Oral Questions, Climate Change, Cost Of Living — 1 March 2017 (18th Assembly, 2nd Session, pp. 2075–2114)
2017-03-01, 18th Assembly 2nd Session, pp. 2075–2114
Northwest Territories — Debates (Hansard)
Debates of March 1st, 2017
This is page numbers 2075 - 2114 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.
The word of the day was work .
Topics
Oral Questions
Members Present
Prayer
Yellowknife Airport Evolution
Progress Statement - Education and Training
Canada's Outstanding Principals: Education, Culture and Employment Milestone Statement
Commitment to Action on Climate Change
Protection of the Bathurst Caribou Herd
Dead North Film Festival
Proposed Carbon Pricing Charette
Impacts of Climate Change on Transportation Systems in the Sahtu
Northern Carbon Pricing Regime
Deh Cho Boreal Caribou Study
Member's Statement on Inuvialuit Water Board
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Inuvialuit Water Board
Inclusive Schooling Funding
Northern Carbon Pricing Regime
Northern Carbon Pricing Regime
Proposed Carbon Pricing Charette
Industrial Activity Green House Gas Emissions
Protection of the Bathurst Caribou Herd
Notification of Northern Carbon Pricing
Proposed Carbon Pricing Charette
Tabled Document 307-18(2): Government of the Northwest Territories Response to Committee Report 4-18(2): Report on the Review of the 2014-15 Public Accounts Tabled Document 308-18(2): Follow-Up Letter for Oral Question 505-18(2): PeopleSoft Public Service Human Resource Reports Tabled Document 309-18(2): Follow-Up Letter for Oral Question 606-18(2): Status of Transboundary Water Management Agreements
Tabled Document 310-18(2): We Can Do Better: Housing in Inuit Nunagut Report of the Standing Senate Committee on Aboriginal Peoples, Senate of Canada, March 2017
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Department of Environment and Natural Resources, Deferral of Corporate Management Activity
Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Department of Environment and Natural Resources, Deferral of Environment Activity
Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Department of Environment and Natural Resources, Deferral of Water Resources Activity
Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Department of Environment and Natural Resources, Deferral of Further Consideration of the Estimates for Environment and Natural Resources
Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Orders Of The Day
Members Present
Hon. Glen Abernethy , Mr. Beaulieu , Mr. Blake , Hon. Caroline Cochrane , Ms. Green , Hon. Jackson Lafferty , Hon. Bob McLeod , Hon. Robert McLeod , Mr. McNeely , Hon. Alfred Moses , Mr. Nadli , Mr. Nakimayak , Mr. O'Reilly , Hon. Wally Schumann , Hon. Louis Sebert , Mr. Simpson , Mr. Testart , Mr. Thompson , Mr. Vanthuyne
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Prayer
Prayer
Page 2075
The Speaker
Jackson Lafferty
Good afternoon, colleagues. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Minister of Transportation .
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Minister's Statement 148-18(2): Yellowknife Airport Evolution
Ministers' Statements
Page 2075
Wally Schumann
Hay River South
Mr. Speaker, the NWT economy needs a boost right now and the Yellowknife Airport is an important instrument of economic diversity. Finding new, proven ways to support and fund improvements and growth at the airport will help strengthen and diversify the NWT economy and create benefits for all travellers and business that use the airport.
The Department of Transportation is engaged with air carriers, the public, and other key stakeholders who believe there is an opportunity to improve the Yellowknife Airport to support economic growth and better services. To achieve this, the Department of Transportation is proposing to introduce a new revolving fund framework for the airport, which would allow it to become financially self-sufficient by funding its own ongoing capital, operations, and maintenance expenditures.
Mr. Speaker, the Yellowknife Airport is currently funded through the government's consolidated revenues, making it another draw on GNWT resources used to fund all its other operations. Meanwhile, traffic at the airport increased 16 per cent from 2011 to 2015 and continues to rise. This additional pressure makes the need for costly improvements even more critical. The Department of Transportation believes the airport can use its robust passenger volumes to support itself financially if it were to use a fee system that is in line with other similarly sized airports in Canada.
Moreover, this would shift the financial burden of supporting the airport away from NWT taxpayers to airport users, more than half of whom are non-residents.
Mr. Speaker, as outlined in the draft business plan developed for the Yellowknife Airport, the Department of Transportation has a very clear plan of how it would use these fees. All airport improvement fees would go towards making capital improvements, while other fees would be used to cover the cost of services provided to users. Input into this business plan was provided by key airport stakeholders who identified the improvements they believe are necessary for a strong and effective airport moving forward.
All of the actions identified in the business plan were accompanied by clear timelines for implementation. This plan will ensure the airport has the financial resources and flexibility it needs to provide enhanced services to travellers and more opportunities for northern businesses.
A dedicated source of funding for the airport means that more resources can be invested into things like increased parking and retail space, helping to attract more business to the airport and stimulate our economy. Improving the capacity of cargo facilities could benefit industries that rely on the timely and efficient movement of large quantities of goods and material to support their operations.
Infrastructure improvements such as upgraded lighting and a central de-icing facility to reduce travel delays would have a direct impact on the ability of airlines to deliver operations and services. Improved security services and expanded holding areas that reduce congestion, along with modern amenities, will improve traveller experience and comfort. It would also allow tourists visiting Yellowknife or connecting to other destinations in the Northwest Territories to take away better first and last impressions of the North.
The number of visitors to the Northwest Territories has increased 45 per cent over the past five years. While this growth is extremely positive for our tourism industry, it is putting a strain on the Yellowknife Airport, which needs to be upgraded and modestly expanded in the short term to cope with the pressures.
The possibilities for evolving the airport are many, but without a reliable funding model we cannot make the changes that are necessary for economic development and service growth. The minimal impact increased aeronautical fees would have on the cost of living would be greatly outweighed by the positive economic activity generated by improving the Yellowknife Airport. Already, approximately 1,000 people are employed directly through activity at the airport and there is an opportunity to generate more jobs for Northerners.
Mr. Speaker, the time is now to invest in the Yellowknife Airport as an important economic catalyst for our territory. With the support and feedback of residents and stakeholders we can work together to make infrastructure improvements that will attract investment, supporting the addition of more flights, increased passenger numbers, greater cargo volumes, and new business opportunities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Minister's Statement 148-18(2): Yellowknife Airport Evolution
Ministers' Statements
Page 2076
The Speaker
Jackson Lafferty
Masi. Ministers' statements. Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs .
