Debates of March 1st, 2006

This is page numbers 1461 - 1494 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was chairman .

Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

Motion To Elect Acting Speaker

Increased Hours Of Highway Maintenance Operations

Recognition Of Arctic Winter Games Athletes

Medical Travel Policies And Procedures

Dene Hand Games In Behchoko

Achievements And Challenges Of Canadian Women

Wages And Benefits For Non-government Organizations' Workers

Highway Investment In The Nahendeh Region

Hook Lake Bison Project

Transportation Infrastructure Needs Of Communities

"drop The Pop" Campaign

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Wages And Benefits For Non-government Organizations' Workers

School Transportation Services

Transportation Infrastructure Needs Of Communities

GNWT Position For Supporting Diamond Industry

Medical Travel Policies And Procedures

Need For Immediate Alternative Housing Solutions

Municipal Electoral Reform

Resource Revenue Sharing And Post-devolution Plans

Written Question 37-15(4): "drop The Pop" Campaign

Tabled Document 102-15(4): 2006-2009 GNWT Business Plans

Tabled Document 103-15(4): List Of Inter-activity Transfers Exceeding $250,000 For The Period April 1, 2005, To December 31, 2005

Tabled Document 104-15(4): GNWT 2004 Public Service Annual Report

Tabled Document 105-15(4): Transportation Of Dangerous Goods Act 2005 Annual Report

Tabled Document 106-15(4): 2004-2005 Community Initiatives Program Annual Report

Tabled Document 107-15(4): Package Of Correspondence Regarding Ywca Contribution Agreement

Item 16: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Item 17: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Bill 12:

An Act To Amend The Territorial Court Act

Bill 15: Court Security Act

Bill 18: Appropriation Act, 2006-2007

Bill 20:

An Act To Amend The Income Tax Act, No. 2

Item 19: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Honourable Brendan Bell , Mr. Braden , Honourable Charles Dent , Honourable Joe Handley , Mr. Hawkins , Honourable David Krutko , Mr. Lafferty , Ms. Lee , Honourable Michael McLeod , Mr. McLeod, Mr. Menicoche , Honourable Michael Miltenberger , Mr. Pokiak , Mr. Ramsay , Honourable Floyd Roland , Mr. Villeneuve , Mr. Yakeleya

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

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Clerk Of The House

Mr. Tim Mercer

Members, it is my duty to advise the House of the unavoidable absence of both our Honourable Speaker and Deputy Speaker. Pursuant to

section 48 of the Legislative Assembly and Executive Council Act, I will now entertain a motion to appoint an acting Speaker. Mr. Menicoche .

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Motion To Elect Acting Speaker, Carried

Item 1: Prayer

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

I move, seconded by Honourable Charles Dent , Member for Frame Lake , that we appoint Mr. Dave Ramsay, Member for Kam Lake , as Speaker for the day.

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Motion To Elect Acting Speaker, Carried

Item 1: Prayer

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Clerk Of The House

Mr. Tim Mercer

The motion is in order. To the motion.

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Motion To Elect Acting Speaker, Carried

Item 1: Prayer

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Some Hon. Members

Question.

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Motion To Elect Acting Speaker, Carried

Item 1: Prayer

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Clerk Of The House

Mr. Tim Mercer

All those in favour? All those opposed? I will now ask Mr. Ramsay to assume the chair as Acting Speaker.

---Carried

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Motion To Elect Acting Speaker, Carried

Item 1: Prayer

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The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Thank you, colleagues. I am honoured to assume the chair as your Speaker today. Unfortunately, it's under sad circumstances that I do so. On behalf of all Members, I offer my thoughts and prayers to Mr. Delorey , Mrs. Groenewegen and their families during these difficult days. As your acting Speaker, I will do my best to advance the business of the House in an efficient manner, and apply the rules of the House in a fair and impartial way. We are near the end of a rather long sitting of this House and I will ask all Members to please continue to treat one another with respect and dignity.

We will now proceed to the orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers' statements. The Honourable Michael McLeod .

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Minister's Statement 87-15(4): Increased Hours Of Highway Maintenance Operations

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there has been ongoing growth in private and commercial vehicle use due to resource development. The climate is warming and bringing more precipitation and more variable weather patterns. Our transportation infrastructure is aging. The severity of each of these factors is expected to increase into the future. These factors are forcing the department to increase the operation and maintenance efforts.

Mr. Speaker in the past, the department's own maintenance forces worked a standard 40-hour week, Monday through Friday. Maintenance requirements occurring in the evenings or on weekends were expensive as employees were paid overtime rates. It was always a challenge to respond in a timely and cost-effective manner.

To solve these challenges, the department has restructured its own force operations and changed the standard operation to a 12 hours per day, seven days per week. I would personally like to thank the Department of Transportation employees for their hard work and flexibility to accommodate these changes.

Mr. Speaker, this change in operations will result in dramatic improvement in road conditions during the winter months when adverse weather conditions are combined with increased commercial truck activity. This will make the highway system safer for all users. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 87-15(4): Increased Hours Of Highway Maintenance Operations

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Colleagues, I would like to direct your attention to the presence in the visitors' gallery today of Martin Cronin, the British Consul General.

---Applause

With him as well is Ms. Carmen Moore, chief of protocol. Welcome to our proceedings.

---Applause

Members' statements. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Recognition Of Arctic Winter Games Athletes

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This year's Arctic Winter Games are about to get underway later this week and I wanted to take this opportunity to congratulate all the athletes, the staff, the volunteers who will be travelling to Alaska representing the NWT.

In particular, I would like to recognize a number of constituents from Yellowknife Centre who have committed themselves to the game and the spirit of competition. Mr. Speaker, I am going to name all the athletes: Laurell Graf, badminton team coach; Michael Callas, junior male basketball; Alexander Hopkins, midget male cross-country skiing; Peggy MacConnell, hockey; Jordon Balint, midget hockey; Kelsey MacDougall, intermediate female soccer; Hope Charpentier, junior female soccer; Chi Nguyen, juvenile female soccer; Dustan Curtis, juvenile male

soccer; Ian MacDougall, junior male speedskating; Marie-Christine Auge, juvenile female speedskating; and, Stephanie Bourgois, juvenile female speedskating.

