Debates of June 8th, 2016

This is page numbers 455-492 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was communities .

Topics

Oral Questions

Members Present

Prayer

Minister’s Statements 41-18(2): Energy Initiatives Of Public Works And Services

Minister’s Statement 42-18(2): Update On The Northwest Territories Power Corporation

Minister’s Statement 43-18(2): Northwest Territories Climate Change Strategic Framework

Minister’s Statement 44-18(2): Development Of The NWT Energy Plan

Need For Suitable, Adequate And Affordable Housing

Impact Of Migration On Homelessness In Yellowknife

Community Housing Development Plans

Addressing The Need For Affordable Rental Units

Self-Government Initiatives In The Sahtu

Employment Opportunities Relating To Housing Construction

Territorial Housing Issues

Economic Solutions To Reduce Need For Subsidized Housing

Ulukhaktok Arena Closure

Congratulations To Echo Dene School Graduates

Midwifery Services In The Northwest Territories

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Construction

Schedule For Charles Tetcho School In Trout Lake

Northwest Territories Housing Corporation Communications Strategy

Improvements To Housing Corporation

Supporting Housing First Clients

Implementing The Deline Community Self-Government Agreement

Reducing The Need For Emergency Shelter Services

Costs Associated With Modular Homes

Midwifery Services

Responsibilities Associated With First Nations Housing

Ulukhaktok Arena Remediation

Replies to Budget Address

Tabled Document 56-18(2): Report Of The Northwest Territories Judicial Remuneration Commission 2016

Tabled Document 57-18(2): Northwest Territories State Of The Environment Report Highlights 2016

Tabled Document 58-18(2): North Slave Resiliency Study Final Report

Consideration in Committee of the Whole on Bills and Other Matters

Motion 30‑18(2): Tabled Document 50‑18(2) Main Estimates 2016‑2017 Environment And Natural Resources, Corporate Management Operations Expenditures (Pg. 87) Reinstatement Of Funding For Public Education Coordinator In Field Support Unit

Report of Committee of the Whole

Orders of the Day

Members Present

Hon. Glen Abernethy , Mr. Beaulieu , Mr. Blake , Hon. Caroline Cochrane , Ms. Julie Green , Hon. Jackson Lafferty , Hon. Bob McLeod , Hon. Robert McLeod , Mr. McNeely , Hon. Alfred Moses , Mr. Nadli , Mr. Nakimayak , Mr. O’Reilly, Hon. Wally Schumann , Hon. Louis Sebert , Mr. Simpson , Mr. Testart , Mr. Thompson , Mr. Vanthuyne

The House met at 1:30 p.m.

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Prayer

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The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Good afternoon, Colleagues. Ministers' statements. Minister of Public Works and Services .

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Minister’s Statements 41-18(2): Energy Initiatives Of Public Works And Services

Ministers’ Statements

Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it has been just over one year since the Government of the Northwest Territories’ energy functions were consolidated in the Department of Public Works and Services. Today I would like to update Members on some of the work that this division is doing. The Government of the Northwest Territories has made commitments in its mandate to improve access to energy efficient products and to investigate and implement renewable and alternative energy solutions.

Public Works and Services efforts in this area included the installation of energy efficient LED streetlights in communities across the NWT in partnership with the Northwest Territories Power Corporation, and the completion of solar projects in Fort Liard, Fort Simpson, Colville Lake, and Wrigley. The department also undertook wind monitoring and project feasibility work for a potential wind development in Inuvik. Building on the success with liquefied natural gas in Inuvik, we have also done feasibility work of using LNG in Fort Simpson.

Since 2014, the Inuvik LNG installation has saved NTPC $1.7 million in fuel costs.

Mr. Speaker, making better use of our existing hydroelectric resources is another one of the commitments in the Government of the Northwest Territories mandate. Our commitment includes exploring options to respond to low water in the North Slave system, which we have done with the recently completed North Slave resiliency study.

As a result of record low water levels experienced in the North Slave hydro system, Public Works and Services engaged Manitoba Hydro International to review our system and provide recommendations on how best to manage low water conditions. The study established that we can expect hydro generated electricity to be available about 90 per cent of the time for at least the next 20 years. It also found that without a new large industrial power customer, such as a mine, alternative generation such as wind or solar, would go unused most of the time and would add unnecessary expenses to customers’ bills through the rate increases.

Recommendations in this study include improving hydrology monitoring on the North Slave hydro system, examining options for aging infrastructure and to consider options to offset rate shock caused by low water, such as a low water fund. Over the coming year, Public Works and Services will work with other departments and agencies to implement these recommendations. The department also continued to deliver those energy products and programs which have proven successful year over year. These include:

● Installing six biomass boiler installations, bringing the total of Government of the Northwest Territories wood pellet boiler projects to 28; and

● Completion of 26 energy efficiency projects on various government facilities throughout the NWT which will reduce the equivalent of 8,800 tonnes of greenhouse gas emissions and save the government $267,000 each year.

Mr. Speaker, the implementation of the Capital Asset Retrofit Program in 2007, energy conservation and efficiency improvements, and the adoption of biomass heating technology for many of our facilities, has resulted in annual savings of $1.8 million.

It is anticipated that in the coming year, annual savings will exceed $2 million and annual greenhouse gas reductions will exceed 10,000 tonnes.Looking ahead, the Department of Public Works and Services will direct $3.8 million in the coming year to energy retrofits and alternative energy products, including LED lighting, building retrofits, biomass, and solar across the NWT. As well, five biomass boilers are included in the new construction projects across the NWT including the Stanton Territorial Hospital.

In response to our mandate commitment to increase incentives and improve access to energy efficient products, the department will continue to work closely with and support the work of the Arctic Energy Alliance. The department will provide $3.5 million in funding to the alliance this year to ensure that residents, businesses and community governments can access the services and incentives that will help them manage their own energy use.

We plan to build on all of these successes by developing a long-term vision for energy through a new energy plan, which will address affordability, reliability, environmental impacts and the economic development potential of energy within the Northwest Territories. Today, I will table the 2015-16 Energy Conservation Initiatives Report.

This annual report outlines how the Department of Public Works and Services is meeting our government’s mandate priorities in the areas of energy efficiency, alternative and renewable energy use, and support to residents to invest in and to adopt energy practices aimed at reducing the cost of living and mitigating the impacts of our energy use on the environment. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Ministers' statements. Minister of NWT Power Corporation.

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Minister’s Statement 42-18(2): Update On The Northwest Territories Power Corporation

Ministers’ Statements

Louis Sebert

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, I would like to provide Members with an update on recent changes made with respect to the Northwest Territories Power Corporation. On May 24, 2016, I appointed six deputy ministers to the board of the corporation. The reasons for taking this action have been documented in the media, but I would like to briefly reiterate these reasons and provide Members and the public with some information on next steps.

