Debates of Feb. 28th, 2005

This is page numbers 1591 - 1630 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was chairman .

Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

Residential Tenancies Act Consultation

Performance Of A Cabinet Member

Future Of The Deh Cho Hall

Human Resource Review At The North Slave Correctional Centre

Recognition Of Participants At The Sport North Symposium

Qualification For Homeownership

North Slave Sports Report

Independent Appeals Tribunal For The Workers' Compensation Board

Critical Assessment Of Ministers' Performance

Human Resource Review Of North Slave Correctional Centre

Closure Of The Dene K'onia Young Offenders Facility

Eligibility For Public Housing

WCB Appeals Tribunal

Coroner's Relationship To The Department Of Justice

Details Of The National Childcare Program

Anchor Field Of The Mackenzie Gas Project

Closure Of The Dene K'onia Young Offenders Facility

Consistency In Dealing With Clients In Arrears

Bathurst Caribou Management Plan

Update On Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder

Revert To Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Tabled Document 115-15(3): Amendments To The Residential Tenancies Act: A Consultation Paper, March 2005

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Recommendation Regarding The Deh Cho Bridge Concession Agreement

Recommendation To Divert Funds From Chipseal Projects To Highway Reconstruction

Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Bill 15: Tlicho Community Services Agency Act

Item 22: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Honourable Brendan Bell , Mr. Braden , Honourable Paul Delorey , Honourable Charles Dent , Mrs. Groenewegen , Honourable Joe Handley , Mr. Hawkins , Honourable David Krutko , Ms. Lee , Honourable Michael McLeod , Mr. McLeod, Mr. Menicoche , Honourable Michael Miltenberger , Mr. Ramsay , Honourable Floyd Roland , Mr. Zoe

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Good afternoon, colleagues. Welcome to anther week of work on behalf of the people of the Northwest Territories. Item 2, Ministers' statements. The honourable Minister of Justice , Mr. Dent .

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Minister's Statement 98-15(3): Residential Tenancies Act Consultation

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Department of Justice is beginning public consultations on proposed amendments to the Residential Tenancies Act. The proposed amendments would modernize the act and make it more focused. They would also ensure that disputes are resolved more quickly and make sure landlords and tenants have effective remedies. I will table the document "Amendments to the Residential Tenancies Act Consultation Paper" later today.

The Residential Tenancies Act regulates the relationship between residential landlords and tenants. It strikes a balance between the interests of tenants and landlords. It also provides for the resolution of disputes between landlords and tenants by a rental officer.

We are proposing a number of amendments to the act. Many are minor and are essentially housekeeping items. They correct errors and outdated references. Other proposed changes are intended to introduce new remedies to protect landlords and tenants. A few changes are intended to shorten administrative processes, including the time required to determine undisputed applications for unpaid rent, and permit the rental officer to issue eviction orders.

The consultation paper is being distributed to stakeholders and is also on the Department of Justice web site. The paper contains a brief overview of tenancy issues in the NWT, suggests changes and poses questions for discussion. The department is inviting written responses until the end of April. Ads will be placed in NWT newspapers to inform the public that they can participate. A phone number is available to anyone with questions. This will be followed by focused stakeholder and public consultations later this spring. The department wants to hear from landlords, tenants, non-government organizations and anyone who can offer suggestions about the proposed amendments.

Also, the department welcomes general comments about the Residential Tenancies Act. Given the recent concerns expressed about increases to rental rates, this is also an opportunity for landlords and tenants to express opinions on rent controls in the Northwest Territories. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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Minister's Statement 98-15(3): Residential Tenancies Act Consultation

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent . Item 2, Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Performance Of A Cabinet Member

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I want to talk about performance of Cabinet Ministers and our expectations on this side of the House. A Cabinet Minister in our consensus government is someone selected from amongst us to oversee and lead in areas of our government's actions and responses to the needs of our constituents. Although traditionally we tend to elect people with experience to these leadership roles, there is more than experience to take into account.

As a Regular Member, I expect our Premier and Cabinet Ministers to take the authority and leadership with which they have been entrusted very seriously and bring their very best efforts to that role and, for the most part, Mr. Speaker, I must say that I have been pleased with our choices.

Our four-year terms are relatively short. It's not much time to bring the aspirations and mark of this Assembly to bear on the matters which we were elected to govern. We can't afford to waste time. It takes more than a maintainer or manager approach to show the kind of leadership that we want to see. This is particularly important in areas which impact our people to the extent of Education, Culture and Employment and Justice.

In an earlier statement in March, I served notice of my concerns about Ministers who had been warming chairs on that side of the House in the past and are back. Sadly, Mr. Speaker, we are more than one year into our mandate and I still see Mr. Dent performing his duties in a hands-off, that's-not-my-role, that's-what-my-officials-tell-me way. Bottom line; I am not satisfied with Mr. Dent 's performance as Minister of ECE and Justice and I honestly haven't talked to too many people who are.

