Health and Social Services — 5 November 1998 (13th Assembly, 6th Session, pp. 273–292)
1998-11-05, 13th Assembly 6th Session, pp. 273–292
Northwest Territories — Debates (Hansard)
Debates of Nov. 5th, 1998
This is page numbers 273 - 292 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 6th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.
The word of the day was community .
Topics
Members Present
Item 1: Prayer
Recruitment And Retention
Plan 2000 Update
Update On Pay Equity And Collective Bargaining
Keewatin Search And Rescue Conference
Canada Career Week
NWT Housing Corporation Assists The Homeless
Pangnirtung Search And Rescue Participants
Digital Communications Network
Commitment To Raise Constituency Issues
Student Financial Assistance Programs
Roads To Resources Initiative
Passing Of Tooma Netser
Stanton Regional Hospital Foundation Fundraising Efforts
Funding For Tourism Market
Wedding Congratulations
Minimum Wage Rates
Prayers For Mike Kachkowski
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recruitment And Retention Plan Funding
Tax Exemptions For Students
Recruitment And Retention Funding
Pangnirtung Airport Runway Update
Highway 3 Reconstruction
Pay And Benefits For Nurses
Formula Financing Agreement
Digital Communications Network Delay
Pelly Bay Gymnasium
Update On Post-division Power Corporation
Employee Rental Rates
Apex Drug And Alcohol Centre Closure
Recruitment Of Health Professionals
Invitation To Meet With Rae-edzo Residents
Youth Addiction Centre Closure
Invitation To Meet With Rae Lakes Residents
Minimum Wage Rates
Written Question 5-13(6): Project To Reconstruct Highway 3
Tabled Document 28-13(5): Letter From Holman Community Corporation Requesting Changes To Nunakput Electoral Boundaries
Tabled Document 29-13(6): Pangnirtung Search And Rescue Participants
Establishment Of The Special Committee On Nunavut Legislation
Approval Of Formula Financing Agreement
Item 22: Orders Of The Day
Members Present
Honourable Jim Antoine , Honourable Goo Arlooktoo , Mr. Barnabas , Honourable Charles Dent , Mr. Enuaraq , Mr. Erasmus , Honourable Sam Gargan, Mrs. Groenewegen , Mr. Henry , Mr. Krutko , Mr. Miltenberger , Honourable Kelvin Ng , Mr. Ningark , Mr. O'Brien , Mr. Ootes , Mr. Picco , Mr. Rabesca , Mr. Roland , Mr. Steen , Honourable Manitok Thompson , Honourable John Todd .
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Oh, God, may your spirit and guidance be in us as we work for the benefit of all our people, for peace and justice in our land and for the constant recognition of the dignity and aspirations of those whom we serve. Amen.
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Item 1: Prayer
Item 1: Prayer
Page 273
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you, Mr. Ningark . Good afternoon. Orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Ng .
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Minister's Statement 50-13(6): Recruitment And Retention
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 273
Kelvin Ng
Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am very pleased to announce that this morning, my Financial Management Board colleagues approved significant increased funding to support full implementation of the Recruitment and Retention Plan for Health and Social Services. This investment allows us to further our work with boards and other partners to address, in a sustainable way, recruitment and retention of nurses, social workers, physicians and other health and social service providers. Significant work has already begun to support recruitment and retention initiatives.
A recruitment and retention specialist began work in June. This individual has more than ten years experience with northern health and social services as a frontline worker. The Recruitment and Retention Support Specialist takes a very proactive approach to identifying and encouraging potential employees. I believe her experience and network of contacts is very helpful to the boards.
Mr. Speaker, there are many northern students currently in health and social service programs. Statistics from the Department of Education, Culture and Employment indicate that 187 students are enrolled in these programs. The financial support approved today will assist us in recruiting these students and encouraging them to return to the north. Financial support has been provided to boards to ensure on-going access to professional development and interaction. Professional development funds, administered by the boards, have many direct and indirect benefits, including:
- increasing skills in a particular area;
- creating opportunities for interaction with peers;
- creating opportunities to refresh a professional dealing with daily stress;
- highlighting the importance of self-development and self motivation; and
- acquiring new skills.
Access to professional development will be reviewed on an ongoing basis at the board level to ensure the needs of staff are being met.
Mr. Speaker, one of the biggest drawbacks in recruiting and retaining health and social service professionals in most communities is the isolation from colleagues and the on-call expectations. Therefore, some means of providing relief is necessary. Extensive efforts have gone into developing a pool of nurses, doctors and social workers who can provide relief and locum services for boards. The pool is small at this point, but is growing.