First, and most importantly, this change to the board of directors will save rate payers $1 million per year. In the face of continued cost pressures, power rates for consumers have also continued to rise. Four years of rate increases have been followed by an application from the corporation for further rate increases of 4.8 per cent this year followed by four per cent in 2017-18 and four per cent in 2018-19. Retaining the previous board would have meant even larger rate increases for NWT consumers and this was one way the government could cut costs.

As well, it should be noted that the nature of the corporation and its relationship with the government is changing. It has been the recipient of substantial GNWT subsidies in recent years. The Auditor General has recognized these changes and directed that the corporation be reclassified from a government business enterprise to an other government organization. The corporation must now adhere to public sector accounting standards. Given these changes, I believe it is time that the GNWT consider the most appropriate future governance model for the corporation.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to take this opportunity to thank the former board for their service and to emphasize that this change was in no way related to the performance of the board.

I would also like to underscore the corporation is a valuable and critical partner in our territory’s efforts to reduce the use of diesel and develop renewable and alternative forms of energy. When one of the Ikhil gas wells in Inuvik watered out, the corporation’s timely use of liquefied natural gas resulted in savings of $1.7 million since 2014. The development of the cutting edge Colville Lake solar-diesel-battery hybrid system opened last month was also led by the corporation. These are just two examples of the corporation’s leadership in developing alternative energy for the NWT. Mr.

Speaker, the new board is in place and operating. As Minister, I intend to issue direction to the board to continue to look at ways to further mitigate rising electricity costs. They will review the responsibilities of the board as reflected in current legislation and guidelines; develop options regarding the future governance model for the Corporation; and develop an accountability framework that considers greater accountability to all Members of the Legislative Assembly.Mr. Speaker, this work will feed into the development of a new energy plan, one of the commitments in the GNWT mandate.

This plan will present a long-term vision for our approach to energy in the Northwest Territories and the role of the corporation will be a critical piece of this vision. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Ministers' statements. Minister of Environmental and Natural Resources.

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Minister’s Statement 43-18(2): Northwest Territories Climate Change Strategic Framework

Ministers’ Statements

Wally Schumann

Hay River South

Mr. Speaker, climate change continues to be one of the most serious environmental, economic, and political challenges of our time and it is an important issue to the residents of the Northwest Territories. In the mandate, the Government of the Northwest Territories, or GNWT, has committed to develop a territorial climate change strategy that takes northern energy demands and the cost of living into account. It will reflect commitments to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and explore carbon pricing systems and how to capture local alternatives such as hydro, biomass, wind, and solar.

Work to develop that strategy has begun, led by the Department of Environment and Natural Resources, in collaboration with GNWT departments and other organizations. In 1998, the GNWT recognized the need to make an appropriate contribution to reducing greenhouse gas emissions and commit to working with the federal and provincial governments to reduce Canada’s emissions. The first step towards this commitment was the release of the first Northwest Territories Greenhouse Gas Strategy in 2001.

The focus of that strategy identified the need to coordinate our actions to begin to control greenhouse gas emissions and make sure a northern perspective was part of Canada’s national climate change implementation strategy. The most recent strategy, in effect from 2011 to 2015, identified actions that the GNWT, industry and communities could take to stabilize territorial emissions to at or below 2005 levels. Actions in this strategy have been closely linked with actions implemented under the Northwest Territories Energy Plan.

Mr. Speaker, we know these actions must continue to be linked to other GNWT strategies and plans. Like other jurisdictions around the globe, the Northwest Territories is faced with the need to transform our economy so it will reduce dependency on fossil fuels. Risks to economic, social, and cultural values in our communities will intensify if climate change continues to affect our ability to maintain our traditional pursuits and lifestyle.

Melting permafrost requires more maintenance to our infrastructure and changes to our construction practices to ensure new infrastructure is more resilient to the effects of climate change. Winter roads are hard to maintain and travelling on the land is becoming more difficult and sometimes dangerous. Forest fire regimes are changing and there are shifts in plant and animal habitats and distribution.

Last December, the nations of the world met in Paris and adopted a new global agreement to address climate change. The Northwest Territories, which had just had an election, was represented by a delegation of senior officials. In March 2016, Prime Minister Trudeau invited the Premiers of Canada to a First Ministers Meeting and Premier Bob McLeod joined them for this important discussion. This meeting resulted in the Vancouver Declaration. The declaration recognizes that all provinces, territories and the federal government are responsible for taking action on climate change.

The declaration also set in place an agreement among governments to develop a pan-Canadian framework for clean growth and to address climate change. First Ministers committed to transition to a low carbon economy by adopting a broad range of domestic measures, including consideration of carbon pricing mechanisms, adapted to each province's and territory's specific circumstances, in particular the realities of Canada's Indigenous peoples and Arctic and sub-Arctic regions.

Four federal-provincial-territorial working groups were established to begin implementation work and the Northwest Territories is participating in all four groups. The report to the working group will be made public in September and provided to the First Ministers in October.

Mr. Speaker, we know this is an important issue in the Northwest Territories. We will be engaging with MLAs, Aboriginal governments, stakeholders, and NWT residents to hear their views and gather input on a Northwest Territories Climate Change Strategic Framework and the pan-Canadian framework. I expect to announce plans on this engagement shortly. I look forward to hearing Members’ thoughts on the best approach to this important issue. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister’s Statement 43-18(2): Northwest Territories Climate Change Strategic Framework

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

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Minister’s Statement 44-18(2): Development Of The NWT Energy Plan

Ministers’ Statements

Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, the Government of the Northwest Territories has made a commitment in its mandate to create a new three-year Energy Action Plan, building on previous investments made over the past three years and the outcomes of the energy plan review. As you have heard from the Minister of Public Works and Services , the Government of the Northwest Territories has accomplished a great deal in the areas of energy conservation and efficiency, and in implementing alternative and renewable energy solutions in recent years.

The NWT is an acknowledged leader in installed biomass heating and ranks second in the country in installed solar capacity per person. We have completed innovative projects, such as the Colville Lake solar-battery-diesel project, which has already resulted in periods where the community has operated without running its generators. As reflected in the proposed budget this year, we are working to advance the development of a wind turbine project in Inuvik, as well as an innovative project to install solar in combination with a variable speed generator in Aklavik.

We plan to continue this success by developing a vision for energy that addresses affordability, reliability, environmental impacts, and the economic development potential of energy in the Northwest Territories. This plan will consider the future approach to the electricity system and the governance of the Northwest Territories Power Corporation. The plan will also consider how to expand the use of alternative and renewable energy, such as wind, solar, biomass, geothermal, and hydroelectricity development, as well as address the heating and transportation sectors.

We will start developing this new energy plan by releasing a public discussion document in July that will outline our proposed approach. Over the summer and fall, we will be asking the public, community and Aboriginal governments, other stakeholders, and Members of the Legislative Assembly for their views on our proposed approach. The government intends to table a new energy plan early in 2017.