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Minister's Statement 149-18(2): Progress Statement - Education and Training
Ministers' Statements
Page 2076
Caroline Cochrane
Range Lake
Mr. Speaker, I am very proud of the work that the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs has done as part of the Government of the Northwest Territories' commitment to education, training, and youth development. Today, I would like to provide an update on the progress the department is making in the area of governance, capacity building, and support for community governments in the Northwest Territories.
Mr. Speaker, in 2016, Municipal and Community Affairs signed a $248,000 funding agreement with Indigenous and Northern Affairs Canada to support the development and implementation of an online platform for the delivery of self-directed and self-paced governance workshops to both municipal government elected officials and Aboriginal community governments with municipal-like responsibilities.
Mr. Speaker, the department has also been busy working to modify several existing courses so they can be delivered through the school's new online platform, including courses related to bylaw development and recreation planning. Several of these courses are currently in a pilot delivery phase, designed to ensure that the new approach to delivery is effective and provides results.
Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to inform the House that Municipal and Community Affairs has also recently completed the development of a state-of-the-art training room, which provides all regional offices, and soon all community governments in the Northwest Territories, with the ability to participate in distance training. This new online training capacity has the potential to save community governments money through alleviating travel costs. It also provides the opportunity for more frequent delivery of short course offerings, or webinars, on specific issues or concerns that are common across communities.
Eventually, the School of Community Government will have the ability to deliver training to all communities in the Northwest Territories via this new system. The first course to be delivered in this manner will be the Municipal Contracts course next month, with 16 people from seven communities participating in a combination of face-to-face and teleconference delivery approaches.
Mr. Speaker, this government has made a commitment in its mandate to provide capacity development to community governments across the Northwest Territories. The new platform, technologies, and facilities developed by Municipal and Community Affairs, as well as the work to adapt and update existing curricula, underscore the department's commitment to ensuring that community government staff and officials throughout the Northwest Territories have access to appropriate, relevant and high quality training as they need it.
This will ultimately allow Municipal and Community Affairs to support improvements for community governments and subsequently, the quality of life of the residents in those communities.
I am hopeful, Mr. Speaker, that my colleagues will join me at the launch of our Distance Training Facility tomorrow, Thursday March 2 nd at 11:30 on the fifth floor of the Northwestel Building to witness this progress first-hand. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Minister's Statement 149-18(2): Progress Statement - Education and Training
Ministers' Statements
Page 2077
The Speaker
Jackson Lafferty
Masi. Ministers' statements. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment .
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Minister's Statement 150-18(2): Canada's Outstanding Principals: Education, Culture and Employment Milestone Statement
Ministers' Statements
Page 2077
Alfred Moses
Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as I've said in this Assembly, education is one of the cornerstones of development and success. There are always people behind a student's experience in education, and they are usually teachers or principals.
Mr. Speaker, I want to congratulate Ms. Carolyn Carroll, principal of both Harry Camsell School and Princess Alexandra School in Hay River, on being recognized as one of Canada's Outstanding Principals for 2017. Principals who receive the award are nominated by their colleagues, school staff, and community members. She is the ninth principal in the NWT to receive this honour.
Originally from Newfoundland, she came to the Northwest Territories in the late 1980s and taught throughout the Tlicho region. For the past 20 years, she has taught at all of the schools in Hay River, and as principal of Harry Camsell and Princess Alexandra since 2013.
Ms. Carroll has created inclusive learning environments at the schools with all staff members committed to a philosophy of child-centred learning and collaboration.
She recognizes the importance of the school reflecting the culture of the community, and has spearheaded a number of culturally responsive programs for the school populations.
Ms. Carroll is a strong believer in inquiry and play-based learning in students. In 2013, self-regulation was introduced in three classrooms in Harry Camsell School. Self-regulation helps students manage their energy levels. When teachers create classroom environments that minimize stressors as well as help students to recognize, respond, and manage their energy levels through self-regulation, students are better able to approach learning in a calm and focused manner.
At Harry Camsell, these classrooms include ways for students to help manage their energy, like stationary bicycles to help burn off extra energy, and options for children to learn and participate without sitting at desks.
In addition to her focus on student identity, culture, and learning, she is a strong believer in professional development for teachers and collaborative learning environments. As a team, they collectively set goals, share and analyze student data, plan targeted interventions, and share their successes.
Mr. Speaker, Ms. Carroll is described as an "agent of change," with very positive support from her community and from the parents of the students in the schools. Her teaching principles reflect exactly what we're trying to embody at the department, Mr. Speaker. Education renewal is a strategy of transformative change in the NWT school system, with a focus on increasing student wellness and outcomes, and improving teacher wellness. We recognize we must do things differently to ensure the needs of our students and teachers are being met, and Ms. Carroll is a leader in this regard.
Ms. Carroll is currently attending a five-day Executive Leadership Training Program delivered by the internationally renowned Rotman School of Management. Once complete, she will join some 400 exceptional educators who comprise the National Academy of Canada's Outstanding Principals, which offers its members ongoing networking, mentorship and professional development opportunities.
Please join me in congratulating Ms. Carolyn Carroll and her continued dedication to her students, community, and excellence in education. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.
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Minister's Statement 150-18(2): Canada's Outstanding Principals: Education, Culture and Employment Milestone Statement
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Page 2077
The Speaker
Jackson Lafferty
Masi. Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Member for Yellowknife North .
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Commitment to Action on Climate Change
Members' Statements
Page 2077
Cory Vanthuyne
Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to talk about our commitment to action on climate change.
People in the Northwest Territories and other northern regions are among the first in the world to be experiencing the concrete, sometimes drastic impacts of climate change. How we confront climate change in our lives is a personal decision, but an effective response depends on individual and collective action now and in the future.
It is a complex issue and touches on a lot of areas of our lives. Climate change has an influence on how we heat our homes, and how much that costs. In our resource-driven economy it has an impact on jobs and local economies. For Indigenous people of the NWT, it now further threatens their traditional way of life. It is important to me as a leader in our territory that we have a solid plan in place and that we take action now. Our government has an opportunity to lead society towards sustainability. Many departments are working on a strategic framework to give GNWT departments guidance.
While this is an important start, I would advocate for more direct action to be taken. The reach of the framework should be expanded so that it incorporates teaching, research, demonstration, and accelerating solutions beyond the GNWT. We must state our commitment as individual leaders, and as a government, to provide guidance, and make the concrete changes necessary to address this challenging issue.
For example, as we expand educational opportunities we should also be investing in the long-term in our research institutions. As we improve healthcare, we should also apply northern research to measure how climate change is a factor in our people's health. As we design supports for small business, we must promote innovation and green technologies, and as we advance exploration we must prioritize carbon-neutral extractions methods and seek new ways to mitigate the impacts.
