and services to Northwest Territories residents.

The seniors' society also made some points they wish the government to consider when deliberating about their needs and programs for seniors. First, during the next two years, federal, territorial and provincial governments will be embarking on ambitious programs to reform health care and social services for Canadians. They will also be examining existing taxation regimes which affect disposable and pension incomes for seniors and elders. Finally, governments will be considering measures to reduce overlap and duplication in a number of programs and services.

Madam Speaker, my time is up. I seek unanimous consent to complete my statement.

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NWT Seniors' Society

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Continue, Mr. Koe .

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NWT Seniors' Society

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Mahsi, my colleagues and thank you, Madam Speaker. The Government of the Northwest Territories then, will need timely advice and input from seniors and elders on how these initiatives will affect them. Secondly, the Government of the Northwest Territories as we know it will no longer exist at the turn of the century.

Division, aboriginal self-government initiatives and transfer of responsibility and delivery of programs and services to community and regional governments will mean major changes in the way in which seniors and elders interact with their governments. These initiatives will hopefully improve the quality of life for all northern residents including seniors and elders who are major users of these programs and services.

Thirdly, there are a number of current and ongoing initiatives which could have significant implications, including the need for more social housing, violence and abuse of the elderly, health care benefits for aboriginal and non-aboriginal seniors and facility care for the frail seniors. The governments need constructive and coordinated advice on these issues from a senior's perspective.

Fourthly, while we may well be into the information age, the Government of the Northwest Territories needs to take steps to coordinate its approach to providing information to seniors and elders and process these inquiries.

Madam Speaker, the elders have also made many suggestions to the government and I hope they take these very seriously and assist our elders and seniors wherever they can. Mahsi.

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Yellowknife South , Mr. Whitford .

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Congratulating Wcb

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, I'd like to take this opportunity to congratulate the Workers' Compensation Board for the progress they've made over the past year, according to the Workers' Compensation Board report that the honourable Mr. Todd tabled or read into the record this morning.

I'm going to take the report and the Minister's statement at face value, Madam Speaker, and offer congratulations to the hard work that's gone into bringing this corporation around from a deficit, from what was perceived to be a very tough, hard-nosed, uncaring department by people who need to use their services. It's good to see that perhaps we're going to see a kinder, gentler department in the future.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Continue, Mr. Whitford .

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Thank you, colleagues. While I recognize there is not just one side, although it is just the one side often times I hear. There are two sides to the stories and I try to get both sides so that we can understand. But sometimes it doesn't take much to assuage a person's fear. A little extra help does go a long way and I know there are certainly some very good employees who are taking that extra effort to make things a little better.

---Applause

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe , Mr. Morin .

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Page 275

The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

In Pond Inlet

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I have a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Allooloo on October 7, 1994, on the investigation of a contractor in Pond Inlet. On October 7, 1994, the honourable Member for Amittuq asked a question regarding an RCMP investigation into potential false claims by the contractor in Pond Inlet.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Madam Premier .

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Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Page 275

Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I have a reply to an oral question asked by Mr. Gargan on October 12th, as to whether the Department of Health and Social Services is doing any monitoring of drinking water in the Mackenzie and Slave rivers.

The Mackenzie health service monitors drinking water quality in all communities on the Slave and south Mackenzie river systems at least monthly for bacteria. The other regional health boards have similar monitoring programs.

In addition, full chemical analysis is conducted on an annual basis in cooperation with the Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development.

The Department of Municipal and Community Affairs has recently completed a Northwest Territories water quality study in which the water quality of all NWT communities was examined and found to conform to the national drinking water standards.

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Page 275

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 4, returns to oral questions. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Nerysoo .

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Return To Question 125-12(6): Criteria For Selection Of Candidates For Tep

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Page 275

Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Speaker. This is a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Ng on October 13, 1994 regarding the criteria for selection of candidates for the teacher education program.

The criteria for the admission of students in an NWT teacher education program, delivered on campus or in a community, is identified in the Arctic College program calendar. Generally, the criteria for admission in a teacher education program requires that the candidate:

-is 17 years of age or older;

-has a strong desire to work with children; and,

-is mature, responsible and reliable.

