Debates of Feb. 17th, 2011

This is page numbers 5903 - 5942 of the Hansard for the 16th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was housing .

Topics

Oral Questions

Members Present

Prayer

Minister’s Statement 107-16(5): Updated Diamond Policy Framework

Minister’s Statement 108-16(5): Minister’s Cultural Circle

Eligibility For Seniors Home Heating Subsidy

GNWT Affirmative Action Hiring Policy

Housing Issues In The Sahtu

Hay River Participants At The Canada Winter Games

Employment Rates In Tu Nedhe

Giant Mine Remediation

Distracted Driving And National Year Of Road Safety

Workers’ Safety And Compensation Commission Draft Regulations

Firefighters In Small Communities

GNWT Contracting Practices

V-Day North Campaign To Stop Violence Against Women And Girls

Recognition Of Pages From Kakisa

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Workers’ Safety And Compensation Commission Workplace Safety Regulations

Contracts For Psychiatric Services At North Slave Correctional Centre

Participant Funding For Environmental Assessment

Leave The Phone Alone Pledge Campaign Against Distracted Driving

Employment Rates In Small Communities

GNWT Affirmative Action Hiring Policy

Eligibility For Seniors Home Heating Subsidy

Volunteer Firefighters In Small Communities

Housing Issues In The Sahtu

Government Strategies To Combat Family Violence

GNWT Contracts Report

Proposed New Wildlife Act

Written Question 23-16(5): Training And Promotion Of GNWT Employees

Tabled Document 141-16(5): Diavik’s Community Legacy Projects: Highlighting Our First Decade Of Investing In The North

Tabled Document 142-16(5): Poster For V-Day North Events

Tabled Document 143-16(5):

Summary Of Members’ Absences For The Period February 27, 2010 To February 1, 2011

Joe Greenland Centre

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and other Matters

Report of Committee of the Whole

Orders of the Day

The House met at 1:33 p.m.

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Prayer

Prayer

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Good afternoon, colleagues. Welcome back to the Chamber. Welcome to all our guests in the gallery today. Item 2, Ministers’ statements. The honourable Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment , Mr. Bob McLeod .

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Minister’s Statement 107-16(5): Updated Diamond Policy Framework

Ministers’ Statements

Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, mining and diamond mining, in particular, is a cornerstone of the economy in the Northwest Territories. Today I would like to highlight a significant achievement of this government, the updating of the Diamond Policy Framework. This updated framework will continue to support and encourage the growth of the diamond manufacturing industry in the Northwest Territories by providing a more streamlined and flexible approach, including reducing the red tape associated with the approval process for gaining approved northern manufacturer status.

Diamond, mineral exploration and production has brought significant economic opportunities to our Territory. But it’s not just exploration and production that provides employment opportunities to Northwest Territories residents and increases the world-wide recognition of northern diamonds. The secondary diamond industry also plays an important role in diversifying and developing the economy of the Northwest Territories, a key goal of this Assembly.

In 1999 the Government of the Northwest Territories implemented the first Diamond Policy Framework, a policy that facilitated the establishment of a diamond manufacturing industry in the Northwest Territories. We have learned a lot during the past decade. We have learned what works, what doesn’t, what we can offer, and perhaps most importantly, what we want from a secondary industry for the people of the Northwest

Territories. The diamond industry has changed a lot since the first diamond came out of the ground at the Ekati mine in 1998 and this policy framework has been updated to reflect current operational realities and lessons learned.

Updating this Diamond Policy Framework was a major accomplishment for our government and it required consultation with a broad range of stakeholders. I want to thank the Standing Committee on Economic Development and Infrastructure, Government of the Northwest Territories departments, the operators in the Northwest Territories diamond manufacturing industry, the Northwest Territories diamond mines and the City of Yellowknife for their input and involvement.

The diamond value-added industry does not only include the cutting and polishing. Valuing and sorting the rough diamonds produced from the Ekati, Diavik and Snap Lake mines is also an important part of the industry. Diamond tourism also has a lot of potential. For example, the cutting and polishing demonstrations you see at the Northern Frontier Visitors Centre. The updated Diamond Policy Framework supports the secondary diamond industry by endorsing the production of cut and polished diamonds here in the Northwest Territories and promotes diamond tourism and jewellery production.

We know that diamond manufacturing operations must be sustainable and they must be well capitalized and follow sound business practices. The Government of the Northwest Territories will continue to provide support to the secondary diamond industry through programs provided by the Business Development and Investment Corporation and the Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, such as the Support for Entrepreneurs and Economic Development Policy.

We have the building blocks for a sustainable industry: the Approved Northern Manufacturer Program, a 10-year-plus supply of high-quality diamonds from our mines, and arrangements with the mines to provide a portion of their rough diamonds to our approved northern manufacturers. We also have our Northwest Territories Certification Program, which is highly sought after by manufacturers, and our Polar Bear Diamond brand trademark. These are all things that we know work

well and are still included as part of the updated Diamond Policy Framework.

The updated Diamond Policy Framework enhances the efforts of this government to build a sustainable diamond manufacturing industry, diversify our economy and maximize benefits for Northwest Territories residents and we look forward to seeing the long-term benefits of this policy.

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Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Minister responsible for Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Lafferty .

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Minister’s Statement 108-16(5): Minister’s Cultural Circle

Ministers’ Statements

Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. The Department of Education, Culture and Employment is pleased to announce the launch of the Minister’s Cultural Circle.

This circle recognizes those who contribute to the preservation and promotion of cultures and heritage in the Northwest Territories. The circle aligns with this Assembly’s goal to strengthen awareness of our northern identity and uniqueness by promoting our successes, our culture, our arts and our languages with a proud and unified voice.

It highlights achievements and commitments of local cultural leaders, practitioners and groups. It also recognizes grassroots community-based projects as well as regional and territorial initiatives. The welcome of ideal candidates into the Cultural Circle stems from a public nomination process to identify people, groups and organizations who are recognized and respected in their communities or regions for their wisdom and cultural contributions.

Nominees will be welcomed into the Minister’s Cultural Circle annually. Consideration will be given to any project, organization or person residing in the Northwest Territories who demonstrates a high level of commitment and makes an outstanding contribution to the promotion of culture and heritage.

There are three categories of recognition that are proposed:

elders respected for their contributions of

practice, promotion, guidance, teaching, leadership, vision and hands-on participation in the areas of culture, heritage and language;

any organization, corporation, institution,

organizing committee or social club that plays a lead role in the development and support of community-based events that celebrate, promote and preserve culture and heritage;

youth under 25 years of age who demonstrate a strong commitment to engaging in cultural learning and practice.

Mr. Speaker, the Cultural Circle will help build awareness among all Northerners about the importance of promoting, protecting and preserving our unique culture, heritage and ways of life. I look forward to welcoming inductees into the Cultural Circle at this year’s award ceremony. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister’s Statement 108-16(5): Minister’s Cultural Circle

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Item 3, Members’ statements. The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Eligibility For Seniors Home Heating Subsidy

Members’ Statements

Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I would like to return to an issue that I’ve raised before and spoke on in Committee of the Whole yesterday. I want to speak about eligibility issues with the seniors home heating subsidy that was raised during my tour of the constituency in January.

