Debates of Nov. 2nd, 1994

This is page numbers 679 - 714 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 6th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was community .

Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

Sympathies

Implementation Of The Infrastructure Program

Community Access Roads

Phase-out Of Flight Support Services

Prayers And Condolences Offered To Families Of Lost Hunters

Condolences To Families Of Lost Hunters

Passing Of Mr. Simonie Alainga

Tragic Hunting Accident In Frobisher Bay

Condolences To Families And Friends Of Lost Hunters

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Impact Of Flight Service Station Closures

Future Plans For Education Strategy To 2010

Power Costs Paid By Royal Oak And Miramar Con Mines

Time Frame For Changes To Bip

Territorial Groups Refusing To Pay Payroll Tax

Rcmp Policy For Visiting Inmates

Provision Of Services To Special Needs Children

Response To NWT Tourism Strategy

Extension Of Mackenzie Highway

Inequities In Property Taxation System Re Delinquent Accounts

Use Of Global Positioning System In Northern Aviation

Enforcement Of Tobacco Tax Act

Item 8: Returns To Written Questions

Return To Written Question 4-12(6): GNWT Policies On Advertising Supplements

Return To Written Question 7-12(6) Asked By Mr. Ballantyne To The Minister Of Education, Culture And Employment Concerning Teachers' Aides And Special Needs Students In The NWT School System.Return To Written Question 7-12(6): Teachers' Aides And Special Needs Students In The NWT School System

Return To Written Question 8-12(6): Costs Associated With Special Needs Persons In The Nwt

Return To Written Question 10-12(6): Speech Therapy Services And Private Practices

Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

Bill 19: Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 1, 1994-95

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Bill 3: Guardianship And Trusteeship Act

To Amend Clause 1 Of Bill 3

To Amend Clause 2 Of Bill 3

To Amend Clause 7 Of Bill 3

To Amend Clause 8 Of Bill 3

To Amend Clause 10 Of Bill 3

To Amend Clause 12 Of Bill 3

To Amend Clause 31 Of Bill 3

To Amend Clause 32 Of Bill 3

To Amend Clause 33 Of Bill 3

Bill 15:

An Act To Amend The Legislative Assembly And Executive Council Act

Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 1, 1995-96Committee Report 10-12(6): Report On The Review Of The 1995-96 Capital Estimates

Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Bill 7:

An Act To Amend The Arctic College Act

Item 22: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Mr. Allooloo , Mr. Antoine , Hon. Silas Arngna'naaq , Mr. Ballantyne , Hon. Nellie Cournoyea , Mr. Dent , Mr. Gargan , Hon. Stephen Kakfwi , Mr. Koe , Mr. Lewis , Hon. Jeannie Marie-Jewell , Hon. Rebecca Mike , Hon. Don Morin , Hon. Richard Nerysoo , Mr. Ng , Mr. Ningark , Mr. Patterson , Hon. John Pollard , Mr. Pudlat , Mr. Pudluk , Hon. John Todd

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---Prayer

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

I would to express, on behalf of the Legislative Assembly, our heartfelt condolences to the families and many friends of the eight people who tragically lost their lives recently while travelling in the waters off Iqaluit. Our prayers are with you, and I would request that all Members remain standing for a minute of silence.

---Minute of silence

Item 2, Ministers' statements. Madam Premier .

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Minister's Statement 48-12(6): Sympathies

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Madam Speaker, on behalf of Cabinet, I want to express my deepest sympathies to the families and friends of the eight people who drowned in the tragic boating accident near Iqaluit, and to the two survivors whose lives have been irreversibly altered by this experience.

Madam Speaker, there are no easy answers to help us understand why something like this happens, Madam Speaker, there are no easy words to help heal the wounds created by such a loss.

I just want to say that the hearts of all northern residents go out to the families and friends of those lost in this horrible tragedy. We offer to them our most profound condolences and our strongest support in their time of deep personal suffering. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 48-12(6): Sympathies

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 2, Ministers' statements. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Nerysoo .

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Minister's Statement 49-12(6): Implementation Of The Infrastructure Program

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Speaker. On August 24th, the governments of Canada and the Northwest Territories signed a Canada/NWT infrastructure program agreement. The program is intended to create short and long-term employment through investment in local communities, while meeting the need to enhance physical infrastructure in those communities.

Recognizing the unique situation in the NWT, the national infrastructure program and the aboriginal infrastructure program have been combined into a single program. Through the agreement, the federal government and the Government of the Northwest Territories will each provide $5.4 million over the next two years. A further potential contribution of up to $2 million from the tax-based communities will increase the total fund to approximately $12 million.

The infrastructure program follows the model of the successful NWT workers' training fund program, allowing communities to determine their own priorities and administer the projects. Communities may develop one major project or several smaller ones.

All communities in the NWT have been assigned a funding allocation, based on the number of working age people who are not employed. A maximum and minimum level of funding has been set to allow sufficient funds for small communities to develop projects of a reasonable size.

The Department of Education, Culture and Employment is responsible for implementing and delivering this program, with assistance from Municipal and Community Affairs. A management committee has been established to administer and manage the program, headed by Mr. Mark Cleveland, assistant deputy minister of culture and careers and Mr. Warren Johnson, NWT regional director of Indian and Northern Affairs for the federal government.