Mr. Speaker, we know that if frontline workers are going to give care to community residents, they must be healthy themselves. Our plan stresses the need for support of health and social service workers. Boards are encouraged to make a conscious effort to develop and monitor structured employee support. These efforts will help to ensure that employees feel valued and want to remain in the organization. I believe that we are addressing recruitment and retention issues. The funding approved today will allow us to continue this work.
In view of the serious nature of the problems that we are addressing with these initiatives we will need to be very proactive in implementing our plan. We will also need to remain flexible and open to new and creative ideas for dealing with recruitment and retention of health and social service workers.
We are not alone in facing these difficulties. In fact, recruitment and retention issues have been central in recent federal/provincial/territorial Ministers meetings. These are issues that my counterparts are dealing with as well. These meetings provide opportunities to share ideas and strategies that have worked for others. I have taken the opportunity in those meetings to discuss the difficulties we face in our jurisdiction and to learn from others facing similar problems.
Mr. Speaker, our plan does not contain all the answers to the difficulties that we have to deal with, but we believe that it provides a solid foundation for incorporating good ideas and creative thinking that will allow us to tackle these issues head on. I invite Members to provide us with the benefit of their knowledge of their own communities and put forward ideas, strategies and initiatives that they believe would work for them in serving their communities.
We also plan to talk with, and more importantly listen to, frontline workers and managers in their communities to determine what they see as possible solutions to their problems. I believe that community perspective is absolutely necessary in finding and developing
the most satisfactory answers.
Mr. Speaker, the problems that we face today are not problems that will be solved overnight. In fact, it will take time, hard work and dedication to develop and sustain a strong health and social service workforce. I ask Members to join me in recognizing and thanking the nurses, social workers, physicians and other frontline workers who are providing important services to NWT residents.
To all health and social service workers, I would like to say, "We know you are coping with difficult situations. I ask for your patience while we work with you to develop solutions. Your dedication and professionalism are greatly appreciated. Thank you."
--Applause
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Minister's Statement 50-13(6): Recruitment And Retention
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 274
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Ministers' statements. Mr. Arlooktoo .
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Minister's Statement 51-13(6): Plan 2000 Update
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 274
Goo Arlooktoo
Baffin South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to take a few moments to provide the House with an update on the NWT Housing Corporation's Plan 2000. In 1997 the corporation launched Plan 2000 with the objective of improving the living conditions of 2,000 NWT families by the year 2000. Mr. Speaker, considering the remoteness of most of our communities this is an ambitious task, to say the least. Under this strategy the corporation streamlined its programs so that more families could take advantage of them, to either get a new home or to improve the one they already live in.
Plan 2000 was widely promoted across the NWT, not just through the media, but by presentations in every community. At the end of the second season of construction since the start of Plan 2000, I am pleased to say that the NWT Housing Corporation is steadily closing in on its goals.
Mr. Speaker, it is hard to tell someone they will have to wait for assistance. I hope that those who question the corporation for not giving them a home as soon as they apply for it realize that we have to be fair to everyone. That means we have to set priorities. As we enter the final year of Plan 2000 I call on all Members of this House to support this initiative to assist the maximum number of people possible. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
--Applause
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Minister's Statement 51-13(6): Plan 2000 Update
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 274
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Ministers' statements. Mr. Todd .
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Minister's Statement 52-13(6): Update On Pay Equity And Collective Bargaining
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 274
John Todd
Keewatin Central
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Supreme Court of the Northwest Territories dismissed the bad faith bargaining allegation made by the UNW and granted the government's application for the appointment of a mediator. Mr. Speaker, collective bargaining has since been scheduled to resume from November 10 to 12, 1998, with the assistance of a mediator.
Mr. Speaker, we believe that we are now in a good position to conclude a collective agreement for ratification by employees. We now have clear direction that we must negotiate a gender-neutral job evaluation system and gender-neutral rates of pay at collective bargaining. However, we do not believe, in view of the position taken by the UNW, that we can conclude an agreement on retroactive payments for the settlement of the equal pay complaint at collective bargaining.
Mr. Speaker, before I set out the government's overall approach to the mediation talks and to resolving the pay equity complaint, I will list the principles that continue to guide the government in these negotiations:
- The government pays its employees a fair and equitable wage and benefit package designed to attract and retain a northern workforce.
- The government is totally supportive of the requirement for no discrimination in the workplace and for equal pay for work of equal value.
