Budget, Oral Questions, Climate Change, Wildlife — 22 February 2016 (18th Assembly, 2nd Session, pp. 63–90)
2016-02-22, 18th Assembly 2nd Session, pp. 63–90
Northwest Territories — Debates (Hansard)
Debates of Feb. 22nd, 2016
This is page numbers 63 - 90 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.
The word of the day was mandate .
Topics
Oral Questions
Members Present
Prayer
Minister’s Statement 2-18(2): Spectacular Stories – Growth For The NWT Tourism Sector
Minister’s Statement 3-18(2): Inuvik Tuktoyaktuk Highway
Minister’s Statement 4-18(2): Expanding Local Housing Services
Fiscal Responsibility And Transparency
Sahtu Regional Health Centre
Fort Mcpherson Elders’ Home Care Facility
Bathurst Caribou Herd Management Plan
Seniors’ Housing Shortages
Addressing Small Community Homelessness
Balanced Approach To Fiscal Planning
Tuktoyaktuk Shoreline Erosion
Dredging The Port Of Hay River
Health Care System Improvements
Seniors’ “aging In Place” Housing Programs
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Retirement Of Janet Diveky
Port Of Hay River Dredging Efforts
Health Care System Improvements
Seniors’ Housing Shortages
Thaidene Nene National Park
Tuktoyaktuk Shoreline Erosion
Fort Mcpherson Elders’ Home Care Facility
Fiscal Responsibility And Transparency
Sahtu Regional Health Centre
Addressing Small Community Homelessness
Bathurst Caribou Herd Management
Seniors’ “aging In Place” Housing Programs
Resources For "aging In Place” Programs
Tabled Document 7-18(2): 2016/17 Marketing Plan - Northwest Territories Tourism
Tabled Document 8-18(2): Public Accounts 2014-2015
Tabled Document 9-18(2): ‘we Live Here For Caribou’ - Cumulative Impacts Study On The Bathurst Caribou
Referral Of Tabled Document 1-18(2): Proposed Mandate Of The Government Of The Northwest Territories, 2016-2019 To Committee Of The Whole
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Proposed Mandate Of The Government Of The Northwest Territories, 2016-2019, Deletion Of Fiscal Context
Section
Recorded Vote
Report of Committee of the Whole
Orders of the Day
Members Present
Hon. Glen Abernethy , Mr. Beaulieu , Mr. Blake , Hon. Caroline Cochrane , Ms. Green , Hon. Jackson Lafferty , Hon. Bob McLeod , Hon. Robert McLeod , Mr. McNeely , Hon. Alfred Moses , Mr. Nadli , Mr. Nakimayak , Mr. O’Reilly, Hon. Wally Schumann , Hon. Louis Sebert , Mr. Simpson , Mr. Testart , Mr. Thompson , Mr. Vanthuyne The House met at 1:29 p.m.
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Prayer
Prayer
The Speaker
Jackson Lafferty
Item 2, Ministers’ statements. Minister of Industry, Tourism, and Investment .
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Minister’s Statement 2-18(2): Spectacular Stories – Growth For The NWT Tourism Sector
Ministers’ Statements
Bob McLeod
Yellowknife South
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Ministers’ Statements
The Speaker
Jackson Lafferty
Mahsi. Ministers’ statements. Minister of Transportation .
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Minister’s Statement 3-18(2): Inuvik Tuktoyaktuk Highway
Ministers’ Statements
Wally Schumann
Hay River South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. With the economy, environment and climate change among the priorities identified by the 18th Legislative Assembly, the Government of Northwest Territories is pleased to highlight the Inuvik-Tuktoyaktuk Highway construction project as a leading example of economic diversification and environmental stewardship. Since the third construction season began in early January, already more than 300 individuals are back at work on the project. Over 70 per cent of the contractors' 24-hour workforce is comprised of residents of the Beaufort Delta region and other NWT communities.
The contractors' workforce peaked at over 600 employees during the busiest part of construction season in March of last year, a substantial contribution toward creating northern jobs. The project is also fulfilling the 18th Assembly's priority to foster life-long learning, skills development, training, and employability by delivering meaningful training opportunities. Already over 130 people have taken advantage of the training offered on different types of rock truck and excavator equipment using a simulator.
Ten heavy equipment operators received additional training over the summer of 2015 and another 12 heavy equipment operation training opportunities are anticipated in 2016. Frontline project personnel are also receiving valuable training on practices necessary to protect water resources during highway construction through a Department of Transportation developed course called Working Near Water. Nationally accredited training in erosion and sediment control practices has also been delivered.
This is in addition to the Predator Defence Training to ensure continued safety of staff on site to help minimize potential negative encounters with wildlife. Our contractor EGT Northwind is focused on hauling and placing approximately 1.4 million cubic metres of material this season to construct approximately 50 km of embankment. Work also includes installing four bridges and 19 major culverts. The contractor’s goal is to see the north and south construction spreads joined towards the end of April. We are pleased to confirm that the project remains on
schedule and continues to be managed within the $299-million budget. All operations of this project are subject to continuous monitoring by regulatory agencies. The Department employs construction and operational procedures that use the best environmental practices to ensure wildlife, land, fisheries, and water resources are protected with wildlife and environmental monitors on site 24 hours a day. Staff continues tracking progress on the 286 regulatory commitments to ensure the project is delivered in a manner that addresses the concerns, expectations, and requirements of all parties involved.
This is a one-of-a-kind highway infrastructure project. It's engineered to protect the region's continuous permafrost environment by adapting innovative construction methods. The Department of Transportation is organizing a science summit in April for world experts in permafrost, cold-region engineering, and northern infrastructure to see the project, watch construction, and visit two separate research-development test sites sponsored by Transport Canada's Northern Adaptation Initiative. One project constructed at Kilometre 22 will test the performance of alternative drainage structures.
The goal is to find ways to minimize ineffective water drainage on highway embankments near drainage structures. A particular focus of this project is to reduce heat transfer through various types of drainage structures. The second research project, at Kilometre 82, involves building a deep-fill embankment
section to assess the benefits of adding geotextile materials between successive lists of material to add stability. In addition, the embankment is instrumented with over 70 thermistor devices to monitor ground temperature. The aim is to improve highway construction methods in the future by gaining a better understanding of permafrost conditions. In addition to the science community, the construction project continues to receive attention from international audiences already planning to drive or cycle what will become Canada's only public highway to the Arctic Coast. The author of a recent feature in the New York Times' travel
section wrote that during his career as an American diplomat visiting places like France, Israel, and Haiti, the Arctic expanse in Canada is the most exotic places he's been. Progress of the construction of the Inuvik-Tuktoyaktuk Highway is exciting to observe. Once completed, Northerners will have the contribution, fulfilling a vision of Canada's connection by road from coast to coast to coast. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Minister’s Statement 3-18(2): Inuvik Tuktoyaktuk Highway
Ministers’ Statements
The Speaker
Jackson Lafferty
Mahsi. Ministers’ statements. Minister responsible for NWT Housing Corporation.
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Minister’s Statement 4-18(2): Expanding Local Housing Services
Ministers’ Statements
Caroline Cochrane
Range Lake
Mr. Speaker, increasing the availability of safe affordable housing and building stronger relationships with community governments and other stakeholders are two of the priorities agreed to by Members of the Legislative Assembly. I am pleased to report that the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation is working on both of these priorities by creating new local housing organizations in Fort Liard, Gameti, and Whati. Not only will this create jobs in the community and increase economic development, it'll also greatly improve service to community members.
Residents who previously had questions about their housing corporation of rental units or homeowners that were interested in repair programs previously had to contact their housing corporation district office for more information. These changes mean that the residents get the answers that they require immediately. The investment in new local housing organizations in these communities will result in the hiring of fulltime housing support staff, including a housing manager, a maintenance supervisor, and a housing maintainer for each community.
