Budget, Adoption Act, Legislative Assembly And Executive Council Act, Public Service Act — 22 February 2002 (14th Assembly, 5th Session, pp. 89–119)

2002-02-22, 14th Assembly 5th Session, pp. 89–119

Northwest Territories — Debates (Hansard)

Budget, Adoption Act, Legislative Assembly And Executive Council Act, Public Service Act — 22 February 2002 (14th Assembly, 5th Session, pp. 89–119)

2002-02-22, 14th Assembly 5th Session, pp. 89–119

Northwest Territories — Debates (Hansard)

Debates of Feb. 22nd, 2002

This is page numbers 89 - 119 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was chairman .

Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

Adoption Act And Family Law Act

Increased Funding For Day Care Programs

Somba Ke Healing Lodge

GNWT Position On The Kyoto Protocol

Inland Lake Fisheries

Attendance At The Scott Tournament Of Hearts

Submissions To The Commission On Health Care In Canada

Equitable Distribution Of Transportation Infrastructure Funding

Transportation And Storage Of Ammonium Nitrate

Inuvik Recipients Of The Governor General's Medal Of Bravery

Need For A Federal-nwt Economic Development Agreement

Mackenzie Delta Good Time Dance

Recognition Of Legislative Assembly Pages

Promoting Northern Manufacturing

Transport And Storage Of Ammonium Nitrate

Kyoto Protocol On Climate Change

Meeting Access Road Needs

Non-renewable Resource Development Funding

Consultation On Adoption Act Amendments

Commitment To Affordable Housing

Somba Ke Healing Facility

Highway Trip Permit Fee

Monitoring Inland Fisheries

Fort Mcpherson Fire Truck

Personnel Policies For Excluded Employees (ruled Out Of Order)

Tabled Document 2-14(5): Letter To Premier Regarding Personnel Policies For Excluded Employees

Setting Of Sitting Hours By Speaker

Bill 5:

An Act To Amend The Adoption Act And Family Law Act

Bill 4:

An Act To Amend The Legislative Assembly And Executive Council Act

Bill 1: Human Rights Act

Bill 3:

An Act To Amend The Public Service Act

Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Health Authority Administration Costs (carried)

Item 21: Report Of The Committee Of The Whole

Item 23: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Honourable Roger Allen , Honourable Jim Antoine , Mr. Bell , Mr. Braden , Mr. Delorey , Mr. Dent , Mrs. Groenewegen , Honourable Joe Handley , Mr. Krutko , Mr. Lafferty , Mr. McLeod , Mr. Miltenberger , Mr. Nitah , Honourable Jake Ootes , Mr. Roland , Honourable Vince Steen , Honourable Tony Whitford .

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

Page 89

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Roland . Good morning, colleagues. Item 2, Ministers' statements. The honourable Minister responsible for Health and Social Services , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Minister's Statement 7-14(5): Adoption Act And Family Law Act

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 89

Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Later today I will be giving notice of motion for first reading of a bill to amend the Adoption Act and the Family Law Act. These amendments reflect the requirements for equality under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

Human rights legislation across Canada, including our own proposed NWT Human Rights Act, list sexual orientation as a prohibited ground of discrimination. As well, various courts across the country, including the Supreme Court of Canada, have ruled that legislation that discriminates on the basis of sexual orientation violates the Charter and has been found to be unconstitutional.

As a result, courts and Legislatures have been granting many of the same rights and responsibilities under the law to same-sex couples that are enjoyed by opposite sex common-law couples. This includes such areas as the right to spousal support, the right to equal division of property and the right to adopt.

Mr. Speaker, in the Northwest Territories, individuals involved in same-sex common-law relationships do not, in most cases, currently have the same legislated rights and responsibilities as do individuals in opposite sex common-law relationships. In order to ensure that our legislation complies with equality provisions under the Charter, and to avoid any costly legal challenges, we will be addressing this concern in two phases.

In phase one we will be introducing a bill to amend the Adoption Act and the Family Law Act. These amendments will change the definition of spouse to include, in addition to married couples, those who have lived in a conjugal relationship for two years. The definition will be gender neutral. As a consequence of these amendments, nine other acts that use the definition of spouse found in the Family Law Act would also be affected.

These amendments will ensure that those individuals living in a same-sex relationship will have the same rights and obligations under this legislation that are currently provided to those living in a common-law relationship. Specifically under the Family Law Act and the Adoption Act, they would be able to seek spousal support, division of property, restraining orders and be allowed to adopt.

Phase two of this project involves a review and amendment of all the remaining 35 pieces of legislation that use spouse or an equivalent.

Mr. Speaker, developments in Canadian law over the past ten years have resulted in the extension to unmarried couples many of the same rights and obligations that have been enjoyed by married couples. In addition, the courts have ruled that discrimination on the grounds of sexual orientation is unconstitutional. These two developments have meant that laws that treat unmarried couples differently based on their sexual orientation have been found unconstitutional.

By amending our NWT legislation to provide equal treatment under the law for individuals involved in same-sex relationships as for individuals in common-law relationships, we are simply bringing our legislation in line with the development of the law across the rest of Canada. This process will in no way impact on the institution of marriage in the Northwest Territories. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 7-14(5): Adoption Act And Family Law Act

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 89

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . Item 2, Ministers' statements. The honourable Minister responsible for Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Ootes .

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Minister's Statement 8-14(5): Increased Funding For Day Care Programs

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 89

Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As outlined by the Minister of Finance two days ago in the Budget Address, this government plans on investing an additional $1 million in the area of day care during the upcoming fiscal year.