Madam Speaker, the NWT/Canada infrastructure program allows participants to undertake and invest in worthwhile infrastructure projects. The program assists the government in achieving its goal of increased control at the local level, while it helps my department reach its goal of providing increased training and work experience opportunities at the community level. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

---Applause

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Minister's Statement 49-12(6): Implementation Of The Infrastructure Program

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 2, Ministers' statements. The honourable Member for Keewatin Central , Mr. Todd .

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Minister's Statement 50-12(6): Community Access Roads

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Madam Speaker, I would like to take a few minutes today to talk about some positive developments in the Department of Transportation's community access roads program. As Members are aware, the idea for a community access roads program came from the advice of Members of this House and, in particular, the honourable Member for Natilikmiot . If progress made this year is any indication, I am

pleased to say that it seems to have caught on. The intent of the program is to develop local roads to nearby areas of importance.

I want to emphasize that, from start to finish, community access roads are largely community initiatives. The Department of Transportation funds the projects through contribution agreements with the communities. The community gives the department a proposal and, from the proposal, the community and the department work out the material, financial and human resources they will jointly contribute to the project.

Madam Speaker, in Taloyoak, the hamlet and the department made a 50/50 cost sharing agreement to hire 18 students who repaired the ATV trails to Netsilik Lake and Redfish Lake. The community of Igloolik completed a two-year project to fix a five-kilometre trail to Igloolik Point. Cap Mountain Ventures of Wrigley improved a three-kilometre access road to the boots camp on the Willowlake River. In Arviat, the hamlet built two kilometres of road past Landing Lake towards the Maguse River. The hamlet of Resolute worked to improve the road to Sight Point.

The community of Jean Marie River upgraded seven kilometres of winter road to all-weather quality. Baker Lake added two more kilometres to the Whitehills Lake Road. And, the material for a bridge over the Kuruluk River arrived in Broughton Island this summer. The community will move the pieces to the river by snowmobile and komatik and assemble the bridge by hand next spring.

As the Minister of Transportation , it is rewarding to see the effort and commitment that communities are willing to invest in their access roads. The contribution agreement is a flexible way to match community resources with the scope and scale of the project. I have said before that I wanted to see community access roads become a larger part of the transportation portfolio. As a goal, I imagined a program with an annual budget of $1 million. For next year, the Department of Transportation is already examining proposals worth $700,000 and it expects to receive as many as 10 more new proposals.

With the growing interest this year, I am pleased to say that the community access roads program is quickly becoming one of the Department of Transportation's most successful programs. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

---Applause

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Minister's Statement 50-12(6): Community Access Roads

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Kitikmeot , Mr. Ng .

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Phase-out Of Flight Support Services

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

actively involved in negotiating the transfer of the nine Arctic A airports from Transport Canada.

There are four communities targeted for closure in the 1995-96 fiscal year: Cambridge Bay, Hay River, Fort Simpson and Fort Smith. There will be a loss of approximately 24 full-time positions in these communities. The hamlet council of Cambridge Bay and I have been requesting the Honourable John Todd , Minister of Transportation , to establish a community aerodrome radio station known as CARS in lieu of eliminating the flight service stations.

The establishment of the CARS program will result in retaining some employment in the community but, most importantly, will provide a dependable human component to the aircraft advisory service that cannot be performed by an automated system. The airline industry is apprehensive about the establishment of a CAATS system in our northern environment where reliable, up-to-date weather and operating conditions are critical to their operations.

Although Cambridge Bay, Hay River, Fort Smith and Fort Simpson are planned for phase-out next year, when will the remaining communities with flight service stations be phased out? Our communities cannot afford to lose the staff positions or the air support services currently offered by Transport Canada. Our government must intervene to ensure that adequate levels of employment and flight support services are provided within communities currently designated for phase-out by Transport Canada.

---Applause

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Phase-out Of Flight Support Services

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Natilikmiot , Mr. Ningark .

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Prayers And Condolences Offered To Families Of Lost Hunters

Item 3: Members' Statements

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John Ningark

Natilikmiot

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, I stand before this House offering my prayers and condolences to the families of hunters who were tragically lost at sea near Iqaluit. Madam Speaker, no pain is more painful than when one experiences the loss of life of a loved one. Madam Speaker, no heart is heavier than when one experiences the loss of life of loved ones.

Madam Speaker, but only God can offer relief and comfort to the families of those people who are lost. May God provide relief and comfort to the families of hunters who have passed on to a life of peace in eternity. Thank you.

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Prayers And Condolences Offered To Families Of Lost Hunters

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Baffin South , Mr. Pudlat .

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Condolences To Families Of Lost Hunters

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Kenoayoak Pudlat

Baffin South

(Translation) Thank you, Madam Speaker. I also would like to rise today to speak about the pain and suffering of the families who have been left behind. We are all are affected by this tragedy that occurred just recently. We can only look to God for comfort, and I pray that the people who are immediately affected by this tragedy are in the arms of the loving God.