It is no one's God-given right to sit on Cabinet. It was a privilege given to one from amongst us, at the pleasure of this House, based on that person being representative of the collective will and direction of Members as we endeavour to obtain positive outcomes on behalf of our constituents. So, to me, it's simple. People either perform to that standard or we find someone who will. There is no shortage of talent amongst the Yellowknife Members. I believe the handling of the North Slave Correctional

Centre concern should have been cause enough to send an alarm about competence and the confidence that we placed in Mr. Dent . The dialogue over the Justice cuts his department proposed for this year's budget has proven they are not readily defendable. The information is questionable. It's the Minister's job to answer to these decisions. The buck stops with him, not his officials, not his advisors and not the Finance Minister .

Mr. Speaker, I am not satisfied. I want to revisit Mr. Dent 's participation in Cabinet. The work that we have on behalf of northerners in the area of Justice and Education are too important for that role to be occupied by someone just doing a job. I want passion, heart, creativity, accountability, responsiveness and, most of all, leadership. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Performance Of A Cabinet Member

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Future Of The Deh Cho Hall

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Mr. Speaker, last Friday, I was asking some questions about the government's plan to shut down the Deh Cho Hall. It's in Fort Simpson. I just wanted to address this issue today in a Member's statement. The Department of Public Works and Services and Education, Culture and Employment are meeting to decide the fate of the hall today. Mr. Speaker, I received a letter from the Village of Fort Simpson and they are concerned that Public Works and Services is going to tear down the Deh Cho Hall in 2006, based on some phantom report that no one in my community has ever seen.

This is a very serious issue for my constituents, Mr. Speaker. We are talking about 30,000 square feet of prime real estate. I am glad the departments are meeting about the building because they talk about shutting it down, but we need community input too, Mr. Speaker.

To all the people of Fort Simpson, Mr. Speaker, Deh Cho Hall isn't just some line item on a department's to do list. When Simpson looks at the hall, we don't see a dilapidated old building. We see a place where our people can go to get training in order to make better lives for themselves and their families. The people in Fort Simpson say the hall's foundation is good and with a little fixing up, we see that hall standing for another 50 years.

Mr. Speaker, I think we will be sending a bad message to the community in order to tear down a perfectly good building, especially when our need for infrastructure in Nahendeh is so high. Mr. Speaker, wasn't it the Premier who said not so long ago that he can't understand why there are so many buildings left empty in communities when they could be fixed up for families to live in. I would use the same argument for Deh Cho Hall. I can't understand why this government would abandon a perfectly serviceable building when it, too, could be fixed up.

Deh Cho Hall, to my constituents, represents 30,000 square feet of training space and we want to see the government do everything possible to save it. Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Kam Lake , Mr. Ramsay .

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Human Resource Review At The North Slave Correctional Centre

Item 3: Members' Statements

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. First off, I would like to thank the Minister of Justice for finally recognizing there was a problem at North Slave Correctional Centre and acting on it.

From day one of this Assembly, some Members of this side of the House had been speaking out about human resource issues at the North Slave Correctional Centre. Low morale, high staff turnover, wrongful dismissal suits and other problems were brought to our attention, that were a result of poor management and leadership at the North Slave Correctional Centre. Repeatedly, some of us hounded the Minister of Justice to take action demanding a review. For the longest time, he refused to acknowledge that there might be some serious problems at the North Slave Correctional Centre.

On June 2nd of last year, referring to the North Slave Correctional Centre, he said, "I have every confidence that the training and supervision is adequate at the centre." On May 27th, he said, "I am satisfied that, other than the usual problems you can expect when one facility shuts down and people are moved into a new facility, there is nothing out of line there, so I don't see the need for it right now." On October 24th, he said, "I have no inside knowledge that there are problems.

I believe that the issues are being raised by individuals, and I do believe that a majority of the staff in corrections are satisfied with their jobs and the way in which the department is running." When the Minister finally conceded to an internal review, the findings pointed to far more pervasive problems than any of these statements would have led us to believe. A total of 36 recommendations to improve human resource functions came out of the review; a review that, until last June, the Minister adamantly stated was not required.

Mr. Speaker, I believe the Minister owes an apology to the employees at North Slave Correctional Centre who had the backbone to come forward with their concerns and persist, despite the department's initial refusal to even consider there might be cause for concern. Where was the leadership? I suggest it was sadly lacking, Mr. Speaker, at the political level and at the management level within the department.

Mr. Speaker, I don't understand how management could stand by and allow the working conditions and morale to deteriorate to such a state. I don't understand how a Minister could dismiss the concerns of Members and say that a review was not required in June, and yet have one take place in August. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

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Human Resource Review At The North Slave Correctional Centre

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

The Member is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Are there any nays? There are no nays. You may conclude your statement, Mr. Ramsay .

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Human Resource Review At The North Slave Correctional Centre

Item 3: Members' Statements

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to know what has happened to the employees who allowed this to happen under their watch. Are they still with this government? Mr. Speaker, I will be following up with questions at the appropriate time today. Thank you.

---Applause

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Inuvik, Twin Lakes, Mr. McLeod.