- The government is totally supportive of the Collective Bargaining process and believes that agreements freely entered into in good faith are preferred over settlements that are imposed on the parties.
- The government believes that a negotiated settlement of the equal pay complaint is preferred over the cumbersome, time-consuming and expensive federal Commission, Tribunal and Court processes.
- The government believes that it is in the interests of all the people of the NWT, including past and current employees, to settle the pay equity equal pay complaint and conclude a collective agreement before the division of the NWT on April 1, 1999.
- The government believes that employees should have the right to decide for themselves whether to accept the equal pay settlement offer for the past and a new collective agreement for the future.
Mr. Speaker, the Supreme Court made it very clear that the parties must negotiate a gender-neutral job evaluation system and gender-neutral rates of pay at collective bargaining. The Supreme Court agreed with the government that the obligation to negotiate a gender-neutral job evaluation system is the result of the union's allegation that past collective agreements do not contain a gender-neutral job evaluation system and gender-neutral rates of pay.
Mr. Speaker, a considerable commitment of time and resources went into the selection of the Hay Job Evaluation System and the evaluation of all jobs against that system. We must implement this system. We do not have the time or resources to start over with another system. Mr. Speaker, we are fully satisfied that the Hay Job Evaluation System, as implemented for our non-unionized employees, is gender-neutral and that the results are gender-neutral. The challenge we face is how best to demonstrate this fact to the satisfaction of the UNW so that we can agree on the implementation of the system for our unionized employees.
At mediation, we will table a revised offer that we believe will address all possible concerns that the UNW may have regarding the Hay Job Evaluation System. If we can address these concerns, we should be in a position to conclude a collective agreement that the UNW can recommend to its members for ratification. Hopefully, this can be done in time to get the increases that we are offering into the hands of employees as quickly as possible. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Minister's Statement 52-13(6): Update On Pay Equity And Collective Bargaining
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 275
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Ministers' statements. Ms. Thompson .
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Minister's Statement 53-13(6): Keewatin Search And Rescue Conference
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 275
Manitok Thompson
Aivilik
Mr. Speaker, every year we suffer the loss of loved ones because of tragic events and accidents. The recent deaths in Pangnirtung make it clear that lives can be lost, even when coordinated search and rescue attempts are made. Mr. Speaker, search and rescue and emergency preparedness is a collective responsibility. Individuals, community and government organizations, and the RCMP all work very hard to save lives through coordinated and planned efforts. It is critical to have trained, community/volunteer search teams to help RCMP members carry out search and rescue operations.
I am pleased to report that the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs and the RCMP have designed a search and rescue training program for the regions. These training sessions help communities and residents respond to these emergencies. Mr. Speaker, I am also pleased to report that the next search and rescue conference will be held in the Keewatin Region. MACA, the RCMP and the Kivalliq Inuit Association, are sponsoring the conference. It will be held in Rankin Inlet from December 15 to 17, 1998. Search and rescue personnel from Keewatin communities, RCMP officers, and representatives from federal and territorial agencies will discuss all aspects of search and rescue.
Mr. Speaker, this conference will allow participants to discuss ways to improve the general organization and management of local searches. They will also consider developing a strategy for the Keewatin region. We recognize that our efforts to help communities improve their local search and rescue operations could save lives. This is well worth the investment. It is an initiative the department will continue to promote. Through other promotions, such as public awareness and prevention initiatives, we also hope to save lives by reducing the number of search and rescue incidents required throughout the north. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
--Applause
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Minister's Statement 53-13(6): Keewatin Search And Rescue Conference
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 275
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Ministers' statements. Mr. Dent .
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Minister's Statement 54-13(6): Canada Career Week
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 275
Charles Dent
Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good afternoon. Mr. Speaker, this is Career Week across Canada. The Department of Education, Culture and Employment, in partnership with the Canada Career Consortium, encourages everyone to get involved. Career planning programs and services are available through ten career centres across the Northwest Territories. Staff at these centres work with schools, colleges, employers, other government departments and community organizations to ensure programs and services meet needs in every community. These centres have a wealth of information to help people plan and pursue a career.
I encourage everyone to drop into their local career centre and check it out. School and college counsellors and adult educators can also help with career planning. On the Internet you can visit the career development website. The address, siksik.learnnet.nt.ca, is on the career development bookmarks placed at each Member's desk today.