It is not uncommon for an adult son or daughter of an elder to live in their parent’s home, and it can be very helpful as it means there will be someone in the house who can help them in difficult situations. Also, I do have an instance where a family member does not actually live in the home but does stay there for a few days a month, and not every month, Mr. Speaker.

When a family member moves in, even temporarily, the guidelines affect the amount of fuel a senior receives. They then have to pay for fuel at their own expense. This is a large expense for a person living on old age security. Also, fuel support is denied because of paperwork required for household income. If some has genuinely had no work in the previous year, I believe that having use of a statutory declaration document should be sufficient until they complete their income tax, which can take time. Today is when the elder needs fuel, not one month from now. They need fuel at the start of the winter season, not in February or March when taxation forms arrive.

I have a frustrated constituent of an elder who believes that our system is broken if we cannot be flexible and understanding. It used to be that elders received five cords of wood for the winter and there was no taking it back if someone moved in. In some cases elders are taking in homeless relatives and addressing a problem that our Housing Corporation identifies as one of its greatest challenges. Also, it does cost our government money to house the homeless. If a senior is generous enough to share his or her home with a homeless relative, surely we can change the policy to reflect this.

We should make an exception where elders’ needs are better met living in their own home with a family member.

I urge the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment to review the strict guidelines of household residents and requirements of taxation notices of assessment and find a better alternative to take care of the needs of our elderly and seniors. Mahsi cho.

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Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Krutko .

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GNWT Affirmative Action Hiring Policy

Members’ Statements

David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We tried to build a prosperous Territory, but, Mr. Speaker, as always, some people are left behind and are better off than others. I’m sorry to say that it’s a pattern that is continued to be followed and it even applies to the employees of the Government of the Northwest Territories.

Mr. Speaker, the Government of the Northwest Territories is not respective of the people that we serve in which 50 percent of our population are Aboriginal but only 31 percent of the government employees are Aboriginal. In Yellowknife only 16 percent of the employees are Aboriginal and I wonder to what extent that there are twice as many women as men in government occupations were Aboriginal workforce.

It gets worse, Mr. Speaker. There are only 31 Aboriginal senior managers in this government, which makes up 16 percent of senior managers. If that makes you think that Aboriginal employees are at the bottom of the pay scale, Mr. Speaker, you are right. The average salary of a P1 employee is under $69,000 a year compared to that of a P2 employee which are non-Aboriginal Northerners, the average salary is more than $84,000 a year.

Not only is there a huge pay difference, but in most cases Aboriginal employees have their money spread further because 67 percent of them live in small urban communities or regional centres where the cost of living is generally higher than Yellowknife. I ask, Mr. Speaker, how fair is this?

This government brags about true equal opportunities for employers, but is it really? What are we doing as a government to improve this? More importantly, what are we doing to add to the skills and opportunities of Aboriginal employees? How many years of residential schools and government-run schools here in the Northwest Territories have had an opportunity to build on the employment opportunities of the Aboriginal workforce that really reflects the people it serves but not simply having a backseat to everyone else in their homelands? Mr.

Speaker, again, I think it is very important to realize that we have high unemployment rates among Aboriginal people here in the Northwest Territories. Even...

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Mr. Krutko , your time for Member’s statement has expired.

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Members’ Statements

David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted

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Members’ Statements

David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Again, Mr. Speaker, we have to be fair to all residents of the Northwest Territories, especially the ones that this is their homeland. More importantly, Mr. Speaker, by getting to the point of unemployment rates in Aboriginal communities that it is the highest in the Northwest Territories of any other ethnic group, again, I would like to get this issue out there on the table and get some serious debate on exactly what are we doing to improve the number of Aboriginal people in the government workforce.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko . The honourable Member for Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Housing Issues In The Sahtu

Members’ Statements

Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When the Premier and I met with the Sahtu people the other day in Deline, we heard leaders talk about housing. It is still in the minds of our elders, Mr. Speaker, when the government came to our communities and asked our people to move off the land and into government houses, and that they would only have to pay $2 a month for their house. It is very clear to our elders when the government told this to them. Why would people ask to move into government houses? More importantly, what was told to them and promised to my people by the government about housing?

Mr. Speaker, there are many stories about the high cost of living in a house. As a homeowner, we pay for all the costs to maintain a house. Nothing is free. As a renter in public housing, we pay the maximum rent or pay as little as $32 a month, depending if you have a job or not.

Mr. Speaker, my people in the Sahtu want jobs. Mr. Speaker, for example, a young man who graduated from Chief Albert Wright School is working with a company to build houses and lives in a one-bedroom unit and is paying $1,800 a month. Now, we have not yet added the food, household items or just entertainment. This job may last up to six months.

As you know, food prices are sky high in the North. It costs us a lot to travel outside our communities. We need to give our people, especially young people, a good chance in life. Hopefully with the recent announcement by the Minister of the Housing Corporation , we will be able to fill all of these 82 empty units in the North at a reasonable price.

Mr. Speaker, the federal government is cutting back on housing money each year and the federal government says by the year 2038 there will be no more funding for housing in the Northwest Territories. What kind of government do we have in Ottawa? Don’t they know a promise is a promise, Mr. Speaker? Now we are asked to hold the bag and help our people.

I will have questions for the Minister at the appropriate time, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Hay River Participants At The Canada Winter Games

Members’ Statements

Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The first Canada Games was hosted in Quebec City in 1967 where 1,800 athletes came together to participate in sport. Today, as we speak, 2,700 competitors from 800 Canadian communities are taking

part in 20 sporting events at the Canada Games in Halifax, Nova Scotia. The Government of the Northwest Territories continues to encourage and support our athletes and volunteers who attend this event representing their home communities and the Northwest Territories.

In addition to being an unforgettable experience for our athletes, the Canada Games are an important component in the development of high performance athletes. Mr. Speaker, at the Vancouver Olympics last year, 63 percent of the Canadian athletes who won medals had competed previously at the Canada Games.

Our athletes are living their dream at the Canada Games and I would like to name the Hay River participants who are in Halifax this week: Gavin Broadhead, hockey; Connor Goudreau, hockey; Carter Hill, hockey; Mason Bruneau, judo; Ilona Gyapay, cross-country skiing; Skylar Horton, badminton; Joseph Lirette, biathlon; mission staff Stephen MacKay; our hockey coach, Curtis Broadhead; and biathlon coaches Doug Swallow and Chuck Lirette.

Mr. Speaker, in closing I would like to quote one of Hay River’s promising young athletes, Joseph Lirette, who has been training and competing for seven years. He is a lifelong Northerner and is 17 years old. On the Canada Games official website each athlete has a participant’s page where they can post their biography and comments.

In response to the question to athletes, what will you bring to the Halifax 2011 Canada Games, Joseph Lirette’s answer is: “I will bring a desire to represent the NWT with pride and to race well in a national level competition.” This is an amazing example of the fine young athletes we have representing us at these games. I congratulate all of our participants and wish them the best of luck at the games, and,

yes, we are very proud of you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe , Mr. Beaulieu .

