Debates of March 8th, 1995

This is page numbers 521 - 547 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 7th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was housing .

Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

International Women's Day

Prospectors' And Developers' Conference

Review Of Student Accommodation

Early Childhood Program

International Women's Day And Appreciation Of Mrs. Lewis

International Women's Day

Susan Toolooktook's Walk Of Love

Reorganization Of Heritage Canada In Nwt

International Women's Day

Winter Roads In Nahendeh

International Women's Day And Mrs. Ningark

International Women's Day

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Status Of Affirmative Action Review Committee

Use Of Tabled Document 51-12(7) To Inform Tenants Of Rent Adjustments

Designation Of Form Entitled "rent Change Notice"

Extension Of Date For Closure Of Winter Roads

Inuktitut Translation Of Rent Change Notice Misleading

Distribution Of Premier's Speech

Rental Increases Regardless Of Misleading Inuktitut Translation

Status Of Staffing Justice Of The Peace Trainer Position

Number Of Pys At Housing Corporation

Make-up Of Affirmative Action Review Committee

Extension For Unilingual Tenants Re Rent Increase

Number Of Pys At Housing Corporation

Polar Bear Management

Employees' Awareness Of GNWT Vehicle Restrictions

Improvements To Highway System

Written Question 15-12(7): List Of Purchases Made By Dpw Local Garage In Fort Smith

Written Question 16-12(7): Maintenance And Closure Of Winter Roads In Nahendeh

Return To Written Question 6-12(7): Notice Of Development Of High School Program And Reduction Of Services

Return To Written Question 14-12(7): Review Of Arctic College Environmental And Renewable Resources Technology Program

Return To Written Question 5-12(7): Arctic College Base Funding

Return To Written Question 8-12(7): Protection From Rental Increases For Public Housing Tenants

Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

Invitation To Department Of Heritage Canada Officials To Appear Before The Legislative Assembly Of The NWT To Respond To Concerns

Item 15: Notices Of Motions For First Reading Of Bills

Bill 20: Loan Authorization Act, 1995-96

Bill 21: Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1994-95

Bill 22: Forgiveness Of Debts Act, 1994-95

Bill 23: Write-off Of Debts Act, 1994-95

Bill 24: Community Employees' Benefits Act

Bill 25: Education Act

Bill 26:

An Act To Amend The Jury Act

Bill 27:

An Act To Amend The Land Titles Act

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Bill 17:

An Act To Amend The Nursing Profession Act

Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Item 22: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Mr. Allooloo , Mr. Antoine , Hon. Silas Arngna'naaq , Hon. Nellie Cournoyea , Hon. Samuel Gargan , Hon. Stephen Kakfwi , Mr. Koe , Mr. Lewis , Mrs. Marie-Jewell , Ms. Mike , Hon. Don Morin , Hon. Richard Nerysoo , Hon. Kelvin Ng , Mr. Ningark , Mr. Patterson , Hon. John Pollard , Mr. Pudluk , Hon. John Todd , Mr. Whitford

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Good afternoon. I would like to advise the House that I have received the following communication from the Commissioner.

"Dear Mr. Speaker: I wish to advise that I recommend to the Legislative Assembly of the Northwest Territories the passage of Bill 21, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1994-95, during the Seventh Session of the 12th Legislative Assembly. Yours truly, Helen Maksagak, Commissioner."

---Applause

Item 2, Ministers' statements. Ms. Cournoyea .

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Minister's Statement 33-12(7): International Women's Day

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, today is International Women's Day. It is a day for women and men throughout the world to recognize and celebrate the contributions women have made to society.

---Applause

In the Northwest Territories, women continue to play a strong role in identifying issues and in shaping the social, economic and political directions that are being taken at the community and territorial levels.

They have been the starting point of many new initiatives in the Northwest Territories such as the zero tolerance strategy, the community wellness strategy, the fight against all forms of violence and abuse, and steps being taken to improve support systems for men and women in need.

Mr. Speaker, the role of women in the north has been that of a catalyst for change. At the same time, they continue to provide and encourage the kind of support needed to make sure family units and values remain strong in a rapid period of change and competing interests.

Northern women, whether they are involved in traditional pursuits or the wage economy, are helping to make a difference in today's world. There is still a long way to go and many challenges to be faced. But, I am confident that women in the north will continue to help make sure that all individuals have the opportunity to live a life of honour and dignity.

In conclusion, Mr. Speaker, I would like to remind Members of the special ceremony that will take place in the great hall, during the afternoon break, to celebrate International Women's Day and the launching of a new reference manual developed by the Status of Women Council. Thank you.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Item 2, Ministers' statements. Ms. Cournoyea .

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Minister's Statement 34-12(7): Prospectors' And Developers' Conference

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, one of the biggest challenges in the Northwest Territories is finding ways to become more self-sufficient and less dependent on the federal government.

With Ottawa's plans to cut $50 million out of our transfer payment next year, it is important to move very quickly to finalize a northern energy and minerals accord so that we can control the development of a more vibrant economy that will provide the revenues to support education, health care, housing and social problems for our rapidly growing population.

