Debates of Feb. 16th, 2007

This is page numbers 945 - 976 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was communities .

Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

Residential Schools Interagency Meeting

Tulita Unity Accord Celebration

Tamerlane Ventures Project Proposal

The Importance Of Volunteers At Sporting Events

Care And Maintenance Of Elders' Homes

Inclusion Of Electronic Waste In Recycling Programs

Issues Identified At Kam Lake Constituency Meeting

NWT Participation At National Curling Championships

Acknowledgement Of Achievements Of Nunakput Residents

Capital Project Cost Overruns

Tank Farm Contracting Concerns

Tamerlane Ventures Project Proposal

NWT Winter Games

Yellowknife Airport Infrastructure And Services

Capital Project Cost Overruns

Vacancies On Environmental Review Boards

Tulita Unity Accord Celebration

Care And Maintenance Of Elders' Homes

Storage Of Fuel On Northern Waterways

Power Corporation General Rate Application

Inclusion Of Electronic Waste In Recycling Programs

Wood Pellet-fuelled Heating Systems

Policy Regarding Unoccupied Public Housing Units

Housing Standards For Seniors And Disabled Persons

Purchase Of Zamboni For Lutselk'e Arena

Income Security Programs For Seniors

Appointment Process For Judges

Revert To Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Mr. Braden's Reply

Committee Report 10-15(5): Standing Committee On Accountability And Oversight Report On The Review Of The 2005-2006 Annual Report Of The Languages Commissioner

Motion That Committee Report 10-15(5) Be Deemed Read And Printed In Hansard In Its Entirety

Committee Report 10-15(5): Standing Committee On Accountability And Oversight Report On The Review Of The 2005-2006 Annual Report Of The Languages Commissioner

Motion To Receive Committee Report 10-15(5) And Move Into Committee Of The Whole

Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Wood Pile Inspection And Repair Program

Item 18: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Revert To Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Item 20: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Honourable Brendan Bell , Mr. Braden , Honourable Paul Delorey , Honourable Charles Dent , Mrs. Groenewegen , Honourable Joe Handley , Mr. Hawkins , Honourable David Krutko , Mr. Lafferty , Ms. Lee , Hon. Michael McLeod , Mr. McLeod, Hon. Kevin Menicoche , Mr. Miltenberger , Mr. Pokiak , Mr. Ramsay , Honourable Floyd Roland , Mr. Villeneuve , Mr. Yakeleya

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Good morning, Members. Welcome back to the House. Orders of the day. Ministers' statements. The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Dent .

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Minister's Statement 70-15(5): Residential Schools Interagency Meeting

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning. The Residential Schools Interagency Committee met in Yellowknife on January 15, 16 and 17, 2007. This committee consists of representatives from the Northwest Territories residential school survivor groups, the Roman Catholic Church, the Anglican Church, the RCMP, Indian Residential Schools Resolution Canada, the Dene Nation, the Inuvialuit Regional Corporation, the Gwich'in Tribal Council, the NWT Seniors' Society, the federal government and the Government of the Northwest Territories.

The committee was formed under the lead of the Government of the Northwest Territories to coordinate the efforts of the GNWT and other stakeholders in providing support services to NWT residents who will be seeking and receiving compensation from the federal government. The committee made significant progress at the meeting. Key priorities were set for assisting former residential school students on their healing journey.

These key priorities included: developing commitment and support from all levels of leadership; improving coordination and communications; further development of the interagency committee; and, development of community-based services. Mr. Chairman, co-chairs were also established for the groups. A support group of Government of the Northwest Territories social envelope departments will help the committee to achieve these priorities.

A smaller interagency support group was also established. This smaller support group will be meeting regularly to help work progress.

The response from participants at this meeting was positive. I look forward to reporting further results as the committee continues its important work. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 70-15(5): Residential Schools Interagency Meeting

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent . Ministers' statements. Members' statements. The honourable Member for Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Tulita Unity Accord Celebration

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, over the past few days, there's been a big celebration happening in my region in the Sahtu which happens to be in my community of Tulita, my home town. Mr. Speaker, it's reported in the CBC News that the Hollywood legend, Leslie Neilson, also known as Mr. McGoo, also as a big star in Hollywood comedies such as Airplane and Naked Gun and Naked Gun Two and a Half, Airplane.

Mr. Speaker, the celebration signifies the importance of community members working together under the Sahtu Land Claims Agreement that was the spirit and intent of having the control and the ownership of lands and resources in the lives of our people in our region to celebrate the significant contribution by elders and past leaders in our region and in the whole Northwest Territories to come together to work together. The unity accord is a celebration.

They brought up the Honourable Tom Siddon and other dignitaries across the Northwest Territories and they brought up a fellow who grew up in Tulita who now lives in Fort Lauderdale in the States, Leslie Neilson. When he was growing up there, my grandmother and my mother spoke of him growing up in Tulita. My grandmother and some other ladies up in Tulita used to babysit him. This signifies a strong sense of a small community like this that have strong visions to work together, but also to show the rest of the Northwest Territories that this type of work can get done. Sometimes it starts in small communities.