The candidate must have one of the following:

-a high school diploma; or,

-a minimum of grade 10, two years successful experience as a classroom assistant, and a reference from both the principal and the community education council; or,

-the numeracy and literacy skills required by the teacher education program.

Arctic College selects candidates for campus-based teacher education programs based on these criteria. The college, in partnership with boards and divisional boards of education also uses this criteria to screen candidates for community-based programs.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 4, returns to oral questions. The honourable Member for Baffin Central , Ms. Mike .

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Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Page 275

Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I have a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Zoe on October 13, 1994.

The department continues to support involvement and participation from the NWT in the North American Indigenous Games. These games are held every second year, in 1993 in Prince Alberta, Saskatchewan and in 1995 to be held in Bemidji, Minnesota.

Previous support for the North American Indigenous Games has been, as Mr. Zoe noted, on an ad hoc basis as our resources allowed. The department assisted 50 athletes and officials from Rae-Edzo to attend the games in Prince Albert. I would like to see a more formal program approach to our support for these games and continue to support the ministerial initiative developed by the former Minister.

The department has discussed this matter with several teachers for the Dogrib Divisional Board of Education and advised them that we are continuing to try and establish a proper program to assist our participation in these games. Discussion on specific support for possible participants is premature, however, until we make further progress on a program for assistance. Any

interpretation that we will not support participation in the games is mistaken, and unfortunate; it is that we simply do not yet know the scope and nature of our involvement.

I would, again, confirm that I support our involvement in the 1995 North American Indigenous Games and will give priority to establishing a program of support in time for proper preparation for the 1995 games. Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. You have another return to oral question, Ms. Mike . Proceed.

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Page 276

Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. This question was asked by Mr. Ng on October 13, 1994 on land use permit procedures.

DIAND procedures do call for the circulation of land use permit applications on Crown lands outside municipal boundaries to the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs for comment. The department's opportunity to comment does vary, however, and in some cases we are not involved at the application stage. Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Kitikmeot , Mr. Ng .

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Question 131-12(6): Criteria For Repayment Of Access Housing

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 276

Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Housing , but as he's not here right now I'll pose it to Madam Premier . It's regarding the access housing home ownership program. We know that there's been a big increase in the interest in that program over the past few years since it's been established. I would like to ask what criteria the corporation uses for establishing the repayment amount for applicants.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Madam Speaker, there are criteria set. I will take the responsibility to have the Minister of Housing provide that information to the honourable Member. Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Supplementary, Mr. Ng .

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would also ask, since the Minister hasn't take it as notice, that the Minister be asked to provide the information on whether the excess materials from these packages that are supplied to the home owners, whether they remain the ownership of the new home owner or if the Housing Corporation retains ownership for those materials. Thank you.

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Thank you. Madam Premier .

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Madam Speaker, yes I will take the responsibility to have the Minister provide that information. Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Antoine .

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Question 132-12(6): Liquor Restrictions In Fort Simpson

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 276

Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Mahsi, Madam Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Safety and Public Services , the Honourable Richard Nerysoo . It's with regard to a petition that was signed in Simpson with over 120 names about revisiting the liquor restrictions that are in place in Fort Simpson. This was a request that the Minister was responsible for, to see if it is actually a plebiscite the community is looking for, at the municipal election that is coming up on Monday. If so, what is the response of the Minister to that petition? Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Minister responsible for Safety and Public Services , Mr. Nerysoo .

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you. The matter has been reviewed. The one issue that is important is that it is not a matter that is going to be dealt with in the municipal election. It is a legitimate request, but at this particular juncture I have not given the final approval as to whether an appropriate plebiscite would be held.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Antoine .

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I'm told that there will be a question on the election ballot in Fort Simpson, to ask citizens who will be voting whether they would want to revisit the question of alcohol restriction in Fort Simpson. I would like to ask the Minister if he is aware of that. Thank you.

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Page 277

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Minister of Safety and Public Services , Mr. Nerysoo .

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you. No, Madam Speaker.