In addition, we have to work in partnership with industry and aboriginal organizations to develop mineral resources in a manner that puts the land to work for us to create jobs, business opportunities and revenues.

Those are some of the messages I presented during a speech to about 400 delegates attending a banquet at the annual Prospectors' and Developers' Association of Canada Conference in Toronto Monday night.

I also told the audience that northerners want to be self-sufficient and they want the respect and dignity that comes from being full and equal partners, contributing to the growth of Canada.

It was encouraging to see the industry's recognition of the north at this conference, as well as the active participation of a large contingent from the Northwest Territories that included: Energy Minister , John Todd ; Nunatsiaq MP, Jack Anawak; representatives from the city of Yellowknife, town of Hay River, Nunavut Tunngavik Incorporated; the Dogrib Tribal Council and, of course, our own Susan Aglukark who provided the entertainment.

Representatives from the Legislative Assembly included Henry Zoe , Mike Ballantyne and Charles Dent .

Mr. Speaker, it is becoming increasingly important for the Northwest Territories to be represented at events such as this, in order for us to get our message to leading investors and developers.

Mining generates more value per capita in the Northwest Territories than any other province or territory, and the government is anxious to develop the economic potential of this sector in an environmentally sound and culturally sensitive way that will benefit all residents of the territories. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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Minister's Statement 34-12(7): Prospectors' And Developers' Conference

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Nerysoo .

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Minister's Statement 35-12(7): Review Of Student Accommodation

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to advise the Members of this Assembly that the reviews of student accommodation in the Baffin, Keewatin and Beaufort/Delta Divisional Boards of Education have been completed.

Copies of the reports have been sent to the divisional boards and the MLAs representing those jurisdictions. If other Members of the Assembly are interested in the reviews, I would be pleased to supply them with copies of the reports.

Mr. Speaker, Avery Cooper Consulting have done a good job concluding such a sensitive project. They have provided reasonable short and longer-term options for the future use of Grollier Hall in Inuvik, Kivalliq Hall in Rankin Inlet, and Ukiivik Residence in Iqaluit.

During the next few weeks, my staff will be working closely with the administration staff of the Baffin, Keewatin and Beaufort/Delta Divisional Boards of Education. They will review the implications of the reports, with the objective of determining acceptable interim solutions for the 1995-96 academic year. These solutions will be recommended to my office for approval. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 35-12(7): Review Of Student Accommodation

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Nerysoo .

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Minister's Statement 36-12(7): Early Childhood Program

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, a few days ago, I spoke about the importance of early childhood development and some of the successful programs that are available to children in the Northwest Territories. Today, I would like to bring you up to date on the early childhood programs, which play an important role in improving access to quality child care in the Northwest Territories.

Since the former child day care program was transferred to Education, Culture and Employment, my staff have been consulting closely with stakeholders to determine how to improve the quality and number of early childhood programs in the Northwest Territories, and how to improve access by supporting parents and people who operate programs. This consultation included a symposium held in the fall of 1993, which brought together more than 80 people from communities across the Northwest Territories working in the field of child care and early childhood education.

On the strength of this consultation, a number of changes were made to the early childhood program, effective September 1st of last year.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to point out that contributions to assist with the start-up costs of early childhood programs have been enhanced to promote more openings in the communities for infants and children requiring additional support. As well, this contribution is now available to assist with the start-up of part-time and after school programs.

Contributions supporting the ongoing costs of operating early childhood programs are also enhanced. More funding is now available for programs which provide for early intervention and the development of infants and children with special needs, as well as for those which operate part-time and after school programs. The contributions are being made quarterly and in advance, based on anticipated child attendance.

Research has shown that post-secondary training in early childhood development for care providers plays an important role in providing quality services to children. Our next challenge is to increase the qualifications of early childhood workers in the Northwest Territories and to assist facilities in hiring qualified staff.

Further consultations with stakeholders will deal with these questions and with planning a comprehensive and community-based training program for child care providers, which will be available across the Northwest Territories.

Child care services play an important role in supporting parents as they prepare for and participate in the labour force. The user subsidy, available to assist parents in accessing early childhood programs, has now been expanded to include parents who are employed or training part-time and require part-time child care. This assistance is also available to parents who are not employed or involved in training, but whose children are at risk and would benefit from a program of early intervention.

The user subsidy is now based on a needs assessment which helps to ensure that families will be treated more equitably according to their needs and the cost of child care. This year, 312 families are receiving the child care user subsidy, an increase from 298 in 1993-94 and 140 in 1992-93. We anticipate approval of many more before the end of this month.

Mr. Speaker, while parents have the primary responsibility for child care, we also understand that access to child care services is essential for northerners to work or take education and training programs. The changes to the early childhood program are a step in this direction, and Education, Culture and Employment have received predominantly favourable responses to the changes since they came into effect.

The department is also collaborating with the federal government on early childhood initiatives so that Brighter Futures and the Aboriginal Headstart initiative, which will be announced April 1st, complement similar programs.

