Debates of March 23rd, 1994

This is page numbers 789 - 820 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was social .

Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

The Need For A Nunavut Council For Disabled Persons

Absence Of Ordinary Members

The Harvesting Of Seals In Pangnirtung

Black Forest Caribou

Role Of Tourism Subcommittee Under Ed&t

Development Of Policy For Students Attending Southern High Schools

Status Of Federal/territorial Agreement Re Employment Programs

Status Of Maintenance Contract For Kakisa Falls Facility

Reductions To Yellowknife Education District Budget

Status Of Response To Pond Inlet Contractor Re Rent Supplement Units

Renovations To Senior Citizens' Home In Fort Providence

Status Of Responsibility For Senior Citizens' Home In Fort Liard

Compensation For Accidental Death In Fort Providence

Communication From Injured Workers Outside Nwt

Injured Workers' Access To Courts Following Appeals Process

Information For Communities On WCB Process

Mode Of Transportation For Building Supplies To Nahendeh Communities

Policy On Payment For Funeral Costs

Inclusion Of Companies Other Than Ntcl For Barging Services

Restrictions On Contractors' Licences Not Complying To Safety Practices

Resolution Of Constituent's Financial Difficulties

Written Question 22-12(5): Subcommittees Of Economic Development And Tourism

Item 12: Tabling Of Documents

Special Order Of Reference To Standing Committee On Agencies, Boards And Commissions Of The First Annual Report Of The Languages Commissioner Of The Northwest Territories

Bill 20:

An Act To Amend The Income Tax Act, No. 2

Item 15: Motions

Special Order Of Reference To Standing Committee On Agencies, Boards And Commissions Of The First Annual Report Of The Languages Commissioner Of The Northwest Territories

Bill 16:

An Act To Amend The Arctic College Act

Item 17: Second Reading Of Bills

Bill 16:

An Act To Amend The Arctic College Act

Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1994-95Committee Report 2-12(5): Review Of The 1994-95 Main Estimates

To Adopt Recommendation 28

To Adopt Recommendation 32

To Adopt Recommendation 33

Item 19: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Item 21: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Mr. Allooloo , Mr. Antoine , Hon. Silas Arngna'naaq , Mr. Ballantyne , Hon. Nellie Cournoyea , Mr. Gargan , Mr. Lewis , Hon. Jeannie Marie-Jewell , Hon. Rebecca Mike , Hon. Don Morin , Hon. Richard Nerysoo , Mr. Ningark , Hon. John Pollard , Mr. Pudlat , Hon. John Todd , Mr. Whitford , Mr. Zoe

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Good afternoon. The Speaker recognizes that there is no quorum. Mr. Clerk, would you record the Members present.

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

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Clerk Of The House

Mr. David Hamilton

Mr. Pudlat , Mr. Ballantyne , Mr. Gargan , Mr. Allooloo , Ms. Mike , Mr. Pollard , Ms. Cournoyea , Mr. Morin , Mr. Ningark , Mr. Lewis and Madam Speaker.

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

I notice that one Member has arrived since. Please record the rest of the Members, Mr. Clerk.

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

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Clerk Of The House

Mr. David Hamilton

Mr. Zoe , Mr. Antoine , Mr. Arngna'naaq , Mr. Nerysoo and Mr. Whitford .

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

I recognize a quorum. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Baffin South , Mr. Pudlat .

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The Need For A Nunavut Council For Disabled Persons

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Kenoayoak Pudlat

Baffin South

(Translation) Thank you, Madam Speaker. Last month, a conference was held in Iqaluit, organized by the NWT Council for Disabled Persons. The name of the conference was Taking Back Our Lives and was attended by delegates from many of the communities in Nunavut. One of the things that came out of the meeting was the need for a Nunavut Council for Disabled Persons.

They have expressed concern about being able to properly fill their mandate. There is also a need for Nunavut disabled persons and care givers to have representation for their concerns closer to home, especially with division on the horizon. There is a movement now to form such an organization, but they require assistance and support to do so.

During this session, I will be pressuring the government to look into the matter and lend the required assistance and support. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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The Need For A Nunavut Council For Disabled Persons

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Natilikmiot , Mr. Ningark .