All these people who have perished have many relatives across the territories and we send our sincerest condolences to the families. They are in our thoughts and prayers. Only God can give you relief and comfort and he knows exactly what is going on in the minds and hearts of those people who have been left behind. I'm sure he will keep them in his care and love.

On behalf of my constituents, we send our sincerest condolences and prayers to the families, relatives and friends. Although this tragedy has occurred, we have to look to God for comfort. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Condolences To Families Of Lost Hunters

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Amittuq , Mr. Allooloo .

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Passing Of Mr. Simonie Alainga

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Thank you, Madam Speaker. (Translation) We're all concerned about the families who have been left behind in this tragedy, and they will be in our prayers, Madam Speaker. All the Yellowknife churches have been approached to help. (Translation ends)

...lost in that boating accident and his name was Simonie Alainga who was a community leader and a pillar of the community. When you went into his house in Iqaluit, you always saw Baffin people staying there because they felt comfortable, and they were also fed and there was always tea on the stove for anyone who came into Simonie's house.

I knew Simonie for a number of years as a colleague, when I was on the hamlet council and also mayor, and also at the Baffin regional councils. He was been a strong leader in the community. Within the last few years, he had been concentrating his efforts toward helping the young people to get better and also to go out hunting.

Madam Speaker, I sincerely would like to say we are sorry that we have lost a very strong Baffin leader. Thank you.

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Passing Of Mr. Simonie Alainga

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Iqaluit , Mr. Patterson .

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Tragic Hunting Accident In Frobisher Bay

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, the people of my constituency are in deep shock and mourning since they heard yesterday of the news of the loss of eight hunters in the waters of Frobisher Bay last weekend. This sad news came after days of increasing anxiety and concern. In the midst of this sorrow, Madam Speaker, there is also some joy.

Earlier this week, as the search continued with no news, I said that all we could do is pray for a miracle. And I know many of us did just that. Madam Speaker, it is nothing short of miraculous that Billy Kownirk and Pitseola Alainga, Simonie's son, managed to survive somehow in that weather and cold after what they had been through for two and a half days, and miraculous that they were seen by the dedicated searchers, clinging to the submerged remains of the vessel.

Madam Speaker, all these lost hunters are much beloved by their families and the community and their many relatives, not just in Iqaluit but other Baffin communities. However, I want to specifically pay tribute today to Simonie Alainga, their leader.

Simonie was the personification of caring and decency and humanity. This trip was typical of Simonie. He was bringing back walrus meat for the community, he had a crew of veteran dedicated hunters and young people with him. He was a friend to all, but especially to young people. He was a pillar of the Iqaluit community for his services to church and community. I wish to thank Members of this House and many others who have expressed their condolences.

I will be travelling to Iqaluit tomorrow, along with other Members of this House, to pay my respects, and I will take those wishes with me. Thank you.

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Tragic Hunting Accident In Frobisher Bay

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Yellowknife North , Mr. Ballantyne .

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Condolences To Families And Friends Of Lost Hunters

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Michael Ballantyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, on behalf of my constituents of Yellowknife North and the residents of Yellowknife, I would like to express our deep condolences for the eight hunters who tragically were lost in the dangerous waters of Frobisher Bay. Our condolences go out to the families and friends of those who were taken from us.

We share the joy of the families and friends of the two hunters who were saved. I think it's moments like this that we should all forget our differences in the Northwest Territories. We all have to pull together. Iqaluit's loss is all of our loss. From my constituents, I extend our deepest condolences to the people of Iqaluit and the region.

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Condolences To Families And Friends Of Lost Hunters

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Madam Premier .

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Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Madam Speaker, I have a number of returns to oral questions.

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Return To Question 170-12(6): Treatment Of Dyslexia/fetal Alcohol Syndrome

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

A return to oral question that was asked by Mr. Sam Gargan on October 18th regarding the treatment of dyslexia/fetal alcohol syndrome.

Madam Speaker, the use of alcohol by a pregnant woman can cause many problems for the child. However, dyslexia is not necessarily caused by the mother's drinking.

Unfortunately, once a child has been damaged by alcohol, and has fetal alcohol syndrome or effects, or if something else has caused them to have dyslexia, it is not possible to provide treatment that will cure that problem. What can be done is to try to provide special school and family support services that can help the child to function better in spite of their handicap.

Alcohol causes permanent damage in the unborn child, and such children will then require help in coping throughout their lives. Teachers do have techniques to help people to read, even if they are dyslexic, but the dyslexia itself will always be there.

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Further Return To Question 241-12(6): Status Of Mou With Health Boards

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Madam Speaker, I have a further return. Return to a question asked by Mr. Koe on October 25th in terms of the status of the status of the memorandum of understanding with the health boards.

Madam Speaker, the roles and responsibilities of the board, as a whole, will be specified in the memorandum of understanding. A job description/role description for an individual board trustee has not been requested by the boards and will not be included in the memorandum of understanding.

The role of the individual board trustee is currently described in the board by-laws, enacted by each board and approved by the Minister.

The trustee orientation manual, which is available to all board trustees, provides further information about roles and responsibilities. These resources provide the detailed information to new board trustees that helps them to adequately understanding their roles.

