Debates of March 4th, 2015

This is page numbers 5949 – 5976 of the Hansard for the 17th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was deline .

Topics

Oral Questions

Members Present

Prayer

Proposed NWT Electronics Recycling Program

Aboriginal Languages Programs And Progress

Auditor General Report On Corrections In The Northwest Territories – Department Of Justice

Fort Providence Health Centre

40th Anniversary Of The Berger Inquiry

Maintaining Winter Road Infrastructure

Funding For Dechinta Bush University

Auditor General Report On Corrections In The Northwest Territories – Department Of Justice

Development Of Sports Centres Of Excellence

Trout Lake Airport Infrastructure

Fur Pricing Program

Winter Road Maintenance

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Developing Sports Centres Of Excellence

Winter Road Maintenance

Trout Lake Airport

Auditor General Report On Corrections In The Northwest Territories – Department Of Justice

Fort Providence Health Centre

Aboriginal Languages And Programs

Funding Health Promotion And Prevention Programs

Fur Pricing Program Review

Tabled Document 211-17(5): Special Committee On Transition Matters – Terms Of Reference

Tabled Document 212-17(5):

Summary Of Members’ Absences For The Period October 16, 2014, To February 3, 2015

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Report of Committee of the Whole

Bill 46: Deline Final Self-Government Agreement Act

Recorded Vote

Orders of the Day

Members Present

Hon. Glen Abernethy , Hon. Tom Beaulieu , Ms. Bisaro , Mr. Blake , Mr. Bouchard , Mr. Bromley , Mr. Dolynny , Mrs. Groenewegen , Hon. Jackie Jacobson , Hon. Jackson Lafferty , Hon. Bob McLeod , Hon. Robert McLeod , Mr. Menicoche , Hon. Michael Miltenberger , Mr. Moses , Mr. Nadli , Mr. Yakeleya

The House met at 1:31 p.m.

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Prayer

Prayer

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Welcome back, colleagues. I would like to make a few remarks before we begin.

My home community of Tuktoyaktuk was hit with a major winter storm on Sunday. Mayor Darrel Nasogaluak declared a state of emergency when blizzard conditions were responsible for a power outage that affected the entire community.

I am pleased to report that power has now been restored to the community. I would like to extend my thanks to Mayor Nasogaluak and his administration for ensuring that everyone in Tuk was well cared for during the power outage. Everyone was kept safe and warm.

A big thank you also goes out to the Northwest Territories Power Corporation for their work in restoring power. Their crews worked through the night to get the community back to normal.

I am always reminded of the true power of our communities when they pull together to look after each other. Thank you to all who helped out over the past few days.

Orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers’ statements.

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Minister's Statement 173-17(5): Proposed NWT Electronics Recycling Program

Ministers’ Statements

Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, regulated electronics recycling programs are in place or under development in all Canadian provinces and the Yukon Territory and we are making good progress on an electronics recycling program in the Northwest Territories.

Recycling electronics helps prevent harmful materials from leaching into the environment when disposed in landfills, burned or left on the land. Recycling old electronics into new products also minimizes environmental impacts related to extracting raw materials through mining and other activities.

In a survey conducted by the Department of Environment and Natural Resources in 2008, residents identified electronics recycling as one of the top three priorities for the territorial Waste Reduction and Recovery Program.

ENR began an electronics recycling pilot project in September 2013, which has collected over 20 tonnes of electronics at bottle depots in Fort McPherson, Norman Wells, Fort Smith and Fort Providence.

Through a competitive process, e-waste collected under the NWT’s program will be sent to a recycler in Alberta on a three-year contract. Recyclers will be required to be registered under the Government of Alberta electronics recycling program. This will ensure important environmental standards and employee health and safety standards are met, and will make sure no electronics are sent to countries where minimum standards are not in place to protect the environment and employee health and safety.

There is a cost to recycling the e-waste but these will be covered through the environmental handling fees charged on each new electronics product purchased in the NWT or purchased online. These fees range from $3 for a portable computer to $100 for large industrial printers.

ENR is currently drafting new electronics recycling regulations under the Waste Reduction and Recovery Act.

The program has been designed to ensure a level playing field for retailers. Proposed fees are comparable to program start-up fees in other jurisdictions and are no higher than the top end of fees in other Canadian jurisdictions. Measures will also be put in place to make sure all electronics suppliers are compliant with the regulations, including online electronics distributers.

From January 6 to February 16, 2015, stakeholders were invited to provide feedback on the proposed NWT electronics recycling program. These included industry associations representing electronics suppliers, NWT and local Chamber of Commerce offices, Arctic Co-op, Northwest Company, NWT Association of Communities, mines, Government of the Northwest Territories, Public Works and Services and the waste management service industry.

Most of the feedback received was from national and multinational electronics manufacturers, distributers and retailers. There was generally support for the program and no feedback was received expressing broad opposition to an electronics recycling program in NWT.

Comments from stakeholders included ensuring that environmental handling fees are set appropriately, delaying the program launch to avoid busy times for retailers, engaging industry in refining the product list and harmonizing the NWT program with other jurisdictions as much as possible.

The program will be funded by environmental handling fees charged to electronic suppliers on all new designated electronics sold in or into the NWT. Refunds will not be provided for electronics returned for recycling.

The draft regulations will be complete in spring 2015 and a territory-wide electronics recycling program is targeted to launch in fall 2015. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 173-17(5): Proposed NWT Electronics Recycling Program

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Lafferty .

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Minister's Statement 174-17(5): Aboriginal Languages Programs And Progress

Ministers’ Statements

Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, Aboriginal Languages Month is an opportune time to reflect on past successes and the work that lies ahead in continuing to promote, revitalize and preserve our nine official Aboriginal languages. We are all burdened by the truth that some of our Aboriginal languages are struggling, not because we are not doing enough to support them but because the challenges they face are complex.

Mr. Speaker, the good news is, however, that the Government of the Northwest Territories is partnering with Aboriginal governments, schools and the federal government to make a difference and reverse this trend. This collaboration is vital as success can only be achieved by working together, each doing our part. This is not about duplicating efforts and creating bureaucracy. It is about sharing in the responsibility and helping build one another’s capacity.

Mr. Speaker, the Government of the NWT invests $15 million each year to support and promote Aboriginal languages through:

• building the capacity of Aboriginal governments to implement their five-year regional language plans;

• funding culture and language programs in schools;

• funding language nest programs in daycares;

• supporting Aboriginal broadcasting;

• funding programs that increase the number of Aboriginal language instructors;

• developing Aboriginal language terminology;

• supporting specific Aboriginal language initiatives; and

• providing government services in Aboriginal languages where possible.

Mr. Speaker, these are the highlights of our actions, providing evidence that we are firing on all cylinders. Key to all of our efforts, however, is parents speaking their Aboriginal language at home with their children, and children embracing the learning of that language. Without that key ingredient our efforts can only go so far.