Events across the Northwest Territories this week will promote career awareness and the importance of career planning. For example, winning entries in the department's My Dream Job contest will be on display in the Great Hall next week. Prizes include job shadowing opportunities, t-shirts, mugs, mouse pads and other prizes donated by northern employers. As many of you are aware, yesterday was Take a Child to Work Day across the Northwest Territories and Canada. Resource kits were sent to all schools, colleges, career centres and community learning centres to help plan local career week activities.
The resource kits include suggested career week activities, a list of career development resources, a list of community partners and other contacts, promotional items, posters and copies of the career planning tabloids NWT Career Scopes and Canada Prospects. Mr. Speaker, I encourage northerners to get involved in Career Week activities and to get more information on career planning and the opportunities that are out there. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
--Applause
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Minister's Statement 54-13(6): Canada Career Week
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Ministers' statements. Mr. Arlooktoo .
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Minister's Statement 55-13(6): NWT Housing Corporation Assists The Homeless
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 275
Goo Arlooktoo
Baffin South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. One of the most important things any person can have is a safe place to call home. Sadly, in the Northwest Territories there are people who do not have a home. They sleep wherever they can find some shelter. Often, this shelter does not meet basic needs. This problem is particularly severe in Yellowknife and Iqaluit. I am proud to say that the NWT Housing Corporation
is working with partners in Yellowknife and Iqaluit to provide homeless people with basic shelter.
In Iqaluit, the corporation worked with the Emergency Shelter Society, the Iqaluit Housing Authority, Iqaluit Health and Social Services, the Baffin Regional Health and Social Services Board and the Illitit Society to replace the town's shelter. The old shelter was closed because it did not meet the standards necessary for healthy living conditions. The corporation provided the Iqaluit Housing Authority with $57,000 to renovate a one-bedroom public housing duplex for a new shelter.
In Yellowknife, the corporation is working with the Department of Education, Culture and Employment on a ten-bed shelter. This pilot project should be opening soon. I would like to thank the many people who supported this project, especially the Honourable Charles Dent and the Member for Yellowknife North , Mr. Roy Erasmus .
Mr. Speaker, these two projects are examples of what can be accomplished when government and community organizations work together. Through cooperative efforts like these, we can all make the north a better place to live. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
--Applause
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Minister's Statement 55-13(6): NWT Housing Corporation Assists The Homeless
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Enuaraq .
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Member's Statement 123-13(6): Pangnirtung Search And Rescue Participants
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 276
Tommy Enuaraq
Baffin Central
(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will be speaking Inuktitut today. On Sunday morning, November 1st, the bodies of two hunters and a ten-year old boy from Pangnirtung were found washed ashore about four hours away from their home community. The hunters were first reported missing October 23rd. Their bodies were found by members of the community who had volunteered for the intensive six day search. This effort included the RCMP, the Department of National Defence and the Canadian Coast Guard. Coast Guard vessels, as well as small private craft from Pangnirtung, also participated in the search and rescue effort.
Mr. Speaker, I rise today to acknowledge and thank the local volunteers and members of the RCMP, the Department of National Defence, and the Coast Guard who took
part in the search and rescue. Mr. Speaker, the list of volunteers is long and I will be tabling a document containing all their names. They number close to 61. I would also like to take this opportunity to extend my deepest condolences to the families of the deceased. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Translation ends)
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Member's Statement 123-13(6): Pangnirtung Search And Rescue Participants
Item 3: Members' Statements
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Roland .
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Member's Statement 124-13(6): Digital Communications Network
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 276
Floyd Roland
Inuvik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this government initiated the digital communication network, or DCN as we call it, back in May of 1996. This was to be the backbone of our communications system in the NWT. Mr. Speaker, the DCN has been plagued with delays from the start. Everyone agrees that our communications systems needs to be updated. There was also a lot of support for this work to begin. There were concerns, however, raised on many occasions in this Assembly regarding the process used to have the north connected. Mr. Speaker, I bring to this House another concern. This one is added to the list of concerns raised already on the issue of the DCN.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank Inuvik TV for stepping in and providing free Internet access when this government through this DCN was unable to come through. Once again, this showed that local Internet providers are better equipped to handle the new technological challenges that face us. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Member's Statement 124-13(6): Digital Communications Network
Item 3: Members' Statements
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Miltenberger .
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Member's Statement 125-13(6): Commitment To Raise Constituency Issues
Item 3: Members' Statements
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Michael Miltenberger
Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday, I made a statement in regard to the unresolved collective bargaining issues. I raised some legitimate issues brought to me by employees from my constituency after being invited to their meeting and tabled a petition in this House. When the House rose and I returned to my office, there was an anonymous phone call on my voice mail by someone who identified themselves only as a UNW member from Yellowknife telling me to mind my own business and stay out of union business.