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Employment Rates In Tu Nedhe

Members’ Statements

Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Mr. Speaker, time and time again I have asked about the issue of very low employment rates in Tu Nedhe. In other words, Mr. Speaker, I’m talking about people in Tu Nedhe that do not have work. Mr. Speaker, I have drawn comparisons to the larger communities in the NWT which have employment rates twice that of the small communities.

Mr. Speaker, if this government does not develop an employment strategy for smaller communities, things will not change. Employment development in the smaller communities will not impact the larger communities in a negative way. In fact, the more employment created in the smaller communities, the better it will be for the larger communities.

Mr. Speaker, if the government has to develop a strategy with a goal of increasing employment rates in the small communities by 20 to 25 percent, meaning that we plan to raise the employment rates from around 40 percent to 65 percent, we would have many positive impacts throughout the North, including in the larger communities. Mr. Speaker, if these small communities had employment rates comparable to the rest of the North, this government would see savings in income support, health, social services and housing.

Mr. Speaker, currently there are several programs run by both the GNWT and the federal government that could be coordinated and incorporated into an employment strategy led by Education, Culture and Employment. This will take a real effort, but the benefits will be well worth it.

Mr. Speaker, people with jobs have good child care options, will show a renewed interest in their children’s education. Currently, people show signs of hopelessness in the small communities. It is difficult for people to get up day after day and get their children off to school when they themselves have nothing to do, no job to go to, no productive choice to make.

I cannot lay out what the...

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Mr. Beaulieu , your time for your Member’s statement has expired.

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Members’ Statements

Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted

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Employment Rates In Tu Nedhe

Members’ Statements

Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

I cannot lay out what the Employment Strategy could consist of, but I feel that the very first step to providing much needed employment and income into the small communities is a strategy for the betterment of the entire NWT.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . The honourable Member for Weledeh , Mr. Bromley .

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Giant Mine Remediation

Members’ Statements

Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. DIAND’s recent decision to fund participation by outside groups in the environmental assessment of the Giant Mine Remediation Project is good, but late in coming. I want to congratulate DIAND for finally offering participant funding for federal environmental assessment, something that southern Canadians have enjoyed since the 1980s.

As Member’s know, DIAND is again in the conflicted position of being both the project proponent and the regulator. GNWT is a co-proponent under the 2005 cooperation agreement. To further complicate matters, other federal and territorial departments, who would normally appear as interveners in a public review if this were a private firm’s proposal, are working with DIAND to develop the project, so the work by these departments takes place behind closed doors and without any scrutiny.

Now, for the first time in the NWT and after a decade of process, DIAND has approved participant funds under the MVRMA, Mackenzie Valley Resource Management Act, to three outside bodies: the Yellowknives Dene First Nation, North Slave Metis Alliance and Alternatives North. This allows for informed public oversight of the process and project. The groups have stepped forward to act as the public’s defence attorneys. Without them, the whole kit and kaboodle would be done without hearing a critical outside word.

All of this raises a number of issues. First, rather than being exceptional, such funding should become standard practice. As Mr. Pollard continues on his review of our regulatory system, he has the opportunity and responsibility to listen to our northern boards and see this practice included in his recommendations. These developments also provide a timely commentary on the underfunded and piecemeal resource management regime we are inheriting under the devolution agreement-in-principle and highlights a key issue: Given the costs of an adequate territorial system, does the AIP deal sell us short or does it meet these needs?

Let’s be thankful for such committed guardians of the public interest as Alternatives North, the Yellowknives Dene and North Slave Metis. Hopefully the gains they make on our behalf will be

carried forward diligently from now on and after devolution.

I will be asking the Minister questions with respect to the GNWT’s role in participant funding.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . The honourable Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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Distracted Driving And National Year Of Road Safety

Members’ Statements

Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In January I read a GNWT press release that indicated that 2011 is the National Year of Road Safety. As part of the press release, our Minister of Transportation stated that the NWT traffic collision statistics are on a 20-year downward trend. That’s good news, but society is still plagued by people who drive with their judgment impaired or distracted by alcohol, by eating, through inattention to the roads, by kids in the back seat, and my pet peeve, talking on cell phones or texting with them.

The Department of Transportation has run a safe driving campaign for a number of years now, a program called Drive Alive. The campaign slogan for 2011 is: Safety is No Accident. The campaign seems to be working, because our traffic collision statistics are going down and I’m most happy to report that there is a shift in the focus of the Drive Alive program for this year.

For 2011 the number one Drive Alive initiative will be a pledge campaign intended to reduce the number of people using their cell phones while driving. This campaign, called Leave the Phone Alone, specifically targets drivers who use their phone while driving. It’s an easy task; a simple on-line pledge which takes only a few moments and then the pledgee gets a reward for this action: a sticker for your car window to proclaim your Leave the Phone Alone commitment to everyone who looks at your car.

I have taken the pledge and I look forward to seeing many more pledge stickers -- including Mrs. Groenewegen ’s -- like mine on NWT vehicles. I want to congratulate the Minister and the department for putting the pledge initiative in place.

If I’m happy with the pledge campaign -- and I am -- then I’m overjoyed that the Department of Transportation will soon introduce amendments to the Motor Vehicles Act; amendments which will legislate penalties for distracted drivers and ban the use of cell phones while driving. I am so glad that the Minister has finally seen the light and that this change is coming forward. As I’ve said many times before, it will create safer NWT roads and provide protection for our residents.

I will have some questions for the Minister of Transportation at the appropriate time.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . The honourable Member for Great Slave , Mr. Abernethy .

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Workers’ Safety And Compensation Commission Draft Regulations

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Improving workplace safety is not an easy task but is a crucial part of all of our lives. Every one of us knows somebody who has been seriously hurt or even killed at work. When it happens, it can be a heart-wrenching tragedy for the worker, the family, co-workers and the businesses involved.

Northerners have been working under our current Safety Act and the current regulations since 1990, with only a few minor changes in 1992. It’s high time that we revisit them. In 2008 the Workers’ Safety and Compensation Commission’s Minister appointed a Safety Advisory Committee to do just that. A special construction industry representative was added this January. The committee reviewing the regulations has done a tremendous amount of work.

There have been concerns raised in the public with respect to the draft regulations that have been released for discussion. Some members of the public have felt that the proposed regulations are not in the best interest of northern businesses or employees. This is a public process and input from stakeholders is critical to ensuring that the final product and final regulations are in the best interest of the public, employees and employers.

There are many improvements proposed within the draft regulations that will bring us in line with advances across Canada. There will be a single set of regulations where there used to be a handful. Worksite health and safety committees will be stronger and deal with more issues firsthand. Prevention will be emphasized. Requirements for personal protective equipment will be updated. The regulations should be better and easier to enforce. Yes, standards for cold weather work need to be sorted out. Concerns need to be addressed. Yes,

definitions should be clear, such as what constitutes construction, maintenance and so on. I have confidence that the Safety Advisory Committee, with feedback from the people of the Northwest Territories, will get the job done.