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Absence Of Ordinary Members

Item 3: Members' Statements

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John Ningark

Natilikmiot

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would like to inform the House about some of the ordinary Members who are not in the House today. Mr. Fred Koe is in Nova Scotia for a curling championship, accompanying his kids. Mr. Patterson is in Iqaluit, attending a trade show. Mr. Dent is still in Ottawa with his wife, helping out with the new-born baby. Mr. Kelvin Ng is in Cambridge Bay attending the Kitikmeot Youth Conference and Mr. Pudluk is still in Edmonton on medical leave. Thank you.

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Absence Of Ordinary Members

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Baffin Central , Ms. Mike .

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The Harvesting Of Seals In Pangnirtung

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, I want to add to the comments made by the Member for Iqaluit yesterday when we were discussing the Department of Economic Development and Tourism in committee of the whole. In a question to Mr. Todd , the Member stated that there were a sizeable number of seal pelts being harvested in Pangnirtung for sale to Japan.

For the record, Madam Speaker, the primary reason for hunting seals in Pangnirtung and other areas of Nunavut, is for food. It is important to recognize this fact. I wouldn't want to leave the impression in the north or in other areas of the world that the seals are being taken primarily for economic reasons. Thank you.

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The Harvesting Of Seals In Pangnirtung

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Lewis .

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Black Forest Caribou

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Over the last several years, I've taken an interest in renewable resources, especially in northern products and ones you can eat. I recently acquired, through the good offices of Mr. Todd , a

product called black forest caribou, which is a product of the meat plant in Rankin Inlet. After several tests with visitors, it has been judged to be a superior product. One suggestion from someone who is an expert in the trade is that this particular kind of meat would make excellent pastrami, which is a wonderful, value-added product, which I'm sure will provide some extra source of income for the people involved in renewable resources. Thank you.

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Black Forest Caribou

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral question. Item 5, oral questions. The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Antoine .

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Question 349-12(5): Role Of Tourism Subcommittee Under Ed&t

Item 5: Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Mahsi, Madam Speaker. Yesterday, during committee of the whole when we were talking about Economic Development and Tourism, we were told that the department has developed subcommittees to deal with different sectors of the industry. I was particularly asking about the tourism subcommittee that was set up. I understand that in the west, the co-chair is John Sheehan. It is a subcommittee of superintendents, I guess.

I would like to ask the Minister, is this subcommittee another layer of bureaucracy that people in the communities have to go through before they get applications approved for seeking funding for tourism projects? Thank you.

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Question 349-12(5): Role Of Tourism Subcommittee Under Ed&t

Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Economic Development and Tourism , Mr. Todd .

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Item 5: Oral Questions

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

No, Madam Speaker. The subcommittee is an internal committee made up of superintendents who are -- as I stated earlier in the House -- part of the senior management team, when they are developing government policies as they relate to tourism. It is not a committee that deals with distribution of funds.

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Antoine .

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Question 349-12(5): Role Of Tourism Subcommittee Under Ed&t

Item 5: Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Supplementary to the same Minister. This subcommittee is not another layer of bureaucracy. The Minister just indicated that they don't have any dealings with the funding, but can the Minister explain to the House the role of this subcommittee in terms of a small community wanting to get involved in the tourism industry? How does this subcommittee work with this community to try to achieve the type of tourism development they may be seeking? Thank you.

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Question 349-12(5): Role Of Tourism Subcommittee Under Ed&t

Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Economic Development and Tourism , Mr. Todd .

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Question 349-12(5): Role Of Tourism Subcommittee Under Ed&t

Item 5: Oral Questions

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. When we reorganized the department and we took the steps to decentralize spending and lending authorities, it wasn't just within the Credit Corporation of the EDA, there is also a significant amount of dollars that are spent on tourism marketing and development. Each of these changes that took place and the internal changes, were driven by the superintendents and the senior management team made of the deputy and the assistant deputy minister. It is an internal committee that assists in developing policies that are, hopefully, more reflective of the needs of the regions.