Mr. Speaker, these individuals, along with the entire NWT Team, will represent us and I am sure will make us all proud. I have every confidence in their abilities and their sportsmanship attitude. Mr. Speaker, I would like to congratulate them and wish them all good luck, as well as the whole team, in Kenai, Alaska. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Recognition Of Arctic Winter Games Athletes

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . The honourable Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes , Mr. McLeod.

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Medical Travel Policies And Procedures

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, recent events regarding a resident of Inuvik, who was travelling to Yellowknife for medical reasons, has lead me to question how patients are cared for when they arrive in Yellowknife. Is there any communication, Mr. Speaker, between the regions and Yellowknife as to what the patients are coming down for, and why do we have to put them in taxis? Is there not a boarding home van to pick the patients up, or was it after 5:00 p.m.? We cannot allow this to happen, Mr. Speaker. Why does the authorization have to come out of Yellowknife? Is this government's idea of decentralization, or does it just apply to moving from one location to another in Yellowknife?

Mr. Speaker, travel authorization escorts should be made at the regional level. They should know the medical history of the patients and whether they require an escort or not. A case in point, Mr. Speaker, a patient just came down from the Beaufort-Delta recently for surgery. The doctor informed her she should have an escort because she will need help getting back to her place that she's staying at in town here. Luckily, a relative of hers was in town and agreed to wait so she can take care of her when she's done.

Mr. Speaker, when I get older and may need medical travel, I am going to ask my family to throw me in the back of a transport truck and ship me south because I am afraid of the treatment I may get here.

Mr. Speaker, the patient was a mother and a grandmother and, sadly, her family had to lay her to rest. I think we let them down, Mr. Speaker, and let's not let that happen again.

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Some Hon. Members

Hear! Hear!

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Medical Travel Policies And Procedures

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Members' statements. The honourable Member for Monfwi, Mr. Lafferty .

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Dene Hand Games In Behchoko

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Jackson Lafferty

North Slave

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. (Translation) Mr. Speaker, throughout the session, I have been speaking mostly about one issue, which is our Dene languages and culture. Mr. Speaker, today I would like to highlight some things that are going to be happening in Behchoko.

During their meeting, they are going to have a hand game tournament. The tournament will be happening this weekend and people from all communities, from Behchoko, Whati, Tulita, Gameti, Wekweeti, Deline, Lutselk'e and also from Meander River communities will be coming to Behchoko to try out in this tournament. Sometimes some of the teams will be coming from each community, some bringing more than one team. So there are still more people signing up for the tournament. It's going to be from Friday to Sunday and also, Mr. Speaker, this kind of cultural activity is very important for our people.

This kind of activity has been happening for many years. They are not only going to come together because of the prize money, but also to be involved and coming together as brotherhood and celebrating who we are as Dene people. Some of these people have not seen each other for many years.

As for the Tlicho people, we are proud of our Dene ways. On behalf of the Tlicho people, I would like to invite Members of the Legislative Assembly to participate in this gathering. We would like to see you in our community to share in our culture and tradition. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Mahsi, Mr. Lafferty . We have the honourable Member for Range Lake , Ms. Lee .

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Achievements And Challenges Of Canadian Women

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I wish to speak about women's achievements in various fields, especially in politics and sports. Mr. Speaker, yesterday in one of the meetings in the back room, one of my male colleagues suggested that I should stop being so anti-male. Obviously this is a highly offensive statement, but I am used to that in the world of politics. But it did get me to start dreaming about what it would be like if the Cabinet across the floor were made up of all women instead of all men. I am sure all of my questions and objections to what they are doing or not doing would not be considered as being anti-male.

Of course, if there were nine women and two men on this side of the floor, I wondered how one of them would feel if accused of being anti-female for simply doing his job. Mr. Speaker, this speaks to a much larger issue of the ever-decreasing rate of women's representation in Canadian legislatures. In fact, with the recent federal election, once a leader, Canada now ranks 46th in the world, behind the even newly elected Legislature of Afghanistan. Of course, right here at home, we continue to have two women out of 19 Members and we have the dubious distinction of owning the only Cabinet in Canada without women.

On a hopeful note, Mr. Speaker, everywhere I go in the North, I see strong and able women leaders doing fantastic jobs in all communities and it is my fervent hope that more of them will join us in this House in the near future.

Mr. Speaker, it is also comforting to know that this is not par for the course in the outside world. When I was at Dalhousie Law School, between 1994 and 1997, my second year was the first time where there were more women law students than men and we definitely see women taking up a larger space of lawyers' and doctors' offices, and engineering, and many other fields in our community.

What about our women Olympians, Mr. Speaker? Not only do we have our very own Sharon and Shirley Firth of Guts to Glory to celebrate, but our newest women Olympians brought us two-thirds of all the medals won. They brought us a gold medal the first day and the last day, the most medals won by any Canadian Olympian of all times and the only hockey goal of the games, Mr. Speaker.

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Achievements And Challenges Of Canadian Women

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Some Hon. Members

Hear! Hear!

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Achievements And Challenges Of Canadian Women

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Mr. Speaker, what this shows me is if we can just work through the manmade barriers, women will always achieve in spectacular fashion for the entire country and mankind.

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Achievements And Challenges Of Canadian Women

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The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Thank you, Ms. Lee . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Great Slave , Mr. Braden .

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Wages And Benefits For Non-government Organizations' Workers

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Bill Braden

Great Slave

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. In the last two days, Mr. Speaker, the issue of parity or at least some degree of fairness in wages and benefits for NGOs that deliver programs on behalf of our government has been a bit of a topic here. It's interesting to note some evolution in that issue, Mr. Chairman. I would quote from Hansard of February 23rd from a comment that the Honourable Michael Miltenberger , Minister of Health and Social Services , said in regard to a question about wage parity. The Hansard record says of the Minister, "I don't recollect when the time was that there was automatic increases given.

