Wildlife — 24 February 1997 (13th Assembly, 4th Session, pp. 803–847)
1997-02-24, 13th Assembly 4th Session, pp. 803–847
Northwest Territories — Debates (Hansard)
Debates of Feb. 24th, 1997
This is page numbers 803 - 847 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.
The word of the day was chairman .
Topics
Members Present
Item 1: Prayer
Community Empowerment Successes
Minister Absent From House
Broughton Island Youth Committee
Condolences And Appreciation
Affirmative Action Policy
Iqaluit Airport Ers Services
Ers Training And Equipment Upgrade
Affirmative Action Policy
Portable Mammography Screening Units
Co-operative Tourism Efforts With The Yukon
Breast Cancer Screening Information
Sale Of Vacant Staff Housing Units
Ministers' Of Fisheries Meetings
Wcb/ntpc Division Plans
Affirmative Action Policy Statistics
Post-transfer Community Liability
GNWT Inuit Employment Plans
Responsibility For Privatization Initiatives
Percentage Of Aboriginal Employees
Office Space For Community Employees
Written Question 20-13(4): Iqaluit Airport Revenues
Item 10: Petitions
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents
Bill 10: Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 1996-97
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
To Defer Consideration Of Main Estimates For Rwed
Recommendation To Prepare Interpreter/translator Services Plan
Recommendation For Additional Funding To Adult Education In September 1997
Recommendation For Withdrawal Of Layoff Notices To Interpreters/translators
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 8: Returns To Written Questions
Item 22: Orders Of The Day
Members Present
Honourable Jim Antoine , Honourable Goo Arlooktoo , Mr. Barnabas , Honourable Charles Dent , Mr. Enuaraq , Mr. Erasmus , Mr. Evaloarjuk , Honourable Samuel Gargan , Mrs. Groenewegen , Mr. Henry , Honourable Stephen Kakfwi , Mr. Krutko , Mr. Miltenberger , Honourable Don Morin , Honourable Kelvin Ng , Mr. Ningark , Mr. O'Brien , Mr. Ootes , Mr. Picco , Mr. Rabesca , Mr. Roland , Mr. Steen , Honourable Manitok Thompson , Honourable John Todd .
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Oh, God, may your spirit and guidance be in us as we work for the benefit of all our people, for peace and justice in our land and for constant recognition of the dignity and aspirations of those whom we serve. Amen.
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Item 1: Prayer
Item 1: Prayer
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . Good morning. Orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers' Statements. Mrs. Thompson .
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Minister's Statement 59-13(4): Community Empowerment Successes
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
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Manitok Thompson
Aivilik
Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wish to share with Members some of our more recent empowerment successes. In Mr. Krutko 's riding of Mackenzie Delta, the Aklavik Aboriginal Committee has taken on the transfer of the government liaison function. With the assistance of a seconded government staff member, the Aklavik Aboriginal Committee is developing plans for further community control of programs.
Tulita, Norman Wells, Deline and the K'asho Got'ine Council in Fort Good Hope are four of the 15 communities which have taken on responsibility for the economic development function. As illustrated by the many economic development transfers, the Minister of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development , the Honourable Stephen Kakfwi , continues to be a strong supporter of increased community control over community decision-making.
In the Keewatin, all seven hamlets are working towards taking on ownership and responsibility for airport operations on April 1, 1997. This will be the first complete transfer of a program to all community governments within one region and will enable these community governments to share the costs for common specialized services. My colleague, the Honourable Jim Antoine and staff from the Department of Transportation, are working closely with Keewatin municipalities to conclude the transfer agreements.
As well, a number of Keewatin communities have expressed interest in the transfer of Public Works and Services and Housing Corporation functions. Completion of these transfers would see the integration of ownership, maintenance and management functions under the community government.
Under the direction of the Honourable Goo Arlooktoo , the consolidation of maintenance functions, through some 54 program transfers at the community level, are progressing well with the combined support of staff from Public Works and Services and the NWT Housing Corporation.
Mr. Speaker, these are only a few of the community empowerment successes. Many more communities are pursuing community empowerment opportunities. Soon I will share with Members a more detailed progress report on the community empowerment transfers completed to date. In the end, Mr. Speaker, we are giving communities what they have been asking for. We are giving responsibility of programs, services and infrastructure at the community level to communities, so they have community control to make decisions and manage their own affairs.
I look at these opportunities as a positive challenge for us all. While we work together to find solutions to outstanding empowerment issues, we must continue to work in partnership with communities to ensure community empowerment is successful. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Minister's Statement 59-13(4): Community Empowerment Successes
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Ministers' statements. Mr. Morin .