Mr. Speaker, the NWT's economy is vibrant and generating new jobs. This activity translates into increased opportunities for northern residents. While part of this government's role is to create an environment for investment and growth, we must also take steps that allow our residents every opportunity to benefit from this prosperity. The goal, aptly articulated in Towards A Better Tomorrow, is one of the principles behind the decision to invest additional funds in this area.

Our plan, Mr. Speaker, is to invest new money in two critical areas. First we plan to increase the daily contribution we make to licensed day care programs. As an example, if the base rate for an infant space is $9.00 per child, we plan to increase it to $14.40 per child. As you can see, Mr. Speaker, this is a full 60 percent increase.

The second area, Mr. Speaker, where we will make a substantial increase is in the area of day care subsidies for low-income parents. Our present system does not cover parents who need day care services during the summer months, or parents who work shift work. If we are going to assist these Northerners in taking advantage of the opportunities before them, we must improve their access to day care services. It is our hope that this increased investment will do just that.

Early childhood is a priority for this government, Mr. Speaker. Investments in early childhood will help to realize our goal of a healthy, self-reliant territory as envisioned in Towards A Better Tomorrow. This investment will give NWT families greater access to affordable quality childcare and a greater opportunity to realize their own career dreams while making a productive contribution to society. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

-- Applause

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Minister's Statement 8-14(5): Increased Funding For Day Care Programs

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 90

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Great Slave , Mr. Braden .

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Somba Ke Healing Lodge

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 90

Bill Braden

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Over the course of this Assembly and in the past, all Members have spoken at one time or another about the cost and devastation to the people of the North who have suffered through alcohol and drug addictions. The evidence is in our homes and schools and jails from fetal alcohol effect. We see the trauma from sexual abuse and molestation in residential schools. Spousal assault and victims of family violence are ever-present. It is not a pretty picture. In this respect, Mr. Speaker, we do not have a healthy society.

To capitalize on and benefit from the economic opportunities facing us, we have to make some significant process in dealing with the effects of these situations in our society.

Yesterday my colleague, Mr. Lafferty , the Member for North Slave , spoke passionately about the need for treatment and prevention facilities here in the North. Members of the Beaufort-Delta communities have on numerous occasions spoken about the lack of support in this area as evidenced by the closure of the Tl'oondih Healing Facility.

Mr. Speaker, just off the Detah road sits a substantive 28-bed facility built in 1991 with financing from the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation. It is an ideal place for healing and self-reflection.

In 2000, Mr. Speaker, the Somba Ke Healing Lodge was founded as a non-profit organization. The ironic situation seems that while the facility has survived, it has survived just barely with help from a number of organizations, but the GNWT Department of Health and Social Services and others should be there as well.

Corrections Services Canada, the federal agency, sends inmates from southern Canada. The Aboriginal Healing Foundation has provided substantial support. When I was there last week, I even encountered a group of Japanese tourists who were using the facilities.

Mr. Speaker, the current status of Somba Ke may be described as uncertain and troubled. Some of its healing programs are delivered to inmates from Corrections Canada and those programs are well regarded. There is a need for additional program definition and development.

Yesterday the Minister of Health and Social Services tabled his action plan for health and social services. Mr. Speaker, the Somba Ke healing centre can be part of the solution for improving quality services. I urge the Minister to positively consider what role the Somba Ke healing centre can play in his action plan in this region. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

-- Applause

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Somba Ke Healing Lodge

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 90

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Braden . Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Krutko .

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GNWT Position On The Kyoto Protocol

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 90

David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as we all know, climates are changing and nowhere more than the Northwest Territories and the Arctic. Mr. Speaker, we have to have a position to deal with global warming. Our Minister will be attending a conference next week in British Columbia.

Mr. Speaker, I do not think we really understand what this government's position is on the Kyoto agreement, global warming and what we are doing to take on the challenge of the effects of global warming in the Northwest Territories.

We have seen the effects in the weather, the effect it has had on our transportation system, our winter roads and also the environment of the Northwest Territories. Mr. Speaker, I think as a government, we have to know what our position is. For the Members on this side, we would like to know -- do we actually have a position from the Government of the Northwest Territories regarding the Kyoto agreement and global warming?

We, the people in the North, are going to be greatly affected to a point that whatever happens in other parts of the world will have a major effect on the North, the people of the North, the animals and the environment. Mr. Speaker, it has been some time since we as a government have stood up to the rest of the world to say enough is enough. We have seen the effects. We are the ones being affected most greatly, yet we continue to hear the countries of the world, such as the United States, one of the highest producers and users of energy and they have the greatest effect on global warming.

As a government and as Canadians we have to set the examples. At the appropriate time, Mr. Speaker, I will be asking the Minister of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development to really see, do we have a position on this matter and what stand is he going to take when he attends this conference next week in British Columbia.

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GNWT Position On The Kyoto Protocol

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 90

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Krutko . Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe , Mr. Nitah .

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Inland Lake Fisheries

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 90

Steven Nitah

Tu Nedhe

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my statement this morning is dealing with fisheries, specifically inland lakes. Our elders are starting to recognize efficiencies in fisheries that come from smaller, inland lakes.

In the past, Mr. Speaker, when we had a trapping society before the arrival of the snowmobiles, dog teams were utilized to a great extent. Families would have anywhere between 14 and 20 dogs that needed to be fed. People used the inland lakes for fish products quite a bit.