Mr. Speaker, also the community of Yellowknife will be hosting Mr. Nielsen who will be coming here and spending a day with the people in Yellowknife. Mr. Speaker, the Tulita Unity Accord is something that should be congratulated by all the people in the Sahtu, but also to the people in Tulita for hosting such an event and having such a legend come from Tulita and making it big in the world. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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Tulita Unity Accord Celebration

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Thebacha , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Tamerlane Ventures Project Proposal

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there is a proposed development in the old Pine Point mine site to extract lead and zinc and it gives me some concern. It was interesting to note that Tamerlane Resources, Tamerlane, when you look it up on Google or in the dictionary, under one of the most notorious death

spots in the world that looted, pillaged, murdered and raped his way from India through Asia and died on his way to China, is the name of this company.

I understand the principal from Giant Mine, who also left us with what Giant Mine is today, is the principal in this company. They want to go back into a mine site that has never been remediated, that has enormous pits left to fill with water, a tailings pond as big as a small lake, so there is going to be an issue for us of cumulative impacts which is going to be very significant. It's right on the edge of the lake. So we will have Giant Mine with 300,000 tons of arsenic trioxide and on the other side, we have the old Pine Point mine site with an enormous tailings pond, which I personally went to look at because I used to work there when I was a young guy.

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Tamerlane Ventures Project Proposal

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Some Hon. Members

Young guy!

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Tamerlane Ventures Project Proposal

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, there is also the issue that they've identified a rich ore body which they want to access under a pilot project. They tell us they've made significant strides in how you extract lead and zinc and that it would be, for the most part, benign. It would not be like the old days of open pits. They would have shafts and as they extracted, they would put the waste back into the shafts. These shafts would go down a considerable distance and there is a lot of groundwater issues, environmental issues combined with what is already happening there.

The one concern I have with that particular issue, Mr. Speaker, is while they talk pilot project, what crosses my mind is high grading. That they identified something rich that they get access to under a pilot basis, they will extract it all and then they will tell us it's not worth looking at the rest of the reserves that are there and they will walk away leaving us with even a further mess on the South Slave. So as we review this process and this project proposal and before we all give our seal of approval and accept it as a way to make some money, we have to be very careful.

We have a history there and we have to take the right steps and I am not convinced that this is in the best interest of the people of the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

---Applause

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Tamerlane Ventures Project Proposal

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe , Mr. Villeneuve .

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The Importance Of Volunteers At Sporting Events

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Robert Villeneuve

Tu Nedhe

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, myself and some of my colleagues in the House, including yourself, had an opportunity to travel to Fort Simpson last night to attend the opening ceremonies of the 2007 NWT Winter Games being held over this weekend. It was great, once again, to see the level of excitement in all the eyes of the youth who were able to participate in such a fun-filled weekend of sport and recreation that is geared towards fair play, fun and friendships.

Mr. Speaker, raising the level of participation at this event has always been a challenge for the various organizations that partner up and make it a success and a memorable event for all the youth attending. I commend them for all their hard work in ensuring that every community has an opportunity to participate without worrying about the financial or logistical nightmare such a large gathering presents, especially here in the North.

What we don't see, Mr. Speaker, is the disappointment in the eyes of the youth in the communities that could not attend simply due to the fact of finding one or two chaperones or volunteers to accompany their contingent of participants at this event. To me, Mr. Speaker, this is a very sad and selfish excuse which cannot wipe away the many tears of despair in the youth that have received such news of cancellation.

I hope that the communities that could not send their youth for something that seems like the least of their worries does not hinder the enthusiasm of all the potential athletes in our small remote communities for future events of this nature, and that all NWT communities embrace this type of opportunity which allows the youth to grow both socially and physically in a positive sport and friendship environment. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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The Importance Of Volunteers At Sporting Events

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Villeneuve . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Monfwi, Mr. Lafferty .

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Care And Maintenance Of Elders' Homes

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Jackson Lafferty

North Slave

(Translation) Mr. Speaker, today I want to speak about the importance of seniors' care in our communities across the NWT and especially in the community of Behchoko. In our communities, we have many needs that are not always addressed in the most timely and appropriate manner. Senior housing in Behchoko requires programming that is dedicated to the needs of our elders and assisting them with household issues which need professional assistance. In Behchoko, we need a local contractor to assist specifically with these needs; fixing up furnaces and servicing them. Later on, I will ask the Minister questions. (Translation ends)

In our communities, we have many needs that are not always addressed in the most timely and appropriate manner. Mr. Speaker, senior housing in Behchoko requires programming that is dedicated to the needs of our elders; assisting them with household issues, which need professional assistance. In Behchoko, we need a local contractor to assist specifically with these needs; fixing up furnaces, servicing them, cleaning out water tanks and conducting minor home repairs are just a few examples, Mr. Speaker, on what can be done to assist the elders in the community.

Mr. Speaker, I am sure that it will come as no surprise to you that a major concern of the people of Behchoko is that there is no local contractor specifically available for all seniors at this community level. This issue has been raised in this House and there was a commitment from the Minister to follow through prior to changes in Cabinet. I am beginning to wonder if we will ever address this concern, Mr. Speaker.

Our elders need assistance to make their lives simple and hassle free. Our elders who have these issues arise should not have to wait to deal with service providers that are not available locally. Mr. Speaker, in Behchoko, we have a qualified red seal journeyman in the community

that can also be made available to the three outlying Tlicho communities on a contractor basis. This issue is about assisting with the minor repairs and minor challenges elders are faced with. These are important and require immediate attention before they become serious problems. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Great Slave , Mr. Braden .