This energy plan will clearly be linked to the Climate Change Strategic Framework. The framework will address a span of actions from adaptation to the impacts of climate change to mitigating the impacts of our energy use on the environment. Mitigating the impacts of our energy use means continued growth and the use of local and renewable sources of energy in our communities, actions that will be detailed in the energy plan. Opportunities for joint discussions with communities will be coordinated and I encourage all residents to participate in the development of the strategic framework and the energy plan.

With your help, we can ensure that we have a supply of secure, affordable, and sustainable energy that meets the needs of current and future generations. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Member for Yellowknife North .

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Need For Suitable, Adequate And Affordable Housing

Members’ Statements

Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Mr. Speaker, yesterday I was pleased to hear the Minister of NWT Housing Corporation's announcement about the construction of nine-unit seniors' buildings in five communities. This is welcome news; however, suitable, adequate, and affordable housing remains in short supply. Housing in Canada is measured by three criteria. Suitable housing has the appropriate number of bedrooms for occupants. Adequate housing has working plumbing and does not need major repairs. Affordable housing costs less than 30 per cent of household income.

A dwelling is considered to be in core need if it doesn't meet one of these conditions and the household income is below the core-need income threshold. In 2014, 32 per cent of all NWT households had some sort of housing problem and 20 per cent in core need.

There are many complex challenges associated with providing quality housing in the North. Waiting lists for public housing are long. Inadequate supply leads to serious, chronic over-crowding. Social housing clients complain of unfair eligibility assessments. When clients do get housing the units are often in disrepair. Sadly, many public housing clients also need other forms of social assistance, such as support for addiction and mental health problems, so homeownership and maintenance is a very difficult goal to reach.

Mr. Speaker, later today, I will have questions for the Minister of the NWT Housing Corporation. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Need For Suitable, Adequate And Affordable Housing

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Jackson Lafferty

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Impact Of Migration On Homelessness In Yellowknife

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Speaker, we have heard debate this week about possible solutions to homelessness in Yellowknife and how they are going to be paid for. I welcome the announcement by the Minister responsible for Homelessness of additional money for homelessness initiatives both for semi-independent units located within existing shelters and independent units under the Housing First model. Either way, more people who are now homeless will be housed and that's the goal here. I want to talk about expectations Yellowknifers may have about making homelessness go away. It's not going to go away.

This new investment will give people who are now homeless options to obtain housing. This is strictly voluntary. If they don't want housing, they don't have to have it. If they want to live outside or couch surf and continue sleeping at emergency shelters, that is their choice. I expect a good uptake on the new housing options, in the range of 80 per cent, according to City research, but not everyone will want to participate. The other reason homelessness is not going to go away is because of migration from the communities to Yellowknife.

Any of my colleagues here in this House could walk downtown and identify constituents who are homeless here. A major driver of migration is the inadequacy of housing available in the small communities. People come here because there is more housing here, whether shelters, transitional housing, public housing, or market rentals.

Another driver of migration is access to services that are only offered in Yellowknife, such as specialized medical treatment or greater support for disabled children. Other reasons people come, in no particular order: to take a job, to be reunited with family members, and to have easier access to alcohol. No surprises there. Migration seems to be increasing, Mr. Speaker, at least anecdotally, and more migrants are homeless.

As the City of Yellowknife has reported, "the costs of this demographic shift, including intrinsic costs, are borne by the City." That's in spite of the fact they have no mandate or budget for this burden, except for federal government Housing First money. There is no question that, again quoting from the report, "there are insufficient resources for housing and health services for those migrating from other communities." Mr. Speaker, I request consent to conclude my statement. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Unanimous consent granted

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Impact Of Migration On Homelessness In Yellowknife

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, colleagues. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The federal and territorial governments are set to reverse this trend by funding additional housing for people who are homeless. This is good news for the many people waiting for homes, for the City of Yellowknife, and for Yellowknife residents. This collaboration is the way forward for finding real solutions to this long-term problem. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Community Housing Development Plans

Members’ Statements

Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Marci cho

. Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, everybody's talking about the houses on this side here with the Housing Minister . We're going to be asking the Minister of Housing . I too will continue with the NWT Housing Corporation. Mr. Speaker, the NWT Housing Corporation has the ability to touch on every aspect of our mandate. It can impact the economy by providing communities with local housing projects that will see five or six people in the communities trained and working on renovating homes. These projects can also look at employing the 18 to 30 year-old group as youth employment rates are very low.

We all know that having employment and a good house goes a long way to addressing the wellbeing of communities and its people. In other words, employ people and put them in good housing, you'll have healthier populations than people without jobs and in poor housing. Mr. Speaker, even in the area of governance, when you show the people in our communities that we care enough to make sure our citizens are living in suitable and adequate homes, we will see that leadership becomes a lot easier to deal with.

A chief told me that, when we signed on to a devolution agreement, he thought the government was going to be a partner moving forward. He said, "that is not what has happened." Mr. Speaker, the communities look at the government in the holistic sense and not department by department. It is important that we know that. I think the NWT Housing Corporation could do very well with the communities by developing good communication and it also can work with each community in developing a housing development plan, specific to that community.

This housing development plan could have real targets in reducing core need for that community. This housing development plan could be the blueprint for what the NWT Housing Corporation to address core need in every community. I'll have questions for the Minister of Housing at the appropriate time. Marsi cho, Mr. Speaker.

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Community Housing Development Plans

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The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Members' statements. Member for Kam Lake .

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Addressing The Need For Affordable Rental Units

Members’ Statements

Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

Mr. Speaker, this budget offers quite a few things Members of this House can get behind. One aspect in particular is investing $16.6 million in new federal funding for affordable housing projects with the intent of providing residents of the NWT with an increased number of households that are not only contemporary in all relevant safety standards, but more importantly, and all too rarely seen in the North, affordable. This is by all means a noble measure of this government to tackle the cost of living and will benefit a number of families in Yellowknife and in all our communities, but, Mr.

Speaker, today I want to advocate for a taxpayer that almost seems forgotten in this budget and one that is weighed down by the cost of living more than most, the renter.

Mr. Speaker, with the cost of fuel, power, food and other amenities being drastically higher than our neighbours in the South, the cost of living in our communities is so out of control to the point that this Assembly has made it a priority in our mandate. I commend this government for attempting to accomplish this for those families that will benefit from the earlier-mentioned budget measures, but our renters are also in a difficult position and I do not clearly see what this government is doing to address this.

In our capital city, a two bedroom apartment can be priced anywhere from $1,400 to $1,900, and a three to four-bedroom townhouse runs from $1,900 to $2,500. While in Fort St. John, a northern city of similar size to the South, a one to two-bedroom apartment starts at $500 and goes to $1,000, while a three-bedroom townhouse is in the range of $1,150, Mr. Speaker. This comparison, in my opinion, is staggering and acts as a deterrent from people across the country to even consider residing in our great territory.