In Gameti, the housing office and workshop have been setup and are now open for business. Planning for housing offices in Whati and Fort Liard is now underway. In the communities of Colville Lake and Wekweeti, the Housing Corporation and the Department of the Executive will be partnering in an initiative that will have Government Service Officers provide some housing information and administrative support.
The expansion of housing services in communities and the increased emphasis on a more person-centred approach will make the delivery of services more accessible to community residents across the Northwest Territories. These changes respond to the needs of our people and will build community capacity as local residents will be hired and trained to take on the roles in the new LHOs that are being established. These actions support our government's priorities of ensuring that we invest wisely in our workplace and that we have a housing system that is safe and affordable.
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Minister’s Statement 4-18(2): Expanding Local Housing Services
Ministers’ Statements
The Speaker
Jackson Lafferty
Mahsi. Ministers’ statements. Colleagues, I'd like to draw your attention to the special guests in the gallery today. We have 10 young men and women who are participating in the Ontario Legislature Internship Programme, visiting us for the rest of the week along with their academic director. I understand that they are looking forward to seeing consensus-style government in action, and I want to assure them that they have come to the right place.
---Applause
On behalf of all Members of the Legislative Assembly, may I extend a warm welcome to the Northwest Territories and to the Chamber. Mahsi and welcome. Item 3, Members’ statements. Member for Nahendeh .
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Fiscal Responsibility And Transparency
Members’ Statements
Shane Thompson
Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On Friday, the Finance Minister provided the people of NWT with the government's fiscal update. It was interesting, to say the least. The Minister said the government is committed to fiscal responsibility and the government's Fiscal Responsibility Policy. He went on to say we need to live within our means, not just for today or just for this year, but for all four years of the 18th Assembly. After reading this, I tried to wrap my head around what he meant by “fiscal responsibility.” I spent the weekend doing research on what fiscal responsibility should mean to the government.
This is the definition I like best: “A pledge of fiscal responsibility is a government's assurance that it judicially spends, earns and generates funds without placing undue hardship on its citizens. It includes a moral contract to maintain a fiscally sound government for future generations on the understanding that a functional society is difficult to maintain without a fiscally secure government.” As I read more articles about fiscal responsibility, it became clearer that government can take these necessary steps to be responsible to their citizens.
All that is needed is to develop and implement some sort of fiscal transparency. This would involve a number of things, including the ones that I will identify here: finding areas to reduce waste; identifying areas of financial ineffectiveness; identifying ways the government can function better; and identifying other funding opportunities.
I know it is sometimes hard to make all aspects of the budget visible to the public, but the government needs to look at better ways to engage the public and the public servants, not just the senior staff.
Later on in the speech, the Finance Minister said, “We cannot take the position of an ostrich and bury our heads in the sand and pretend and hope to escape reality.” I agree. However, the government cannot be like Chicken Little and go around crying, “The sky is falling” every chance they get and expect business and people to want to come and invest and live in the NWT. I agree with the Minister that we were aware that there were going to be some challenging times and hard choices to be made during the 18th Assembly. I would like to seek unanimous consent to conclude my statemen ---Unanimous consent granted.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and sorry for not getting that right. I will hopefully get it right next time. I agree that we must work together to address these fiscal challenges. Unfortunately, I'm not sure what we meant by working together. Later on, I'll have some questions for the Minister of Finance . Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Fiscal Responsibility And Transparency
Members’ Statements
The Speaker
Jackson Lafferty
Mahsi. Members’ statements. Member for Sahtu .
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Sahtu Regional Health Centre
Members’ Statements
Daniel McNeely
Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today, I address in my Members' statement a building under construction in Norman Wells, a building that is going to cost this government $35 million to provide well-needed healthcare to the surrounding communities. For the newcomers in the audience, I represent five communities in the Central Mackenzie. It's remote. We've got three ways to go in there. We have no all-weather road, so the government provides meaningful institutions and services to our five communities.
Getting back to the statement here, the facility is under construction, but is going to be seeing the opening of the doors within this calendar year. In addition to the regional facility, we are going to see 18 rooms to accommodate long-term care for elders as well, so that's very exciting news for the area. Later I will have questions for the Health Minister . Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Sahtu Regional Health Centre
Members’ Statements
The Speaker
Jackson Lafferty
Mahsi. Members’ statements. Member for Mackenzie Delta .
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Fort Mcpherson Elders’ Home Care Facility
Members’ Statements
Frederick Blake Jr.
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in February 2010, the Hamlet Council of Fort McPherson passed a motion supporting the construction of an elders' homecare facility in the community. The Hamlet Council and community members were very happy when this $3 million facility was put in the GNWT's Capital Plan. Construction was scheduled for 2015-2016. Like every other community in the Northwest Territories, Fort McPherson is challenged to provide appropriate housing for its residents. Our esteemed elders deserve comfortable and secure accommodations during their golden years.
This nine-unit multiplex, which is designed to house eight seniors plus a caretaker, is much needed in the community. Since the Hamlet Council motion six years ago, the community has waited patiently for this important project. Community members are concerned, and so am I, Mr. Speaker, that progress on this project seems to be stalled. During last year's construction season, the contractor drilled half a dozen pilings on the site. I was told that work halted when they hit water during the season, which was August, Mr. Speaker. There has been no visible progress on site.
Therefore, today I will be seeking an answer to the questions: What is causing the delay in the construction of this much-needed facility and when can community members expect to see it completed?
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Fort Mcpherson Elders’ Home Care Facility
Members’ Statements
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Jackson Lafferty
Mahsi. Members’ statements. Member for Frame Lake .
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Bathurst Caribou Herd Management Plan
Members’ Statements
Kevin O'Reilly
Frame Lake
The Bathurst caribou herd has suffered a catastrophic decline over the last 30 years from 472,000 to as low as 16,000 animals today. The response from this government to date has largely been centred on restricting the harvest by non-Aboriginal people and more recently, on Aboriginal peoples who have agreed to not take any caribou from this herd. The causes of the decline are not clear but we do know that the herd is less resilient when numbers are low and any further cumulative impacts may push the herd beyond the point of no return.
A recently released study by the Tlicho Research and Learning Institute found: "The establishment of large-scale mines and associated industrial activities on the Bathurst caribou habitat as the main factor behind caribou health defects and changes to their behaviour and migration." It also states, "In response, caribou have chosen to avoid centres of mining activities due to poor-quality forage and noise and dust pollution.
The activities of the resource extraction industry around the Ekati, Lac de Gras, area, have established a ‘wall’ blocking the main caribou migration route.” This study also marks a remarkable convergence of traditional knowledge and western science. Data from collars and aerial surveys have established a Zone of Influence around the diamond mines where caribou calves and cows are less likely to be found. I attended a cumulative effects workshop for the Slave Geological Province in 1993 following two mineral staking seasons where an area the size of France was taken up.
There have been many, many workshops and meetings since then on cumulative effects on the Bathurst caribou herd but there is still no management plan for the herd, no legally binding land use plan for the Northwest Territories' portion of the range of the herd, and I am not aware of one square centimetre of land that has been permanently protected for the caribou in the Northwest Territories or Nunavut. Mr. Speaker, I seek a unanimous consent to conclude my statement.
---Unanimous consent granted
It is not just this MLA that is concerned about the state of the Bathurst caribou herd. The Mackenzie Valley Review Board said this in its February 1, 2016, report on the Jay Project, “The lack of a management plan for the Bathurst caribou herd during a period of very low numbers and a declining population is unacceptable to the Review Board. There is no evidence the GNWT is developing a herd recovery strategy. The Review Board notes that the GNWT was required by
Section 12.11.2 of the Tlicho Agreement to prepare a comprehensive proposal for the management of the Bathurst caribou herd within three years of the effective date of that land claim.” That was 2005, Mr. Speaker. “There is no evidence before the Review Board that this legal obligation has been satisfied. The GNWT needs to complete and implement an interim recovery and management plan for the Bathurst caribou herd before this herd's population is so reduced that recovery of the herd is no longer likely.” That's the end of the quote.
