Debates of March 6th, 2007

This is page numbers 1203 - 1270 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was communities .

Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

Targeted Initiative For Older Workers

Behchoko Dene Hand Game Tournament

Mackenzie Gas Project Socio-economic Impacts Funding

Beaufort-delta Regional Addictions Conference

Resource Revenue Trust Fund

Social Supports For The Homeless

Citizens On Patrol And Community Services Patrol Programs

Internet-based Access To Business Licensing And Permitting Information

Public Information Regarding Convicted Sex Offenders

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Internet-based Access To Business Licensing And Permitting Information

Mackenzie Gas Project Socio-economic Impacts Funding

Funding Assistance For The Community Services Patrol Community

Aboriginal Language Curricular Tools

Consultation With Young People On The GNWT Addictions Awareness Campaign

Public Information Regarding Convicted Sex Offenders

Social Supports For The Homeless

Property Assessment Services In Small Communities

Core Needs For Housing In Small Communities

Income Security Review

Written Question 43-15(5): Actions In Response To Caribou Tag Reductions

Written Question 44-15(5): Municipal Funding Under The New Deal

Written Question 45-15(5): Complaints Filed Against Public Housing Tenants

Written Question 46-15(5): Outfitter Compensation

Written Question 47-15(5): Resource Development Royalties

Tabled Document 106-15(5): Historic Community Funding Amounts 2002-2003 To 2007-2008

Summary

Tabled Document 107-15(5): Federal Revenues From Non-renewable Natural Resource Exploitation In The North, By Category 1986-87 To 2005-06

Item 16: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Item 22: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Honourable Brendan Bell , Mr. Braden , Honourable Paul Delorey , Honourable Charles Dent , Mrs. Groenewegen , Honourable Joe Handley , Mr. Hawkins , Honourable David Krutko , Mr. Lafferty , Ms. Lee , Hon. Michael McLeod , Mr. McLeod, Hon. Kevin Menicoche , Mr. Miltenberger , Mr. Pokiak , Mr. Ramsay , Honourable Floyd Roland , Mr. Villeneuve , Mr. Yakeleya

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---Prayer

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Good morning, colleagues. Welcome back to the House. Orders of the day. Ministers' statements. The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Dent .

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Minister's Statement 79-15(5): Targeted Initiative For Older Workers

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning. The federal Department of Human Resources and Social Development announced a new program for unemployed workers in October 2006. This program, called the "Targeted Initiative for Older Workers" will fund the training and reintegration of older workers into the labour market. The program is intended to help reintegrate persons aged 55 to 64 years of age back into the workforce.

Over the next two years, 2007 to 2009, up to $660,000 in funding will be available to the Northwest Territories in this area. The Government of the Northwest Territories will be required to contribute a minimum of 40 percent to projects, a portion of which may be in-kind.

Older workers have many contributions to make to society and employers can take advantage of their knowledge by reintegrating them back into the workforce. Many older workers want to continue to be actively engaged in employment in our communities. This program is an important investment in our northern human resource capacity. It is a valuable opportunity for older workers to improve their employability through activities such as skills assessment, counselling, skills upgrading and work experience for new jobs. It will also help to address skilled labour shortages.

The Department of Education, Culture and Employment has been holding information sessions with regional staff, stakeholders and potential community partners including the NWT Seniors Society. Program guidelines are being finalized and a public call for proposals will go out in the Northwest Territories for the coming month, with projects getting underway as early as April 2007.

Mr. Speaker, we look forward to the implementation of this new initiative in the Northwest Territories that will help provide older workers across the North with opportunities to re-enter the workforce. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent . Ministers' statements. Members' statements. The honourable Member for Monfwi, Mr. Lafferty .

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Behchoko Dene Hand Game Tournament

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Jackson Lafferty

North Slave

Mr. Speaker, this past weekend was a very exciting event for the community of Behchoko. We had people visit from all over the Northwest Territories to partake in one of the biggest traditional hand game tournaments in the Tlicho region. Mr. Speaker, we have people who came from Tulita, Lutselk'e, Wekweeti, Gameti, Whati, Meander River, Deline, Assumption, Bushie River and others. It was a time to see old faces, Mr. Speaker, renew friendships from neighbouring Dene communities. Elders were happy and grateful for this opportunity to renew an important tradition.

Mr. Speaker, we have players that were 75-plus years of age to our youngest, approximately 15 years of age. As you can see from these ages, the knowledge and wisdom passed on traditionally via sharing their knowledge through interaction.

Mr. Speaker, I am very proud to say the community of Gameti won the overall tournament this weekend. Lutselk'e came in second place; Behchoko came in third place. It's outstanding to see these remarkable teams. We had over 21 teams who participated. Congratulations to all teams that participated. The community was overwhelmed with 700-plus people who came in to visit the community. It was like witnessing another land claims celebration, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, you know, we at the GNWT also need to do our part to contribute and subsidize to this special gathering to promote traditional activities and next year we're hoping that we have an MLA team. Mahsi.

---Applause

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Behchoko Dene Hand Game Tournament

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I want to also talk about the traditional hand games that were witnessed in Behchoko over the last week and seeing the number of people there. But more importantly, Mr. Speaker, the people that were there to witness the hand games also shared a common belief in culture of having fun together. When we look at the number of players in there and the number of sponsors that showed an interest that contributed to the hand games, some of

the older people were saying that this was like the old Dene Nation days where people get together from all over the region, they would come, they had some hard issues to talk about, like what we're talking about in this House and in the communities, but they would take time amongst themselves to put away those issues for the day and to play and to have fun.

In the old days they talked about these hand games that were played into other areas of Canada's jurisdiction, such as Yukon, Alberta, even to B.C. Even amongst ourselves in our regions we have different teams. But the fun and energy that was there showed that everybody could enjoy themselves and they could learn a lot. People such as the elders, the youth, were very appreciative of having the community of Behchoko host such a large tournament. We have it also in Hay River. We have it in Tulita and other communities down the Mackenzie Valley that show the importance of hand games. I guess I would also support Mr.