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Page 277

Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

I would like to ask the Minister, what constitutes a plebiscite during an election? Is it the type of question that is worded on the ballot; does that constitute a plebiscite? I would like to qualify the question by saying that if the municipal government decides to put a question on the ballot of a very general nature, asking the citizens whether they want to revisit alcohol restriction, to put more restrictions on it or to open it up more, does that constitute a plebiscite? Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Safety and Public Services , Mr. Nerysoo .

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Madam Speaker, I am not responsible for the issues related in a municipal election. I would suggest to the honourable Member that I have not given approval for a plebiscite, so the matter is probably being raised to ask the question of the electorate in that particular community. I will have to take the question as notice, because I don't know the details of the issue. It could just be a municipal question, which is not a plebiscite.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Inuvik , Mr. Koe .

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Question 133-12(6): Support For An NWT Team At 1995 Indigenous Games

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 277

Fred Koe

Inuvik

Mahsi, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs. I was very pleased when she provided some information on the international indigenous games, which she said she would be supporting. I am also very interested on a personal level, because I pretend to be an athlete, even though this body doesn't look like one.

---Laughter

I've had opportunities to participate in these games as an official and as an athlete, but due to the political career I took on, I had to forego those opportunities. There are many athletes in the Northwest Territories, Inuit, Dene, Metis, who are eligible for these games. Knowing the international level through Arctic Winter Games and other national sporting events, people who participate work very hard and are very proud to represent the Northwest Territories and the region they are from.

My question is, will the Government of the Northwest Territories be supporting team Northwest Territories for the 1995 indigenous games, scheduled for Bemidji, Minnesota?

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Ms. Mike .

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. At this point in time, I cannot say because this is under review with department officials and the people involved. Thank you.

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Thank you. I know it will take some planning and internal work, especially with the restructuring. I'm sure staff are very busy doing other things. But, it is important, as I mentioned, to athletes and organizers of these teams that they start their preparatory work and planning. It is a long way from here to Bemidji. I'm just wondering how soon do you see this planning you are doing coming to fruition?

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Ms. Mike .

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I believe Cabinet should address these matters and I will be bringing forward a discussion paper very shortly to Cabinet. Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Iqaluit , Mr. Patterson .

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Question 134-12(6): Appearance Of Diand Minister The Honourable Ron Irwin

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 277

Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, I believe it was to be the coming week that Mr. Irwin was scheduled to come to Yellowknife, address the Legislature and meet with the Constitutional Development Steering Committee. I would like to ask whoever is in charge of this event, Madam Speaker -- the Premier or the Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs -- whether there is any news on whether Mr. Irwin will be coming and addressing the House. I believe it was going to be the coming week that he was coming. Thank you.

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Mr. Patterson , I am having a problem with your question. I don't know whether you wanted to ask the Premier or the Minister responsible for Intergovernmental Affairs . The motion that this House passed directed the Speaker to invite Mr. Irwin. Would you clarify what Minister you would like to ask?

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I do understand that the invitation came from your office, but I believe the Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs had a role in coordinating the visit, so I would like to direct the question to Mr. Kakfwi . Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Intergovernmental and Aboriginal Affairs , Mr. Kakfwi .

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Madam Speaker, we have no date agreed to at this time. Thank you.

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister, is it just a question of sorting out a date? The Minister wants to come, but is it just a matter of sorting out a date, or is it a question of whether he is going to come or not. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Intergovernmental and Aboriginal Affairs , Mr. Kakfwi .

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Madam Speaker, the Minister has committed to accept the invitation. It is a matter of finding a date suitable for everyone. Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for High Arctic , Mr. Pudluk .

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Question 135-12(6): Generator For Grise Fiord Airport

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 278

Ludy Pudluk

High Arctic

(Translation) Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would like to direct my question to the Minister of Transportation , regarding airports. Last summer, a generator was being built in Resolute Bay. I would like to ask the Minister when that generator will be given to the airport. Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Transportation , Mr. Todd .

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Airport

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I don't know. I will have to find out from the department and advise the Members. Thank you.

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Ludy Pudluk

High Arctic

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Did I understand that the Minister of Transportation is taking the question as notice?

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Thank you. Minister of Transportation , Mr. Todd .