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Some Hon. Members
Nay.
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Member's Statement 125-13(6): Commitment To Raise Constituency Issues
Item 3: Members' Statements
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Michael Miltenberger
Thebacha
Mr. Speaker, I consider the concerns brought to me by employees of the GNWT as my business and I think it is the business of every Member in this House that there be a resolution to the collective bargaining situation currently before us. I would encourage the government and the union to resolve this and I will not be deterred from bringing these concerns forward by anonymous phone calls. Thank
you, Mr. Speaker.
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Member's Statement 125-13(6): Commitment To Raise Constituency Issues
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Members' statements. Mr. Krutko .
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Member's Statement 126-13(6): Student Financial Assistance Programs
Item 3: Members' Statements
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David Krutko
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My statement today is about the education funding policy regarding the programs that we deliver to the students. My statement is more in regard to the student financial assistance and the programs and services this government offers. I would like to bring to the attention of the Minister and this government that these programs in no way should put individuals and students in a financial burden with Revenue Canada and all the taxes that a lot of our students end up paying after returning home. Mr.
Speaker, I will use an individual for an example who went for her bachelor degree of education, an area that this government is striving for to ensure that our teachers have their certification in the classrooms. She attended school for three years in Saskatoon and received her bachelors degree in education, then returned home to Aklavik. In the meantime, she received a bill from Revenue Canada in the area of, I believe, $20,000 for taxes that she had to pay back because of loans that she received from this government.
Mr. Speaker, I do not think it is appropriate for our students, who we entice to go off and get their education, get their degrees, come home and fill those positions for the long-term residents of the Northwest Territories. Mr. Speaker, I think it is critical that when we do implement funding policies, programs and services, that we also consider the financial implications that may come with those different programs and services. Mr. Speaker, at the appropriate time, I will be asking the Minister of Education questions on this matter.
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Member's Statement 126-13(6): Student Financial Assistance Programs
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Members' statements. Mr. Rabesca .
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Member's Statement 127-13(6): Roads To Resources Initiative
Item 3: Members' Statements
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James Rabesca
North Slave
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I would like to look into the future. I would like to express my constituents' concern over the comments that my colleague, Mr. Henry , made yesterday during his Member's statement. Mr. Speaker, as you may recall, Mr. Henry was rather adamant about the fact that his road to resources would start from Yellowknife and basically follow the existing route. I, on the other hand, feel this is not the most prudent or feasible solution. I would also like to thank the Mayor of Hay River for his comment and his vision of the future.
Mr. Speaker, for years Rae-Edzo has been in the shadow of Yellowknife. We have never lobbied to take anything away from Yellowknife, we have always been very good, cooperative neighbours and have watched Yellowknife grow and prosper. Now we have an opportunity that could benefit my entire region. If this road were to start from Rae-Edzo, badly needed jobs would be the first benefit. Secondly, it would allow for further expansion of our airport facility by establishing docking yards and storage areas, which of course would also create employment for our residents.
Thirdly, by ensuring a good route to the Lac-de-Gras area we could also ensure that our smaller communities of Wha Ti, Rae Lakes and Snare Lake would receive benefits from employment and possibly by the fact that these communities could be connected to this road, which of course would provide a better way of life than is currently available to these residents.
As one can see, Mr. Speaker, by using Rae-Edzo as a starting point, the benefits are considerable. Now I ask, who benefits from having this road start from Yellowknife? I would venture to say a few businesses at the most or nothing else. I feel it is time for the rest of the NWT to reap some of the benefits that are available and not just Yellowknife. Let us share the wealth to benefit the entire western Arctic and not just a few businesses in Yellowknife. I also hope that my other colleagues will give us the much needed support to ensure this very important project benefits as many people as possible. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
--Applause
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Member's Statement 127-13(6): Roads To Resources Initiative
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Members' statements. Ms. Thompson .
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Member's Statement 128-13(6): Passing Of Tooma Netser
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Manitok Thompson
Aivilik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I would like to inform this House of the loss of a close friend and respected elder during the summer of this year in Coral Harbour.
Mr. Speaker, Tooma Netser of Coral Harbour was born in September 1928 and passed away on June 10, 1998. He is sadly missed and deeply remembered by his wife, Annie, and their 11 children and many grandchildren. His children are Ajownik, Amaujoak, Joe, Nellie, Patrick, Leona, Dorothy, Jackie, Jake, Leonie and Jason. Mr. Netser and his wife had one other son, Albert, who passed away as a young man.