I will be tabling the Tlicho Research and Learning Institute Report I mentioned earlier, and I will have questions for the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources . Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.
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Bathurst Caribou Herd Management Plan
Members’ Statements
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Jackson Lafferty
Mahsi. Members’ statements. Member for Yellowknife Centre .
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Seniors’ Housing Shortages
Members’ Statements
Julie Green
Yellowknife Centre
Mr. Speaker, the NWT's population of older adults is projected to grow dramatically in the next ten years. The number of adults over age 75 across the NWT is expected to double, and here in Yellowknife it's expected to triple. These numbers come from a strategic plan developed by Avens: A Community for Seniors. If we want these seniors, along with their transfer payments and consumer spending, to stay in the NWT, we need to offer them affordable housing. Instead of enjoying a comfortable and secure old age, many seniors in Yellowknife face long waitlists to access the housing they need.
A total of 54 people are on the waiting list to get into Aven Ridge and Aven Court. They're going to wait a long time for those 32 units. In fact, if you join the list today, you may wait as long as six years for a unit to become available. Meanwhile, people who are unable to live independently are also waitlisted for long-term care at Aven Manor and the Territorial Dementia Facility. The situation of people who are waiting for long-term and dementia care is especially troubling. Here's why: One of my constituents has been living independently all his adult life. He's now in his late 60s.
But he's developing dementia. He lives alone. Sometimes he walks away from where he lives very late at night, not dressed properly for the weather, confused and unable to find his way home. His dementia is putting him in danger. Family have been helping. They take turns cooking for him and they take him to medical appointments, but they have full-time jobs so it's hard to keep him safe on a 24-hour-a-day basis. Neighbours keep an eye out for him, too. His doctor believes the best place for him to go is the Territorial Dementia Facility, but it's full.
He was offered a spot in Fort Smith, but his family said no because they all live here in Yellowknife and he has lived here all his life. He doesn't know anyone in Fort Smith. His family is worried that he is now at the bottom of the waiting list because he won't move. The GNWT informally committed $12.5 million to building an athletes’ village for the 2023 Canada Winter Games with an additional matching amount from the federal government. Now it looks as if we won't need an athletes’ village because there isn't enough public support to bid on those games. May I seek unanimous consent, Mr.
Speaker, to conclude my statement? Thank you.
---Unanimous consent granted
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Now it looks like we won't need an athletes’ village because there isn't enough public support to bid on those Games, but we still need the housing. I will have questions for the Minister responsible for Seniors about committing money pledged for the athletes’ village to seniors' housing. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Addressing Small Community Homelessness
Members’ Statements
Michael Nadli
Deh Cho
Mr. Speaker, homelessness looks different in the North than in southern Canada. Homelessness is less visible here, but just as distressing. Our harsh winter temperatures force the homeless indoors where they wind up couch surfing, moving between the homes of family and friends for two or three days at a time. They arrive late, leave early, and spend their days walking around. They struggle with addictions. They hide from local housing organizations so their hosts don't suffer the consequences such as increased rent or renovations for housing an extra person. It's a hard life.
The statistics on homelessness are unreliable and vary widely. For example, the City of Yellowknife estimates their homeless population at 150, while The Homeless Hub, the Calgary think tank, and the Yellowknife Homelessness Coalition would estimate the number of people who access Yellowknife shelters at over 900 per year, almost five per cent of the city's population. A lot of people from small communities migrate to Yellowknife when they are homeless, meaning they may have even less support from family and friends. Because the homeless have no permanent address, they can't be easily counted.
This makes it difficult for governments to assess the size of the problem or to adequately address it. The Northwest Territories Housing Corporation has introduced Northern Pathways to Housing, a program to partner with three smaller communities to operate transitional housing. That's three communities out of 27, Mr. Speaker. Clearly, the GNWT underestimates the size of the homelessness problem. In Fort Providence, five per cent of the population equals 40 people.
This is the number of homeless estimated by a new not-for-profit group called the Community Advancement Partnership Society, or CAPS, which has formed in Fort Providence. Their goal is to fund the construction of a multiplex with seven to single-bedroom units to provide the Housing First for those who need it the most. The Housing First report has been used successfully by the City of Medicine Hat, which launched the program in 2009 to provide small permanent apartments to homeless residents. Six years later, they have housed 885 homeless adults and children and are nearing their goal of eradicating homelessness.
Mayor Ted Clugston makes financial sense. You can actually save money by giving somebody some dignity and giving them places to stay. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to complete my statement. Mahsi.
---Unanimous consent granted
Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mahsi, colleague. Fort Providence CAPS is using some creative approaches to raise funds, including an online crowdfunding campaign on GoFundMe.com and a “chase the ace” funding campaign, which works a lot like a payday pool and is becoming a popular way for charities to raise funds. It could take three years or more for CAPS to achieve their funding goal. In the meantime, there are homeless people needing assistance.
Fort Providence needs support from the GNWT in the form of transitional housing, income support, and addictions treatment to lift the homeless up and help them turn their lives around. The Housing First approach has proven successful in reducing homelessness and saving program dollars in communities across North America, including Saskatoon, Medicine Hat, and Montreal, to name a few. When is the GNWT going to get on board and make this program available to every small community in the Northwest Territories that needs and wants it? Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. MR. SPEAKER
: Mahsi. Members’ statements. Member for Yellowknife North .
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Balanced Approach To Fiscal Planning
Members’ Statements
Cory Vanthuyne
Yellowknife North
Mr. Speaker, as the 18th Assembly gets down to business, there's a degree of uneasiness out there among the people of the Northwest Territories. Notwithstanding the Premier 's good-news comments just now on tourism, there's been very little good economic news of late. The oil patch has slowed to a standstill, our friends to the south in Alberta have seen up to 35,000 people laid off over the past couple of years, and the Canadian dollar is only worth 70 cents U.S. Although there was a partial restoration of our Territorial Formula Financing funding, a significant portion still remains in question.
Here at home, oil and gas exploration has slowed down to nothing. One of the three diamond projects has gone into care and maintenance while also moving their head office to the South. Right now things aren't that good, and that gives all of us a sense of uncertainty, and that's not comforting for most folks. I share in the concern of many, that this government has chosen this time to pile on with drastic fiscal measures in the interests of balancing the books by the end of our term.
While balanced books are a nice thing to have, they should not be the single overriding factor determining our fiscal direction over the life of the 18th Assembly. In challenging times, it is important to be cautious and sensible in allocating public resources, but austerity for its own sake does not constitute a benefit to families, businesses, and communities. It does not constitute better government. We must take a triple- bottom-line approach to conducting our business, one that sees a balance struck in managing our financial, social, and environmental responsibilities.
I'm also concerned that decisions taken now in response to the current economic climate will tie our hands over this Assembly's entire term. A year from now the economic picture might be very different. We should not make decisions now that will restrict our flexibility to respond to changing circumstances. Northerners demand that we be sensible with public dollars, indeed. But they also call on this government to do careful research into the impacts and consequences of fiscal decisions.
They need us to conduct open and thorough consultation with Regular Members, Aboriginal governments, the business community, and the public on government priorities and initiatives. They call on us to not commit ourselves to a direction we cannot change. I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement. Thank you. ---Unanimous consent granted
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, colleagues. They call on us to not commit ourselves to a direction we cannot change, and they call on us to not prioritize balanced government books over the real needs of families, businesses, and communities. It's a crucial time in our history, Mr. Speaker, and our decisions will have extensive impacts across the territory. I call on this government to engage in broad consultation, conduct careful research and consideration, and apply a balanced approach toward the way we conduct our business before we commit to a course of action that may tie our hands later. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Balanced Approach To Fiscal Planning
Members’ Statements
The Speaker
Jackson Lafferty
Mahsi. Members’ statements. Member for Nunakput .