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Inclusion Of Electronic Waste In Recycling Programs

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Bill Braden

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Polls tell us that our environment is the primary concern of Canadians these days and here in the NWT, we are striving to do our best to deal with this. In the last Assembly, Mr. Speaker, we did. We passed legislation to create a recycling program and mechanism in the NWT. After a bit of a slow start, Mr. Speaker, this has been declared a runaway success. We now have 26 licensed recycling depots. A bit of information that I have is that in about a five-month period, we recycle enough aluminium cans to build two 737 jets. How's that for trivia?

Sixty-two percent of containers are in the recycling stream. That's almost seven million containers, Mr. Speaker.

We have built up a surplus in this environmental fund, in the recycling deposit fund that as of last March was almost three-quarters of a million dollars, Mr. Speaker.

I think the area we would all like to explore is where are we going to go next. Recyclable containers are a good start. There are many, many other things that we use and dispose of in our society in a very wasteful manner. Some of these things are, for instance, building materials, tires, vehicles, metals. The one that should be very much at the front of our concern is what's called e-waste, Mr. Speaker. These are the computers, television sets, electronic gadgets that we love so much in our society but we are so quick to dispose of when they get obsolete or when they break down.

Mr. Speaker, the average older style television set or computer monitor can contain up to five pounds of lead plus other heavy metals such as mercury, cadmium and chromium. Where we are going to take our recycling initiative next, Mr. Speaker, should be in this area. Thank you.

---Applause

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Braden . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Kam Lake , Mr. Ramsay .

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Issues Identified At Kam Lake Constituency Meeting

Item 3: Members' Statements

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, last evening, I had the opportunity to host a Kam Lake constituency meeting in the Great Hall. I wanted to speak today about some of what I heard during discussions with constituents.

The riding of Kam Lake has an interesting mix of residential areas, two schools, Ecole St. Joseph and N.J. McPherson, the Multiplex and is also home to the largest industrial park in the Northwest Territories. This industrial park is the economic engine of our capital city and requires some much needed attention from both the City of Yellowknife and from our government.

I have spoken many times in this House of the need for a secondary access road into the city from Highway No. 3. We cannot afford to compromise public safety any longer. Constituents at my meeting are saying build the access road and again today I will say it once again. Work with the city and build this much needed access road.

The issue of service in Kam Lake Industrial Park was also high on constituents' minds. There has been much talk of the city and the Government of the Northwest Territories working together on an agreement to bring services to the Yellowknife Airport. This, Mr. Speaker, would be a fantastic undertaking for the city of Yellowknife. An airport as busy as YZF and an industrial park the size of Kam Lake Industrial Park should not be on trucked service. There will be some cost sharing needed and involved in getting services included as part of the access road construction and to the airport and, Mr. Speaker, as a government we need to be as flexible a partner as we can be.

Constituents also had concerns over the lack of bus service to the industrial park. Hundreds of people work there every day and public transit would be much welcomed. Also, there is inadequate street lighting and no garbage pick-up for residents. Mr. Speaker, I want my constituents to know that I'll take the next opportunity to raise these issues with city officials.

At the meeting we also discussed other items such as housing, sports funding and legislative initiatives that I'll bring up with the appropriate Ministers at a later date. I also shared with my constituents a map which shows that the boundaries are changing in the riding of Kam Lake, as well as in the rest of the Yellowknife ridings, for the next territorial election, which will take place this fall. Mr. Speaker, this was done in an effort to balance the seven Yellowknife ridings and I hope to have a map indicating the changes to the riding on my website early next week for constituents to have a look at. Mahsi.

---Applause

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Issues Identified At Kam Lake Constituency Meeting

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes , Mr. McLeod.

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NWT Participation At National Curling Championships

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this weekend in Lethbridge, Alberta, some of the best female curlers in the country and probably the world, because Canada has the best curlers in the world, are gathering to play in the Scottish Tournament of Hearts. Mr. Speaker, we're represented this year by a real territorial team. Four members are from all parts of the Northwest Territories. We have Kerry Koe, who's the skip of the team; she's from Yellowknife. Monique Gagnier, who, I understand, inherited her skill from her father; she's from Hay River. Kelli Turpin curls out of Inuvik.

Dawn Moses curls out of Fort Simpson, and Nicole Baldwin, the fifth player, is from Whitehorse. We expect, Mr. Speaker, big things from these girls this year as a lot of us curlers know it's a hard road to get there and they have to be

commended for their achievement, and I believe they will do well. There's a website that we can send greetings and best wishes and I encourage everyone to get on there and send them their best wishes.

Mr. Speaker, also in a couple of weeks the Briar playdowns are being held in Hamilton, Ontario. The team this year representing the Northwest Territories is made up of Jamie Koe from Yellowknife. This is a Yellowknife team. Brad Whitehead, Mark Whitehead, and Brad Chorokowski. The fifth player is Randy Turpin living in Inuvik. Last year, Mr. Speaker, the men went six and five and they had a good opportunity to get into the playoffs, so we're expecting big things from our curlers this year. These are some of the best curlers in the country and we are not lagging far behind as far as skill goes.

Mr. Speaker, a lot of the curling that goes on is helped along by volunteers. These curlers had to start somewhere and I commend MACA for being involved in the winter games. It gives these kids a chance to get started somewhere and if it starts there, someday they may end up at the pinnacle of their sport. As my colleague from Tu Nedhe said, a lot of the communities have to volunteer, escort these kids. It's called volunteer, Mr. Speaker. You volunteer your time; you don't get paid for it. I encourage everybody to get out there and help these kids along so some day they may end up at the top of their sport also. Thank you.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Members' statements. The honourable Member for Nunakput , Mr. Pokiak .