Mr. Speaker, Tooma Netser put in more than 20 years of service with the Department of Public Works before he retired. He was actively involved with his community and worked hard to make it a better place. During his lifetime, Mr. Netser was a dedicated mayor, he served as an outspoken and determined member of the hamlet council, he was an active board member of the HTA and the DEA, and was deeply committed to serving on the Special Committee on Suicide Prevention.
Mr. Speaker, Tooma Netser was very vocal about the needs of his community. He was regularly heard on the local radio talking about life skills, youth politics and harvesting practises. Mr. Netser firmly believed in community empowerment and emphasized that the skills of the local people needed to be developed so that they can become employed in their community. Finally, Mr. Speaker, Tooma Netser encouraged us to believe that we, as aboriginal people, are able to live and help our communities to become better places. Mr. Speaker , Mr. Netser was a wise and respected elder. The community deeply misses him and we will always keep his memory alive in our hearts. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
--Applause
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
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Member's Statement 129-13(6): Stanton Regional Hospital Foundation Fundraising Efforts
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Page 278
Seamus Henry
Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as you and many of my colleagues are aware, the Stanton Regional Hospital Foundation is holding a telethon later this month, on November 29, 1998 to be exact. The telethon is being held at the St. Patrick High School.
All money raised from this telethon will be used to purchase new equipment, in particular a CT Scanner, to improve the quality of health care services provided to the people of the Northwest Territories. It is up to all of us, as residents of the NWT, to support this very worthwhile cause as we all benefit from the provision of better health care services. Telethon organizers have been working extremely hard in recent months to pull this venture off and it is now the time for the people of the NWT to do their part. Already $1.2 million has been raised, most of that from governments and the corporate sector.
One approach that the telethon organizers are using in attempting to raise money for the telethon are challenges within the GNWT, business community, school groups and other organizations. I know the staff at the Legislative Assembly are working hard to raise donations and pledges for the telethon. They have also issued a challenge to all other GNWT departments to meet or beat their total, which I am told is climbing slowly. At this time, I would like to add my voice to the challenge and encourage all GNWT employees and their departments to try and match or beat the Assembly's total.
Already MACA and the NWT Housing Corporation have expressed some interest in accepting this challenge. I urge all other departments to get involved and help the telethon organizers meet their goal of $2 million.
--Applause
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Ootes .
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Member's Statement 130-13(6): Funding For Tourism Market
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Jake Ootes
Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, earlier this year I made a statement in this House regarding tourism. At that time, the NWT Arctic Tourism Association had just completed its business plan and announced a vision toward increasing its marketing and promotion efforts. Its funding of $540,000 is only half of what was previously spent on tourism marketing by this government. Yet the association reported that visitor numbers had remained steady at pre-budget cut days.
This clearly points to the increased efficiencies achieved by the association. There is no doubt that there is a direct relationship between the number of visitors coming here and the spending on marketing. Compared with other jurisdictions such as Yukon or Alberta, the NWT tourism sector still has tremendous growth potential, providing marketing dollars are spent on that initiative. The association has submitted to this government a proposal and request for increased funding. For next year, their budget request is $1.48 million and for the following year, based on a job well done in the previous year, they are asking for $2.2 million.
What needs to be done now is for RWED and the association to come to an agreement over specific roles and responsibilities. For example, RWED could maintain responsibilities for strategic planning, as well as tourism research and licensing functions. The association could assume primary responsibility in such areas as media relations, consumer and travel industry shows, and operator standards. I urge this government to meet the funding needs of the association and address the coordinating roles. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
--Applause
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Antoine .
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Member's Statement 131-13(6): Wedding Congratulations
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Jim Antoine
Nahendeh
Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to congratulate two of my constituents, who were recently married in a civil ceremony in Yellowknife. Ms. Edith Girouz and Mr. Darryl Mack became husband and wife on November 4, 1998 in a small ceremony. I would like to extend my personal best wishes to Edith and Darryl.
Edith has been my most capable executive secretary since 1996 and Darryl is employed with the Department of Justice. I would like all residents and colleagues who know Edith and Darryl to join me in wishing them a lifetime of happiness together. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.
--Applause
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Picco .
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Member's Statement 132-13(6): Minimum Wage Rates
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Edward Picco
Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, over the past few weeks I have been doing some research on the national minimum wage rates. Mr. Speaker, the minimum wages across Canada run from $5.25 an hour in Newfoundland to $7.15 in British Columbia. The Yukon rate is $6.86 an hour.