We should encourage more and better collaboration within our government departments, and partnerships with Aboriginal and community governments and the private sector. These are steps that will support real economic growth and create good jobs while doing the work to combat climate change and protect our pristine environment. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Page 2078
The Speaker
Jackson Lafferty
Masi. Members' statements. Member for Frame Lake .
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Protection of the Bathurst Caribou Herd
Members' Statements
Page 2078
Kevin O'Reilly
Frame Lake
Merci, Monsieur le President. I have raised the plight of the Bathurst caribou herd in this House since the beginning of our term, probably almost as many times as the Minister of Transportation has talked about the Yellowknife Airport. To date, the responses from Cabinet have been non-committal at best. Ministers say work is being done to create a management plan while plowing ahead with plans for an all-weather road into the heart of the herd's remaining critical habitat, including its calving grounds. The only concrete actions by our government to date have been harvester restrictions. Not one square centimetre of habitat has been permanently protected in any way by our government.
I will commend the Department of Environment and Natural Resources for leading the Bathurst Caribou Herd Range Plan exercise that started in the fall of 2014. Even if it is years late and follows several damning findings and recommendations from environmental management boards, it is the only thing going in terms of a process to bring all the parties together to look at the future. A discussion paper and plain language
summary were prepared in December 2016 and public consultations are to begin soon as announced by the Minister on February 8 th in this House.
I have reviewed the discussion paper and it presents a sound path forward with the following:
Maintain human disturbance below threshold levels;
Maintain connectivity between seasonal ranges;
Maintain the integrity of sensitive habitats; and
Manage human access.
To properly manage human activities and protect the Bathurst caribou herd, it will be necessary to implement cumulative effects disturbance frameworks, protect areas important to caribou, guide land use, and control access. The discussion paper suggests that we assemble guidance on practices related to caribou-friendly road construction techniques and consider winter-only access in the calving and post-calving and summer ranges of the Bathurst caribou herd.
The herd is in desperate condition with extreme limits on harvesting. It's incomprehensible that our government continues to plan for an all-weather corridor that would link up with a similar road on the Nunavut side of the boundary that would bisect the calving grounds and post-calving critical habitat. The discussion paper on range plan presents models for future development where people will have to make a choice between caribou or mines. What choice will our government make?
I will have questions later today for the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources . Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.
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The Speaker
Jackson Lafferty
Masi. Members' statements. Member for Kam Lake .
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Dead North Film Festival
Members' Statements
Page 2079
Kieron Testart
Kam Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, over the weekend, I had the profound enjoyment of taking in this year's Dead North Film Festival, watching 31 short films that capture the imagination and creativity of Northerners. Dead North is the world's only circumpolar genre film festival and has produced 90 original short films over the past five years. These films are not short on originality, Mr. Speaker, cutting across horror, science fiction, and fantasy genres, and for the most part, shot in familiar locations here in Canada's North.
These films touch on themes as diverse as the traumatic legacy of residential schools, imagining an arctic zombie outbreak, or investigating a fur hat from space with an appetite for human flesh.
Some of Dead North's films have gone on to screen at major festivals around the world including Fantasia, BFI, New York City Horror Film Festival, Clermont-Ferrand Film Festival, and soon, the prestigious International Cannes Film Festival in France. This great northern film festival is made possible by the support from local businesses and great organizations like the NWT Arts Council, Western Arctic Motion Pictures, and of course, the NWT Film Commission.
I am delighted that this event is so well received and is supported constantly by our community with tickets selling out in two hours this year. So without a doubt, Mr. Speaker, the Northerners want to tell their own stories by creating their own films here in the North. Not only is this something that Northerners want, but something Dead North proves that Northerners can do.
Mr. Speaker, one of those Northerners is Keith Robertson, whose film BAIT! won best poster at Dead North and now has been handpicked to continue on to the Cannes Film Festival, where it will be screened along with selective films as part of Telefilm's Not Short on Talent program. Apart from being a filmmaker, an amateur filmmaker, Mr. Robertson is a teacher at Range Lake North School and his success is proof positive that Dead North is a potentially life-changing creative experience. I want to congratulate him for his achievement, and I wish him continued success on this film and future projects as he continues to tell original northern stories.
Mr. Speaker, these projects are not only the work of one filmmaker. They're the work of actors, crew, and production teams, and I'm thrilled to see these efforts play out on the silver screen. I want to congratulate all of those who contribute to our growing film industry, and for this year's amazing Dead North Film Festival. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. See you at the movies.
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Page 2079
The Speaker
Jackson Lafferty
Masi. Members' statements. Member for Mackenzie Delta .
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Proposed Carbon Pricing Charette
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Page 2079
Frederick Blake Jr.
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to return to a subject discussed earlier this month by my colleague, the Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh .
In June, energy stakeholders will come together to run a charrette on carbon taxing from opportunities and possible rules to revenues and community energy projects. They'll also be planning for the use of micro-grids to reduce emissions. There have been NWT-based energy charrettes in the past, and the GNWT has been a major player. Some might say that we don't need another conference, or that we need to take action, not just talk about it.
Mr. Speaker, to that I say: progress can be slow, but that doesn't mean we should just stop trying. Discussion takes time, true, but that's how ideas for action are born. Charrettes bring people together to solve problems. Here, Aboriginal and community governments, industry, and environmental NGOs want to come together, Mr. Speaker. That's big. That means that these partners recognize the big questions raised by carbon taxing and ideas for alternative energy, and that they want to get together, find solutions, and make changes that will make a difference on the ground.
The Gwich'in Tribal Council is in full support, and like several other partners, the council is making a funding contribution. All Members recently received a background on this charrette. There's a seat at the table for the GNWT, and organizers are looking for a commitment, a commitment to participate and to complement the contributions already made by private donors. I hope they'll see us there, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
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The Speaker
Jackson Lafferty
Masi. Members' statements. Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh .
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Tom Beaulieu
Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh
Marci cho, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, affordable energy, the cost of living, reduction in diesel use in remote communities, micro-grid technology, the impending carbon tax are all big, important issues, especially for the 26 off-grid communities. Today, we will focus our attention in this House on those issues.
Mr. Speaker, we have seen what is possible with micro-grids in Colville Lake and what is achievable with similar technology in the communities. The communities have also seen what is possible with power purchase agreements and economic opportunities in Lutselk'e, and what can be realized in the communities.