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Acknowledgement Of Achievements Of Nunakput Residents

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Calvin Pokiak

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I'd just like to, I understand that yesterday the NWT Winter Games were held in Fort Simpson, opening up in Fort Simpson yesterday, Mr. Speaker. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to attend this big event, but I understand that looking at the numbers from Nunakput there was a total of 37 athletes and chaperones included in this big event here. I'd just like to wish them good luck in their sports that they're taking.

Also, Mr. Speaker, I understand that in late January, Sarah Anderson and Annie Felix of Tuktoyaktuk were recognized for long-term service awards in education. Ms. Anderson has been teaching the Inuvialuit language for the last 30 years or so and I applaud her dedication for the benefit of our Inuvialuit people and speaking their language.

Finally, Mr. Speaker, I understand the Eli Nasogaluak, Randy Sibbeston, and John Sabourin, Team NWT, took first place in the snow sculpture Winterlude in Ottawa last week.

---Applause

Also, Mr. Speaker, Eli Nasogaluak is a long-term resident of Tuktoyaktuk, but he resides in Yellowknife here. From looking at the newspaper, I understand that he will now further his expertise and will go international. So I wish him very well in his endeavours. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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Acknowledgement Of Achievements Of Nunakput Residents

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Pokiak . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Capital Project Cost Overruns

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Speaker, today I would like to address a serious budget problem that we have been facing for several years. It has become normal practice that capital projects continue to come in over budget by the time of completion. On several occasions, the Minister has been questioned about what can be done to spend our money more wisely, to use the money for projects that compete for capital funding instead of using it for overruns. The Minister explained that the process takes several years of planning from business plan proposals, to design, to tendering and final realization.

The problem is that projects have been approved in the capital year that are not being realized in that year. When they get rolled over into the next year, there is the problem that the rollover now, because the costs have increased by 10 percent or even more sometimes. Then the Minister will give us many reasons why they cost so much and why the capital costs are as they are.

One concern that I have with this is the reasoning that nobody in government seems to be responsible or is held accountable for this problem. However, as always, I'd like to take a positive step and approach this situation with some suggestions on how we can improve our capital planning process.

In the new year, we, as Members, vote on projects. We need concrete figures that are based on realistic business cases, including breakdowns for designs, materials, shipping and labour costs. The total price tag should always include cost variations. We need a price tag that reflects the true costs of the project. The approach of tendering always requires some attention. Tendering for building contracts have to be timed with construction season in mind, Mr. Speaker. Building materials have to be ready for construction in spring, using the long summer days and warm temperatures to save costs.

I'm convinced we could save a lot of money by not starting construction projects in the middle of winter.

If projects are delayed or deferred in the new fiscal year, we should be voting on them on the updated business case showing the true cost for that year. This would require new debate, resulting in new votes, instead of coming back when the project is half finished with the budget eaten up entirely, requesting adjustments that hardly anyone in this House can truly deny, because a half finished project does not help anyone.

Mr. Speaker, I will pause here with my suggestions to improve our approach to realizing capital projects and I will have questions for the Minister later today. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Page 948

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Range Lake , Ms. Lee .

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Tank Farm Contracting Concerns

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 949

Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to take this opportunity today to share with the Members in this House a situation my constituents are experiencing. They are a very well-established business, 100 percent northern and aboriginal owned. They employ over 35 people, many of them from small communities around Yellowknife. They have established an excellent record as a supplier of geosynthetic material in the North. They have done subcontract work to Tahera Diamonds, Jericho project, Diavik Diamonds, De Beers Snap Lake.

In fact, they have been privately and publicly acknowledged for their professionalism and innovative ways in which they work to adapt their material and they know how to best meet the northern climate and the harsh environment. They have also in the past provided materials to the government departments until this latest project on a tank farm.

Mr. Speaker, I think it should be made clear that they're not looking for any special consideration. What they're only asking for is a fair and sensible process. Mr. Speaker, instead, what they have been encountering is what appears to be an orientation set on one specific product by name, although it says equivalent, that their competitor supplies in the North, but a company that employs a lot less northern labour.

Mr. Speaker, the department has admitted that their specs are quite outdated, it may be going back as far as 2000, and that it will be renewed soon. But every step of the way of this subcontracting process, new requirements and new questions are being asked, even after the main contract was tendered. The latest thing is that the department is asking for a 30 to 40-year guarantee for the use of this product from the manufacturer. That was something never done before, even though the supplier of the opposition side, or the competitor, would be producing that from the same supplier.

Mr. Speaker, I'm in discussion with the Minister on this issue, but I am bringing this up in the hope that the Minister and department officials will be open minded in looking at how the tendering process has gone about and whether or not we are living up to the commitment of supporting our northern businesses. Thank you.

---Applause

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Tamerlane Ventures Project Proposal

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Page 949

Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I would like to talk about the initiative that has been recently taken by Tamerlane Ventures to look at the ore bodies around Pine Point area and to undertake to invest some money to check out the viability and the feasibility of going back into this mining activity just 60 short miles from Hay River.

Mr. Speaker, some 20-odd years ago, Hay River was seriously and severely impacted when the Pine Point Mine closed down. That was a community of almost 2,000 people that did a lot of business in Hay River and supported a lot of economic activity in our community. Now Tamerlane Ventures is looking at those reserves again, world prices have changed on some of the products that they're looking at mining, and it may be a viable thing again.