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Return To Question 259-12(6): Proposal Call Re Study Of Financing Alternatives For Education

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Madam Speaker, I have a further return to an oral question which was asked by Mr. Lewis on Wednesday, October 26th. The question concerns a proposal call regarding a study of financing alternatives for education.

Madam Speaker, the study of options for financing local government is being undertaken by the Department of Finance in conjunction with the departments of Education, Culture and Employment, Municipal and Community Affairs and the Ministry of Intergovernmental and Aboriginal Affairs. It is being carried out under the direction of a steering committee of deputy ministers from these departments and chaired by the deputy minister of Finance.

The review will examine the financing of education throughout the Northwest Territories, including local school boards. It will consider the effectiveness of the existing taxation system and provide recommendations on alternatives. In order that all residents have an opportunity for input into the study, there will be widespread consultation with municipalities, school boards and other stakeholders across the Northwest Territories. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Return To Question 259-12(6): Proposal Call Re Study Of Financing Alternatives For Education

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 4, returns to oral questions. The honourable Member for Baffin Central , Ms. Mike .

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Return To Question 244-12(6): Shortage Of Staff Housing In Arctic Bay

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

(Translation) Thank you, Madam Speaker. I have a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Pudluk on October 25th, 1994 regarding shortage and resolution of staff housing in Arctic Bay.

There are 16 staff housing units and 36 GNWT employees in Arctic Bay. In addition, there is one unit under construction.

Due to changes in personal circumstances affecting two staff members, there is now a need for two additional units in Arctic Bay.

The Department of Public Works and Services is currently investigating options to resolve the problem. Once a course of action is decided upon, I will advise Mr. Pudluk . Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Return To Question 244-12(6): Shortage Of Staff Housing In Arctic Bay

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Kitikmeot , Mr. Ng .

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Question 312-12(6): Impact Of Flight Service Station Closures

Item 6: Oral Questions

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Transportation . Earlier in my Member's statement, I spoke on the pending closures of flight service stations in some communities in the NWT. I have spoken and written to the Minister about the issue. What has he or his department done to oppose or to minimize the impact as a result of these impending closures?

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Question 312-12(6): Impact Of Flight Service Station Closures

Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Transportation , Mr. Todd .

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. In our negotiations that are coming under way for the Arctic A

airports, we are making a provision in our discussions with Transport Canada to operate these airports in a CARS situation, which the honourable Member alluded to earlier. We are reasonably optimistic, should we be successful in negotiating this, that some, if not all, of the jobs will be kept. It is important to point out that in the CARS program, 95 per cent of people working in that program are aboriginal. Thank you.

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Speaker. With respect to the proposed automated systems that Transport Canada is putting into these communities, has his department undertaken negotiations or discussions with the air carrier servicing these communities to see if those systems are adequate based on their needs? Thank you.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

In the negotiations under way for Arctic airports, there has been tremendous consultation with a variety of groups, including the airline companies. As I have said, we are optimistic that if we are successful in this transfer initiative, we will do it in such a manner that there will be manual CARS operators, rather than the automated systems that my honourable colleague is talking about.

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I have said that I fully support the establishment of a CARS program. It is critical to the operation of these flight support services in our communities. I also support the Arctic A transfer initiative that the department has undertaken. In what time frame is the Minister expecting these negotiations to be concluded? Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

When we made the presentation to the Standing Committee on Finance, we indicated to them that we were hopeful that negotiations could be concluded by April 1, 1995. Let's bear in mind that this is subject to Cabinet approval, but we were optimistic. In my latest discussions with Transportation yesterday, it looks like it may be the end of June/beginning of July. Thank you.

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Question 313-12(6): Future Plans For Education Strategy To 2010

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Mahsi, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, last week, the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment tabled, People, Our Focus for the Future: A Strategy to 2010. I glanced through the book and I find it a very nice document. There are lots of pretty pictures and graphs. There is a lot of information on our education system. I would like to congratulate the department for the initiative they are undertaking. However, I am concerned in terms of the strategy on the amount of information that is contained in the document and how it is being distributed. My question to the Minister is now that the strategy has been developed and printed, is that it? Is the development of the strategy finished?

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Nerysoo .

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

The strategy document and advice that was given by the community consultation groups is contained in the document. That portion of the development of the document is complete. What now has to take place are the components of that strategy and we are already in the process and have concluded a number of those initiatives.

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Education is a concern right across the north. I am just wondering, is it the intention of the department to have more consultation on this printed document with grassroots people or is it now going to be up to the academics and the bureaucrats to implement this strategy?

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Madam Speaker, I don't want to express disappointment with the honourable Member, but the fact is that it has been focus groups that have met -- in fact one group met in Inuvik -- on two particular issues. There was a territorial symposium on the issue of child care. On the matter of the Dene Kede curriculum and Innuqatigiit, aboriginal communities are involved in the development of those documents. They are important components to the conclusion of the strategy itself.

In a number of these cases, actual implementation and specific work in those areas we have identified has to take place now. That is something that has to be done in conjunction with our divisional and school boards.