Mr. Speaker, administering support for Aboriginal languages is complex. To simplify our approach and provide the funding in the most straightforward way, as of April 1, 2014, all Aboriginal governments now have the control and flexibility to decide where best to allocate their funding. They have done their homework and have developed very rich regional language plans. Our job is now to support them in their efforts to implement them and give them time to assess what has worked best and where improvements can be made.

We are helping them in developing monitoring and evaluation plans for their accountability and measuring their efforts.

Mr. Speaker, we have listened to the advice of the Aboriginal governments and our elders; they are the ones on the ground in the communities. They see the decline happening before their eyes. But they also see pockets of progress: there are the children working with elders to create a dictionary; there are youth teaching others what they’ve learned; there are children sitting with community elders and learning from them; and there are communities rallying from the youngest to the oldest to ensure that everyone on the ground is reaching beyond their communities to share their languages with the world. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 174-17(5): Aboriginal Languages Programs And Progress

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Item 3, Members’ statements. The honourable Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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Auditor General Report On Corrections In The Northwest Territories – Department Of Justice

Members’ Statements

Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The office of the Auditor General of Canada released another excellent report yesterday. It’s their usual quality of work and I thank them for it. The first line of the Auditor General’s press release pretty much says it all: “The Department of Justice has not met its key responsibilities for the rehabilitation, safety and security of inmates within the correctional system.”

As the office of the Auditor General consistently does, their auditors look at NWT policies, procedures and mandates for correctional services and facilities, along with generally accepted nationally used requirements for correctional facilities.

Like other Auditor General’s reports on NWT programs before this one, I found it depressing reading. Depressing because we are not providing adequately for our inmates, and it is depressing because it confirms what we already know or suspected.

The report mentions two main areas as lacking: first, access to services and programs to assist inmates with rehabilitation, and second, safe and secure operation of correctional facilities.

The report is especially damning where short-stay inmates are concerned, stays of less than 120 days. One hundred percent of these inmates received no programming while they were incarcerated. If we expect to improve things in our territory, to stop the cycle of substance abuse, family violence and sexual abuse, it is imperative that we provide opportunities for rehabilitation of all inmates. The goal of incarceration should be to assess an inmate’s needs in regards to programming and then provide it so they can change their behaviour. Especially concerning to me is that programs to help with the mental health of inmates are not available.

The other area highlighted by the report was safety and security, and all of our facilities were found wanting. Management of the operations of these facilities does not meet the mark. The report points out a lack of such simple but necessary things as regular fire drills.

The Justice department has responded to all of the recommendations in the report and has agreed with them all. It’s good to see that agreement, but as is often said, talk is cheap. The proof of the department promises will be in their actions if, in six or 12 months’ time we have concrete improvements, such as better assessment at intake, programs to address all inmates’ needs – both while they’re incarcerated and on their release – and safe and secure facilities.

The Standing Committee on Government Operations will hold a public hearing on this report on May 21st with the Minister of Justice and department officials. At that time I look forward to hearing how the department will address the deficiencies in our correctional system. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . Member for Deh Cho , Mr. Nadli .

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Fort Providence Health Centre

Members’ Statements

Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. According to News/North, the Fort Providence Health Centre is on the verge of opening its doors. The keys to the new Fort Providence Health Centre were expected to be handed over to the Dehcho Health and Social Services Authority by January 30th.

Donna Allen, chief executive officer of the health authority, said work on the building started in 2013 and was expected to be completed by then. At the quarterly public administrative meeting on January 7th, Ms. Allen said they were also expecting equipment and supplies to be moved in by January 30th. She said a grand opening ceremony will be held at some point to mark the completion of the work, but a date has not yet been set.

The new facility was estimated to cost $11 million and the size is approximately 6,800 square metres, about one-third larger than the old health centre.

The latest information I’ve been able to gather is that the health centre hasn’t opened yet. Apparently work is still being done on the building and there is no tentative date for the opening. My constituents in Fort Providence are eagerly awaiting the opening of the health centre.

During oral questions I will have questions for the Minister of Health and Social Services . Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Fort Providence Health Centre

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Nadli . Member for Inuvik Boot Lake , Mr. Moses .

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40th Anniversary Of The Berger Inquiry

Members’ Statements

Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Forty years ago to the day yesterday, March 3rd, Justice Thomas Berger sat down in a community and listened to his first presentation on the Mackenzie Valley Pipeline Inquiry, which would become better known as the Berger Inquiry.

Last night I had the opportunity and the honour to attend the packed house at the Prince of Wales Northern Heritage Centre and listen to a presentation by Mr. Berger himself. All I can say is, it was amazing.

The Berger Inquiry was way before my time, and the stories that he shared, the information that he mentioned was something that was special to me because it helped guide the history of our territory. He talked about all his travels to the communities, how he played baseball with some of the local residents in some of the small communities, went fishing, took boats up around the Delta, just really great and authentic stories.

He also talked about how the Berger Inquiry actually put the North on the map for all of Canada, and there was also a very special moment when individuals who actually did a presentation at the Berger Inquiry actually stood up and got a round of applause from all the people who were in attendance last night. It was very strong and they were very special.

As we all know, the recommendations that came out of the Berger Inquiry dealt with the moratorium to deal with critical issues such as settling land claims as well as putting aside conservation areas. What his report did was helped create the Nahanni National Park and really amazing things like conservation areas before the pipeline went in. The Berger Inquiry set a standard for the Yukon as well as Alaska coming and asking Thomas Berger to come and do the same type of work in Alaska and the Yukon so they too can set aside conservation areas as well as look at how they can make things better in terms of this pipeline and the Berger Inquiry.

I’d like to encourage Members and the public to go to the Prince of Wales Museum. They have an exhibit called Thunder in Our Voices. It’s amazing; it’s part of our history and it’s a great educational tool, not only for Members and residents but even for the schools. He did mention that he spoke to a Grade 10 classroom yesterday, and they talked for about two hours just asking questions. So it was amazing, and I encourage all Members to check it out. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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40th Anniversary Of The Berger Inquiry

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Moses . Member for Hay River North , Mr. Bouchard .

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Maintaining Winter Road Infrastructure

Members’ Statements

Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As everyone knows, Hay River is the hub of the North. March is a very mad time of year. We have a lot of the shipping of fuel getting up to the northern communities. Right now tends to be a time when we get a lot of questions about the road systems, about how winter roads can be extended and how we can keep those roads open for longer.

We’ve been hearing lots of issues about cycles, the amount of money that the GNWT puts into road construction at the beginning and as well at the end. How do we keep these roads open? We’re getting a lot of questions and concerns from constituents and companies that are operating in those areas asking why are companies telling us we only have two more cycles to do road repairs, to fix roads, to grade them, to water them. It’s always about funding. It’s always about money.

I know we just spent a bunch of money this year in our firefighting system and fire suppression. I think roads are critical. We have people from the communities who travel down on these roads. Road safety is a very big concern for them. We have lots of trucks on the road. If those roads are in rough shape, it’s very unsafe for the general public and the travelling public.