Lafferty 's suggestion as having the GNWT more involved, even to the point of the MLAs having a team in one of these events. I know that when we went to Deline last year, the MLAs were certainly playing and there were some pretty good movers and shakers on our side of the MLAs to play the hand games and some pretty good shooters in terms of how to guess which object is in which hand. I think it would be very good for our people to see us, as leaders, also get out in the community and support them at other events.

I hope that next year at some of the events that we have, team from the MLAs to play hand games with the people and have fun and also to enjoy the activities that each community has to offer in terms of a tournament that hosts the traditional hand games. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe , Mr. Villeneuve .

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Behchoko Dene Hand Game Tournament

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Robert Villeneuve

Tu Nedhe

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I also would like to mention just something about the Dene hand games tournament held in Behchoko there last weekend. As you may well be aware, these hand game tournaments can sometimes have very high stakes and are received by many as a good way to make some quick cash legally, while having fun and meeting old friends.

---Laughter

Mr. Speaker, just for the southern public's information and for the record, in the old days hand games were a very important part of the Dene festivities, which usually were played when different groups met on the trail and usually lasted for several days. Hand games were, and still are, one of the most competitive of all the traditional Dene games. Things like matches and gun powder and shot or tobacco, all of which were very hard to come by in the old days, were often staked. Similarly today, things are staked that are just as hard to come by, like cash and lots of it.

With that, Mr. Speaker, I'd just like to congratulate some Lutselk'e residents like Albert Boucher, George and James Marlowe, Pete Enzoe, Steven Nitah, Tommy Lockhart, Archie Catholique, Lawrence Catholique and Alfred Catholique, who all surprised everyone and captured a very respectable second place at the Dene hand games tournament. I will not say how much cash they won, for obvious reasons, Mr. Speaker, but I will say it was definitely worth the trip and the experience of fun, camaraderie and Dene tradition. Mahsi.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Villeneuve . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Kam Lake , Mr. Ramsay .

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Mackenzie Gas Project Socio-economic Impacts Funding

Item 3: Members' Statements

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I want to speak about the Mackenzie gas project and how it will impact our territory. There is no doubt that the 22 communities located in the valley itself and along the proposed routing of the pipeline will see the largest socio-economic impacts. Just last year, the federal government announced the establishment of a $500 million socio-economic impact fund for communities along the proposed route to be compensated for being impacted by the pipeline.

Mr. Speaker, as we move closer to the development of this pipeline, the pending impacts in all of our communities will become more and more of an issue. How can a government which is a public government abandon 75 percent of our population? Mr. Speaker, I want to state again, like I did last year for the record, that quite clearly the $500 million should go to the 22 communities along the route. They will need and they deserve every dime of that money. The fact of the matter, Mr. Speaker, is that 75 percent of our population and residents do not, and will not, have access to a fund designed to help mitigate social impacts because of this mega project.

How could the Government of the Northwest Territories, or the federal government for that matter, believe that socio-economic impacts would stop at those communities deemed to be affected? How can you build the $9 billion mega project down the heart of our territory of 43,000 people and expect that only some communities will feel the effects? It is virtually impossible, Mr. Speaker. Is it the Government of the Northwest Territories' position today that communities like Yellowknife, like Hay River, Fort Smith, Behchoko, will not bear any social impacts as a result of the pipeline?

What about the aboriginal groups, Mr. Speaker? The Dogrib are left out of the funding. The Akaitcho and Yellowknives Dene are also on the outside looking in.

I'm not sure why the government settled on accepting the $500 million for just the 22 communities. In my mind, and in the minds of 75 percent of our people, the Government of the Northwest Territories has failed to protect the future interests of the majority of our residents. I want to see our Premier talking to the federal government about establishing a second socio-economic impact fund for all the other communities and First Nations in our territory.

Mr. Speaker, I also want to mention the fact that we are on the verge...

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Mr. Ramsay , your time for Member's statement has expired.

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

The Member is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Are there any nays? There are no nays. You may conclude your statement, Mr. Ramsay .

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also want to mention, for the record, that we are on the verge of this $9 billion mega project and we still have not got a resource revenue sharing deal, nor are we any closer to establishing a permanent trust fund or heritage fund from the Mackenzie gas project that will benefit future generations of our people. Mr. Speaker, these outstanding issues continue to be the shame of this government. Thank you.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Nunakput , Mr. Pokiak .

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Beaufort-delta Regional Addictions Conference

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Calvin Pokiak

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I had the opportunity yesterday to attend the opening ceremonies of a regional addictions conference being held from March 5th to 9th, 2007, in Inuvik. Mr. Speaker, during the opening ceremonies a well-respected elder and leader spoke of long ago when alcohol and drugs were unheard of. He spoke about how he grew up not to rely on what was introduced as rations to the people of the Beaufort-Delta. People were proud in those days because in order to survive, you had to be active in order to provide for your family.

By listening to this elder, Mr. Speaker, it should encourage our youth to take notice of what the affects of alcohol and drugs are doing to our youth and society today. He stated we need to turn this around today for our youth and people, and that is why this conference is being held this week.

Mr. Speaker, in partnership with the Beaufort-Delta Health and Social Services Authority and the Inuvialuit Regional Corporation and the Gwich'in Tribal Council, we decided to hold a regional addictions conference because of the increase in alcohol and drug abuse in the region. Should the proposed Mackenzie gas project proceed, the leaders decided the conference is necessary because it may lead to further alcohol and drug abuse and may limit the ability of the Beaufort-Delta residents to participate in the economic benefits the project will provide.