Mr. Speaker, in the upcoming federal budget there will be a $50 million fund for remote, Indigenous communities to assist in the transition off diesel fuel. We know a carbon tax is coming soon to the NWT and we need to get ready. There is much to discuss with the communities, Aboriginal governments, mines, businesses, the Government of the Northwest Territories, and the people, the process and the table to bring Northerners together to exist. The time for these discussions is now, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, the Gwich'in Tribal Council is proposing to host a charrette in Yellowknife in June on the issues I have mentioned. Leaders from the Aboriginal governments, the president and board of the NWT Association of Communities, and mine representatives will be invited. To date, neither the GNWT nor the federal government have committed to be a part of this critical partnership event, even though it is a political priority for both governments.
Mr. Speaker, planning is well under way for this charrette. The GNWT should be playing a leadership role in this collaborative partnership. Our communities are looking for that leadership. The NWT Association of Communities are looking for that leadership. There is huge benefit to having the collective wisdom of all these Northerners gathered around a table, offering their collective advice and recommendations to government on how to move forward on the critical issues I mentioned in this statement.
The 18 th Assembly, the first Assembly after devolution, made a commitment to Northerners to doing things differently, to getting things done. Northerners from all sectors have organized themselves to work with government on these issues. They have contributed funds towards the charrette. They are reaching out to the government to join this collaborative partnership to sort out these critical issues. It is time for the government to step up and step forward. Northerners are moving, and they need the government to move with them. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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The Speaker
Jackson Lafferty
Masi. Members' statements. Member for Sahtu .
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Impacts of Climate Change on Transportation Systems in the Sahtu
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Page 2080
Daniel McNeely
Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Climate change. Mr. Speaker, evidence of climate change is all around us and affects every aspect of the way we do business and everyday living standards. We are seeing animals and birds never seen in these parts before.
Mr. Speaker, resupplies to Fort Good Hope is a prime example, amongst others. The last barge destined for that community rarely makes it due to low water seasons and the challenges faced between Norman Wells and Fort Good Hope with two sets of rapids.
The impact of this is fuel, public and private goods and services destined for that community, building materials. If they do not make the destination, building projects are prolonged. They are delayed. Private groceries do not end up to resupply the community household until the following winter access road season, and fuel by this government destined for the community there is handled twice. It's then brought back to the community of Norman Wells, stored, and trucked over the winter road season. Our winter road seasons are experiencing shorter seasons and also warmer, mild temperatures.
Mr. Speaker, Northerners are resilient. We are now saying we need more all-weather road infrastructures to connect our lacking 28 per cent non-community connected to the all-weather road systems. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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The Speaker
Jackson Lafferty
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Northern Carbon Pricing Regime
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Julie Green
Yellowknife Centre
Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in December 2015, world leaders gathered in Paris signed the historic agreement to fight climate change. They committed to ambitious targets for reducing greenhouse gas production and to halt the disastrous advance of global warming. Last year, the Mining Association of Canada endorsed the federal government's effort to establish a national price on carbon pollution.
In the months since the signing of the Paris Agreement, our federal government has announced its intention to introduce a carbon price. Ottawa has consulted with provinces and territories, asking them to develop a system for their jurisdiction, which honours minimum reductions. Our government has participated in these processes and I understand there is federal funding to offset costs.
Throughout this mandate, this government has missed no opportunity to condemn carbon pricing, without a mandate from the Assembly's committees for taking this position. Even while signing the national climate change framework in Ottawa last December, the Premier remained reluctant of pricing carbon, intoning fears of cost impact and skepticism at the significance of NWT greenhouse gas reductions.
As we know, the impacts of climate change are all the greater here in the NWT. If anything, these exaggerated impacts call us to make an even greater northern commitment and example as we call upon the world's governments and industrial leaders to ease the damage most felt here.
Mr. Speaker, the time for resistance to the inevitable is past. It is time for acceptance, endorsement, and action. When our world leadership en masse, our global corporate leadership, and the national organization representing our mainstay economic driver call for action on carbon pricing, we need to climb on board. I will have questions for the Premier on the current state of NWT carbon pricing development. Thank you.
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Shane Thompson
Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I have been travelling across the NWT, the topic of caribou comes up with a lot of people. The more people I talked to, the more I became interested in what was happening in the Deh Cho in this area. After doing research, I found out the Department of Environment and Natural Resources is doing studies with boreal caribou in the Deh Cho.
Mr. Speaker, it was initiated in 2004 with the deployment of 10 satellite collars on adult female caribou at the request of, and after consultation with, Sambaa K'e Dene Band.
I am happy to say that there are extensive consultations in response to requests from other registered First Nations, and have increased the study area and number of First Nations partners in this study.
From looking at the Dehcho Boreal Caribou Study Progress Report, which was completed by April 2016, a total of 145 collars have been deployed on adult female boreal caribou.
Mr. Speaker, in the report, the department studies talk about the daily movement patterns of collared female caribou, which determines when and where a female boreal caribou calved or not. The great thing about using movement data is the department does not need to use the aerial survey, which helps reduce disturbance during the calving period.
Mr. Speaker, as seen from the high number of births and pregnancies from the collared females, this implies that capture and wearing a collar has not prevented females from becoming pregnant nor bearing calves. This is good to hear as they continue to study and monitor the caribou in the Deh Cho.
Mr. Speaker, I have to say the department and regional staff are doing a great job of studying the caribou in our region. It is very interesting to see the home range of the caribou in the Deh Cho.
Mr. Speaker, I was impressed that, in January 2016, the department was part of a cooperative inter-jurisdictional project that had the first aerial wolf survey conducted in the Deh Cho. This information is helping the department with their caribou study.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank the department for doing a great job and encourage them to continue doing it. Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker.
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Herbert Nakimayak
Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, water is life. The vision of the Inuvialuit Water Board is to have clean and plentiful water available today and into the future.
Mr. Speaker, the waters of the Mackenzie Basin eventually flow into the Delta and the Arctic Ocean. The Northwest Territories Water Board was established in 1972 and was renamed the lnuvialuit Water Board in March 2014. It provides for the conservation, development, and use of inland waters to benefit all Canadians and, in particular, the residents of the lnuvialuit Settlement Region.
Mr. Speaker, under the Waters Act, the lnuvialuit Water Board is responsible for licensing water use and waste disposal in the lnuvialuit Settlement Region of the Northwest Territories.
Mr. Speaker, those waters may be in a liquid or solid state, on or below the surface of land. Projects that require large amounts of water and produce waste that could potentially impact the quality of the environment are of concern to the board. The lnuvialuit Water Board also regulates waste that may enter waters and would alter water quality. The role and function of the lnuvialuit Water Board deals with municipal and industrial requests for water licences in the portion of the ISR in the NWT.