Even this past weekend we had a truck roll over. One of the situations in that was the way the road was built. My concern is, and my question to the Minister of Transportation will be, why can we not put more money into the roads just like fire suppression if we have a rough year? If we have a tough year building roads, why can’t we ask for additional money? I think most of the Members on this side would be supportive of making sure the roads are safe for the general public. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Maintaining Winter Road Infrastructure

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bouchard . Member for Weledeh , Mr. Bromley .

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Funding For Dechinta Bush University

Members’ Statements

Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Dechinta, with leading indigenous professors co-teaching with northern leaders, is celebrating the fifth anniversary of a pilot project to test delivery of original northern university courses designed and developed in the North. It’s been a resounding success for the only land-based and independent university-accredited education provider in the Northwest Territories. It is now time to transition to an operational program in all regions.

The unique Dechinta model has no infrastructure expense. It is designed to be land-based and to use and support already built private regional lodges and camps. It focuses resources on student places and employing local First Nations people and elders as instructors, thereby supporting local and regional economies.

From their start-up in 2009, Dechinta established long-term research partnerships with the University of Alberta and McGill University, bringing hundreds of thousands of research dollars into the North. The Dechinta model works. It’s cost-effective; students love it; and First Nations support it.

Courses are focused on critical northern issues and topics, including an original minor in native studies. With equal weight on both academia and traditional land-based learning, there are now seven courses accredited by the University of Alberta and McGill University. Dechinta courses are now grossly oversubscribed with 97 applications for the 30 spots available so far this year. The fact that 100 percent of their 250 course graduates have gone on to either further post-secondary education or employment further reflects the success of their approach.

Currently, our students must travel south to get a university education, at both extra financial and social cost, but this may be changing. One prerequisite, though, is meeting the demands of the Education Act and recognizing Dechinta in legislation.

Dechinta has done the planning work needed to enable continued development and expansion into all regions of the NWT, which also makes strong economic sense. Establishing regional programs will provide six full-time and 32 part-time positions in each region comprised of elders and other community residents and meet the interests of students unable to secure a course place in the North Slave program, all while supporting existing private lodge and camp infrastructure.

I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted

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Funding For Dechinta Bush University

Members’ Statements

Bob Bromley

Weledeh

The opportunity to promote development of a made-in-the-North university with a curriculum tailor-made for northern students is not to be missed. In the words of founder Dr. Erin Freeland-Ballantyne, “we need to build a new generation of leaders and researchers who can walk confidently in both worlds and be change-makers.” The pilot has clearly demonstrated how. Now let’s put the financial and legislation support in place to put this unique model to work across the NWT.

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Funding For Dechinta Bush University

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . The Member for Range Lake , Mr. Dolynny .

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Auditor General Report On Corrections In The Northwest Territories – Department Of Justice

Members’ Statements

Daryl Dolynny

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday the NWT was witness to yet another scathing report of the Auditor General. This time it was on our corrections system. Members of the 17th Legislative Assembly are not immune to the ever-repeating saga of these types of poor department results, and we have only to reference the past child and family services, income support and daycare reports to familiarize ourselves with what many in this room know all too well.

Shamefully, it is only under the watchful eye and the written investigative powers of the Auditor General of Canada until departments or Ministers divert their attention from inaction to action.

We know the recent failure of this department’s attempt at correction services is now in the hands of committee, and I will leave it up to this committee to do its due diligence and report back to the House. My concern today is not this legislative process before the House but, more importantly, have our own laws been breached by department’s inaction in the wake of such report findings?

If I might quote from the report, “According to the Corrections Act, the Corrections Service Regulations and Corrections Service Directives, the department, through corrections services, is responsible for the administration of correctional facilities, including their safe, secure and efficient operation.”

Mr. Speaker, the Department of Justice by law may “investigate and inquire into any matter connected with or affecting the administration and operation of corrections service or a correctional centre.”

When one reads terminology such as serious deficiencies, have not assessed, did not adequately deliver, did not receive, was not offered, and did not conduct, these are serious words used repeatedly in this report by the Auditor General which point to grievous contraventions in our NWT Corrections Act.

Having great powers over man must come with equal responsibility of conduct. Unfortunately, with much sadness, this Auditor General report of Canada once again shakes the very foundation of trust bestowed on a department and its leadership. Let’s hope for better days to follow for those Northerners in our care.

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Auditor General Report On Corrections In The Northwest Territories – Department Of Justice

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny . The Member for Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Development Of Sports Centres Of Excellence

Members’ Statements

Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A lot of great ideas, a lot of great concepts and discussions start from an idea. The Northwest Territories is no stranger to a lot of great things happening in this great country of ours. In the early ‘60s they had a sports excellence program going very strong up in Inuvik called a TEST program where a lot of world-class skiers came about. The Firth twins, the late Fred Kelly, a lot of skiers came from that area and they had a good program, they had access to resources and they did well. So we know that our small communities can do well in any sports given the opportunity. That was an excellent idea. I would like to see that program come to life again.

Also, a lot of good ideas come from a lot of good people. For example, this morning I heard the people talk about the literacy program that happened in Ontario where these students increased their literacy ability by a great percentage. The Department of Education talked about a needs assessment in the Sahtu region. The number one issue for the Sahtu people was literacy. What if we had that program come into our small communities to increase the literacy in our small communities? That would be fantastic.

Another idea that I read about was Dr. Mini Silbert from San Francisco. She worked with 16,000 inmates with no professional help. That idea over 30 years, 90 percent of the inmates that she worked with went to high school, got a degree or went to work.

I think these ideas are going to be fantastic in the North. We have people like Brendan Green, Mike Argue and Brent Betsina all because they worked hard doing what they can do with the support they had. We have a lot of good teachers in our communities who also need to be acknowledged for the sports they’ve contributed to and the students who are now at the Arctic Winter Games. I want to say thank you to all the good people in the small communities for helping our young people, and I hope these ideas take some planning so we can grow them. Thank you.

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Development Of Sports Centres Of Excellence

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . The Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Trout Lake Airport Infrastructure

Members’ Statements

Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. The community of Trout Lake is proud of their new airport, which was fully commissioned and went into service in November of 2014. There is limited equipment in the community to take care of the 3,500-foot runway and the much larger apron. I was pleased that the Honourable Tom Beaulieu and the honourable Premier of the NWT viewed the new airport as we toured the Nahendeh communities in December.

I was also pleased that it was blowing cold as we waited outside as there was no air terminal building.

---Laughter

The Department of Transportation had wanted an official opening ceremony when the Minister of Transportation was there. The chief and council declined and wanted to have an official opening when all official pieces of infrastructure are in place. In fact, they said if we have a grand opening, then the department will just forget about our need for an airport terminal building and an airport snow blower.