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

No, I'm not taking it as notice, Madam Speaker. I am committing to advising my honourable colleague of a long tenure in this House on the status of his request. We'll get back to him sometime later on today or Monday. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Baffin South , Mr. Pudlat .

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Question 136-12(6): Status Of Birthing Centre Pilot Project In Keewatin

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 278

Kenoayoak Pudlat

Baffin South

(Translation) Thank you, Madam Speaker. I made a Member's statement earlier that talked about a birthing centre. I'd like to ask a question about whether the birthing centre in the Keewatin is going well. I'd like to ask the Minister of Health and Social Services whether the pilot project being done in the Keewatin is going well. Thank you.

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Page 278

The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Health and Social Services, Ms. Cournoyea .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 278

Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Madam Speaker, as I've referred to it before, we are getting the statistics from the birthing project in Rankin Inlet and doing a bit of an evaluation, but I'll be in a better position to provide that information at the end of the month. So I'll take that question as notice and provide that information once it has been compiled. Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Kitikmeot , Mr. Ng .

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Question 137-12(6): Employment Opportunities For Tep Graduates

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 278

Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Sorry, Madam Speaker. The question is to the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment . I'd like to thank him for his speedy response to the criteria for selection of the teacher education candidates. I'd like to ask the Minister, are these candidates, if they're successful in their

graduation, automatically entitled to positions as teachers. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Nerysoo .

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Speaker. No, they're not automatically entitled to positions, but one of the requirements or portions of the support given by boards is normally the identification of a position for that individual to assume. That is normal practice so that it will allow the individual to go through the educational programming with a view that there's a benefit at the end of the commitment they've made to their education.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Madam Speaker, I'd like to ask, for these students, how are they financed to go through their teacher education program. Are there grants or loans or educational leave if they happen to have been government employees prior to that, or a combination of those methods? Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Speaker. It could be a combination of the method of financing, either through student financial assistance, or there's an additional loan program that has been approved previously by my Cabinet colleagues and it's assistance for the community teacher education primarily. The other issue is that in some cases, educational leave is given to some of the TEP students who have been part of the personnel of the department previously.

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I'd like to ask the Minister if the teacher education program students are unsuccessful in completing their courses or if they are successful and decide to leave the Northwest Territories for whatever reasons, do they have to repay any portion of their grants, contributions or paid educational leave they might have received during the course of their education. Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Speaker. It all depends on the program that is being used. If there are aboriginal students who are part of the particular program, they have the normal grants and supplementary grants that are provided that are non-repayable. There is a forgivable loan that is provided to non-aboriginal, non-status people, but they must pay it back. That's normal practice under the present financial assistance that's given to students.

The other thing that was given was the whole issue of the forgivable loan and I believe that that is repayable if they don't reside in the Northwest Territories.

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Final supplementary, Mr. Ng .

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I'd like to ask for non-aboriginal people who have been granted educational leave from their previous employment as government employees, if they left the Northwest Territories upon completion of this program, would they have to repay their educational leave. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Nerysoo .

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I'd have to report back to the honourable Member, but I do not believe that the educational leave program is repayable.

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Baffin South , Mr. Pudlat .

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Question 138-12(6): Request For Rock Crusher For Lake Harbour

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 279

Kenoayoak Pudlat

Baffin South

(Translation) Thank you, Madam Speaker. This question is to the Minister of the Department of Transportation. I would also like to thank him for what he has done for me. In Cape Dorset, they don't have a rock crusher. They want to begin crushing rocks. Madam Speaker, I would like to ask the Minister of Transportation if his department would be able to provide a rock crusher for the community of Lake Harbour because the community has a shortage of gravel. I would like to know if his department would be willing to provide us with a rock crusher in Lake Harbour and when. Thank you.

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Page 279

The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Minister of Transportation , Mr. Todd .

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. The question by the honourable Member would probably be more effectively handled through the granular program that Public

Works and MACA has, where they have a revolving fund which allows equipment to go into the community and to crush the kind of gravel the honourable Member is talking about and then stockpile it for community use, whether it's for the airports or on community roads.