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Recognition Of Participants At The Sport North Symposium

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, on Friday, I attended a reception for coaches from across the NWT who were in town for a coaching symposium. These are highly dedicated volunteers who don't get paid and only do what they do so athletes can have the programs and proper coaching. So many times, Mr. Speaker, the people who choose to coach get flack from many different angles and many different issues. These folks do a thankless job and are volunteers. Without them, many support programs would have a hard time getting off the ground.

Many coaches feel that if they can influence the decision of one young person to make good choices and live a healthy and productive lifestyle, then everything they do is worth it.

I would like to use this opportunity in this forum to thank and acknowledge the people who sacrifice their time and try to make a difference. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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Recognition Of Participants At The Sport North Symposium

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Qualification For Homeownership

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, one of the benefits of our booming economy is that people never had a chance for many years to have year-round employment. That means people who only could work seasonally, or on and off, now have the opportunity for great paying jobs. But there are a lot of people whose economic circumstances keep them handcuffed from moving forward. Many people owe a lot of money to our local housing authorities and whatnot because of their circumstances from years before, such as unemployment and, again, seasonal work.

Mr. Speaker, now that they have jobs, in some particular cases, if they are in housing authorities, rents have drastically skyrocketed and it gives these people a very difficult chance to pay back some of these arrears. In many cases, they were not getting back the arrears. Mr. Speaker, the point that I am raising is many people can afford mortgages out there to get homes, but they need the assistance to bridge that opportunity. They cannot qualify at this time for mortgages through our NWT Housing Corporation because they owe money. Simply, they are excluded because they have owed money from before, and we are not finding ways to work with them.

Mr. Speaker, in some cases, I can assure you personally that I know that rent is higher than what they would probably pay in a mortgage. What are we doing? We need a program that is flexible that will work with the people. We need a program and a policy that will go forward to help them purchase their houses, if that is the case and the direction that they want to go and need to go. We need a program that adjusts with the times.

Mr. Speaker, if you owe money from the past to a local housing authority, you can't even get on the list to qualify for social housing. We need to find a way that helps bridge payments and opportunity together. Mr. Speaker, this government needs to do something to help assist the way arrears flow into the government because, as it stands right now, the money is not flooding in.

Mr. Speaker, let's help the people who want to help themselves. That is the bottom line. That is why we are here. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will have questions for the Minister at the appropriate time.

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Qualification For Homeownership

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for North Slave , Mr. Zoe .

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North Slave Sports Report

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Henry Zoe

North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to give the sports report from the North Slave. Mr. Speaker, I attended the Great Slave Snowmobile Association's 2nd Annual Behcho Ko Extreme Snowmobile Racing event that was held over the weekend in Rae. Unfortunately, the cross-country race from Rae to Wha Ti had to be cancelled due to weather on Sunday. However, Mr. Speaker, many other races and events did go ahead and were very successful.

The event was well attended by North Slave residents and also attracted people from Yellowknife and around the lake and, I believe, even from Alberta. Everyone had a good time and enjoyed all of the races that occurred over the weekend.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank all the sponsors, organizers and volunteers for putting together another successful event. I look forward to next year's snowmobile event again. Thank you.

---Applause

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Zoe . Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Great Slave , Mr. Braden .

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Independent Appeals Tribunal For The Workers' Compensation Board

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Bill Braden

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Workers' Compensation Board does a lot of really good work in a number of areas. It has been established with the partnership of employers and workers to help keep accident rates down. When accidents do happen, they deal with them in an effective and responsible manner.

Mr. Speaker, in the last Assembly, we changed some legislation here that would enable the Appeals Tribunal of the Workers' Compensation Board to be much more appropriately set up as a truly and, in very practical terms, an arm's length and an independent system from the regular workings of the WCB. The idea here is when an injured worker does have an issue with the decision of the regular compensation board program, that there is a process that they can trust will completely, thoroughly and independently assess the decision and the process and take action to correct it if they so find.

But, Mr. Speaker, our NWT/Nunavut Appeals Tribunal has not gone the fullest extent, I believe, in terms of establishing itself as truly independent. We still have, Mr. Speaker, an administration for the Appeals Tribunal that is, in effect, the Workers' Compensation Board administration. We still have physical offices and other such connections that are still in place. This is not appropriate.

Mr. Speaker, I note from talking with some injured workers, that when decisions are rendered by the Appeals Tribunal, they can take several months before implementation begins. Perhaps a more significant problem is that decisions, as rendered by the Appeals Tribunal, go back to the WCB; in effect, back to be implemented and sometimes interpreted by the same people who may have caused the worker to file an appeal in the first place. So there are significant issues of a legislative and an administrative and a governance role, I would suggest, Mr. Speaker, need to be addressed within our Workers' Compensation Board. Thank you.

---Applause

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Braden . Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Range Lake , Ms. Lee .

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Critical Assessment Of Ministers' Performance

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Taking off on the statements that the Members for Hay River South and Kam Lake made, I would like to say a few things that the Ministers across the floor have done that I am not happy with either.