It must have been in another century because it's not clear in my present memory when that was. "

Mr. Chairman, I would also like to quote briefly from a letter, correspondence received from the executive director of the YWCA. She offers correspondence from July 13, 2001. This may or may not have been under Mr. Miltenberger 's watch as this Minister in the previous Assembly, but it is very illuminating to see that this letter advises that, "With the Department of Health and Social Services' assistance, we have been successful in obtaining additional funding to provide a 3.8 and 2.5 percent increase in salaries and a two percent increase in O and M. We are pleased to be able to provide some financial recognition for the important work your staff carries out in the community."

Mr. Speaker, from what the Minister said a few days ago and what came forward under the Yellowknife Health and Social Services authority directly attributing the department's willingness to support our NGOs, there is a considerable difference in the Minister's statement and position and what this department has actually done. I am going to be asking him to account for that difference when we get to question period. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Wages And Benefits For Non-government Organizations' Workers

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The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Braden . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Highway Investment In The Nahendeh Region

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I drive on the beautiful Nahendeh highways frequently for business and pleasure. One of my favourite songs is On the Road Again by Willie Nelson. However, I am not playing that song very often as our gravel roads continue to deteriorate quickly during the summer months. Today, in my constituency, many people are participating in Ash Wednesday, marking the beginning of Lent where it is a common practice to give up something or actively make the world a better place. These are the values I try to use every day while representing the Nahendeh.

Will the Minister commit to enhancing the transportation infrastructure in Nahendeh, especially chipsealing Highway No. 1 and No. 7?

This government has developed a Tourism Strategy and transportation that must be included. Tourism dollars are valuable and cannot be taken for granted. Every year, the communities in the region, or territorial government, must actively and creatively initiate aggressive tourism projects to ensure tourism activity. This is directly tied to economic development.

There was a press release on the Tourism Strategy on February 27th called, Tourism 2010. This is a $15 million commitment by this government to help build tourism. Five key areas had been identified. However, according to my research, nothing had been earmarked for highway improvements. There is a gap as it fails to address the road system that our tourism needs. We must continue and accelerate the plans to chipseal Highway No. 1 and No. 7. This would not only improve the condition and safety of our highways, but also encourage tourism in a badly needed region. Safety is a primary concern of this government.

As economic activity increases, so too must the resources to ensure our highways are maintained adequately and safely.

As expressed during my oral questions on Monday, tourism is a word of mouth industry, Mr. Speaker. Other regions in Canada with similar attributes get hundreds of thousands of visitors a year. I believe so can we. The completion of a chipseal Deh Cho trail is critical to this objective, Mr. Speaker.

In closing, our highways are a key to entrenching the tourism future for all residents. Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker.

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Highway Investment In The Nahendeh Region

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The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Mahsi, Mr. Menicoche . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe , Mr. Villeneuve .

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Hook Lake Bison Project

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Robert Villeneuve

Tu Nedhe

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, caribou management has been a topic of great importance to me of late, but equally important to my constituents is the issue of bison management.

Mr. Speaker, the Hook Lake bison recovery project has been providing food and employment opportunities to my constituents since its conception. The Deninu Kue residents do not want to see this project come to a sad and sudden end, especially after many years of active community participation and the gathering of scientific

research this project has provided this government with in order to better manage our wildlife.

Mr. Speaker, the Deninu Kue residents will be meeting with the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources tomorrow to discuss the fate of this project, but it seems that it has been communicated to me that the fate of the Hook Lake Bison Recovery Program has already been sealed without the consent or consultation of the community members.

Mr. Speaker, I hope this is not the case. I look forward to the Minister's visit tomorrow in which we can find and look for some direction to an agreeable, cooperative approach to our -- and I stress our, Mr. Speaker -- bison management plan that the community can agree to and cooperate with. Thank you.

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Hook Lake Bison Project

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The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Mahsi, Mr. Villeneuve . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Nunakput , Mr. Pokiak .

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Transportation Infrastructure Needs Of Communities

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Calvin Pokiak

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My Member's statement today will be on the vehicle gravel materials to maintain the roads, driveways and build the necessary building pads for the further development in the community of Tuktoyaktuk.

Mr. Speaker, because the closest gravel source is not accessible by an all-weather road, the hamlet and community contractors have to wait until the winter months to build up their stockpiles for the upcoming years. With so many unknowns on the pace of development, the Tuktoyaktuk planning committee has identified and need for ready access to a gravel source.

Mr. Speaker, I have to wonder about our government where the Department of Justice can just get about $3 million in the 2006-07 Main Estimates to begin work on the courthouse in Yellowknife, but, yet, Municipal and Community Affairs has only identified a meagre $250,000 to address gravel materials for all of the communities in the Northwest Territories; peanuts for infrastructure in communities and millions for Yellowknife.

Mr. Speaker, Cabinet and the deputy minister in the capital planning should give serious considerations to the infrastructure needs of the communities. A need for gravel materials for roads, water access service and landfills are crucial to the safety of all residents and communities. This government should work with the Inuvialuit Land Administration to gain year-round access to gravel source 177 which is only 22 kilometres from the community of Tuktoyaktuk. Opening up gravel source 177 will address Tuktoyaktuk's gravel needs for a number of years.

I am concerned that, with the coming of the pipeline, the needs of the industry will take the priority over the infrastructure needs of the communities.

Mr. Speaker, in closing, I would like to encourage this government to enter into a dialogue with Inuvialuit Land Administration and the hamlet to secure the gravel source for the future of Tuktoyaktuk. Funding will also be required for the community of Tuktoyaktuk to secure the rights to this gravel source. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Pokiak . Members' statements. The honourable Member for the Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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"drop The Pop" Campaign

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in the news I read that the North of 60, there was a territorial challenge by the Nunavut government called, Drop the Pop campaign that will begin on March 27th to March 31st. It is challenging the Yukon government, the territorial government here in the Northwest Territories and also the Nunavut government. It is based on a creative concept in Nunavut. It is about having the communities and the schools avoid drinking pop for one full week. Again, this challenge went out to the two other territories.