Mr. Speaker, there are solutions to this problem though, and made-in-the-north solutions at that, for the Yukon has just recently made great strides in addressing them. They have awarded two Yukon developers capital funding to support the construction and operation of affordable renting housing projects in Whitehorse and Dawson City. One developer will receive $500,000 to construct urban micro-apartments in Whitehorse. In Dawson City, Chief Isaac lncorporated will receive $450,000 for a 14-unit development. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted

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Addressing The Need For Affordable Rental Units

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you to my colleagues as well. This is a clear example of a northern government recognizing the problem and addressing it in a way that partners with private sector and Indigenous governments, but it also does so in a transparent method that this Assembly expects to see of this government. So I ask, Mr. Speaker, if the Yukon is doing something to tackle the issue of affordable rental units, what is our government doing to solve our problem here in the Northwest Territories? For if it can be accomplished in our neighbouring territory; it most certainly can be accomplished here at home in the Northwest Territories. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Self-Government Initiatives In The Sahtu

Members’ Statements

Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

Today I rise in the House here to discuss the self-government initiatives undertaken within the Sahtu region, more importantly and more specifically we, the first government, here will see the first community-based and self-government initiative this fiscal year in a few months to come: the Deline self-government agreement. I would like to congratulate the previous government and the previous parties to that initiative and later I'll have questions to the responsible minister on pre-implementation planning which is important to any agreement on the implementation side of things. Mr.

Speaker, I'll have questions to the other remaining communities on their self-government initiatives. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Self-Government Initiatives In The Sahtu

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member for Mackenzie Delta .

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Employment Opportunities Relating To Housing Construction

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, over the next couple years we have a total of 12 units coming into the Mackenzie Delta. In Aklavik, we have two duplex modular homes, Fort McPherson we have three duplex modular homes there as well, and in Tsiigehtchic, we have one duplex that we're still awaiting from last year. Mr. Speaker, that's great we're having 12 units coming into our riding, but, the issue is that these are modular homes being shipped in. Mr. Speaker, it's always been a practice within our riding through the Delta that we have stick-built in the communities.

We have 25 per cent employment rate in our communities, small communities, throughout the NWT. Mr. Speaker, I never worked out the total amount of employment that we're losing here, but it's in the neighbourhood of at least 20 positions. People are not going to have that opportunity to work for somewhere. Sometimes it takes maybe five to six months to build these units, but Mr. Speaker, we're losing that employment in our communities and that's a big issue through my riding.

We have contractors in Aklavik and Fort McPherson that are losing out here, not to mention all the people that they employ to build these units. I realize the Housing Corporation feels they're saving money, but, they're also taking away from our riding that employs our people throughout our small communities. I'll have questions for the Minister later today. Thank you.

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Territorial Housing Issues

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Our people were nomadic, they travelled in the bush, they lived in the bush, and eventually our children were taken away. They were forced to go to school. At about that point, the GNWT took over housing and generalized programs as public housing. The current view of the housing programs is that there's program services and policies for housing and what we call a fiduciary obligation. In that view, the GNWT has a responsibility at providing adequate housing to First Nations and all residents of the NWT.

Within that policy initiative too, family units are separated and categorized in terms of needs and policy eligibility with focus on some primary family unit of parents and children, to ensure wellness and a healthy lifestyles. It is, I hope, the aspiration of this government for those people, families, to own their own homes. The seniors don’t have homes, the young people are living in apartments, and some people don’t even have a place to sleep. People that have been evicted or have arrears and no possibility of accessing their own homes are left to build their own shacks or houses, often on the titled property of their parents or relatives.

There are some parts of communities that could be compared to shantytowns for tent frames and shacks that popped up.

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Territorial Housing Issues

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Masi. Members' statements. Member for Hay River North .

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Economic Solutions To Reduce Need For Subsidized Housing

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R.J. Simpson

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, imagine waking up every day in a house that’s run down, mouldy, drafty and too small for your family. Then one day, you wake up in a big, new, beautiful home. You get out of bed and brush your teeth in your en suite bathroom and then make breakfast in your spacious kitchen. Mr. Speaker, you head off to your job with the mine, with a six-figure salary that helped you pay for your new home.

It’s well known that we have a deficit of appropriate housing in our territory. It’s been discussed ad nauseam, but no matter how many homes we’ve built, unless we address the cause of the economic disadvantage that fuels the need for subsidized housing, the problem will only get worse. I’m not at all opposed to social housing. We need to support those who need it. But when there are healthy men and women in Whati who want to work, who want to earn a good income, and who want to provide for their families, then it’s my priority to give them an opportunity to do that.

The road to Whati is not a handout to a mining company. It’s a way to support the creation of well-paying mining jobs and bring money and opportunity into a community. Despite how it’s sometimes portrayed in this House, Road to Resources is not a pejorative term. Roads to resources are our best hope to turn our local and territorial economies around. Just think if we built the Slave Geological Province road when it was first discussed in the '50s or if we built it in the '60s or the '70s or at all.

We wouldn’t have a $3.2 billion infrastructure deficit and a housing crisis and we wouldn’t be sucking at the teat of the federal government, begging our residents to complete the census so we can get our headcount money. We would have a stable resource revenue stream, securing our people’s future for generations to come. I didn’t get into politics to put band-aids on our problems. I did it to get people working. I don’t want to be part of another Assembly who couldn’t do what was needed to provide for our territory, so let’s build these roads and put people to work so they have the power to buy their own homes.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Ulukhaktok Arena Closure

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Herbert Nakimayak

Nunakput

Quyanainni Mr. Speaker, and Mr. Speaker, I’d like to thank my colleague for that statement. It’s very meaningful. Mr. Speaker, today I’m going to talk about the Ulukhaktok arena closure. The arena in Ulukhaktok has been closed since late last year when the Hamlet Council received the consultant’s report indicating that the building is contaminated with

mould

. According to the Hamlet, “a significant amount of mould was found on surfaces in both the hockey and curling rink. The report also indicated that mould was found in the air quality test in the lobby, kitchen, washrooms, and change rooms.” Mr. Speaker, mould spores occur naturally and can be found in the air both inside and outdoors. When these spores encounter a moist environment, they begin to grow and release toxins. Mould contamination can cause allergic reactions in some people, with younger people being more susceptible than most. Ice arenas, which have a high indoor relative humidity, can provide a perfect environment for mould growth.

The hamlet did the right thing by closing the arena while dealing with this mould issue to minimize the potential health threat to children and other arena users. Unfortunately, the closure of the arena poses other risks to young people in Ulukhaktok, risks associated with boredom and lack of physical activity.

As we know, the benefits of physical activity in children and youth are extensive, with many direct and associated positive outcomes. Regular physical activity is associated with lower blood pressure and lower rates of obesity and diabetes. It is also positively linked to better mental health outcomes such as better social skills, improved academic performance and reduce rates of anxiety and depression. For this reason, it concerns me greatly to see Ulukhaktok’s arena is scheduled to be closed for such a long time.