Mr. Speaker, first, let me start with Minister Miltenberger . Thus far, he spent three years studying the Supplementary Health Benefits Program and he is asking for some more time. So many of his projects are under study. I think that we need to keep him in his job for at least 10 more years before we see any kind of results.

---Laughter

Mr. Speaker, secondly, the Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation has, thus far, not heeded any of my suggestions or outrage to revisit the second phase of the market housing initiative, even though the department has not provided any compelling evidence to suggest that we should move on to the second phase. In fact, Mr. Speaker, the Minister is actively pursuing the possibility of buying out all of the trailers that the oil companies bring up. I think he is going to change the name of NWT to NWT Trailer Park.

Mr. Speaker, thirdly, I can speak to all the nasty things that Minister Floyd Roland said in his budget about the poor people who can't get off their butts to get a job in this booming economy. I know he has been going through many briefings from the experts and the NGOs in communities to see the new light on the matter.

Mr. Speaker, Minister McLeod dared to give a permit to the Yellowknives to do a seismic study within the Yellowknife boundary, without giving a notice to the city government. For that, I think his head should roll.

Mr. Speaker, fifthly, I have made it clear how displeased I am with the way Minister Bell has created 22 new jobs in the department at a cost of almost $3 million a year, even though, for years, we have been asking for more money for the tourism industry and all sorts of things we talked about.

Mr. Speaker, I have a whole list of things to say about the Premier , but I don't have enough time today.

---Laughter

And, of course, Mr. Dent . Anyhow, for that, all the heads should roll. I understand this is a tough job and the debate will continue. I expect the Ministers to pull up their socks and do a better job. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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Critical Assessment Of Ministers' Performance

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee . Item 3, Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Kam Lake , Mr. Ramsay .

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Question 494-15(3): Human Resource Review Of North Slave Correctional Centre

Item 6: Oral Questions

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I stated earlier today, until June of last year, the Minister of Justice adamantly refused to even consider that there might be a problem with human resources at the North Slave Correctional Centre. In August, the deputy minister called for a comprehensive, independent internal review. My question for the Minister of Justice is what changed between June and August of last year to cause his 180-degree shift in position? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 494-15(3): Human Resource Review Of North Slave Correctional Centre

Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The honourable Minister of Justice , Mr. Dent .

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Question 494-15(3): Human Resource Review Of North Slave Correctional Centre

Item 6: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I previously said, the questions by the Member and by the Member for Range Lake played a

part in that. It also became clear that the issues went far beyond the usual turmoil that you would expect from moving from one facility to a new facility and a change in the model. At one time, that was what we thought was the largest part of the problem, but, when the issues persisted after the change, it became clear that we had to look deeper for what the problem might be. Thank you.

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Question 494-15(3): Human Resource Review Of North Slave Correctional Centre

Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent . Supplementary, Mr. Ramsay .

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Given the Minister was completely unaware of internal problems at the North Slave Correctional Centre, problems that have been subsequently revealed by the internal review, does the Minister now question the quality of information coming to him from his own department? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think that the department does a good job of getting the information that I need. There is no question that, in the case of the morale issues at North Slave and in human resources in the department as a whole, there was room for improvement. That has been set out in the report that was released in November. We are working to correct those issues. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Given the gross mismanagement that occurred at the North Slave Correctional Centre and the recommendations that have come out of the review, I am wondering if the Minister can tell us who was removed and where they are today. Are the individuals who were responsible for the mismanagement at the centre still working for the government today? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The human resources report suggested that there were some issues with how things could be done better. I am not sure if the report used the word mismanagement. I don't believe it did. So changes have been made. The management at the North Slave Correctional Centre has been changed. There have been private personnel changes. It is not normal for us to talk about what has happened to individuals in this House, so I will just have to say that changes have been made. Thank you.

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is clear to me that there was a dysfunctional management structure in place at the North Slave Correctional Centre, whether the Minister may want to admit to it or not. I am wondering if the Minister could, at the very least, apologize to the employees that are out at the North Slave Correctional Centre, because I believe they are owed an apology, at the very least. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the report that was completed on human resource practices in Justice clearly indicated that there were some problem areas. It is regrettable that that situation arose. I think that we have moved very quickly to deal with the issues since the report has been released. As I said, it is not a situation that I hope to see happen again. It is clearly regrettable any time that government policies and procedures are not followed and that people are not satisfied that they can get the training and support that they should. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my questions are for the Minister of Justice . I will start off today talking about an excerpt from Hansard from Friday, in unedited Hansard, with respect to Dene K'onia. Mr. Speaker, there seems to be a message being put out there to justify these cuts which I don't like the tone of, and I don't think it is presented accurately and clearly. I quote from Hansard, "Mr. Speaker, in the last few weeks, we have had one, sometimes two, young inmates there from south of the lake.

So spending $1.5 million a year for that number of inmates is not a good expenditure of taxpayers' dollars." Mr. Speaker, anybody reading this or listening to this would be led to think that the Minister is suggesting that we are spending $1.5 million a year on the one or two inmates from south of the lake. In fact, that is not true. I would like to ask the Minister, isn't it actually true that the Dene K'onia has been at or near capacity for the last year? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think that I, also in Hansard, did agree to that. That was the situation when the Member asked the question on Friday. I would have to review Hansard. But I did say that what we have done, since March of last year, is put all of our young offender inmates into Dene K'onia. So, yes, Dene K'onia has been operating at greater than one or two capacity. However, one of the arguments that has been advanced for us to consider keeping Dene K'onia open is to keep clients close to their families.