In the past, these policies were all developed within the centre with little or no regional input at a bureaucratic level. That is how this works. It is not a committee that deals with the implementation of policy, et cetera. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. The honourable Member for Amittuq , Mr. Allooloo .

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Question 350-12(5): Development Of Policy For Students Attending Southern High Schools

Item 5: Oral Questions

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Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Thank you, Madam Speaker. The other day, I made a Member's statement regarding a lack of policy for students who are attending school outside the Northwest Territories. I would like to ask a question to the Minister responsible for Education, Culture and Employment . As I stated in my Member's statement, there is no policy covering the reimbursement of money to parents who decide to send their children south for high school. Given that these parents contribute to the tax base, can the Minister tell me if he is willing to develop a policy to deal with this important issue? Thank you.

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Question 350-12(5): Development Of Policy For Students Attending Southern High Schools

Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment Programs, Mr. Nerysoo .

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Item 5: Oral Questions

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Speaker. At this time, no. I believe that each particular case can be dealt with on a case-by-case basis. I would be very careful about suggesting the promotion of a policy that would somehow challenge the development of a northern secondary school program and policy and put at risk the development of an educational program that would be under-utilized by parents who would be taking the choice of sending their children to southern Canada. I would be very careful with that. I think the honourable Member knows I took the issue he has raised to Cabinet and we dealt with it reasonably and fairly.

I would rather deal with it in that context, than have an overall policy that would see our students being sent to southern Canada.

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Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Allooloo .

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Item 5: Oral Questions

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Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Since the Minister is not willing to develop a policy to address those students who are attending school outside the Northwest Territories, is the government's priority to get our kids the best education that they possibly can? Thank you.

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Item 5: Oral Questions

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment Programs, Mr. Nerysoo .

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Yes. Yes, in the context of building an educational system in the north that meets the qualifications and quality of education that will be acceptable throughout Canada.

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Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Allooloo .

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Item 5: Oral Questions

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Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Thank you, Madam Speaker. So if the kids who are attending school in the Northwest Territories are not able to take courses they are interested in because they are not offered in the Northwest Territories, could the Minister look at possible assistance to parents for those students? Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment Programs, Mr. Nerysoo .

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I will certainly consider the suggestion that is being made by the honourable Member, but I hope it is within the context of this government and this Assembly supporting the development of a quality program and service in the area of education in the Northwest Territories.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife North , Mr. Ballantyne .

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Question 351-12(5): Status Of Federal/territorial Agreement Re Employment Programs

Item 5: Oral Questions

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Michael Ballantyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Speaker. My question is for the Premier and it is regarding an announcement made today about an agreement signed between the province of News Brunswick, Premier McKenna, and the federal government, the Honourable Lloyd Axworthy, about an innovative new program to put people to work. I understand that 1,000 people have been put to work in New Brunswick. There is a guaranteed income for those people. In return, they agree to work. Anything extra they make they are allowed to keep. My understanding is there is $800 million available for these sorts of programs across the country.

I know our government is working on some concepts, but I wonder if the Premier can enlighten me as to when we can expect to sign an agreement with the federal government to take advantage of this $800 million?

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Madam Premier .

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Question 351-12(5): Status Of Federal/territorial Agreement Re Employment Programs

Item 5: Oral Questions

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Madam Speaker, the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment is handling this particular area in the government and I would defer the question to the honourable Member.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment Programs, Mr. Nerysoo .

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I am pleased that the honourable Member was paying attention to the announcement that was made. We are working out the criteria to which we will access the $800 million. The program that has been agreed to by the province of New Brunswick is in addition to the $800 million, and our investing in people will address those same issues that the New Brunswick/Canada agreement is now responding to.

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Michael Ballantyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Speaker. It is good that I know which Minister to address that to because there was some coordination with the Minister of Social Services and the Minister of Education . Up until now, we have heard the very broad, general concept of the sort of approach the government is going to take. I wonder if the Minister could give us a bit more specific detail as to the specific type of projects that you are now discussing with the federal government. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I am trying to find the exact details. We are attempting to lay out the criteria by which all jurisdictions will have access to the $800 million the honourable Member mentioned. What has normally happened, historically, is that each jurisdiction has negotiated on an individual basis with the federal government on federal financial resources. It was our concern across the country, both in terms of the Ministers of Education, Labour Market Ministers and post-secondary Ministers, that we did not want a situation where political favours were being paid to particular provinces.