Now that we do not have the dogs to be fed, we are starting to see fish that are overpopulating these lakes and reducing the food limit. Through global warming, the level of ice and snow is affecting the water tables and naturally occurring mercury may be a factor here as well.

I want to know what the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development is doing to monitor fish in the inland lakes near our communities. If they are monitoring, what have they discovered and what will they do about what they discovered? I will have questions for the appropriate Minister during question period. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Inland Lake Fisheries

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 91

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Mahsi, Mr. Nitah . Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Hay River North , Mr. Delorey .

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Attendance At The Scott Tournament Of Hearts

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 91

Paul Delorey

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this morning I would like to take a couple of minutes to talk about a topic that is very near and dear to my heart and that is sports. Mr. Speaker, a number of my colleagues and myself have been anxious to get to the TV sets these days to watch the Olympics and the goings on there. We have been entertained by some very exciting games in different sports.

I know that I want to congratulate the ladies team last night for coming out on top of the U.S. team in ladies hockey.

-- Applause

After going into that game, having lost eight consecutive times to the U.S., I am sure there was a lot of pressure on these girls. I guess we have been witness to quite a number of negative happenings when you mix politics and sports. We have seen that in a number of sports in the Olympics in the last couple of weeks.

I think that far too often, Mr. Speaker, we put too much importance on medals and the colour of medals being presented. I know that a number of athletes have been to the Olympics and different sporting events and have put in personal bests and have not come away with medals.

I think that we should be putting more emphasis on our athletes who do personal bests when they are in competition against other athletes and not worry about what colour medals they are getting.

I want to congratulate all Canadians who have taken

part in the Olympics and who have represented Canada to the very best of their abilities. I also want to congratulate all the athletes across the North who have qualified to compete in the Arctic Winter Games. I know it is very important, having been involved in the games before, that the athletes receive support from families, from friends and also from government representatives.

I will not be personally going to the games this year, but I do hope that some of my colleagues will have the opportunity to attend and give our athletes some support and encouragement.

Mr. Speaker, next week, starting on Saturday, there is a team from the Northwest Territories that is going to be representing the Northwest Territories and the Yukon at the Scott Tournament of Hearts in Brandon, Manitoba. Mr. Speaker, this team consists of Monique Gagnier of Hay River, Kelly Kaylo of Yellowknife, Cheryl Burlington of Yellowknife, Sharon Cormier of Yellowknife...

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Attendance At The Scott Tournament Of Hearts

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 91

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Mr. Delorey , the time for your Member's statement is over. Mr. Delorey .

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Attendance At The Scott Tournament Of Hearts

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 91

Paul Delorey

Hay River North

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

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Attendance At The Scott Tournament Of Hearts

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 91

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Delorey . The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Are there any nays? There are no nays. You may conclude.

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Attendance At The Scott Tournament Of Hearts

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 91

Paul Delorey

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, colleagues. Also, Kerri Cooley makes up the fifth player on this team. Mr. Speaker, it gives me great pleasure to inform the House that I as well am going to be part of this team. I have been coaching this team off and on this winter. I have also been coaching my daughter, Monique Gagnier, for probably the last 18 years or so.

-- Applause

It gives me great pleasure to be able to go to Manitoba and represent the NWT and Yukon as part of this team. I also want to take this opportunity, Mr. Speaker, to advise my constituents back in Hay River that I will be absent from the House from Monday, February 25th to March 1st so that I can coach this team in Manitoba. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

-- Applause

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Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 91

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Delorey . Our good wishes go along with the team. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Yellowknife South , Mr. Bell .

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Submissions To The Commission On Health Care In Canada

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 91

Brendan Bell

Yellowknife South

The commission recognizes that providing practical and realistic recommendations will be an enormous task. To achieve this, the commission is analyzing submissions from health care providers, stakeholder groups and concerned Canadians who offer their views on challenges and opportunities facing public health care in Canada.

Mr. Speaker, this spring the commission will be visiting the Northwest Territories to hear from Northerners. I have every expectation that our government will be making a formal presentation highlighting our challenges. I also hope that the Standing Committee on Social Programs will be invited to contribute its views to the submission.

Mr. Speaker, we should urge all citizens of the Northwest Territories concerned with protecting our health care system to get involved and be heard. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Submissions To The Commission On Health Care In Canada

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 92

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Bell . Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for North Slave , Mr. Lafferty .

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Equitable Distribution Of Transportation Infrastructure Funding

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 92

Leon Lafferty

North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My statement today is on the Budget Address, in the area of transportation, Mr. Speaker. I have a concern on how the funds will be allocated in the Northwest Territories. Mr. Speaker, too many times we have seen roads to campgrounds, like the Ingraham Trail, getting priority over the highways that have a safety need.

I see in the Budget Address an initiative for roads and infrastructure, a $33 million highway investment is proposed in this budget for 2002-2003. That includes $2.5 million for access roads. As I understand it, this money is to be spread evenly for all the regions. However, the needs of my region are more pressing.

I have driven every highway in the Northwest Territories as my committee travelled in the last year-and-a-half. Mr. Speaker, Highway No. 3 is in the worst condition compared to other highways. Add to that bad weather conditions, which can make the road difficult to drive.

I believe we need a new highway strategy. The way the funding is to be distributed, some will have it for a comfortable ride to cook their wieners and marshmallows while others are not getting it for safety. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Equitable Distribution Of Transportation Infrastructure Funding

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 92

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Deh Cho , Mr. McLeod .

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Transportation And Storage Of Ammonium Nitrate

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 92

Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to bring attention to the transportation and storage of ammonium nitrate in and through the community of Enterprise.

