Debates of June 14th, 2001

This is page numbers 229 - 260 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was program .

Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

Assent To Bills

National Public Service Week

Employee Recognition Day

Award-winning Employees Of The Department Of Resources, Wildlife And Economic Development

Advanced Training Fund For Oil And Gas Industry

National Aboriginal Day

Reconciling Environment And Development Issues

Great Slave Lake Fishing Industry

Impacts Of Proposed Highway Toll On Income Support Clients

Community Services Boards

Health Professionals Recruitment In The Beaufort Delta Region

Youth Smoking In The Northwest Territories

Western Arctic Leadership Program

Accessing Northern Employment Programs

Making Healthy Lifestyle Choices About Energy

Recognition Of Long-serving Teachers In Hay River

Recognition Of Organizations Combating Family Violence

Samuel Hearne Secondary School Track Team Accomplishment

Release Of Bishop Sperry's Book

A Legacy Of Clean Water

Return To Oral Question 50-14(4): Operational Change At Stanton Hospital

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Privatization Of Laundry Services At Stanton Hospital

Impact Of Cost Of Living On Income Support Clients

Consultation On Hydroelectric Development

Youth Access To Tobacco

Mandate Of The Intergovernmental Forum Secretariat

Aboriginal Languages Contribution Agreement

Linking Reorganization And Restructuring Initiatives

Western Arctic Leadership Program Funding

Recruitment Of Health Professionals In Inuvik

Social Agenda Conference

Deh Cho Influence In Pipeline Development

Return To Written Question 3-14(4): Fuel Rebate Program

Tabled Document 20-14(4): Gwich'in Comprehensive Land Claims Agreement Annual Report Of The Implementation Committee, April 1, 1999 To March 31, 2000

Tabled Document 21-14(4): Inuvialuit Final Agreement Implementation Coordinating Committee Annual Report 1999-2000

Tabled Document 22-14(4): Sahtu Dene/metis Comprehensive Land Claim Agreement, 1999-2000 Annual Report Of The Implementation Committee

Tabled Document 23-14(4): Commercial Vehicle Trip Permit Act Consultation Documents

Tabled Document 24-14(4): Interactivity Transfers Exceeding $250,000 Within Departments April 1, 2000 To March 31, 2000

Tabled Document 25-14(4): A Quick Guide To Family Emergency Preparedness In The Northwest Territories

Tabled Document 26-14(4): Office Of The Fire Marshal 2000 Annual Report

Tabled Document 27-14(4): Letter From Premier Kakfwi Regarding Sole-source Contracting

Tabled Document 28-14(4): Letter From The Gwich'in Tribal Council Regarding Government Contracting Procedures And Approaches

Tabled Document 29-14(4): Letter From The Hamlet Of Aklavik Regarding The Closure Of Retail Gas Station

Bill 13:

An Act To Amend The Income Tax Act, No. 2

Establishment Of Independent Commission On Members' Compensation (carried As Amended)

Appointments To The Board Of Management (carried)

Extended Adjournment Of The House To July 23, 2001 (carried As Amended)

Bill 11: Architects Act

Bill 12:

An Act To Amend The Wildlife Act

Bill 6: National Aboriginal Day Act

Bill 7: Powers Of Attorney Act

Bill 8:

An Act To Amend The Motor Vehicles Act

Bill 9: Commercial Vehicle Trip Permit Act

Bill 10: Public Highway Improvement Fund Act

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

To Establish A Working Group To Oversee The Implementation Of A Human Resources Policy And Program (carried)

To Continue To Work Toward The Establishment Of An Independent Body Responsible For Safeguarding The Values Of A Professional Civil Service (carried)

Item 20: Report Of The Committee Of The Whole

Bill 1:

An Act To Amend The NWT Business Credit Corporation Act

Bill 4: Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 1, 2001-2002

Assent To Bills

Item 22: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Honourable Roger Allen , Honourable Jim Antoine , Mr. Bell , Mr. Braden , Mr. Delorey , Mr. Dent , Honourable Jane Groenewegen , Honourable Joe Handley , Mr. Krutko , Mr. Lafferty , Honourable Stephen Kakfwi , Mr. McLeod , Mr. Miltenberger , Mr. Nitah , Honourable Jake Ootes , Mr. Roland , Honourable Vince Steen , Honourable Tony Whitford .

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you for the prayer, Mr. Braden . Please be seated. Good afternoon, colleagues. I understand that Her Honour, the Commissioner of the Northwest Territories, is prepared to enter the Chamber to assent to bills. Mr. Clerk, would you please attend to and escort the Commissioner of the Northwest Territories into the Chamber.

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Assent To Bills

Assent To Bills

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Commissioner Of The Northwest Territories

Hon. Glenna Hansen

As Commissioner of the Northwest Territories, I am pleased to assent to the following bill: Bill 3,

An Act to Amend the Legislative Assembly and Executive Council Act. Thank you.

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Assent To Bills

Assent To Bills

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Please be seated. Item 2, Ministers' statements. The honourable Minister responsible for the Financial Management Board , Mr. Handley .

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Minister's Statement 22-14(4): National Public Service Week

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Joe Handley

Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, June 10th to the 16th has been declared National Public Service Week.

As the Minister responsible for the public service of the Northwest Territories, it is my pleasure to recognize the contributions made by the men and women who make up our public service.

I am proud to say that our public service is characterized by high standards of integrity, professionalism and dedication to service.

Employees of the public service are our most valuable asset. Their hard work and dedication allow the government to deliver services to the people of the Northwest Territories efficiently and effectively. These services encompass everything from the delivery of health care, social and community programs, to maintaining highways and managing our renewable resources and educating our children.

Mr. Speaker, on behalf of all of us, I would like to thank the men and women of the Northwest Territories public service for their many valuable contributions. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 22-14(4): National Public Service Week

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Handley . Item 2, Ministers' statements. The honourable Premier , Mr. Kakfwi .

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Minister's Statement 23-14(4): Employee Recognition Day

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, in my opening remarks to this Legislature at the start of this session, I briefly thanked the members of the Government of the Northwest Territories public service for a job well done. The third week of June is designated Public Service Week and so, today, I would like to elaborate on the important work that is done by our public service and to thank all Government of the Northwest Territories employees for their effort and dedication.

Our government employs approximately 4,000 people. Many of these employees have chosen to make their careers with our government and they have been with us for a long time. The work that our employees do, in service to all residents of the Northwest Territories, is what allows us as legislators to achieve the goals and reach the objectives that we establish for government. Our employees work hard to implement the direction we provide and to meet the needs of the people that we all serve.

This government is dynamic and responsive to the rapid changes and advances taking place in the North. Our employees have handled a great deal of change already, such as division of the Northwest Territories, and they have handled it with patience and professionalism. We will be facing more change in the years to come as self-government initiatives are implemented, as oil, gas and minerals and hydro are developed, and as the Northwest Territories reaches its full potential as a self-sufficient, vibrant and prosperous territory. I have every confidence that our able public service will be there to provide a continued high level of service as we move forward.