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Minister's Statement 60-13(4): Minister Absent From House
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 803
Don Morin
Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wish to advise Members that the Honourable Jim Antoine will be late arriving into the House today as he is attending the official opening of the Fort Liard Community Hall. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Minister's Statement 60-13(4): Minister Absent From House
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you, Mr. Morin . Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Enuaraq .
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Broughton Island Youth Committee
Item 3: Members' Statements
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Tommy Enuaraq
Baffin Central
Thank you, Mr. Speaker and good morning to my colleagues. I have every reason to smile this morning. I have my tooth back. Mr. Speaker, many times in this House we talk about youth. Unfortunately, we are often speaking about the problems that face them, things like alcohol and drug abuse, teen suicide, peer pressure and lack of jobs. It is easy to focus on youth with problems. I would like to remind everyone there are a lot of good, young people out there doing good things in their communities. In Broughton Island, there is a group of young people who are making a difference. They are the Youth Committee. They do many positive things
together, promoting healthy and productive life choices. They give each other support to make the right choices in their lives.
Mr. Speaker, last October, they travelled here to Yellowknife to meet with me and have new experiences. This winter they continue doing good things in the community. For example, they organized hunting trips. The food from these trips was then shared with elders and other people in the community. Mr. Speaker, with young people like those on the Youth Committee in Broughton Island, I know the future of Nunavut will be good in hands. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Broughton Island Youth Committee
Item 3: Members' Statements
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Krutko .
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Condolences And Appreciation
Item 3: Members' Statements
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David Krutko
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. At this time, I would like to send my condolences to the Arthur Francis family of Fort McPherson, to the Larocque family of Yellowknife and also my colleague from Hay River on the loss of her dad. At this time, I would also like to thank the many people of the Northwest Territories and the rest of Canada who supported my family and I during a difficult time, learning a week ago that my mother was hospitalized with cancer. I would also like to let them know that the family is presently in the process of bringing my mother back home to be with her people, her family and mostly with her grandchildren. Thank you.
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Condolences And Appreciation
Item 3: Members' Statements
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you, Mr. Krutko . Members' statements. Mr. Henry .
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Affirmative Action Policy
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 804
Seamus Henry
Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there has been a lot of discussion about affirmative action in the GNWT hiring practices during the life of this Assembly. We are awaiting the results of the affirmative action review carried out by the government in 1995. I think we are wasting our time and energies on this policy. Despite efforts over the past 11 years, we are not much further ahead than we were in 1985, the year the Native Employment Policy was put into effect. About 30 percent of GNWT staff, at that time, were aboriginal. The latest figure, at 36 percent, shows very little improvement. Certainly nowhere close to the government's 50 percent goal.
Mr. Speaker, I believe we all want a public service that is competent and, if possible, reflective of the population it serves. The first goal of a hiring policy should be competency because the taxpayers deserve the best value for their money. Industry succeeds when it hires the brightest and best people. We should expect no less from our government. In a perfect world, our public service would be both competent and representative of the population it serves. Unfortunately, Mr. Speaker, we do not live in a perfect world.
Why has the affirmative action policy not worked? I believe it has not worked, nor will it ever work, as long as 60 percent in our target group have less than the grade 10 education required for entry level to most government jobs. Even now, aboriginal people are over-represented in government among those who have Grade 10 education required for government jobs.
Mr. Speaker, the only way we can increase aboriginal employment beyond the current 36 percent, and maintain competency within the public service, is to increase education levels among aboriginal people. This is not going to happen overnight. Let us be realistic. I believe the affirmative action policy is doing little to help aboriginal people meet the government's minimum hiring requirements.
The problem is not that the hiring system works against aboriginal people, but rather the government, and previous ones, has assumed that aboriginal people, who have successfully worked off the land for generations, are motivated to take government jobs and assumed they will be instantly successful in making the transition to an office, administrative environment. These jobs require different skills and many aboriginal people are still gaining the skills necessary to be successful in the office environment.
Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.
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Affirmative Action Policy
Item 3: Members' Statements
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
The Member for Yellowknife South is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Do we have any nays? Mr. Henry , you have unanimous consent.
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Affirmative Action Policy
Item 3: Members' Statements
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Seamus Henry
Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker and thank you, Members. These jobs require different skills and many aboriginal people are still gaining these skills necessary to be successful in the office environment. Instead of trying to set goals that lead to frustration and a perception of failure, let us celebrate the advances aboriginal people have made. Let us encourage them to get an education and acquire the skills necessary to be successful in government jobs and in that environment. Policies such as affirmative action cheapen the value of jobs earned on merit. Jobs earned on merit provide a sense of pride and independence.