Mr. Speaker, this issue has been raised in the House before by Keelen Simpson, who was representing Hay River South during the Youth Parliament. She certainly demonstrated the importance that this issue has to all ages to the people in the North.

Ammonium nitrate is normally used as a chemical blasting agent, but it is also used as fertilizer. By itself, it is not dangerous but it can be detonated under high heat, confinement or severe shock. For example, if ammonium nitrate is mixed with diesel fuel and ignited, this can result in an explosion.

Mr. Speaker, any time there are dangerous goods being transported or stored within a community, the community council should be notified well in advance -- no exceptions. At the very least, the local fire department should be notified.

How dangerous is ammonium nitrate? It was a key

part in a bomb used to destroy the federal government building in Oklahoma City in 1995, killing 168 people and wounding hundreds of others. How much ammonium nitrate was used? Less than two-and-a-half tons. Many times this amount is being transported on just one truck. These trucks, Mr. Speaker, frequently travel through or stop in the communities in my riding.

I have discussed this issue with the government on many occasions. However, they always explain that under our Dangerous Goods Act, it is not required to consult with the community, as the government does not consider ammonium nitrate to be a dangerous good.

Mr. Speaker, we all know that the highway patrol officers are charged to monitor dangerous goods that are being transported on the highway system. However, we have to ask ourselves who is monitoring the storage and the handling of these chemicals when they are in our communities without our knowledge and without our permission?

Mr. Speaker, given the potential dangers of ammonium nitrate, I find the government's position on this matter very distressing. Clearly when proper procedures are not established to adequately notify communities, we have a disaster in the making. We must take action now. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

-- Applause

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Transportation And Storage Of Ammonium Nitrate

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 92

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. McLeod . Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake , Mr. Roland .

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Inuvik Recipients Of The Governor General's Medal Of Bravery

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 92

Floyd Roland

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to speak on the issue of bravery. Mr. Speaker, I have been informed that 29 recipients will be receiving the medal of bravery this year and in fact, two of those individuals come from my constituency of Inuvik.

Mr. Speaker, the late Mr. Ernest Gordon, or as we have known him in our community as Ernie Gordon, and Mr. Brian McDonald, who still lives in Inuvik, will be receiving the medal of bravery. Mr. Speaker, this centres around the actions that took place on August 6, 2000. Mr. Brian McDonald attempted to rescue Mr. Ernest Gordon, who lost his life trying to save a ten-year old girl from drowning in Campbell Creek near Inuvik, Northwest Territories.

Mr. Gordon was picnicking with his family when his daughter's friend was caught in a strong current. Although he could not swim, Mr. Gordon managed to reach the child and grab hold of her, but he too was carried away by the rushing waters. He was struggling to keep himself and the little girl afloat when Mr. McDonald arrived at the scene. Alerted by the cries for help and realizing the gravity of the situation, Mr. McDonald battled the current until he reached the victims some 12 metres out. Unable to haul them both in, he took the child from Mr.

Gordon and encouraged him to continue treading water until arrival of another swimmer, who was on his way with a flotation device. Although exhausted, Mr. McDonald was able to return to shore with the little girl, but sadly, Mr. Gordon lost his struggle and drowned moments before help arrived. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Inuvik Recipients Of The Governor General's Medal Of Bravery

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 93

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Roland . Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Need For A Federal-nwt Economic Development Agreement

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 93

Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in the winter edition of the oil and gas review, the Premier summarized what we have known all along about the role of the federal government in the economic development of the North. He indicated that the federal government does not seem to take an active interest in developing the resources that they have up here, and if they have, he indicates that he has missed it.

There are many ways for Northerners to benefit from economic development. These include requirements for agreements for training, employment and the use of northern supplier services and manufacturers.

The most recent evaluation made by this government of that agreement was completed in May, 1990. A lot of things have changed since then, Mr. Speaker. We now have increased oil and gas development, the closure of the gold and zinc mines and the establishment of a growing diamond industry. The former federal Industry Minister, Mr. Tobin, on his last trip here to Yellowknife was boasting that the NWT has the fastest growing economy in the country. This growth is in areas that will require services in fields that are either emerging or changing, and Northerners need access to financial resources if they are truly going to derive the benefit from northern development.

Unfortunately, Mr. Speaker, one of the big beneficiaries of our economic activity, the federal government themselves, do not seem to want to come to the table. I know we have attempted, through our Non-Renewable Resource Development Strategy, to engage the federal government in our desire to benefit from our resources. Other jurisdictions in Canada have enjoyed the success of the benefits of economic development agreements with the federal government. Why is the North being ignored on this front? I believe this is completely unacceptable.

Later today, I will be asking the government what the status is of an NWT-Canada economic development agreement. I want to know what the government has done lately in this matter and I want to see some tangible action on this front. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes , Mr. Allen .

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Mackenzie Delta Good Time Dance

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 93

Roger Allen

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning all. I would like to take this opportunity to invite all the Members of this Legislative Assembly and family members to the third Mackenzie Delta Good Time Dance to be held tonight between 7:00 p.m. and 2:00 a.m., and also another one tomorrow night at the same time.

Mr. Speaker, it is customary for the people of the Mackenzie Delta to celebrate through dancing on special occasions. In this instance, the reason for celebrating is the gathering of all our Members here in the Assembly, where we continue to work in the best interests of all the people of the Northwest Territories. Finally, Mr. Speaker, the Mackenzie Delta Good Time Band will be providing fiddle music. We invite all members of Yellowknife and those citizens who are visiting the city to come and join us at the Con Mine rec hall for two nights of square dancing, jigging, reels and a number of waltzes. Hopefully we will see you there. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Page 93

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Allen . Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Weledeh , Mr. Handley .