The deadline for input into these regulations is now March 31st , extended from October. The deadline

has been extended twice now. I urge everyone with an interest in workplace safety to take a look at the draft regulations on the WSCC website and take the time to share their knowledge and insight. Our workers and employers deserve the best.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . The honourable Member for Nunakput , Mr. Jacobson .

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Firefighters In Small Communities

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Jackie Jacobson

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There’s a one-of-a-kind community volunteer that stands out from them all and that’s the firefighters that are asked to conduct exercises in gruelling conditions and asked to risk their lives in the name of community protection. In addition, they are asked to fundraise for their equipment. In a world where firefighting equipment is becoming more costly, hamlets all across the Territories, such as Tuktoyaktuk, Sachs Harbour, Ulukhaktok and Paulatuk, have not had increases in specific firefighting budgets in the last five years.

As I expressed during previous statements in this House, our small and remote communities are still ill-equipped to fight fires. The approach that our departments are taking to let the fires burn is just to control it. Our communities are not on the offensive, they’re always on the defensive. This is unacceptable, considering all the small and remote communities are the most susceptible to house fires and have the highest number of deaths per capita in Canada. You’d think this government would be working with our local fire marshals in the communities to get this sorted out.

Tuktoyaktuk alone will need to replace eight Scott Air Packs and 12 bunker suits. My office did a quick search regarding the cost for standard firefighting equipment. To replace one Scott Air Pack is $6,000. Every cost to the community government is too expensive. It’s $20,000 to replace those Scott Air Packs. The protective suits are $2,000 each. Replacing one would be $6,000 and I’m not even mentioning the related fire truck. I’m not a certified accountant, but I can see that all these add up to the community.

Other hamlets and fire chiefs told me that they’re still experiencing major technical problems with the fire truck, in addition to the garage and keeping their equipment heated and always under repair. Why is this government continuing to place fire services for small and remote communities on the backburner? Why are they always playing the blame game and saying the responsibility is the local government?

I’ve visited Nunakput communities enough to know that each community desperately needs a complete overhaul of their halls.

I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted

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Jackie Jacobson

Nunakput

We need to desperately overhaul completely the fire halls in our remote communities. What I’m especially concerned about is the lack of equipment and resources for community firefighters to enter a house and search for people trapped in the fire. I hope no community

or firefighter in the NWT will have to experience this, but if they do, we must equip them. They’re risking their lives to service and protect our communities. At least we can train them and equip them accordingly.

I will have questions for the Minister at the appropriate time.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . The honourable Member for Kam Lake , Mr. Ramsay .

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GNWT Contracting Practices

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In February of last year I made a statement in this House in relation to the Government of the Northwest Territories contracting practices. Today I’d like to follow up on that statement.

The number I cited last year of roughly $53 million being handed out through sole-sourced means has gone up by nearly $5 million, to $58 million in the government’s latest contract registry.

Going through the latest contract registry leads me to the same conclusions I made last year: one, we have an addiction to consultants; two, our staff are taking on too much contract management and administration duties; three, we hire far too many former employees; and four, we sole source way too often which clouds transparency in contracting.

Some highlights of this year’s report on contracting include almost $6,000 spent on a sole-sourced contract for a local lodge to record the daily weather -- that’s ENR; $45,000 sole sourced to set up a camp in Baker Lake, which is in Nunavut -- that’s ENR; $8,000 to Prince Albert Grand Council community observers to look at the Beverly caribou herd; and $23,000 sole sourced for what is called photo

interpretation. ECE is also spending $6,500 on an air charter to the Tahera mine site, again located in Nunavut. Strategic advice coming in with a $56,000 price tag in the Executive; $120,000 spent on telecommunications regulatory expertise in the Executive. There was $43,500 spent on what is called the Neutron Activation Analysis by ITI.

I always find it interesting in going through the contract registry both by what is in there and what is not in there. For example, the Deh Cho Bridge contract with Ruskin. If it was signed prior to March 31, 2010, should it not show up in that contract registry? It’s nowhere to be found. Also, if North Slave Correctional Centre has been without a clinical psychologist for the entire reporting period, where is the evidence in this registry that we contracted those services? There’s a little bit, but there’s not very much. As was suggested by the Minister of Justice just the other day, we have been contracting that service. Where is it?

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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V-Day North Campaign To Stop Violence Against Women And Girls

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Sadly, rates of spousal abuse in the Northwest Territories are 5 percent higher than the national average. In 2007, 88 percent of Northerners said that they are concerned about family violence in their community.

Since 2008, the V-Day North Campaign has worked to combat this trend. V-Day is a global movement to stop violence against women and girls. In 2010, volunteers produced 5,400 V-Day events in over 140 countries and educated millions of people about violence against women. V-Day North is a group of Yellowknife men and women who put together creative events to create awareness and raise money for anti-violence organizations.

I’d like to take this opportunity to encourage the public to attend any or all of the upcoming events in Yellowknife. These include a live comedy event on February 19th at the Top Knight; a documentary film

screening on February 28 at the Capitol Theatre; a play, A Memory, A Monologue, A Rant and A Prayer, by Eve Ensler, that runs from March 10th through 12th at the Top Knight.

Mr. Speaker, 90 percent of the proceeds from ticket sales are divided between the Alison McAteer House and the Centre for Northern Families in Yellowknife. The remaining portion goes to the 2011 Women and Girls of Haiti Spotlight Campaign that helps address the high levels of sexual violence against women following the earthquake and devastation back in January 2010.

Violence is a destructive force in our community and ignoring it will not make it go away. V-Day brings the issue to the front and centre and I encourage all Northerners to get out and support the people who are working to change that. Mr. Speaker, this is not a legacy we wish to leave our young people. Accordingly, it’s time to distinguish ourselves as leaders in the struggle against violence against women.

Mr. Speaker, I’ve certainly not given up hope on this particular issue and, in turn, let’s not remove the hope of our future generations that we can work to stop violence against all women. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . The honourable Minister for Deh Cho, Mr. Michael McLeod .

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Recognition Of Pages From Kakisa

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wanted to take the opportunity today to thank two hardworking Pages that are here from the biggest little school in the Northwest Territories, the Kakisa Territorial School. The school is a very small school. It has nine students this year. It has a very high standard for their students. They work hard to support them.

Today we have Dalton Simba and Joey Lacorne-Chicot with us. They’ve been here all week. They’ve come in with their chaperone, Patrick Chicot, on Sunday. They’ve had the opportunity to take in the sights of Yellowknife and enjoy Chinese food and pizza and movies. They’ve been working very hard and they’re doing a very good job.

I had an opportunity to go visit them during the Christmas holidays during the Christmas concert and, certainly, the whole school put on a very entertaining two-hour solid performance, with singing and dancing and a lot of fiddle players. I think every student in that school has a fiddle and they all are learning to play. On a per capita basis, they probably have the most fiddlers around the Northwest Territories.

I wanted to say thank you to them. They both came all spiffed up for this occasion, both wearing the traditional garb of new moccasins, and if you look close, one of them has an NWT crest beaded on the front of it. They’re dressed very appropriate for today and all week.