Mr. Speaker, the Northwest Territories minimum wage is $6.50 and off road is $7.00 an hour. A large number of the Northwest Territories employees and students continue to be paid the minimum wage. If a person works 40 hours a week for 12 months a year, their gross yearly wage would be a little more than $13,000 a year. Mr. Speaker, that amount is well below the cost of living and indeed puts that person below the poverty line.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to suggest that this government review the current minimum wage amount both off and on road and look to increasing it at least to a point that reflects the higher cost of living in the north. To have jurisdictions like British Columbia further ahead of our minimum wage rate and having other jurisdictions within 40 or 50 cents of ours, is not acceptable. Later today, I will ask the appropriate Minister about this matter. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Erasmus .
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Member's Statement 133-13(6): Prayers For Mike Kachkowski
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Roy Erasmus
Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to ask for Members to remember a long-term northerner in their prayers. I am speaking about Mike Kachkowski, a very long-term northerner who is seriously ill with cancer in the Stanton Hospital. Mike has been in the north for over 50 years and can be said to have been a true pioneer. He worked as a prospector, cat skinner and those types of things. He is probably best known for starting and running Mike's Trucking here in Yellowknife for many years with his wife, my aunt, Theresa Paul. They later sold this company, but it is still operating today in Yellowknife.
As I said, Mike is seriously ill in the hospital and we ask that people remember him in their prayers. Thank you.
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you, Mr. Erasmus . Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Picco .
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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Page 279
Edward Picco
Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in the gallery today we have Ms. Judy Aniliaiak who is a former resident of Pangnirtung and a resident of Iqaluit. She is currently working here in Yellowknife at the Legislative Assembly. With her is Nancy Tupik, who will soon be moving to Iqaluit to work with the Clerk of the Legislative Assembly. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
--Applause
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Page 279
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Welcome to the Assembly. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. O'Brien .
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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Page 279
Kevin O'Brien
Kivallivik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to recognize a former resident of Baker Lake, Ms. Rhoda Perkison, who recently took on the responsibilities of deputy clerk for Nunavut. Thank you.
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Welcome to the Assembly. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Miltenberger .
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Question 151-13(6): Recruitment And Retention Plan Funding
Item 6: Oral Questions
Page 279
Michael Miltenberger
Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is addressed to the Minister of Health and Social Services . He talked about the retention and recruitment plan which has been tabled for ten months, but was silent on exact figures and the amount of money that has been put to this program. Could the Minister indicate for this House the amounts of money being put towards this very essential program? Thank you.
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Question 151-13(6): Recruitment And Retention Plan Funding
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
The Minister of Health and Social Services , Mr. Ng .
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Item 6: Oral Questions
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Kelvin Ng
Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker
the exact amount approved by the Financial Management Board this morning in a supplementary appropriation was $2.386 million, which works out to approximately $3.6 million on an annual basis, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger .
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Item 6: Oral Questions
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Michael Miltenberger
Thebacha
Mr. Speaker, as the Minister has indicated, this will be added to the base and there will be a yearly amount. This is not just a one-time injection of funds. Thank you.
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Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Mr. Ng
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Item 6: Oral Questions
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Kelvin Ng
Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker,
yes, the intent is that the approximately $2.4 million dollars is to carry us to the end of this 1998/1999 fiscal year and the plan is to have approximately $3.1 million dollars added to the bases for the 1999/2000 fiscal year, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger .
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Michael Miltenberger
Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could the Minister indicate what the first steps are going to be in terms of putting this money to use, considering that we are halfway through the fiscal year already? Thank you.
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Mr. Ng .
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Kelvin Ng
Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there are significant areas that have already been identified in the plan and, as I had indicated, there is a lot of work that has been done, so it is to enhance and complete the implementation of those things. I will mention some of them and I will provide a more detailed list if that is what the Members want.
In respect of development of northern resources for scholarship opportunities for nursing and social workers, summer employment internship opportunities, to fund those, of course, that would not work so much this year for the summer employment aspect of that. Mentorship programs for social workers, nurses, recruiting of northern graduates and students, high school students orientation, recruitment, coordinators for northern work force development, the establishment of locum relief pools, facilitating professional development, these are some of the more major areas where some of the more significant resources will be dedicated, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Oral questions. Final supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger .
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Michael Miltenberger
Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could the Minister indicate or clarify whether this money is outside, or over and above, the money on the table through the collective bargaining process?
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Samuel Gargan
Mr. Ng .