An airport snow blower will be more efficient in removing snow build-up and reduce damage to runway light holders. The main advantages of such a snow blower are high clearing capacity, long casting distance, economical operation and speed of clearing. Safety considerations must also be part of a needs assessment, such as quickly removing snow in a medevac type of emergency. This is something that they cannot do with the grader that is in the community.

An air terminal building also has many benefits. The Ministers already know that keeping out of the cold is one of them. Already residents are saying that because the airport is about two kilometres away, they don’t always hear a small plane land. Some people have been stranded there and others have struggled as they made their way to the community with their luggage and supplies. Not to mention the benefits to medical staff as they await a medevac plane.

The Trout Lake Airport is a brand new piece of infrastructure which we all should be proud of, and the Department of Transportation must properly equip this runway with a proper air terminal building and a proper airport snow blower.

Capital planning is upon us shortly. I will ask the Minister of Transportation , during question period, to ensure that the airport capital needs of Trout Lake are taken seriously. Thank you.

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Trout Lake Airport Infrastructure

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . The Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Blake .

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Fur Pricing Program

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a concern from the community of Aklavik. Harvesters in the community would like to see an increase to the prime fur bonus for beaver, mink and also fox. I brought this issue up a couple of weeks back. You know, the populations are increasing on beavers and foxes, and also mink and otters, as well, but the advance that’s given for these animals is very low; $25 for a minimum payment under the Fur Pricing Program, which will be taken on by ENR on April 1st.

The amount of work that goes into working of the animals such as a beaver, the time you spend going out, trapping the beaver, skinning the beaver, cleaning the beaver, fleshing… That cost just doesn’t add up, and our harvesters would like to see that increased over the near future here in order to help manage the species.

This also has an impact on other species, whether its muskrats… You know, at the moment we have very good prices on muskrats but the populations are so low that we’re not meeting the needs.

I’ll have questions for the Minister later today. Thank you.

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Fur Pricing Program

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Blake . Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Winter Road Maintenance

Members’ Statements

Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In follow-up to my colleague’s from Hay River North statement on the necessity of this government to invest money in upkeep on our roads and our winter roads, I would just like to say that Hay River is a place where at this time of year we see a lot of visitors from the North that do come in on the winter road. It’s a very narrow window, and it is dictated a lot of times by the weather on a year-to-year basis. But it’s very nice when we see people pull into town from Fort Good Hope and Tulita and Colville Lake and the people taking advantage of that winter road.

The Hay River businesses very much appreciate them not continuing south, or turning north at the junction and coming here to Yellowknife. They come to Hay River to pick up vehicles, have vehicles serviced, pick up parts for their snow machines, to get resupplied for their groceries and their goods that they need for the year, and that is a very, very important piece of infrastructure for people who for the rest of the year do not have any means of driving out of their communities, and it is a narrow window.

As Mr. Bouchard said, if we have a bad fire season, we find the money. But if we have a bad winter road season, we sometimes go, oh well, let’s just close it down. I think that we need to really think about that.

This weekend we’ll see lots of folks coming in on all-weather roads and winter roads to the Kamba Carnival. It’s a great opportunity for families and friends to get together. March is carnival season and so we, again, will welcome many visitors to our community. Again, I just want to say how much we appreciate their support for Hay River, for Hay River businesses and for coming to our community. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Winter Road Maintenance

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery, Mr. Lafferty .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, I’d just like to recognize two of our Pages from Whati Community Mezi School. They are Caitlin Nitsiza and Rachel Simpson, along with chaperon, Louisa Nitsiza. I’d just like to say thank you for their services and all the Pages who are doing excellent work in this Assembly. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Mr. Yakeleya .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I would like to also recognize two Pages from Deline: Faith Gaudet, whose father is Danny Gaudet – it’s going to be a historical day for the Pages – and also Hanna Beyonnie, all the way back there, from Deline. Their paging today is ironic. It’s a coincidence that they’re paging at our Assembly this week. Also, some of the guests from the Sahtu are here. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . I’d like to welcome everyone here in the public gallery. Thank you for taking an interest in our proceedings.

Item 6, acknowledgements. Item 7, oral questions. Mr. Yakeleya .

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Question 739-17(5): Developing Sports Centres Of Excellence

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of MACA with regards to the idea or concept for a centre of excellence for athletes. I know we talked about this just this last week, looking at if this is an idea that’s floating around in his department to look at where there is raw talent in the communities in the North that can come together and start looking at what it will take to have a sports centre for these young people to come and excel, so that they can go either into the national or international arena and win some medals for the Northwest Territories.

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Question 739-17(5): Developing Sports Centres Of Excellence

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs , Mr. McLeod.

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Question 739-17(5): Developing Sports Centres Of Excellence

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. One of our sporting partners, Sport North, has put a business plan together for a proposed centre of sports excellence. We’re just in the process of reviewing that plan and we’ll try to work with our partners on the way forward.

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Question 739-17(5): Developing Sports Centres Of Excellence

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

I look forward to that business plan. That’s good news for this side of the table here.

I also want to ask the Minister, is there any thought to inviting some of the people in our small communities to have a discussion? Some of the discussions they had this morning with the Minister, some of our teachers in our small communities really contribute to sports in the communities. Deline has survived there for hockey. In Inuvik they had Ms. Peggy Curtis for badminton. Different teachers have played a big role in the lives in the small communities.

Do we have that type of avenue where these teachers or people in the communities could also be of assistance in developing some of this business case here?

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Question 739-17(5): Developing Sports Centres Of Excellence

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, the Member raises a very good point. A lot of the teachers that have gone through the communities in years past have contributed a lot to sporting development in the communities. I think we see it in the different communities around. One community might be good in basketball because they have a basketball coach there. So, they’ve contributed a lot.

We recently had a sport forum with many of our sporting partners, and we plan on having another gathering of our sporting partners. There are always ways through them that all those who are serving the communities can contribute to the process. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 739-17(5): Developing Sports Centres Of Excellence

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Part of this discussion that I’m alluding to would be the wellness of these young athletes. I just had a really good discussion up in the Explorer Hotel with a lot of really exciting people putting together some good wellness packages.

I want to ask the Minister also on the health and wellness of this concept. Is that part of the discussion of a business plan on the centre of excellence for young athletes? Are we looking at a comprehensive model such as this one here?

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Question 739-17(5): Developing Sports Centres Of Excellence

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

This government contributes a lot to the health and well-being of our young people across the Northwest Territories. I think we have upwards of $3.6 million that we provide to many programs that affect the communities. Again, I haven’t had an opportunity to review the business plan yet. I’m just in that process right now. Once we review that and see if there’s a way moving forward, it will obviously take into account a lot of things if they do have a centre of excellence for sport development, nutrition and health and well-being. But first and foremost, our goal as a government is to contribute to the health and well-being and keep our young people across the Northwest Territories active.

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Question 739-17(5): Developing Sports Centres Of Excellence

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The Member for Hay River North , Mr. Bouchard .