I wanted to wish them a safe trip home and also say thank you to yourself, Mr. Speaker, and all your staff for accommodating them and allowing a program such as the Paging Program to get them into Yellowknife and do some work for us and see how our sessions are conducted. Thank you very much.

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Recognition Of Pages From Kakisa

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Item 4, reports of standing and special committees. Item 5, returns to oral questions. Item 6, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Monfwi , Mr. Lafferty .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I do have several people to recognize, so if you indulge me. First of all I’d like to recognize in the gallery the Northern Teachers’ Association who is here with us: Mr. David Reid, president of the NWT Association; Dave Roebuck, the executive director of the NWT Teachers’ Association; Emile Hatch, executive director of the Nunavut Teachers’ Association; and Katherine Mackwood, president of the Yukon Teachers’ Association.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to also recognize the Aboriginal Languages Revitalization Board and Official Languages Board here with us today. If I can read out their names: Nadine Koe from Yellowknife; Beverly Amos, Sachs Harbour; Margaret Leishman, Kakisa; Betty Hardisty, Fort Simpson; Tammy Steinwand, Behchoko; Wendy Mantla, Behchoko; Lucy Lafferty, Behchoko; Rosa Mantla, Behchoko; Vance Sanderson, Fort Smith; Dorothy Desjarlais, Fort Smith; Dora Grandejambe, Yellowknife; Ann Kochon-Orlias, Colville Lake; Dolphus Tutcho, Deline; Theresa Etchinelle, Tulita; and Georgina Biscaye, Fort Resolution; and also with us, Albert Canadian, director of official languages. Mahsi.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I am very happy that my older sister Elizabeth “Betty” Hardisty is in the gallery here today. She lives in Fort Simpson. I’d like to recognize her and thank her for her support all throughout the years. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . The honourable Member for Thebacha , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to take advantage of the opportunity to recognize two constituents already recognized by the Minister of Education , but they’re from Thebacha: Vance Sanderson and Dorothy Desjarlais. I would like to thank them for their work with the Aboriginal languages and welcome them to the House.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . The honourable Member for Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I too want to recognize constituents from the birthplace of ice hockey in Canada, the Sahtu region. I’d like to recognize Ann Kochon-Orlias from Colville Lake, Dolphus Tutcho from Deline and Theresa Etchinelle from Tulita. I’d also like to recognize Dora Grandejambe. I know her heart is in Fort Good Hope but her work is here in Yellowknife. I’d like to recognize some family and friends here also.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . The honourable Member for Deh Cho , Mr. Michael McLeod .

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it gives me great pleasure to welcome Margaret Leishman, who is a strong proponent of the Aboriginal languages in the Deh Cho, to the House today. I also wanted to recognize a former resident of Fort Providence, Mr. Albert Canadian, who recently published a book called Leshamie. I encourage everyone to buy it. It’s good reading. I also wanted to recognize Percy Hardisty

from the Deh Cho region. He’s done a lot of work with MVERB, and, of course, his wife, Betty Hardisty, who’s here to check on her little brother. So he’s on his best behaviour. Welcome. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It’s my pleasure, as well, to recognize members of the Aboriginal Languages Revitalization Board and the Aboriginal Languages Board, and particularly a Frame Lake constituent, Dora Grandejambe, whose heart may be in Good Hope but she’s here now. I’d also like to recognize Nadine Koe, a friend who I worked very hard with on Arctic Winter Games in 2008. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I too would like to acknowledge Nadine Koe, a constituent of Yellowknife Centre, who sits on both the Official Languages Board and, of course, the Aboriginal Languages Revitalization Board. Her contribution will be great and greatly appreciated. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe , Mr. Beaulieu .

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I too would like to recognize individuals on the Aboriginal Languages Revitalization Board and Official Languages Board: Georgina Biscaye from Fort Resolution and Vance Sanderson from Fort Smith. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . The honourable Member for Nunakput , Mr. Jacobson .

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Jackie Jacobson

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It’s an honour for me today to recognize Beverly Amos. She’s from Sachs Harbour. Welcome to the House, Beverly. She’s also with the Aboriginal Languages Board. Thank you very much.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Jacobson . If we’ve missed anyone in the gallery today, welcome to the Chamber. We hope you’re enjoying the proceedings. It’s always nice to have an audience in here.

Item 7, acknowledgements. Item 8, oral questions. The honourable Member for Great Slave , Mr. Abernethy .

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Question 471-16(5): Workers’ Safety And Compensation Commission Workplace Safety Regulations

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are for the Minister responsible for the Workers ’ Safety and Compensation Commission. They’re related to the workplace safety regulations that are currently being drafted and developed by the commission.

The original release of those drafts was earlier in the fall, last year, and at that time there were some concerns raised by industry, businesses, the construction industry, about the regulations. They’re very concerned with what was written in them. I know some work has been done to alleviate some of those concerns but I am wondering what the Minister can do to ensure public confidence in the final product. What is being done to restore some of the confidence that some people out there may not have as these regulations, these draft regulations move forward to their final product? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 471-16(5): Workers’ Safety And Compensation Commission Workplace Safety Regulations

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . The honourable Minister responsible for the Workers ’ Safety and Compensation Commission, Mr. Robert McLeod .

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Question 471-16(5): Workers’ Safety And Compensation Commission Workplace Safety Regulations

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We had the original date of October as the cut-off date. We heard concerns from across the Northwest Territories, industry, and a lot of other folks involved. They had some concerns with the length of time they were given to look over the draft regulations. We extended it, as the Member said in his Member’s statement, twice. The date we have now is March 31st for them to get their input in

on the regulations. I can assure the Member that ultimately the final decision will rest with my office and I can assure them that we will make sure that there is a quality product before we even release it out to the NWT. Thank you.

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, I would like thank the Minister for that, in particular the assurance that it is not going to go past his desk until everything has been considered. I am wondering, though, as far as the next steps are concerned. What is the Minister going to do to ensure that the people who have had input get feedback so that they know that they have, in fact, been heard and that what they said has been incorporated where appropriate? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 471-16(5): Workers’ Safety And Compensation Commission Workplace Safety Regulations

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, one of the concerns we did hear was about the representation on the Safety Advisory Committee that was drafted in the regulations, and we appointed another member recommended by the NWT Construction

Association to that committee. I can assure the Member and all those out there that all inquiries that we have had, I have responded to a lot of the inquiries and a lot of the technical questions that they had. The Safety Advisory Committee will be responding to them. They will be taking their concerns and advice when they draft the final regulations and the final product before it reaches my office. Thank you.

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Question 471-16(5): Workers’ Safety And Compensation Commission Workplace Safety Regulations

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, once again, thanks to the Minister for that. I am wondering if the Minister could outline for us what the next steps are. I know that the deadline for input is March 31st ,

but where are we going from there? What are the deadlines for the drafting, the consolidating the information, going through it, making sure they capture everything? For the public, what is the follow-through? What is the process and how long until the regulations reach the Minister’s desk? Thank you.