If we were to take that same argument for families who are not from that region, then we would have to keep them in the Yellowknife facility. We have a situation where we have two facilities right now. We can save more money if we close down Dene K'onia. It is simply a matter of economics. It has nothing to do with numbers or usage. It is a matter of where we can save the most money. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in trying to portray this to the public and to the Members of this House and even to his fellow Members of Cabinet, because I have an excerpt here of the Premier . I don't fault the Premier for saying this, but this is all any of us were ever hearing. But in front of the Dene Nation, the

chiefs on the Hay River Reserve, at a recent meeting even the Premier joins in the same song as the Justice Minister and says, "So we have a situation where there are 22 staff looking after, I believe, today, there is only one person from the South Slave in that institution. I might be wrong. It changes a bit day to day." This message creates a picture of 22 people in an institution at $1.5 million a year looking after one kid. It is an incorrect picture. It is done in order to justify this reduction. Mr.

Speaker, I would like to ask the Minister of Justice if, in fact, every justice system facility you have here in the Northwest Territories does not collect or receive residents or inmates or clients territory-wide. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would note that the quote that the Member provided did note the resident was from the South Slave. Again, it comes from the issue of keeping clients close to home. That is why that number or that reference has been used on a regular basis. Do we have clients in all of our facilities from all across the Territories? The answer is yes, we do.

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So, Mr. Speaker, I hope the Minister would agree that it would make sense, in terms of us trying to defend our facilities to bring up the issue of, where possible, keeping clients close to the home communities and close to their families. We bring that up as a means of defending our position, but it isn't the only consideration. So I think that the Minister has put out this picture again, may I say, of 22 people looking after one kid and yet they add south of the lake as a little caveat onto the issue. But the Minister has put out an incorrect picture. On that subject, Mr.

Speaker, wouldn't the Minister concur that it would be optimum to keep clients close to their homes, close to their families and close to their communities? Thank you.

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'll answer Mrs. Groenewegen 's second question. Yes, it is always better to keep the clients as close to their families as possible. We will endeavour to do that in the future. But the bottom line is that we have two facilities in operation in the Northwest Territories for young males. By closing one of them, we can accommodate all of the young males that we have in custody, and we can save a significant amount of money. That is what this is all about. Thank you.

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am glad that we are getting to what this is all about, because this is not about 22 people looking after one young offender south of the lake at the cost of $1.5 million a year. This is about taking a service territory-wide that was delivered in Hay River and moving it to Yellowknife. Isn't that the correct truth? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Not exactly. We had been operating two facilities for the Territories, but, as a cost-savings measure, we tried not operating the one in the North Slave for a while and discovered that we can't save nearly as much money as we can if we shut the one down in Hay River. As I said, the issue of where the clients came from isn't something that was raised by the department when the issue was put before the standing committee and the business plans. Where the clients came from was not talked about as part of the justification in the initial incidence.

That has been talked about only since it became an issue, after it became publicly known that the facility was slated for closure. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, earlier today, I mentioned the issue of people who have arrears with the Housing Corporation and have difficulty paying off their debts right away and then they find it a difficult situation where they are not eligible for Housing Corporation programs. Mr. Speaker, my question for the Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation is what ways is he going to address the need that those people who can help themselves are able to help themselves? In what way will we have a policy that addresses the time and that need? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we do have processes in place to assist people with arrears. You can work out a payment plan with the local housing authority to come in and say you are willing to pay down your arrears over a period of time; make biweekly payments or monthly payments. Out of that arrangement, then your name can get back on the list for public housing, but you have to sign an agreement committing yourself to pay down those arrears. I think the whole policy we have in the government, or since I got in as a Minister, is that we have to bring down those arrears that are out there. The majority of our LHOs have a 90

percent rate in ensuring that they collect those rents. The majority of our local authorities are doing that. But, again, there are options there for people with arrears to work out a payment plan with the local housing authorities so that they can get back into public housing.

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To be very specific, when the Minister says pay back those arrears in conjunction with dealing with the housing authorities on the local level, do they still qualify for housing while they still have outstanding arrears regardless if a payment program happens? As I understand it, they are excluded from public housing until those arrears are completely cleared away. Could the Minister explain that? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the idea is that in order to get into public housing, you must not have arrears. The idea is, through this payback plan, to make sure that people who have been evicted because of not paying their arrears can come back to the local authority and work out a payment plan to pay off those arrears. Then their name will be put back on the list for public housing. Again, you have to remember that we have a lot of people on the waiting list to get into public housing. So you can't jump the queue because you got evicted and then come back.

You basically have to wait until your name is put back on that list. The whole idea is to have a fair housing program in which we have to accommodate our social clients. Again, we do have programs and policies there to assist people, such as I mentioned in regard to the payment plan. Thank you.