Mr. Speaker, the Affirmative Action Policy puts aboriginal people down. It tells them they are not good enough to compete without government protection. This is totally wrong. Mr. Speaker, I believe we should scrap the Affirmative Action Policy. As northern people become more educated, they will be ready and able to compete for the jobs available. We will have a workforce representative of the general population as people gain more skills. The Affirmative Action Policy has proven it will not help us get there faster.
This government, nor any other, can have on its books a policy that is as divisive and destructive as the Affirmative Action Policy has been and still is. It will continue to divide northerners as long as it remains in place. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Affirmative Action Policy
Item 3: Members' Statements
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Picco .
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Iqaluit Airport Ers Services
Item 3: Members' Statements
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Edward Picco
Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to begin by giving an overview of the evaluation of ERS services at Iqaluit Airport. Mr. Speaker, I have continually sought commitments from this government that, at the very least, this government commit to providing proper training to
the volunteer fire department in Iqaluit, to fight and respond to airport incidents and the fire department be provided with the proper equipment for these responses. Our study concludes the findings of the Avery Cooper report which may not be entirely accurate or complete for the following reasons.
Reaction of Airline Users:
The reality is air carriers may indeed have a problem with the removal of the current style of ERS, depending upon the nature and operability of alternate fire/safety arrangements made available in the future.
Airline representatives indicate that a significant change in the status of ERS services are worrisome because they will likely be a lessening in quality or speed of response -- amounting to an effective reduction in safety. Definitive statements from airline management on the evolving safety situation at Iqaluit, however, will be contingent upon complete knowledge of the specifics of alternative arrangements that might be made to cover the ERS function.
Reaction of the Military:
The military, on the other hand, consider Category 5 ERS protection available at Iqaluit as their current preferred minimum threshold for CF-18 training purposes. At FOL locations where this is not provided on an ongoing basis, they have had three options in the past: Fly in their own Category 5 foam-truck-tanker and crews prior to exercises, such as in Rankin Inlet, work with a former armed forces-owned pre-positioned truck on a co-operative basis with the local civilian airport authority, like they are doing in Inuvik, or make the decision to operate without fire ERS protection. That is only within the authority of the Winnipeg Command structure.
Later today, Mr. Speaker, I will be tabling the report from the consultant that I hired out of my constituency budget to overview and review the Avery Cooper report. I will also be asking questions to the appropriate Ministers in this House, including Mr. Todd and some of his colleagues, on providing the safety training and also the equipment. My point, Mr. Speaker, is that there is no way you can expect the department to react to instances at the airport if they do not have the proper equipment or the training. They cannot fight a fire with a water bottle. You need a foam truck at the airport.
I think this is an area of safety and concern and this government has to look at it and it is necessary. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Iqaluit Airport Ers Services
Item 3: Members' Statements
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you, Mr. Picco . Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Kakfwi . Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Picco .
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Question 375-13(4): Ers Training And Equipment Upgrade
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Edward Picco
Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this is not for my honourable colleague, the communist colleague over there who speaks Russian, Mr. Todd , as I just read in the Hansard. It is for the other good Minister we have over there. Mr. Speaker, can the Minister, Ms. Thompson , responsible for EMO, inform this House if there are monies available to help assist, train and provide equipment upgrades for the Iqaluit Volunteer Fire Department, so they can respond to emergencies at the Iqaluit airport when the ERS is phased out on the 31st of March, 1997? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Question 375-13(4): Ers Training And Equipment Upgrade
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Minister responsible for Municipal and Community Affairs , Ms. Thompson .
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Question 375-13(4): Ers Training And Equipment Upgrade
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Manitok Thompson
Aivilik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In June of 1994, a three year training program was approved along with funding for the first year of 1995-96, so there is a program for training fire fighters at the community level. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Picco .
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Supplementary To Question 375-13(4): Ers Training And Equipment Upgrade
Question 375-13(4): Ers Training And Equipment Upgrade
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Edward Picco
Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I realize there is training for the local fire fighters but that is stick fire fighting, which is houses, wooden structures, so on. In this case, the training I am asking for is specific, specialized training to be delivered for the airport fire fighters who have to respond to crashes and burns of airplanes, which is a separate and different type of fire than at the residential level. Can the Minister inform me if that type of training is available?
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Question 375-13(4): Ers Training And Equipment Upgrade
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Ms. Thompson .
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Question 375-13(4): Ers Training And Equipment Upgrade
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Manitok Thompson
Aivilik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I understand what the Member is saying. We will assess the department's fire fighting training and we will deal with the problems in Iqaluit within the department and see how we can help them. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Picco .