Mr. Speaker, to help mark Education Week, department staff have sent a package of information on the early childhood program to all licensed child care programs, all College East and West campuses, all community learning centres, principals of schools with grade extensions, and women's organizations. The information will also be sent to community health representatives and nursing stations. I will be distributing a similar information package to all Members of this Assembly.

Posters about the importance of parents reading to young children have been sent to all kindergarten students, as well as all licensed preschool programs.

The department staff will also continue to consult with interest groups and those directly involved in providing child day care services as the early childhood program evolves and improves so that it better meets the needs of northerners. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 36-12(7): Early Childhood Program

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Lewis .

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International Women's Day And Appreciation Of Mrs. Lewis

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is International Women's Day. For 32 years, Mr. Speaker, my wife, Della, and I have been residents of the Northwest Territories. We were married on August 3, 1963, one month before we went to Baffin Island.

It wasn't until I married, Mr. Speaker, that I fully realized what civilization really meant. I suspected that many women belonged to a different culture, to the jock male culture that I was most familiar with. In my young bachelor days, Mr. Speaker, I never seemed to have a home, it was more like camping. My wife, Della, changed all that. Order was brought to my life and a sense of purpose. It struck me in the early years of my marriage that women were really the architects of our civilization, and it made me approach my understanding of history in a completely different way.

They provide the basis for settlement and stability, they're the strongest voices in our society against injustice, abuse and intolerance.

Mr. Speaker, as we celebrate International Women's Day, all I feel I can do is talk about my personal experience living in harmony with a clever, talented, hard-working, strong woman. This month, my wife, Della, will retire after spending the past 18 years at the Abe Miller Centre. The work was demanding, the wages modest, but for so many working for non-government agencies, it has been a battle to obtain sufficient funds to keep this vital social service alive. It's a different world to the public service where you don't have to do fund raising to help cover the costs of wages and programs.

Through her, although I'm a person elected to serve, I've learned the true value of community service. She has served without complaint, without expectation of recognition or reward. In thanking her today, I thank all women who are really the true architects of our communities and our civilization.

If the government wants to do one thing to recognize women, it would be to address the obvious inadequacies in the wages many women receive for the often demanding work they take on. It's a systemic problem, Mr. Speaker, which perhaps can't be solved overnight.

I would like to seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

The Member for Yellowknife Centre is seeking unanimous consent. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Please proceed, Mr. Lewis .

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, colleagues, very much. Mr. Speaker, this is a systemic problem and I know that you can't solve huge problems overnight. But, we should at least make some start on this because it is very often women who end up working for all kinds of social causes, either in the private sector, in the public sector and even for non-government agencies. I know it's too late to help my wife and her colleague, Joyce Williams, who will also retire from the Abe Miller Centre this month. These are both professionally-trained people and I know that both Joyce and my wife would echo the sentiments I am giving you today. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Lewis . Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Koe .

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International Women's Day

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I, too, would like to acknowledge International Woman's Day. Women are often the unrecognized leaders in our communities and are the backbone of most community and volunteer organizations. We, in this House, have supported a lot of their initiatives, especially in combatting health and social services issues.

We have dealt with family violence, alcohol and drug abuse issues, care for the aged, handicapped and disabled, and many other issues, maybe not to the satisfaction of a lot of people, but I believe that the initiatives we have worked on in this House, and some of the studies done by Members of this Assembly, are helping to address the issues raised by women's organizations.

Today, I would just like to wish all the women of the Northwest Territories and across the world the best of luck in all the things that they do. Mahsi.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Arngna'naaq .

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Susan Toolooktook's Walk Of Love

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Silas Arngna'naaq

Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I, too, would like to make a comment on this day. I would like to recognize the efforts of one woman from the

community of Baker Lake. On February 14, 1992, I rose in this House to commend Susan Toolooktook on her walk of love from Baker Lake to Sugarloaf Mountain or Nauhaaq. This 50-mile walk was to draw attention to the plight of, and raise money for, poverty-stricken local families and resulted in the creation of a food bank in Baker Lake.

Today, I rise in this House to commend the NWT Status of Women for selecting Susan Toolooktook as the 1994-95 eastern Arctic recipient of their wise woman award. This award, first given in 1991-92, was created to recognize and celebrate women who have made a significant contribution to the lives of others in their communities. Mr. Speaker, I would just like to give notice that Susan, to this day, has continued to work in the community of Baker Lake in trying to help those who are incapable of helping themselves. Susan is also the mother of a child who is now of age to work and who is making a significant contribution to the community.

Mr. Speaker, Susan Toolooktook has shown unprecedented dedication to the needy in Baker Lake and she should be celebrated as a fine role model for young Inuit. Congratulations to Susan, and thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Patterson .

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Reorganization Of Heritage Canada In Nwt

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, parks and tourism provide very important economic opportunities in the Baffin and in Nunavut. For many Inuit, parks are also seen as an opportunity to preserve and protect the land while respecting traditional Inuit activities, including subsistence hunting.

New parks and planned parks were established in Nunavut, with the consent and support of adjacent communities and Inuit organizations. Indeed, I believe, having been involved in the land claims negotiations as part of the Government of the Northwest Territories, that the land claims settlement of the Inuit of Nunavut was predicated on existing park reserves and new parks being established in the settlement area.