Rather than doing that, we wanted to establish criteria by which all jurisdictions were treated equally and fairly in the distribution of the $800 million. We will come to a conclusion on that by the third week in April.

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Michael Ballantyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I thank the Minister for that. It seems to me that in the Northwest Territories where the traditional life-style, because of the attacks by the anti-fur industry, is not providing enough sustenance to maintain people. It seems to me that there is a tremendous opportunity here in the Northwest Territories to make a case to the federal government that can provide some sort of a combination of the traditional pursuits and the wage economy, I think we could probably provide a very interesting model here. I wonder if the Minister is looking at that sort of an innovative approach to take advantage of our unique situation here in the Northwest Territories.

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Yes, that is exactly what we're doing. I'm working in conjunction with my colleague, the Honourable Rebecca Mike , and Cabinet has given us approval to discuss those various options. The investing in people does take into consideration that particular situation. We are also considering the proposal to be brought forward to the federal government and, in fact, I've submitted a number of proposals that have been approved by the Edmonton office and have been submitted to the federal Minister for his signature. That is being taken into consideration.

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Thank you. Final supplementary, Mr. Ballantyne .

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Michael Ballantyne

Yellowknife North

Final supplementary, Madam Speaker. Again, I thank the Minister for that. When can we expect, from the Minister, the actual specific details of some sort of an arrangement that could be worked out with the federal government on this matter?

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Madam Speaker, I was hoping we would have some of the arrangements signed off by the federal Minister by the end of this month. I'm not sure what the reasons are for the federal government not signing off some of those CAP 3 initiatives. On the matter of the criteria for the $800 million, that will be signed off hopefully by the end of April and we can immediately access the resources.

On the investing in people, we will continue to work on a number of specific agreements that we are now considering and proposing. Hopefully, all those can be signed off no later than at least June 30 of this year, but if anything happens where we can't sign them off, I'll report back to the Assembly as to the reasons why we have not proceeded.

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Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. The honourable Member for Deh Cho , Mr. Gargan .

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Item 5: Oral Questions

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Thank you, Madam Speaker. We're going to presumably be concluding our session within the next couple of weeks. Usually around this time, Members go back to their correspondence to make sure that anything that is overdue is responded to before conclusion of the session. I wanted to ask the Minister of Economic Development and Tourism , Mr. Todd , if he has any plans for the Lady Evelyn Falls. As you know, Madam Speaker, a substantial amount of money has been spent to create a visitors' centre there, and some facilities for sleeping quarters, et cetera.

I requested the Minister, last year, if he would consider designating a person to operate that facility to come from Kakisa. The Minister hasn't said one way or the other whether a decision has been made. I have other questions with regard to that, but I want to ask the Minister whether he has considered my request.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Yes, the honourable Member did write to me about the Lady Evelyn Falls Park and the maintenance contract. My understanding -- and again, I stand to be corrected -- is that we were going to negotiate a contract with the Kakisa Lake Dene Band earlier in the year. I would have to check with the deputy minister to see what the status of that is. It certainly was my intention to reach an appropriate arrangement with the Dene band that is in that area, to maintain this park. However, it may be more appropriate that I get an update from my deputy and report back to the honourable Member in due course. Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife South , Mr. Whitford .

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would like to direct a question to the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , primarily in the education area. I was just reading the newspaper and I heard on the radio that the Yellowknife school district is considering reducing its staff in order to try to meet its budget. Part of the problem that has been expressed by the school board is that there have been certain reductions in the per pupil costs to the board, a reduction in the amount of money that they receive from the territorial government. I would like to ask the Minister of Education if he can clarify that statement, and what reductions exactly we are talking about.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Mr. Whitford , in accordance with our rules, it's not allowed for a Member to ask a question of a Minister to confirm or deny comment that is written in the newspaper. I would like to ask if you could rephrase your question, which would be in accordance with our rules. Thank you.