The consultant’s report revealed that it was a design flaw in the building, specifically, a lack of mechanical ventilation which caused the mould. The Hamlet is working to correct these issues and hopes to reopen the facility this fall. Later today, I will have questions for the Municipal and Community Affairs Minister about what the department is doing to assist Ulukhaktok to remediate the arena and re-open it to the public as safely and quickly as possible. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members’ statements. Member for Nahendeh .

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Congratulations To Echo Dene School Graduates

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As we get near to the end of the school year, grade 12 students are looking back on the years past in the school as well, looking forward to the next phase of their life. Echo Dene School in Fort Liard will celebrate their graduation on Thursday, June 9that 6:30 p.m. I have been invited to attend and I’m very proud to say that I’ll be attending. Unfortunately, this means that I will not be in the House tomorrow, so some of you Ministers will not get any questions from me. That may make you happy.

Mr. Speaker, I’m proud to say that I know all these three gentlemen. Ross, Ethan, and Keith need to be congratulated for all their very hard work and commitment in completing their high school requirements. What is really amazing, they were able to achieve their success in a small community where there are few resources, such as a well-stocked library, fewer teachers, and students to study and share their learning together.

Mr. Speaker, I believe in spite of this limitation, I believe the Internet has given these students in remote communities a chance to be successful in their home communities where they have friends and family for support. I thank the Minister of Education for providing support in that area. However, Mr. Speaker, the Internet is not the only reason for their success.

We have to thank all the teachers, including the three that are retiring, recognized yesterday, principals, support staff from the Deh Cho divisional education staff, and other school support staff who work just as hard to get these three their success. I need to recognize and thank the community, their coaches, friends, and family, parents, brothers, sisters, grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins who were there to encourage them along the way. As well, it’s time for them to be very proud of their graduates.

In closing, Mr. Speaker, I would like to again congratulate these three men on reaching this significant milestone in their life. There will be many more, I’m sure. Enjoy this moment, you’ve earned it. As you move onto your next adventure, whether it is more schooling, entering in the workforce, or travelling, this is just the beginning and I look forward to seeing their future accomplishments in whatever field it is in. I wish them all the best and look forward to being part of their celebrations tomorrow. Mahsi cho.

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Midwifery Services In The Northwest Territories

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Merci, Monsieur le President. Today, I’d like to talk about the long saga of midwifery services in the Northwest Territories, based upon the latest updates provided by the Minister of Health and Social Services . In 2012, the government responded to advocacy for community-based midwifery services with a Midwifery Review and Expansion Analysis Report. That report recommended options for expansion of midwifery services under community, regional and territorial models.

In July 2015, the Minister said that the next goal was to move forward with a territorial model based out of Yellowknife in 2015-16, so that the full rollout could be done in 2016-17. The exact nature of a territorial model was not defined in that 2012 report. Work on creating the territorial model appears to be stalled. To move it forward, two consultants were brought on in 2015 to flesh out the concept. Midwife positions were created and staffed in Hay River and Fort Smith. Rather than two Inuvik staff positions, the Beaufort Delta health authority decided to pursue other care models.

Positions proposed for Yellowknife and Behchoko have yet to be funded. That’s my understanding of where we are today.

The Minister stated in July 2015 that he was still committed to introducing midwifery services based in Yellowknife and would expand the program into the regions, starting with the Deh Cho and Behchoko. The word midwife does not appear anywhere in our 2016-17 budget, so there’s been little progress on this issue. Recently, the Health Minister told midwifery advocates that, “The consultation process is currently being developed for the territorial midwifery program and consultation will take place during the fall/winter of 2016.

Once completed, a proposal for territorial midwifery program will be reviewed and considered.” Mr. Speaker, we’re at least five years along from that decision that led to a 2012 report and recommendations. The 2015 work on two dedicated consultants has resulted in a proposal for further consultation in fall/winter 2016-17. That means that any incorporation into business plans is kicked down to at least 2018-19.

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Midwifery Services In The Northwest Territories

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Jackson Lafferty

Members’ statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery.

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

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Jackson Lafferty

My colleagues, I would like to draw your attention to a number of people in the gallery. All the language experts, language resource people, teachers, educators are here with us. I would like to thank you for being with us and more specifically for Camilla Bishop. Nora Wedzin is here with us. She’s been in a language area for a number of years as well, and also, Tammy Signwan-Deschambeault. Same teacher over the years. Thanks for supporting our language and continue your success. Masi. Member for Inuvik Boot Lake .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker and I couldn’t say it better myself. Thank you for your remarks to our wonderful language workers and instructors throughout the Northwest Territories. Today I’d like you to join me in welcoming board members that sit on the Official Languages and Aboriginal Language Revitalization boards, which is very important work as we’re moving forward in this government and was a priority coming out the 17thLegislative Assembly as well. I know they do really great work with our Aboriginal Language Secretariat as well.

Please welcome me in welcoming Dora Grandejambe, from the Sahtu Dene Council. She’s the chairperson of the Aboriginal Language Revitalization Board. Beverly Amos, chairperson of the Official Languages Board from the Inuvialuit Regional Corporation. Emily Kudlak, John Catholique, Emma Amundson, Jonas Landry, Mary Ross, Tammy Steinwand-Deschambeault, Teresa Etchinelle, Nora Wedzin, Vance Sanderson.

Also joining us here today are regional language coordinators, Barbara Memogana, from the Inuvialuit Regional Corporation; Mary Ann Vital, Sahtu Dene Council; Violet Jumbo, from the Dehcho First Nations; William Firth from the Gwich’in Tribal Council; Nicolas Carrier, Federation franco-tenoise. Also, I believe up in the gallery is Shannon Gullberg, our Languages Commissioner and our great staff over at the Aboriginal Language Secretariat that’s doing some great work. I’d like to welcome our staff for joining us here today and have all Members join us welcoming our great workers throughout the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

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Masi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Mackenzie Delta .

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I’d like to welcome Mary Ross and William George first to the House today. Thank you for all your work you’ve done for the Gwich’in language. Mahsi cho.

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Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Sahtu .

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I too would like to recognize Dora Grandjambe, Theresa Etchinelle, and Mary Ann Vital. Welcome to the Assembly. Members of our home riding. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Nunakput .

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Herbert Nakimayak

Nunakput

Quyanainni Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, also, I’d like welcome everybody from the Official Languages Board members, Aboriginal Revitalization Board members and regional language coordinators. I think we should put you guys to work in the translation booths. Mr. Speaker, I’d like to welcome a fellow Inuvialuit, Beverly Amos, Emily Kudluk, and Barb McKenna. I’m always a big advocate for Indigenous peoples and while we advocate for the environment, we keep our language strong. Thank you. Welcome.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to recognize a few other people in the gallery. We have Kelly and Todd Slack and the new addition to their family, Sam, probably one of the youngest people who has ever been in the gallery. David Wasylciw, who runs Open NWT, a valuable resource for political junkies. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Masi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Nahendeh .