Land selection by Inuit was based on reliance on Heritage Canada's commitment to support and maintain existing and future parks in Nunavut. Soon, in fact, the Nunavut impact and benefit review process will begin, with the aim of establishing the present park reserves as permanent national parks.

Mr. Speaker, recently, Heritage Canada officials provided information about a reorganization of Heritage Canada in the Northwest Territories. Many of my constituents were alarmed about this. They were concerned that the recently vacated position of Nunavut parks superintendent, at least temporarily, will not be restaffed. Of even more concern was the planned relocation of the Nunavut land claims implementation coordinator for Heritage Canada from Iqaluit, out of Nunavut, to Yellowknife. Nothing against Yellowknife, Mr.

Speaker, but it seems to my constituents -- and as well to Jose Kusugak, president of Nunavut Tunngavik -- that the person responsible for implementing parks provisions in the Nunavut land claim should live and work in Nunavut.

I request consent to briefly conclude my statement, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

The Member for Iqaluit is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Please proceed, Mr. Patterson .

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'm pleased to rise today to inform Members of this House that our concerns were heard and heeded. I was just informed this morning by Ms. Josie Weninger, who is acting director in the Northwest Territories of Heritage Canada, that it has been determined that the position of Nunavut land claims implementation coordinator will remain in Nunavut.

Mr. Speaker, Iqaluit's loss, however, is Pangnirtung's gain. I understand the plan is to relocate the position to Pangnirtung, which is in Nunavut. I'm delighted that this decision has been made. So, Mr. Speaker, I wish to commend the officials of Heritage Canada for heeding the concerns expressed by many of my constituents and others.

I wish to say that later in this session, I will be taking steps, which I hope will allow Canadian Heritage officials to be accountable to Members of this House for further explaining their plans for reorganizing and changes in an area that has important impacts on the people of the Northwest Territories. So I am grateful for this decision and look forward to further consultation on planned changes in the north that might affect our constituents. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Ms. Mike .

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International Women's Day

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to make a statement today because it is International Women's Day. I also want to say to this House Inuit women have worked along side their men, historically. I believe we still have a number of those families who still work as partners.

However, there are a few very touchy issues. If we are to effectively implement strategies such as zero tolerance, community wellness and the fight against all forms of violence and abuse, as our Premier stated, we will have to begin here in our House.

---Applause

Mr. Speaker, I can only say from my own experience that I cannot help but notice that when I got a Cabinet portfolio, it wasn't even two hours before I was being asked questions in the House during question period. Kindly, the Premier took the questions herself.

Since I stepped down, Mr. Speaker, I cannot help but notice Mr. Ng , who is now Minister of MACA, has had hardly any questions posed to him. That really makes me wonder. Is it because he is a man? Did I get more questions because I was a woman?

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Some Hon. Members

Nay, nay.

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

During the time I had the Cabinet portfolio, Mr. Speaker...I seek unanimous consent to continue my statement.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

The Member for Baffin Central is seeking unanimous consent to complete her statement. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Please proceed, Ms. Mike .

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. During the time I had the Cabinet portfolio, when I travelled to the communities outside my constituency, I had many women come up to me and say they are giving you a hard time because you are a woman. I would like to thank those women who, without being told, recognized that. I would also like to thank my constituents for having treated me as equally as they treat men. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good afternoon. I, too, would like to add my comments to salute International Women's Day. I look forward to the events that are going to take place at the great hall later this afternoon to help us celebrate International Women's Day.

There isn't a day that goes by that we don't hear in the news or read in the newspaper, special events that are taking place across the world and in our territory that put forward the great achievements that women do make in the areas of commerce, industry, entertainment, research, medicine and sports, to name a few.

We have women in every walk of life who affect our lives daily and who are to be looked at as role models and examples. There are the Mother Theresas of the world who look after people who can't look after themselves. We have the Sister Sutherlands of the Northwest Territories. I would like to pay a special contribution to Sister Sarazan who many of us in the Northwest Territories owe a great deal. She was a teacher of ours many years ago. She taught us to respect others as well as to be good students and turn around some of what we learn in school to help better the communities that we live in. She passed on several years ago now. Her memory is still fresh in many of our minds.

The Madam Curies of the world of research; the Florence Nightingales of medicine work in the hospitals and research labs to make the world a better place. There are countless unsung heroines among us who are not only working for the benefit of women, but the benefit of all human kind. I owe a special thank you and recognition to my grandmother, with whom I lived for many years. She taught me to respect other people. She was a kind and gentle lady who lived into her 90s before she passed on from this earth. My mother is still living and taught me the good ways of life. My wife of almost 30 years now, Mr. Speaker...

---Applause

Unfortunately, my wife and I were never fortunate enough to have daughters...

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Mr. Whitford , your time has lapsed.

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Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to continue.

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The Member for Yellowknife South is seeking unanimous consent. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Please proceed, Mr. Whitford .