I would advise the honourable Member that he put a request in to MACA and DPW for this granular program. It has worked fairly effectively in other communities and they'll establish a time when they can do it. That will then enable the community of Cape Dorset to have adequate crushed gravel for any projects. It was Cape Dorset, wasn't it? If he goes through MACA and DPW and applies for the granular program, they'll establish a

schedule as to when they can do it. They will then be able to crush the gravel which will meet the requirements of that community at that time. I'd like to thank my honourable colleagues for helping me this morning. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife South , Mr. Whitford .

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Question 139-12(6): Inventory Of Historic Sites

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 280

Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, I have a question I would like to direct to the Minister responsible for heritage, I guess it could be, in the Northwest Territories. There has been a lot of concern about environmental clean-up in the last little while, there have been teams of people going about the north picking up garbage here and there, from old mine sites, exploration sites, old tourism areas, fishing camps and places like that.

But there has also been a concern expressed by the public that there are a lot of old mine sites that are of a historical nature, things that are part of our mining industry -- I think my colleague, Mr. Lewis , alluded to that last week -- that are of historical value for the tourism industry and just part of our history. I want to ask the Minister whether his department has made any effort to inventory old sites, be they whaling camps, mine or exploration sites, something of a historical nature, to determine their historical value and preservation requirements or destruction requirements, whatever. Has an inventory been taken?

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 280

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Nerysoo .

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Generally, the responsibility for the whole matter of mine clean-up rests with the Department of Indian and Northern Affairs. However, what I will do and commit to the honourable Member is to get the appropriate information that he seeks in terms of finding out whether or not cataloguing is being done by the Department of Indian and Northern Affairs in conjunction with our heritage staff.

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Page 280

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for High Arctic , Mr. Pudluk .

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Question 140-12(6): Process For Obtaining Bingo Licences

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 280

Ludy Pudluk

High Arctic

Thank you, Madam Speaker. My question will be directed to the Minister of Safety and Public Services , Mr. Nerysoo . Some of the communities are complaining about getting bingo licences. Some of the communities don't know where to go or how to get their bingo licence. Who should they contact to get their bingo licence?

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Safety and Public Services , Mr. Nerysoo .

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Just so that I can advise honourable Members, most of the responsibilities for lottery licensing has been delegated to the regional directors. In particular, Inuvik, Kitikmeot, Baffin and Keewatin. Yellowknife and the Fort Smith region are administered out of Yellowknife.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Pudluk .

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Ludy Pudluk

High Arctic

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Have those communities been advised where they could get their licences?

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Page 280

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Safety and Public Services , Mr. Nerysoo .

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I believe that most of the communities are aware, particularly municipal councils are aware and have been advised. However, what I will do on behalf of the honourable Member is to advise again, through letter, immediately, as to where they should contact and the appropriate number of where to contact and apply for lottery licences.

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Page 280

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Inuvik , Mr. Koe .

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Question 141-12(6): Minister's Meeting With NWT Seniors' Society

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 280

Fred Koe

Inuvik

Mahsi, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, earlier today I made a statement about the Northwest Territories Seniors' Society and some of their initiatives and concerns. We know that, by letter, the Northwest Territories Seniors' Society requested a meeting with the Minister of Health and Social Services. I would like to ask whether the Minister has met with that society recently.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 280

The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Health and Social Services, Madam Premier .

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Madam Speaker, in the last 30 days, I've met with the seniors on two occasions, as well as attended and addressed their annual meeting. Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Koe .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Mahsi. I'm glad the Minister has been able to actively participate with this group. Also by letter, the society had requested some financial assistance to help them get organized and coordinate some of their activities across the north. Has the Minister been able to secure any money for the society?

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 281

The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Health and Social Services, Madam Premier .

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Madam Speaker, there were a number of requests and suggestions from the seniors' group on how we can work together. I did commit to meet with them on a regular basis so that we could coordinate our activities. The issues that were brought up -- there were a number of them -- are being dealt with at this time.

The specifics on asking for dollars to help them organize was not one of the issues that were immediate, although we did discuss how we would work together in the future. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Page 281

The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Antoine .