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I too, would like to stand up here today and recognize a few constituents from my riding. Emma Abbotson and Violet Jumbo and a shout out to Tammy Steinwand there. Thank you.

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Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Thebacha .

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Louis Sebert

Thebacha

To recognize John Catholique, representing the Akaitcho Territory Government, and Vance Anderson, NWT Metis Nation.

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Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Deh Cho .

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Me too, I’d like to recognize several people in the gallery. The Official Languages Coordinator Revitalization Board, Jonas Landry, Emma Amundson, they work on the Aboriginal languages, and Violet Jumbo, she’s working on the revitalization program. I’d like to recognize them for the hard work that they’re doing. Thank you.

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Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh .

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Marsi cho, Mr. Speaker. I too, would like to recognize people for the Official Languages and Aboriginal Languages Revitalization boards. First, I’d like to recognize John Catholique, also mostly known as “JC”. Marsi cho. Also, I’d like to recognize Vance Sanderson from the Metis Nation. Vance is my grandson’s dad. I’d also like to recognize Angela James, from the Department of Education, Culture and Employment, and Angela is part of my big family. Thank you.

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Masi.. Recognition of Visitors in Gallery. Member for Yellowknife North .

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Like my colleague, I want to also recognize residents of the Yellowknife North riding, the Slack family: Todd, Kelly, and Sam. Thank you for being here.

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Masi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Yellowknife Centre .

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Masi, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to recognize my constituent, Nicolas Carriere, who is with Franco-tenoise and helps to keep the French language strong here in the territory. Mahsi.

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Masi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery.

Mary Sundberg is a very strong advocate for languages; I would like to thank her. She really promotes the language. They all do a very good job in promoting our language. Thank you, very much. Item 6, acknowledgements. Item 7, oral questions. Member for Nahendeh .

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Question 185-18(2): Construction

Schedule For Charles Tetcho School In Trout Lake

Oral Questions

Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yesterday I received an email from Sambaa K’e First Nation council in Trout Lakes, district of education party regarding concerns about Charles Tetcho School expansion. Mr. Speaker, construction is scheduled to start in February 2017 and is going until the school year ends in June 2017. They feel that there is no space in the community that will accommodate all the school-aged students during this time and they’re concerned that the students are going to miss out a lot of school while the construction is occurring. Mr.

Speaker, they feel it is going to be very noisy and not safe for the children. I have some questions for the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment . Is the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment willing to work with the Minister of Public Works to ensure that their staff gets into the community to discuss the construction

schedule since the last time they were in the community was May 2015? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you. Mr. Speaker and yes, some of the 12 are doing in Moose Kerr School and in our other communities and we’re looking at the capital planning studies for providing facilities and safe facilities for students. We want to make sure that we’re doing it in the right way in terms of safety and environmental protections, so yes, the same commitment. We’ll work with the school and the community and with Public Works and Services to ensure that we’re doing this in the proper way it’s supposed to be done. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Way too fast today. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the Minister for his answer. However, he didn’t really answer the question, I was asking if he’d get his staff into the community. But I can ask that a little bit later on. Mr. Speaker, with the construction happening to the school, has the department come up with a plan to house the students during this construction phase?

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

I thought the Member had asked if I was going to be willing to work with PWS and I did answer that one, and of course, our staff will go into the community and work with the community and the school board. We’ll get our superintendent in there. I’m also willing to make a commitment to go into the community and see for myself and work with Public Works and Services moving forward. Unfortunately, as the Member had stated in his

preamble to the questions, space is an issue. We will be doing a phase-in approach when we’re working, making the renovations and the work that needs to be done while construction has been happening.With the phased-in approach, the students will be housed in one

section of the school while work is being done. Then, on the second phase, they’ll be moved into the other part of the school while work is being done and we will be doing it within the best interests of the students of the staff, to make sure that the least disruption will be happening as we’re making these renovations to this school. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

I thank the government, Mr. Speaker and I thank the Minister for his answer. Mr. Speaker, can the Minister tell the House how the department is going to address such issues as safety of the site and the noise level during school hours that will impact on the students?

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

The department, along with Public Works and Services, will develop safe work plans and safety plans with accordance to the WSCC guidelines and approval. As I mentioned, we want to try to do this in the proper way. It’ll be a phased-in approach and we’ll try to do it with the least disruption to the students and the staff and try to adjust the noise issues as we are developing these safe plans on the building of the school.

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker and I thank the Minister for his answer. He’s kind of answered, but I’m going to rephrase it a bit here. Will he commit to a time frame when his staff and the DPW staff will get into the community, consult with them? He’s already made a commitment to come in and I’m assuming we’re going to have to do that in the fall because we’re in session right now. But will he commit to get or a time frame when the staff from DPW and Education get into the community and talk to the DEA and the council. Thank you.

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Yes and unfortunately, we are in session nearing the end of the school year, but I’ve made a commitment to try to get out to all the schools, all the communities over the course of my term and I will commit to going into Trout Lake, working with the community, see how we can get this school built in the best possible way and you will bring staff in there.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 186-18(2): Northwest Territories Housing Corporation Communications Strategy

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Marsi cho, Mr. Speaker. I have questions for the Minister, NWT Housing Corporation, following my Member’s statement. I’d like to ask if the Minister feels that the Housing Corporation has an effective communications plan for the people that they serve, specifically, the public housing clients at this point. I hear a lot of people come to me and indicate that it was difficult for them to report their income and they’re having trouble with that because they would pay 30 per cent of their gross income towards rent.

I know that hasn’t been the case for quite a few years that the maximum rent is just a little over 19 per cent of their gross income, so I’d like to ask that question to the Minister. Does she feel she has an effective communications plan for the people in public housing? Thank you.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think at the GNWT level that the Ministers and the Premier have addressed, have identified that communication within all of our departments is an area that we need to work further on. I have given direction to the Housing Corporation to develop a communication plan. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Mr. Speaker, I’d like to ask if the Minister would consider looking at developing a housing plan which has all aspects of housing that we look at in the communities, meaning that they look at not only the public housing, but all of the home ownership in the communities and all of the market housing and all of the staff housing in any particular community. I recognize that this would be a difficult task in a place like Yellowknife and Hay River, Inuvik. In the small communities where a high percentage of people are reliant on social housing, I’d like to ask if the Minister would develop a housing development plan for each community.

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

Yes, the NWT Housing Corporation is committed to doing a community housing development plan, specific for every community. We will be looking within that to get answers from people who live in the homes, the LHO’s within every community, the community government and the staff of course, of the corporation. As well, I will be asking feedback from our MLAs in, to also give feedback into the questionnaires within this survey before it is put out.

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Mr. Speaker, recognize that the Housing Corporation has a number of programs to address the housing needs across the communities. I believe there are four main home ownership programs. There’s market housing initiatives. There are other staff housing initiatives and of course, public housing also. I’d like to know if within the point when the Minister is doing the community housing development plans, if there’s any contemplation that perhaps it could change the programs and change the way they try to address core need at the community level. Thank you.