The honourable Member for Yellowknife South , Mr. Whitford .

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Question 353-12(5): Reductions To Yellowknife Education District Budget

Item 5: Oral Questions

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I apologize for that, I was using the newspaper there as a detraction, I wasn't actually quoting from it. I was trying to formulate a question to the Minister with regard to the concerns that the Yellowknife school district has that the amounts of money they will need to meet their forecasted budget for the next year, are going to be short by around $1 million. Part of the problem is with reductions that they are experiencing from the territorial government and the federal government. I would like to ask the Minister if he can clarify what these reductions are for student per capita that the school district is concerned with.

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Item 5: Oral Questions

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Just for the information of Members -- and I appreciate the question being asked -- the school funding formulas, as we all know, are used across the Northwest Territories to determine contributions. Using these formulas, the department estimates its contribution to Yellowknife Education District No. 1 will increase from $8.9 million for 1993-94 to $9.1 million for 1994-95. This 2.5 per cent projected quote in contributions responds to increased student enrolment. In Yellowknife Education District No. 1 the enrolment increased from 1,715 to 1,790, which is a four per cent increase.

There are no other significant factors affecting the proposed contributions for 1994-95.

Although, not considered significant, a change in the administration formula did decrease the salaries and increase operating funds. The net effect was a decrease of $16,000. Increases to transportation and termination benefits resulting from the school finance review recommendations were implemented through a supplementary appropriation, and I'm glad the honourable Members supported them in 1993-94. The school district's press release is correct, that there is a slight decrease on a per student basis. It is also true that not all costs increase every year with the number of students.

For example, the district's costs of operating its school buildings will not increase with the number of students in 1994-95. Thus, one could consider that the per student costs in this area will decrease. In other words, Madam Speaker, the school sizes are not increasing, therefore, the school O and M costs should not necessarily be.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

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Question 354-12(5): Status Of Response To Pond Inlet Contractor Re Rent Supplement Units

Item 5: Oral Questions

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Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation a question. He is aware that a local construction company in Pond Inlet would like to negotiate with the Housing Corporation for rent supplement units in Pond Inlet. I also understand, Madam Speaker, that there have been a large number of requests from other communities to do the same thing. I would like to ask the Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation what the Government of the Northwest Territories response will be to these requests. Thank you.

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I won't know the Government of the Northwest Territories response until I take it to Cabinet. Thank you.

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Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Thank you, Madam Speaker. When is the Minister taking the requests to Cabinet? Thank you.

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Madam Speaker. As soon as the paper is prepared for it. Thank you.

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Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Madam Speaker, I asked when he will be taking his request to the Cabinet, not when the paper will be ready. Thank you.

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Madam Speaker. And I responded, when the paper is ready, I will take it to Cabinet. Thank you.

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Thank you, Madam Speaker. When is that going to be ready?

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Madam Speaker. As soon as the Housing Corporation finishes preparing it.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Fortunately, that was your final supplementary, Mr. Allooloo . Item 5, oral question. The honourable Member for Deh Cho , Mr. Gargan .

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Again, I would like to direct my question to the Minister of Social Services . Madam Speaker, about a year and a half ago, I invited the Minister to come to Fort Providence. She did and I appreciate that. Oh, that was this fall, I'm sorry. During the visit, we visited the senior citizens' home. There are two units that are combined into clusters. They share a kitchen and the bathroom.

I want to ask the Minister whether or not she's been able to review my request with regard to trying to renovate those two units so they can become detached units. I've asked that question several times, but I haven't really had any response due to the unclear nature of who is responsible.

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. My understanding is that the seniors' facility in Fort Providence is owned by the Housing Corporation. At the time, I responded to Mr. Gargan , I told him I would be working with my honourable colleague, Donnie Morin to see if we could get those two units that don't have entrances from the outside fixed.

To date, I haven't brought that concern to Mr. Morin 's attention. But, definitely, I will set a time to meet with him this week to see what we can do. Thank you.