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Question 740-17(5): Winter Road Maintenance

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Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today will be for the Minister of Transportation . I know the Minister, before Christmas, got an opportunity to go on the winter roads. I’m glad that he went early, because from what I’m hearing the roads are in rougher shape now than they were back then.

My first question is does the Department of Transportation have a fixed budget on winter road construction and maintenance?

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Question 740-17(5): Winter Road Maintenance

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bouchard . The Minister of Transportation , Mr. Beaulieu .

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Question 740-17(5): Winter Road Maintenance

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Yes, Mr. Speaker, we do. At about five-year blocks we tender the winter road construction in several zones. We have seven zones and each zone could be divided up into two zones, or sometimes it’s just one zone. Then we determine right from Wrigley all the way to Colville Lake who would do what and we tender the work. We issue the work based on tender and a

schedule that the contractor has to follow.

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Question 740-17(5): Winter Road Maintenance

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Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

The next question I have is how does the department know that there’s going to be a set amount? If there are 10 snowstorms versus 15 snowstorms in a year or whether we have no snow in one area or lots of snow, how does the department set that as a fix? Does the department ever come back to the Assembly for additional funds to improve the maintenance on those highways?

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Question 740-17(5): Winter Road Maintenance

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

We do a best guesstimate we can to determine how many times the passes would be needed by the equipment on the winter road. We also have a lot of historical data, and we use those recognizing that, of course, in the past we’ve also had some support from industry that is no longer there.

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Question 740-17(5): Winter Road Maintenance

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Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

I did hear that comment from the Minister in the media a while ago about the lack of industry support this year, but this government has been around for a long time, and I know industry is not there that much this year in the Sahtu especially, so they haven’t been beating up the road as much. But the roads are in terrible shape right now.

Is the Minister looking to put more money and more cycles into the maintenance of the highways?

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Question 740-17(5): Winter Road Maintenance

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

We are going to take a serious look at the possibility of adding more cycles. Although the industry didn’t support us to the full magnitude that they’ve assisted us in the past, we did get some money from industry. Actually, $140,000 to help us with some of the heavy traffic that they were hoping to bring over the winter roads. We’ve had a lot of complaints about the winter road from industry, people moving some fuel and so on into the communities, and from the general population and from the Sahtu, so we are actually seriously considering requesting some money for the winter road in the Sahtu.

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Question 740-17(5): Winter Road Maintenance

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Bouchard .

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Question 740-17(5): Winter Road Maintenance

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Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I know the Minister has been getting these reports. I’ve been getting some of the reports on there. Industry has been keen on letting them know where the maintenance needs to be done. I know in the next little while we’re going to be looking at supplementary expenditures. The roads are melting. The weather is going to be starting to warm up here. We know there is going to be more pressure.

When will the Minister give us some indication that they’re going to increase the cycles and look for money in maintenance?

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Question 740-17(5): Winter Road Maintenance

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

We don’t anticipate any issues with getting everything that we need into the Sahtu communities with the current state of the winter roads. What we would like to do is, really, use this year where we recognize that we didn’t get industry support as a bit of a prototype year on what happened, what occurred and so on. Then next year look at what we think we need, how we need additional cycles and so on in the Sahtu. By additional cycles I mean the extra grading that’s going to be required on the snowfalls in the Sahtu. Thank you.

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Question 740-17(5): Winter Road Maintenance

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . The Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Question 741-17(5): Trout Lake Airport

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you very much. Just following up on my Member’s statement I’d like to ask the Minister of Transportation about the planned air terminal building that wasn’t completed in the capital plan this year. When will the community of Trout Lake be getting their air terminal building? Thank you.

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Question 741-17(5): Trout Lake Airport

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . The Minister of Transportation , Mr. Beaulieu .

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Question 741-17(5): Trout Lake Airport

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We completed this Trout Lake Airport with Building Canada Plan funds. We had $7.2 million to build the road to the new airport and the apron, the airport itself and the new terminal building, but at the end we had expended all the money. We didn’t have enough money left in the budget to complete the $450,000 air terminal building, which is designed and ready to go but we didn’t have the money to do it. Thank you.

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Question 741-17(5): Trout Lake Airport

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you very much. They couldn’t complete it this winter. So the Minister is saying it will be delivered on the winter road in December of 2015 or January of 2016. I didn’t hear a clear answer there. Thank you.

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Question 741-17(5): Trout Lake Airport

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

As indicated, the entire project was over budget. Therefore, we do have to go back to get the money through the regular process. Our intention is to include this air terminal building in the next cycle of the capital planning process, which would be ’16-17.

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Question 741-17(5): Trout Lake Airport

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Well, the Minister clarified exactly what process. Where the air terminal building is, there is none. So he’s got to actually request another one and that’s too bad. As well, like I indicated, the capital planning process is upon us and will be starting soon.

What steps will the Minister be taking to ensure that the community of Trout Lake gets a new airport snow blower for the new and larger airport as well? Thank you.

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Question 741-17(5): Trout Lake Airport

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Right now we are using equipment that exists in the community. The hamlet grader actually is doing the work at the airport. We think that is going to be sufficient, but we’re going to evaluate that after this winter and see if there were any issues at all with the current equipment that’s in the community. If we find that the equipment is inadequate and that we’re not able to do the job and that there are any issues whatsoever with the airline companies, medevac, anything in there whatsoever, then we need to take a look at perhaps bringing more equipment in.

The problem with the plow truck or snow blower basically is these are expensive pieces of equipment and they’re also very expensive to maintain and repair if something goes wrong. A grader is something we find that’s durable and can do the job, and we’re hoping that the results of our investigation on how the past winter had gone with the airport will be good, the results will be fine and that we wouldn’t need anything else at the airport. Thank you.

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Question 741-17(5): Trout Lake Airport

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Menicoche .

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Question 741-17(5): Trout Lake Airport

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Hopefully they do a proper and thorough investigation, because using the old community grader, they’re doing a much larger surface area than they did with the smaller airport. You have 3,500 feet of runway, you’ve got a large apron, so I just don’t believe the speed is there and the ability to clear the snow quickly. I would like to ask the Minister one more time for proper evaluation. I know there are some communities out there that have a snow blower, but they rarely use it so they also have to evaluate how snow blowers are distributed throughout the Northwest Territories.

With that, I will ask the Minister to do a proper evaluation and look at the capital planning process for a snow blower for the community of Trout Lake. Thank you.

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Question 741-17(5): Trout Lake Airport

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

We are currently monitoring the situation and we will evaluate once the season is over and see if there are issues at all. As I indicated, if there are issues and we found the grader was inadequate, especially as the Member pointed out with the lighting, some danger with the lighting on this type of plow, we will look at that, and if we think there is no way we can continue with just a grader on the airport, we will look at the capital planning process to put in proper equipment.

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Question 741-17(5): Trout Lake Airport

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . The honourable Member for Range Lake , Mr. Dolynny .