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Tuktoyaktuk Shoreline Erosion
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Herbert Nakimayak
Nunakput
Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I will talk about the community of Tuktoyaktuk and the major changes to come in the next 10 to 20 years. Shoreline erosion has major effects on the housing infrastructure, as well as some of the roads in the community completely flooded during the fall storms. This has since eroded the shoreline on the northwest side of the community, and if there are no action plans in place some homes will collapse into the ocean, which will result in families and the GNWT losing much-needed homes.
This will also create environmental issues, as a majority of the community harvest beluga and fish in and around the harbour, which will affect the social and cultural well-being of the community. Currently some of the areas of the community are no longer suitable for building with encroachment and some homes will have to be moved to higher ground. With the completion of the all-season Inuvik-Tuktoyaktuk Highway, it will have major positive and negative impacts in the community.
Having access in the summer will give the GNWT a better window of access to work on the shoreline erosion, as well as set the tone for relocating homes that are immediately affected. Tuktoyaktuk will require a new land use plan to better manage development within the community's boundaries. Some action plans may include identifying some of the land parcels for development that will protect against flooding in the fall season. Today I will have questions for the Minister responsible for Municipal and Community Affairs .
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Dredging The Port Of Hay River
Members’ Statements
R.J. Simpson
Hay River North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm using my first few Members’ statements of this Assembly to inform the other Members and the people of the NWT about the major issues affecting Hay River. I know the returning Members are aware of this particular issue, because my predecessor made countless statements on it. I'm speaking of the build-up of sediments in the Port of Hay River, which has reached a crisis level. The federal government used to dredge the waterways around Hay River and at points on the Mackenzie River. That program ended in the early 1990s and virtually nothing has been done since.
The result is that tugs are dragging barges through silt, boats are being damaged, and veteran commercial fishermen aren't willing to go out on the water because it's unsafe. I'm aware that dredging is the federal government's responsibility. That was the answer my predecessor received over and over again when he tried to spur this government into action. Regardless of whose responsibility it is, it's our problem and we have to do something about it. Safe marine operating conditions are vital to maintaining and growing the South Slave economy. The Port of Hay River is the largest inland port in Western Canada.
It is home to a Canadian Coast Guard base, the federal Department of Fisheries and Oceans office, and NTCL's operations headquarters. It's the heart of the NWT's fishing industry. The port is the reason that the town of Hay River exists, so it's shocking that we've let its condition deteriorate to this level. The proposed mandate contains a bold vision for the NWT's fishing industry. The problem is that if the fishermen can't get to the fish because the port is too shallow and unsafe, then we don't have an industry. It's as simple as that. Hay River has a burgeoning tourist industry with amazing potential.
With our southern proximity and access the town could be a destination for recreational boaters and sport fishers, and in fact, there are entrepreneurs making investments in that market right now. Without action on dredging, that opportunity is lost. The viability of our shipping industry and the cost of goods up the Mackenzie are also directly and negatively affected by our lack of action. This problem has consequences beyond Hay River. Finally, as each year passes and the sediment builds up, the risk of flooding grows greater.
We've been lucky recently, but the flooding in 2009 is a reminder that our luck won't last forever. From what I can tell, the previous government did little more than encourage the federal government to dredge, which seems to have gotten us nowhere. I hope this government will be more proactive. I will be working towards finding solutions, so hopefully together we can fix this problem once and for all. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Dredging The Port Of Hay River
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Jackson Lafferty
Mahsi. Members’ statements. Member for Kam Lake .
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Health Care System Improvements
Members’ Statements
Kieron Testart
Kam Lake
Mr. Speaker, one of the highest priorities of any government must be the health and well-being of its citizens. The delivery of quality and affordable healthcare is a cornerstone of good government in Canada and it's something that Northerners have come to expect. Yet the standards of the Northwest Territories' healthcare system vary wildly across regions and not all of our residents have the same standard of care.
The 17th Assembly recognized the need to take action on improving healthcare and began the process of health system transformation in an effort to provide the best possible care to patients and clients: A system that is focused on the needs of clients and that is efficient, sustainable, and accountable. Standardized levels of care and healthcare policies will also make it easier to implement broad policy changes that may be required by emergent concerns, such as the imminent issue of physician-assisted dying.
How our government proceeds with that and other issues is just as crucial as having a means to deliver on those new policies and a stronger healthcare system, and is a welcome initiative on the part of this government. While it is agreeable that our government continue to make progress and improvements to our healthcare system, we owe it to Northerners to ensure that a holistic and integrated approach is taken that respects regional differences and ensures that all of our people have a voice in how system operates.
Significant changes to how our government provides any public service must be carefully implemented and effectively communicated, especially as it relates to the provision of healthcare. I will have questions for the Minister on the current status of health system transformation, as well as questions on the structure and overall benefits to healthcare this new system will provide to Northerners. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. –
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Members’ statements. Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh .
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Seniors’ “aging In Place” Housing Programs
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Tom Beaulieu
Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh
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Jackson Lafferty
Mahsi. Members’ statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Honourable Premier .
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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Bob McLeod
Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm very pleased to recognize the NWT Tourism executive director, Cathie Bolstad and marketing director, Ron Ostrom. Welcome.
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Jackson Lafferty
Mahsi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Hay River North .
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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
R.J. Simpson
Hay River North
This week we have two Pages from Diamond Jenness Secondary School in Hay River. I'd like to recognize them, Riella Bordey and Marcel Frise. They're grade 9 students and they'll be helping us out all week, and I thank them. I'd also like to thank my constituency assistant, Anne Peters, in the gallery. She's also a constituent. Prior to this, she was an executive assistant at the Chamber of Commerce in Hay River and spent 22 years with the Canadian Armed Forces. I'd also like to recognize Mandee McDonald and Erin Freeland Ballantyne from Dechinta University.
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Kieron Testart
Kam Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd also like to recognize Mandee McDonald and Erin Freeland Ballantyne. Both work with Dechinta Centre for Research and Learning, which is a great made-in-the-North post-secondary institution, and it's good to see them here. Thank you.
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Jackson Lafferty
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Robert C. McLeod
Inuvik Twin Lakes
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Jackson Lafferty
Mahsi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Inuvik Boot Lake .
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Alfred Moses
Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Along with my colleagues, I'd like to recognize Mandee McDonald and Erin Freeland Ballantyne, who do some very good work with Dechinta University. Welcome to the House.
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Jackson Lafferty
Mahsi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Yellowknife North .
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Cory Vanthuyne
Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I must, like my colleagues, pour it on. I want to recognize Erin Freeland Ballantyne and Mandee McDonald from Dechinta. Dechinta’s offices are in the riding of Yellowknife North. Like the Premier , I also want to take the opportunity to recognize the executive director of NWT Tourism, Cathie Bolstad, as she is also a resident of Yellowknife North. I thank them all for coming today.
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: Mahsi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. If we missed those individuals in the gallery I'd like to welcome everyone for being here today with us. It's always great to have an audience in the gallery.
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Jackson Lafferty
Item 6, acknowledgements. Member for Yellowknife Centre .
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Acknowledgement 3-18(2): Retirement Of Janet Diveky
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Julie Green
Yellowknife Centre
Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to acknowledge and congratulate Janet Diveky on her retirement from Public Works and Services. Mrs. Diveky taught throughout the Arctic before moving to Yellowknife with her husband and family in 1988. She joined Public Works and Services as a Library Technician then and again in 2003, with a return to teaching in-between. Mrs. Diveky is known for her volunteer efforts, especially with the Yellowknife Association for Community Living. She's also well known for her skills as a potter. I'd like to congratulate Mrs. Diveky on her career at Public Works and Services and wish her and her family well in her retirement.