Mr. Speaker, in order to address this problem of alcohol and drug abuse, the Beaufort-Delta Health and Social Services, the IRC and GTC decided a comprehensive plan needs to be developed that is appropriate to our residents and to our communities. Mr. Speaker, some specific topics to discuss at this conference are related to men only, on their traditional and contemporary role in the community, alternative therapies with hard-to-reach youth, helping families have fun and create joy by using recreation, working with families, and an update on addictions and FASD.

Mr. Speaker, in closing, I applaud the leaders of the Beaufort-Delta in taking the lead to gather together to address the concern of alcohol and drug abuse, but, more importantly, to establish a comprehensive plan to address the alcohol and drug problems in the Beaufort-Delta. However, we, as government, must -- and I say must -- play an important role about providing the necessary infrastructure programs and resources so that the Beaufort-Delta can start addressing these problems. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Pokiak . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Thebacha , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Resource Revenue Trust Fund

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, on Monday, March 19th, the federal government is going to table their budget three days after this House adjourns. Mr. Speaker, hopes are riding high on this federal budget. It's going to be the last chance for this 15th Assembly to show progress on resource revenue sharing. Specifically, Mr. Speaker, I'm referring to how the federal government plans to calculate the resource revenues when they look at equalization payments and, in our case, our formula. It is anticipated and hoped that they will put 50 percent on the table and allow provinces to have access to 50 percent and not count those as part of the equalization arrangement.

Mr. Speaker, for us that would be a step up. We have been negotiating hard for the last 11 years hoping at some point we may reach 30 percent. If the government, the Conservative government, does this, then they will in fact deserve full marks. They will have done something the Liberals haven't done in 10 years, which is actually deliver for us on resource revenue sharing.

Mr. Speaker, the reason I raise this today is because if we get 50 percent in that budget, then I think when we get back together in May we should have a serious discussion about finally looking at, as the Member from Kam Lake has referenced and has been referenced by others in the past, the ability and the resources to finally set up a heritage fund; a heritage fund for the people, the future generations of the Northwest Territories; a fund that would be politically tamper proof, that would be similar to something as they have done in Norway, where they have wisely put aside money from their oil and gas to the tune of about $300 billion for future generations.

We know, as we speak, that gas and oil is being pumped south, that diamonds are being removed from the land that we will never get a penny for. So we have an obligation to look as the aboriginal governments do, as the Iroquois do, seven generations out, what are we planning for our children in future generations? This will be our first opportunity, and I think at the earliest opportunity, should that come to pass in the May session, then we should be sitting down at the Legislature to take those first fundamental steps to protect the future generations. Thank you.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Great Slave , Mr. Braden .

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Social Supports For The Homeless

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Bill Braden

Great Slave

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. One segment of our population that is in dire straights are the homeless. This is a condition that affects all ages, all genders, all races. What is the face of homelessness in Yellowknife, Mr. Speaker? A bit of an inventory here: At the SideDoor facility they have a client list of about between 50 and 90 youth on a regular basis, including an overnight shelter. The Centre for Northern Families provides shelter for about 30 women every day, 98 percent of them are Inuit and aboriginal, Mr. Speaker; 60 percent of them are from Nunavut.

The Salvation Army shelters approximately 40 to 50 men every day. Again, the majority are aboriginal men from northern communities and from the South. The YWCA is a tremendous organization with many different plans and services, Mr. Speaker. They see about 30 to 40 families a year who use their five emergency units and 20 rooms, they also provide transitional housing to move families, support families for up to one year. There are about 60 families a year and these, of course, all include children. Mr. Speaker, the Alison McAteer House provides beds for about 175 women a year.

These are women experiencing family violence and have no other resources to turn to. About 100 more women are turned away every year, Mr. Speaker. There are also many organizations for the disabled, seniors, and even the RCMP. They provide a certain homelessness service here. In one year they will undertake to look after about 1,000 people, most of them intoxicated.

Mr. Speaker, if we put all of the homeless together that we know of that are collected here in the city of Yellowknife, we'd end up, we believe, with about the sixth largest community in the Northwest Territories. These people face many barriers. Just putting roofs over their heads in emergency situations is not going to be enough to solve these issues. There needs to be, Mr. Speaker, a continuum of community-based programs and it does not even come close to meeting the needs that we know today. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

The Member is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Are there any nays? There are no nays. You may conclude your statement, Mr. Braden .

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Bill Braden

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The homeless face many, many barriers: fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder, spousal abuse, substance abuse and dependencies, conflicts with the law, employment and education issues, and increasing urbanization. Mr. Speaker, we know that so many people choose to come to Yellowknife and we also know that many of them choose not to return. Our government invests over $120 million a year, Mr. Speaker, in some 17 programs across eight different departments for social services, many of them affecting the homeless.

We know their efforts are not as well coordinated, efficient and focused as they should be. We began this term with a major project, Mr. Speaker, called the income security framework policy, which was intended to streamline this. We are not seeing the results or the progress that we should and we are letting the homeless people of the Northwest Territories down, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Braden . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Range Lake , Ms. Lee .

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Citizens On Patrol And Community Services Patrol Programs

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we often hear about the growth in crimes and other unwanted activities in Yellowknife, but today I'd like to highlight and recognize the good work being done by the Citizens on Patrol program and the newly established Community Services Patrol program being run under the leadership of Yellowknife Coalition of Community Wellness.

Mr. Speaker, in 2006, the COPS program completed 81 patrols, assisted in traffic direction and check stops on a number of occasions, they assisted the RCMP with security at youth dances, they assist the RCMP in other areas, they sort of cover their backs to free the RCMP to do their work. These people are all volunteers. They go out on weekends, they patrol the streets. Last year they reported up to 212 incidents, many of which led to arrests. They were involved in location of stolen vehicles, location of wanted persons, location of stolen property, location and retrieval of stolen bikes.