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Question 742-17(5): Auditor General Report On Corrections In The Northwest Territories – Department Of Justice

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Daryl Dolynny

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Earlier today in my Member’s statement I shared my dismay on the way our Department of Justice is handling our corrections services. Ironically, the office of the Auditor General agrees with me.

As set out in our NWT Corrections Act, there are consequences and processes clearly defined for the contravention of the act. My questions today are for the Minister-designate. Without belabouring the long list of contraventions and violations of this act in the wake of the recent Auditor General’s report, can the Premier indicate if the Department of Justice reviewed its legal obligations and responsibilities for the administration of its correctional facilities as per the Corrections Act? Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny . Honourable Premier , Mr. McLeod.

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Question 742-17(5): Auditor General Report On Corrections In The Northwest Territories – Department Of Justice

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister of Justice has accepted all of the recommendations of the office of the Auditor General and has made a lot of progress and introduced a lot of changes already. If the audit had been done now, it would have been a very different audit. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 742-17(5): Auditor General Report On Corrections In The Northwest Territories – Department Of Justice

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Daryl Dolynny

Range Lake

Clause 49(1) of the NWT Corrections Act states: “The Minister may appoint persons to investigate and inquire into any matter connected or affecting the administration and operation of the corrections service or correctional centre.”

Can the Premier , given the seriousness of the circumstances, indicate to the House when such an investigation will take place? Thank you.

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

I will take that question and respond very quickly. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Clarification, Mr. Premier ?

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

I thank the Member for the question. I will get the information and respond to him as soon as possible. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Mr. Dolynny .

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Question 742-17(5): Auditor General Report On Corrections In The Northwest Territories – Department Of Justice

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Daryl Dolynny

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Section 52 of the act under general offences and punishment reads: “A person other than an inmate who (

a) contravenes this act or the regulations, or (

b) conducts himself or herself in a manner that is detrimental to the good order and discipline of a correctional centre, is guilty of an offence and liable on

summary conviction to a fine not exceeding $500 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding three months or both.”

Can be Premier indicate to the House, will the Minister of Justice authorize an independent investigation into whether charges should be laid under

Section 52 for alleged contraventions of the act and its regulations? Thank you.

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

We just received the Auditor General report today. It was just tabled yesterday, so I will have to take the question as notice. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Deh Cho , Mr. Nadli .

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Question 743-17(5): Fort Providence Health Centre

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. My questions are for the Minister of Health and Social Services . The new Fort Providence Health Centre has been under construction for some time.

Can the Minister confirm the dates of the opening of the Fort Providence Health Centre?

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Question 743-17(5): Fort Providence Health Centre

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Nadli . The honourable Minister of Health and Social Services , Mr. Abernethy .

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Question 743-17(5): Fort Providence Health Centre

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Glen Abernethy

Minister of Health and Social Services

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The original completion date for the contractor was March 31, 2015, and we are still within that date. We were a little bit ahead of

schedule through last summer and were hoping to do final construction and interior finishes through January and February. Unfortunately, we had an inspection on the 25th to determine if the building was ready to be opened and there were some deficiencies identified that the contractor is currently working on. We still have until March 31st to complete those final interior finishes. The original plan was to begin moving furniture and equipment in in March with the actual opening in early summer/late spring. That is still the plan and we are still on target.

I can’t confirm an official date for the opening, but I will talk to the Dehcho Health and Social Services Authority. In light of this new information, I will get a date for the Member.

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Can the Minister give the reason in terms of the delay and the nature of the deficiencies? Mahsi.

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Glen Abernethy

Minister of Health and Social Services

I am not aware of the specific deficiencies, but I understand there were some life safety-related issues with respect to the facility. The contractor is working on those and we expect them to be done shortly, well before the March 31st contract close date. But for specific details, it might be better to go to the Minister responsible for Public Works and Services who is responsible for the build of this facility. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Can the Minister confirm whether the cost of the building exceeded the $11 million target? Mahsi.

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Glen Abernethy

Minister of Health and Social Services

Thanks to my conversations with the Department of Public Works and Services, it is my understanding at this time that we are on time and on budget. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Nadli .

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Question 743-17(5): Fort Providence Health Centre

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could the Minister update this House in terms of the discussions with the local community as to the fate of the old health centre? Mahsi.

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Glen Abernethy

Minister of Health and Social Services

There have been discussions with the community ongoing, but as far as the most recent round of discussions with respect to the opening, I will have to confirm that information with the Dehcho Health and Social Services Authority. I will commit to the Member to get him an update as quickly as possible. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . The honourable Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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Question 744-17(5): Aboriginal Languages And Programs

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are addressed to the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment . I would like to follow up on his statement from today about Aboriginal language programs and progress. The Minister mentioned it his statement that the GNWT invests $15 million each year to support and promote Aboriginal languages. One of those is to build the capacity of Aboriginal governments to implement their five-year regional language plans. I support that change. It is a change in the approach from the department. It’s an investment in language and it’s one that’s needed, so I support it.

I would like to first ask the Minister, of the $15 million that Education puts into language programming, how much of that goes to the Aboriginal governments for their five-year language plans? Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Lafferty .

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Question 744-17(5): Aboriginal Languages And Programs

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. On an annual basis we provide $15 million to Aboriginal language organizations. It does vary to various organizations within the communities and Aboriginal governments. I highlighted some of the key factors, I believe it was last week.

Approximately $15.127 million: $8.4 million goes directly to education authorities; $6.2 million is split between Aboriginal governments and the Aboriginal Languages Secretariat; we provide the breakdown to the DECs that I can share with the Member, a breakdown of $3.2 million investment captures teaching and learning centres, Aboriginal Languages Program support, Aboriginal languages culture instructor support; broadcasting, terminology and, as I stated in my Member’s statement, language acquisition initiative, cultural, heritage. That is money going directly to the organizations, Mr. Speaker. Mahsi.

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Maybe I got lost in the numbers there, but I don’t think I heard the Minister tell me how much of the $15 million is going to the Aboriginal governments for their regional language plans.

This is public money. It’s coming from taxpayers. It’s coming from the GNWT. So I feel that the Legislative Assembly has to be accountable for this money that is going to Aboriginal governments and that we need to be accountable for all the money that we distribute.

So, I’d like to know from the Minister, is there a system in place between the GNWT, his department and Aboriginal governments to account for both the money that they are receiving and the results, in terms of language that is happening or not happening, relative to this money that we’re giving them? Thank you.

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Yes, indeed there is. There has to be strict accountability when we provide public funding to any organizations in the Northwest Territories, not only Aboriginal governments or Aboriginal organizations. The organizations that we deal with, we want them to be accountable, whether it be reporting mechanisms, how the money is expended. There is monitoring, evaluating and also accountability, MEA that is currently in place with Aboriginal governments and Aboriginal organizations and other organizations, as well, throughout the Northwest Territories. It is an accountability mechanism that’s in play now.