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Jackson Lafferty
Mahsi. Item 7, oral questions. Member for Hay River North .
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Question 23-18(2): Port Of Hay River Dredging Efforts
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R.J. Simpson
Hay River North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Further to my Member’s statement today, I have questions I'd like to direct at the Minister of Transportation regarding the dredging of the port of Hay River. Given the importance of safe marine operating conditions to the physical well-being of those using the waterways and the economic well-being of the industries that depend on those waterways what, if any, responsibility does the GNWT have in regards to ensuring safe marine operating conditions?
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Jackson Lafferty
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Question 23-18(2): Port Of Hay River Dredging Efforts
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Wally Schumann
Hay River South
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Question 23-18(2): Port Of Hay River Dredging Efforts
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R.J. Simpson
Hay River North
Given that during that the last Assembly, the then Minister of Transportation recognized the importance of a viable harbour in Hay River to the economic well-being of the community, the region, and the territory, has the government analyzed the potential economic benefits of taking concrete action in regards to dredging?
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Question 23-18(2): Port Of Hay River Dredging Efforts
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Wally Schumann
Hay River South
The economic importance of the Hay River harbour to private industry, commercial fishing industry, tourism, and recreational users in the public sector, the Canadian Coast Guard and the National Defence marine supply operations will have an impact on the cost of living. Twelve communities depend on marine resupply for delivery of essential cargo; four communities depend exclusively on marine and air resupply. Fifteen per cent reduction in maximum barge loads last summer for Hay River; a significant infill and the siltation are key locations in the Hay River harbour and East Channel impacts on NTL's commercial fishing vessels and other vessels.
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Question 23-18(2): Port Of Hay River Dredging Efforts
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R.J. Simpson
Hay River North
Because the GNWT does undertake the obligation to encourage the federal government to dredge, has there been any progress on this issue during your meetings with the new federal Minister or with the Prime Minister?
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Question 23-18(2): Port Of Hay River Dredging Efforts
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Wally Schumann
Hay River South
I recently met with Minister Tootoo, the federal Minister of Fisheries, Oceans and the Canadian Coast Guard, in January in Ottawa. We discussed the NWT marine issues, including dredging of the Hay River harbour. We also followed up with Minister Tootoo on a formal request for reinstatement of the federal Arctic marine resupply sites and the management program within the NWT, with emphasis on critical need for proper maintenance of the 14 federally owned and operated community marine facilities in the NWT, including the Hay River harbour. Proper maintenance is essential to safe and timely cost-effective marine resupply in NWT communities and industry.
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Jackson Lafferty
Mahsi. Oral questions. Member for Hay River North .
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Question 23-18(2): Port Of Hay River Dredging Efforts
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R.J. Simpson
Hay River North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It's good to hear that we're engaging the appropriate federal Ministers on this topic. Finally, in addition to encouraging the federal government to dredge the areas in question, would this government be willing to provide any assistance to the federal government such as planning, logistical support, or possibly committing a small amount of resources towards it if such assistance was required to initiate the project? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Question 23-18(2): Port Of Hay River Dredging Efforts
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Wally Schumann
Hay River South
The fiscal and legal responsibility to ensure safe marine operation conditions in the Northwest Territories and across Canada is a federal responsibility. This includes dredging of the Hay River harbour to ensure safe operating conditions for all vessels with sufficient water depths to ensure safe and unobstructed passage. The Department of Transportation continues to press the federal government to maintain marine facilities in NWT. The Department of Transportation is also finalizing plans for a workshop in Hay River in mid-April with the focus on the Hay River harbour and dredging.
Key stakeholders have been notified. The anticipated workshop will result in an effective dredging plan for Hay River harbour, and marine stakeholders are very interested. I expect a positive result for the Hay River harbour and the town of Hay River.
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Jackson Lafferty
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Question 24-18(2): Health Care System Improvements
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Kieron Testart
Kam Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Given the importance of the health care system and that any major changes to it are significant concern for our residents, will the Minister of Health and Social Services provide an explanation for the delay of the transformation of health care in the Northwest Territories. Thank you.
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Question 24-18(2): Health Care System Improvements
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Jackson Lafferty
Mahsi. The Minister of Health and Social Services , Mr. Abernethy .
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Question 24-18(2): Health Care System Improvements
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Glen Abernethy
Great Slave
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the legislation has given us the authority to move to one authority in the Northwest Territories, as well as the Tlicho and Hay River Health authorities, was passed in May/June. It was initially intended to go live on April 1, but as a result of a number of factors including our difficulty getting the financial system for use by all the authorities; some delays we experienced during the election campaign; communication; and our ability to set up those wellness councils; and our delay in hiring a CEO -- I’ve decided to move forward the go-live date to August 1, 2016.
That will give us the time to do that incredibly important work before we go live with the one authority. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Kieron Testart
Kam Lake
On to the issue of regional wellness committees, what progress has been made in selecting those committees? What kinds of input are going into those choices?
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Glen Abernethy
Great Slave
Last year I convened a meeting of Aboriginal leadership from across the Northwest Territories and had discussion around this exact topic. We sought input and advice from them, as well as other stakeholders from across the Northwest Territories on what the make-up of those committees should be. We are just in the process right now of doing some call letters out to the different organizations, including MLAs, on nominations for individuals to go on those wellness councils, based on the work that was done. Once that's done, we'll move forward with the establishment of those wellness committees.
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Kieron Testart
Kam Lake
Given the imminent concerns of our fiscal situation in the Northwest Territories, will there be cost-saving efficiencies as a result of standardizing care in the NWT?
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Question 24-18(2): Health Care System Improvements
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Glen Abernethy
Great Slave
We've been very clear since the initial discussions around health transformation that this isn't about saving money, necessarily. This is more about improving the quality of care that we're providing to our residents by removing some of the barriers that exist for them today. We do know that there's a number of functions that occur in each of the authorities, that by working together we'll be able to control our costs and possibly have some savings, but mostly this is focused on improving our care for the residents of the Northwest Territories.
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Jackson Lafferty
Mahsi. Oral questions. Member for Kam Lake .
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Kieron Testart
Kam Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and onto the point of improved health care. Will there be reduced wait times and more access to medical professionals after the implementation of the new system? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Question 24-18(2): Health Care System Improvements
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Glen Abernethy
Great Slave
One of the things we are attempting to do with this health transformation is remove some of the barriers that exist today as one individual moves from authority to authority to authority to get the different services. As we tighten up our services, come with more standard procedures, more standard guidelines, as well as clinical standards, we should be able to improve the turn-around and more importantly, the response and the care that our residents get.
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Question 24-18(2): Health Care System Improvements
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The Speaker
Jackson Lafferty
Mahsi. Oral questions. Member for Yellowknife Centre , Ms. Green .
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Question 25-18(2): Seniors’ Housing Shortages
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Julie Green
Yellowknife Centre
Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. My questions are for the Minister responsible for Seniors . How is the government preparing for the greater number of seniors and their needs? Thank you.
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Jackson Lafferty
Mahsi. Minister responsible for Seniors .
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Question 25-18(2): Seniors’ Housing Shortages
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Glen Abernethy
Great Slave
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
r. Speaker, there's a number of things we're doing, but I'll focus primarily on the beds that we're going to need for seniors here in the Northwest Territories. We've just completed our long-term care review, which I'm going to be sharing with committee in the coming weeks. I'm in the process of drafting a letter to send to committee so that I can share it with them, and hopefully we'll have an opportunity to sit down for a meeting. But I'll give some up front numbers: By 2026 this government is going to be 259 beds short in long-term care.