This year they're starting a new program called CSP, which stands for Community Services Patrol. This is based on an Alaskan model where CSP's mandate goes beyond just observing and reporting. They will have additional resources of medevacs and other people who could get directly involved. This should also result in reducing the time required for the RCMP.

Mr. Speaker, this year they were able to use some of the money that they saved to buy some of the gear for the CSP people so they could be more recognizable. Also, they are reaching out to communities outside of Yellowknife. They've done training of patrollers in the town of Inuvik and I know they are working with people in Behchoko and Ndilo and Detah to see how these programs could be transferred there.

Another thing that I would really like to mention is the work of the coordinator, Mike Lowing, who had a contract given to them to set up this CSP program. The money was received from the crime prevention program from the federal government. But after doing all the work that he did, he decided that he wanted to be a volunteer and he declined to take that money. So I just want to highlight what great work this is and I want to thank Mike Lowing and the Yellowknife Coalition of Community Wellness for a job well done. Thank you very much.

---Applause

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Citizens On Patrol And Community Services Patrol Programs

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 1206

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Internet-based Access To Business Licensing And Permitting Information

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 1206

Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Entrepreneurs in the NWT need the tools that will help them get their

businesses started more effectively and more efficiently. Led by Industry Canada, BizPaL is an innovative project designed to help Canadian businesses save time when accessing licensing and permit information from multiple levels of governments. This is a unique partnership between all levels of government that provide entrepreneurs and businesspeople specified access to information that would help them launch and grow their business. BizPaL is currently used very successfully in a number of provinces including the Yukon.

This online service streamlines information on business requirements, allows for easier and less expensive ways for them to meet the standards that they want to. BizPaL expedites the permits and licensing acquisition process and cuts through the red tape, Mr. Speaker. Anyone interested in establishing a business or looking into the feasibility of one can go to the single website and after answering a few short questions, they can find information on a specific office to contact and, further, the specific permits that they would be required to start.

In essence, Mr. Speaker, this is a one-stop-shop that can be accessed from anywhere at anytime all in an effort to reduce the start-up time as much as possible. In business, as we all know, time is money and it's our job to take the lead to simplify the red tape process for everyone.

Mr. Speaker, in closing, BizPaL is a digital business tool and it has been well received across the country and has been strongly supported by the business community. Mr. Speaker, I will urge the Minister of ITI to consider introducing this innovative tool to the Northwest Territories.

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Public Information Regarding Convicted Sex Offenders

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 1207

Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as anyone who's read the media just recently, you will know that Hay River has encountered a very unfortunate situation where a sex offender from a southern jurisdiction ended up in our small community, unknown to the residents there, and became involved in volunteering in a high school and our library. I think that this is a situation that could occur in almost any small community in the Northwest Territories. We are off the beaten trail, we are trusting, we have people come into our communities and we welcome them, and then something like this comes to light and it does put a fear into us.

I think that our government has a role to play in working with employers and working with our institutions, our schools, and other government-funded agencies to put in place a better safety system whereby these types of people, these offenders, can be detected early on before they have a chance to do harm.

Unfortunately, in Hay River, it would appear that, according to the charges, it may be too late to undo that now, but I think it's a good signal to our government that we need to do more to work with folks to ensure that criminal record checks become a standard course of action and also that there needs to be better reporting between jurisdictions in Canada when these folks fail to show up to report in with probation officers. There needs to be more national communication that goes out to warn people.

I know that sometimes there are issues about the protection of people's privacy, but I think that in the case where people are convicted sex offenders that sometimes you have to weigh their rights in the balance of the rights of other citizens who need to be warned of their whereabouts. So later today, Mr. Speaker, I'll have questions for the Minister of Justice, and perhaps the Minister of Education , as to how we can change our systems and our policies to be more secure in the Northwest Territories against these types of incidents. Thank you.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Groenewegen . Members' statements. Returns to oral questions. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Premier , Mr. Handley .

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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Page 1207

Joe Handley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am pleased to recognize Chief Fred Sangris with the Yellowknives Dene Band. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley . Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Welcome to everyone in the gallery today. I hope you're enjoying the proceedings. Oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Question 424-15(5): Internet-based Access To Business Licensing And Permitting Information

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1207

Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I mentioned in my Member's statement today, I talked about an Internet-based program called BizPaL and it would help small business streamline the process to make sure that they could do all the required permitting. Mr. Speaker, I have personally gone to this website and I found it extremely easy to use. So my question to the Minister of ITI is, is his department aware of this service called BizPaL and has he looked at bringing this to the NWT? Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1207

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . The honourable Minister responsible for Industry, Tourism and Investment , Mr. Bell .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1207

Brendan Bell

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Let me first say that the reduction of red tape for business should be a concern and an initiative that all governments undertake. I know that the Minister of Finance and myself met with the Canadian Federation of Independent Business and they urged us to do a review of the requirements in our jurisdiction and talk about how we could streamline some of these things. The BizPaL program that Industry Canada has rolled out has come to my attention and I have asked my officials to investigate it.

It appears, certainly at my first glance, that there's some real merit into a partnership of this nature. We'd have to look at costs and options and those kinds of things but, yes, I have seen it, Mr. Speaker.

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Page 1208

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bell . Supplementary, Mr. Hawkins .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1208

Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Minister. Mr. Speaker, would the Minister today commit to initiate some type of discussion with our business communities, be it the Yellowknife Chamber of Commerce, the NWT Chamber of Commerce as well as maybe the other chamber of commerce to see if they would be interested in this type of an initiative to help them streamline the business red tape process? Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1208

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . Mr. Bell .

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Page 1208

Brendan Bell

Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, critical for this kind of program portal to work is the partnerships with provinces and territories and all of the relevant stakeholders. I will talk to my department of about this. I know they did receive a presentation from Industry Canada; it's quite possible that the chambers did as well, but I'll ask. I'll also ask if they would sit down and consult with the chambers.