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I said, it was unfortunate that we never had daughters to teach and enjoy as a family. But we are fortunate to have three sons. We always live with the consolation that soon we are going to have three daughters-in-law to add to the long list of female influence in my life.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to conclude by saying the same thing that I said last year at this time. I said, we should just make time and recognize women not only one day of the year, but I think we need to give the recognition that they deserve every day of the year. With that, I salute International Women's Day.

---Applause

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Today, Mr. Speaker, I would like to inform the House as to the current status of the winter roads in my constituency.

---Applause

I would like to begin with Trout Lake, Mr. Speaker. This is the longest of the three winter roads in my constituency. It is 126 kilometres in length. This 126 kilometres covers terrain that is flat and open with no hills. In the 126 kilometres, Trout Lake winter road crosses four small creeks. According to residents of Trout Lake, there has never been a major overflow problem that the community couldn't deal with.

Mr. Speaker, I spoke with the community this morning and they indicated the that present road condition no way warrants early closure, and that the residents do not understand why March 15th has been chosen as an official closure date when the road is in this good condition.

Also, Mr. Speaker, the situation of having heavy equipment used for the purpose of towing vehicles when stuck has rarely occurred on a stretch of winter road. The winter road that connects Jean Marie River to the rest of the world is 27 kilometres in length. There are creeks on this winter road; however, Mr. Speaker, due to the construction of a fair weather road, bridges have been built over all these crossings and therefore pose no environmental threat.

Mr. Speaker, according to residents, there have been gravel haul operations going on here and the road has been packed, resulting in longer road life. As far as immobilizing heavy equipment for the purpose of towing vehicles, residents have exercised common sense and have never required these services. Also, Mr. Speaker, the communities involved in the heavy equipment program have been maintaining approximately half of this road.

To continue, Mr. Speaker, Nahanni Butte is the shortest of these winter roads at 21 kilometres in length. This road crosses the Liard River and the small swamp area. There is economic activity in the form of logging in this community that is relying on the winter road to remain open until the end of the month. Again, Mr. Speaker, like the other two communities, no heavy equipment has been used to tow vehicles stuck due to warm weather conditions.

Mr. Speaker, I'm running out of time. I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

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Samuel Gargan

The Member for Nahendeh is seeking unanimous consent. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Conclude your statement, Mr. Antoine .

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I realize that this is the first year the Department of Transportation has implemented a March 15th closure date. I understand, Mr. Speaker, that part of the reason for the early closure date was meant to address environmental concerns. This is very considerate of the department and I applaud their efforts and concerns. However, Mr. Speaker, the action that was chosen by the department to address this concern was one-sided and therefore suffers from inadequacies.

Mr. Speaker, what I'm talking about is cooperation or, in this case, the lack of it. This is a good example of how important it is for the government to consult with communities for efficient program delivery. In future decisions of the department, active participation of all factors must be a common denominator. The residents of these communities were disappointed that they were not consulted for their input. They are the ones directly affected, and if anyone is to be considered experts with regard to this issue, the residents of these communities are probably your best resources.

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Hear, hear.

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Mr. Speaker, it only makes sense that any community decisions made should be made in direct consultation with that community. As far as using a lack of money as a reason for early closure, as stated by the Minister...

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Shame.

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

...in Hansard on Wednesday, March 1st, the cost of maintenance is almost insignificant in comparison with those winter roads and ice roads where major river and creek crossings are more frequent and road lengths are consistently longer. According to one highway contract maintenance personnel, Mr. Speaker, he stated that money allocated for winter road maintenance has been two-thirds exhausted. The Minister was saying in last Thursday's Hansard that the roads were opened earlier this year, but a quick estimate shows that two thirds of the money allocated has been used in the last three months. That leaves one third for the next seven days.

Also, Mr. Speaker, according to another highway maintenance official, for a three-month period, the total maintenance cost

was approximately $5,000. Again, Mr. Speaker, just a quick calculation gives a cost of $840 for an extra two-week period.

Mr. Speaker, according to the Minister, the ultimate responsibility for making the decision to close these winter roads early was that of the Minister and his department. I strongly urge the Minister to reconsider his decision, considering the sensitivity of this issue and the feedback as a result of the March 15th closing date. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Hear, hear.

---Applause

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Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Ningark .

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John Ningark

Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Like my colleagues, today being International Women's Day, I would like to recognize someone very special. Someone who is very special and has been a defence lawyer, a doctor, a teacher, a woman of God and she has done all these without pay, without complaint. Her clients are myself and my kids, her customers are myself and my kids and she has done this for over 20 years. My kids and I are very grateful to her. I am speaking of my partner in life, my wife, Celine. Thank you.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Ningark . Item 3, Members' statements. Mrs. Marie-Jewell .

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Some of my colleagues have mentioned that today is International Women's Day. Mr. Speaker, in these modern times, we often hear about how good women have it. On the surface, no doubt, it is true. Women can vote, women can work and women can take an active role in our society today.

However, Mr. Speaker, I want all Members to take time to think about the realities of a woman's place in society. Some men say it jokingly but some say it sincerely, that every day is women's day. In some places in our society, this is true and there are many men who respect their spouses and treat them as equals. I commend them for that.