As Premier , my travels provided me the opportunity many times to meet and talk with public servants throughout the Northwest Territories, representing all departments, agencies and professions. We are continually impressed by the dedication with which our employees serve the public and the quality of the work they do.

We live in very exciting times and our future is bright. Bright futures favour talented, hard-working people. Our staff have more career choices than ever before. Other employers can offer them exciting northern employment opportunities as well. Our challenge is to retain our staff and provide them with workplaces that are supportive, and managers and supervisors who appreciate their contributions.

Although we presently have no formal process to recognize and honour our staff, we have today assembled a representative group of employees who exemplify the best qualities and achievements in our public service. This group includes three lifelong career employees who will be retiring this year; individuals who have been recognized nationally and internationally for achievements within their professions; and employees who have demonstrated through their excellent work an exemplary attitude and commitment to their jobs and their communities. In alphabetical order, these employees are:

• Rosalie Adams, Inuvik Regional Health and Social Services Board, Inuvik;

• Dr. Chuck Arnold, Education, Culture and Employment, Yellowknife;

• Gord Bohnet, Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Rae-Edzo;

• Violet Edgi, Inuvik Regional Health and Social Services Board, Fort Good Hope;

• Bessie Erasmus, Municipal and Community Affairs, Rae-Edzo;

• Doug Howard, Transportation, Yellowknife;

• George Mandeville, Public Works And Services, Yellowknife;

• Bob McLeod, Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Yellowknife;

• Kayhan Nadji, Public Works and Services, Yellowknife;

• Andy Norwegian, Deh Cho Divisional Education Council, Fort Simpson;

• Bob Sanderson, Financial Management Board Secretariat, Fort Smith;

• Faye Stark, Deh Cho Health and Social Services Board, Fort Providence;

• Julian Tomlinson, Aurora College, Inuvik;

• Lew Voytilla, Financial Management Board Secretariat, Yellowknife;

• John Wilderspin, Transportation, Norman Wells; and

• Ray Young, South Slave Divisional Education Council, Hay River.

To all of you, congratulations on your respective achievements, and thank you for a job well done. Mahsi.

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Minister's Statement 23-14(4): Employee Recognition Day

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Premier . Item 2, Ministers' statements. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Mr. Handley .

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Minister's Statement 24-14(4): Award-winning Employees Of The Department Of Resources, Wildlife And Economic Development

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Joe Handley

Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, as Minister of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development , I would like to congratulate two employees, Mr. Bob McLeod and Mr. Greg Hancock, who recently received national and international recognition for their achievements.

Mr. Speaker, the fur trade industry is important to many residents of the Northwest Territories. At the Montreal Fur Fair, the Fur Council of Canada sponsored a new award entitled Friends of the Fur Trade. This award recognized the work done by Mr. Bob McLeod when he participated on the Canadian delegation that negotiated a European agreement on humane trapping. This agreement set the standards which trappers use today to ensure that fur is harvested in a humane manner.

Mr. Hancock received the prestigious Silver REMI award at this year's Houston International Film Festival for two videos he produced -- the tourism video, Where Winter Begins, and the video called Genuine Mackenzie Valley Fur: Fur Fashion Show. This is a remarkable achievement since over 4,300 entries were received. These videos will be instrumental in marketing both our tourism and fur products, and gaining international recognition is really an honour.

Finally, as it is Public Service Week, I would like to thank all the employees of the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development for their contributions and hard work in fulfilling the mandate of this department. Thank you.

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Minister's Statement 24-14(4): Award-winning Employees Of The Department Of Resources, Wildlife And Economic Development

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Handley . Item 2, Ministers' statements. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Ootes .

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Minister's Statement 25-14(4): Advanced Training Fund For Oil And Gas Industry

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Speaker, NWT residents will have access to advanced training for the oil and gas industry as the result of an agreement to establish a permanent training site in the Northwest Territories. This is a cooperative venture involving a number of groups that have an interest in developing the gas reserves in the Northwest Territories. The plan was developed by industry and Aurora College in cooperation with aboriginal claimant groups, the Government of the Northwest Territories and the federal Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development.

Mr. Speaker, this opportunity is possible because of the GNWT's commitment to Maximizing Northern Employment. We are determined to give Northerners the opportunity to advance beyond entry-level jobs in the oil and gas industry. This program will provide the enhanced level of training for people to access skilled oil and gas positions. It will be delivered in the Sahtu, Beaufort Delta, Deh Cho and South Slave regions. Additional training-on-the-job subsidies will be made available to employers.

Mr. Speaker, the centrepiece of this exciting new training initiative is a plan to train drilling rig floorhands at a permanent training site to be developed near the town of Inuvik. This summer, Aurora College, using instructors certified by the Petroleum Industry Training Service in Alberta, will begin training floorhands on a drilling rig supplied by Akita Drilling.

The projects will create numerous jobs for Northerners and establish a northern infrastructure for future training in the oil and gas sector in such areas as drill rig floorhands, kitchen helper and camp attendant, truck training and drill sump research.

I should say, Mr. Speaker, for those who may be unfamiliar with the terminology, that a floorhand is a member of a drilling crew that also includes tool pushers, drillers, derrick men and motormen. Drilling companies usually promote from within. Floorhands are often groomed to move into more serious positions in the drilling rig operation. So while some individuals may be satisfied with the rewards of being a good floorhand, opportunities do exist for Northerners with the motivation, aptitude, leadership and teamwork skills to move from floorhand into a position requiring additional skills and training.

The training program lasts twelve days -- six in the classroom with a heavy emphasis on safety and six days on the rig itself working 12-hour shifts. This training is scheduled to run from July 30 to August 22. It is modeled on a similar program delivered by the Petroleum Industry Training Service for aboriginal trainees in British Columbia.

Needless to say, Mr. Speaker, I am delighted to announce this training and research initiative. This program, developed in partnership, will benefit both employers and potential employees in the NWT. That is exactly what maximizing northern employment is meant to be. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 25-14(4): Advanced Training Fund For Oil And Gas Industry

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Ootes . Item 2, Ministers' statements. The honourable Minister responsible for Aboriginal Affairs , Mr. Antoine .

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Minister's Statement 26-14(4): National Aboriginal Day

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Here in the Northwest Territories, we have much to celebrate, Mr. Speaker. The Dene, Metis and Inuvialuit peoples of the Northwest Territories have contributed greatly to our society. Our culture, language, customs and traditions are still an integral part of community life.

Last year, Mr. Speaker, the Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs contributed $24,000 to 18 different communities to help communities celebrate this day. Communities held canoe races, traditional games and dances, bannock and tea-making contests, community feasts and storytelling circles.

This year, the Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs will be providing support again to aboriginal community groups. We have received 20 proposals so far.