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the clear answer from the Minister on that particular case, but what the Minister has basically described is if we have a family at risk and they owe money in arrears, I can't see it any other way. How do they make a payment plan when they have no money? The other thing is if you have no money and you can't make a payment plan, where are you to go? Social housing is to be there for those people who fall in that bracket of nowhere to go. We have people in jeopardy who are at risk.

Will the Minister agree that, at this time, he could look into a policy that can address this social housing need to get these folks off the street or are in at-risk situations and build that in such a way that we can say, okay, welcome to social housing, but you have to be on a payment plan? Will he look at a policy that deals with that problem? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we do have programs by way of income support. If you are talking about clients who are in need of support, we do have support mechanisms in place. But, again, I have to point out to the Member that the whole idea of social housing is that we have been given direction that we have to do better in collecting our arrears that are out there, and bringing down those percentages. Like I said, we have a base set for local housing authorities. We expect them to collect 90 percent of the arrears. They are doing that.

But, again, we do have policies in place to get people back in housing, and we do fund other social agencies in regard to the transitional housing here in Yellowknife. We do have other programs that are there to help people. I would just like to point out to the Member that we have to be fair to all of our clients. We cannot do one thing and force people to pay their arrears but, on the other hand, leave an open door. So we do have these policies. There is income support to assist people by way of social programs that we have. Thank you.

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think what we have heard is government at work at its finest. One hand of the government is paying the other hand of the government, and we are no further ahead. So people who have arrears we're allowing income support, I think as I understood it, to pay their housing arrears. At that point, I am really lost. Why are we bothering with the administrative work then, if that is what the Minister was trying to say? I applaud his effort by his saying that we are going to try to deal with arrears.

I applaud that effort, but if you don't have anything and you are asking to pay something and you have nothing to give, well, at the end of the day, we have nothing. These folks are struggling out there. We need a policy that clearly says if you owe money, you can still qualify for social housing. But to get social housing, you have to engage in an active payment program plan. We don't have a policy that addresses that. You clearly said earlier that you have to pay off your arrears before you qualify for social housing. So there's a problem. Will he address that problem? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, again, we do have programs there to assist people. If they did have arrears, they come into the local housing authority and meet with the counsellor at the office and say I would like to get back into social housing, I know I have arrears. By showing commitment by that person, by signing a payment plan and saying okay, I agree to pay down my arrears...I know it is not going to happen overnight. It can happen over two years or four years, but at least make the attempt to come in and make that commitment. That's all we ask.

We ask for them to make the commitment, because it's not fair to our other tenants who are making their payments and are in good standing. But in order to be evicted and not pay your arrears means you have an outstanding debt you did not pay. So there is that program to ensure they get back in. But again, if the Member would like to talk to me about this individual, I would like to sit down and explain to him or sit down with the local housing authority to work with this former client to get them back into social housing. Again, they have to make that commitment. Thank you.

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Bill Braden

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions this afternoon are for the Minister responsible for the Workers' Compensation Board, Mr. Krutko , in relation to my Member's statement regarding the independence of the Appeals Tribunal process from the Workers' Compensation Board itself. Mr. Speaker, does the Appeals Tribunal still, indeed, have administrative and staffing links to the WCB workings? Thank you very much.

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we still do have a system where the board basically deals with a person's appeal. A decision is made and if they don't like the decision, they appeal it. It can be appealed by the individual through the Appeals Tribunal, but there is still some management link just by way of administration in that corporation to oversee the process.

Again, we are looking under phase two to allow the clarity and identify the transparencies so we have that independency, because there have been overlaps in regard to how appeals have been handled, but also how the Workers' Compensation Board responded to those appeals. Again, we are working through that by the second phase of the legislation. Once we bring forward the second phase of the legislation, hopefully we can have more transparency to separate the independence of these two boards. Thank you.

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Bill Braden

Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, so there are still legislative changes; we still have work to do on the floor of this Assembly in order to enable this to really take hold. To what extent, Mr. Speaker, are we connected with our colleagues in Nunavut in order to enable this to happen, and is the Minister's counterpart in Nunavut onside with this and working collaboratively to help this happen? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it's critical that we continue to work with our colleagues in the East because we do share the same Workers' Compensation Board. I met with my counterpart on January 25th in Iqaluit, where we went over looking at the draft legislation for phase two. We have raised concerns in regard to transparency, but also to look at how we are trying to expand our authority. We have appointed an active position in Iqaluit to work with the workers' advisor. So the workers' advisor here in Yellowknife now has someone he can work with in Iqaluit. So we have developed that position.

So those are the types of transitional processes we're working on. Again, I have been working with my counterpart in Nunavut to ensure that we are both online with these amendments to this legislation. So we will be bringing forward collectively and allow both legislatures to have an open debate on those changes. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm sure the workers in Nunavut will be very pleased to know that they have a counterpart to the workers' advisor here. Mr. Speaker, are there significant costs and staffing issues related to creating this more independent group, and is that seen as a difficulty or a barrier in establishing this independence? Thank you.