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Question 142-12(6): Questions On Municipal Election Ballots

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 281

Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Mahsi, Madam Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs a question which is similar to the questions I posed to the Minister of Safety and Public Services with regard to questions during the municipal election. I would like to ask the Minister if questions that are asked to the citizens in the community, if these questions -- depending on the way they're worded -- are binding to the municipal council after the election. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 281

The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Ms. Mike .

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would have to check. I am not particularly aware of that one, so I'll take his question as notice.

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Page 281

The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Item 7, written questions. The honourable Member for Kitikmeot , Mr. Ng .

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Written Question 5-12(6): Status Of Employment For Doctors In The Nwt

Item 7: Written Questions

Page 281

Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Speaker. My written question is to the Minister of Health and Social Services.

Would the Minister responsible for the Department of Health and Social Services please advise this House of the following:

1)How many doctors are employed by the department and/or health boards in the NWT?

2)What are the locations where these doctors are based and what areas do they serve in the NWT?

3)Are they full-time employees or on service contract to the department or health boards?

4)What speciality medical services are contracted to provide health care services to the Department of Health?

Thank you.

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Item 7: Written Questions

Page 281

The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 7, written questions. Item 8, returns to written questions. Item 9, replies to opening address. Item 10, replies to...Did you have your hand up for replies to opening address, Mr. Arvaluk ? Okay. Item 10, replies to budget address. Item 11, petitions. Item 12, reports of standing and special committees. The honourable Member for Inuvik , Mr. Koe .

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Committee Report 11-12(6): Report On The First Annual Report (1992-93) Of The Languages Commissioner Of The Nwt

Item 12: Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

Page 281

Fred Koe

Inuvik

Mahsi, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, I am pleased this morning to present the report from the Standing Committee on Agencies, Boards and Commissions on the First Annual Report of the Languages Commissioner.

Introduction

The First Annual Report of the Languages Commissioner of the Northwest Territories was tabled in the Legislative Assembly on December 14, 1993. After considerable discussion in the House, a motion was carried on March 21, 1994 to refer the report to the Standing Committee on Agencies, Boards and Commissions. The standing committee was also directed to, "make recommendations on a mechanism to establish reporting relationships and accountability of the Languages Commission to the Legislative Assembly."

This standing committee considered this matter in meetings in Yellowknife from April 25 to 29, 1994. On April 27 and 28, 1994, public hearings were held with the Premier , the Honourable Nellie Cournoyea ; the Speaker of the Legislative Assembly, the Honourable Jeannie Marie-Jewell ; and, the Languages Commissioner, Ms. Betty Harnum.

The standing committee wishes to acknowledge the input of the witnesses and thank them for their appearance at the public hearings. We would also like to thank the Languages Commissioner and her staff for their assistance in preparing this review.

Reporting Relationship Of The Languages Commissioner

The Languages Commissioner is to be an independent entity. Although the resources for the office are provided from government appropriations, the Languages Commissioner is to act independently of government itself.

This independence is reflected in the fact that the Languages Commissioner is to report to the Legislative Assembly, and not to a government Minister. To date, the Languages Commissioner has made appearances before the committee of the whole. However, this does not appear to have been an appropriate forum for the effective review of the Languages Commissioner's reports.

Recommendation 1 in the annual report suggests that a new committee be struck to be responsible for official languages issues. Members of the standing committee disagree. The Standing Committee on Agencies, Boards and Commissions is quite able to take on the task of reviewing the Languages Commissioner's annual reports.

Recommendation 1

The committee recommends that the terms of reference of the Standing Committee on Agencies, Boards and Commissions be amended as follows, by adding the following paragraph:

"The annual reports and any other reports of the Languages Commissioner of the Northwest Territories will be referred to the Standing Committee on Agencies, Boards and Commissions after tabling in the Legislative Assembly. Notwithstanding this formal process, the Speaker is authorized to provide these documents to the standing committee in advance of tabling, to expedite the review by the committee. For further certainty, this review in advance of tabling, may include public hearings and all other authorized activities of the standing committee."

The standing committee also notes recommendation 24 of the Standing Committee on Finance's Report on the Review of the 1994-95 Main Estimates:

"The committee recommends that the Legislative Assembly establish an overall reporting relationship for the Languages Commissioner such that overall reporting is to the Assembly and financial reporting is through the Standing Committee on Finance. The committee further recommends that, in future, the Languages Commissioner should appear before the Standing Committee on Finance to defend her budget."