I am proud to say that my home community of Fort Simpson is planning a full day of activities. The day will start with a sunrise ceremony, followed by hand games, canoe races and a golf tournament. The day will end with a fashion show, talent show, a feast and drum dance. Residents in Trout Lake will be feasting on traditional foods at a community barbecue, and in Fort Liard, a traditional hunt is being organized by elders to teach the young people how to hunt on the land.

There will be some old time dancing in Tsiigehtchic and some traditional drum dancing in Fort Smith. In Fort McPherson and Deninu Kue, there will be community feasts. In Wha Ti, the entire community will be invited to celebrate with traditional games and a feast, and the elders will be teaching the youth traditional games.

In Tulita, the Metis will put on displays celebrating their heritage and culture, and in Deline, there will be hand games, a feast and a drum dance.

In Detah and Ndilo, the elders will demonstrate and teach traditional skills such as drum dancing and preparing hides. In Yellowknife, there will be a day-long celebration at Petitot Park.

As you can see, Mr. Speaker, communities up and down the Mackenzie Valley will be offering the public an opportunity to join in the celebrations. I would like to invite everyone to participate in celebrating National Aboriginal Day. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 26-14(4): National Aboriginal Day

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Mahsi, Mr. Antoine . Item 2, Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Krutko .

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Reconciling Environment And Development Issues

Item 3: Members' Statements

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker, I rise today on a controversial issue raised by the Minister of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development in an interview he did yesterday regarding the possibility of three dams on the Mackenzie River. I have received several calls from my constituency wondering what is going on.

I feel that before any statements are made or any ideas are put on the table, we should consult the people who are going to be affected, especially when we have for years been battling the Bennett Dam project in BC, where we have seen the effects up and down the Mackenzie Valley and the Mackenzie Delta regarding water levels.

Yet, Mr. Speaker, there has not been any consultation. This idea has come out of thin air. Mr. Speaker, we have seen what has happened in other jurisdictions in Canada, such as Quebec and the Quebec hydro projects, and also the effect of the Bennett Dam.

Mr. Speaker, I for one feel that there must be a time for debate. There must be a time to ensure people will continue to have water resources in the Northwest Territories. For us as a government to take such a hard stand at this time shows that there is definitely...

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Reconciling Environment And Development Issues

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

A point of order. Mr. Premier , what is your point of order?

Point of Order

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Reconciling Environment And Development Issues

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

The point of order is that the Member is referring to statements he believes he heard outside of the House. I believe there were statements by CBC, but definitely not by the Minister. In any case, we are not privy to what the Member is talking about. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

I think the honourable Member is making a statement on an item that was publicly broadcast. I believe it is not confidential information. It is out there in the public. I will seek...just a minute, Mr. Kakfwi . I am not finished yet. I will seek some advice on it.

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

As I was saying, this Member's statement is a response to what his constituents may be saying. In the Chair's opinion, there is no point of order. I will allow the honourable Member to continue with his Member's statement. Mr. Krutko , you have the floor.

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Reconciling Environment And Development Issues

Item 3: Members' Statements

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in regard to this issue, I think we as a government have to seriously separate the economics of what goes on within this government and environmental protection, ensuring that we have a department that is not joined at the hip, that they are two separate institutions who are responsible for protecting the wildlife and environment, and also ensuring that the quality of air in the Northwest Territories, the water and our environment is protected.

We as a government have to seriously look at the implications of these mega-projects regarding the accumulative effect of having so much of these developments taking place, on our water and on our air, and the effect on the people of the Northwest Territories, especially the aboriginal people, who depend on the wildlife, the fish who depend on water.

I feel that we have to seriously consider this issue in light of all of the projects that are taking place. With that, Mr. Speaker, I will be asking the Minister questions on this matter later.

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Krutko . Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Hay River North , Mr. Delorey .

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Great Slave Lake Fishing Industry

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Paul Delorey

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I would like to raise an issue concerning the fishing industry on Great Slave Lake. As we know, Mr. Speaker, the fishing industry is an important industry, both from a traditional point of view and from an economic point of view.

We also know, Mr. Speaker, that this industry is heavily subsidized by this government. I think this government puts in approximately $390,000 to both the summer and winter fishery combined. The current methodology to support this industry through subsidies is both outdated and ineffective. I think that is recognized by both government and the fisherpeople themselves, Mr. Speaker.

In the past few years, the fishing industry has not been able to utilize all of the subsidy because of the cost of fishing and getting around the lake to catch the right quotas to access the subsidy.

On May 31st, Mr. Speaker, I had the opportunity to meet with the Fishermen's Federation in Hay River, with representatives from RWED, Lloyd Jones, Paul Wiedrick, and Mike MaGeean. The purpose of the meeting, Mr. Speaker, was to look at the subsidy program and try to come up with a program that would be more effective to the fisherman, and give them some incentive to improve on their industry and to improve their equipment.

The new program that was talked about, Mr. Speaker, is more of a support program that I think will give the fishermen more incentive to do just that, increase the number of fishermen on the lake and better their equipment that they are using.

Also, Mr. Speaker, the new program that was talked about is a program that would be administered by the Fishermen's Federation themselves, giving them more buy-in and making it more beneficial to the fishermen.

I hope that RWED will continue to work with the fishermen in working through the details of this new program, and I look forward to some more talks with the Fishermen's Federation on this.

As we speak, Mr. Speaker, the fisherpersons in Hay River are doing last minute touch ups to their boat and their equipment, to head out for the summer fishery. At this time, I would like to wish them all the best in the summer fishery. I would also like to encourage this government to continue to work with them to better this industry. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Great Slave Lake Fishing Industry

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Delorey . Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for North Slave , Mr. Lafferty .

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Impacts Of Proposed Highway Toll On Income Support Clients

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Leon Lafferty

North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it is an unfortunate reality that many of my constituents rely on income support in order to get their basic needs met. Income support is a program of last resort. However, because there is little employment in the outlying communities, it is often the only resort for many of my constituents.

As I mentioned in the House on Tuesday, it is known that if the highway toll is implemented, all Northerners will face an increase in the cost of living. I know a tax credit has been designed to offset this and this will compensate income earners.

However, I do not see any compensation for people on income support. I am also concerned that in a sense, we as a government will be giving with one hand and taking with the other hand.

Income support payments are minimal to begin with, and the little assistance that there is will be eaten up through higher costs in grocery bills, higher fuel bills, higher travel costs and higher gas prices resulting from the toll, Mr. Speaker. Just this morning, I heard on the radio that airlines will increase travel and freight costs because of the new airport tax. This translates, again, into higher costs for all Northerners.

I know that the various government departments have looked at the cost of living and the implications of these new taxes. At the appropriate time, I will have questions on this matter, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Thebacha , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Community Services Boards

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I would like to briefly touch once again on the issue and concept of community service boards. Mr. Speaker, it is very clear that the people of Hay River are not happy with the current arrangement with the South Slave Divisional Education Council. I do have a copy of the report that was just done in terms of whether they have been treated fairly or not.