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Page 1208

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bell . Final supplementary, Mr. Hawkins .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate the Minister's emphasis on helping to work to eliminate the red tape process. My last question to the Minister is would he be able to prepare something and report back to the House on the feasibility of bringing this project to the Territories? I realize it's a big project and won't be done overnight but yet we need to get a communications plan out there and look at the feasibility. Could the Minister commit to doing that? Thank you.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . Mr. Bell .

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Brendan Bell

Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, I'll certainly come back to committee members, all Members on the other side of the House, with our analysis. You could just tell him that initially this may be one of the rare cases where, per capita, it works in our favour. Our understanding is that we would be charged on a per capita basis for the partnership with Industry Canada, somewhere in the neighbourhood of $12,000 to $15,000 per year. As the Member has pointed out, time is money and as a former businessperson I can tell him, small business person, that red tape is more than just an irritant; it really does hamper productivity. So this is something we'll look into and we'll come back to Members. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bell . Oral questions. The honourable Member for Kam Lake , Mr. Ramsay .

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Question 425-15(5): Mackenzie Gas Project Socio-economic Impacts Funding

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1208

David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have questions today for the Premier . Last year when the $500 million social-economic impact funding was announced by the federal government I stood up in the House on February 16th of last year asking the government what it was doing in abandoning 75 percent of the population here in the Northwest Territories. The $500 million is for the 22 communities deemed to be affected by the pipeline. Mr. Speaker, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand or appreciate that social impacts will fall down and end up in all of our communities here in the Northwest Territories.

I'd like to start off by asking the Premier , from last year until today, what has his government done in addressing this concern with the federal government so that we can get socio-economic impact funding for each and every community in the Northwest Territories? Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The honourable Premier , Mr. Handley .

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Joe Handley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Member has been persistent on this one; indefatigable I think is the word. This is not the first time he's raised it; he's raised it many times before.

Mr. Speaker, let me go into a little bit of history and take a little bit of time here. We have access and benefits agreements, or impact benefit agreements, for any major development happening in a region. In the case of the diamond mines, there were impact benefit agreements signed between industry and the aboriginal people on whose traditional lands this development was taking place; those included the socio-economic impacts.

In the case of communities along the pipeline, both those who are signing access and benefit agreements and industry appealed to the government to separate out socio-economic impacts and let the access and benefits agreements deal with land access issues and business opportunities. So an arrangement was made between the federal government and the aboriginal access and benefits beneficiaries to then have two arrangements in the place of the one as you had with the diamond mines. So we ended up with access and benefit agreements that deal with business opportunities, employment and so on, and access fees.

Then you have a separate agreement that deals with socio-economic impact for those who are eligible for access and benefit agreements along the route. This did not include anyone else; it did not impact on those who were impacted by diamond mines, for example. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley . Supplementary, Mr. Ramsay .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1208

David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Now I'm even more confused on how this exactly works. I'll tell you, with the City of Yellowknife, the IBAs weren't developed with the City of Yellowknife; they were with the aboriginal groups when it came to the development of the diamond mines north of the city. The City of Yellowknife was

impacted tremendously by resource development north of this city and my suggestion is that it's going to be impacted by the resource development in the Mackenzie Valley, as well. For example, the City of Yellowknife and, as well, the Yellowknives Dene and the Akaitcho that live in the region, how are they going to access funding when they are impacted, and they will be impacted as a result of this resource development. I'd like to know that, Mr. Speaker.

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Paul Delorey

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Joe Handley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Certainly everybody is impacted one way or another by any kind of major development that happens in the Territories. For those people, and I'll say again, for those people on whose traditional land the activity is taking place, there is that opportunity to sign impact benefit agreements or access and benefit agreements, whatever we call them, or to enter into these other special arrangements like the socio-economic impact fund. For everybody in the Territories, aboriginal, non-aboriginal, the big opportunity is for us to achieve success in negotiating resource revenue sharing.

That's the money that will come to all the people in the Territories, including Yellowknife. Mr. Speaker, that is the real source of benefit for all of us; otherwise why have these projects? So it will come through resource revenue sharing and I look forward to full support from everybody for us to succeed in resource revenue sharing negotiations. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley . Final supplementary, Mr. Ramsay .

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The fact of the matter is we've been fighting for resource revenue sharing in this territory for 20 years and I don't know how the Premier 's response to me is going to make me feel any better. I know the budget is coming down, as one of my colleagues has mentioned, on March 19th. Hopefully, there's some good news; but we've been just hoping and praying for far too many years. Again, I want to ask the Premier how is the City of Yellowknife, for example, or the Town of Hay River, going to be able to access any funding to deal with social impacts from the Mackenzie gas project? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Paul Delorey

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Joe Handley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I could tell you right now that Hay River and Yellowknife are not beneficiaries of an impact benefit agreement or an access and benefit agreement, but all the people in the Territories, including Hay River and Yellowknife, benefit from the billion dollars or so that we have negotiated with the federal government for delivery of program services. We all benefit from that. Mr. Speaker, I'm pleased with the support that the federal government gave us in adjustments in the 2006-07 budget, and I look forward to the adjustments that will come in the 2007-08 and future budgets. Mr.

Speaker, I could tell you, though, that we should not hold out hope or expectation that there will be a resource revenue sharing deal in the 2007-08 budget. When I met with the Prime Minister last week, he told me that it was premature, that he wasn't going to be able to deal with that part, but he would deal with fiscal imbalance and that became a bit of a debate between him and I on how that was going to work, but we cannot expect, I don't think, to see a resource sharing deal in that budget.

Mr. Speaker, we all have to work together -- aboriginal, non-aboriginal, large communities, small communities -- if we want to be successful in this. It's been going on for 20 years and I'm going to keep pushing until the last day I have in this office to try and make that deal succeed. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley . Oral questions. The honourable Member for Range Lake , Ms. Lee .