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Question 356-12(5): Status Of Responsibility For Senior Citizens' Home In Fort Liard

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Madam Speaker. My question is for the Minister responsible for Social Services . This has to do with senior facilities as well. I think I've raised this before, but I want to do it again. I have a real concern with the lack of facilities in the community of Fort Liard for the elders there. Many years ago, the band built a log structure which has four units. It is made out of logs and it is right on the ground. Elders are still living in it today after ten years and the logs are all rotting on the bottom. They keep fixing it and they have been requesting that a senior citizens' facility be built in Liard for a number of years now.

I would like to ask the Minister of Social Services , is it the responsibility of her department to work with the people in Liard to see if a seniors' facility could be built there? Thank you.

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I was not aware that we have a seniors' facility operated by Social Services in Liard, but I will look into it and get back to the Member. Thank you.

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I think the Minister responsible for Social Services misunderstood me. I said there was a log structure built by the band, with band funds, for their elders. There is no facility there that was built by the Government of the Northwest Territories, to date. The band has been using the facility for some of their elders. If you go and see the facility yourself, you wouldn't want any of your elders to be put up in it.

The point here is that the community needs a seniors' facility, and I asked if your department was responsible for working with the community to see if a seniors' facility could be built there by the Government of the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

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Baffin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I appreciate the Member clarifying his question. Yes, it is the responsibility of Social Services for seniors' facilities and to identify which communities do need senior citizen homes. Thank you.

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister if she and her department would be willing to work with the community of Liard to see if a seniors' facility could be built there? Thank you.

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I think, in this House, I have already made indications that the strategic plan for facilities that Social Services is responsible for is in the comprehensive planning phase right now. The plans should be ready by September of this year. Thank you.

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I'm very aware of the capital planning process. My question to the Minister was, is she and her department willing to work with the community of Liard to see if seniors' facilities could be built there within the next couple of years or so? Thank you.

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would just like the Member to be aware that we have a plan to set the criteria for the capital projects Social Services is responsible for. Yes, once that criteria is in place, my departmental officials will be working with the community groups and identify where these facilities have to be built. Thank you.

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Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. The honourable Member for Deh Cho , Mr. Gargan .

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would like to direct my question to the Minister responsible for the Workers' Compensation Board. Madam Speaker, about two and a half years ago, there was an accident in Fort Providence in which there was a death of a young man by the name of Aubrey Denetre. I have been working with his mother to try to resolve the issue. I don't know, Madam Speaker, whether I should be directing the question to him, Mr. Todd , or to, perhaps, the Minister of Justice . This has never been resolved.

The last letter I wrote was about six months ago and I haven't had any kind of response as to whether his mother is going to be assisted or if she is going to be compensated somehow for the death of her son. Every six months I have been asking the same question without any result. I would like to ask, if not to the Minister of the Workers' Compensation Board, then maybe I could ask the Government Leader .

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I'm not aware of the circumstances surrounding this situation. I'm not sure whether it would be a Workers' Compensation Board client -- perhaps that's the wrong term -- responsibility. I would have to get some more detail from the Member and see if we can define whose responsibility it is. If it is the responsibility of the Workers' Compensation Board -- and I stress "if" -- I want to assure the honourable Member he will get action on it, one way or the other. Thank you.

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I get many letters and phone calls from injured workers in different parts of the country. Although the WCB is an arm's-length agency, this, in fact, occupies a fair amount of my time. I would like to ask the Minister, since he is the Minister through who the WCB reports to the House, whether he also gets lots of letters and phone calls from injured workers outside of the Northwest Territories.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Yes, I get my share of letters and phone calls. We're endeavouring to try to respond to them as quickly and as efficiently as possible. Thank you.

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Brian Lewis

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I appreciate the Minister's answer, but I would like to ask the Minister, since this is an arm's- length agency, how does he specifically handle letters and phone calls from people who want to know exactly where their particular case lies in the process followed by WCB?

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

The responsibility for determining compensation lies solely in the jurisdiction of the board. What I do is pass the information along to the chairperson who then deals with it accordingly. Thank you.

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Judging from the response, Madam Speaker, would the Minister concur, then, that simply writing a letter to an elected person only results in the letter or the phone call being transferred to the place where this matter is going to be dealt with anyway?