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

I didn't intend the Minister to get upset at me for asking questions about his report and trying to clarify some issues. I know the groups are mentioned in this document and I know there has been a lot of consultation, but there are still many people out there with children in school systems who would like to look at this and read it to see what the department and Minister is intending. That is my point. It is a large document. There is a lot of information in here and I just want to know how does the Minister propose to get this information out to grassroots people; people in the community who are concerned about education?

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Madam Speaker, we are going to do the same thing we have done for the last two years: have the communities participate in analysing the information that we provided them. Much of the documentation and information we have received has been from the communities and we are going to continue to advise them. Just so that Members know, the document has been sent to all political leaders, all the CECs, all the school boards, Arctic College board members and every conceivable organization we can provide it to.

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Thank you. Final supplementary, Mr. Koe .

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Mahsi. I have always been an advocate of using plain and simple language, so people can read, understand and digest information. What is the department doing to provide people in the communities the knowledge of what is in this strategy?

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Madam Speaker, what we are doing is trying to advise the CECs and the boards of what is contained in the document. We are also trying to involve them in the development of the Education Act, which is a key component in the implementation of the strategy.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife North , Mr. Ballantyne .

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Michael Ballantyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, I have a question for the Minister responsible for the Power Corporation . Madam Speaker, I seem to have a bit of a problem here. I asked the Minister responsible a written question asking for the simple increased cost of a 22 per cent surcharge to Royal Oak and Con. For some reason, whoever

answered the question didn't quite understand my question, so I didn't really get a response back.

Then I asked an oral question and three supplementary questions asking the same question and the Minister said at first that it was in front of the Public Utilities Board and then her last response was, she didn't know. But that is the reason, Madam Speaker, why I asked the written question in the first place, because I didn't think she would know. So, we're right back to where we started from.

So, I will try again. I understand the Minister's embarrassment in answering this question. I would be embarrassed too, because the numbers probably are quite hefty. My question to the Minister is, would the Minister agree that the cost to Royal Oak and to Miramar would be 22 per cent more than what they are paying presently?

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Mr. Ballantyne , I am having a problem with the way the question is posed, maybe because that issue is in front of the PUB and the decision has not yet been made. You may attempt to rephrase your question. Mr. Ballantyne .

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Question 314-12(6): Power Costs Paid By Royal Oak And Miramar Con Mines

Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael Ballantyne

Yellowknife North

Certainly, Madam Speaker, I've made numerous attempts to rephrase this question. I will do it a different way altogether then. I will assume, Madam Speaker, that it is 22 per cent more than the present costs and I'll ask, as a Member of a Legislative Assembly that actually owns the Power Corporation, if the Minister could make available to me the present costs paid by Miramar and Royal Oak for power. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister responsible for the Power Corporation , Madam Premier .

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Madam Speaker, yes, I'll do that.

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Amittuq , Mr. Allooloo .

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Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister for DPW a question. He made a really good statement about the BIP. I am reading from the unedited Hansard of October 19, 1994. He says that in order to be a Northwest Territories resident, you have to be in the Northwest Territories for one year. In order to get a local contract, you have to be in a community for six months. The addresses of employees and also T-22 tax forms are required as proof of income tax paid in the Northwest Territories.

Also, the government would be able to remove business incentive policy benefits from companies who don't obey the policy. I wonder, when is the government going to change their policy to suit what the Minister said on October 19th. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Public Works and Services , Mr. Morin .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I've directed the president of the Housing Corporation as well as the deputy minister of DPW to amend all existing contracts we have out there right now for clarification of northern residence. Before, what was acceptable to get the business incentive policy for northern and local work was an NWT health card. What we've done is increased that to a driver's licence as well as a tax return and the address of where the employee lives.

We will be amending all our contracts for next year; so, if you do not hire local people like you said you were going to in the contract, then we will have the opportunity to either pull the contract from you, pull the BIP from you, or else cancel the contract immediately. Thank you.

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Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Lewis .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Finance . He told us in the Assembly that the payroll tax has worked the way he had hoped it would work. With the exception of the Dene Nation, who has decided they are not going to pay taxes, he has received money from southern Canada, from companies who have offices in southern Canada, and even offices of companies in the United States. My question to the Minister is, are there any bodies in the Northwest Territories, apart from the Dene Nation, who have decided they are not going to pay this tax?

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Finance , Mr. Pollard .

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John Pollard

Hay River

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Good afternoon. Madam Speaker, the federal government had some problems putting this tax into place simply because of the system they were using. They are registered and on stream now. The Dene Nation refused on the grounds that they were not to be included because of treaty arrangements. They have an issue before the federal government that I agreed to take a look at before insisting that they pay.

Those are the ones I know about that we've had problems with registering or paying, Madam Speaker. Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Speaker. The issue related to the Dene Nation, since it's not an issue before the courts, I would like to ask the Minister on what specific legal grounds had the Dene Nation argued that they should not pay taxes?

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John Pollard

Hay River

Madam Speaker, representation was made to me by Chief Erasmus that, because of a treaty, he had made representation to the federal government and the federal government was looking at a remission order with regard to taxes. Because what Mr. Erasmus told me was true, I said I would wait until we had received word from the Minister of Indian Affairs with regard to how they were going to rule on that issue.