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, one of the key components of how we work together is the membership we have on our different boards. Two members are appointed to the Workers' Compensation Board, but we also have members on the Appeals Tribunal who are now from Nunavut, which they are still requesting more representation on those bodies. I think by ensuring we have people on these boards from Nunavut, is basically to ensure they have input in regard to how these appeals happen.

So we are working to ensure that we have more involvement from people from Nunavut by having a board that's basically made up of representatives from the East. So again, that's one of the things we're working on, is to have a balance between the representation of that board and also ensuring we have a voice from both territories.

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Bill Braden

Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, one of the significant challenges or problems that injured workers encountered in the last few years, at least, was the backlog of cases before the Appeals Tribunal. How are we doing in that neighbourhood today, Mr. Speaker? Perhaps more specifically, how many cases are before the Appeals

Tribunal today and what is the average turnover or turnaround in waiting times for those appeals? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, from the information that I've seen, the appeals, in a number of cases, have gone down in the past number of years. Because it's such an open-ended question, I'll take it as notice and get that information to the Member so that we can get some clearer percentages and numbers that are accurate. Thank you.

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Today my question is for the Minister of Justice . I believe the coroner falls under his domain. I'd just like to ask what our role is in the government for our coroners. What structure does the coroner have within the Department of Justice? Thank you.

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The coroner is a contractor who is hired by the Department of Justice and operates in an office out of a building in downtown Yellowknife. He is assisted in his work by volunteer coroners across the Northwest Territories and in all communities. Thank you.

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Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I am just wondering if the Minister can tell me if we have coroners or helpers in the communities and what role they play in the coroner's office. Thank you.

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The coroners in the communities play an extremely important role. We have coroners in most of the communities in the Northwest Territories and I said they work as volunteers because their pay is about $150 a body. In effect, for the amount of work that they do, which on average is about 25 hours a case, that amounts to a volunteer position and it's something that we are looking to right now on whether or not it needs to be revised. But the coroners will investigate an accidental death.

They will make recommendations if there's a need for regulation changes or safety issues that need to be dealt with. They often go above and beyond what their expected duties are, Mr. Speaker, by helping families deal with bodies. That really is outside the scope of their job, but many do the work of what would otherwise be seen as an undertaker. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Nahendeh

I'd like to thank the Minister for that answer and I'd like to say hello and thank you to all the unsung heroes out in the communities being volunteer coroners. They do fulfill a meaningful role in society as a whole, Mr. Speaker. It's something they are doing out there that's not learned; it's a particular skill set that makes a person a coroner. However, I understand what learning they do need, Mr. Speaker, is that our department may cut that out. They may cut out some coroner training. Can I get an answer on that from the Minister, please?

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When I met with the coroners at their recent training session about two weeks ago, the question was raised and I had to admit to the coroners that in the budget that's before the House right now, the money for their training session is not included. But I did commit to them that I was confident that before the end of the fiscal year, I would be able to find the funds to make sure that that training is offered. That is the commitment that I intend to stand by.

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm very happy to hear that commitment from the Minister because, indeed, like I said, it's an unsung hero's position in the communities. Would this commitment include, did the Minister say, a training position, Mr. Speaker? Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The issue of training has been discussed with the chief coroner. What we will endeavour to do is to work with the chief coroner and make sure that a training session can be offered for the community coroners in the course of the next year, just as we've done this year. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 499-15(3): Details Of The National Childcare Program

Item 6: Oral Questions

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is for Minister Dent in his responsibility as the Minister responsible for day care programs. I've asked a lot of questions in the past pre-federal budget about the details of this National Childcare Program and the Minister was waiting to see what was going to be included in the budget. So in light of the budget having been delivered, could the Minister report to the House as to what that means for us in the Territories? Thank you.

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Thank you, Ms. Lee . The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Dent .

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Right now it's a bit of a good news/bad news situation. The good news is that the federal government did commit $5 billion to early learning and childcare. The bad news is that they only committed the first year on a per capita basis. That's $700 million across Canada. So that means to us a very small portion of money and it's going to be a challenge for us to live up to the expectations of the public, given the expectations set by the federal government. We're going to have to examine whether or not it's intended that this agreement be on a per capita basis through its life.

If it is, then there will be some discussion between the three territories about whether or not this national vision stops at the 60th parallel. Because if the national vision of Canada stops at the 60th parallel, we may not be in a position to sign onto this deal. Thank you.

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my understanding was that it was already suggested that the funding was on a per capita basis, but perhaps there is room yet to negotiate and decide. If that's the case, could the Minister indicate what he's doing to advance our territory's position to make a difference in this formula? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We're hanging our hopes on the wording of the detail to the budget, which says that for the first year and until the framework is signed off that the funding will be distributed on a per capita basis. We are going to keep after the federal government to find out if that means in years two, three, four and five that the funding formula could be different. I was supposed to have a conversation with Minister Dryden yesterday but, unfortunately, we didn't connect. My staff are working at setting up another conversation where we can follow through on that.