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Clinically speaking, I suppose that's correct. However, it does raise the issue politically and it does get addressed to myself. I alert the board or provide them with the information that this phone call has made. I would stress that in most cases it's usually in the appeals area and that's one area that I believe lies within the exclusive jurisdiction of the appeals board. That's about all I have to say on the matter at this time.

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

I would like to thank the Minister for giving me the opportunity to bring up a person's name, since he has concurred that there is a political dimension to this. I get phone calls, practically every week, and faxes from a gentleman named Ed Melcosky. This man, I am sure, phones other people in the legislature, too. He is sitting in Peachland in BC and he spends a lot of money, which apparently he doesn't have, to phone people long distance. So I would like to ask the Minister, could he publicly say what he knows about this particular case because then, perhaps, this person wouldn't have to be spending all this money phoning me to find out stuff that I just don't have access to?

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Oh, dear. I think I must get the same phone calls. Certainly, Mr. Melcosky has been diligent in providing me with his position as it relates to his appeal. Again, that appeal process and the claim process is the exclusive jurisdiction of the WCB. While we, as politicians, can lend a sympathetic ear, the jurisdiction really lies within the WCB board of directors. There is a workers' advisor advocate. That's a position that is now under Safety and Public Services, where workers who are concerned about perhaps not being as well represented as they should as it relates to WCB can go to seek advice and direction with respect to their particular claim. Thank you.

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Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife North , Mr. Ballantyne .

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Michael Ballantyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you. I also have a question for the Minister responsible for the Workers' Compensation Board. I, too, get numerous phone calls and letters from injured workers. But I think like the other Yellowknife MLAs, we respect the process. There is a process in place and I think it's very important that that process is allowed to be carried out without political interference. The one question I have for the Minister, if somebody does go all the way through the process and their claim is rejected at each stage, then at the final stage it's rejected, do they have access at that point to the courts? I just want to know what I can tell them when they've reached the end of the road.

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Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 796

The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister responsible for the Workers' Compensation Board, Mr. Todd .

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

It's my understanding that once they've gone through the appeal process, which is a lengthy and very comprehensive review, if it's rejected I believe the only other alternative -- and I keep qualifying it because I'm not a lawyer -- is they can appeal to the Supreme Court. But I would like to check with Mr. Gilmour, the chairman, to be sure that I'm correct on this issue. But I believe that's the final, ultimate appeal process.

I think it's important to point out, because I know this is an issue that is sensitive right now with a number of claimants. I want to remind everybody again, 3,728 claims went through the WCB last year. At last count there were 42 appeals. Under the previous chairperson, Mr. Bourque, and now Mr. McNenly, we have taken the appropriate action to sit for the next six months to try to bring those appeals to some satisfactory conclusion. But, by going through the appeal process there should be no assumption that it's going to be successful. That's what it's all about. It is a review appeal process.

So, we are trying to take the appropriate action to move forward in clearly making judgements on appeals, but because it's gone forward we should never assume it's going to go one way or the other. Thank you.

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Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Ballantyne .

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Item 5: Oral Questions

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Michael Ballantyne

Yellowknife North

I appreciate that response from the Minister, but because the Minister didn't take the question as notice, can I ask the Minister if he would make a definitive statement in this House as to what recourse workers have if they have exhausted all their possibilities in the WCB process?

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Yes, Madam Speaker. Thank you.

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Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. The honourable Member for Baffin South , Mr. Pudlat .

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Question 360-12(5): Information For Communities On WCB Process

Item 5: Oral Questions

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Kenoayoak Pudlat

Baffin South

(Translation) Madam Speaker, my question is directed to the Minister of the Workers' Compensation Board. Sometimes in the communities, if an accident occurs in any working environment, they find it hard or difficult to talk to different departments. I wonder if the Minister can bring some information item to the communities whereby, if anybody is in or has an accident, they will be better informed as to how to find out about claim forms and compensation. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I think it was clearly recognized at the time when we appointed the new board and, in particular, the new chairman, Mr. Gilmour, that perhaps our public relations, if you want, or our information strategy was somewhat weak, particularly out of the larger centres where you have large mining developments or organized labour developments.