Mr. Speaker, the board consists of five members, currently appointed by the Minister for Environment and Natural Resources . Two members are nominated by the lnuvialuit Regional Corporation and one member by the federal Minister of Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development. The board maintains a website and produces an annual report.
Mr. Speaker, the lnuvialuit are ready to take on a more government-to-government approach to the Water Board. As we update the Waters Act to reflect our post-devolution context, we can expect changes in the area of appointments. It is important for the Government of Northwest Territories to make decisions independently.
Mr. Speaker, the lnuvialuit Water Board will have an important role in all future developments in the Delta and Beaufort regions. The Government of Northwest Territories and other governments have a great opportunity to work to protect and preserve water resources. The lnuvialuit will be part of the steps we take towards our vision of clean and plentiful water now and for future generations. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Kieron Testart
Kam Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to recognize Jay Bulckaert and Pablo Saravanja from the Artless Collective. They were big creative forces behind the Dead North Film Festival I spoke about earlier today. Without their mentorship and guidance for the next generation of northern filmmakers, I think we would be further behind than we actually are. Keep making great films and keep helping put the North on the map. Thanks, guys.
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Cory Vanthuyne
Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I, too, would also like to take this opportunity to recognize the gentlemen from Artless Collective, Jay and Pablo. They are not only great film producers and makers, but they are also business residents of Yellowknife North. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Alfred Moses
Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to recognize one of our translators who is here with us this week, Miss Ruth Carroll. She is a former resident of Inuvik and I just want to say mahsi cho for all the work that she is doing translating to the people throughout the Northwest Territories, and also say mahsi cho to all the translators. March is Aboriginal Languages Month, and I appreciate the work that they do in maintaining and revitalizing our Aboriginal languages here in the Northwest Territories. Mahsi.
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Herbert Nakimayak
Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are for the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources . Mr. Speaker, as I mentioned in my Member's statement earlier today, the Inuvialuit are ready to take on a more government-to-government approach to the Water Board. Mr. Speaker, can the Minister explain how the Government of the Northwest Territories would work with the Water Board on some of the benefits of a government-to-government relationship? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Robert C. McLeod
Inuvik Twin Lakes
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In the Government of Northwest Territories, we have a vested interest in working with the Inuvialuit Water Board and the water boards of the Mackenzie Valley. As water partners, we work closely with the Inuvialuit Water Board and other regional and land water boards in the implementation of a five-year action plan for the NWT Water Stewardship Strategy, so we do have a vested interest in working with the water boards with all the Aboriginal governments across the Northwest Territories, and we will continue to do so. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Herbert Nakimayak
Nunakput
I appreciate the response. Mr. Speaker, my second question is: what role will the Inuvialuit Water Board have in the development of a renewed Waters Act?
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Robert C. McLeod
Inuvik Twin Lakes
The Inuvialuit Water Board, they are a key partner with responsibilities to uphold our legislation that governs water resources in the ISR. The Government of the Northwest Territories, through ENR, will be seeking input from all water partners including regulatory authorities such as the Inuvialuit Water Board as we advance work to modernize the Waters Act.
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Herbert Nakimayak
Nunakput
I appreciate the response. Mr. Speaker, my third question is: how has the Inuvialuit Water Board been involved in transboundary water management negotiations?
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Robert C. McLeod
Inuvik Twin Lakes
The Inuvialuit Water Board was asked for input on the GNWT interest development of negotiation position and intention document for both the Alberta-NWT and the BC-NWT agreements as well as the development of a negotiation position for agreement with Saskatchewan and for updating our existing agreement with the Yukon. We have had specific meetings with all of the NWT regulatory boards to solicit input as we move forward with some of these transboundary water agreements.
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Herbert Nakimayak
Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate the response. That leads to my final question. Mr. Speaker, can the Minister explain how the Government of the Northwest Territories and the Inuvialuit Water Board work on transboundary water issues with the Yukon in areas that impact the ISR? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Robert C. McLeod
Inuvik Twin Lakes
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we have an existing agreement with the Yukon that was signed in 2002. We are going through a process right now to update the agreement to align with the more recently completed transboundary water agreements. We will work with the Inuvialuit as we develop our position going forward, and we will continue working with them as well as the other Aboriginal governments across the Northwest Territories.
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Question 659-18(2): Inclusive Schooling Funding
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Shane Thompson
Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I will be asking questions for the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment . Mr. Speaker, as we have seen in the main estimates, ECE has planned to cut $1.8 million from inclusive schooling. ECE has since confirmed to leaving $1.3 million alone and dedicated the rest to a specialized training group for PST teachers. Since this isn't reflected in the mains, where is the department going to find this money, whether it is internally, through a supplemental or presented to this House or both? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Alfred Moses
Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The $1.3 million, as we stated during Committee of the Whole, will be moved back into the inclusive schooling funding that will be provided to the education authorities throughout the Northwest Territories and distributed for the 2017-18 academic year. The remaining $500,000 is going to be used by the department for training of all NWT program support teachers, school principals, as well as classroom assistants in the 2017-18. Currently, right now, some of that training is happening here, in Yellowknife, this week. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Shane Thompson
Nahendeh
I thank the Minister for his answer. I guess my question, though, and I understand that: where is this money? Is it still in the budget? Was it something from here? Okay, thank you.
The Minister has also referenced ECE commitment to seeing a program support teachers in each community NWT school. I understand from our discussions in Committee of the Whole that they will be funded through the health, wellness, and students line item. What dollar amount has been identified to get these positions filled and bring a PST to each NWT school?
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Alfred Moses
Inuvik Boot Lake
For the 2017-18 academic school year, $9.6 million has been identified for approximately 72 program support teachers. The overall budget for inclusive schooling is over $25 million. In the health, wellness, and student support, the line item budget for that is over $3 million.
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Shane Thompson
Nahendeh
I thank the Minister for that answer. That is pretty exciting news, to see that that money is there. Can the Minister tell us how many schools already have at least one PST teacher in place? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Alfred Moses
Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Currently, all education bodies decide how to distribute their inclusive schooling funding throughout their schools to ensure that all schools have needed access to PSTs. We can get the number for the Member. Under our renewed inclusive schooling directive, we have made it mandatory for education bodies to look at prescribing a number of program support teachers based on the enrolment of students in each of their schools in the regions, so that sends a new directive from 2016. We can get those numbers for the Member, how many schools have PSTs right now.