Our deputies have spoken in the past week by phone and we think that we have some support for a base funding plus per capita distribution in most jurisdictions, but Ontario remains totally opposed to that. So we are going to keep pushing the issue with the federal government and with our partners across Canada. As I said, we will decide in discussion with our territorial colleagues whether or not this really is a deal that we can sign onto. Thank you.

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it sounds like there are lots and lots of details to this deal that still need to be worked out. I understand that the Minister has been working on a draft memorandum of understanding or some kind of agreement between all of the Ministers. Could I ask the Minister about the time frame of this? Now that the budget has been delivered, are we to expect details to be worked out within the next two weeks or three weeks and whether or not the funding formula is the only point of dispute at this stage? Thank you.

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. For the Northwest Territories, the funding formula is the area of contention. The other areas we are satisfied with. There are provinces that have some difficulty with some of the issues, but, by and large, we can live with the agreement the way it is structured now. But we are not satisfied at all with the funding. Thank you.

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could the Minister indicate more about the path for the NWT or the jurisdictions north of 60 who are not happy? For the governments in the North who are not happy with what is happening, what are we to do? What is the Minister planning on doing, other than talking to Mr. Dryden? Are there any other things planned to make sure that we get our bigger share of the announcement? Thank you.

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As the Member has pointed out, yes, I'm going to follow up quite aggressively with the federal Minister. The three territorial Ministers talk on a regular basis about strategy. We have all agreed that our Premiers need to discuss this issue and it's on the agenda for the Premiers' meeting next month. I have spoken to Premier Handley about perhaps taking this issue to the Prime Minister, because I think that it's something that if we can't get passed it, there's a real problem with expectation. The people of Canada expect that we're going to be able to have a similar sort of situation all across Canada when it comes to early

learning and childcare, but if our funding is only based on per capita, then the North isn't participating on an equitable basis.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent . Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes , Mr. McLeod.

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question today is for the Minister of RWED . I'd like to ask the Minister if he agrees that the Beaufort-Delta is the anchor field for the oil and gas industry. Thank you.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Minister of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development , Mr. Bell .

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Brendan Bell

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In terms of the Mackenzie gas project, there are three fields that we refer to as anchor fields that really have justified the project in the eyes of producers: Parsons Lake, Niglintgak, and Taglu. But I think what you'll see, and we're starting to see this now in the Sahtu region, a lot of exploration and some potential development on the horizon. We have other oil and gas exploration and development and gas flowing south of 60 from the Cameron Hills. So there are other pockets of activity.

Our expectation is that once this pipeline, this conduit to market is built, we'll see exploration all up and down the valley. Right now in terms of the known quantity, not taking into account potential offshore, the three anchor fields in the Member's riding are what's really underpinning the economics of this project. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

I'll thank the Minister for that and if he thinks that the Beaufort-Delta is the anchor field for now, then why is there not an oil and gas division office located there? Thank you.

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Yellowknife South

Thank you. I think the Member has certainly hit on a point that I think many, many agree with, and that is that as a government we're challenged and we don't have adequate resources to deal with the scale, at this point, of oil and gas development now and certainly not going forward, and that's something that we have to come to grips with. I've asked my department to go back and come to me with several options for more adequately resourcing the department in terms of positions up and down the valley. I think the Inuvik area is obvious, but so are positions required, I believe, or an approach required in Norman Wells and in Simpson, certainly from those regions. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister if he would commit to his visiting the possibility of moving the office to Inuvik where it rightfully belongs. Thanks a lot.

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Brendan Bell

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I guess I'm a little unclear as to whether or not the Member is referring to the minerals, oil and gas division. We've had some discussion in and around that. I know the mayor has raised that in correspondence with me. I've made the point that there's a lot to minerals, oil and gas that is outside the realm of oil and gas and much of it does a lot of work with the Geoscience Centre here in Yellowknife, and has broad responsibility for the entire territory across a number of different areas.

So, no, I'm not entertaining moving the minerals, oil and gas division to Inuvik, and I'm not entertaining moving the MVPO to Inuvik. I am entertaining looking at options for more adequately resourcing oil and gas development in the entire valley, and that includes Inuvik. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I was speaking more specifically to the oil and gas division of the minerals, oil and gas office. The minerals office you can keep here, but the minerals, oil and gas office I would like to see moved to the Beaufort-Delta. Now is the Minister going to look at that? Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think what you'd find if you looked a little bit closely at our minerals, oil and gas division is that there aren't very many people in that division and you have one director who, for instance, shares a number of different responsibilities across minerals, oil and gas. So it would be difficult to take one director and carve that person up and move half of them one way and keep another half of them in another area. I think the real answer here and the real issue is our vastly limited resources here and the potential that we see on the horizon.

Do we need to create an approach and positions for the Inuvik area, as well as Norman Wells and Simpson? I believe we do and that's why I've asked the department to go back and present me with options that I can then take to Regular Members and to Cabinet and see if we can't find a way to fund those, because we are under-resourced. We are under-resourced in the Inuvik area as well, and I'm looking to deal with that. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you, Mr. Bell . Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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