Representatives of Tamerlane Ventures have taken the opportunity to come and brief our town council and talk to representatives in our communities, explain to us in great detail what their plans are, and we appreciate that. I believe that they've also visited with the other South Slave communities. So we're looking forward to what they might be able to do and some of the spin-offs and benefits this might create for not just Hay River, but for the South Slave in general.

Thankfully, today we have better environmental review processes in place than we did at the time that the Giant Mine went into operation and was constructed, and even when the Pine Point Mine went into place. We have, I believe, significantly modernized our environmental review processes and with these in place I am extremely hopeful that a venture of this type could be undertaken that will benefit the North and also respect our environment. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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NWT Winter Games

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 949

Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to speak about the NWT Winter Games that are being hosted in Fort Simpson. I attended the opening ceremonies there yesterday and I'd like to thank all of the MLAs that attended the opening there.

I'd just like to commend Fort Simpson for hosting this event and it's a signal of all our smaller communities that can host an event of this significance. It goes a long way in development of all our communities as we develop our youth through the sporting venues.

Once again, I'd just like to commend all the volunteers and chaperones who are there and the staff that's there to organize and have these very significant NWT games that's impacting all our communities. Mahsi cho.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . Members' statements. Returns to oral questions. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. I'd like to welcome our visitor in the gallery today, welcome to the House. It's nice to have an audience.

---Applause

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Question 338-15(5): Yellowknife Airport Infrastructure And Services

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 949

David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, again, I had a constituency meeting last night and some of

the issues we were talking about was service to the Kam Lake Industrial Park. In addition to that, we talked about the possibility of service being run out to the Yellowknife Airport. My question to the Minister of Transportation : Is there any negotiations underway with the City of Yellowknife to in fact have service brought out to YZF? Mahsi.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The honourable Minister responsible for Transportation , Mr. Menicoche .

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Certainly our department has had many discussions with the City of Yellowknife for a lot of the shared infrastructure that we do have, and discussions will continue throughout this year, Mr. Speaker. Mahsi.

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to get a clarification from the Minister what he means by "discussions." I want to get a clearer answer than that. Mahsi.

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. By discussions means actual meetings with the City of Yellowknife.

---Laughter

---Applause

All the discussions are of the future development that is going to happen around the Yellowknife Airport and the Yellowknife Airport development plan. Mahsi.

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to ask the Minister if those discussions not only include the provision for service to the Yellowknife Airport, but also provision for service along that new access road that's going to go from Highway No. 3 into Kam Lake Industrial Park. Mahsi.

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Absolutely, the Cadillac plan for the bypass road would be to include a provision of services out to the airport through the, I believe they call it the Airport Road. Sorry, the DOT road bypass behind the airport will include that in the discussions that are happening. Mahsi.

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Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . Final supplementary, Mr. Ramsay .

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to again today ask the Minister where one might find, and I know the GNWT's going to have to be a partner in this and its shared cost to this access road. How is the Minister proposing that the government come up with the funding to get this done, this much needed road? How is it going to happen? Mahsi.

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Senior officials of our government and the City of Yellowknife continue to discuss the financing arrangements and there's many different options out there up to and including support from our government. But all this is in the preliminary discussions right now, Mr. Speaker. Mahsi.

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Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . Oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Question 339-15(5): Capital Project Cost Overruns

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 950

Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Earlier today I spoke about the problem about cost overruns on our capital projects and I made some suggestions how we can address the situation. So my question for the Minister of Finance is, acknowledging the fiscal year, why can't we start the tendering process for capital projects earlier in the fiscal year prior to the new one beginning? Thank you.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . The honourable Minister responsible for Finance , Mr. Roland .

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Floyd Roland

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I take it the question is directed because of the budget process we get into. In fact, the previous governments, I believe in the 12th Assembly or up to the 12th Assembly, did have two budgeting cycles, one for the O and M budget and one for the capital budget, to try and deal with the issue of construction during the best time of year, that being the summer season. What we found or what was looked at was that it wasn't necessarily being done. It didn't help things. So we brought it to a one budgetary process which reduced the time for Members as well in the House.

It is something that can be looked at to see if in fact by changing cycles it would make things smoother. Thank you.

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Minister. Mr. Speaker, one process that could speed up the planning and more efficiency on this problem is we could start releasing tender documents in January, February or March with the proviso that until the Assembly approves it, the project is not a go. Could we consider that approach? Therefore, we would not formally have to change our process of any cycle. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Floyd Roland

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, that approach would add too much uncertainty to the process of actually going out through advertising and putting out an RFP to find out the project was not proceeded with for a number of reasons. So that would add too much uncertainty to the industry. Our process would be one of looking at the actual capital process itself and when a project comes in on that three-year business and if that's the most up-to-date number or the year before it comes into the main estimates, should it be revised at that point. Those are some of the areas we probably should concentrate on. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Two years ago the eight-plex was approved, disabilities eight-plex in my riding was approved by this House and it took almost a year for that project to get started so, Mr. Speaker, by that time we never knew what the final construction cost would be and the project is still ongoing. So, Mr. Speaker, the process is flawed, as I see it. I'd like to see him speed it up. Does the Minister have any better ideas how we can solve this problem?