So there is a communications strategy in place right now which Mr. Gilmour and others are working on in terms of newsletters and information out into the regions. We are working with the Department of Safety and Public Services in trying to bring forward our safety education programs. When the safety education program people get into the communities, they also distribute information about how to move forward a claim, a dispute or whatever.

At a practical level, when a worker is injured and he goes to the nursing station, it is automatic, or it is supposed to be automatic, that the nursing station would then fill in a WCB accident report. That then clicks into the system and churns out the appropriate paper necessary for that claimant to be taken care of. Thank you.

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Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Pudlat .

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Kenoayoak Pudlat

Baffin South

(Translation) Thank you, Madam Speaker. Thank you for your answer, Mr. Minister. Supplementary to my question. I am concerned about the smaller communities in general. I understand the nursing stations might be aware of where to refer the people who are supposed to be claiming for compensation. I wonder if the Minister can provide me with an

information item before we finish our meeting during this time. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Minister responsible for the Workers' Compensation Board, Mr. Todd .

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

I agree with the honourable Member that there has been a lack of information, if you want, as it relates to WCB in the smaller communities and, historically, the focus has been on the larger centres. We are making every effort to improve our communications because we want to ensure that all workers -- organized and unorganized, big companies, small companies, little guys, big guys -- are all covered. So we do have a program in place. I will provide it to the honourable Member. I want to assure him that it is an important issue to myself and to the WCB, and next week we will provide him with the full details of what we are doing. Thank you.

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Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Antoine .

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Question 361-12(5): Mode Of Transportation For Building Supplies To Nahendeh Communities

Item 5: Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Madam Speaker. My question is for the Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation. With regard to this year's building season, there is a situation that I am aware of in my constituency where we have winter roads to Jean Marie River and to Wrigley. However, I would like to know if the supplies for next year's access units were delivered by road or do they have to wait for the NTCL barge to deliver these supplies? Thank you.

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Item 5: Oral Questions

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation , Mr. Morin .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I have instructed the Housing Corporation, where the Government of the NWT has spent money to put in winter roads, we should deliver by winter road and not wait for barges. Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you. I have a number of small communities in my constituency that have winter roads, and I would just like to ask the Minister if he is aware if all the building supplies for the access units have been delivered in the communities to date since the weather is warming up and the roads will probably go out pretty soon. I just wanted to know if he knows if all these materials have been delivered. Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation , Mr. Morin .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I know that the tenders closed last month on winter road delivery and all the tenders have been awarded, so, hopefully, they are in your communities before the roads go out.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. The honourable Member for Deh Cho , Mr. Gargan .

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Question 362-12(5): Policy On Payment For Funeral Costs

Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 798

Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Thank you, Madam Speaker. A couple of weeks ago, there was a funeral service in Fort Providence. Some of the problems that the community experienced were with regard to the inconsistencies in who pays for funeral services and how that is determined. In the situation two weeks ago, I think the relatives of the deceased covered practically all the costs. I don't know who is eligible. When they have a deceased person, who covers the costs? I would like to ask the Minister whether there is a policy in place right now with regard to when you have a funeral service, who covers the costs for the casket, the transportation and that sort of thing?

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Social Services , Ms. Mike .

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. It really depends on individual cases. I am not familiar with the details of Mr. Gargan 's question, but with Social Services it is usually that if the patient dies out of territories and the family cannot afford to pay for the transportation and for the casket, Social Services pays for the costs. One of the criteria that we use is if that person or the family is receiving social assistance. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Thank you, Madam Speaker. So the costs are only absorbed by the department if the individual is on social assistance.

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Or in a case where the family has no income and cannot pay for the costs.

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

So how do you determine income in this case then? Does this mean that if you're on a fixed income, or if you are earning a living?

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Like I said, it is handled case by case. For example, if my son -- who is out of the territories now -- happens to pass away, I would not be eligible. I would have to absorb the costs. I'm earning a wage. I don't know if that answers the Member's question or not.

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

When I refer to fixed income, I'm referring to a pension, or if you are on social assistance. I'm wondering if those are also considered as the basis for your ineligibility.

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Baffin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I don't think social assistance is considered to be an income. Thank you.

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