Forty-seven of those are in the Beaufort Delta, ten of those are in the Sahtu, 29 in the Deh Cho, five in the Tlicho region, 123 in Yellowknife, 31 in South Slave, and 14 in Fort Smith. This is a significant number. On average, it costs us about $130,000 a bed to operate a long-term care bed in the Northwest Territories, and on average anywhere from $800,000 to $1.5 million per bed to construct long-term care. We have a significant challenge in front of us. I'm looking forward to bringing the report to committee and having discussions on how we can move forward on this.
We are starting to put together a draft plan to have some discussions with committee. The bottom line is we're going to have to think outside the box on this one. We're going to have to look for creative solutions. We're going to have to work with partners to find a way to provide these 259 beds for our aging population here in the Northwest Territories. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Question 25-18(2): Seniors’ Housing Shortages
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Julie Green
Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Minister, for that response and for that new information that quantifies the size of the problem. It's actually much larger than I had anticipated. There's some long-term work that needs to be done, but there are immediate needs, too, that come out of our broken continuum of housing for seniors, with these seniors who have dementia and long-term care needs that are currently inappropriately housed. What kinds of short-term solutions might the government be able to offer these seniors?
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Question 25-18(2): Seniors’ Housing Shortages
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Glen Abernethy
Great Slave
We do have the Territorial Admissions Committee that actually helps us in focusing and prioritizing individuals, so individuals with higher needs can move up the list, but as I have indicated, we have a significant shortage of beds. Currently, I believe we're about 60 beds short here in the Northwest Territories, and that will be part of the 259 that we're going to be short by 2026. We're working with CAP, we're working with Avens on coming up with some solutions in the short-term for Yellowknife. But this isn't just a Yellowknife problem.
We've got problems in the Beaufort Delta where we have our residents in acute care units rather than long-term care units, which isn't desirable at all. We're looking at putting together a plan, working with committee for some short-, medium- and long-term wins. I don't necessarily know what all those solutions are at this point, but I really do look forward to having a sit-down with committee, and as I said, I am drafting the letter to send to them to share the report and to have initial discussions on how we can move together to address this oncoming problem.
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Question 25-18(2): Seniors’ Housing Shortages
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Julie Green
Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Minister. Now, there was going to be money set aside from an athletes’ village for the Canada Winter Games, which is likely not going to be needed because the bid won't take place. Is it possible to use that money and multiply it with federal money in order to provide an additional $24 million to go into seniors’ care?
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Question 25-18(2): Seniors’ Housing Shortages
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Glen Abernethy
Great Slave
No official dollars are actually allocated. We had committed as a government in the 17th Assembly, and I know the Minister today is also committed to working with the Assembly to find the dollars to support the Canada Winter Games bid. We were going to find those dollars, but no official dollars have actually been allocated into our budget. I can say that the federal government has announced they're going to invest in social infrastructure and I had an opportunity to meet with the Minister responsible, and we talked about some of the needs that we have in the Northwest Territories.
Seniors' housing was one of the issues that we raised with them, and it's also one of the pillars that were identified. We don't have a lot of detail on how those social infrastructure dollars are going to be spent or what the criteria are, but we are working closely with the federal government so that they can inform us so that we can apply for it accordingly. But as I said, we're looking for pretty much any avenue we can to find a way to meet our needs and we do need to think outside the box on this one. We're going to have to seek partners in every area to help us meet this 259-bed shortage by 2026.
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The Speaker
Jackson Lafferty
Mahsi. Oral questions. Member for Yellowknife Centre .
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Julie Green
Yellowknife Centre
Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Will the Minister look at the possibility of a P3 arrangement to provide this kind of care for seniors? Thank you. Mahsi.
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Question 25-18(2): Seniors’ Housing Shortages
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The Speaker
Jackson Lafferty
I’d like to remind Members that they direct the questions through the Speaker, please. Mahsi. Minister responsible for Seniors .
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Question 25-18(2): Seniors’ Housing Shortages
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Glen Abernethy
Great Slave
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we need to look for any avenue to help us. Traditional procurement might be appropriate in some communities and regions; it may not be in others. Our minds need to be open to pretty much any option. The federal government is a potential other partner. In the previous government, I'd been asked whether or not we would be supportive of private businesses coming in and setting up long-term care facilities. This is something that we're supportive of. There's no reason somebody couldn't come in and start up a long-term care facility if they wanted.
At the same time, we need to make sure that we have a plan and a system to put and support 259 beds in the Northwest Territories by 2026, which isn't a long time, and the demand is increasing daily. This is a significant amount of work and I, once again, am looking forward to working with committee and sharing the report with them so that we can begin those important discussions. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. MR. SPEAKER
: Mahsi. Oral questions. Member for Yellowknife North , Mr. Vanthuyne .
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Question 26-18(2): Thaidene Nene National Park
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Cory Vanthuyne
Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Before my questions, just in the event of support and a small glimmer of hope, today I wear my Canada Winter Games pin here, just so we know.
---Laughter
Mr. Speaker, through you, my questions today are for the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources . During campaigning, many residents raised the issue of the Thaidene Nene National Park. While most were supportive of this development, some were confused with the overall structure of the park. From what I have learned recently, part of the area will be a national park under federal control, with others being under territorial control. I'm wondering if the Minister can give us a little more detail on what is planned for this important and beautiful area of the NWT? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Question 26-18(2): Thaidene Nene National Park
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Jackson Lafferty
Mahsi. Minister of Environment and Natural Resources .
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Question 26-18(2): Thaidene Nene National Park
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Wally Schumann
Hay River South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to thank the Member for the question. The Member is right: This is an important and extremely beautiful part of the Northwest Territories, truly an area worth protecting for the current and future generations of people of the Northwest Territories and Canada. The GNWT has worked collaboratively towards that goal of protection with Aboriginal governments, Parks Canada, and other stakeholders.
Our aim was to develop the made-in-the-NWT solution that gave us the exposure and investment associated with the federal and national park, while at the same time allowing us to use our legislative and regulatory instruments, policies and strategies, et cetera -- for example, northern tools -- to achieve northern land management objectives. The concept of northern tools is not new. It comes from Land Use Sustainability Framework finalized during the 17th Assembly. That document outlined a vision for land use in the NWT, and I would invite all Members to review this important and well-crafted document.
We’ve come a long way in a short time on our first rollout of northern tools, but much work remains. I will be looking for the support of the Assembly to continue that work and to help realize our goal in protecting this important area.
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Cory Vanthuyne
Yellowknife North
I thank the Minister for his reply. I have heard from numerous constituents that they are concerned about accessing the area after a park is created. Can the Minister provide us some details around access issues? I'm thinking specifically about whether there will be a fee for residents to access either federally or territorially controlled areas and/or if there will be other restrictions placed on residents entering the area once the park is created.
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Wally Schumann
Hay River South
There may very be well a nominal fee for park access, but we are in the early days on this issue. I can say that we intend to work with Parks Canada to ensure that the experience for park users is seamless, so that people can move between the territorial and federal portions without really knowing that they are doing so.
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Cory Vanthuyne
Yellowknife North
We often say that the North is unique, and that is true in many respects, Mr. Speaker. For example, parks in the north are large, open and undisturbed areas where wildlife roams free in their natural habitat. As a result of our uniqueness, some of the rules used in national parks may not be appropriate for the NWT. Has that been taken into consideration by the department as this initiative has advanced and, if so, can the Minister elaborate?
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Wally Schumann
Hay River South
Absolutely. These items have been and will continue to be taken into account as we move forward. A good example of this is we use the firearms for personal protection. We need to make sure we consider our unique northern context when we approach such issues. Our northern tools approach offers us that flexibility. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Question 26-18(2): Thaidene Nene National Park
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Jackson Lafferty
Mahsi. Oral questions. Member for Yellowknife North .