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, after the March 31st deadline, the Advisory Committee will

review all the input that is received from across the Northwest Territories. They will then come up with a set of regulations. As far as the time frame, I am not even sure the exact date when I would be getting it in my office, but I do know shortly after the March 31st deadline the Safety Advisory Committee will be

meeting to review all the input that they have had from across the Northwest Territories and putting together their final product and then it will reach my office. Thank you very much.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final supplementary, Mr. Abernethy .

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will there be any more opportunities for input on the final draft or will this be the one that ends up... I guess what I am asking is, is there another opportunity for feedback on the final product? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, once the committee has reviewed all the input that they receive, then it will come to my desk and I will be sure that I won’t release a product that is not one that is beneficial to employers of the Northwest Territories and employees. As far as more input, I suppose it is something that we would have to take into consideration once we reach the final product. If maybe there is another opportunity for some input before a final decision is made, I can assure the Member and I can assure all Members that I have made it a priority to not release a product that is not beneficial to employees and employers in the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

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Question 471-16(5): Workers’ Safety And Compensation Commission Workplace Safety Regulations

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Kam Lake , Mr. Ramsay .

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Question 472-16(5): Contracts For Psychiatric Services At North Slave Correctional Centre

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Getting back to my Member’s statement and I suppose I could ask questions to any one of my colleagues across the floor on the contract registry, but I am going to zero in, if I could, on one item in particular that just is not in that contract registry, Mr. Speaker. It is something that I brought up in this House time and time again and that is the lack of psychiatric services at North Slave Correctional Centre. Mr.

Speaker, looking at the contract registry that goes from April 1, 2009, to March 31, 2010, if you look at the Department of Justice, apparently they had a request for proposal of $20,000 to psychiatric services, Doctor Smith, and that would appear to be it. Mr. Speaker, can I ask the Minister if that was the entire budget for psychiatric services for the North Slave Correctional Centre for that period of time? Thank you.

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Question 472-16(5): Contracts For Psychiatric Services At North Slave Correctional Centre

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The honourable Minister of Justice , Mr. Lafferty .

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Question 472-16(5): Contracts For Psychiatric Services At North Slave Correctional Centre

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Jackson Lafferty

Minister of Justice

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I don’t have the detailed information with me here, but I can find out from my department exactly where things stand with that particular contract. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Mr. Speaker, what I am trying to do is come up with some idea of what services are provided to inmates in that centre for that period of time. Mr. Speaker, if they are without a clinical psychologist and the department would apparently... It looks like they spent $20,000 on a contract to one psychiatrist. Is that the limit of psychiatric services that were provided to inmates at the North Slave Correctional Centre for that period of time? I would like to ask the Minister again that question. Thank you.

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Question 472-16(5): Contracts For Psychiatric Services At North Slave Correctional Centre

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Monfwi

Jackson Lafferty

Minister of Justice

Mr. Speaker, that contract has been awarded to provide those clinical services within the corrections. Again, I would have to get back to the Member on that, but we do provide those services at the corrections to deal with those inmates that require those special services.

As I stated in this House, we do have an individual that is under training. The individual will be completed this summer. She will be a qualified psychologist within a facility. We are looking forward to that, but there is a contract being provided. The services are being provided to the inmates within the corrections. Mr. Speaker, that is what I can relate to the Member at this point, that services are being provided. Mahsi.

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Mr. Speaker, what it appears like to me is that for that period of time there wasn’t a clinical psychologist and it would appear that the

department spent $20,000 on a contract to one psychiatrist. Mr. Speaker, we are having repeat violent offenders walking out of that facility, recommitting crimes in our Territory. Mr. Speaker, I want to know how it is possible without a clinical psychologist that the Department of Justice could only spend $20,000 on services to inmates at North Slave Correctional Centre. That is what it looks like, Mr. Speaker. Where is the evidence of any other psychiatric services that were provided to inmates at that facility? I would like the evidence of that. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Monfwi

Jackson Lafferty

Minister of Justice

Mr. Speaker, I did commit in the House I will provide that information. Mahsi.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Final supplementary, Mr. Ramsay .

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As well, I am not talking about what is going to happen in the future or what is happening right now. I would like to know what is happening right now, too, but this period of time, Mr. Speaker, if we didn’t have adequate services for inmates that were at that centre, which would appear to be the case, I would like to know about that. I would like, again, to get a commitment from the Minister that he is going to include that period of time, April 1, 2009, to March 31, 2010, and if he wants to throw in what is happening today and going forward for psychiatric services in there, I would appreciate that as well. Thank you.

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Monfwi

Jackson Lafferty

Minister of Justice

Again, I commit in the House to provide that information, Mr. Speaker. The $20,000 the Member is referring to, the length of time the service was provided, we can provide that information to the Members. Mahsi.

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Question 472-16(5): Contracts For Psychiatric Services At North Slave Correctional Centre

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . The honourable Member for Weledeh , Mr. Bromley .

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Question 473-16(5): Participant Funding For Environmental Assessment

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are for the Minister who is responsible for environmental assessment. I want to start following up my Member’s statement by asking this question. Has the GNWT insisted that Mr. Pollard bring policies on participant funding up to snuff similar to southern jurisdictions for environmental assessments? Thank you.

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Question 473-16(5): Participant Funding For Environmental Assessment

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . The honourable Minister responsible for Environment and Natural Resources , Mr. Michael Miltenberger .

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The discussions we’ve had with Mr. Pollard in regard to regulatory reform and the work he’s doing and some of our concerns have focused on other areas. Though we have talked about

properly funding the processes that are currently there that haven’t been funded, things like cumulative impact. Thank you.

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you. That certainly is an area that needs attention. I think these boards have been underfunded, but all of the northern boards have spoken out repeatedly, calling for participant funding, Mr. Speaker. So I understand, from interviews of Mr. Pollard recently and so on, the process of environmental review process is ongoing. So will the Minister provide that input to Mr. Pollard? Thank you.

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Yes, Mr. Speaker.

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you and I appreciate the Minister’s commitment there. That’s a good one. I’m wondering if the GNWT actually contributed any of the funds for this precedent-setting move where Giant Mine interveners finally did get funding, and with GNWT being a co-proponent, would they consider topping up the available participant funding, because they certainly got less than they had applied for and obviously need. Mahsi.

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you. We will listen carefully to the Member’s suggestion and request. The issue of a top-up is one I will check. Our responsibility is mainly to do with the surface remediation and, of course, we’ve already contributed $27 million that we’ve booked for our share. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . Final supplementary, Mr. Bromley .

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you to the Minister for his remarks there. My last question: did the Minister ensure that his legitimate expense under the Mackenzie Valley Resource Management Act should be accounted for in the AIP negotiations, was it accounted for in the AIP negotiations to date and will he be ensuring that they are part of the final agreement? Mahsi.

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you. The AIP negotiations have yet to start. We’ve signed an agreement to start the negotiations and there is a

section on remediation of sites and I will check whether Giant Mine is within that particular process or not, but the main point being that we’ve just initialled the document and the actual negotiation process has yet to start. Thank you.