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Recognition Of Legislative Assembly Pages

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 93

Joe Handley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like today to acknowledge the support and assistance that has been provided to us over the past week by our pages. In particular, I want to recognize two young people from my constituency who have been working with us this week. These are Eric Crapeau and Curtis Beaulieu, both from Detah. They are grade seven students, very active in sports and very strong academic students. I think they are good examples of the quality of many of our small community schools. I encourage all of these young people to continue on with their education. They may go on to professions. Who knows, maybe some day they will have a different role in this Chamber. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Handley . Item 3, Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the Gallery. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife South , Mr. Bell .

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Question 44-14(5): Promoting Northern Manufacturing

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 93

Brendan Bell

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question today is for the Minister of RWED . In going through the budget the other day, notable in its absence was any mention of manufacturing. Mr. Speaker, we all know that diversity in our economy is critical, so I am wondering if the Minister can tell me what he is doing to promote the manufacturing industry. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 93

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Bell . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Mr. Antoine .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 93

Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this department and the ministry has been doing some work, and the Northwest Territories Business Advisory Panel has recommended some mechanisms for expanding the Northwest Territories value-added processing and manufacturing. They are preparing some recommendations to me as Minister and the department is putting together these recommendations for us to consider. There is work being done to assess how manufacturing has been going on in the North, and an analysis has been done of what we should do through the NWT Business Advisory Panel.

We will be coming forward with some recommendations to look at how we can improve the manufacturing aspect in the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 94

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. Bell .

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Question 44-14(5): Promoting Northern Manufacturing

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 94

Brendan Bell

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am glad to hear that that work is going on. I was getting concerned. It seemed like a review and overhaul of the BIP has been underway for some time. That may not speak specifically to manufacturing, but it is nice to hear that work is underway. Can the Minister indicate when he will have this report back from the Business Advisory Panel? Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 94

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Bell . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Mr. Antoine .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 94

Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in talking to the department and trying to assess the timing on this, we need to try to get this done as soon as possible. The work has been going on for some time now. I would like to advise the Member that we would like to have a strategy document submitted to us by the advisory panel prior to the end of this fiscal year. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 94

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. Bell . No further supplementary? Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Deh Cho , Mr. McLeod .

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Question 45-14(5): Transport And Storage Of Ammonium Nitrate

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 94

Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask some questions regarding the issue of ammonium nitrate transportation and storage in the communities. It is difficult to identify the appropriate Minister. When this product is on the highway system, it is an issue affecting the Department of Transportation under their regulations. When it is stored in the community, it falls under MACA. When there is a spill, then it falls under the jurisdiction of RWED. I will ask my question to the Deputy Premier , who is also the Minister of RWED .

Under the Dangerous Goods Act, the government is not required to notify communities prior to storage or transportation of ammonium nitrate in our communities. I would like to ask the Minister when the government will establish a procedure to adequately notify communities when dangerous goods, including ammonium nitrate, are being transported or stored in our communities? I would like to ask him when can we expect to see some policy regarding that?

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 94

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. McLeod . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Mr. Antoine .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 94

Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am going to refer the question to the Minister of Transportation . Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 94

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you. The honourable Minister is using his Deputy Premier 's authority to transfer that question to the Minister responsible for Transportation , Mr. Handley .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 94

Joe Handley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will certainly answer on the transportation of dangerous goods. The storage, as you know, is one that does not fall particularly within Transportation's jurisdiction, but more with RWED.

On the transportation of dangerous goods, there are different categories. Ammonium nitrate is classed as a dangerous good. All the trucks that are carrying it are properly flagged so they can be identified as carrying a dangerous good. Ammonium nitrate is not as dangerous as some people think it is when it is stored, or even when it comes in contact with some diesel fuel.

However, in order to assure residents who have concerns, I will take it upon my department to ensure that we let communities know when we are transporting it and also when we are moving it on the rail or trucks. We will, as a courtesy to those people and in recognition of their concerns, let the community leaders know when we are moving these products. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 94

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. McLeod .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 94

Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you. I am not sure if my supplementary questions can be directed to the Minister of Transportation . However, I will ask him anyway. When these chemicals are being transported and stored in our communities, when they are unloaded into our parking lots and empty storage grounds, I want to know, who are the officials out there monitoring and ensuring that they are properly stored, that they are fenced in, locked up and all of these other procedures that have to be followed?

I realize on the highway system there are highway toll officers. Who is out there in our communities monitoring this? Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 94

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. McLeod . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Transportation, Mr. Handley .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 94

Joe Handley

Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, the Member is correct. When they are transported or stored on a truck, on a flatbed, then they are the responsibility of Transportation. When they are stored in a yard, then the responsibility of ensuring that they are properly stored and secured rests with the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, which is responsible for environmental protection.

Now because of the concern with these goods, our department is working very closely with the other departments involved to ensure that any concerns the communities have will be alleviated in the future and ensure that these things are properly transported and properly stored. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 95

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. McLeod .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 95

Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you. Given that answer, I would like to ask for some clarity on whether the Minister plans to meet with the communities and go through the response procedures and emergency measures?