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Cory Vanthuyne
Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and
lastly, I asked earlier about what limitations this new park might have on residents. I'm wondering if the Minister can expand on his response and provide more detail on what limitations, if any, this new park will have on industry.
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Wally Schumann
Hay River South
I want to be clear, there will be areas where industrial activities will not be permitted within the park. Our research, however, has helped to ensure that areas of high mineral potential have been excluded and it will allow some industrial activities to take place. This too is part of the balance approach offered by northern tools. Beyond this the possibility, more importantly, the creation of this area also allows us to diversify the economy by opening up an entirely new industry, the conservation economy, with focus on tourism and recreational activities.
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Question 26-18(2): Thaidene Nene National Park
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Jackson Lafferty
Mahsi. Oral questions. Member for Nunakput .
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Question 27-18(2): Tuktoyaktuk Shoreline Erosion
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Herbert Nakimayak
Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are for the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs . Shoreline erosion has been affecting the community of Tuktoyaktuk for some time. Mr. Speaker, my question is how long has the department been aware of this issue? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Question 27-18(2): Tuktoyaktuk Shoreline Erosion
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Jackson Lafferty
Mahsi. The Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs .
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Question 27-18(2): Tuktoyaktuk Shoreline Erosion
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Robert C. McLeod
Inuvik Twin Lakes
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Hamlet of Tuktoyaktuk completed a shoreline protection study in 1994 and they said at the time that their preferred recommendation was to relocate infrastructure currently on the peninsula. From 2007 to 2015, the Hamlet has had a shoreline erosion project on their capital plan. However, I understand in the 2016 capital plan they've removed the use of CPI funding for this and instead are seeking to try to obtain some federal funding or other forms of funding to help deal with the issue. Thank you.
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Herbert Nakimayak
Nunakput
My second question is what options are available to the Hamlet of Tuktoyaktuk to help them address the issues of shoreline erosion?
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Question 27-18(2): Tuktoyaktuk Shoreline Erosion
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Robert C. McLeod
Inuvik Twin Lakes
Community governments have the authority and the control to make decisions about infrastructure in their community. The Hamlet of Tuktoyaktuk is responsible for developing and implementing a multi-year capital development plan on how to fund capital projects. Through the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs, we provide regular support to communities should they seek our advice on some of the projects that they have in mind.
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Herbert Nakimayak
Nunakput
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Question 27-18(2): Tuktoyaktuk Shoreline Erosion
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Robert C. McLeod
Inuvik Twin Lakes
In April 2015, Public Safety Canada launched the National Disaster Mitigation Program, and it does offer some cost sharing, funding, to support national disaster mitigation projects. We would have to work with them to see if this particular project falls under that program, and what the funding sources and funding levels are like. Like many of the programs with the federal government, there's a cost-sharing component to it, so we would have to work with the community of Tuktoyaktuk and the federal government to identify different types of funding that might be available to the community should they decide to pursue this.
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Jackson Lafferty
Mahsi. Oral questions. Member for Nunakput .
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Question 27-18(2): Tuktoyaktuk Shoreline Erosion
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Herbert Nakimayak
Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, what other types of funding and support from the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs are available to support Tuktoyaktuk if they want to address shoreline erosion? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Question 27-18(2): Tuktoyaktuk Shoreline Erosion
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Robert C. McLeod
Inuvik Twin Lakes
I spoke briefly to the National Disaster Mitigation Plan. Again, we will explore the options there. The Hamlet also receives $899,000 annually in funding through the Community Public Infrastructure Program from the department. As well, a project dealing with shoreline erosion would be considered eligible for one-time funding in the amount of $789,000 through the Building Canada Small Communities Fund. The hamlet has chosen to utilize its funding on another project in the community.
Again, the support that they would get from the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs is that we'd be pleased to go in there at the community's request, work with them on planning for this and identifying any types of funding that are out there. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Jackson Lafferty
Mahsi. Oral questions. Member for Mackenzie Delta .
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Question 28-18(2): Fort Mcpherson Elders’ Home Care Facility
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Frederick Blake Jr.
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have a follow up to my Member's statement. I have questions for the Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation. I'd like to ask the Minister: How was the location for this new facility in Fort McPherson selected and was the community involved?
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Question 28-18(2): Fort Mcpherson Elders’ Home Care Facility
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Jackson Lafferty
Mahsi. The Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation, Ms. Cochrane .
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Question 28-18(2): Fort Mcpherson Elders’ Home Care Facility
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Caroline Cochrane
Range Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The selection for the seniors' facility was done in June 2013. We met the Fort McPherson Hamlet Council during their meeting to discuss the building and the location. In July 2013, we met with the Gwich'in Tribal Council and provided information on the building. In September 2013, we had a community consultation in the community. The location of the building was discussed at that point as well. December 2013 was the only time that we had an issue brought forward that talked about the location and we were asked if we could move it to the river.
At that time, we looked at it and we realized that the lot was too small and also, we were using that building for market housing, so we didn't want to tear it down too, which would mean more housing needs in the community. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Frederick Blake Jr.
Mackenzie Delta
I'd like to ask the Minister: What problems are causing the construction of the elders' facility to be delayed?
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Question 28-18(2): Fort Mcpherson Elders’ Home Care Facility
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Caroline Cochrane
Range Lake
We had a couple of problems, actually, with the starting of it. We negotiated with the contractor in 2015 and this summer, he started working on it. He installed 11 piles in July, but we didn't have our geotechnical inspector on-site so we stopped work on that project. We need to have the proper regulators watching when they're doing the construction. As the MLA had stated earlier there were also some water issues and we are working with the contractor. Now we’re back on track and the building will be completed within this fiscal year.
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Question 28-18(2): Fort Mcpherson Elders’ Home Care Facility
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Frederick Blake Jr.
Mackenzie Delta
When can the people of Fort McPherson expect the work on this facility to be completed?
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Question 28-18(2): Fort Mcpherson Elders’ Home Care Facility
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Caroline Cochrane
Range Lake
November 2016.
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Question 28-18(2): Fort Mcpherson Elders’ Home Care Facility
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Frederick Blake Jr.
Mackenzie Delta
That sounds great. Hopefully we have no other issues and if we do I'll have more questions for the Minister later. ---Laughter
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Question 28-18(2): Fort Mcpherson Elders’ Home Care Facility
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The Speaker
Jackson Lafferty
Mahsi. Oral questions. Member for Nahendeh .
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Question 29-18(2): Fiscal Responsibility And Transparency
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Shane Thompson
Nahendeh
Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to follow up on my Member's statement with questions to the Minister of Finance . Can the Minister of Finance explain what he means by working together to make these hard decisions? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Question 29-18(2): Fiscal Responsibility And Transparency
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The Speaker
Jackson Lafferty
Mahsi. Honourable Minister of Finance .
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Question 29-18(2): Fiscal Responsibility And Transparency
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Inuvik Twin Lakes
Robert C. McLeod
Minister of Finance
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we have a process in the Legislative Assembly that we go through where we appear before a committee with our business planning process outlining some of the challenges we're facing and then we get feedback from committee, and we will develop our main estimates that we will debate in the May/June budget session. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Question 29-18(2): Fiscal Responsibility And Transparency
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Shane Thompson
Nahendeh
Can the Minister please provide us with a picture of who was involved in coming up with these ideas for cuts, reductions, and revenue options?
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Question 29-18(2): Fiscal Responsibility And Transparency
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Inuvik Twin Lakes
Robert C. McLeod
Minister of Finance
Mr. Speaker, we have tasked our senior officials with providing us with some options to have a look at the workings of each department within the Government of Northwest Territories and we will work with committee. I have committed to the Priorities and Planning Committee that I would have a discussion with them again and that we will go through the business plan planning exercise. We will get more feedback from Committee as to how we are going to deal with the situation that's facing us, and then we will develop our main estimates that we will table in May/June. I must emphasize, Mr.