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Floyd Roland

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, part of the issue as well in a heated economy, most projects, whether they be through the government or through private sector, are finding impacts when it comes to the costing of projects being proceeded with as well as just pure volume of projects being done. At one point the government was seen as the prime for many of the contracts when it came to what was being issued. I recall in Inuvik where you'd have 10 contractors bidding on a $30,000 contract. Now we have difficulty having one bid on a $200,000 contract. So that's some of the issues we face in a heated economy.

I think we do have to look at our process and start from that section. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I don't think a heated economy is the issue because that's going to happen all year long, all 12 months. Mr. Speaker, with the uncertainty problem, the fact is if we tender these things in February or March, we haven't changed anything because a lot of these projects have been planned for almost a full year in advance. All it needs is the stamp of approval of this Assembly. So my last question to the Minister is, will he look at seriously adjusting the tendering process to speed it up by a couple months? Therefore, we can have construction start in the summer season. Thank you.

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Floyd Roland

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there may be initiatives undertaken internally from within the departments. This is not just one department alone, it's all departments and the work they do with the Department of Public Works and Services, ensuring we have the up-to-date information. So once the budget is approved, RFPs can be let out. So that work may be undertaken internally. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 340-15(5): Vacancies On Environmental Review Boards

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Page 951

Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, on the matter of resource development we often hear a lot of anecdotal information about how long it takes to process applications to do things in the Northwest Territories compared to Alberta, for example.

One of the other things that we hear is that, or that we know, is our environmental review process panels are appointed, to a large extent, by the federal government and there have been instances recently where positions have been left vacant by the Minister of Indian and Northern Affairs and this could become a contributing factor to delays in incumbents as people wanting to undertake resource companies, wanting to undertake resource development in the Northwest Territories.

I would like to ask the appropriate Minister, and I'm not sure who that is, what is the status right now of the membership of qualified northerners on these review panels as appointed by the federal Minister of Indian and Northern Affairs? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It's a fairly broad question and I'd have to get the information on where there are vacancies on the various boards, but I'll undertake to do that. Thank you.

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

When there are vacancies, Mr. Speaker, and it is our role to suggest or nominate candidates to sit on those boards but it is ultimately the federal government's responsibility to appoint them, would the Premier commit to undertake that that would be done in an expeditious manner so that we do not leave boards with vacancies that would affect their ability to get a quorum to consider applications in a timely manner? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Joe Handley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Ministers are telling me that we have all our nominations in, so we've done our share of it. Mr. Speaker, I will have our people find out from the appropriate Minister the status of appointments from there, where it is the federal government's appointment. Thank you.

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, also recently there was word from the Minister of Indian and Northern Affairs that when it came to board appointments, they were looking for individuals with certain qualifications. This is a bit of a change from previous Ministers, federal Ministers, and I want to ask the Premier , then, if he would, to avoid again delays, ensure that the communication is clear with the federal government so that we know what kind of credentials they're looking for so that we don't end up suggesting or nominating people that they will ultimately find unacceptable? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Joe Handley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, we've had that discussion in Cabinet. We're looking at our own processes for who we nominate and so on. I have been told by the federal Minister that he wants to have people who are going to facilitate the process. He's frustrated with our complex regulatory process, for example, and how long it takes to get things done. He wants people who will be able to do that.

Mr. Speaker, I know the federal government does criminal record checks and so on. We want to get more information on that. But if there's a way for us to streamline ours, we're ready to do that and we've had that discussion. Thank you.

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Quite often these appointments can be a political overtone to them and quite often MLAs are requested to submit names of people they would like to see serve on some of these boards. In the interest of attracting the kind of qualified people the federal government may be looking for, would the Premier agree that it may be time to expand that, search somewhat by going to an advertising process as well as soliciting input from agencies and Members of this House? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In some cases we do that, and I don't see any downside of expanding it and getting people who can do the job in the federal Minister's eyes. Thank you.

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is to the Premier of the Northwest Territories, Mr. Handley . Mr. Speaker, I'd ask Mr. Handley , the Premier , in terms of the event that's happening in Tulita on the Tulita Unity Accord. I want to ask the Premier , this type of an event that's happening takes a lot of work with this community working together. Would the Premier look at something like this?

I know he's working on something like that that would have the whole Northwest Territories on sort of a unity accord that would work with all Members that would work on larger issues with Ottawa and some of the things we're going to have in the Northwest Territories. Has the Premier given that some thought or has he already started working on a type of unity accord for the northern people? Thank you.

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Joe Handley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, I am looking very much forward to going to Tulita tomorrow and taking

part in some of the unity celebrations that are happening. This is the first time that I'm aware of a region doing it this way and I think it's a great exercise to build consensus. Mr. Speaker, we tried the same thing and continue to try with the Circle of Northern Leaders is one way. The best unity celebrations, statements, are from the ground up, but I like the Sahtu one because it came from the Sahtu, not from the top down. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Sahtu experience through this unity accord has taken a lot of effort by a lot of good leaders, a lot of past leaders who have left us, and the purpose of it is to work together on larger issues. I appreciate the comments from the Premier in terms of the efforts put by the Sahtu people.

Would the Premier look at this experience in terms of I know he's working hard, we have given some direction to him on this side in terms that seeing that this type of unity accord can be used on a larger scale within the Northwest Territories for all northern people so that we could have a strong united fight when we go to Ottawa for getting what is ours rightly? Thank you.