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Supplementary To Question 375-13(4): Ers Training And Equipment Upgrade
Question 375-13(4): Ers Training And Equipment Upgrade
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Edward Picco
Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That is indeed good news. After asking x number of Ministers for some help, I am glad to see we have a Minister who is willing to step in this type of an emergency situation. My follow-up question to the Minister, the training is one aspect of the fire fighting services at the airport. The second aspect is the equipment. As I said earlier, you cannot expect them to fight a fire with a water bottle. At the present time the fire equipment in Iqaluit is dedicated for the structures I talked about earlier, residential, commercial buildings, not for planes.
Can the Minister tell me if there is money available to help us upgrade the equipment at the airport, so we can actually fight airport fires in that type of eventuality? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Ms. Thompson .
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Item 6: Oral Questions
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Manitok Thompson
Aivilik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I must be a woman taking this responsibility very seriously.
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Manitok Thompson
Aivilik
We will do an assessment on the program with the department and I will get back to the Member. I will take that as the best thing.
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Samuel Gargan
The question was taken as notice. Oral questions. Mr. Ootes .
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Question 376-13(4): Affirmative Action Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Jake Ootes
Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Premier . Mr. Henry spoke this morning about his concerns about the affirmative action policy. I wonder if the Premier could tell us whether the affirmative action policy was originally framed by the Department of Justice and that it ensured the legality of legislation within the framework of the Canadian Human Rights Act.
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Samuel Gargan
Mr. Premier .
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Item 6: Oral Questions
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Don Morin
Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When a policy is developed by this government, the Department of Justice does play a role in the development of that policy to give legal advice. In my understanding, the affirmative action policy is a workable policy that would stand up in a court of law. Thank you.
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Samuel Gargan
Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Ootes .
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Could the Minister restate? Does it meet and is it consistent with the Canadian Human Rights Act?
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Don Morin
Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We think it is and the law does provide that when you have different peoples living in a certain jurisdiction and if they are under-represented in the workforce, it allows you to develop policies to make sure they are represented in the workforce. Thank you.
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Jake Ootes
Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When the policy is framed and as it is referred to now, traditionally statistics have been used stating it is at 36 percent employment of aboriginal people. Could the Premier tell me if that is true in all sectors of the territorial government, or is it a higher percentage in certain sectors of the territorial government than others?
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Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thirty-six percent represents all of the government. It is 36 percent throughout. It does not specifically apply to certain sectors. Thank you.
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Jake Ootes
Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Is it not true that in the territorial government, 71 percent of aboriginal representation is available in the labour and related jobs and that the GNWT also has in the social workers and wildlife officers the representation level at program delivery at 52 percent?
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not have that information at my fingertips as the Member does. I will take it as notice.
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Edward Picco
Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Health . Mr. Speaker, it is my understanding the only mammography unit located in the Northwest Territories is here in Yellowknife. My question is, is that correct? Mr. Speaker.
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Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, the honourable Member is correct. Thank you.
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Edward Picco
Iqaluit
Mr. Speaker, the advantage of early mammograms is that it can detect cancer before there is a lump. Has the Department of Health looked at locating and purchasing available portable screening units to be made available at the regional centres, so these tests or screens can be done closer to home? I think everyone realizes the embarrassment of having to do these tests, especially away from home. My question is to the Minister, is the department looking at purchasing the available portable screening units and locating them in the regional centres so mammographs can be done closer to home? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Kelvin Ng
Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it has been considered, but as I have indicated in the past the capital requests do come from the boards and we support them if the priority and need is there. To date there has not been any specific requests for those portable mammography units. I would like to say it is an important part of breast cancer screening, but it is just as important to recognize annual clinic examinations and self-examinations are also an important part of possible early detection of breast cancer, Mr. Speaker.
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Edward Picco
Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have been doing a little bit of research into this area and I understand the advantage to the mammograph is that it can detect cancer before it is felt by touch, which is very important. My follow-up question to the Minister is; if he is telling me we do not have the portable units in the communities in the regional centres, it is because the health boards for those regions have not requested said equipment. Is that correct? Is that what he is saying? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Kelvin Ng
Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, that is part of the reason. I believe what is also important to recognize is that the other health boards have not placed such a high priority on this type of equipment, whether there have been other capital requirements and capital needs they have put a higher priority on than portable mammography units, Mr. Speaker.
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Question 378-13(4): Co-operative Tourism Efforts With The Yukon
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Floyd Roland
Inuvik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question will be directed to the Minister responsible for tourism, Mr. Kakfwi . I would like to know if this government has any agreement with the Yukon government when it comes to any tourism initiatives. Thank you.
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Stephen Kakfwi
Sahtu
Mr. Speaker, I am not aware of any particular agreement offhand. I would have to take the question as notice. Thank you.
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Question 379-13(4): Breast Cancer Screening Information
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Jake Ootes
Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just a follow up on Mr. Picco 's questions regarding mammograph machines, I wonder if the Minister could tell me if he has responded to my comments from last year and during the committee review of the budget requesting him to look into the matter of providing information to the communities in aboriginal languages on breast cancer problems?