---Applause

However, Mr. Speaker, as a whole, the idea that women are treated with respect and equality reflects an ideal world, and we know we don't live in such an ideal world. When we look at our communities, we see women who are facing difficult situations daily.

Women face violence, physically, mentally and emotionally. Women face intimidation from men who are not comfortable sharing an equal standing with women. Women face the difficulties of single parenting, of providing for a strong family life and have primary responsibilities for child care. Women even face the difficulty of acquiring pay equity which I know is still an outstanding issue to be addressed by this government.

Mr. Speaker, when we look around this Assembly, there are only three women Members of this Assembly. It is not that women aren't good leaders, Mr. Speaker. When we look at the community governments, there are many women leaders. Most community organizations are run by women.

Mr. Speaker, I believe it is at times difficult for women to get into politics at the territorial level in particular. Aside from the issues of intimidation and child care, women have to deal with being away from their families, and it makes it much more difficult when we have children.

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to continue with my statement.

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Samuel Gargan

The Member for Thebacha is seeking unanimous consent. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Conclude your statement, Mrs. Marie-Jewell .

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker and honourable Members. Mr. Speaker, when we are away from our families it is, at times, difficult to receive the same degree of support which men receive for doing the same work. At times, I think of this difference when people approach me and make comments to me about my husband. They'll often say to me gee, Jeannie, you have a great husband -- not that I don't agree with them -- but they tell me he's great because he's willing to take care of the family so I can do my work. The ironic thing is that they would never dream of saying the same thing about men in this Assembly who allow their wives to do the work at home while they do their work in the Assembly.

It's expected that women should keep the family going and it only seems special when the man does it. Even when women make it to this Legislative Assembly, Mr. Speaker, I wonder whether we're treated as equals. I remember, vividly, receiving a plaque when I first became a Member, from a male Member in this House which read: "A woman's place is in her home and that's where she should go, right after work." I certainly hope, Mr. Speaker, that that attitude still doesn't prevail.

Women in the public see the things that happen in this Assembly and are they the kinds of things which would encourage women to consider this type of political lifestyle? As my colleague, Rebecca Mike , said when she was a Minister -- and I have to agree -- she was often the subject of fierce and frequent questioning. Did being female have anything to do with the approach Members took? If she was male, would she have received such harsh treatment?

Male Ministers who sit in this Assembly have received warning tickets from Renewable Resource officers, who are in fact considered police officers when they apply the Wildlife Act for offences, and they still sit as Ministers. Do we have a double standard, where a female Minister is forced to resign, not because of actual offences but simply because of allegations which, at the time, the RCMP decided were not worthy of pursuing?

Mr. Speaker, another example discussed in this House which often becomes quite heated are issues of concern to myself as a Member. However, for the most part, it remains in the House. I wonder at times, Mr. Speaker, if I were a male criticizing the Minister the way I did regarding the CL-215 base, would I have been taken to court? If I were a male criticizing the actions, he would have viewed it as something between men and not something to be pursued in the courts. Mr. Speaker, I've been in politics for about 18 years and, although the presence of women has increased over that time, there is still a long, long way to go.

After hearing about the difficulties which face women in territorial politics, some women may wonder if they should pursue a seat in this House. And, Mr. Speaker, I don't blame the women for being discouraged. But, at the same time, I would like to encourage women to pursue the goal of acquiring a seat in this Legislative Assembly. It's important that women get involved at the territorial level.

Women in politics bring their personal experiences with them. One of the most important of these is their ability to organize and balance priorities, skills most women learn very quickly in order to survive and become an effective mother. As a result, women deal more directly with issues. They know what they want and are prepared to work quickly and in a straightforward manner to get on with the business. They are very organized in their approach and the women I've known in politics make sure their homework is done on issues they have to deal with.

Mr. Speaker, it's important to remove the barriers and break down the chauvinistic attitudes which remain with some of our politicians, particularly in this House. I also want to say that there are some Members who make every effort to work equally with women. Mr. Speaker, I would urge more northern women to stand by their strong convictions and put their names forward for the territorial election in the fall. Women have always been great teachers, and with the presence of more women in this Assembly, women will continue to strive to achieve equality for all women in our society. Thank you.

---Applause

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Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Morin .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a reply to a question that was asked by Mr. Titus Allooloo on March 6, 1996 regarding the protection from rental increases for public housing tenants.

Mr. Speaker, the rent scale is the protection for social housing tenants. Rents are based on a tenant's income. Therefore, if a tenant's income changes, the rent charged also changes. In market housing, the rent is a fixed amount set by the landlord, regardless of a tenant's income. There is no protection if a tenant's income decreases. In social housing, if a tenant's income decreases, their rent will also decrease. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Ms. Cournoyea .

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I have a return to an oral question that was asked by Mrs. Marie-Jewell on March 3, 1995 regarding procedures for verifying GNWT candidates' credentials.

Mr. Speaker, for positions working with youth and other positions of trust, we ensure employees hired have a clear criminal record. Credentials are verified for certain professional positions such as nurses, lawyers and teachers. Job offers for these positions are conditional upon membership with the professional association. The association sets standards and verifies credentials for these positions. New employees are requested to provide a copy of credentials for their personnel file. If credentials are falsified, dismissal action is taken. If appropriate, other related action may be initiated.