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 95

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. McLeod . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Transportation, Mr. Handley .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 95

Joe Handley

Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, I would be pleased to meet with the representatives of the communities along the route where these goods travel to explain to them how the Transportation of Dangerous Goods Act works. I certainly want to talk to my colleague, the Minister of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development , to either have him or his officials come along as well to deal with storage and transportation at the same time. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 95

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Final supplementary, Mr. McLeod .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 95

Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this issue is difficult, as indicated earlier, because it affects several different departments that have different degrees of responsibility when it comes to dangerous goods. I would like to know if this government could look at streamlining this whole handling of dangerous goods and storage in the communities. I do not believe this is the best way to handle this whole issue by having different responsibilities in different areas.

Would this government look at a one-stop shop kind of process, so that communities can go and have their questions answered, know the regulations and know who is policing? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 95

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. McLeod . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Transportation, Mr. Handley .

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Page 95

Joe Handley

Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, yes, we will look at that. It may be difficult to try to amalgamate the transportation of dangerous goods legislation and the storage of dangerous goods legislation and provisions. I am sure that between the two departments, we will be able to come up with a good common language explanation on how this works and have that in place for the next trucking season. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 95

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Krutko .

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Question 46-14(5): Kyoto Protocol On Climate Change

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 95

David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development . It is regarding this government's position on the Kyoto agreement and what has happened with global warming.

There is a meeting that is going to take place next week with the federal, provincial and territorial Ministers on the environment. The issue they will be discussing is the area of global warming.

I would like to ask the Minister, does this government have a position regarding the Kyoto agreement and global warming?

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 95

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Krutko . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Mr. Antoine .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 95

Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this climate change is a big issue for us in the North. Our elders are telling us that they are seeing a lot of changes, and certainly to the whole development of the climate change issue throughout the world, we have been following it and have been very supportive of the Kyoto Protocol.

Our position as a government is that we support global and local action to reduce emissions of greenhouse gases. That is the position of this government. Global action includes the Kyoto Protocol as well. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 95

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. Krutko .

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Question 46-14(5): Kyoto Protocol On Climate Change

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 95

David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, one of the ways that industrial nations are trying to get around the Kyoto agreement is using things which are known as carbon sinks, and they say, "Well, we can generate pollution but we also have carbon sinks. We have this much forest, this much vegetation, and because of that it generates oxygen." That is what the argument is. Does this government have a position on carbon sinks?

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Page 95

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Krutko . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Mr. Antoine .

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you. We have natural forests in the Northwest Territories, so we do not have that kind of a problem with the whole debate on carbon sinks, meaning that there are problems in the south, in southern Canada, in the States, where there are no trees. It is just agricultural land. What the concern there is and what they want to do is they want to plant forests. We do not need to do that. We already have forests, so we do not have that problem up here. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. Krutko .

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you. Mr. Speaker, the whole idea of carbon sinks is for those nations to continue doing what they are doing right now, which is to continue to pollute the atmosphere and do nothing to react to global warming. I think this government should have a position about carbon sinks because that is the cause of global warming. We cannot find loopholes in the environment. The environment in the North is sensitive as it is, and for them to come up with the idea of carbon sinks is probably going to have a greater effect, or there will be less action taken on global warming.

Does the Minister have a position on those jurisdictions who want to use that as the basis for their argument, such as Alberta?

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Thank you, Mr. Krutko . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Mr. Antoine .

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we agree that the countries that do not have forests and want to deal with the global warming issue by creating forests to deal with the carbon dioxide emissions, that is the purpose of carbon sinks, to do that.

There are also problems in the agricultural area where they are depleting the carbon in the soil through agricultural use. That is a very complicated area for us. We up here in the North, we are a very small player in this whole issue. However, we are very concerned about it because whatever happens globally regarding the warming of the atmosphere has a big effect on us up here in the Northwest Territories.

Our position is that we would be supporting and encouraging our federal government to go ahead and work towards the ratification of the Kyoto Accord. I understand that in developing our positions, the federal government will be listening to views of people in Canada, including the northern stakeholders and residents. The federal government will do a consultation process up here. From that, the federal government will be developing a position.

At this point in time we are encouraging and supporting the initiative of the federal government to go ahead and move ahead with the commitment they have made to sign the Kyoto Protocol eventually. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Minister. Final supplementary, Mr. Krutko .

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the Minister, can this government table our position on the Kyoto agreement and the position on global warming in this House?

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Thank you, Mr. Krutko . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Mr. Antoine .

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we could do that. I would like to go to this meeting in B.C. this weekend and listen to the joint Ministers of energy and the environment. This Kyoto Accord would be the topic of discussions. I understand that our federal counterparts are having a lot of concern about the cost of implementing protocol in their jurisdictions because of industry costs and so forth. It would be interesting to find out what is going on at that level. Certainly we have come out with a position. We have the NWT Greenhouse Strategy that we are developing. That deals with support for issues and global warming initiatives such as the Kyoto Protocol. Thank you.

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Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for North Slave , Mr. Lafferty .

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Question 47-14(5): Meeting Access Road Needs

Item 6: Oral Questions

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Leon Lafferty

North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Honourable Joe Handley , the Minister for Transportation . My question is how is the Minister going to distribute funds for upgrades to access roads when there is only $2.5 million and there are needs greater than that? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Transportation, Mr. Handley .

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Joe Handley

Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, clearly the $2.5 million that is in the budget for the 2002-2003 year was not enough money to improve all of the public highway access roads to a standard that everybody would want. We have a number of these roads. The allocation has not been finalized in terms of how we would allocate the $2.5 million this year. I intend to meet with each of the representatives here who have public highway access roads in need of repair to work with them on the allocation of that money. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. Lafferty .