As soon as the letter came from Mr. Irwin that said that he was not going to issue a remission order, or that there was not going to be forgiveness of taxes, I proceeded to tell Mr. Erasmus that he must now comply with the Legislative Assembly law that there should be a payroll tax in the Northwest Territories.

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Taxation obviously poses problems in the Northwest Territories and maybe this is just the tip of the iceberg. Since governments depend on taxes for revenue to provide its programs, I would like to ask the Minister, is that one of the reasons why we are looking to alternatives to taxes for the provision of services in the Northwest Territories, as referred to earlier when the Premier responded to my question about the proposal to look at alternative tax systems for providing schools and so on?

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John Pollard

Hay River

Madam Speaker, that issue that we are going to study and consult with school boards, municipalities and other stake holders on, has been around for some time. I think it started with Mr. Morin , myself and Mr. Lewis when we were on the Standing Committee on

Finance, and that there were a number of aboriginal people in the Northwest Territories who objected to the name "tax," particularly when it came down to land taxes because they said we already own the land so why should we be paying taxes on something that we already own.

Again, in 1991, the NWT Association of Municipalities raised this issue and made a motion and said that we should stop levying the education tax. So, on one hand we were being asked to rename the tax, and the Standing Committee on Finance had suggested that we look at a different name for it, and now the Association of Municipalities is saying we should stop that tax. So the reason for the study is to get out there and talk to people about the renaming, about why municipalities want to dispose of the tax.

I already know the reason, it's because some of them are losing money on collecting taxes for us, Madam Speaker. So we're going to try to resolve those issues and still maintain those tax dollars that we need to deliver education in the Northwest Territories, partially. Thank you.

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Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Kitikmeot , Mr. Ng .

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Question 317-12(6): Rcmp Policy For Visiting Inmates

Item 6: Oral Questions

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Justice and it has to do with the RCMP policy with respect to visitation rights for prisoners being held in cells within some of our communities who are awaiting court dates or transfers or are sentenced to weekends. I would like to ask the Minister, is there a specific policy that the RCMP has as far as the guidelines for visitors to people in cells? Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Madam Speaker, I'm sure there is a policy. We'll get copies made for the Member, that spell out what the RCMP's policy is for visitation to inmates who are serving sentences in the communities, those on remand and those awaiting court appearances in a community, so that all Members can enjoy the information. Thank you.

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I appreciate the fact that the Minister is going to get a copy of the policy. I would like to ask the Minister is he's aware, within this policy, whether the RCMP personnel at the local detachment have flexibility in the guidelines for these prisoners. Thank you.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Madam Speaker, I'm not clear what the Member means by flexibility. There are rights given to inmates who are incarcerated. They have a right to have visitors. People who are on remand have different visitation rights. I think once we make copies of the policy available, then those questions will be answered. I don't know the specific details of the policy, myself. Thank you.

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Speaker. When I meant flexibility, Madam Speaker, I was referring to whether or not the local RCMP had the flexibility to determine which individual family member has the right to visit somebody who is incarcerated. Thank you.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Madam Speaker, I have no idea of who the RCMP can decide can visit inmates in the communities when they are incarcerated. I don't know that. Thank you.

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Thank you. Final supplementary, Mr. Ng .

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister then, is he aware in this policy if RCMP officers have the authority to suspend visiting privileges for prisoners, and under what circumstances they would have that authority. Thank you.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Madam Speaker, the primary principle there is safety and security of inmates and the public. I know that's the general principle on which everyone operates. If there are difficulties with inmates, difficulties with the visitors, members of family who are visiting, then the rights to visit can be restricted, perhaps even cut depending on the ability of the RCMP to provide proper supervision and surveillance. Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Lewis .

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Question 318-12(6): Provision Of Services To Special Needs Children

Item 6: Oral Questions

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Earlier in this session, in March, I reminded the Minister of Education that there were several children in the city with special needs who were not getting the attention that they should get, and the board, especially the public school board, had quite a large deficit. In fact, under the Education Act, the Minister is made responsible for providing for special needs children.

At that time, Madam Speaker, he told me that Social Services and the Department of Health and his department had set up a tripartite committee, and this issue would be resolved by school opening this fall. It's now into November, so I would like to ask the Minister has this issue been resolved as he had promised last March?

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Nerysoo .

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you. I'm not sure if I promised it. What I did say is I would try to resolve it. However, there are still matters that have not been dealt with. In the case of speech therapy, for instance, we're doing an assessment in the city in providing additional financial resources to the school boards to address that particular matter, along with some of the other special need requirements in the city.

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Since the Minister did make a commitment to resolve this issue by school opening, and we understand that very often things can't go exactly according to any individual's timetable, I would like to ask the Minister, although some progress has been made, what remains to be done to resolve this issue with the city?

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Nerysoo .

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

There are a couple of important issues that need to be resolved. One, the whole matter of dealing with school board No. 1 in particular on addressing the whole issue of inclusive schooling, because school board No. 2, the separate school board, is actually developing quite an innovative and positive response to the whole matter of inclusive schooling, to a point that they've organized themselves within groups within their schools to work on the development of a plan to respond.