It is to create awareness for the schools in the communities about the dangers of drinking pop in the people's lives. It is to promote a healthy lifestyle for the young people and also for the community.

Also, Mr. Speaker, there is funding available, I understand, to provide for communities and schools in terms of types of incentive that could have as children drop the pop for a whole week. Also, there is funding for participation in this challenge here. I look forward to the Minister laying out some type of strategy or some type of announcement for these school kids or communities to take

part in this challenge as the Northwest Territories, like any other territory, certainly loves a good challenge, especially with our family territories across the Northwest Territories.

Mr. Speaker, I think this is a worthwhile challenge. There are many other friendly issues that we could challenge each other on different areas of issues that we have faced with the North. I look forward to the Minister in terms of releasing an announcement on the type of support and incentive that we could come up to the challenge and look at the results when this challenge is finished.

Mr. Speaker, I look forward again to the Minister's strategy in terms of having a challenge for the Yukon and Nunavut governments. Thank you.

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Mahsi, Mr. Yakeleya . Returns to oral questions. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Frame Lake , Mr. Dent .

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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Page 1464

Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to recognize a constituent of mine, Barb Wyness with the UNW, in the gallery.

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Page 1464

The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Dent . Recognition of visitors in the gallery. I would also like to say hello to Ms. Gayla Wick from the UNW, as well. Welcome, ladies, to the proceedings.

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Thank you, Members. Oral questions. Mr. Braden .

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Question 490-15(4): Wages And Benefits For Non-government Organizations' Workers

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1465

Bill Braden

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question this morning is for Mr. Miltenberger , the Minister of Health and Social Services, and it refers to the issue of making sure that the non-government organizations that we partner with receive a realistic pay and benefit package for their staff, something which we have lost a lot of ground on. Mr. Speaker, a few days ago, the Minister said that he didn't recall when there was a time when automatic increases were given, and yet I have correspondence from the Yellowknife Health and Social Services Board dating back a couple years now, Mr.

Speaker, to July of 2001, in which salary increments were put forward to the YWCA through the Department of Health and Social Services' assistance. This was done, and I quote from the letter, "to provide some financial recognition for the important work your staff carries out in communities." Mr. Speaker, how can the Minister account for this written acknowledgement of the significance of the work that NGOs do and his own recollection of just a few days ago when automatic increases were not given? Mr. Speaker.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Braden . The honourable Minister Miltenberger .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1465

Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this issue is one where there has not been consistency in the past. My account for not being aware of this information is due to, in all probability, my memory and not being aware of that particular detail. I do know that there is no annual increase to NGOs that are built in as forced growth. I know that the concern from women's shelters, from every other organization that I have talked to, has been that often their budgets have been pegged at a certain level as they haven't seen any increases for salaries, cost of doing business or anything.

In this case, the YWCA was fortunate; but the reality is that we don't have an ongoing method to build it into our budgets at this point. Thank you.

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The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . Supplementary, Mr. Braden .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1465

Bill Braden

Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, I believe we do have a way of building something like this into our ongoing budget. It is called forced growth. We do it all the time. We are going to be dealing with it later on today, I believe, when we consider the supplementary appropriation bill. This is something that I would be very much in support of considering if the Minister's department or, in fact, others that deal with NGOs, feel that it could be warranted, to offer our partner NGOs an increment for salary and wages. Would the Minister consider using forced growth as a way of providing these NGOs with some wage and benefit parody, Mr. Speaker?

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1465

The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Braden . Mr. Miltenberger .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1465

Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I have indicated previously in this session and in this House, the government has developed a third-party accountability framework that is giving us a way to put a frame around this particular issue, recognizing the important work that the NGOs are doing and classifying them in different categories. The key number one category being that if the NGO does not provide the service, would the government have to provide it on their own with their own resources?

As I indicated previously in this House, we are working on lists collectively that we can bring forward that would classify the NGOs that currently do business for us, in this case, Health and Social Services, to make the case that they be given that consideration on an ongoing basis within that third-party accountability framework. Thank you.

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Page 1465

The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . Final supplementary, Mr. Braden .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1465

Bill Braden

Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, does the third-party accountability framework specifically, absolutely include NGOs like the YWCA? Does it capture those organizations within the intent and the purpose of the policy? Or does it only apply to those agencies such as Health and Social Services authorities, local housing authorities, district education boards, those ones that are directly mandated? I am trying to find out, Mr. Speaker, does our policy take that extra step to include NGOs that are not statutory creations of this government? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1465

The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Braden . Mr. Miltenberger .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1465

Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The third-party accountability framework is designed to be able to recognize the work of NGOs. The health authorities, the DEAs are considered employees. They have collective agreements. They are part of our budgeting process. NGOs currently, in terms of when it comes to forced growth and other issues, are not. This third-party accountability was designed specifically due to the recognition of the fact by the government that this is an area that we would have to be able to better define so that we can address appropriately. Thank you.

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Page 1465

The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Thank you, Minister Miltenberger . Oral questions. The honourable Member for Monfwi, Mr. Lafferty .

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Question 491-15(4): School Transportation Services

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1465

Jackson Lafferty

North Slave

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker...(Translation) I spoke on something very important yesterday which was the safety of the children and transporting them to their school. I talked about bussing. (Translation ends)

...from the isolated communities. The words I am sharing today are not my words, Mr. Speaker. These are the

words of our respected elders in the communities. They want this territorial government to deal with this public safety that I addressed yesterday and today. The Department of ECE and divisional boards' responsibility is to ensure the safety of our young school children. They need to go to school safely, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, a question to the Minister of ECE is, what measures has the department taken into consideration to ensure bussing for isolated communities such as Wekweeti, Gameti and Whati as this year's capital projects? Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Mahsi, Mr. Lafferty . The honourable Member for ECE, Mr. Dent .