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Joe Handley

Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, yes, I will and at the same time I certainly hope that leaders from other regions who attend the unity accord celebrations, events, would also consider how they might, from their regions, sponsor the same kind of events. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The unity accord, again, is a huge celebration. I'd certainly like to see something like that on a larger scale within this government. I'm not too sure that's possible, but I think this government here is working hard to see if we can have a united northern accord in terms of this type of celebration. Does the Premier see any time frame or any types of vision that we can have within the life of this government in terms of having this type of celebration for all northern people? Thank you.

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Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We will take that into consideration. We've got a pretty busy

schedule over the next few months. I will talk to other Members. If there is time, then certainly I'm in favour of it. But as I say, our schedules are pretty busy. Thank you.

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Norman Yakeleya

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Mr. Speaker, would Mr. Premier consider looking at bringing up Mr. Leslie Neilson to this discussion which we'll be having in the Northwest Territories? Thank you.

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Mr. Speaker, certainly we'll consider it. We don't want to play him out if we're going to bring him up too often. But I look forward to meeting him in Tulita and I look forward to meeting him in Yellowknife, and any people like that are certainly very popular with northerners. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

North Slave

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as I mentioned earlier in my Member's statement, providing necessary care and maintenance for our elders' homes is something we need to take more seriously at the community level. I have a question for the Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corp, the Honourable Mr. Handley . What is the Housing Corporation's mandate to meet the needs of our elders in the communities of the Northwest Territories with respect to basic services? Mahsi.

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Joe Handley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As with all people in the Territories, we have an obligation to help those with needs to have affordable, good quality housing. That is true for seniors, as well. In addition to that, we have special programs for seniors. I won't go into detail on all of those now, but we have an obligation either through public housing units or through homeownership units. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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North Slave

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Tlicho Government is willing and ready to work with the Minister of the NWT Housing Corporation to find a fast solution to this issue that we're faced with in the community. I'd like to know from the Premier , as the Minister of the Housing Corporation , what is the department's action plan for '07-08 to help make this vision a reality to service the elders' needs? Mahsi.

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Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate the work that the Tlicho Government has done with us cooperatively, particularly in the area of lands and identifying land. That has worked very well in 2006-07 and I think things are working very well towards 2007-08. So that one is important.

Second, Mr. Speaker, we do a lot of the delivery of services through the local housing organizations or authorities, and again I appreciate the support from them. We have liaison officer positions or money available to help liaise between the housing needs and the clients in our housing. That one is important.

There is a workshop coming up on the 22nd that our people are attending to figure out how we could be more effective in the work we're doing.

Mr. Speaker, we want to work closely with the Tlicho Government and with the local organizations to have that effective delivery. One of the problems we've run into is finding skilled tradespeople. Again, we are looking at and trying to find ways that we can get more apprentices into the business as well so we have more tradespeople at the community level. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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North Slave

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as I highlighted, we do have a qualified journeyman in the community of Behchoko, a red sealed maintenance journeyman. Can the Minister possibly consider a similar contract to the one they offer the housing authority to a local skilled journeyman to assist with the needs of our elders in the community of Behchoko and surrounding Tlicho communities? Mahsi.

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Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Mr. Handley .

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Joe Handley

Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, yes, we will do that. We have, in the past, gone out for RFP. I would hope that we do that again and if the individual with the skills would submit their proposal, their application to do that kind of work.

Mr. Speaker, I know the LHOs, our local education authorities, are very busy. So if there's ways that the private sector can help us, then certainly we'll do that. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Handley . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Lafferty .

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Jackson Lafferty

North Slave

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as the Minister indicated, on February 22nd there is a public forum on Housing and ECE as a combined forum. At the same time, can we expedite this process, because that will be an issue on February 22nd, for a fact, from the elders. What can the department do to expedite the process so something is shown on the 22nd of February?

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Joe Handley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As Members know, as referred to before, there's $825 allocated per unit for seniors and I'm ready to look at that again. I want to do an assessment of where we're at in terms of maintaining those kind of ongoing maintenance and servicing of furnaces and so on from that fund. Mr. Speaker, if there are problems with it, we want to identify them before the 22nd and hopefully on the 22nd have some responses that will be beneficial for the seniors to take

part in that meeting. Thank you.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley . Oral questions. The honourable Member for Thebacha , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Question 343-15(5): Storage Of Fuel On Northern Waterways

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are for the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources to follow up yesterday's line of questioning in regards to the 40 million litres or so of fuel stored in single-hulled barges around Hay River on Great Slave Lake and the Hay River. There are many unanswered questions: how often they dip the tanks, can they reconcile the amount that was put in this fall with what is currently there, the type of spill plan and containment plan that they do have.

Given the seriousness and potential extreme hazard to this situation, I'd like to ask the Minister whether he would commit to sending down the director of environmental services here for the department, down to Hay River personally to take a look and review what is there, look at all the barges and make an on-the-ground inspection? Thank you.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . Honourable Minister responsible for Environment and Natural Resources , Mr. McLeod.

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this is an issue that's very serious to this government and the people of the Northwest Territories. We've met with the federal Department of Transportation regarding this issue as it's their responsibility to do the monitoring. We've also met with the president of NTCL to voice our concerns. They have assured us that they have spill contingency plans and clean-up plans, and they have also provided us with some of the testing that they do on a daily basis and a weekly basis. We have had our own people travel to Hay River and accompany them on some of their testing.