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Shane Thompson
Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the Minister for his answer. I look forward to that information. I guess, when he is providing that information, will the Minister commit to providing us how many new PST teachers will be needed for each school? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Alfred Moses
Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I mentioned, we provide the funding, inclusive schooling funding, to the education authorities, and they work out, based on enrolment, how many program support teachers that they need based on the enrolment and students that they have in each of their schools. We can get that information, working with our education authorities.
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Julie Green
Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my questions are for the Premier , who signed the National Climate Change Framework on our behalf. It has been reported that federal funding would be made available to help meet the costs of governmental measures to reduce greenhouse gas production, such as the replacement of diesel generation. Can the Premier give us an overview of the funding transfers we can expect to receive and any details available at this time on the use of those funds? Mahsi.
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Bob McLeod
Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Our officials have been having discussions with federal officials. We have no details as to those specifics. I expect we will have more information when the federal budget comes out later this spring. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Julie Green
Yellowknife Centre
Thank you to the Premier for that response. Recent media reports indicate that the Nunavut government may be seeking an exemption under its carbon pricing for certain types of fuel, specifically heating fuel, jet fuel, and fuel for generating power. Obviously, action on climate change must be across the board and achieve the new carbon-free economy, which is the only solution to runaway climate change. Can the Premier assure us that we are negotiating a full-spectrum carbon-pricing system to motivate replacement of all categories of fuels?
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Bob McLeod
Yellowknife South
We are holding roundtables throughout the Northwest Territories. We have had very excellent feedback, and we are looking at all options. Certainly, we will do what is best for the people of the Northwest Territories.
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Julie Green
Yellowknife Centre
I didn't hear an answer there, but maybe I will capture it in the next question. As I pointed out, the Mining Association of Canada has announced its endorsement of carbon pricing as the most effective and efficient means of driving emissions reductions. The mining industry in the NWT is both a major producer of greenhouse gases and, of course, a major contributor of revenue. Has our government reached out to the NWT and Nunavut Chamber of Mines to enlist their partnership in transition to a carbon price? If not, will the Premier commit to doing so?
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Bob McLeod
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As people in the southern parts of Canada are wont to do, the Mining Association of Canada without any consultation went ahead and put forward their position on climate change. We understand that that's not necessarily shared by the local Chamber of Mines. We are setting up meetings with them so that we will have very specific industry input and if we do our consultations.
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Julie Green
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Thank you. That's a very curious twist. My last question, Mr. Speaker, is that we recognize that carbon pricing is just one element of an array of measures that must be put in place. Can the Premier report on the current status of the climate change strategic framework and when we may expect to see this document, including a cost of implementation plan with timelines? Mahsi.
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Bob McLeod
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Mr. Speaker, we are continuing with our consultations and we expect that will be completed by the end of March. We have committed to working with the Standing Committee on the Economy and the Environment, so I expect that it will be the fall. The federal has indicated that carbon tax or carbon pricing will be imposed in 2018. Our expectation is that we'll have our strategies completed well before that.
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Cory Vanthuyne
Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'm going to apologize in advance if some of these questions are a duplication. I just sadly lost track a little bit of what my colleagues' questions were being asked. I was focusing on something else, but my questions, however, are for the Minister of Finance . They might be similar in nature.
I just wonder: can the Minister of Finance provide us with some degree of update on what is going on between our territorial government and the federal government on -- I won't call it a negotiation, but discussions on a carbon tax and what regime might be being considered since the federal government's announcement that we will be seeing a carbon tax sometime in the future? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Robert C. McLeod
Inuvik Twin Lakes
Thank you. We have been having discussions with the federal government. We have agreed to work together to better understand the impact of their proposed carbon pricing in the Northwest Territories and, in our meetings we had down there, they understand the unique situation of the North and how it is going to have a wider affect up here than, I think, they expected. So we're continuing to have those discussions and I will update committee as those progressions progress. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Cory Vanthuyne
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Thank you to the Minister for his reply. I wonder if the Minister can share with us at this time, you know, we have shared our concerns with the federal government as it relates to what a carbon tax may or may not do as it relates to our cost of living. Can the Minister maybe provide us any insight as to what that discussion has been like with the federal government, and is there any consideration being given to the impacts that it's going to have on the cost of living here in the North?
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Robert C. McLeod
Inuvik Twin Lakes
We have been having those discussions as an item. As I mentioned earlier, the federal government, we made them well aware of the actual effects of their carbon pricing and the effects it's going to have on the Northwest Territories, so we will continue to have those discussions. We will continue to make our case. I have had assurance from the Minister of Environment Canada that they will recognize the unique situation of the North. Whatever that entails remains to be seen and I guess that's part of the wider discussion that we plan on going with them.
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Cory Vanthuyne
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I appreciate the Minister's reply. I expect that, to some degree, we're going to have the ability to do some kind of tweaking to whatever this form of carbon tax is going to be. We know that other jurisdictions such as Alberta have done some tweaks with regard to their carbon tax. There are some exemptions, Mr. Speaker. The oil and gas industry has certain kinds of exemptions. The agricultural industry has some certain kinds of exemptions. On our front here, are there any exemptions that we'll be considering if a carbon tax is to come into play?
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We're very early in the process, and our exemptions could be one approach. We'll also be looking at rebates or tax credits as approaches to mitigate the impact of cost of living, but we are early in the process. I do realize we had a briefing committee, but I would like to, once we do a bit more of the work. I would like to come forward and have an opportunity to meet with committee, give them some of our early findings, and get some feedback from committee as we continue to move forward. At our earliest opportunity, we will make the offer to committee to have a sit-down with them and have a discussion as we move forward.
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Cory Vanthuyne
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That's well appreciated. We look forward to any information or presentation or briefing that the Minister can provide. That would be fantastic. Lastly, Mr. Speaker, I'm wondering what the intention would be with such a tax in terms of: are we going to neutralize this tax? Is this a tax that's going into general coffers and then just spent as and where the territorial government feels it's required, or is this something that's going to go directly back to investing in reducing our reliance on fossil fuels and investing in developing and initiating alternative energy sources? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Robert C. McLeod
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We haven't determined that yet, but one other thing I could share with Members or share with this House is, in our discussions with Canada, they recognize our high cost of providing services up here and they have a green energy fund, I believe it is, and there are some opportunities for us to apply for money through that fund to help mitigate our emissions. Again, to our advantage is that they know about the high cost of living up here, the 22 or 23 communities on these. We've made that case. I believe that we're working with Canada to try and access some of that green funding.