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The department has no program for providing capital for buses to DECs. We provide money for transportation as part of the grant that we provide to DECs and agencies like the Tlicho Community Services Agency. It is up to those agencies to determine how transportation is provided. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Dent . Supplementary, Mr. Lafferty .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jackson Lafferty

North Slave

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. As the Minister indicated, funding does consist of bussing if need be in the communities. Again, Mr. Speaker, I would like to stress that, with the current funding to Tlicho Community Services Agency, it is stretched as it is with no flexibility to contract out or purchase a school bus, Mr. Speaker. There is absolutely no room, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, can the Minister commit in this House to invest in school transportation as part of the additional funding so there is no impact on the current funding that is geared towards providing core subjects, cultural and language programs and inclusive schooling? Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Mahsi, Mr. Lafferty . Mr. Dent .

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In the budget that has been considered in this House, there is no money that would be specifically allocated for that purpose. It is entirely up to the Tlicho Community Services Agency to determine if that is one of their priorities. If it is, then it is their responsibility to take the money out of their regular programming and put it into transportation. They have the right and the responsibility to do that. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Dent . Final supplementary, Mr. Lafferty .

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Page 1466

Jackson Lafferty

North Slave

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, again, I would like to stress that, with the new information on the decline of caribou herd that we have heard last week and related increase of wolves and grizzlies in the isolated communities in my region, I would like to ask the Minister again if he will be willing to revamp or look into some sort of amendment to supplement the current funding available to the Tlicho Community Services Agency to ensure something as simple as transportation services are available to isolated communities such as Gameti, Wekweeti, and Whati, and the basic need for our safety of our children is met? Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Mahsi, Mr. Lafferty . Mr. Dent .

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If there is a concern for safety for the children in those communities, then it is incumbent on the DEAs and the Tlicho Community Services Agency to deal with that issue. Either they need to work with parents to make sure that somebody is walking with the children to school to make sure that they are safe, or they need to find some way to provide that transportation. But, Mr. Speaker, all of the money that we have within the department for schooling goes to schools. We don't keep any money available for other special projects. So right now, all of the money is being distributed.

The money that has been approved in the budget for the next year is allocated to the DECs. There is no pot of money that I can draw on in order to provide extraordinary services. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Dent . Oral questions. The honourable Member for Nunakput , Mr. Pokiak .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1466

Calvin Pokiak

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In my Member's statement today, I spoke of the need for the community of Tuktoyaktuk to secure access for the gravel located at source 177. Without a steady year-round source of gravel, Tuktoyaktuk will have a problem meeting their infrastructure needs. We understand that the Department of Transportation has plans for a road to gravel source 177, so that physical access to part of the problem is being addressed. Mr. Speaker, what needs to be addressed is the right of the community to use the granular source that belongs to the ILA, Inuvialuit Land Administration.

Can the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs tell this Assembly what his department can do to assist the hamlet of Tuktoyaktuk in securing the necessary funds to access gravel source 177? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1466

The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Pokiak . The honourable Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs , Mr. McLeod.

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Mr. Speaker, the gravel revolving stockpile fund was wound down in 1999. Investment for gravel requirements have been built into the municipal community government budgets. In the case of Tuktoyaktuk, there are no specific projects that we can point to at this point. I don't have any listed that require gravel. We don't have any plans to bring any stockpile into that community either from the Department of Transportation or from MACA. Having said that, there is a need across the Territories for assistance to look at

the issue of gravel. We are working with other departments to put together a gravel study. We hope to have that completed. We are working with the Public Works department. The Housing Corporation and Municipal and Community Affairs and DOT are working together to try to come to deal with some of the issues that are coming forward from some of the communities. That study will be ready this spring. In terms of actual projects for gravel required in Tuktoyaktuk, there is none identified in our capital plan.

We have a gravel fund of $250,000 that we provide to communities if there are additional requirements needed over and above what is built into the community government plan, and there was no request from that community for this fund. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Supplementary, Mr. Pokiak .

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Calvin Pokiak

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am still disappointed that there is no money identified for Tuktoyaktuk for gravel all this winter. As you well know, Mr. Speaker, Tuktoyaktuk is well known for the erosion problems that they are having. In terms of stockpiling, I think that is important that the department identify that Tuktoyaktuk should be of necessary needs to address right away. I would like to ask the Minister again, under the $250,000, how much of that...I know he said there is no money identified with Tuktoyaktuk, but can some of that money go towards Tuktoyaktuk? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Pokiak . Minister McLeod .

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, no. The money in the $250,000 is application based. That money has already been committed. We have six communities that have applied for this money. They have been approved. That money has already been committed for this year. Tuktoyaktuk did not put in an application for this community revolving fund of $250,000. Thank you.

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The Acting Speaker

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Thank you, Minister McLeod . Final supplementary, Mr. Pokiak .

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Calvin Pokiak

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Again, I will voice my disappointment, but again, this winter is the only time that Tuktoyaktuk can access gravel haul from source 177. If the Minister is able to find money like he did for other projects like in previous years for the Executive, or able to find money from elsewhere, if there is any money that can be found to access the gravel haul, will he consider Tuktoyaktuk as one of the priorities for gravel haul? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you, Mr. Pokiak . Minister McLeod .

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in order for us to, as a government, consider a gravel stockpile and to bring in equipment or to contract that out, we need to have specific projects. I recognize the Member's need to work towards building a road system to the source of gravel. It is a problem for the community of Tuktoyaktuk. We recognize that. There has been a large request for a large contribution from the community that we have considered. We are not able to accommodate it. We have continued to realize that there is a need for a reliable source.

However, in order to have a stockpile program, we have to have the projects that either Public Works brings forward or the Housing Corporation brings forward, or MACA, for that matter. They bring these things forward. We will take that into consideration and look at doing a winter haul. At this point, there are no projects in the community that we have identified for this fiscal year. We are not looking at doing a gravel haul. We continue to work with the federal government in our requests for additional money to build a road to the source 177.