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Question 426-15(5): Funding Assistance For The Community Services Patrol Community

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1209

Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Earlier today I spoke about the good work that the Yellowknife Community Wellness Coalition is doing under the COPS program and CSP program. However, one thing I haven't mentioned is some of the difficulties they are having and my questions are to the Minister of Justice . One of the things that they need is a van. The van has a pretty sad story that I probably should have turned into a Member's statement.

They were able to get a 1984 used van from the City of Yellowknife to carry these people around and the new program, that CSP program, that Alaska model-based program, would allow these people to help those people who are intoxicated or under the influence and keep them somewhere safe and that would relieve the work of the RCMP, who we know are under-resourced and overworked. Really, what they need is a van and this old van, they put lots of money into it to get it going but it keeps breaking down.

They're using the Sir John automotive shop to fix it and the teacher there went on time off so they couldn't even get that, so they got some private sector subsidizing the money to fix it from Canadian Tire. So I'd like to ask, Mr. Speaker, if the Minister could be so kind as to look into this issue and see if the government could help out, because in the long run it's going to save them money for freeing up the RCMP time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1209

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee . The honourable Minister responsible for Justice , Mr. Bell .

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Brendan Bell

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. First I want to applaud the work of this organization and the programs that they've championed, like COPS. I think they're providing a valuable service to our community. We know that the policing and public safety is a community responsibility. The RCMP, obviously, are the key component of that that underpins our community response, but these volunteers are doing a wonderful job. I believe the Anchorage model is something that could be very successful here. The more time we can free up, as the Member points out, the RCMP from having to deal with some of these other social issues related to substance abuse and public intoxication, I think, the

better. So, Mr. Speaker, I'd certainly be prepared to sit down with the organization. I do know that we've funded them in the past; I know that they received funding and help through the RCMP. I'd want to look at exactly what they're proposal is and see what the deficit is that they're talking about, but it's certainly something that we would consider doing. Thank you.

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I know in the past the GNWT department has funded minimal, a very minimal amount, maybe $4,000 or $5,000. The thing is what we have here is a lot of volunteers doing patrolling; we have volunteers organizing this group, really running it very professionally. They had to work for a year to find liability insurance that's suitable and affordable to them. We have a volunteer executive director who was on contract, was willing to give up his salary to make this happen.

So could I ask the Minister for a more firm commitment; not just meeting with the group but would the Minister really look into working within, I don't know, maybe DPW has a disposal van that we could give to them? So would the Minister make a commitment here to look for ways to facilitate them with a van? Thank you.

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Brendan Bell

Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, I am saying that I will look at their case and look at ways that we can help them. I know we have community justice monies available in all regions, all communities of the North. Sometimes those go untapped for various reasons. Sometimes there are program submissions, sometimes there are not. I will look at the funding we have available and I'll make sure that the department sits down with this organization to understand what kind of a gap or deficit they're facing. I'm not sure we can give an organization an asset from government, but if we can it might be a creative way to solve the problem. I'll certainly look at it, Mr. Speaker.

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Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Then could I ask the Minister to commit to having his staff meet with the Community Services Patrol program, which is that one segment of the... because they run two programs. Could I get the Minister to commit their staff to meet with these people and see if we could resolve it within the next two months, or say next month? Thank you.

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Brendan Bell

Yellowknife South

Yes, Mr. Speaker, I can make that commitment. Obviously my staff is listening to the discussion in the House. I would also like to say I appreciate the work that this organization in reaching out to other communities. We know there are challenges in communities like Inuvik, for instance. They've been up to Inuvik to talk about working with that community to bring a similar organization, so that's the kind of response that we need to see across the Territories. I applaud this organization for their efforts and, yes, my officials will undertake to meet as soon as possible to discuss some potential areas we might be able to assist. Thank you.

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Jackson Lafferty

North Slave

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to address my question to the Minister responsible for Education, Culture and Employment . Mr. Speaker, I understand that the Department of Education, Culture and Employment has discounted all the concerns raised by the other education authorities. The language communities in the North are moving forward with the development of a flawed Gwich'in curriculum document. What I mean by flawed, Mr. Speaker, is it does not meet our needs as we have distinct language differences.

Would the Minister please tell us why, in the face of criticism and the opposition of the other language groups in the Northwest Territories, the department is continuing to financially support a flawed curriculum document and a flawed curriculum development process for aboriginal languages in the Northwest Territories? Mahsi.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Dent .

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The process that has been undertaken for development of a curricular tool for language isn't one that specifically deals with each language. What we are looking for is what is the process that each language can fit into a curriculum tool. So it's much like Dene Kede. Dene Kede is a basic curricular tool that doesn't focus on any one language. It allows people to use their language to develop the tool so that it is applicable to that particular region and that particular language. So, Mr.

Speaker, the criticisms to date have been focussed on an expectation that the curriculum is going to come out and tell people how to instruct in each language, and that's not the case. Thank you.

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Jackson Lafferty

North Slave

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Despite the important work of a program like Dene Kede as the Minister stated, for the Dene communities and similar programs for Inuit communities, there has been little or no work over the years on the development of a curriculum document for aboriginal languages in the Northwest Territories. Mr. Speaker, will the Minister commit to revisiting the curriculum development process for aboriginal languages in the Northwest Territories to address the concerns of the education authorities and other language communities in the Northwest Territories? Mahsi.

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will be meeting in April with both the language boards and the chairs from all of the education councils. I will make sure this item is on the agenda for discussion at both of those meetings.