The report indicated that yes, Hay River is being treated fairly, but Mr. Speaker, I think there is an underlying issue here that has to be looked at. We have to look at the government's issues in the South Slave so that we can come up with a way of governing ourselves that is deemed appropriate by all communities. We have the Cuff report coming. We have a Social Agenda Conference coming. We know there is work being done on governance, and we know within the South Slave there is a chance of regional operations. It has been historically demonstrated that it is not a very viable form of governance.

I would hope that very soon we will be able to seriously look at this issue of community service boards as one way of possibly coming up with a form of governance that will be appropriate, that will allow communities to bring together under one board health, social services, education, housing and justice. This will limit their administration costs, improve program integration and do away with the needless friction between communities that causes so much stress and burns up valuable energy and resources.

Mr. Speaker, later today I will be asking the Premier where this particular concept fits in to the planning process, and when will the people of the South Slave and the individual communities be able to sit down with the government to talk about whether this is in fact a viable option. I believe it is. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake , Mr. Roland .

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Health Professionals Recruitment In The Beaufort Delta Region

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Floyd Roland

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to speak on a critical issue that has come up in the Inuvik Regional Health and Social Services Board. Mr. Speaker, I have been informed and have received a fax that notice has gone out on emergency services provided to many communities in the Inuvik region, and it notifies different communities of the times their health centres will go on emergency services only. Mr. Speaker, this is the second summer now that we are being impacted by centres that are having closures because of a lack of staff in all of the communities.

Mr. Speaker, I was aware this winter that the Inuvik Regional Health and Social Services Board had lined up a recruitment drive to try and get more nurses to deal with the shortages, and things were working out rather well initially. They had put a program together and were ready to do some recruitment overseas. When they contacted the department, they were informed they could not do that at that time. They had to work with the department to develop a process to deal with this recruitment issue.

Mr. Speaker, they had an opportunity to fill jobs. What we are seeing now, I believe, is definitely a direct impact as to the process that is being used now. I am aware that there has been ongoing work to try and improve the system between the department and boards, but right now, communities in the Beaufort Delta region will be impacted due to the lack of nursing once again.

Mr. Speaker, we have to put something in place to help out the health boards across the Northwest Territories to deal with the shortages. Mr. Speaker, if that means the department has to put more resources into dealing with these shortages, then they should do that, or allow the boards to go on their own recruitment drives. Later, Mr. Speaker, I will have questions for the Minister of Health and Social Services on this issue. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Roland . Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Yellowknife South , Mr. Bell .

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Youth Smoking In The Northwest Territories

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Brendan Bell

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wanted to talk today about youth smoking in the Northwest Territories. I know the Department of Health and Social Services recently released a document titled Smoke Alarm, and it is an environmental scan of smoking in the Northwest Territories. Indeed, many of the findings and statistics in this report are, Mr. Speaker, alarming.

A couple of things that I have browsed over really shocked me. One being that over 42 percent of the population over the age of 17 in the Northwest Territories smoke. That is much higher than the Canadian average. In regard to children, Mr. Speaker, in some of our communities, almost one-quarter of ten-to 14-year-olds smoke and three-quarters of 15-to 17-year-olds also smoke.

I think when we think about youth smoking, one of the problems is the fact that youth have such easy access to tobacco. A recent survey discovered that less than half of ten-to 14-year-olds attempting to buy cigarettes were asked their age, Mr. Speaker. I do not know about you, but most of the ten-to 14-year-olds in my neighbourhood do not look 18. It is certainly quite shocking, Mr. Speaker.

I think we need larger fines for merchants selling to children under 18, but more importantly, I think we need to focus on enforcement. We could do this, Mr. Speaker, but it would take this government making it a priority. We know we have liquor inspectors who go around to establishments on a weekly, sometimes daily, basis to make sure we do not have underage drinking or over capacity. The kind of effort we put into policing merchants who sell cigarettes pales in comparison to this, Mr. Speaker.

The Alberta Government just passed Bill 208, which is the Prevention of Youth Tobacco Use Act, and it allows for fines for minors smoking in public. There is some research, Mr. Speaker, to show that this kind of thing works. Woodridge, Illinois, a community just west of Chicago, has had similar legislation and enforcement. They are reporting 70 percent lower rates for youth smoking than other surrounding areas.

Mr. Speaker, I am not saying we need to start fining kids who smoke, but we do need to do more. We need to get creative. We need to follow the example being set by groups like the Non-Puffers Youth Group in Fort Providence that had such an impression on all of us. Mr. Speaker, in short, we need to encourage people to make healthy choices. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Bell . Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for the Deh Cho , Mr. McLeod .

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Western Arctic Leadership Program

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this weekend I will be joining the students of the Western Arctic Leadership Program for an awards dinner in Fort Smith and I want to make some comments on this program.

Mr. Speaker, this government, in cooperation with the education boards, extended grades into the communities. This has meant that a basic high school education is now available to students in their home communities. However, Mr. Speaker, this basic education does not meet the needs of all of the students in the communities.

Those who decide to pursue a post-secondary education soon come to realize that the basic education received in their home communities does not provide a sufficient academic foundation for success. Mr. Speaker, many of these grade 12 graduates find that they have to take academic upgrading to be successful in post-secondary education. The above-average students from the communities without an academic stream curriculum can apply to live in a residential setting offered by the Western Arctic Leadership Program and attend high school in Fort Smith.

Mr. Speaker, as you are aware, Fort Smith, as a larger regional centre, can offer students an education complete with access to labs, libraries and specialized academic teachers. The Western Arctic Leadership Program provides extra tutoring and leadership training that encourages students' success.

In short, Mr. Speaker, over the past ten years, the Western Arctic Leadership Program has provided students from up and down the Mackenzie Valley the necessary tools to succeed in post-secondary school or in the work force.

Unfortunately, Mr. Speaker, over the past five years or so, it has become a constant struggle for the program to raise enough funding to continue. It seems that every year, they must wait for this government to decide at the last minute whether or not they will receive core funding for the upcoming year.

This lack of support leads to uncertainty and does not provide the students with a sense of stability. This government is going to spend $11 million on the various components of the Maximizing Northern Employment Strategy and yet cannot provide core funding for a program that prepares young Northerners to take advantage of the opportunities that are available to them.

I strongly encourage all the DEAs and concerned parents to contact the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , the Premier and their MLAs to demand that the Western Arctic Leadership Program receive stable long-term funding to ensure its continued...

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Mr. McLeod , the time for your Member's statement has ended.

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

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Thank you, Mr. McLeod . The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Are there any nays? There are no nays. You may conclude, Mr. McLeod .