So, we follow through with those organizations with monitoring, evaluating and accountability reports. Mahsi.

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thanks to the Minister. So, I’d like to know from the Minister, then, I presume monitoring and evaluation and accountability will produce a report. I think he mentioned a report at the end of his answer there. So, these reports presumably would go to the department. I’d like to know if the reports will also go to committee and to the public so that the Members and the public will know how their taxpayer money is being used. Thank you.

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

When we received the reports, obviously it’s public money so it is a public document as well. Most of the information that we receive is also on our website. Through the monitoring, evaluation and accountability we make sure that everything’s accounted for. Any time that the standing committee requests a public document, we’d be more than happy to share that with the standing committee, Mr. Speaker. Mahsi.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Final, short supplementary, Ms. Bisaro .

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Speaker. Thanks to the Minister. I guess I would say, it would be nice if committee didn’t always have to request a document, but if a document is being publicly posted, it would be nice if the Minister advised committee that it was there so we could go and look at it.

I know that this is the beginning of these regional language plans with Aboriginal governments so it’s fairly new, but I’d like to know from the Minister, apart from these monitoring, evaluation and accountability reports or plans or whatever it’s called, a framework, how is the Minister going to assess success of the program.

What will he be looking at to determine whether or not the money that we’re spending on language is actually increasing the use of language and broadening our Aboriginal languages across the territory? Thank you.

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Question 744-17(5): Aboriginal Languages And Programs

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Obviously, seeing the results, strengthening our working relations with our partners at the regional level, the stakeholders that we work with, obviously the success will depend on each group. So we’re doing what we can as a department to work with them. But at the end of the day, it’s just the results through monitoring, evaluation and accountability that will be in play with the Aboriginal governments, with the Aboriginal organizations and other organizations in the Northwest Territories. The communities need to determine their success as well. So, we’ll be monitoring that as well. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Member for Inuvik Boot Lake , Mr. Moses .

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Question 745-17(5): Funding Health Promotion And Prevention Programs

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Earlier today I had the opportunity to go and meet with some of the participants at the Weaving our Wisdom territorial wellness gathering over at the Explorer Hotel. I had some really good discussions with past colleagues as well as with some people here who are doing some good work. One of the areas that we talked about was prevention and promotion, in terms of putting funding into our dollars.

So I’d like to ask the Minister, is there anything that currently mandates this government, or is there any legislation that we have that says that this government needs to put money into prevention and promotion? Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Moses . Minister of Health , Mr. Abernethy .

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Question 745-17(5): Funding Health Promotion And Prevention Programs

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We don’t have legislation, as far as I’m aware of, that dictates or requires us to put money into health promotion. But as the Member knows, we have increased the number of dollars that we have put into promotion and prevention here in the Northwest Territories during the life of this Assembly significantly, and we’re always looking to work with partners to find ways to create awareness and encourage healthy living for all residents in the Northwest Territories by way of prevention and promotion. Thank you.

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

I agree with the Minister in terms of putting more dollars into prevention and promotion, and we are slowly seeing some of the results with the health status reports and what we’re hearing in the communities.

I know in Ontario, Ontario has a Health Protection and Promotion Act. Would the Minister be looking at this legislation and looking at possibly seeing if it’s something that this government might want to look into and possibly put into documents going into the 18th Assembly? Thank you.

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

I’m, unfortunately, not aware of the particular legislation that the Member is talking about, but it is an interesting idea and I’ll certainly have the department take a look at the legislation and provide me with a bit of an overview of what it is and how it works within that jurisdiction.

As far as moving forward, I’ll share the information I get with committee, and if it’s the wish of committee, we’re certainly willing to have those discussions. Thank you.

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

The good thing about when you talk with people in the public is they have a lot of information, and this was just brought to my attention and I think it’s something that this government really needs to look at in terms of legislating, that we have to go out and educate people and it’s got to be part of our mandate. So, I’m glad the Minister is going to be looking at it. I know we have a lot of legislation to get done from now until the end of this Assembly as well.

Continuing on prevention and promotion, can the Minister provide me with details on how many regional health promotion offices we have currently in the Northwest Territories? Thank you.

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Unfortunately, I haven’t memorized the number of health promotion officers that we have throughout the Northwest Territories, but I will get that information for the Member as quickly as possible. Thank you.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Moses .

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I know we’ve put a lot of money into prevention and promotion. Is there a percentage of those dollars that are allocated to the training and the development of our community health representatives or health promotion officers? Are there dollars that are allocated to the training and development of our employees? Thank you.

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Our employees are our most valuable resources and we’re committed to their continued development. I know that there are dollars available for training particular activities, but as far as the number of dollars allocated to train health promotion officers, I don’t have that number.

We are, as I’ve indicated, committed to our staff. We want them to be current. We want them to be up to date on practices and procedures, and we want them to be continually evolving so that they can be current at all times. So, I will do a little bit of digging and I’ll get some specific numbers for the Member. Thank you.

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Question 745-17(5): Funding Health Promotion And Prevention Programs

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . The Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Blake .

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Question 746-17(5): Fur Pricing Program Review

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a few questions for the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources . Growing up, my grandparents used to tell me stories of when people were limited to the amount of beaver they could harvest in a year, and it was just a handful. The game wardens, as they called them at the time, would go around and keep an eye out on people’s axes as they used them to chop open beaver houses. But since then we’ve had an explosion in the population of the species of beaver, also foxes and mink, but the fur advance doesn’t match that.

It’s a minimum of a $25 advance for these furs and people are paying $45 to $50 for five gallons of gas. It just doesn’t match the cost of living up there with the advance, so my constituents would like to see an increase in this.

Is the Minister willing to work on making changes to the Fur Pricing Program? Thank you.

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Question 746-17(5): Fur Pricing Program Review

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Blake . The Minister of Environment and Natural Resources , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Question 746-17(5): Fur Pricing Program Review

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The prices are set at a five-year rolling average and they’re reviewed every year. However, I’d be happy to sit down and talk to the Member about specifics if he has any dollar figures that he’s looking at. We have to manage the money that’s available to run this program, and the beaver prices are very low at the market values. Thank you.

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Question 746-17(5): Fur Pricing Program Review

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

As the Minister knows, we have the best fur in the world. There is a huge demand, you see it all the time, for sheared beaver, beavertail wallets. It’s just like snakeskin. I had one a few years back; it was pretty nice.

But as the Minister is just taking this department back on, I think it’s time that we make this review. Even changing it to $45 or $50 for an advance, that would help out the harvesters a great deal. Is the Minister willing to do this?

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Question 746-17(5): Fur Pricing Program Review

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you. Yes. One of the things we’ll be doing is doing a review, and as the Member has requested and suggested, we’ll be looking at that particular issue as well. Thank you.

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Question 746-17(5): Fur Pricing Program Review

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you. Was that a yes that he’ll increase it to $45 or $50? Thank you.