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The development of curriculum is an important aspect of the work that the Department of Education, Culture and Employment undertakes. All of our curricular instruments are considered important, so we don't say that one is more important than the other. All of the areas that are part of our curriculum in the Northwest Territories have to receive attention and make sure there is an important curriculum in place.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent . Oral questions. The honourable Member for Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wanted to ask the Minister of Health and Social Services a question on his announcement yesterday regarding the issue with alcohol and drugs in the communities of the Northwest Territories. Mr. Speaker, the Minister announced the launch of a campaign aimed at youth to reduce or prevent them from getting into alcohol and drugs. I wanted to ask the Minister, could he provide the government in terms of this time frame and types of commitment that will be put to this campaign in terms of helping our youth live a clean, healthy life? Thank you.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . The honourable Minister of Health and Social Services , Mr. Roland .

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Floyd Roland

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the area of the mental health and addictions awareness campaign is something that the department has been working on from within the resources we have available and trying to target the youth is a marketing campaign out there on the ill effects of drug and alcohol use in the territory. We have started working within the department.

Again, we do have limited resources, but we feel that we can focus some of our existing resources in an area that will start to see some results and we will be working with the youth groups and community-based stakeholders and consultation of a development plan we are working on is still in the process. I don't have an actual timeline as to when we will come out with a final document, but we are beginning the process, as I stated, internally and working with other groups out there in trying to come up with an appropriate tool. Thank you.

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Paul Delorey

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, according to the government stats, the youth in the Sahtu are very high and I would ask the Minister if he would consider coming into the Sahtu region to talk to the youth as the main stakeholders. These youth are faced with a tremendous amount of pressure with the pipeline, with the changes in lifestyle and also with the changes of our culture. Would the Minister commit to coming into the Sahtu region, talk to the stakeholders, the youth themselves, in terms of how we help them get off alcohol and drugs and stay away from these types of addictions that are detrimental to the Northwest Territories? Thank you.

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Floyd Roland

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as we develop this plan and come up with a framework that we can go out and have some of the consultations with the youth groups out there, I would be happy to travel with the Member working on our schedules, trying to go in and bring some of this discussion to the forefront. I do believe that if we are going to start this, we are going to start in communities, as well as individuals, families and aboriginal organizations that are involved in this. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Roland . Final supplementary, Mr. Yakeleya .

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I look forward to the Minister arranging some time with me to go into the region. Would he have an open-book policy when he comes into the region that his department doesn't put pre-notions in terms of how we put this together? Just ask the youth, sit down with them, look at what kind of ideas they have, just ask the real stakeholders, the future of our people here in terms of how we help them help themselves. Thank you.

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Floyd Roland

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I guess one is having an open book is which book are we speaking of? In working in the planning, I believe to sit down and have some good dialogue, we need to put some framework in place as to where we hope to go and bounce that off people to find out if it's a good direction or not. So, of course, we are going to be there. When we start this process, we want to hear from individuals on how they think things should go. Ultimately, there are some difficult choices to make for individuals and that has to be part of the process, as well as admitting that things need to be done and choices first need to be made on an individual basis. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland . Oral questions. The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I indicated in my Member's statement, I have very serious concerns over the incidents that have allegedly recently occurred in Hay River and certainly we do know a few of the facts to be true. That is that an individual came into our community and he was on probation in a different jurisdiction and was considered a high-risk sexual offender. Now, he was there for six months before anyone detected his presence in our community.

I would like to ask the Minister of Justice , on a national basis, does the justice system not have a means of having a person report in when they are on probation when they have gone missing for six months from the jurisdiction he was in? It says in some of the information that I have read that he is expected to report to the jurisdiction that he was leaving from and report to the jurisdiction that he was coming to. So, theoretically, he should have come to the Hay River RCMP detachment and identified himself as being a high-risk sexual offender when he arrived in Hay River.

Now, the chances of that happening are probably fairly slim. Given that, I would like to hear the Minister respond to what kind of a safety net is in place to make sure these folks are reporting...I don't want to say folks. Let me say to ensure that these criminals and pedophiles are reporting when they are on probation in jurisdictions in Canada. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . The honourable Minister of Justice , Mr. Bell .

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Brendan Bell

Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, it's a very concerning situation. I know that everybody in the territory is expectably upset by what has happened here and feel that the system has let us down, Mr. Speaker. I want to tell you that the offender was on probation in another jurisdiction, as the Member has indicated. When he didn't report to his probation officer after I think it was a week or two, there was a warrant out for his arrest throughout the country. It is unfortunate that we didn't recognize or notice that he had arrived in the Northwest Territories, was living in the community.

Normally, yes, this offender should have reported to the RCMP and been submitted and included in the sex offender registry, and in that case, had he come into this jurisdiction, the RCMP would have been notified and then they would have made a determination around what kind of notifications had to be made to the local jurisdiction. The problem was that we didn't pick up on the warrant in this jurisdiction and it is regrettable, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bell . Supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, at the school where this individual was volunteering in Hay River, the school has taken a very proactive approach now and they are going to be requiring, by policy, that any volunteer working in our school system would automatically be required to provide a criminal records check. So this is a policy change that has come into place very quickly. I'd like to know what the Minister plans to do to ensure that this is not just in Hay River, that this will be implemented everywhere in the Northwest Territories. As I said, this could have happened anywhere in the North. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Brendan Bell

Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, I think that's a very good suggestion and obviously this was a good decision, in my opinion, for the Hay River DEA to take. A number of the DEAs across the Territories, I understand from discussing this with the Minister of Education , have similar policies. I'm not sure if all do. We would urge all of the DEAs to undertake such a policy. I think it's a good recommendation. I know that if you're going to be an employee for the Department of Education, you must undergo a criminal records check. That has not always been the case, obviously, for volunteers, as we're finding.

But I would urge municipalities, DEAs, anybody going to be having volunteers work for them to ask their volunteers to submit to a criminal records check, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my final question to the Minister is would the Minister consider, again in a proactive vein on the part of this government, to ensure that something like this does not happen again? Communications that go out to businesses for various other reasons, assessments for workers' compensation, something, somewhere in there that business owners, employers could be notified that there is an avenue for them to contact the RCMP and have criminal records checks done on people they potentially intend to hire.