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Kelvin Ng
Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, although I have not had a chance to speak to my staff yet on the specifics of it, I have asked for an update on what information is available on breast cancer screening. Thank you.
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Jake Ootes
Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wonder if the Minister could reassure me he will have the department provide information and literature throughout the Northwest Territories in the next half year on breast cancer problems? Thank you.
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Kelvin Ng
Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yes we can provide or make sure the information is available out in the communities, if it is not already. Thank you.
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Jake Ootes
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Minister also ensure it is provided in the aboriginal languages? Thank you.
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Kelvin Ng
Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I cannot commit to that at this time because of the fact that I do not know what is out there and how much additional costs it would entail to provide it in all aboriginal languages. I can make the commitment that we will make sure people who are unilingual will have access through personnel in the communities to the information whether it is through the community health representatives or other health care officials working in the communities. Thank you.
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Floyd Roland
Inuvik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question will be directed to the Minister of Finance . A while back we discussed in this House, the issue of staff housing and the sale of it in regards to having vacant units and empty units in small communities that needed some housing for the people who were not employees of this government. The Minister said he would look at taking those vacant units and transferring them over to the housing authorities. I am wondering if there is a timeline on the sale of staff housing and these units, because it seems everything is hinged on the sale of these units. Is there a timeline that this will happen or the transfer will happen? Thank you.
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe earlier, reading through my budget review, I did commit to Mr. Steen for Nunakput that we would bring everybody up-to-date in the late May/June session. I think this whole issue about how far are we there, what is happening, et cetera, I think the issue Mr. Roland speaks to is an important one. There is a problem in that, where is the cut-off, when do you move on? I am fairly optimistic given that the sale of staff housing units is moving very quickly.
I would be hesitant today to put a date to it, but I would recognize at some point there has to be a cut-off, and we can then move towards transferring those houses that are vacant, that are no longer required, over to my colleague, Mr. Arlooktoo , so he can then move forward and, in some small way, try to alleviate this severe housing shortage in some of our communities. So, sooner rather than later, I guess would be my only accurate reply to it. We are optimistic that by the end of fiscal year, which is the end of March, most of our housing sales program will be concluded.
Certainly, if I commit today that we will bring you up-to-date in the late May/June session, that would be an appropriate timeline. We can move forward to transferring those houses, et cetera. Discussions are under way at the present time between myself, Mr. Arlooktoo and the staff, to accommodate that very important, budgetary initiative. Thank you.
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Floyd Roland
Inuvik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to question the Minister of Finance , Mr. Todd . He is talking about some very general areas here, maybe at the end of March, he might start looking at some initiatives and hopefully have something in May. I would like to know if they are already looking at areas where there is no movement in the housing area. If they are not moving, can they move ahead on the initiative to transfer housing over? Thank you.
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My honourable colleague made an interesting point. I think it is very important for me to say clearly and without any jest, this is a serious issue. It was a serious initiative on the part of Cabinet and the budget that we want to work quickly, because there is an enormous housing shortage out there. Now it is also important to clarify this is an initiative that will make a small dent in a very large problem, as my colleague has said publicly about his new initiatives in the Housing Corporation's Housing 2000 Plan.
This is just part and parcel of trying to find a way in which to get some interim relief for a difficult housing shortage. It is recognized by all of us that we need to move quickly and I am not trying to avoid being definitive as to when we can do it. Sooner rather than later would be the only way I would be able to qualify it, because I am still waiting to see the results of the second phase of the staff housing. Again, if I can repeat it, we are optimistic most of that will be concluded by the end of March. Mr.
Arlooktoo advised me when I was sitting down, that there are discussions under way right now, trying to identify potential houses that will be vacant and no longer required that we could then transfer. It is not like nothing is happening. Discussions are under way. I think we will be able to move fairly quickly, certainly by May/June. Thank you.
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Question 381-13(4): Ministers' Of Fisheries Meetings
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Edward Picco
Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I think the Premier of the Northwest Territories, Mr. Morin , was in Ottawa this past week meeting with some Fisheries people. Maybe I could ask a question on his meeting with Fisheries, or maybe to the Minister of RWED . My question is for the Minister of RWED or the Premier , whoever wants to answer it, concerning, in my riding, the allocation of fishing licences and quotas in the areas adjacent to Baffin Island. They are being prosecuted by the Inuit of Baffin and the Kekertaluk Corporation.
Can the Minister inform this House as to the status of these allocations and if his department or if the Premier , in his discussions, have been monitoring it and can give us an update? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Samuel Gargan
The Premier . Two questions.