We have to, once again, meet with the federal government to discuss our plans to bring forward a list of our needs in that area. We hope to do that this spring. Hopefully, we will have some firmer answers for the Member in the near future. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you, Minister McLeod . Oral questions. The honourable Member for Range Lake , Ms. Lee .

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Question 493-15(4): GNWT Position For Supporting Diamond Industry

Item 6: Oral Questions

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my questions today go to the Minister of ITI . Earlier in this session -- and we have been sitting here for almost a month -- there were some questions about the discussions that need to be held between the secondary diamond industry companies and the diamond producer. The Minister made a commitment to bring them together to see if their differences could be worked out. I would like to know, as we are about to leave this House and we are not going to sit until June, I wondered if the Minister could update this House as to where we are on that file. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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David Ramsay

Thank you, Ms. Lee . The honourable Brendan Bell , the Minister of ITI .

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Brendan Bell

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The dispute between one of the mines and one of the cutting and polishing operations has been ongoing for some time now. I do know that, in Antwerp, the two parties met to try to work through these issues and resolve them. I don't have a full briefing in terms of exactly what was determined at that meeting. I do know from one of the sides that part of the ask raised some concerns about being able to, or the desire of the factory, to take some of the rough that wasn't economic to polish in the Northwest Territories and move it offshore.

Obviously, our policy as a government is that this is a problem for us, so we want to better understand what they are asking, Mr. Speaker. But I haven't sat down with the two parties yet. I will

endeavour to do so as soon as we are out of the House. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you, Mr. Bell . Supplementary, Ms. Lee .

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think I am going to have to ask the Minister to be more forthcoming on exactly what his approach is and where this government stands on this issue. This government is not exactly a bystander on this file. This government has invested a lot of money and the well being of this cutting and polishing plant has many implications for us. I do understand. I don't even want to call this a dispute. I see that there is a disagreement. I know this is a disagreement between two commercial companies. I want to respect their place in sorting that out, but I am still not clear.

I do believe there is a role for the Minister to play. Has the Minister given a thought to this file? What is his approach going to be for the next little while to resolve this issue? Thank you.

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Brendan Bell

Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, we are going to bring the two parties together to try to work to some resolution. It is difficult for me to get into the nuances here and the intricacies of the disagreement, but I have, from the mine at least, the assertion that what was being asked for at the meeting in Antwerp was the ability to take some of the rough they weren't able to cut and polish here, what they deemed uneconomic, and move it offshore to a lower-cost cutting centre.

That has always, from a policy perspective, been a problem for our government because today, what is uneconomic, tomorrow may be twice that amount that is deemed uneconomic. We would have to have some objective way to assess that. It gives us problems. We see it as the thin edge of the wedge and could potentially lead to the downfall of the local industry here. So we work very hard to get an allocation of rough for the local industry here. We want to make sure it's there. We don't have the interest of seeing that rough move offshore. Mr. Speaker, obviously, it's very complicated.

I will sit with the two parties and try to work through the issue, but that gives you some sense of what we're grappling with. Thank you.

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Thank you, Minister Bell . Final supplementary, Ms. Lee .

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just wanted to say, for the record, that I respect the contribution that both sides do make to our city and our territory. I appreciate we want to make them work and we want them both to prosper. Mr. Speaker, however, in talking to both parties -- and I've had an occasion to talk to them -- I'm not sure if at least one party, anyway, understands that this is an issue that the government has any place in. So I'd like to know what specifically he's going to do to make sure that we are a party to that. We have a great deal of interest in the success of both industries.

Could he be more specific about when his next meeting might be and what kind of communication has he had so far with both sides, he's only speaking about one side. Thank you.

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Thank you, Ms. Lee . Minister Bell .

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Brendan Bell

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I know that my departmental officials have been in discussions with both parties. We are going to work to set up a meeting so that we can sit down and go through the myriad of issues. As I've said, it's very nuance. I can't get into what this government will do if and when we start going through some hypothetical scenarios. We think and we are optimistic that we can arrive at an agreeable solution. We think both parties recognize the interest that the GNWT has in seeing this resolved, and we do think there is a commitment on the part of both parties to make this work going forward.

So once we are done here in the House, I will sit down with my officials, we will try to set a meeting with the two parties. Obviously, some of them are overseas, so one of the things we have to do is work out schedules and make a determination around where it's easiest to meet. If they were all in Yellowknife, it would be very easy to do, but it's not, Mr. Speaker. So I'll work on that and hopefully we should be able to get a meeting within the month, the month of March. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you, Minister Bell . Oral questions. The honourable Member from Inuvik Twin Lakes , Mr. McLeod.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'm not questioning the medical care that patients receive once they get to the hospital. You know, we have one of the best medical systems in the world. But my colleagues and I, and it's an argument that we've had for a long time, it's the actual getting to the hospital

part is where we have concerns with. My understanding is that the authorization now for medical travel is made out of Yellowknife, referred to by Inuvik. So I'd like to ask the Minister of Health and Social Services , where did this direction come from to authorize medical travel out of Yellowknife and take it out of the regions? Thank you.

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The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Minister responsible for Health and Social Services , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It came from me. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. McLeod.

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

So the authorization came from the Minister, he states. So I'd like to know, who gave the Minister his direction. Did he consult with the regions? I think that to say the decision came from him, I'd like to

ask, then, who did the Minister get his direction from? Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Minister Miltenberger .

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the rationale for that decision was based on efficiencies; it was based on the need for coordination; it was based on the fact that we found out at one point, a year or so ago, that we had paid for over 1,800 bed days in Capital Health out in Edmonton for services that could have been provided out of Stanton, because without the coordination that we currently have in place, Stanton was routinely overflown as a result of referrals made by the different authorities and the different communities. This was part of our review of how we do business.

We were working with the senior managers, the board chairs from all the authorities, and one of the directions that came out of that and that I approved and agreed to was the need to coordinate travel in the North and South to make sure that we used our facilities to the best possible way and we didn't pay twice for services that we already have. Thank you.

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Thank you, Minister Miltenberger . Final supplementary, Mr. McLeod.