Could this government, in light of what's happened, take a proactive position and send, broadcast in some way, communication about employers' ability to do this? Thank you.

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Brendan Bell

Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, I can, certainly. I mean I think it's a good policy for businesses to know who they are hiring and I can talk to the RCMP about a way that this might be accommodated. I think it would be a good policy for businesses to ensure that the employees who come to them have come with a criminal records check that demonstrated they're not a risk. Of course, we can't force everybody to do that, Mr. Speaker. I think there is another issue here, though, that we can't ignore and that's the discussion that's going on nationally.

I know at our FPT meetings recently there's been a lot of discussion around remand and how people who are remanded to custody get credit for time served, end up out on the street very quickly. I think there is an interest right across the country, across all stripes, that we look at ensuring that we keep those dangerous offenders in jail, Mr. Speaker, and if they are a risk to the communities that they are not out amongst us, Mr. Speaker. It's important, I think, that high-risk offenders have to prove that they not be a risk to our communities as opposed to have the system prove that they will be a risk, Mr.

Speaker. I think the onus should be on the high-risk offenders. That's a philosophical change that I think we, as a country, need to make. Thank you.

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Question 430-15(5): Social Supports For The Homeless

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Bill Braden

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions this morning are for Mr. Bell , Minister for Homelessness in the Northwest Territories. The GNWT is a major sponsor or contributor to many of the support services provided by the NGOs. I talked about a number of them in my statement earlier today, Mr. Speaker, but we recognize that a lot of these measures, not only here in Yellowknife but in other parts of the Northwest Territories, are not well integrated and we have put -- as an Assembly we realize this -- our reliance in developing the income security framework reforms. We've seen a lot of talk.

There's been a lot of consultation, a lot of paper moving in a lot of circles in the last couple of years; certainly in the last few months, Mr. Speaker. But we seem to be lagging on moving this very vital program forward. I'm getting questions and concerns from some of the NGOs about just where this program is.

Mr. Speaker, I wanted to ask the Minister, are we going to see the delivery of an income security framework during the life of this Assembly that will address the dire situation of the homeless in the NWT?

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Joe Handley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think this is one that should be referred to the Minister responsible for income support programs. Mr. Speaker, since he's out of the House, I will take it upon myself to respond by saying that the Minister has committed to making available the document that the Member is referring to. I can't say whether it will be during the life of this Assembly, but it will certainly be done during the life of this government. Thank you.

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Bill Braden

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to continue on with my homelessness theme and if I may continue to direct my questions to Mr. Bell . Young people, Mr. Speaker, are facing significant challenges in getting started in their lives with housing. They have family issues, income issues, education issues. It often leads to young people leaving home without any options. Will this policy, or will the efforts that the Minister for Homelessness is undertaking, address the specific needs of young people trying to get started, Mr. Speaker?

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Joe Handley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a question that can be referred to the Minister for Homelessness. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Brendan Bell

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think it's a very good question. I appreciate the work of Members opposite in urging that we come together as departments with a comprehensive response to a number of these issues. I think the continued support for Members in this respect has been very helpful. As I mentioned several days ago when the budget announcement was made, it was a good day for the fight against homelessness, Mr. Speaker, and that's because for the first time we've got some core funding to deal with homelessness issues and deal with the homelessness framework.

In the past years I'd admit that it's been on an ad hoc basis, sort of patchwork as issues came up we would respond. Now for the first time we've got some core funding going forward. Youth shelters is an issue we need to address. The response for single men and shelters, we are responding in Bailey House. But, Mr. Speaker, there

continues to be gaps. We'll address them as we move forward. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Bell . Final supplementary, Mr. Braden .

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Bill Braden

Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, recognizing that simply providing shelter or a roof for the families, people affected because they're homeless is certainly something we should be endeavouring to do, but it is not a solution, and that is where our reliance is, Mr. Speaker, in this policy and this framework. Especially, Mr. Speaker, as I addressed in my statement, the migration to bigger communities, the in-migration to Yellowknife indicates that the kinds of supports and services, medical, education, otherwise, are not available in the smaller communities. Mr. Speaker, will this policy be addressing the chronic shortage of these services in smaller communities?

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Brendan Bell

Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, there are a number of departments that have various initiatives related to addressing the pressures that we're seeing in this area of homelessness. I agree with the Member. If we talk about the Bailey House model, as an example, it will not be just a shelter, but will provide for programming. I know Justice intends to tap into that. We have many offenders who, upon release, are homeless, look to find employment, they're working with ECE, there are health related issues.

This cuts across a number of departments, but I agree with the Member's point that it has to be a comprehensive, collaborative government-wide response and working with our NGO stakeholders and partners who provide critical work in this area. So we will continue to do that. The Member will see that that theme runs through the framework and I believe runs through the income security work that Mr. Dent is coming forward with. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Bell . Oral questions. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe , Mr. Villeneuve .

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Question 431-15(5): Property Assessment Services In Small Communities

Item 6: Oral Questions

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Robert Villeneuve

Tu Nedhe

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I just have some questions for the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs with respect to the New Deal again that's going to be coming out. I just want to ask the Minister, with the recent developments in the property assessment responsibilities that the City of Yellowknife wants to give back to the GNWT, how is that going to affect the New Deal for the NWT communities that the government is looking at passing down the assessment responsibilities to? How is that going to change any funding allocations? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Villeneuve . The honourable Minister responsible for Municipal and Community Affairs , Mr. McLeod.

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The discussion with the City of Yellowknife about conducting assessment services is something that has been embarked on recently. There's been some concern. We are obligated as a department, as a government, to ensure that these assessments are done. If there's a desire from the City of Yellowknife that the department assume these services again, we will more than likely take it upon ourselves to do it. We don't think it will have any bearing on the other communities as part of the New Deal initiative. Thank you.

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