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Leon Lafferty

North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The next question would be to ask the Minister if he is willing to take some money from the highway investment and put it into some of the access roads, if the needs are there. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Transportation, Mr. Handley .

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Joe Handley

Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, in principle, yes, I would be willing to move money from one project to another, if the need is greater. I have made a commitment to the Members that before we do that, we would consult with all of the Members who would be impacted by any kind of movement of money like that. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. Lafferty .

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Leon Lafferty

North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am glad for that answer. I would like to ask the Minister, does this mean the highway strategy that was being followed previously would not be used for future infrastructure? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Transportation, Mr. Handley .

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Joe Handley

Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, at this point, I intend to continue to use the highway strategy that has been developed earlier. Even within that strategy, there has been occasion where it is needed to move money from one project to another.

We have changed our fiscal projections in terms of money for highways considerably when we decided not to proceed at this point with the trip permit fee. So how we implement that strategy will certainly be different than was contemplated a couple of months ago. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Minister. Final supplementary, Mr. Lafferty .

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Leon Lafferty

North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Under the highway strategy, 50 percent of the budget of Transportation was going towards the Ingraham Trail. I would like to ask the Minister if that is still going to be the case. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Transportation, Mr. Handley .

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Joe Handley

Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, I do not believe that 50 percent -- maybe the Member said 15 percent, I am not sure which. Fifteen is probably closer, but in terms of dollar amounts toward improving Highway No. 4 or Ingraham Trail, as it is commonly called, the amount that is going on that road is a fairly small portion of the total allocation for roads this year. In comparison, on Highway No. 3, for example, we are spending over $10 million this coming year on improvements to Highway No. 3. We intend to continue with Highway No. 3 as being a priority. That is a highway with heavy traffic and it continues to be our priority now as it was in the highway strategy. Thank you.

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Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Question 48-14(5): Non-renewable Resource Development Funding

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 97

Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in my Member's statement, I talked about the importance of an economic development agreement for the Northwest Territories. Not so long ago, this government expended a tremendous amount of time, energy and resources into developing a Non-Renewable Resource Development Strategy that covered quite a range of different initiatives and issues, and I believe was actually encouraged to do so by the federal government.

Out of the $200 million plus that we indicated to the federal government that we needed in order to access opportunities for our people, I would like to know how much we have received to date. Thank you.

I am not sure, Mr. Speaker, who has the lead on the Non-Renewable Resource Development Strategy right now. Thank you.

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Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Mr. Antoine .

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the question was on the economic development agreement that we have not had since 1996. This government had developed a Non-Renewable Resource Development Strategy that asked for about $250 million from the feds. Yes, we have that strategy. We have been promoting it and raising it with the federal government. To date, I guess it is safe to say that we have received some money for winter road bridges, about $3.8 million. Thank you.

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That is not a very large amount of money. I know that in some of the areas, our government has stepped into that gap, Maximizing Northern Employment, looking for training opportunities, transportation infrastructure. What additionally would this government be prepared to do to address the void created by not having an economic development agreement where people could access financial resources to develop businesses to service the non-renewable resource sector? Thank you.

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Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Mr. Antoine .

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as the Minister of Finance indicated in his budget speech a couple of days ago, there is a need to enhance funding and financial resources to businesses in the Northwest Territories, so we have put new monies into different areas within our budget this year to try to help the businesses. That is our way of doing it. We put money into the business development area. We put money into an NWT Development Corporation. That is our way of doing it. As you all know, we have limited resources to do that. When we have surpluses available, we put into those areas to help for this coming year.

In the meantime, we have not given up on the Non-Renewable Resource Development Strategy. As Ministers, whenever we have the opportunities to meet with our federal counterparts, we raise this issue. As you know, our Premier is travelling on Team Canada at this point and he has access to the Prime Minister. Part of the opportunities that arise during this trip, the Premier is going to raise a lot of issues, one of them being continuing to push this Non-Renewable Resource Development Strategy that we have as the strategy for this government. Thank you.

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as the Minister indicates, this government does not have the adequate resources to meet this need in a way that a Northwest Territories-federal economic development agreement could.

He has referred to the Premier 's attendance on a trade mission where he may have the ear of the Prime Minister, but we need to be kept apprised of the tangible actions of this government to address this void.

I agree we do not have adequate resources within this government to do that and that is why we have to keep this on the radar screen of the federal government. What are their plans? What has been done? What other future plans are in the works to secure this agreement for the Northwest Territories again? Thank you.

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Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Mr. Antoine .

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there is a lot of concern out there by private businesses and aboriginal organizations. There is a northern coalition of business and aboriginal leaders that has been formed. They are planning to go to Ottawa and lobby on their own behalf and for the people of the North as well.

We are supporting them. We are going to be going up there March 11th, 12th and 13th. That is one lobbying effort from people in the North to try to continue to tell our federal counterparts that we need resources up here to help us develop our infrastructure, to help us get ready for the impending development that is about to happen up here. Our lobbying effort is very good. We have a lot of good information that we want to share with our southern counterparts.

I just want to mention that in December, I had the opportunity to travel to Ottawa and I made a presentation to the Liberal Western Caucus of the Members of Parliament and Senators. In the presentation, I raised the Non-Renewable Resource Development Strategy, that we need the funds. The advice I received is that there is no pot of dollars, no $250 million sitting there. We have to try to change our strategy and try to go for smaller chunks of dollars from different departments.