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thanks to the Minister for a little clearer answer. I agree with the Minister that coordination is a big part of it. I wasn't questioning sending the patients south to the city, my questions were based on sending people to Yellowknife and that seems to be where there's a real lack of communication, Mr. Speaker. Too many people are being left out in the cold when they get to Yellowknife. They're sitting at the airport for three hours. We can talk for hours on the stories we hear.

So I'd like to ask the Minister of Health and Social Services to demand his department improve the lines of communication so we don't have elders sitting at the airport waiting out in the cold. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Mr. Miltenberger .

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate and note the Member's concern, and I want to assure the Member that we work every day to try to make sure we provide the highest level of service possible. When there are circumstances that happen where the systems may not have worked appropriately, we backtrack on those and we try to take the steps necessary to make sure that, in fact, services are provided. I would like to point out that, yes, there are times when things don't work and those are unfortunate, but the vast majority of time, medical travel works in a good, efficient way.

But in the cases like the one the Member's mentioned, we are looking at it to make sure that while we can't change the past, that we learn from it and try to improve service for the future. Thank you.

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Thank you, Minister Miltenberger . Oral questions. The honourable Member from Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Question 495-15(4): Need For Immediate Alternative Housing Solutions

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. My question today is for the Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation . Last week, I had the pleasure of being on the Hay River Reserve and I had a quick, brief tour of 10 two-bedroom units that they're constructing on the reserve. I thought that was a really good idea, so I just want to ask the Minister how this project came about and can we look at doing other communities, as well? Thank you.

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The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . The Honourable David Krutko , Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation .

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we do have a Loan Guarantee Program in which we were able to assist the Hay River Reserve by getting a loan through a loan guarantee where we guaranteed the loan in which they were able to borrow $1 million from the bank and build 10 units on the reserve. Again, the program is open to every organization out there. We have several of these in place with a lot of businesses, and also people in the private sector. So this program is in place; it is there to assist people in the private sector to develop housing infrastructure in the North. So it is a program we provide which is called the Loan Guarantee Program.

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to thank the Minister for that response. It's been something that the communities have been crying...Well, not crying, but they've been looking for an alternative to relieve the housing pressures immediately. I know that we've got ABCD Company that's going to provide all these thousands of homes, but it's today that people want answers for...

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Today.

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

...Mr. Speaker, and that's a good alternative. Once again, if the Minister can tell me how can the communities, for example, Fort Liard, get the process initiated for such a program of building 10 homes? Thank you.

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Hear! Hear!

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David Ramsay

Mahsi, Mr. Menicoche . Mr. Krutko .

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we have been talking to aboriginal organizations. We have a program right now in place with the Metis Land Corporation in Norman Wells. We've done

a project with them where we've built eight units, where they built four, we built four. Again, it was through a Loan Guarantee Program.

But again, we have talked to land claims organizations, band organizations, and also people in the private sector, that this program exists. I think we're hoping people will take up this program, especially where communities have lands in regards to IAB lands. I think that's one of the reserve's unique qualities, is because they have a large land base, they were able to use the land as part of their collateral, going to the bank and also being able to...(inaudible)...that loan.

Again, we are open to talking with any community organizations, bands, land claims organizations, to consider this program. It is there, again, but we are open to sitting down with anyone interested in talking. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1470

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David Ramsay

Thank you, Minister Krutko . Final supplementary, Mr. Menicoche .

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Question 495-15(4): Need For Immediate Alternative Housing Solutions

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1470

Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thanks very much, Mr. Speaker. Just in terms of financing of a program such as this, does the corporation have a set aside pool of money for this? I thought I heard him mention another organization, but what kind of cost-sharing arrangements are there, or does the...I know that the corporation has budgeted allotments for regions and per community, is this something that he's looking at taking the funds directly from there? Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Mahsi, Mr. Menicoche . Minister Krutko .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1470

David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this is a Loan Guarantee Program where we guarantee the loan of a client. They go to the bank, the bank wants some certainty that they want to be able to assured that if they give a loan, someone will basically guarantee it. So we guarantee the loans as they're approved by the banks. So that's the loan guarantee that we offer. Again, it's up to $1 million. In those cases, we work that arrangement with the banks, the individual and ourselves. Where we've offered the loan guarantee, we have a written letter. Thank you.

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Page 1470

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David Ramsay

Thank you, Minister. Oral questions. The honourable Member from Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Question 496-15(4): Municipal Electoral Reform

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1470

Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, talk of an election always seems to kind of get people interested in what's going on, and a question came to me about electoral reform on a municipal level. So I wrote an e-mail to the Minister and he did reply, but I'd like to hear what the Minister's thoughts are about any potential municipal electoral reform that will be coming in the next little while. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1470

The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . The honourable Minister responsible for Municipal and Community Affairs , Mr. McLeod.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1470

Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Mr. Speaker, the question was raised by the Member. We are planning to have that discussion with the NWT Association of Communities. There has been no formal request to have this reform take place as of yet, and we will do follow-up once that discussion takes place if there is a desire from that association to move forward on it. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1470

The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Thank you, Minister McLeod . Supplementary, Mr. Hawkins .

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Question 496-15(4): Municipal Electoral Reform

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1470

Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate that from the Minister. Mr. Speaker, the issue of mandatory reporting, mobile voting for things like people at seniors' homes and hospitals, some of those are the issues that have been drawn out through some type of electoral reform. Is the Minister saying today that we have to wait for the NWT municipalities to put forward a request for any type of electoral reform, or can he hear me today on these types of matters? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . Minister McLeod .

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Question 496-15(4): Municipal Electoral Reform

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1470

Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we have already heard from the Member; he sent us a letter. We have flagged this as an issue we'd like to discuss with the NWT Association of Communities, and I'd rather have that discussion before I make any decisions whether we're going to move forward on this issue or not. Thank you.

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Page 1470

The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Thank you, Minister McLeod . Final supplementary, Mr. Hawkins .