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In conclusion, Mr. Speaker, I want to say that maybe the Western Arctic Leadership Program should be part of a grandiose strategy like the Maximizing Northern Employment Strategy. At least then, it might get the attention it deserves. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. McLeod . Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe , Mr. Nitah .

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Accessing Northern Employment Programs

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Steven Nitah

Tu Nedhe

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yesterday in the House, I spoke about the Maximizing Northern Employment and how the design of it would not really benefit the outlying aboriginal communities because of the lack of capacity and infrastructure they have in those communities.

I want to encourage chiefs, councils and municipalities, Metis councils and non-profit organizations in those communities to familiarize themselves with this program so that they can get as much of that $11 million that has been designated in various areas from department to department. Contact the Department of Education, Culture and Employment and the right management organizations to utilize these funds. As this is a one-time thing only, there is no guarantee that this will continue. Let us try to utilize this as much as possible so we can benefit from it as much as possible.

It would be good if we could get innovative and work with other departments and see if we could work on something solid and concrete for the communities.

I mentioned the joint venture between the federal, aboriginal and GNWT governments yesterday in developing a building in Paulatuk. Those kind of innovative solutions would go a long way in training and employing our young workers out there who work in the communities, and also for building infrastructure towards a viable tourism development in our communities.

I have said many times in the House before that it is good to have mines, oil and gas, but those things are non-renewable. The economy of the future for the Northwest Territories will be tourism. The sooner we get ourselves ready for that industry, the better off we will be in the long run.

Again, Mr. Speaker, I encourage all organizations to go after this funding that is available now. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Nitah . Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Great Slave , Mr. Braden .

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Making Healthy Lifestyle Choices About Energy

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Bill Braden

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to talk today about lifestyle and the choices we make as we go about our daily lives. So often, Mr. Speaker, what we do is taken for granted. It is a matter of choice. We just go about doing the things we do. That can be things as basic as what are the foods we eat that are going to set the standards for the kind of health we have throughout our lives. Whether we decide to smoke or have a beer too many is going to set the standard for the health and how much we are going to cost ourselves, our families and the system.

Whether we read a newspaper or listen to a newscast, that will set the standard for how well we know our communities and what is going on around us.

Another choice that we make, and I think take far too much for granted, is how we use energy, Mr. Speaker. We make choices about leaving the lights on or turning the thermostat up, about the kind of homes we have. These are all things we need to be much more concerned about, Mr. Speaker, if we are going to be able to maintain sustainable and affordable energy. Especially, Mr. Speaker, as we assess the impact on our environment.

The newly formed Northwest Territories Climate Change Centre wants to do something about that. They are challenging those lifestyle choices we make about energy with the first Don't Drive to Work Week, which starts on Monday. The idea here is to encourage people to choose an alternative way to get to work. I think this is something that businesses and offices can have a look at and help the individuals join in there. There are some prizes that are being awarded for those offices that can demonstrate an 80 percent or greater rate of competition.

The event begins on Monday morning at City Hall here in Yellowknife, when participants can join together and walk over here to the Legislative Assembly for the launch.

Mr. Speaker, this event is starting in Yellowknife. Hopefully, it will roll out into the other communities. I would challenge everyone to think about the choices they make, especially as it relates to energy and the cost to the environment. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Braden . Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Recognition Of Long-serving Teachers In Hay River

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this time of year is a happy time for all students as they look forward to their summer vacation from school. I am sure that the teachers are also looking forward to this break. It is a time to celebrate achievements, especially as we recognize our graduates and mark this important milestone in their lives. It is also a time to recognize the dedicated efforts of those who teach our youth and who encourage them to work hard and to do the best that they can. It is important to thank teachers for their ongoing efforts for the lives and the example they demonstrate.

In Hay River, we are very fortunate to have some absolutely excellent teaching staff in our school system.

In addition to being a time of celebration, it is also a poignant time of year, as we must say goodbye to some of our dedicated teachers who are retiring this year. Diamond Jenness School is saying goodbye to:

• Graham Mitchell, with 30 years of service;

• Bruce Green, with 30 years of service;

• Pat Bernstead, with 26 years of service; and also

• Ray Young, who is currently the principal of the Diamond Jenness Secondary School, after 31 years of service in the North. I am pleased Mr. Young is being recognized here today and in the visitors gallery.

As well, Harry Camsell School is saying goodbye to:

• Joyce Young, with 25 years of service;

• Peter Austead, 35 years;

• Sylvia Boyer, 31 years;

• Jenny Turvey, 19 years; and

• Guy Turvey, who has taught for 24 years.

On behalf of the residents, parents and students of my constituency, I would like to express our gratitude and appreciation to all the teachers in Hay River for the exemplary job they do in educating and guiding our young people, and particularly thank those who are retiring. I look forward to attending the celebrations planned to honour them in Hay River this weekend. Thank you.

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Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . Indeed, congratulations do go out to the teachers, well appreciated. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Frame Lake , Mr. Dent .

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Recognition Of Organizations Combating Family Violence

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, family violence is a serious problem in the Northwest Territories. It has a significant negative impact on our society. As we are all aware, the Members of this Legislative Assembly unanimously supported a declaration on family violence in November in an effort to focus attention on and bring an end to family violence across the North.

Today, I would like to acknowledge some of the organizations that continue to make great efforts every day in the struggle against family violence.

Mr. Speaker, Alison MacAteer House is a 12-bed crisis shelter in my constituency in Yellowknife that offers a safe place for abused women and children to stay, as well as numerous support and counselling programs. In the past fiscal year, Alison MacAteer House provided shelter for 64 women and 93 children.

The shelter also operates a 24 hours a day crisis telephone line, and last year received more than 500 calls.

Mr. Speaker, the YWCA operates Alison MacAteer House and also provides several other family violence prevention programs. One of these is the recently introduced project, Child Recovery. This program provides support for children who are faced with violence in their homes by offering children a safe place to express their feelings and to improve their self-esteem.

Last September, in partnership with the Yellowknife Women's Centre, the YWCA also established the Women and Children's Healing Recovery Program. The program, which supports women during their healing and recovery from traumatic experiences, has already received 91 applications from across the Northwest Territories in the first eight months.

The Northwest Territories Seniors' Society is another organization actively involved in the struggle against family violence. On May 17th, I was very pleased to take

part in the Taking Action on Elder Abuse Workshop hosted by the Seniors' Society. Elders, caregivers and other interested parties from Yellowknife and surrounding communities participated in the workshop in an effort to develop an action plan to eliminate elder abuse throughout the Northwest Territories.

Mr. Speaker, I salute these organizations for their continuing efforts to bring an end to family violence. They are key players in a large group of NGOs and individuals in the Northwest Territories working in the field of family violence. Mr. Speaker, we must all be prepared to speak out on family violence. We must all be prepared to step in to stop family violence. When that happens, Mr. Speaker, and only then, can we stop family violence. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Dent . Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes , Mr. Allen .