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

Yes, the Housing Corporation is actually, the reason that we’re putting out the survey is to identify within each community what they define as their priorities because we do recognize that one size does not fit all and we need to take more of a community focus within our housing programs. We are open to looking at every program that we currently provide and other options that the communities may put forward.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Marsi cho, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I’d like to ask the Minister has there been any discussion with her senior officials at the Housing Corporation towards developing a plan for what we’ve been talking about through the mandate, aging-in-place for seniors. Thank you.

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

Yes, the senior management within the NWT Housing Corp. also recognize the aging-in-place for seniors issue is huge and that we need to address it. We are taking a really proactive approach to actually providing housing so that people can age in place.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 187-18(2): Improvements To Housing Corporation

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, earlier I spoke about the challenges of housing faced by the residents of the Northwest Territories and so did many of my colleagues. My questions, of course, are for the Minister of the NWT Housing Corporation. Mr.

Speaker, in its 2008 audit of the NWT Housing Corporation, the Auditor General said, “we believe that good planning and relevant performance measures will assist the Corporation to identify and address its challenges, engage the corporation’s progress in meeting the housing needs of all Northwest Territories’ residents.” Can the Minister explain, what are the key components of the department’s approach currently to improving housing in the NWT? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The key component to addressing housing within the NWT at this point for the NWT Housing Corporation is to utilize the community survey that we will be sending out to identify the needs within each community and developing our plan based on each community’s identified priorities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you to the Minister for her reply. Mr. Speaker, is the department’s work on improving housing still being guided by its April 2012 strategic framework document?

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

At this point, the strategic plan is actually expired, so we’re looking to do the new plan and then of course the surveys will be utilized to develop our new plan.

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Mr. Speaker, what is the department doing to work with communities to make sure land is accessible for developing more housing?

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

The NWT Housing Corporation land

section works a year in advance to identify the land needs for the following year’s projects. One of the strategies we also use is the buildings that need to be demolished. We consider that when we’re looking at new buildings, and so often we’ll take out a unit to put in a new unit within that, on that land.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you to the Minister for her reply. Lastly, Mr. Speaker, what is the department doing to reduce dependence on public housing and to promote independent home ownership, particularly in the non-market communities? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

We do have a program currently, called the PATH program that is providing assistance to territorial home ownership programs, that people can actually purchase homes within the communities. There’s different rates depending on the community. We do an assessment of the building, based on the community and then the, I mean, sometimes actually the units are actually given just for the land costs. We’re revisiting that as well because we do recognize that very soon the operating and maintenance money, CMHC funding, will be expiring. We need to come up with a plan.

We’re kind of looking at ideas around more home ownership programs and just seeing if we can work within the different communities to help them to give them the infrastructure so that they can take more ownership upon their own.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 188-18(2): Supporting Housing First Clients

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I believe in Housing First, and I believe for Housing First to work, our government needs to play a very important

part in the provision of a central, clinical, medical services to support the clients. My question today is for the Minister of Health and Social Services . Concerns have been raised that the department may not be providing these services to clients and support the model. Can the Minister confirm of the status of the provision of these services? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 188-18(2): Supporting Housing First Clients

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Housing First Program includes providing participating clients with what has been termed wraparound services. Discussions have been had between the Department of Health and Social Services and the City of Yellowknife, where the City of Yellowknife has clarified that the intent of their Housing First proposal it to have 24/7 supervision and support of clients on site. That does not mean or does not include on-site clinical services 24/7.

The Department of Health and Social Services has committed both publicly and in meetings with the City to ensure that all required clinical supports be made available to all Housing First clients through the City's proposed Housing First program. These may include medical treatment, mental health services, addictions counselling, or addictions treatment. All of these are insured services, Mr. Speaker, and are core programs and they're available to all residents of the Northwest Territories.

As far as costing, if demand for the services by the Housing First clients results in financial pressures for the system, this will be addressed through the business planning process. But at this time, we're not anticipating any additional costs because the City's planning to ramp up their Housing First from a low intake in the beginning to I think it's up to 20 by the end of the program. We'll have time to figure out what those costs will be.

If there is a desire to provide some additional on-site clinical services, this is something that we may also have to have some additional conversation about incremental funding on. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

Thank you to the Minister for the answer. How will the department be reviewing the provision of these services to ensure that they're provided in a timely manner and are effectively supporting the program?

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, that's going to really involve what the RFP ends up coming back looking like that the city has currently issued. From there, we'll be able to have the conversation on how we're going to continue or enhance the services that we're providing, and as I said, some of this might involve some on-site outreach, which we're absolutely open to doing once we've quantified what it's going to look like. Until we know that, we don't really know what it's going to look like. We're looking forward to having those conversations with the city so that we can build a model here in cooperation with the city that works and is effective.

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Is the Minister willing to commit, at this point, to providing additional health resources or funding, as required, to support this program moving forward?

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as I indicated we don't believe, at this time, it's going to take some additional funding. We need to actually get into the program with the City of Yellowknife to figure out how it's going to roll out. As the demand ramps up, we might require some additional funding, at which point we are going to come back to the business planning process and have that discussion with committee. Mr.

Speaker, the department was an active participant at the April homelessness community partnership forum and is participating in the two different working groups that were mentioned in this House previously. One of the working groups, under the leadership of the city, is sorting through recommendations from the forum to identify priorities, cost out the priorities and establish a roadmap moving forward. We're clearly a part of that, as is the Housing Corp., as is the Department of Education, Culture and Employment, and we will certainly be working together.

There are some areas for critical action and we would be happy to discuss those with committee as we move forward.

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Question 188-18(2): Supporting Housing First Clients

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I, for one, appreciate that the department is being proactive and the government's being proactive in the support; it's music to my ears. We know that the department will be supporting the Housing First project. How will the department be addressing homelessness moving forward in other communities outside of Yellowknife, across the territories, and providing the same kind of support to clients who are without homes? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 188-18(2): Supporting Housing First Clients

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, the Department of Health and Social Services is not the only department working on this and we are not going to be able to solve the problem, but we can be part of the solution, working with communities, working with other departments.In Yellowknife, there are a couple of things that were identified at the housing forum, the homelessness forum, that was held a couple weeks ago. Some areas for critical work that we're working on is addressing the shelter hour gap here in Yellowknife, that's one of the issues that was identified. We anticipate this might require some additional funding, which we'll be coming back to have discussions with committee.

We also want to be able to make sure that the program that the city is proposing involves properly, as I've already indicated, and that we're working closely with the city. We also need to explore options for harm reductions programs to support clients in Yellowknife, including things like a wet shelter or a managed drinking program, and work with other partners to see how this might fit into the roadmap for action.

Once we've done that work and we've applied it in Yellowknife where we have real demand, it is something that we certainly can look at exploring in other communities and regions throughout the Northwest Territories, but we do have to start somewhere. I can also say that the Housing Corp. is currently working to provide some shelters in communities outside of Yellowknife; they're looking at Aklavik, Fort Simpson, and Behchoko right now. Work is happening, Mr. Speaker. More work is required.