I certainly will commit to doing more. We'd like to see this whole process of using barges for storage in the winter changed and we're working towards that, but we'll certainly commit to having our people travel to Hay River and take

part in the inspections. Thank you.

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Paul Delorey

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to thank the Minister for that response. The final question would be could I get the Minister to commit to being able to report back to this House before we rise to adjourn on March 16th with the results of the review and assurances that can be made, hopefully, to the people of the Northwest Territories on this issue? Thank you.

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Mr. Speaker, I think we can meet that time frame and we'll commit to that. Thank you.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Oral questions. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe , Mr. Villeneuve .

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Question 344-15(5): Power Corporation General Rate Application

Item 6: Oral Questions

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Robert Villeneuve

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question today is to the Honourable Kevin Menicoche , Minister responsible for the Pubic Utilities Board, just in relation to the general rate application that the Power Corporation filed with the Public Utilities Board a little while back about the increase of 16 percent or three cents per kilowatt hour for the power rates in Yellowknife and roughly $20 for everybody else in the NWT.

I know that the application is based on the need for immediate rate increases. The process, I know, the general rate application is long and lengthy and could take up to a year to get the application pushed through. Already the rates have gone up, Mr. Speaker, and the Power Corporation has implemented power rate increases already in the $12 and $13 range per NWT resident. It's an interim refundable rate and I am just wondering if the Public Utilities Board has ever refused a general rate application form that's been filed by the Power Corporation in the past. It seems like...

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Villeneuve . I will allow the Minister to answer that question. The honourable Minister responsible for the Public Utilities Board , Mr. Menicoche .

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Public Utilities Board is responsible for looking at any general rate applications by any of the utilities that are under its responsibilities. The Public Utilities Board has received a phase one general rate application by the NWT Power Corporation and there was a significant increase, like the Member had indicated. Part of the process of the Public Utilities Board and part of the request by NWT Power Corporation was to institute an interim rate increase as we deliberate the merit of the phase one general rate application. Typically what happens there, Mr.

Speaker, is the interim increase is so that there is not a shock to the consumers once there is final approval to that application, Mr. Speaker. Mahsi.

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Paul Delorey

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Robert Villeneuve

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Again, let me ask the Minister, has the Public Utilities Board ever refused a general rate application increase from the Power Corp in the past? Thank you.

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Not to my knowledge. I am going to have to take that question as notice, Mr. Speaker.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . Oral questions. The honourable Member for Great Slave , Mr. Braden .

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Question 345-15(5): Inclusion Of Electronic Waste In Recycling Programs

Item 6: Oral Questions

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Bill Braden

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question this morning is for the Honourable Michael McLeod , Minister for Environment and Natural Resources and in that portfolio carries the responsibility for our recycling programs. Mr. Speaker, the problems and the hazards associated with disposing of gadgets and electronic appliances is becoming more and more apparent in our society, especially because of the dangerous substances that some of these appliances cause in the environment.

Mr. Speaker, Alberta, for instance, has a $15 to $45 deposit required when televisions or similar appliances are purchased and these go into funds to assist in the proper recycling of these. Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the Minister, is e-garbage something that we can potentially deal with as our recycling program advances and expands?

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Braden . The honourable Minister of Environment and Natural Resources , Mr. McLeod.

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Member raised a lot of good examples of where the successes are in this program when he made his Member's statement and we have certainly been quite happy with the response from the communities around this program and I think it has resulted in saving a lot of material that would have gone into our landfills are either being recycled or transported south for recycling. Now that we've come to this stage in this program, we are looking at a second portion of it or a new phase. We are now in the process of drafting a discussion paper. We would like to see where we go next.

There are a number of areas that we have targeted; tires, and e-garbage is an area we certainly want to explore and have more discussion on. Some communities have also come forward and started discussions amongst themselves in the regions and with us regarding regional waste sites, so we could start utilizing shared equipment; for example, shredders or compactors. We also started discussion in some areas with communities and regions about mobile equipment that we could maybe transfer from community to community.

So there are a lot of things on the horizon. We expect to have a public discussion paper ready for this summer and we will have that out so that the communities and the general public can have some input. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Bill Braden

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. One of the difficulties that we encountered with rolling out this program was in enabling all communities to have a way that recyclable materials could be returned for repayment, reimbursement. It appears, Mr. Speaker, that with 26 licensed operators, of course not all our communities, have a license depot but the reality is when consumers in those communities purchase a recyclable container, they are still required to pay the deposit. So I would like to ask the Minister what systems are in place in those communities that do not have a depot to enable consumers to have their deposits reimbursed?

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think there are only six communities that don't have independent depot operators, and those are the smaller communities like Kakisa, Jean Marie, Fort Liard, Wrigley, Tulita and Colville Lake. Mr. Speaker, in most instances, we have operators from other communities that would go in on a biweekly or monthly basis to work with those communities and pick up some of the recycling that's done there.

Mr. Speaker, we still have to have operators in those communities and we are working with them. We would like to have independent operators in each of those communities rather than some communities being served from other areas. Thank you.

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Bill Braden

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Of course, one of the concepts, foundations, of this program is that it would be, in effect, self-financing or paid for by the consumer. Information is that there is a fairly substantial fund built up for this and I am wondering as we go further in seeing where we can expand, what levels of new recycling we can introduce, what, if any, would be the requirements for new funding from the Legislative Assembly to get these things going or is it basically on its way and is it self-sustaining, Mr. Speaker?

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