Again, my offer before stands that, once we do a bit more work on this file and after we pass our budget, then we will have a sit-down with committee and have a discussion moving forward. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Tom Beaulieu
Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh
Mr. Speaker, work is under way to host a charette in Yellowknife in June hosted by Gwich'in Tribal Council with support in the Centre of Indigenous Aboriginal Resources. I'm going to ask the Minister responsible for Climate Change and Energy questions on that. Will the GNWT join those partners to help make the charette happen? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm looking forward to receiving a proposal from the Gwich'in Tribal Council. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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The focus of the charette will be discussions and impacts and opportunities presented by the impending carbon tax and come up with a northern solution. Will the GNWT begin discussions with the group that is working on coming up with a charette?
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Bob McLeod
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The Government of the Northwest Territories is in the process of engaging with energy stakeholders as part of the development of the climate change framework and energy strategy. To date, we have held meetings in Nunavut, Norman Wells, Fort Smith, Yellowknife, and Fort Simpson. Next week, we will hold a session in Hay River. We have an upcoming workshop session in Behchoko. We have received submissions from Alternatives North and other energy consulting businesses and are considering those perspectives.
We welcome the opportunity to hear from all interested parties and will work to integrate those comments and suggestions into our draft energy strategy and climate change framework, which we expect to table in draft form later this year.
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Tom Beaulieu
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In my Member's statement I spoke about the federal government putting $50 million aside for remote Indigenous communities to transition off diesel fuel. Has this government had any discussions with the federal government as to that $50 million fund?
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We've had discussions with the federal government. The federal government has contributed $250,000 for us to hold consultations with regards to developing an energy strategy and a climate change strategy for the Northwest Territories.
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Tom Beaulieu
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as we all know in the House, small communities have lower incomes and there would be some impact from the carbon tax so this money that the federal government has put in place is very specific to transitioning Indigenous off diesel fuel. I was wondering if the Minister could advise us if there have been any discussions specific to that initiative. Thank you.
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I said, our officials have had discussions with federal officials and the indications are that funding that will be used for climate change and to introduce carbon pricing will be in the federal budget that will be coming out sooner. Specifically to the $50 million fund, I'd be pleased to get more information for the Member on that.
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Kieron Testart
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have some questions for the Minister responsible for Public Works and Services . We have made a commitment to reduce a certain per centage of our greenhouse gas emissions in line with international agreements and with our own commitments. We also have an obligation to support our mining industry and to develop new mines. So how is the Northwest Territories going to do both, essentially, when one new mine can increase our greenhouse gas emissions by as much as 25 per cent? Thank you.
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Wally Schumann
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As the Member is well aware, we are in early discussions on how we're going to move the climate change framework forward. As the Premier just stated, we are out in community engagement. We have also met with power suppliers in the Northwest Territories and we are reaching out to the mining industry on how we are going to implement this moving forward. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Kieron Testart
Kam Lake
That work is important work. There are some mines in southern jurisdictions that have converted to 100 per cent electrified processes, which has greatly reduced their greenhouse gas emissions, something that is unlikely to happen in the Northwest Territories.
Is there a plan along with these transportation corridors to expand power supplies for communities and mines? Is that a tangible plan, or are we just talking about it with people in the North?
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Wally Schumann
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Moving forward with our transportation corridors is going to open up a lot of different things in the Northwest Territories, along with lowering the cost of living for a number of communities, for the residents of the Northwest Territories. As for the specific Slave Geological Province, which would open up the road to a significant area of development for the residents of the Northwest Territories and Canada, you can't put the cart before the horse.
We are promoting the corridor and moving forward, looking at if we can do it sustainably without a whole bunch of impacts on the residents of the Northwest Territories and the environment. If we can get the road to the Slave Geological Province built, I'm sure we're going to be looking at how we can access power moving forward to that corridor.
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Kieron Testart
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I would say priorities of building that road, which I support, go hand in hand with the priorities of building a transmission line, and it's debatable which one would come first. It does appear that one is much farther off. Has the department ever considered providing financial incentives for companies or think tanks to provide alternative energy to the mines, specifically, creating a prize for those projects?
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Bob McLeod
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As we move forward with our energy strategy, this is something that maybe the Member wants to bring forward in our community consultation. As the Members of this House all know, the mines are all under a lot of pressure on how to do business in a profitable manner and they continue to look for innovative ways of how to produce power in a cost-effective manner that makes them a profitable business in the Northwest Territories. If the Member would like to bring that initiative forward in one of our community consultations on energy strategy moving forward, I'd be pleased to have that as input.
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm very proud to be a member of this community, but I'm also proud to be a Member of this House and I'm going to bring forward that idea now. So can the Minister commit to developing an incentive for companies to provide alternative energy solutions to industrial activities in the Northwest Territories? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will take it under advisement.
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Kevin O'Reilly
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Merci, Monsieur le President. It seems to be environment and climate change day in the House, and I love it.
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My question is for the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources . The recently released Bathurst Range Plan discussion paper recommends winter-only access in calving and post-calving and summer ranges of the Bathurst caribou herd. Does the Minister accept this recommended next step and that there are trade-offs to be made between caribou protection and mineral development? Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.
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Robert C. McLeod
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we recognize what they're trying to say and there is a correlation between that and some potential development down the road, and we will continue to work on how we can mitigate and find a balance between the two. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Kevin O'Reilly
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Thanks to the Minister for his response. We know that the proposed Grays Bay port and road project, which is on the Nunavut side of the boundary, includes an all-weather road that passes through the calving and post-calving grounds of the Bathurst caribou herd. Is it still the position of our government to oppose development in the calving grounds of caribou herds and will he commit to communicate that position to the Government of Nunavut?
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Robert C. McLeod
Inuvik Twin Lakes
Mr. Speaker, our commitment is to work with the Government of Nunavut on the questions of shared caribou concern. I have already had a preliminary discussion with my counterpart in Nunavut and we will continue to relay our concerns to the Government of Nunavut and work with them in trying to find a balanced approach.
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Kevin O'Reilly
Frame Lake
I thank the Minister for that response and look forward to seeing some of the correspondence that he might have with the Government of Nunavut. Can the Minister explain why our government continues to pursue funding for an all-weather road into the Slave Geological Province before the Bathurst Caribou Range Plan is completed and implemented? It's sort of like putting the cart before the horse.
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Robert C. McLeod
Inuvik Twin Lakes
I take the Member's point. As far as the road, I mean, it's still, very, very early in the discussion stage. We may not see a road for a number of years. If we see a road at all, again, that's contingent on the federal government and the funding that they might have and then as well as funding from the Northwest Territories government once we get through our budget process and we have the resources to commit to these types of projects.