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Samuel Hearne Secondary School Track Team Accomplishment

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Roger Allen

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As the sporting events conclude for the school year, once again the Inuvik athletes share the spotlight. I am proud to state that the Samuel Hearne Secondary School has been declared the top school team based on average team points for the 2001 NWT Track and Field Championships held in Hay River last week.

As the Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes , I wish to congratulate the dedicated coaches, Kelly Webster and Heath Israel, and the team members for having a successful track meet. The Samuel Hearne Secondary School team members consisted of Heidi Harry, Neha Sharma, Kayla Hansen-Craik, Tamara Hansen, Paul Carriedo, Shane Gordon, Liesbeth de Klerk, Pat Tingmiak, Dennis Dosedel, Tim Robertson, Gerald Kisoun, Corbus de Klerk, Daniel Fehr, Ian Rogers, Thea Rogers and Royce Suchodolski.

I also wish to acknowledge the outstanding efforts of these young athletes who made up the Samuel Hearne Secondary School Track Team. I particularly wish to acknowledge the efforts of Heidi Harry. She was awarded the gold medal for the bantam girls. Heidi placed first in the 400 metre, first in the high jump, second in the 800 metre, and third in the 1,500 metre.

Shane Gordon was awarded a silver medal for the juvenile boys. Shane placed first in the 5,000 metre, first in the 800 metre and first in the 1,500 metre. Another young athlete who is worthy of mention is Corbus de Klerk, who competed in the senior category. He placed first in the 800 metre, first in the 1,500 metre and first in the 5,000 long jump.

This track team should be proud of their accomplishment of being recognized as the top school team at this prestigious track meet in which over 1,100 young athletes participated. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Allen . Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Ootes .

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Release Of Bishop Sperry's Book

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Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am very pleased today to share some very good news, that is the publication of Bishop John Sperry's book, Igloo Dwellers Were My Church. I am proud to say Bishop Sperry is one of my constituents.

In this very noteworthy book, Bishop Sperry tells the story of the life of he and his family while he was a missionary with the Inuit people in the Kitikmeot region of what is now Nunavut. He knew from a young age that he wanted to be a missionary in the Canadian Arctic. A series of coincidences, which he explains as the mysterious ways in which God moves, resulted in his coming to Coppermine, now Kuglugtuk, in 1950 as an Anglican missionary.

This is a fascinating slice of first-hand history of a unique time in the Kitikmeot. It begins when the Inuit were still living in traditional nomadic groups and continues into the time when they began living permanently in communities. To serve his parish, John Sperry first had to learn Inuktitut. He became so fluent he was able to translate the gospels and acts of the New Testament and several other documents of the Anglican faith into Inuinnaqtun.

This allowed the Kitikmeot Inuit to worship in their own language for the first time. John Sperry travelled approximately 3,000 miles a year, by dog team in winter and by boat in summer, serving his parishioners in the far-flung camps. He brought them not only the word of God, but also mail, news from other people in the region and medical and dental services.

Bishop Sperry's book is not only a record of the traditional ways of life in the Kitikmeot in the 50s and 60s, but also a personal account of a family man much admired for his sensitivity and compassion. He and his wife Elisabeth are still warmly loved by all those whom they have served. They are appreciated for their kindness and help during both good times and bad times, such as epidemics and food shortages. Mr. Speaker, I would like to publicly express my gratitude to Bishop Sperry for writing this very significant book, which preserves this unique window of time in the history of the Arctic.

I urge everyone to join me in congratulating Bishop Sperry on the publication of this book. Thank you.

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Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Ootes . Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Weledeh , Mr. Handley .

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A Legacy Of Clean Water

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Joe Handley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, over the past two years, many people have expressed concern to me about water quality. The North Slave Metis Alliance and Metis elders in this area have talked to me frequently about the need to manage our water very carefully.

Last week, I held a constituency meeting for the people of Detah and Ndilo. A number of elders, including George Blondin, Alfred Ballairgeon and Michelle Paper, spoke on the legacy of clean water they had received from their elders. They reminded me of my youth, a time when I remember being able to drink from any stream without concern for my health or the health of the creatures that live in the water.

The elders in Detah and Ndilo feel strongly about preserving clean water for generations to come, so much so that they personally requested I raise this issue in the House. At my constituency meeting, the elders spoke eloquently about what they have seen happen to water quality in their lifetime. They spoke about the impact of mining and community development, especially in the early days of Yellowknife when people became ill from raw sewage flowing into Yellowknife Bay and Back Bay.

Mr. Speaker, clean water is a legacy that the people of Yellowknife, Detah and Ndilo want their children to inherit. As MLA for Weledeh, I support this desire and I will continue to work with the other Yellowknife MLAs to ensure that we make this happen. Thank you.

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Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 237

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Handley . Item 3, Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Health and Social Services, Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Page 237

Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Dent on Monday, June 11, 2001, regarding the operational change at Stanton Hospital.

Privatization of laundry and housekeeping services was included in the board's proposed deficit recovery plan. Although the proposed deficit recovery plan has not been finalized, I gave final approval of the privatization initiative on March 27, 2001.

Privatization of these services will involve the elimination of nine positions at the hospital. The Stanton board has worked closely with the department, the Financial Management Board Secretariat and corporate human resources to ensure that all requirements of the collective agreement and Staff Retention Policy are followed.

On April 25, 2001, the Stanton Regional Health Board issued letters to housekeeping and laundry staff advising them of their affected status. This procedure is consistent with the Government of the Northwest Territories Staff Retention Policy. Board staff have held initial meetings with affected staff to discuss their options under that policy, and will continue to work with them until all decisions are made. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Page 237

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Madam Minister. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for the Deh Cho , Mr. McLeod .

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Page 237

Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to recognize a couple of people today. I cannot see who is all up there, but I wanted to recognize Faye Stark, a long-time resident and nurse from Fort Providence who is here today. Also, my brother, Bob McLeod, a former resident of the Deh Cho and deputy minister of RWED. Both have received a public recognition award today and I would like to congratulate them and welcome them both. Thank you.

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Page 237

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Thebacha , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Page 237

Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I as well would like to take this opportunity to recognize Mr. Bob Sanderson, superintendent for FMBS out of Fort Smith and also one of the house parents for the Western Arctic Leadership Program. One of the lesser lights, his wife is obviously the main force in that relationship, but I would like to recognize him and congratulate him as well on being recognized. Thank you.

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Page 238

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for North Slave , Mr. Lafferty .

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Page 238

Leon Lafferty

North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to recognize four of my constituents in the gallery. Two of them are recipients of a long-service award, Bessie Erasmus and Gordon Bohnet. Bessie's husband Joe is accompanying her. Gordon is being accompanied by his wife Mabel Eronchi. Thank you very much.

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Page 238

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Page 238

Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it is my pleasure today to recognize Mr. Ray Young. I met Ray approximately 28 years ago when I first came to Hay River as an impressionable 18-year-old. We shared a few shifts at the RCMP detachment, working midnight shifts as guards. He also taught two of my children. I would like to pay tribute to him today. Thank you.