Speaker, that we are still spending approximately $1.7 billion in our budget for the people for the people of Northwest Territories.
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Question 29-18(2): Fiscal Responsibility And Transparency
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Shane Thompson
Nahendeh
I’d like to thank the Minister for his answer. Can the Minister of Finance please tell us how the frontline public servants have been involved in providing recommendations to this government?
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Question 29-18(2): Fiscal Responsibility And Transparency
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Inuvik Twin Lakes
Robert C. McLeod
Minister of Finance
Mr. Speaker, again, we have tasked our senior officials, our deputies, with finding some options and bring forward to Cabinet that we can in turn share with committee. As part of that process, they would talk to all those in their department right down to the regional level as to some of the recommendations that they may have as to how we can address some of the challenges that are facing us. I'm sure there's a process that goes down and then they report back to the deputies who in turn would come forward to this Cabinet with some options and we would share them with committee and get their feedback as well.
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Question 29-18(2): Fiscal Responsibility And Transparency
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The Speaker
Jackson Lafferty
Mahsi. Oral questions. Member for Nahendeh .
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Question 29-18(2): Fiscal Responsibility And Transparency
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Shane Thompson
Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I thank the Minister for his answer. Is there any way that you can provide the Regular Members with a flowchart or how this message was relayed to the public servants, and if there's a way that the public servants are encouraged to provide this information? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Question 29-18(2): Fiscal Responsibility And Transparency
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Inuvik Twin Lakes
Robert C. McLeod
Minister of Finance
There has been no decisions made yet, but I take the Member's point. We will have a discussion with all those involved because this would have far-reaching implications across the Northwest Territories, at the same time we need to make sure that we live within our means. It's prudent on us as government to seek input from all those involved across the Northwest Territories and we commit to doing that, and I've committed to the committee that I would find some time with them during this particular session and give them an update as to the work that we're doing.
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Question 29-18(2): Fiscal Responsibility And Transparency
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The Speaker
Jackson Lafferty
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Question 30-18(2): Sahtu Regional Health Centre
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Daniel McNeely
Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I had mentioned here earlier in my Member’s statement, my question to the Minister of Health and Social Services about the newly constructed, still underway, facility in Norman Wells providing a modern medical care system to the residents of the whole area. It's the first of its kind in the area to also provide long-term care units and availability to 18 seniors in our community and our area. Taking into account a building of such, there's a transitional phase that would take place prior to the building being functional and ready to provide that service. I'm asking the Minister if I can get a copy of the transitional plan. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Question 30-18(2): Sahtu Regional Health Centre
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Jackson Lafferty
Mahsi. Minister of Health and Social Services .
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Question 30-18(2): Sahtu Regional Health Centre
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Glen Abernethy
Great Slave
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, within the budget there are actually some dollars allocated for the transition from the old facility into the new facility. It's about $200,000. Our intention is to develop a transition plan, but we do have a bit of time. This facility doesn't open until tentatively March 2017, so the transition plan hasn't been fully formed. Once it’s done, I'm happy to share it with the Member. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Question 30-18(2): Sahtu Regional Health Centre
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Daniel McNeely
Sahtu
In that case, my next question, Mr. Speaker, is to seek who is actually holding the transition plan. When I talked to the CEO in Norman Wells, she says they're moving in in November. So actually, which is it?
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Question 30-18(2): Sahtu Regional Health Centre
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Glen Abernethy
Great Slave
I’d need to confirm. The information I'm familiar with suggests that we will take ownership of that building in March 2017, at which point we will start moving into an official opening of the building. I don't believe a date has been determined, but I will talk to the CEO to see which date she is working on.
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Question 30-18(2): Sahtu Regional Health Centre
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Daniel McNeely
Sahtu
My next question to the Minister is: If there is going to be a transitional plan for a portion of the department moving into the building this coming November, can the Minister provide the documentation to discuss some of the logistics and staffing that would be eventually included in the transitional plan?
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Question 30-18(2): Sahtu Regional Health Centre
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Glen Abernethy
Great Slave
Some initial work was done identifying the types of positions that would be required in that new facility as a result of it taking a new function in the Sahtu. The 18 long-term care beds was something that didn't exist in the region before. I'm happy to share the information that we have as we develop a transition report. I'm happy to have a sit-down with the Member and bring him up to speed on what's happening in that region. I do believe we have a bit of time. It's my understanding, as I indicated, that we're not taking ownership of that building until March 31, 2017, so we still have a bit of time.
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Question 30-18(2): Sahtu Regional Health Centre
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Daniel McNeely
Sahtu
I welcome the Minister's invitation and look forward to our further dialogue and meeting on that.
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Question 30-18(2): Sahtu Regional Health Centre
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The Speaker
Jackson Lafferty
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Question 31-18(2): Addressing Small Community Homelessness
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Michael Nadli
Deh Cho
Mr. Speaker, my question is to the Minister responsible for Homelessness . The question is in regards to the conflicting figures that sometimes we use. The point is that homeless people are just not numbers. They are actually people, so my question is to the Minister: what steps is the Minister taking to correct the conflicting figures in terms of homelessness and to try to get a true picture, especially as it relates to engaging our federal colleagues in regard to funding on housing and homelessness. Mahsi
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Question 31-18(2): Addressing Small Community Homelessness
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Jackson Lafferty
Mahsi. The Minister responsible for Homelessness .
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Question 31-18(2): Addressing Small Community Homelessness
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Caroline Cochrane
Range Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To actually get an accurate count on homelessness is something that is a huge challenge, because you can just look at the shelters. You can get numbers from there. You can actually get numbers from the RCMP, but there is a whole population of hidden homelessness that is unmanageable or unrealistic to be able to count, and those include people that are youth, that are sleeping on couches, a lot of families sharing accommodations. Unless people identify as being homeless, then it's really hard to get those numbers. To get an accurate figure, I'm afraid that that would be a real challenge. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Question 31-18(2): Addressing Small Community Homelessness
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Michael Nadli
Deh Cho
I’d like to thank the Minister for her reply. Three out of 27 communities are part of the Northern Pathway to Housing. Is the department contemplating expanding the plans to include all of the communities in the NWT, and at what point?
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Question 31-18(2): Addressing Small Community Homelessness
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Caroline Cochrane
Range Lake
At this point, yes, the Northern Pathways to Housing is putting in seniors' facilities into Behchoko, Fort Simpson, and Aklavik. Actually, Fort Providence is the next community on the table. I can't guarantee whether they will be able to put homeless shelters into every community, but we will be looking at putting a homeless shelter into every region. That would be the goal at this point.
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Question 31-18(2): Addressing Small Community Homelessness
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Michael Nadli
Deh Cho
I would like to thank once again the Minister had indicated that it's actually unrealistic for us to come up with a true figure for homelessness. We've seen other jurisdictions across Canada, including the city of Medicine Hat, that set out a goal to eradicate homelessness, and they are pretty close to that reality. Is it the goal of this government to eventually eradicate homeless in NWT?
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Question 31-18(2): Addressing Small Community Homelessness
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Caroline Cochrane
Range Lake
I am certain that it would be the goal of the GNWT to eradicate homelessness and to provide housing for every person in the Territories. However, would that goal be realistic would be the other problem to do. This will take time. It took a lot of time to get here. It's going to take a lot of time to fix. We are hoping that the federal government will follow through on its promise to invest in social infrastructure funding, though.
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Question 31-18(2): Addressing Small Community Homelessness
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The Speaker
Jackson Lafferty
Mahsi. Oral questions. The honourable Member for Frame Lake .
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