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Don Morin
Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will take the initial question on this issue since I just got back from the Atlantic Council of Fisheries Ministers meeting, which was a very interesting meeting. We, as a government, have not been tracking the quotas in the Atlantic fishery for some time now and it has been a concern to us that these quotas do not reflect the true Atlantic fishery. Approximately 36 percent of the Atlantic fishery is adjacent to Baffin Island and is in the Nunavut settlement area. I believe, on the ground fish, we have approximately 11 percent of the quota and for shrimp, it was nine percent.
We raised that issue with the Atlantic Council of Fisheries Ministers and we raised it quite aggressively. We want to see a better quota allocated to the Baffin region and we want our fair share of that allocation.
We, as northerners, have no problem sharing a resource with some southern fishermen, but it should better reflect what is actually adjacent to our fishing area. The fishery in the Davis Inlet right now represents approximately $3.5 million to the Baffin economy, so we have to make sure we try to increase that. We have general support from other Ministers on the adjacency issue. As well, we made it very clear to the federal Minister that his government has to live up to the claim they have signed with the Nunavut people. The federal Minister has the final decision on quotas in that area.
We voiced very strongly that we do not want to see an increase in quota without the proper, scientific knowledge to back up that increase, because we do not want to see that fishery go like other fisheries in southern Canada have gone, over-harvested and then everybody loses.
We seem to have an agreement that they will look at the scientific information they have and, if they increase, we seem to have support that they will take a serious look at the Inuit residents getting those licences. We did have general support from New Brunswick, Newfoundland, as well as the other Atlantic provinces on our issues. So, all in all, the meeting went fairly well and I came out of that meeting feeling as if we did accomplish something and they know the Northwest Territories is part of that Atlantic fishery.
We have also invited them up to the Baffin for their next meeting, so hopefully we can accommodate that as well. In the end, the federal Minister will make the decision. Thank you.
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Edward Picco
Iqaluit
Thank you. Mr. Speaker. It must have been a fairly good meeting and I am glad to see that the Ministers may indeed come to the Baffin and hold another meeting. My follow-up question to the Minister, will this government be following up on his initial meeting this past weekend to direct this government to actually sit down with the federal Minister of Fisheries, Mr. Mifflin, and to lobby on behalf of our fishermen?
And also invite other major stakeholders, like Kekertaluk Corporation, to the meeting so the stakeholders themselves can be involved in the front-line, so they understand what is happening to the allocations and the situation regarding the quotas. So, my question would be to the Premier or the Minister of RWED , is he looking at a follow-up meeting, specifically with the federal Minister of Fisheries, Mr. Mifflin, on the adjacency and also on the awarding of quotas. Last year, we missed the boat on this.
This year, we would like to see an increase in our quotas and look at some of the straggling stocks which are located in the B1 and the area adjacent to the Davis Strait and also the area south of Resolution Island.
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Don Morin
Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The department will be following up with the department people in Ottawa. We were not planning on an immediate follow-up meeting with the Minister of Fisheries for the federal government. We stated our case very strongly, we made our points. They fully understand that we have to be involved. He has agreed to consult and he has consulted, to a certain extent. We feel quite comfortable that we put the case across quite strongly and they will pay attention. As far as follow-up, the staff will do the follow-up.
We represent the Northwest Territories at the table and I did not see any provincial governments bring in fishermen or fishing companies to the table. It is between government and government. Thank you.
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Edward Picco
Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Premier earlier said the Fisheries Ministers will be coming to the Baffin. Can the Minister tell this House when that meeting will be taking place and where in the Baffin are they going to have that meeting?
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Don Morin
Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Normally, for any Ministers' meeting, there is a revolving of where it happens. For example, this time it happened in New Brunswick. Next time it may happen in Newfoundland or Prince Edward Island, but it does revolve. What we made very clear is that we are part of Atlantic Fisheries, to put us into the loop so the Northwest Territories can host a meeting as well. We invited them to the Northwest Territories. We invited them, I believe it was to Pangnirtung, to come up and have a Ministers' of Fisheries meeting of the Atlantic provinces in the Pang area. Our staff will work on that so it will happen some time in the future but when, I do not know. Thank you.
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Question 382-13(4): Wcb/ntpc Division Plans
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Seamus Henry
Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as Members of this House, we have had briefings from the Power Corporation and WCB regarding what both of the organizations will look like after division. The briefing of the
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Samuel Gargan
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think it is important to point out the WCB is funded by private sector contributions and not through the government grant system. My understanding is they are putting together a division plan. I think the intent certainly is, as is for the Power Corporation, to make sure these things are self-financing. I would believe that would be the approach the WCB would be taking. I know they are recommending, and I believe what the NIC and others have recommended, it stay as one at this time for what they call the cost-related factors and the fact that you have some economies of scale.