It's going to take the will of both sides of this House to get this done and it's going to take some creativity and partnerships with cities, communities, hamlets, as well as other governments.

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Question 188-18(2): Supporting Housing First Clients

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The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Sahtu .

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Question 189-18(2): Implementing The Deline Community Self-Government Agreement

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I ask the Minister responsible for self-government, Mr. Bob McLeod , on the preparation initiatives underway from the pre-implementation leading up to the Deline self-government in the next two and a half months. What undertaking is underway to ensure this Assembly there's going to be a smooth transition? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 189-18(2): Implementing The Deline Community Self-Government Agreement

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The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Honourable Premier .

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Question 189-18(2): Implementing The Deline Community Self-Government Agreement

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As the Member is aware, the Deline Final Self-Government Agreement will be coming into effect on September 1, 2016. That will become the first self-government agreement to be negotiated in the Northwest Territories on a community basis. In fact, earlier this week the Deline Got'ine Government held its first election and have elected Raymond Tutcho as its first chief.

MACA and Aboriginal Affairs have also formed a bilateral working group with the Deline self-government transition team. This bilateral work is intended to provide support and assistance to Deline in preparing for self-government and to keep one another apprised of progress on their respective pre-effective date activities. In addition, HR and Public Works and Services have been providing support in the area of human resource planning, policy reviewing, and information technology.

The Departments of Aboriginal Affairs and Intergovernmental Relations and Lands and the Deline self-government transition team have formed a bilateral lands implementation working group to ensure that all matters related to the transfer of Commissioner's lands to the Deline Got'ine Government are completed before the effective date. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 189-18(2): Implementing The Deline Community Self-Government Agreement

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

Is this working group going to be looking after the remaining Sahtu communities for their self-government initiatives?

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Question 189-18(2): Implementing The Deline Community Self-Government Agreement

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

I would say that, overall, self-government negotiations in the Sahtu Settlement Area are going very well with several significant milestones having been reached at several tables recently.

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Question 189-18(2): Implementing The Deline Community Self-Government Agreement

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

If things are underway and going smoothly, can I get a copy of the negotiating schedule, Mr. Speaker?

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Question 189-18(2): Implementing The Deline Community Self-Government Agreement

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

In Tulita, the negotiators for the parties recently completed a draft self-government agreement-in-principle, which is currently undergoing internal review. I expect to have the honour of signing the Tulita self-government agreement-in-principle in the coming weeks. The Deline Got'ine of Colville Lake self-government negotiation process and

schedule sgreement was signed in 2014 and negotiations on agreement-in-principle are well underway. Fort Good Hope self-government agreement negotiations, they've reached an agreement on a process and

schedule agreement and expect it to be signed very soon. We are ready to begin negotiations with Fort Good Hope and Canada as soon as possible, and Norman Wells negotiations are working towards completing a full draft of an AIP, and I'll make this information available to the Member.

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Question 189-18(2): Implementing The Deline Community Self-Government Agreement

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Sahtu .

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Question 189-18(2): Implementing The Deline Community Self-Government Agreement

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My last question is that I look forward to working with the Minister to conclude the

schedule so we can have target dates before us here to ensure that these dates are met, and any supports that we can provide from this Assembly to ensure that there's an open and transparent negotiating table in the process. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 189-18(2): Implementing The Deline Community Self-Government Agreement

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Jackson Lafferty

I didn't hear a question, more of a comment. However, I'll allow the Honourable Premier if he wishes to answer.

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Question 189-18(2): Implementing The Deline Community Self-Government Agreement

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm pleased to report that in Colville Lake, with the Deline Got'ine, we are in a pilot project for fast-tracking self-government negotiations, and I expect that we'll all benefit from that. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 189-18(2): Implementing The Deline Community Self-Government Agreement

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Yellowknife Centre .

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Question 190-18(2): Reducing The Need For Emergency Shelter Services

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my statement today dealt with the issue of migration and how there will always be some need for emergency shelters in Yellowknife, but probably and hopefully not to the extent that they are available now. My question for the Minister responsible for Homelessness is: what planning is she doing with the shelters to reduce their bed nights over time? Thank you.

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Question 190-18(2): Reducing The Need For Emergency Shelter Services

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 190-18(2): Reducing The Need For Emergency Shelter Services

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There's actually a few things that we're doing to reduce the shelter bed nights, the amount of people that are staying in the shelters within the Yellowknife community. For one, we are working with the City of Yellowknife with their Housing First Project. We're also working with the shelters to implement a Housing First project within their own so that they can move some of the people that are in their units into more of an independent living structure.

Finally, we are working within the communities as well to implement emergency shelters within the community-- three identified this year, so that they will have options and they don't have to migrate to Yellowknife simply because they have no place to live. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 190-18(2): Reducing The Need For Emergency Shelter Services

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you to the Minister for that answer. A dimension of my question is whether the Minister can foresee a time when funding for emergency shelters will decline because Housing First has taken effect in Yellowknife.

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Question 190-18(2): Reducing The Need For Emergency Shelter Services

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

That's actually a very difficult question because I recognize that the term of the government is only four years, which doesn't give us a lot of time and really hard to evaluate during that period of time. I am hoping that the next Legislative Assembly will carry forward the work and to move forward within the Housing First model and to get people more independently housed.

There will always be a need for emergency shelters though, and that's just the reality of shelters throughout the world, and especially within the Northwest Territories because this community of Yellowknife is a very transient community with our mines, et cetera. We're a magnet community. That was acknowledged by the Member in her opening statement, so there will always be a need for emergency shelters within our community but, hopefully, as she stated, that will go down as long as we are more proactive in trying to move people, give them the skills and the assets so that they can live independently.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 190-18(2): Reducing The Need For Emergency Shelter Services

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you to the Minister for that. So, Mr. Speaker, to give a specific example here, the Housing First project in Yellowknife plans to house 20 people in the next three years. Does that mean there will be a decline in the shelter capacity of 20 people?

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Question 190-18(2): Reducing The Need For Emergency Shelter Services

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to be able to say yes, that there would be a decline by 20 people. However, in the short period of time that I have been a Minister, I have noticed that there's been an increase within homeless people within the community. I am not as optimistic, and I would have to say that probably this is going to be a long-standing issue that we will have to dedicate a lot of time within the next, not only the four years, but for a longer period. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 190-18(2): Reducing The Need For Emergency Shelter Services

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 190-18(2): Reducing The Need For Emergency Shelter Services

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you to the Minister for that. One approach that has taken in Calgary is to make it as a goal that people who live in emergency shelters won't spend more than five days there, that they have a rapid rehousing program, so can the Minister envision setting a goal of that kind where there is a commitment that people will stay in emergency shelters for short periods of time so that they aren't stuck on the housing continuum the way they are now?

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