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Page 238

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake , Mr. Roland .

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Page 238

Floyd Roland

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am glad to have the opportunity to recognize someone from my constituency in this House. I would like to recognize Julian Tomlinson, a very dedicated worker in Inuvik, who works for the Aurora Campus. As well, he has put himself greatly into other community activities. I would like to welcome him here today.

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Page 238

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Roland . Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for the Sahtu , Mr. Kakfwi .

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Page 238

Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to recognize Violet Edgi from Fort Good Hope and John Wilderspin from Norman Wells, who are joining us in the gallery today. Thank you.

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Page 238

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Kakfwi . Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe , Mr. Nitah .

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Page 238

Steven Nitah

Tu Nedhe

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to recognize, acknowledge and congratulate all the recipients of the long-time service awards. I would like to single out Mr. George Mandeville, who is originally from Fort Resolution, as a long-time friend, mentor and advisor to me. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Page 238

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

An advisor to many of us. Thank you, Mr. Nitah . Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Weledeh , Mr. Handley .

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Page 238

Joe Handley

Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, I would like to recognize some people. A couple of them are really well known here. First of all, I would like to recognize Lew Voytilla. Lew Voytilla, as you all know, received a national award a few weeks ago. We congratulate him on his exemplary service in the public service.

I would also like to recognize Liz Snider, the secretary to Cabinet, and one of my good constituents, Kayhan Nadji, who works with Public Works and Services. Thank you.

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Page 238

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Handley . Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Hay River North , Mr. Delorey .

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Page 238

Paul Delorey

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also would like to recognize a good friend of mine in the gallery. He is not a constituent of mine, Ray Young. I know he has already been recognized, but I would like to recognize him as well. He came to Hay River about the same time I did, about 31 years ago. I would also like to wish him well in his new career that he is about to undertake in the golfing world.

-- Laughter

I would also like to congratulate all of the long-service award recipients who are up there. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Page 238

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Delorey . Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Thank you all for coming to the Legislative Assembly and participating in the day's activities. Congratulations and happy retirement from this day onward.

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Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Frame Lake , Mr. Dent .

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Question 83-14(4): Privatization Of Laundry Services At Stanton Hospital

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 238

Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, on Monday, June 11, I asked the Minister of Health and Social Services about privatization of laundry services at Stanton Hospital. In her responses on pages 298 and 299 of unedited Hansard, the Minister stated she had "...heard of board deliberations around the issue of privatization." She went on to say, "I am not sure of the time lines or what the status is of any decisions around that are at this point in time."

Mr. Speaker, yesterday in response to a question about the privatization of the laundry services, she told the House, and I quote again from unedited Hansard, page 486, that she "...signed off on the approval of those as per the recommendation, advice that I was provided with." She confirmed that again in her response to the oral question that she just provided the House a few minutes ago, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, if the Minister forgot that she signed off on this initiative in March, it calls into question the process. I would like to ask the Minister, how detailed was the examination of this initiative?

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Question 83-14(4): Privatization Of Laundry Services At Stanton Hospital

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 239

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Dent . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Health and Social Services, Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Question 83-14(4): Privatization Of Laundry Services At Stanton Hospital

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 239

Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as I indicated in previous questions the Member asked on this subject, the negotiations and discussions took place between senior officials in my department and senior officials with the Stanton Board and senior management. I was not directly involved in those discussions, but acted on the advice that came to me from my department as a result of those discussions being concluded. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 239

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . Supplementary, Mr. Dent .

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Supplementary To Question 83-14(4): Privatization Of Laundry Services At Stanton Hospital

Question 83-14(4): Privatization Of Laundry Services At Stanton Hospital

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 239

Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Minister did say yesterday that she signed off on this decision. She is taking ultimate responsibility for having made the decision. Again I would ask, was she satisfied that this initiative was looked at in some detail? Has she satisfied herself of that?

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Question 83-14(4): Privatization Of Laundry Services At Stanton Hospital

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 239

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Dent . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Health and Social Services, Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Further Return To Question 83-14(4): Privatization Of Laundry Services At Stanton Hospital

Question 83-14(4): Privatization Of Laundry Services At Stanton Hospital

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 239

Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yes, I was the one who was responsible for final approval of those decisions on the privatization initiatives. I was satisfied with the advice that was provided to me in the preparation of those communications to the chair of the Stanton Board, Mr. Elkin, before forwarding that correspondence. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 239

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Madam Minister. Supplementary, Mr. Dent .

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Question 83-14(4): Privatization Of Laundry Services At Stanton Hospital

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 239

Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. According to

section 38.02 of the collective agreement between the UNW and this government, the employers are required to "provide information, including the rationale relevant to the work that is being reviewed for the potential of contracting out." If this was followed as part of the whole detailed process that the Minister is confident was followed, will she please table that rationale in this House?

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Question 83-14(4): Privatization Of Laundry Services At Stanton Hospital

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 239

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Dent . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Health and Social Services, Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Question 83-14(4): Privatization Of Laundry Services At Stanton Hospital

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 239

Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the initiative came forward from the Stanton Board and the senior staff at Stanton. We would expect that all authorities, policies and regulations would be adhered to. Due to the delegative authority and autonomy of the boards, I would have to check to ensure that it would be proper for me to provide that rationale in the House for tabling. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 239

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Madam Minister. Final supplementary, Mr. Dent .

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Question 83-14(4): Privatization Of Laundry Services At Stanton Hospital

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 239

Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the collective agreement between the UNW and this government is not between the UNW and the hospital board. It is between the UNW and the Government of the Northwest Territories. If that is set out in that agreement, then this government must make sure that was followed.

I am asking, and I will ask again, will the Minister table the rationale that was provided pursuant to

section 38.02 of the collective agreement between this government and the UNW?

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 239

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Dent . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Health and Social Services, Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 239

Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as I said, I will have to check with the department and the board on that, so I will take that question as notice. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 239

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you. That final question has been taken as notice, Mr. Dent . Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for North Slave , Mr. Lafferty .

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Question 84-14(4): Impact Of Cost Of Living On Income Support Clients

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 239

Leon Lafferty

North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister responsible for Education, Culture and Employment , the Honourable Jake Ootes .

As I mentioned in my Member's statement, it is known that the cost of living for Northerners will increase. The airport tax has been introduced and all the airlines are talking about increasing air and freight rates.

Mr. Speaker, if and when the highway toll is implemented, Northerners will have additional costs. Does the Minister plan to increase income support payments to reflect increases in the cost of living for those who receive it? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 239

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Ootes .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 239

Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is a very good question and an issue that we have been aware of, Mr. Speaker, once we looked at some of the areas of costs that could impact individuals. We just completed a survey, Mr. Speaker, to look at the increase in food prices across the Territory and we are looking at some changes in our program. We also are taking some time to look at the impact of the taxes that may come in to see what kind of impact it will have. At that point, we will look at additional changes if warranted. Thank you.