We agree that the Languages Commissioner should report to, and appear before, the Standing Committee on Finance for budget-related matters.

Madam Speaker, at this time, I would like to turn the next

section of the report over to my colleague, Mr. Ningark .

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. The honourable Member for Natilikmiot , Mr. Ningark .

Role And Responsibility Of The Languages Commissioner

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Item 12: Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

Page 282

John Ningark

Natilikmiot

Thank you, Madam Speaker. The final report of the Special Committee on Aboriginal Languages, tabled in April 1990, included the recommended amendments to the Official Languages Act, which created the office of the Languages Commissioner. The special committee considered whether the exact powers and duties of the Languages Commissioner should be spelled out explicitly. However, they decided that the best choice was not to be specific; rather, the amendments would allow the Languages Commissioner to exercise political will and discretion in determining the powers and duties of the office.

Whenever someone takes on a new job, there is bound to be a period of adjustment and confusion. This is especially true in the case of this newly-created position, where the first incumbent was expected to quickly establish guidelines and boundaries for the responsibilities and authority of the job.

The recurring theme of the First Annual Report of the Languages Commissioner is that this has not been done. Throughout the report, the Languages Commissioner bemoans the lack of guidance regarding the scope of the position. Many of the most important recommendations in the report are essentially pleas for direction.

Committee Members are of the opinion that much of the responsibility for providing that direction rests with the Languages Commissioner herself. As head of an agency which is technically independent of the Government of the Northwest Territories, the Languages Commissioner does not have a Minister or deputy minister to report to. The Languages Commissioner does report to the Legislative Assembly; however, the Assembly's direction has already been made clear in the Official Languages Act, and specifically, in the sections relating to the position of Languages Commissioner, as developed by the Special Committee on Aboriginal Languages.

It is the committee's opinion that further specific direction from the Assembly is not necessary at this point. Therefore, the standing committee does not endorse recommendation 2. Rather, we would encourage the Languages Commissioner to be decisive in determining the range and limits of the authority of the office. Negotiations with the government, such as those surrounding the administrative protocol, are one solution to this aspect of the Languages Commissioner's job.

However, there may be times when the Languages Commissioner must just act, without waiting for direction. Committee Members appreciate that the Languages Commissioner might hesitate, concerned that decisive action might lead to uncomfortable situations. But the political nature of the position means that uncomfortable situations are unavoidable. The position of Languages Commissioner, by its very nature, is independent of the government.

As a watch-dog position, the Languages Commissioner will sometimes be critical of the government, so the relationship between the Languages Commissioner and the government may not always be friendly and cordial. Committee Members feel this is a risk that the office of the Languages Commissioner must bear, if he or she is to effectively carry out the mandate of the office.

Madam Speaker, I will ask Mr. Antoine to continue.

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Antoine .

The Need For Focus

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Madam Speaker, a number of inquiries and complaints have been directed to the office of the Languages Commissioner, and the office has done an admirable job in trying to deal with them all. However, committee Members feel the Languages Commissioner should have defined a limited scope and set of objectives upon first being appointed. The result has been that the Languages Commissioner has become involved in too many areas, and the office has not been able to focus its attention adequately.

The report addresses a number of individual concerns, either through action taken by the Languages Commissioner or through recommendations made; in doing so, however, the report also reflects the lack of clearly defined and limited goals and objectives. The standing committee feels that the Languages Commissioner should develop and stick to a limited set of objectives, such as the definitive objectives defined in the 1994-95 main estimates. This will allow the office to be in control of events as much as possible, rather than letting events control the duties of the office.

Recommendation 2

The committee recommends that the Languages Commissioner annually define a set of goals and objectives to guide the activities of the office. These goals and objectives should be stated in the office's annual budget and reviewed in the Languages Commissioner's annual reports.

Employee Complaints And Inquiries

Recommendation 3 in the report reflects this lack of focus. In the report, the Languages Commissioner describes a number of complaints from government employees, and then recommends t