Perhaps that strategy will work. We are doing that and hopefully, if we keep putting the effort on there, we will be able to convince the people in Ottawa to see what we are trying to do here and perhaps give us the necessary resources we need to develop the North. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Minister. Final supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am aware of the coalition of leaders and business people who are going to Ottawa. I am very pleased to hear that the Minister is going to take the time and go down there and support them in those efforts. That is what he said.

I would just ask the Minister if he would commit to keep us apprised of those results on a regular basis, so that this very important area does not fall between the cracks or get out of our range of vision.

It is extremely important, I know there are many initiatives the government is undertaking and it is easy for things to go by the wayside, but this is extremely important. Will the Minister commit to keeping this House apprised of the progress?

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Question 48-14(5): Non-renewable Resource Development Funding

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 98

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Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Mr. Antoine .

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Page 98

Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just for clarification, the Honourable Joe Handley is the lead on the Non-Renewable Resource Development Strategy. He has committed to go down to Ottawa with this coalition. We as Cabinet Members support the efforts and will commit to follow up on this, keep at it and keep you informed in this House. Thank you.

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Page 98

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Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake , Mr. Roland .

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Question 49-14(5): Consultation On Adoption Act Amendments

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 99

Floyd Roland

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question at this time will be directed to the Minister of Health and Social Services in response to his Minister's statement today on the Adoption and Family Law Act.

Mr. Speaker, in the previous Assembly, this issue had arisen as well and created some controversy. Mr. Speaker, I want to go at this from an issue I raised yesterday in the area of traditional knowledge and healing, and how some of it is appropriate and how some of it probably is not appropriate.

This is an area where I see there might be some appropriateness in developing legislation that this government would go forward and seek some input from those in the Northwest Territories to see if legislation of this type would indeed be accepted.

Mr. Speaker, my question to the Minister of Health and Social Services is, has he consulted the aboriginal groups of the Northwest Territories with this matter? Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 99

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Roland . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Health and Social Services, Mr. Miltenberger .

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Page 99

Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in all the newspapers of the Northwest Territories over the last two weeks, there has been a notice from the government that we intend to move on this particular legislation. That has been done, as I indicated, for the last two weeks in all of the newspapers. Thank you.

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Page 99

Floyd Roland

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Unless the aboriginal groups have direct subscriptions and have a letter of invite to comment before this government develops this proposal, that is a rather empty suggestion out there. Has he in fact consulted any groups in the Northwest Territories with this proposed legislation?

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Thank you, Mr. Roland . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Health and Social Services, Mr. Miltenberger .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 99

Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the intent of the ad in the paper was to solicit and allow people, give them notice and give them a number and a way where they could contact the department for information and provide us with input. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 99

Floyd Roland

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When those ads went out to residents through the newspapers, was this legislative proposal in fact already developed?

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this proposal is ready to be brought forward. I will be giving notice of motion today for the first reading of these particular amendments on Monday. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 99

Floyd Roland

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I see the Member has learned some new tactics in moving around the actual question. Was this proposal developed already and put forward when this ad went out to the people? Thank you.

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Page 99

Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have had the benefit of watching my friend and colleague Mr. Roland on the ice, in terms of stick-handling, being very quick on his feet. I have tried to make use of that in this House.

Mr. Speaker, very clearly this proposal has been under development for some time and yes, it was done when the ads were put in the paper. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 99

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Hay River North , Mr. Delorey .

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Question 50-14(5): Commitment To Affordable Housing

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 99

Paul Delorey

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I read with interest an

article in the February 6th edition of the Yellowknifer, which indicated that the federal government has committed $7.5 million this year, which translates to $45 million over five years towards affordable housing in the Northwest Territories.

This commitment by the federal government was part of their commitment to affordable housing across Canada. Would the Minister please confirm how much of this $45 million in funding will be spent on providing barrier-free affordable housing to our disabled residents? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 100

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Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Delorey . The honourable Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation, Mr. Allen .

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Page 100

Roger Allen

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We do not have any specific amounts dedicated to barrier-free units. They will be considered under the existing home ownership and future housing developments. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. Delorey .

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Page 100

Paul Delorey

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there are currently income thresholds in place for disabled residents who applied to have renovations done to their existing homes. This is very prohibitive.

Would the Minister please inform this House if the income thresholds that are an obstacle to the disabled will be removed as a result of the substantial increase in federal funding? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Delorey . The honourable Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation, Mr. Allen .

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Page 100

Roger Allen

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We are looking at each situation on an individual basis and in the context of the question, we will have to certainly look at that, as that sometimes impacts upon an individual. Thank you.

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Page 100

Paul Delorey

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, will funding be made readily available to help disabled persons adapt their existing homes when they find themselves faced with a sudden and ongoing disability? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you, Mr. Delorey . The honourable Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation, Mr. Allen .

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Roger Allen

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, we certainly will do that under the seniors and disabled preventative maintenance initiative. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

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Thank you, Mr. Minister. Final supplementary, Mr. Delorey .

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Page 100

Paul Delorey

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, would the Minister please indicate what steps his department will be taking to assist disabled persons who want to be able to access an affordable home of their own, given the increase in federal funding? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Page 100

Roger Allen

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If I can use an example, we have in the past established barrier free units in several communities, so it varies from community to community, of course. In the context of the question, we will certainly meet with the individuals to see how we can ably assist them. Thank you.

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Page 100

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Great Slave , Mr. Braden .

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Question 51-14(5): Somba Ke Healing Facility

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 100

Bill Braden

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to follow up on my statement regarding the status of the Somba K

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