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Leon Lafferty

North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Increased prices of food, groceries and fuel will happen if a toll is implemented in the Northwest Territories. I would like to ask the Minister if, whenever there is an increase of any sort, the department would look at coinciding rate increases for income support? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Ootes .

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Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We are going to, on an annual basis, look at reviewing the amount of income support that is supplied in relationship to changes that may take place, Mr. Speaker. I cannot guarantee that we will increase prices because it does depend somewhat on the impact of those increases and the percentage of increase it will cause, and certainly we will keep that mind. We have been thinking along that line. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Leon Lafferty

North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. With the increases in fares and freight on groceries in the smaller communities, the fly-in communities are hit the hardest. Where they used to get five bags of groceries, now they are getting only three bags of groceries. I would like to ask the Minister if he can give direction to his department and staff that anytime there is an increase, they will look at where the need is most. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Before I ask the honourable Minister to respond, I just want to caution the Member to be careful in the line of questioning here. You are going pretty close to some issues that are on the agenda for later today. I have allowed considerable latitude and I will continue to do that, but it is just a caution. The honourable Minister responsible for Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Ootes .

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Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I mentioned, we have just completed a survey and are looking at some changes, Mr. Speaker. The Member has a very good point. As increases are impacted upon people here in the Territories -- what area, how are we responding -- we will certainly be sensitive to any increases that come in. I cannot guarantee, though, Mr. Speaker, that we can react immediately to that because I think we have to look at this on a more regular basis and on a more consistent basis rather than reacting every time some increase comes in. Certainly I understand what the Member is getting at and we are prepared to look at this on a regular basis. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Minister. Your final supplementary, Mr. Lafferty .

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Leon Lafferty

North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister if he can look at the big picture for income support in all areas. Will the Minister agree with that? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Ootes .

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Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe the Member, in all likelihood, means transportation, food costs, fuel costs and so forth. I should state, Mr. Speaker, for those who might not be familiar, we do pay for accommodation and we do pay for fuel, so individuals are not impacted in that fashion. Certainly as I stated earlier in my reply, we will be sensitive to those that are out there on income support. We also will look at, if there are dramatic increases, to immediately do that, but on an annual basis or on a regular basis, I think is best. Thank you.

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Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Krutko .

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister responsible for Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development , Mr. Handley . It is with regard to the initiative that this government is looking at on the whole area of hydro development and his responsibility as the Minister for the protection of the human resource sector in regard to the wildlife and also the environment.

I would like to ask the Minister exactly when is he intending to ensure that the public is informed on these initiatives and exactly how they will be consulted when these developments happen by way of public meetings or information going out so that they can review it. I would like to ask the Minister exactly when was he planning to ensure that the public is involved in the consultation process of any of these initiatives?

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Thank you, Mr. Krutko . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Mr. Handley .

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Joe Handley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have been talking about the hydro potential within the system for several months now since they did the hydro generation study. We have recently had discussions with the people in the South Slave, particularly with the South Slave Metis, with the Salt River First Nations and some of the Akaitcho chiefs. I also attended and gave a presentation at the Dene chiefs meeting at which the Gwich'in were well represented, along with everybody else, a couple of weeks ago in Fort Providence.

I have also sent a letter out to all of the leaders indicating that I am ready and prepared to meet with aboriginal leaders to discuss the concept of hydro power, the pros and cons of doing it. I have an invitation, as I speak, to go to a number of assemblies, including the Dene Assembly, the South Slave Metis again, the Fort Smith Metis and so on. I expect to discuss this concept over the summer.

I want to point out, Mr. Speaker, that this is not at a proposal stage. This is simply a concept we are looking at. It has tremendous potential. It has tremendous environmental advantages for us. I think it has many positive sides in terms of the bigger picture of protecting our environment. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, that is well and good, but the people who are downstream from all these developments are the ones who are going to feel the impacts associated with those developments, from our experience with the Bennett Dam in BC. I would like to ask the Minister, when will you start considering looking at the implications in regards to the residents of the Northwest Territories with respect to the wildlife activities, and also the aboriginal rights relating to water and the management of those waters?

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Thank you, Mr. Krutko . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Mr. Handley .

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Joe Handley

Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, I have to comment on the use of the word "dams". The Member has brought it up in his question. I have never talked about building dams. We are talking about building flow of the river turbines, or hydro projects. Mr. Speaker, the Member earlier on made reference to me saying that we were going to build three dams on the Mackenzie River. I have checked the transcripts of all of the interviews I have done recently and I have never used the word or referred to building dams. I am not talking about dams.

CBC, I notice, have used the word dams fairly liberally. What we are talking about is flow of the river. It might back water up as high as the traditional high water mark, but we are not talking about dams like the Bennett River Dam and the Hoover Dam and those sorts of things. That is not what we are talking about at all. We need to clarify that.

This summer, as we go around, I want to talk to people about the pros and cons of harnessing some of our hydro potential. We have huge potential. I intend to do that over the summer, listen to what people are saying. Developing the hydro potential will go nowhere without aboriginal leadership support on it. As we get support from the leadership in general for the concept of hydro projects, then we will start to go into the communities and talk to people at that level about this. We will not go there without the concurrence of the aboriginal leadership. Thank you.

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as we all know, the Minister has two roles here. One is looking at the economics of the project and also the environmental and wildlife protection. I would like to ask the Minister, who is doing the work on this project? Who is looking specifically at the environmental impacts of these projects?

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Joe Handley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the whole reason for looking at hydro potential is because it is known to be the cleanest source of energy anywhere in the world. It is clean. It goes on for generations. It does not have any emissions like fossil fuels do.

My reason for looking at it is that I believe we need, over the long term, Mr. Speaker, to get our communities off fossil fuels and off diesel fuel and on to either gas as a cleaner fuel or, better yet, on to hydro potential. That is the cleanest thing we can do for our environment.

Mr. Speaker, we have not gotten into any detailed studies of the environmental impact of hydro projects because we are not at that stage yet. We are just talking about the concept. If, as I said earlier, aboriginal leaders are agreeable to it, then we will begin to work on the environmental impact of each of the many possible projects if we keep proceeding with this.

Mr. Speaker, really, when someone knocks at your door with an opportunity, you have to open the door and look at whether or not that is a friend, whether it is someone bearing a gift or an offer or whatever it might be. You cannot just cower in the corner, afraid to peek out the window because it might scare you and might be dangerous. You have to get out there and try it.

These things are long term. We have to open them up. We have to be open to new ideas. Let us have a look at it. If it is deemed to be something that is not worthwhile by aboriginal leaders, then we will not do it. This is long term. We are not talking about building dams next year. We are talking about a long-term project that I think, environmentally I believe, is the right direction to go. The detailed studies will be done if people agree with me. Thank you.

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