The Department of Personnel is currently updating the staffing guidelines in the human resource manual. Verification of credentials for all positions, where appropriate, will be added. This

section will include a detailed verification process for staffing officers to follow, prior to formalizing job offers.

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

I have a second return to questions asked by Mrs. Marie-Jewell on February 21, 1995 and February 23, 1995: Question 127-12(7), established public policy regarding procurement procedures and Question 152-12(7), economic policies regarding organizations and businesses.

Mr. Speaker, a response provided today to Written Question 8-12(7) asked by Mrs. Marie-Jewell on February 21, 1995, provides the information requested by these two questions. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Morin .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to recognize Mr. Bill Norn, president of the Nuni Development Corporation from Fort Resolution. He is also a town counsellor. Sitting next to him was Euan Hunter, the mayor. He's not there right now, but I'll recognize him anyway.

---Applause

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Samuel Gargan

Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Ningark .

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John Ningark

Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to recognize two people from my community, Letidia Apsaktaun and Catherine Kringorn.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Arngna'naaq .

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Silas Arngna'naaq

Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It's very difficult for people in the smaller communities, especially in the east, to come here. I have three constituents from the community of Baker Lake, one of whom is Susan Toolooktook, who I spoke of earlier this afternoon. Thank you.

---Applause

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Samuel Gargan

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as I've been informed by several honourable Members -- in case I didn't notice -- I would like to recognize and welcome back Mr. Ben MacDonald of the UNW. I understand yesterday he was attending an important meeting with the GNWT on employee assistance, so I'm prepared to excuse him for his absence from the House yesterday. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. I would like to recognize Clifford Schaefer. Clifford used to live in Fort Providence.

---Applause

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I have a question for the Minister of Finance who is responsible for the Financial Management Board Secretariat. It's regarding concerns raised about the affirmative action program. Early this year, this government formed a review committee to review the affirmative action program. I would like to ask the Minister the status of this review committee.

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John Pollard

Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good afternoon. Mr. Speaker, the committee will soon commence consultation to see if the affirmative action program is and has been working and to look at what people from different areas of the Northwest Territories think about the program, with the objective of reporting back to the Financial Management Board the results of their survey and to make suggestions if there

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Can the Minister advise us who is on this review committee?

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John Pollard

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Mr. Speaker, I will table that information in the House. Thank you.

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Inuvik

I will be looking forward to finding out who is on the review committee. The Minister said the committee is going to begin their consultations. I would like to know who they are going to be consulting with.

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John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, the committee will continue consulting with the original group they talked with late last year, with aboriginal organizations and also there will be some consultation by region with interested parties, whoever wants to make a presentation. Or if people want to send in briefs to us, they can do that as well. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister if there are any representatives of any of the aboriginal groups on this review committee.

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Mr. Speaker, it's an internal committee and it is consulting with aboriginal organizations. Thank you.

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Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to refer to Tabled Document 51-12(7). I would like to ask the Minister of Housing if that tabled document was used as a form to inform housing association tenants about rent adjustments due to take place April 1, 1995. Thank you.

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe it was one of many that were used. Thank you.

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Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation , did the Housing Corporation develop a form for the housing associations in the communities to use to assess the income of the household which will affect the rent scale? Thank you.

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My understanding is that the local housing authorities have all been trained and they are going to sit down and work out with their clients what their new rents will be. They have forms that they use to calculate that. Thank you.

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Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Was that form provided by the Housing Corporation to assist the housing associations? Thank you.

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. For sure the Housing Corporation is involved with the local housing authorities and they are working with them to help them assess the rents for tenants. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

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Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I don't know if the Minister is evading my question but I'm asking whether the Housing Corporation provided forms that the housing associations would use to assess the rents of tenants. I wonder if that was done. I believe, Mr. Speaker, that my question has not been answered. Thank you.

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have answered the question. The Housing Corporation does work with the local housing authorities and they use different forms, to my understanding, to assess the rents of the tenants. The housing authority staff sit down with tenants, go over their income and other things they need in order to assess the rent. Thank you.

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation . My question is, was the form that went to the housing authorities entitled "Rent Change Notice" designed by the Housing Corporation?

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. One of the forms in the information package is titled "Rent Change Notice." One of them is, yes. Thank you.

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Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. How many rent change notice forms were sent to the housing associations from the Housing Corporation?

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Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The rent change notice form indicates that rents will change as of April 1, 1995. Was that sent to all housing associations and authorities across the NWT?

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Don Morin

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, all local housing authorities received these packages and they had workshops as well. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 530

Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Had the Minister answered my first question, I wouldn't have had to use all my supplementary questions just trying to get the answer I'm after. My question to the Minister is this: was the translation in Inuktitut of that notice also provided to the housing authorities and associations by the Housing Corporation?

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes.