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Question 473-16(5): Participant Funding For Environmental Assessment

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . The honourable Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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Question 474-16(5): Leave The Phone Alone Pledge Campaign Against Distracted Driving

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As always, I’m trying to keep the issue of drivers using cell phones, and the fact that they shouldn’t be, front

and centre in people’s minds. It’s definitely not something we should be doing. I’m looking for a bit more information from the Minister of Transportation in regard to the pledge campaign that is now part of the Drive Alive program. So I’d like to ask the Minister if he could elaborate a little bit on the Leave the Phone Alone pledge campaign, what the department is doing to put the campaign in place. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . The honourable Minister responsible for Transportation , Mr. Michael McLeod .

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Question 474-16(5): Leave The Phone Alone Pledge Campaign Against Distracted Driving

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’m glad the Member has raised the issue of safety for our travelling public, whether it’s on our roads or our trails or our waterways. It’s an issue that you have to be constantly promoting.

This past couple years we’ve initiated a Drive Alive activity list program that focuses on different areas. Last year we had a number of things that we worked on. This year we want to continue that. We’ll be providing advertisements and also asking some of our colleagues from the MLAs to participate. We have developed a helmet safety program through posters and other means. We’re also doing a lot of work in other areas of creating awareness with the bison and issues around bison on our highways. We’ve committed to hiring summer students and we’ve also incorporated a website and developed that over the last while and we’re doing some displays at our airports.

As part of the Drive Alive activities we’ve also started the program Take the Pledge – Distracted Driving and we have a number of activities. I can’t specify what the response has been. We’ve invested some dollars so far and plan to do another 13 or 14 thousand dollars worth of investment to promote the program. As soon as we get some summaries, I can provide it to the Member. Thank you.

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thanks to the Minister. The more we can do to publicize the negative aspect of driving and using cell phones and texting, the better. I’d like to know from the Minister if he knows at this point -- I understand it’s a little bit preliminary for this campaign -- whether or not the department is working in conjunction with any other groups that also work to get people to not drive distractedly. Thank you.

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Michael McLeod

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We had planned to contact the MLAs, if we haven’t done it already, to ask them to participate and do some promotional ads on this area. We have worked with the Students Against Drunk Drivers, I believe, and some of the municipalities, and of course we are always in contact with the RCMP, the municipal workers and the different sports organizations across the Territories. Thank you.

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thanks to the Minister. I guess if the Minister is going to contact MLAs, I hope that he would publish how many MLAs or how many do not take the pledge. I’d like to know from the Minister -- I mentioned in my statement that there are some amendments coming forward -- whether or not the Minister at this point can provide more information about what those amendments will be. Thank you.

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

I’m not sure whether we’re going to threaten the MLAs to take part. We would expect most MLAs would want to be involved with the program to providing advertisements on the different radio stations and television stations. Also, I’m sure that many would want to sign up for a Take the Pledge Program.

The legislation for distracted driving has gone through the process. We have done the due diligence on it and provided our findings to standing committee. The legislation is now in the process of being drafted. We’re working with Justice on this. We’re hoping that we’ll have the draft legislation prepared for final review. It still has to go through a number of checks and balances here before we’ll provide it, but we would expect that we would have that ready, if all goes well, at the tail end of this session or more than likely it would be the May-June session. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Your final supplementary, Ms. Bisaro .

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thanks to the Minister. I definitely don’t want to threaten anybody, but we’re called leaders and I would hope we would be leading in this particular aspect of not driving with our cell phones in use. Thanks for the information on the amendments.

To the Minister, I guess I’m just wondering, knowing that the legislation is coming forward sometime and will be passed sometime in the next four or six months, any idea when the legislation will take effect? Thank you.

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

There’s still a number of internal review processes, as I mentioned earlier, to go through. Of course, I can’t give a 100 percent guarantee that it’s going to pass. We’ve already had one motion on the floor that didn’t get the full support. The details are all in the bill, including the timing. I don’t have that information in front of me. Certainly it will come forward as we move this document forward. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe , Mr. Beaulieu .

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Question 475-16(5): Employment Rates In Small Communities

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker. In my Member’s statement I again spoke about employment rates in small communities. To get a feel for whether or not this topic is on the

government radar, I’d like to ask the Minister of ECE if there is any dialogue between departments specifically on the low employment rates in the small communities.

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Question 475-16(5): Employment Rates In Small Communities

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . The honourable Minister responsible for Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Lafferty .

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. This particular area has been discussed amongst the departments and through the Rural and Remote Communities committee that has been dealing with this particular initiative. Through that we have identified funding for small employment into the communities. That’s an area that we have targeted and we continue to push forward with that.

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Question 475-16(5): Employment Rates In Small Communities

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Over and above the money allocated for employment programs in rural and remote communities, what is the plan to address the issue of low employment rates in small communities as it pertains to this department and other departments?

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Question 475-16(5): Employment Rates In Small Communities

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

The other departments probably have their own plans to deal with employment in small communities. We deal with apprentices, local employment and various GNWT NGOs in the different areas. Within ECE I can speak specifically to that information we have, that we do have regional training centres in the communities. Committees are being established to deal with those matters at hand. We’re identifying the priorities on the hiring and training where it’s needed based on community needs. These are the coordinators at the community level and regional level that deal with those matters.

We do have a plan in place within our department to deal with the employment and training and so forth. We always promote career opportunities into the communities as well.

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Question 475-16(5): Employment Rates In Small Communities

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

I’d like to ask the Minister if the government has done what’s referred to as a 360 evaluation to determine all the benefits that could be accrued by raising employment rates in the small communities.

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Question 475-16(5): Employment Rates In Small Communities

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

This may have been addressed by the Rural and Remote Communities committee along with other departments. I can follow through within Education, Culture and Employment on what kind of dialogue has been transferred in that area and transpired in that area. I’ll have to get back to the Members on that. Specifically if there has been discussion on what the Member is referring to.

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Question 475-16(5): Employment Rates In Small Communities

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Final supplementary, Mr. Beaulieu .

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Question 475-16(5): Employment Rates In Small Communities

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Does the Department of Education, Culture and Employment have any documented objectives to

address this issue of low employment rates in small communities?

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Question 475-16(5): Employment Rates In Small Communities

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

I think we have goals and objectives to deal with employment in small communities. That’s the very reason why we have these initiatives on the way since last year and moved into this year’s budget. We’ll continue to address that matter. It is important to us to deal with the high unemployment in the communities. We’ll have to work closely with the communities, the regional training centres and the regional committees as well. It has to be hand in hand. They’re linked in all capacities, whether it be the band council, the corporations, the municipality, NGOs and so forth. There are a lot of partnerships that need to come into play.

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Question 475-16(5): Employment Rates In Small Communities

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Krutko .

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Question 476-16(5): GNWT Affirmative Action Hiring Policy

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is directed to the Minister of Human Resources . It’s in regard to my Member’s statement where I showed a wage disparity between P1s and P2s somewhere in excess of almost $20,000. These are employees of the government.

We just went through a major court case on pay equity across the country between the federal employees and Government of the Northwest Territories employees. It seems there’s a discretion between P1s and P2s. I’d like to ask the Minister of Human Resources why there is such a discretion between the P1 employees and P2 employees of an excess of $20,000.