So I can assure the Member that we will continue to do our part to ensure that there is a balance, but we do like to see economic development but not at all costs, and I can assure the Member we will continue to have that position.
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Kevin O'Reilly
Frame Lake
Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I am glad to get that commitment from the Minister. Sorry, I mixed up my analogies a little bit earlier. I should have talked about trucks before the caribou. Clearly, the routing for the Slave Geological Province road was chosen by our government without any regard for caribou, as stated by the Minister of Transportation at least a couple of times in the House. How will Cabinet decide whether such a road can be safely built without causing irreparable harm to the Bathurst caribou herd, or has that decision already been made? Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.
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Robert C. McLeod
Inuvik Twin Lakes
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my understanding is that no decision has been made on the route yet. I think it was just a preliminary discussion. I can assure the Member that it is not development at all costs. We will have a position, and we will continue to put our position forward, ENR, to the appropriate decision-makers. Cabinet actually does not decide on the route. We would work with the decision-makers and make our concerns known on the calving grounds as well as any other effects it might have on the environment.
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Daniel McNeely
Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Guess what, my question is on climate change and directed to the Minister responsible for the Northwest Territories Power Corporation . What preparatory notice has the Power Corporation staff done to notify the customers that are on the potential carbon tax on the 26-community off-grid system? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Louis Sebert
Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I don't think any notice, formal notice, has been given. Thank you.
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Daniel McNeely
Sahtu
Well, that means, if there are no notices given, will there be notices given on the dialogue that has been taken by this government in regional consultations, so the information is going out there rather than hearing it third-party?
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Louis Sebert
Thebacha
Yes, as Members of the House will know, we are working on an energy strategy, and there has been consultation with communities and Members opposite. Those consultations will continue as policy is developed.
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Once policies are being worked on and they are currently working on the strategy, as well, my next question is: will there be some form of notice given out to the customers in those respective communities in the off-grid system?
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Louis Sebert
Thebacha
As mentioned, of course we are developing the energy strategy. I am not sure what type of notice the Member opposite is thinking about. I hope the first notice they have of any change of strategy or plan will not be a higher bill. We are working on an energy strategy. Of course, the Power Corporation is involved in that. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Daniel McNeely
Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My last question is: when is this notice going to be sent out on the impacts on the diesel-burning generators creating electricity in the off-grid communities, and is this notice going to take into the account the potential effectiveness for this tax to take place in 2018? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Louis Sebert
Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Public Works and Services and ENR are working closely to analyze the results from regional workshops in developing statements, targets, and actions to address energy and climate change concerns, so talking about a notice is well down the road in the sense that we have given a notice because it is well-known that we are going out for consultation on our energy strategy moving forward.
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Frederick Blake Jr.
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have two questions, in follow-up to my Member's statement, for the Honourable Premier . I would like to ask the Premier : will the Premier be working with organizers to participate and to make a funding contribution to the proposed charette? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Bob McLeod
Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It would be helpful if the Member would provide who these organizers are and how much money they are looking for. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Frederick Blake Jr.
Mackenzie Delta
In my statement, as I stated earlier, the Gwich'in Tribal Council, along with a number of other Aboriginal governments and community governments in the City of Yellowknife and surrounding, from what I understand, they are looking for in the neighbourhood of $135,000. I am sure the Premier will see another proposal here shortly. From what I understand, there was one submitted earlier, but I am sure another could be resubmitted.
Also, my next question is: to make sure we are not reinventing the wheel, the charette's participants will need to know clearly where this government stands on its energy and climate change planning. How will the Premier in his role as the chair of the Ministerial Coordinating Committee on Energy and Climate Change make sure the charette's organizers have transparent and up-to-date information on the GNWT policies and planning actions, for instance, providing a
summary document and sending staff representation?
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Bob McLeod
Yellowknife South
I am very much looking forward to the proposal. I am not exactly clear whether this is a private sector initiative or it is something for government. At any rate, we have a team of people from the Departments of ENR and Public Works working on public engagement and the development of strategies that align with our long-term objectives. These teams include senior officials of the Government of the Northwest Territories.
The Government of the Northwest Territories has a responsibility to lead the development of an energy strategy and a climate change framework, and that is what we intend to do. We are, of course, open to participating in stakeholder-driven engagement sessions. We may consider providing a
summary document, depending on where we are at in the process of developing an energy strategy and a climate strategy because, from what I understand, what is being proposed is in June and, if we are only halfway through the process and there is nothing finalized, we don't want to mislead anybody. In principle, we are very open to working with all stakeholders.
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Frederick Blake Jr.
Mackenzie Delta
It sounds promising. I would like to ask the Premier : what project priorities can we expect to see the Ministerial Coordinating Committee take action on in the coming year?
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The priorities that we pursue have not been determined, but they will be informed by our energy strategy and our climate change framework that we are developing. Certainly, we are pursuing funding from federal sources for various projects, including Taltson hydro initiatives, Inuvik wind projects, and projects to reduce the use of diesel fuel in Northwest Territories communities.
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Masi. Oral questions. Item 8, written questions. Item 9, returns to written questions. Item 10, replies to Commissioner's opening address. Item 11, petitions. Item 12, reports of standing and special committees. Item 13, reports of committees on the review of bills. Item 14, tabling of documents. Minister of Finance .
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Tabled Document 307-18(2): Government of the Northwest Territories Response to Committee Report 4-18(2): Report on the Review of the 2014-15 Public Accounts Tabled Document 308-18(2): Follow-Up Letter for Oral Question 505-18(2): PeopleSoft Public Service Human Resource Reports Tabled Document 309-18(2): Follow-Up Letter for Oral Question 606-18(2): Status of Transboundary Water Management Agreements
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Robert C. McLeod
Inuvik Twin Lakes
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wish to table the following three documents entitled "Government of the Northwest Territories Response to Committee Report 4-18(2): Report on the Review of the 2014-15 Public Accounts," "Follow-Up Letter for Oral Question 505-18(2): PeopleSoft Public Service Human Resource Reports," and "Follow-Up Letter for Oral Question 606-18(2): Status of Transboundary Water Management Agreements." Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Tabled Document 310-18(2): We Can Do Better: Housing in Inuit Nunagut Report of the Standing Senate Committee on Aboriginal Peoples, Senate of Canada, March 2017
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Herbert Nakimayak
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Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to table the Report of the Standing Senate Committee on Aboriginal Peoples entitled "We Can Do Better: Housing in Inuit Nunagut." Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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