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Question 272-12(7): Extension Of Date For Closure Of Winter Roads

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 530

Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to follow up the statement I made earlier today with regard to the winter roads to Trout Lake, Nahanni Butte and Jean Marie River, which are scheduled to close March 15th. I also, in recognition of those constituents who are involved with this issue and are making their concerns known, on behalf of those constituents, I would like to ask the Minister of Transportation what the department has done so far in reaching an attainable and reasonable solution to extending the closing date. Mahsi.

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Samuel Gargan

Minister of Transportation , Mr. Todd .

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I did ask the department before I left Friday to go to Iqaluit over to Rankin and then to Toronto, to treat this matter with a sense of urgency because time was running out, as they say; I asked them to review this entire issue and see if there was some way that we could, one, stay within our budget requirements -- and I want to emphasize that -- but at the same time two, perhaps consider a creative way in which to extend some of these ice

roads. I am not in a position today to give a full report to the Member, but I will assure him that by tomorrow I will hopefully be able to make a Minister's statement that, while it may not be a perfect solution, be better than what we currently have. Thank you.

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Another problem I have with the winter road closure is the way these roads are going to be closed. If they are going to be closed, sometimes huge tires are put in the way or there are snow banks that are put in place; the members of the community know when the roads will be closed and when they can't pass any more. So they are requesting that they be able to use the road as long as they can.

One of the points that we found out about, I would like to ask the Minister if it's true, is that the department plans to fine winter road offenders anywhere from $2,000 to $5,000 if they are caught on a winter road after closure. Thank you.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Not to my knowledge, and I am meeting with the deputy minister later on this afternoon. I want to assure the Member that we do recognize that this is an important economic link in the region. We are trying as hard as we can to come up with some creative solution within the current fiscal framework in which we are working. So, not to my knowledge at this time. Thank you.

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Question 273-12(7): Inuktitut Translation Of Rent Change Notice Misleading

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 531

Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to direct my question to the Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation , Mr. Morin . In the Housing Corporation's notice to the tenants, in Inuktitut, it says that those people who refuse to disclose their income will not be paying rent for their units. That information seems to be misleading. Mr. Speaker, what is the Minister prepared to do since the information in the notice that was given to tenants is misleading?

It was mentioned by the Member for Iqaluit that people are not coming to housing associations to disclose their income, because they read in Inuktitut that if they do not disclose their income they don't have to pay the rent for their unit. What is the Minister prepared to do with that information? Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

I don't see it as a major problem. We can use this form, and I have already directed the Housing Corporation to become very aggressive and go back, explain the error and work with the local housing authorities and make sure that everyone fully understands what the intention is, because this has been ongoing for a long period of time.

We also had workshops and training with our local housing authorities and our tenant relations officers and Inuktitut speaking managers, and they never had a problem with it.

The message I am getting from the local housing authorities is that things are on

schedule and people are coming in. They also have extra dollars from the Housing Corporation to make sure people fully understand what is happening. They are doing that. They are starting to meet with people, and every day more people are coming in.

So, through this form, as well as through the radio stations in the eastern Arctic, we will aggressively let people know what is happening and encourage them to come in. I encourage Members of this Assembly, if they get any calls from constituents or people who have a concern, to explain it properly to them because we can all pitch in and help out to make sure everybody fully understands. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. For those unilingual Inuit who speak only Inuktitut, this would mean that if they do not come to the housing associations to verify their income, they will not have to pay for their unit. That's what it says to me and also to my colleague for High Arctic who speaks more Inuktitut than I do or has spoken Inuktitut longer than I have.

Mr. Speaker, for those people who read this the way we read it, if they do not go to the housing associations to verify their income, will their rent be subjected to a new rent scale? Thank you.

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Mr. Morin .

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Don Morin

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes.

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Samuel Gargan

Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Koe .

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Question 274-12(7): Distribution Of Premier's Speech

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 532

Fred Koe

Inuvik

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Earlier today, the Premier made a statement about her visit to the prospectors' and developers' conference. The Premier stated that she made a speech to the delegates at the conference in Toronto. The Premier is not here so I would like to ask the Premier 's designate if a copy of that speech will be tabled or distributed in this House.

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Samuel Gargan

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John Pollard

Hay River

The speech will be tabled tomorrow, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 532

Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation , Mr. Morin , concerning the rental increase. On the last question Mr. Allooloo asked, I understood him to say that regardless of improper or inadequate information they may have received in the Inuktitut translation, their rent will be increased. Is that my understanding?

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My understanding from the Housing Corporation, through contacting the local housing authorities, is they have indicated they would meet the deadline of counselling all their tenants and assessing rent by April 1, 1995. I once again say that if Members have the opportunity to talk to constituents and constituents do have a concern, Members of this House can also help to clarify this situation. We are going to go on the radio and become more aggressive to ensure that all people get the message, and get a very clear message. Thank you.

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

If these tenants don't come to the housing association to verify their income, they think they're not going to pay. If they don't verify their income, will they be assessed at the maximum ceiling rent as was set by the honourable Member for Iqaluit ? Thank you.

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

If that is what that notice says -- and I don't know that yet -- then we'll have to work that problem out with the tenants and the local housing authorities. So I don't see a problem with that. Thank you.

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