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Question 476-16(5): GNWT Affirmative Action Hiring Policy

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko . The honourable Minister responsible for Human Resources , Mr. Bob McLeod .

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Question 476-16(5): GNWT Affirmative Action Hiring Policy

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Yellowknife South

Bob McLeod

Minister of Human Resources

We don’t pay employees based on race. The way we calculate the remuneration for jobs is we have a job evaluation system that’s consistent throughout the Government of the Northwest Territories.

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Question 476-16(5): GNWT Affirmative Action Hiring Policy

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Again, the whole argument under pay equity was because there was such a discretion between gender from the wages that men were getting compared to women and they tried to bring that in line with the reality of the time. From what the information being provided is, there is a $20,000 difference between two classes of people that are employed in the government under the different classification of P1 and P2. I’d like to ask why there is such a discretion. Is it because of education levels? Is it because of where they’re located? The majority of these individuals under P1 are located in the smaller communities. Why is there such a discretion on the base? You can call it

race, you can call it whatever, but there’s a difference of almost 30 percent wages between one group and another.

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Question 476-16(5): GNWT Affirmative Action Hiring Policy

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Yellowknife South

Bob McLeod

Minister of Human Resources

The Member is trying to make an issue that is complex into a very simplistic one. I think you have to understand what pay equity is all about. When you compare pay equity that was undertaken by this government with regard to female employees, it was for work of equal value. People with degrees, doctors, what have you, it was based on comparing job skills of equal value. When you take P1, P2 and you compare salaries, well, it’s based on the merits and requirements of the job.

For example, anybody will tell you that the level of education you have determines the type of job that you have, your ability to get a job and the remuneration that you get. That’s how the evaluation of jobs works. It’s based on the job requirements, the educational requirements, and we’ve done all kinds of things to eliminate systemic barriers in hiring. We’ve put in equivalent experience, we’ve evaluated all of the different jobs.

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Question 476-16(5): GNWT Affirmative Action Hiring Policy

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

I’d like to ask the Minister what this government is doing to enhance Aboriginal employees in the government so that they can see their wages increase by offering them education and skill development so they are able to move up the ladder, be on the same wages as the people they’re working with in the same room, yet we don’t have this discretion between one level and another. How much money are we spending to enhance the Aboriginal employees in this government to make sure they are getting the fair treatment as everyone else in the government services?

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Question 476-16(5): GNWT Affirmative Action Hiring Policy

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Yellowknife South

Bob McLeod

Minister of Human Resources

I think the Member is asking a very timely question following up on the questions asked by his colleague MLA Beaulieu. The way I see it is a good economy provides for the land and for the people. I think what we need is an economy that will create jobs. As a government we are spending a lot of money on education so that people in the Northwest Territories, young people will be able to get good jobs, good paying jobs. In order to do that, you have to have an economy that creates jobs.

As a government we have an Affirmative Action Policy. We’ve identified an Affirmative Action Advisory Group that will help us to improve on it. We are taking a number of different steps to increase the percentages so that we have a representative public service. We have more Aboriginal people working for our government. As you said, we’ve been flat-lined at 31 percent for over 10 years. Obviously we have to take a different approach. We’re also spending money to put Aboriginal people into senior management positions. I’m hoping as we go forward that we can put more money into that area so that we can move

from 14 percent to 50 percent. Those are the kinds of things that we’re doing as a government.

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Question 476-16(5): GNWT Affirmative Action Hiring Policy

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final supplementary, Mr. Krutko .

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Question 476-16(5): GNWT Affirmative Action Hiring Policy

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to ask, the majority of government employees reside here in Yellowknife but only make up 16 percent the workforce as Aboriginal. I’d like to ask the Minister why so few Aboriginal people are working here in Yellowknife, headquarters, where the majority of government employees are, but they only make up 16 percent of the workforce here in Yellowknife. What are we doing to get more people working in headquarters and increase that 16 percent number here in Yellowknife so that it actually reflects the people that we serve?

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Question 476-16(5): GNWT Affirmative Action Hiring Policy

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Yellowknife South

Bob McLeod

Minister of Human Resources

We’ve been working on a territorial-wide system when we calculate our statistics. We haven’t looked at having a representative public service in every community. I think if you look at Yellowknife, probably the percentage of Aboriginal people in Yellowknife are probably, I don’t know if it’s 16 percent but it’s probably not that high. That’s a different approach to calculating our employment statistics.

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Question 476-16(5): GNWT Affirmative Action Hiring Policy

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Question 477-16(5): Eligibility For Seniors Home Heating Subsidy

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to ask the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment questions on the seniors home heating subsidy that I raised earlier in my Member’s statement. One of the issues I had was when an elder had applied and the issue was that her daughter was staying with her and couldn’t get her income tax assessment and the alternative is to find another means for her to declare that she didn’t work the previous year. What avenues can we look at that situation?

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Question 477-16(5): Eligibility For Seniors Home Heating Subsidy

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . The honourable Minister responsible for Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Lafferty .

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Question 477-16(5): Eligibility For Seniors Home Heating Subsidy

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. This has been brought to our attention within my department and we did raise this issue in the House yesterday. I’ve committed in the House that I’d like my department to look at this area and how we get around it so that the elders are not penalized. We talked about the residence issues where individuals may be there for short periods of time. We also talked about other areas where elders are probably 90 years old and more, and how we can get around the system. I will follow through with this within my department.

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Question 477-16(5): Eligibility For Seniors Home Heating Subsidy

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Another issue is who determines who lives in the household. Another instance of where the nephew comes in two or three times a month and not every month and they’re saying that he’s actually a resident of that house. I need the definition of a resident, because I don’t believe that’s residency at all. I’d like to ask the Minister if the department will look at that or at least provide me with a definition of residency.

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Question 477-16(5): Eligibility For Seniors Home Heating Subsidy

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

That would include us looking at the whole issue about the seniors home heating subsidy. When we talk about the residents, these individuals where they sleep and eat. These individuals have been considered that they’re staying at their grandparents’ place. Those are areas that have been brought to our attention that they don’t actually live there. We need to look at the policy itself.

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Question 477-16(5): Eligibility For Seniors Home Heating Subsidy

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Those two issues, I’d certainly like to follow up with the Minister. He spoke about reviewing the Income Support Policy. Is it specific to the seniors home heating subsidy or else is it the whole income support programming that they have? Thank you.

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Question 477-16(5): Eligibility For Seniors Home Heating Subsidy

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, with any request that comes forward to our attention, we do look at our policies and we make changes to the effect where it benefits the communities. This is an area respecting the seniors fuel subsidy. I made a commitment to look at that piece of work. Mahsi.

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Question 477-16(5): Eligibility For Seniors Home Heating Subsidy

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Final supplementary, Mr. Menicoche .

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Question 477-16(5): Eligibility For Seniors Home Heating Subsidy

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

I certainly support a review of the program guidelines and criteria. I think what people were really saying to me is there’s got to be some flexibility when you’re evaluating this criteria and not