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Question 496-15(4): Municipal Electoral Reform

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1470

Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Well, I think really what I'm saying is if people in seniors' homes who can't get down to the voting box, or people in the hospital who are there for long-term care, may be missing out on their democratic right to vote for representatives that they feel strong about. So, Mr. Speaker, can I have the Minister commit today that they'll seriously look at that, regardless of if the municipalities are in support of this at this time or they are not in support of these types of things at this time? Can I get that commitment from the Minister that he'll look into those seriously and consider those types of reviews? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Acting Speaker

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Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . Minister McLeod .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1471

Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I will commit to having that discussion with the municipalities. Thank you.

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Page 1471

The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Thank you, Minister McLeod . Oral questions. The honourable Member for Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Question 497-15(4): Resource Revenue Sharing And Post-devolution Plans

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1471

Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is to the Premier , Premier Handley. I'd like to ask Premier Handley in terms of the territorial vision or the territorial next step in terms...For example, if we get the devolution agreement and if we get resource revenue sharing by the time this government finishes its term here, I'd like to ask the Premier what's the vision, what's the next step once we get devolution, once we get the resource revenue sharing, what's the vision? Where is the Premier leading us, Mr. Speaker?

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1471

The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Mahsi, Mr. Yakeleya . The honourable Premier , Mr. Handley .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1471

Joe Handley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The

preamble to the question really is when we get devolution, when we get resource revenues, not if. We're past that point, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the next step, once we begin to receive our fair share of resource revenues, is to move ahead on aspects of our strategic plan that we set as a government when we first took office almost three years ago, two-and-a-half years ago. There are pieces on that in people becoming more self-reliant on use to complete infrastructure requests that Members have raised, in fact, today, to move ahead with that quickly.

Mr. Speaker, on devolution, that will give us the authority to be able to determine the pace and the rate of development. We currently have a lot of development happening in the Territories and some people would say, in fact, it's happening at a rate faster than we can manage it. So, Mr. Speaker, I look forward to the day when we have that kind of control over development, over the use of the land, and the water, and the resources, and also the fiscal resources available to meet our strategic plan and our goals. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1471

The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Premier . Mr. Yakeleya .

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Question 497-15(4): Resource Revenue Sharing And Post-devolution Plans

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1471

Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When will we have the resource revenue sharing agreement signed, and when we have a properly satisfied devolution agreement with this territorial government, I'd like to ask when, when will the Premier again involve the people of the Northwest Territories in any type of post-devolution and resource revenue sharing. What's our next step? We're now masters of our own land, so I look forward to that day. I think that's going to be a great day for the Northwest Territories when we have those two deals in our back pocket when we can determine our own future.

So when will any type of territorial-wide discussions in terms of the next steps to these two important things? Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1471

The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Mahsi, Mr. Yakeleya . Mr. Premier .

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Question 497-15(4): Resource Revenue Sharing And Post-devolution Plans

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1471

Joe Handley

Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, I hope to have that kind of discussion on an ongoing basis. I can't predict exactly how fast resource revenue sharing arrangements will be negotiated, or devolution completed and so on. But, Mr. Speaker, I intend in the meantime that we continue to have a lot of open dialogue. We have opportunities; we have the Circle of Northern Leaders meeting coming up in April. I meet regularly with the regional aboriginal leadership. We have the Association of Communities who we meet with at least once a year, probably twice a year on average, or more. We meet with the communities, Mr. Speaker.

I hope that we, as a Legislative Assembly, look at another NWT Day in Ottawa to involve people in that.

---Applause

So, Mr. Speaker, there will be a lot of opportunity for us to involve the people in the North. We have proposals that are put forward connecting Canada from coast to coast to coast, Corridors II. So, Mr. Speaker, there's going to be ongoing discussion and I'll be sure that we do involve all of our constituents to the extent possible as we move ahead with this. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1471

The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Premier . Final supplementary, Mr. Yakeleya .

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Question 497-15(4): Resource Revenue Sharing And Post-devolution Plans

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1471

Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I heard once in a negotiation meeting that in order to get to the Promised Land you have to negotiate your way through the wilderness. So I'm hoping that Mr. Premier could negotiate us out of the wilderness to the Promised Land the North has always been looking forward to. So I want to ask the Premier , the Northern Strategy was much celebrated and a success of the Northwest Territories. I want to ask the Premier what's the status of the Northern Strategy. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Mahsi, Mr. Yakeleya . Mr. Premier .

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Question 497-15(4): Resource Revenue Sharing And Post-devolution Plans

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1471

Joe Handley

Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, the Northern Strategy was an agreement, a document that we were working on with the previous federal government. Mr. Speaker, we're now working with a new government. I've had the initial meeting with the Prime Minister and with the Minister of DIAND, and I expect that they are going to want to put their own vision on how they will work with us on development of the Northwest Territories. So, Mr. Speaker, I think we are going to look at a new arrangement yet to be determined by the Prime Minister and his Cabinet. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1472

The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Handley . Oral questions. Written questions. Mr. Yakeleya , Member for Sahtu .

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Written Question 37-15(4): "drop The Pop" Campaign

Item 7: Written Questions

Page 1472

Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Health and Social .

When will the communities/schools be eligible for funding to take the "Drop the Pop" challenge?

How much will each community/school be eligible for participation funding?

When will the "Drop the Pop" campaign be communicated to our communities/schools?

Will the communities receive recognition for participation in the campaign?

Thank you.

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Written Question 37-15(4): "drop The Pop" Campaign

Item 7: Written Questions

Page 1472

The Acting Speaker

David Ramsay

Mahsi, Mr. Yakeleya . Written questions. Returns to written questions. Petitions. Reports of committees on the review of bills. Tabling of documents. Mr. Roland .

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Tabled Document 102-15(4): 2006-2009 GNWT Business Plans

Item 11: Tabling Of Documents

Page 1472

Floyd Roland

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have three items for tabling. I wish to table the following document entitled 2006-2009 GNWT Business Plans.

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Tabled Document 103-15(4): List Of Inter-activity Transfers Exceeding $250,000 For The Period Ap