The other issue, of course, deals with the matter of space. I think that the honourable Member and other Members of Yellowknife have raised the issue of the need for space for some special needs programming.

The other issue is a longer-term one, and that is specialized support, not only for the students here but generally for students throughout the Northwest Territories. And one which the honourable Member for Yellowknife Frame Lake has raised on a number of occasions, and that is the speech therapy support services.

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Supplementary, Mr. Lewis .

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Speaker. School district No. 1, in fact, engaged the services of Dr. Gordon Porter from New Brunswick, who I have known for many years, and has developed in concert with the board, a policy with regard to inclusive schooling which has been adopted by the boards. So I would like to ask the Minister, since that board already has a policy on inclusive schooling, what is holding up any further developments with regard to the Minister meeting his responsibilities under the act?

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Minister of Education .

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Speaker. It is interesting that the honourable Member mentions Dr. Porter because Dr. Porter, in my most recent meetings in Toronto at a conference on inclusive schooling, special needs education, supports the inclusive schooling policy of the Government of the Northwest Territories and has indicated to me that it is one of the leading policies in this country.

I think the report that was provided to school district No. 1 was an excellent report by Dr. Porter. I have had a chance to review it and I have also had a chance to review the response to school district No. 1. All the decisions that have been made have not been totally supportive of Dr. Porter's original report. I do feel the inclusive school policy is one that we should implement and one we need to work on. Generally speaking, there are some specific issues that need to be addressed and, hopefully, with the commitment of the Department of Health and Social Services and ourselves, we can get on with trying to find the necessary responses.

In some cases, we are responding by providing additional financial support. With others, we have to deal with the question of space. There are two elements to space: one is the growing school-age population in the city. Secondly, is the need for us to address the special needs of school in the city as well.

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Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Inuvik , Mr. Koe .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Mahsi, Madam Speaker. I have a question for the Minister of Economic Development and Tourism . In late July, the department prepared a Northwest Territories tourism marketing strategy and released the report to operators and other people in the industry throughout the north. To me, the document is very timely and is reflective of the diverse needs of tourism industry and of our attractions in the north. My question to the Minister is what kind of response is he receiving from people across the north on this tourism strategy?

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Minister of Economic Development and Tourism , Mr. Todd .

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. First of all, I appreciate the comments of my honourable colleague. I think the report is somewhat reflective of the conditions that exist in the territories today. I did say last week that we want to take a two-pronged approach. You have the highway system and then you have the east. Hopefully, we will pursue that.

The response we have had to date, although it is not overwhelming because it is still very much in the consultative stages, has been generally receptive to the report so far. I am hoping that some time in the new year, we will be able to consolidate the views of everyone and move forward on this approach that I alluded to last week in my speech to try to get a greater focus on tourism development. And more importantly, at least in my eyes, try to put the marketing and the tourism development into the hands of those who are directed affected, rather than in the hands of the government. Thank you.

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Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Koe .

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Mahsi, Madam Speaker. I thank the Minister for that response. In the Minister's covering letter on the report, the Minister stated that consultation was extensive in developing the strategy. My supplementary question is how extensive was the consultation in developing this strategy?

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Economic Development and Tourism , Mr. Todd .

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

From what I remember -- it was some time back when this consultation took place -- they discussed with tourism operators, some of the zone associations, individual people who are involved in tourism, chambers of commerce, some aboriginal groups, airlines, et cetera, in an effort to renew a tourism strategy that is reflective of the 1990s. The last time a tourism strategy was put in place was 1988 or 1989. So this was an effort to try to bring up to date where we should put what limited money we have and where we should put our effort. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Mahsi, Madam Speaker. The study has been done and you are now receiving feedback. There was some reorganization going on, as you mentioned a few days ago in this House. So what happens next? What is the follow-up to this strategy?

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

As the honourable Member has said, Madam Speaker, we are seeking public input to confirm that some of the directions we have developed in this strategy are correct. Hopefully, we will have that done by year end. We have studied the reorganization in terms of how we would view tourism with respect to a highway system versus a non-highway system. I am looking for a little more public input on whether we move it out of the department and put it in the hands of the private sector. That would be my personal preference, but we want to make sure that is where the industry wants to go.

Hopefully, in the early part of the new year, we are up and running and moving forward in some of the changes that need to take place.

We indicated earlier in the year in our decentralization initiatives, where we gave significant new authorities to the superintendents, we have done exactly the same thing with the tourism budgets. We said the budget should be in the regions, whether it is for marketing or for development and the regions, particularly the regional offices, have got a responsibility and obligation to consult with the industry. The industry should have direct influence on where that money should be spent.

So I am optimistic over the next three or four months that that will be in place and there will be a very strong regional thrust to it, but I need about another two months to make sure we are on the right track and to get on with the job. Thank you.

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Thank you. Final supplementary, Mr. Koe .