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Question 746-17(5): Fur Pricing Program Review

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you. I’d have to check Hansard. I understood the question to be that since we’re taking it back over, would we look at the prices and see if we would consider moving it from $45 to $50 and I said yes, we would consider looking at that as we get this back into ENR’s authority. Thank you.

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Question 746-17(5): Fur Pricing Program Review

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Blake .

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Question 746-17(5): Fur Pricing Program Review

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My last question is to do with the management of wildlife. Does the Minister have funds that they could contribute to encouraging our people to harvest more of these species? Thank you.

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Question 746-17(5): Fur Pricing Program Review

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

We have funds tied up in the Community Harvesters Assistance Program. We have some money still available in the Western Harvesters Assistance Program as well. As well, we have the fur pricing advances that we do have and prime pelt fund as well. So we do have some funds available. Thank you.

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Question 746-17(5): Fur Pricing Program Review

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . Item 8 written questions. Item 9, returns to written questions. Item 10, replies to opening address. Item 11, petitions. Item 12, reports of standing and special committees. Item 13, reports of committees on the review of bills. Item 14, tabling of documents. Mr. Yakeleya .

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Tabled Document 211-17(5): Special Committee On Transition Matters – Terms Of Reference

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to table the terms of reference for a Special Committee on Transition Matters.

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Tabled Document 212-17(5):

Summary Of Members’ Absences For The Period October 16, 2014, To February 3, 2015

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . Pursuant to

Section 5 of the Legislative Assembly and Executive Council Act, I wish to table the

Summary of Members’ Absences for the Period of October 16, 2014, to February 3, 2015. Thank you, Mr. Clerk.

Item 15, notices of motion. Item 16, notices of motion for first reading of bills. Item 17, motions. Item 18, first reading of bills. Item 19, second reading of bills.

Item 20, consideration in Committee of the Whole of bills and other matters: Bill 12 , Employee Benefits Services Pension Plan Act; Bill 36, Health and Social Services Professions Act ; Bill 46, Deline Final Self-Government Agreement Act ; Committee Report 10-17(5), Standing Committee on Government Operations Report on the Review of the 2013-2014 Annual Report of the Information and Privacy Commissioner of the Northwest Territories; Tabled Document 188-17(5), Northwest Territories Main Estimates 2015-2016; Tabled Document 205-17(5), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 5, 2014-2015; Tabled Document 206-17(5), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 3, 2014-2015; and Tabled Document 207-17(5), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2015-2016, with Mr.

Bouchard in the chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

Robert Bouchard

Good afternoon. I would like to call Committee of the Whole to order. What is the wish of committee? Ms. Bisaro .

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. We’d like to deal with Bill 46 and, following that, Tabled Document 188-17(5), Northwest Territories Main Estimates 2015-2016, the Department of Education.

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Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . Does committee agree?

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Agreed.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

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The Chair

Robert Bouchard

We’ll continue after a short break.

---SHORT RECESS

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

Jane Groenewegen

Committee, before us today is Bill 46, Deline Final Self-Government Agreement Act. I’d like to ask Premier McLeod if he would like to deliver his opening comments on this bill. Premier McLeod.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. I am pleased to be here today to speak about Bill 46, Deline Final Self-Government Agreement Act.

This bill approves, gives effect to and declares valid the Deline Final Self-Government Agreement. This self-government agreement will create the Deline Got’ine Government, which is the first stand-alone community-based self-government in the history of the Northwest Territories.

---Applause

This bill also gives effect to the Deline Tax Treatment Agreement, which relates to the tax treatment of the Deline Got’ine Government.

The bill provides for consequential amendments to the Waters Act.These amendments are consistent with the approach taken in the context of the Tlicho Agreement.

Finally, the bill also provides for the repeal of instruments pertaining to the establishment of the Charter Community of Deline, and for instructions on how the Deline Got’ine Government is regarded as a municipal authority in other Northwest Territories laws.

I would be pleased to answer any questions the committee may have regarding this bill. Thank you.

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Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Premier McLeod. At this time I would like to ask Premier McLeod if he would like to bring witnesses in.

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Yes, I would, Madam Chair.

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Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Premier McLeod. Is the committee agreed?

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Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. I’ll ask the Sergeant-at-Arms to please escort the witnesses to the table.

Premier McLeod, for the record, could you please introduce your witnesses.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. To my right I have Fred Talen, senior negotiator, Aboriginal Affairs and Intergovernmental Relations. To my left I have Ken Chutskoff, legal counsel.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

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Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Premier McLeod. I’ll now turn to Members and ask if they have any general comments on Bill 46 . General comments? Mr. Yakeleya .

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair. I’m also very pleased to be sitting here and speaking to the bill, Bill 46, Deline Final Self-Government Agreement Act. Madam Chair, my comments will be short to this specific bill.

This bill, as the Premier indicated, is the first stand-alone community self-government agreement in the Northwest Territories. It’s an historical moment for the people of Deline, for the team that worked on it from the Deline Got’ine, from the Northwest Territories negotiating team and also from the federal government negotiating team.

Mr. Premier talked about the effect of the Deline Tax Agreement that we will have the Deline Got’ine Government take as part of their own government. This bill also, in the history of the Northwest Territories, is setting precedence for the Mackenzie Valley. As you know, Tulita and Colville Lake and Kasho Got’ine, Fort Good Hope and Norman Wells are also negotiating their own self-government agreements as per the Sahtu Comprehensive Dene-Metis Land Claim Agreement and these land claim agreements in our region, in the Sahtu region, give specific provisions for a community self-government agreement.

I want to congratulate the GNWT team members and to congratulate the good, hard work of the Deline negotiators and team and to the federal government. To make it to this point where we are today, we’re making history in the Northwest Territories by bringing it through our process. I wanted to say that when we get to another part of this important document, hopefully today, later on after third reading, I will do a formal thank you through a statement to the good people up in Deline as well as the negotiators and the team.

I do want to say to the Premier it takes a lot to be a trailblazer. Trailblazers, they have a vision, they have a team working with them and they do what they have to do. I take this agreement, this self-government agreement to a time when I, along with George Cleary, who was the president of the Sahtu Tribal Council, when we first started to work on a Sahtu regional land claim. Part of the deal, part of the package was a

section in there, self-government, that George Barnaby, who at that time was self-government negotiator, said to me at that time in 1992, ’93, that each one of us leaders in time in history have to hold a sign. He said mine is self-government. I was young, and I’m still pretty young yet, in heart anyhow, not realizing then in 1992, ’93, ’94, that 20 years later we will see an agreement like this. We didn’t realize that when we were negotiating. George Cleary was our president. He played a significant

part in this agreement we’re doing now, but there are lots of people also in around and from Deline who also played a significant role in where we’re at today. It’s amazing. I just want to say that.

In ’93 we did not think this would come about, with the territorial government, the colleagues on the other side, the