I think it would be fair to say that is the intent, although whether I could confirm today that will in fact happen, it would be difficult. But certainly that is the intent. Thank you.
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Seamus Henry
Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Minister stated what the intent of the organizations are. I appreciate that. As additional information does come available, I would like assurances from the Minister that both organizations, east and west, will get a look at the information for a final decision, before an irreversible decision takes place on the Power Corporation and WCB, but WCB in particular stay together as one organization. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Let me answer this way, we have developed attitude reports with respect to the assets and liabilities as it relates to division. We are in the throes of concluding our third report. In these reports, we have talked about the strategy and the initiative that have to be taken, both with the WCB and with the Power Corporation. I think it would be fair to say there will be significant debate in this house and in committee before any final decision is made on what strategy we take in respect to both these large assets and liabilities out there. Thank you.
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Jake Ootes
Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is again for the Premier regarding the affirmative action policy. Statistics can be presented in many ways, Mr. Speaker. They can be bent any which way and interpreted any way we wish. The Premier previously stated we have 36 percent aboriginal employment. What has not been taken into account, and I wonder if he could confirm, and he said it himself previously in this House, we should also consider long-term northerners as part of this policy. Could the Premier confirm the 36 percent does not take into account long -term northerners?
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Don Morin
Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The affirmative action policy covers aboriginal people as well as the long-term northerners, people who are born and raised or lived over half their lives in the Northwest Territories. The 36 percent entails all of those people. Thank you.
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Jake Ootes
Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to correct the Premier , it is 36 percent aboriginal and 8 percent long-term northern, according to my research I have done. That makes it 44 percent. The territorial government is representative for 44 percent in my opinion. The question I have is, if I am correct, would the Premier agree with me there has been a degree of success in this policy?
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Don Morin
Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Once again, I do not have the numbers the Member has in front of him. I do not have that information at my hands, my fingertips. In order to answer his question, I would have to get that information. Thank you.
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Jake Ootes
Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I stated earlier the government has, as a result of this particular program, 71 percent aboriginal representation level in the GNWT labour force and labour related jobs. Would the Premier tell me if I am correct? Does he consider that a success?
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Don Morin
Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Once again, I do not have the numbers the Member is referring to. I do not know if he is correct or not. Thank you.
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Jake Ootes
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If the territorial government has in the wildlife officers and social workers, in the program delivery staff, 52 percent aboriginal employment, could the Premier tell me if he would consider that a success?
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Kevin O'Brien
Kivallivik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is to the Minister of MACA , in follow up to her Minister's statement this morning. I have raised the issue of the concern regarding the liability factor as it relates to community transfers. Could the Minister advise the House if there have been any new developments regarding this issue? Thank you.
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Manitok Thompson
Aivilik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The department staff is still discussing the liability issue and talking with other partners. As soon as we get information on it, I will get back to the House. Thank you.
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Kevin O'Brien
Kivallivik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I note in the Minister's statement the transfer is still moving ahead. I applaud the Minister and her department for that. I think the liability factor is a major concern and I would ask when could we expect to get an answer on this critical issue? Thank you.
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Ms. Thompson .
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Manitok Thompson
Aivilik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When we do transfers with the communities, we discuss with the community all the concerns that are raised by the community. This is one of the issues that is discussed with the community. We only do transfers if the community is comfortable with the talks and also with the transfer of anything that goes under their authority. I will be getting back to the Member and to this House about the liability issue. I know the department has concerns about that, but the transfers have been done with the communities. This issue has not really come up yet. We are looking into it on their behalf.
With all our transfers, we talk with the communities and we are very open with them. This is one issue that has not really been brought up to surface yet. Thank you,
Mr. Speaker.
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Question 385-13(4): GNWT Inuit Employment Plans
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Levi Barnabas
High Arctic
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question will be directed to the Minister responsible for division, Mr. Todd . During the recent Nunavut Leader Summit in Cambridge Bay, we had an opportunity to discuss GNWT's immediate employment plans. I understand these plans were completed in summer of 1996. I would like to know what the government departments are doing to carry out these plans. Thank you.
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Samuel Gargan
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My honourable colleague is correct. We did allude to that in Cambridge Bay. The fact of the matter is this government now has Inuit employment plans in each and every one of its departments. Each department is now accountable for its plan. Each Member and deputy minister is accountable to ensure there is a greater participation by aboriginal people in the civil service. The ultimate accountability will rely on this House, I suspect the Ministers and their deputy minister associate actions. Thank you.
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Levi Barnabas
High Arctic
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I understand each department is currently developing plans for division. Can the Minister explain how these Inuit employment plans work with the department division plans? Thank you.