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Mahsi. That is the issue: to get on with the job and develop the industry. In the report, the last

chapter outlines what the NWT has to do to develop the industry, but there is no real action plan. I can compare that to the strategy 2010. There is an implementation strategy in there. I am just wondering if the Minister is now going to be looking at developing an implementation strategy.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

We know what our dollars are going to be and we know what they have been historically. So we know what money is available. We are trying to put the fiscal responsibility in the hands of the regions. We don't have an implementation plan in there because we want the regions to develop that with the resources that they have. I am somewhat frustrated, as I am sure the honourable Member is, that we have been going around and around on this issue for a number of years.

I believe that the steps we have taken: one, to take a more focused approach when it comes to east and west is important because you have a highway system plus an air system; two, we have given significant, almost all, the fiscal authority into the regions, except for a few generic things that we do, a 1-800 line and some of the marketing we have done;

and, three, we have instructed our superintendents that they had better work closely, and will work closely with the industry, to develop strategies that are responsive to their needs and to work with the industry and determine where we spend what limited budgets and money we have in tourism development.

I'm optimistic that, for example, Mr. Koe 's area, which is an expanding tourist area -- and he's very fortunate, because some others aren't -- should be determining where we spend money when it comes to tourism development and marketing. That's what we intend to do, not having direction come from someone sitting in Yellowknife in a civil service job. Thank you.

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Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Antoine .

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Mahsi, Madam Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Transportation . I believe that, in order to build an economy in the Northwest Territories, we have to build infrastructure, especially a highway system in the north.

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Yes, and building small bridges across rivers.

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Inuvik

And access roads.

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

I would like to ask the Minister what his department is doing to look at continuing the road north along the Mackenzie River past Wrigley. Since we built the road up to Wrigley now and last summer, during its official opening, statements were made that we shouldn't see that as the end of the highway but, rather, as a continuation of the highway north. I would like to ask the Minister what his department is doing with regard to looking at the possibility of continuing the road north along the Mackenzie River? Mahsi.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Discussions have been under way for some time now with a number of people in the area close to Mr. Antoine 's constituency and the Sahtu with respect to the possibility of developing a hire north kind of approach to expanding this highway, similar to what was done in the early 1980s. Frank Pope, who lives in that area, has been instrumental in trying to bring people together in an effort to put forth some sort of proposal where we, along with the federal government, could look at expanding that highway. Thank you.

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Madam Speaker. The department is working with the people in these communities to develop some sort of a proposal. I would like to ask the Minister, is his department funding a committee to develop this proposal? Thank you.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Actually, the strong political proponent of this idea of expanding the highway has been the Hon. Ethel Blondin-Andrew. She has been very active at the federal level in that particular area. We've given some technical and moral support to the group. The honourable Member knows the limitations we have right now. We have already cut our budget by $1 million because of restraint and it will require a collective approach between the federal and territorial governments.

The discussions that are under way are not being financed by anybody. They are just being done on a voluntary basis at this time, Madam Speaker.

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you. Is the Minister aware if his department is working along with the political group to develop this proposal? How is his government working with the group? Thank you.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Well, if I can just step back a little bit, some time ago Mr. Pope came to me and asked if we would consider looking at a creative way to extend this highway. I said to him at the time that there was a limitation of dollars.

We have no new dollars, let's make that clear, no new dollars. Half of our budget is already spent on highways, $20 million, which I said yesterday. But, I said I was prepared to provide him with any support he required, technical support of the people from our office, and whatever political support he required to try to convince the federal government that continuing this highway is important. That's what we are doing right now. We are providing support to him, on a technical basis, when it's requested. Thank you.

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Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife North , Mr. Ballantyne .

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Michael Ballantyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I have a question for the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs. It has to do with an outstanding $4 million tax bill owed to the city of Yellowknife by delinquent ratepayers. My understanding is that there was a mechanism up to four years ago where the city could seize the property of delinquent ratepayers, but the court struck that down and now there is a loophole. So, my question to the Minister of MACA is, what is she going to do to close this loophole so that the taxpayers of Yellowknife can receive some relief?

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Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Ms. Mike .

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

I'll take his question as notice and get back to him as soon as I can.

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Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Lewis .

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Madam Speaker, I would like to address this question to Mr. Todd , who is very popular today. In the 1960s, Madam Speaker, a tremendous number of pilots made their reputations supplying the north. One of the innovations was the non-directional beacons so that when they got to a place, they knew they were where they were supposed to be. The other one was the development of tundra tiles by Mr. Weldy Phipps from Resolute Bay so when they got to that beacon at least they could land on these large, inflated tiles.

But, I'm told by my pilot friends that the biggest innovation that would help northern transportation and affect the lives of many of our people who spend many hours in the air, is the development of a global positioning system. I would like to ask the Minister, I know this is an area where we don't have all the jurisdiction that we would like to have, but to what extent is the global positioning system now being used in the air transportation industry in the Northwest Territories?

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Minister of Transportation , Mr. Todd .

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I was a white-knuckled flyer and I concur with the honourable Member that we need to improve our global transportation systems. We've had extensive discussions with the Ministry of Transport to try to get the GPS into effect in our airports. We are currently looking at the possibility of some pilot projects in the Arctic. We are aggressively pursuing an extension of this whole program. Thank you.

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