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This government recognizes its obligation to work towards
increasing aboriginal involvement in the civil service, both in this government that is still in place until April 1, 1999, and to set plans and motions in place to meet the requirement under the Nunavut agreement. Hence the reason for the departments developing on an individual basis, Inuit employment plans. There is an integration of what each department is doing and what we are doing with respect to division. There is, I think, a much more accountable system in place that holds the political leaders accountable, that holds senior civil service accountable, and it is not firmly in place.
I am confident, as I said earlier last week, we will be able to increase our aboriginal content in this civil service significantly over the next two years.
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Levi Barnabas
High Arctic
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Can the Minister explain the linkage between these plans and the unified Human Resource Training Strategy for Nunavut? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. In a conversation with my colleague, Mr. Dent , there is a co-ordination and a collation between the unified employment strategy, a requirement for affirmative action aboriginal, Inuit, northern hiring strategy. It is all linked to division, etc. As I said to an earlier question, I am confident the fact that we have now put the responsibility and the onus on the politicians and ultimately this House, there will be a significant increase on the recruitment side and employment side of aboriginal people. Thank you.
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Question 386-13(4): Responsibility For Privatization Initiatives
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Edward Picco
Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister for privatization. In regard to new privatizations scheme, can the Minister for privatization, I do not know which one it is for today, it depends on which policy we are following, I will ask the question and we will just throw it out. Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of privatization, on the new privatization initiatives of this government, if there are any. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Samuel Gargan
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Stephen Kakfwi
Sahtu
Mr. Speaker, I am the lead Minister for privatization initiatives as the Premier has indicated over the last couple of weeks. Specific initiatives that fall under the prerogative of individual Ministers are the responsibility of those particular Ministers. I am responsible for co-ordinating initiatives on a government-wide basis. Thank you.
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Edward Picco
Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, can the Minister for privatization that is co-ordinating privatization with the other Ministers, inform this House and yours truly, what privatization is he in the middle of co-ordinating right now? What areas? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Stephen Kakfwi
Sahtu
Mr. Speaker, I can only be general in my response. The Legislature is aware because the Premier has answered questions over the last couple of weeks as to exactly what the initiatives are. He has given status reports on each initiative. My role is to ensure there is some consistency and co-ordination of initiatives across the government. For instance, certain initiatives fall under the Minister of Finance , others fall under the Minister for Public Works, and so on. My responsibility is to monitor these initiatives and make sure there is co-ordination where that is required. Thank you.
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Edward Picco
Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So, now we are getting to the crux of this privatization. The Minister has just said he is co-ordinating the privatization this and this, and he is looking for consistency. Can the Minister tell me what policy or direction he is following when he is evaluating the privatization initiatives of this government for consistency and for this co-ordination? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Stephen Kakfwi
Sahtu
Mr. Speaker, there is a Cabinet direction given on privatization. We have informed the Legislature, Members of this House on the specific initiatives we wish to undertake. Generally those are being done to look at the cost efficiency, to see where it is possible for the private sector and our communities to do the same job that would benefit the private sector and the government in terms of efficiency, in terms of getting a better return on the dollar. That is a better phrase to use by the way, Mr. Henry . Where there is support for the initiative from the Legislature and we will be following generally those types of considerations in pursuing initiatives. Thank you.
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Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Oral questions. Final supplementary, Mr. Picco .
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Edward Picco
Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we are not following a policy of the government as such, but we are following a direction from Cabinet, a Cabinet direction is what the Minister said, a policy direction from Cabinet is what he said. My question is, is this policy direction from Cabinet of privatization available in writing and is it available for the Members of this House and for the people of the Northwest Territories to have a look at? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Stephen Kakfwi
Sahtu
Mr. Speaker, the Member refers to Cabinet motions and directions that I do not believe are available to the public or Members of the Legislature. However, the policies of the government are in fact available. I understand there is a privatization policy still in the books from the era of the Commissioner. Commissioner Parker initiated such a policy back in 1988 or so that is still used as a general basis for privatization initiatives. Thank you.
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Jake Ootes
Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Premier on affirmative action. I wonder if the Premier could tell me when the figure of 34 percent is presented, how is that related? Is that related to the general population?
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Mr. Premier .
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Don Morin
Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. No, it is not related to the overall population. It would be related to the amount of employees in government. It would be a certain percentage of employees in government. Thank you.
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Jake Ootes
Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thought it was related to the amount of the availability of the labour force in the NWT, Mr. Speaker. In that regard, I wonder if the Premier could tell me if the availability of the labour force is representative of certain sectors. If 34 percent and according to my previous statements, there has been success in certain other areas, if he believes that and once he has that researched out, could the Premier tell me and perhaps confirm with me, does he consider all sectors, every aspect of the territorial government, every department should have 50 percent aboriginal employment in every department, in every division, in every sector? Thank you.
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