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Kelvin Ng
Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, these funds will be in addition to the current budget. It is over and above the current budget of the Department of Health and Social Services. It is new funding for this year and for next year when it is added into the base. The collective agreement has nothing to do whatsoever with this. Those are the more specific pay and benefit issues that are on the table in respect to our government union. Thank you.
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Oral questions, Mr. Krutko .
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Question 152-13(6): Tax Exemptions For Students
Item 6: Oral Questions
Page 280
David Krutko
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is to the Minister of Education . It is regarding to my statement of problems that my constituents have run into, especially the ones that are going off to post-secondary education and striving for their bachelor degrees in education. This particular constituent of mine has found herself in financial difficulty with Revenue Canada.
Yet she is an aboriginal, Inuit person and I would like to ask the Minister regarding the education funding policy and programs that this government delivers on, what association does, the acts have in relation to the Indian Act and aboriginal peoples' rights to education and also the exemption from paying taxes for that particular right? I would like to ask the Minister, can he tell me, are there any exemptions available to students that we do send to southern institutions to get their bachelors degree in education and also how we can assist these students when they find themselves in difficult times?
Can the Minister tell me, what is available to this individual who has found herself in difficulties with Revenue Canada?
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Item 6: Oral Questions
Page 280
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Dent .
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Page 280
Charles Dent
Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am aware of the problem the Member is addressing here. I have today signed a letter in response to his constituent. The Government of the Northwest Territories recognizes indigenous aboriginal people, whether they are Dene, Metis or Inuit, and provides the same assistance to those individuals. The person would have qualified for a basic and a supplementary grant. Unfortunately, Revenue Canada and the federal government only allow tax-free status on funds to treaty Dene people. Therefore, Metis and Inuit people wind up owing taxes on monies that are provided to them by way of grant.
This is not something that we can change as a government, though we have tried to address the issue with Revenue Canada. They hold firm to the position that only treaty Dene will be tax exempt and, therefore, the monies that are provided by way of grant are considered taxable income in the hands of the Metis and Inuit students. This is true whether the student travels to the south or stays resident in the north. This is one of the areas in which I had hoped to make some modifications to the Student Financial Assistance Program, which is currently under review.
I am hopeful that I will be able to propose some changes that might address this issue in the future. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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David Krutko
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Can the Minister tell me if he and his Cabinet colleagues have made an effort to approach the federal government to make an amendment or an exemption to the Taxation Act in regards to the Northwest Territories to allow for all aboriginal people to be treated on the same basis when it comes to taxation for education?
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Charles Dent
Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This approach has been made in the past, and Revenue Canada has held very firmly to the idea that only those people covered by treaty will be exempt from taxation. Thank you.
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David Krutko
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister if he has made an attempt to approach the federal Minister for clarification under
section 35 of the Canadian Constitution, which identifies aboriginal people in the context of aboriginal people in Canada? If he has looked at the possibility of getting a legal opinion on the definition of aboriginal people under that section?
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Charles Dent
Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have not specifically approached the Minister on that point with regards to student financial assistance. However, I did raise that issue with the Minister of Indian Affairs about the UCEP funding, which again, is a program which is aimed at aboriginal people to allow them to upgrade for university or college entrance and which will not fund upgrading courses for Metis people. I brought up the point that aboriginal people are defined to include Metis and suggested that indicated a broader definition, but was unsuccessful. Indirectly, that approach has been tried and has not worked. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Question 153-13(6): Recruitment And Retention Funding
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Edward Picco
Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker going back to the statement made by the Minister of Health concerning the funding of the recruitment and retention of health and social service professionals. I wonder, Mr. Speaker, when can the boards and the staff expect to see the benefits of the FMB decision announced by the Minister today? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Kelvin Ng
Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker I think that is a very subjective question, in respect of it is hard to measure. Some of these initiatives are more of a medium and longer term range in trying to develop a northern work force. I think one of the things that could be expected to impact directly on the board currently would be the development of a locum relief pool, where we would be able to send individuals in to assist communities that require assistance on an immediate basis. As I indicated, it is a small start in that area, but it is starting to grow and we are hoping that now that we have some additional resources we can hopefully accelerate that. Thank you.
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Edward Picco
Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker does the extra funding announced to implement the recruitment and retention include funds to start up the Nunavut Nursing Program as outlined on page 5 of the report?
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Kelvin Ng
Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, that, as you know, does not fall under the jurisdiction of the Department of Health and Social Services. Funding for Arctic College programs are with ECE. I can say that there was a request that had gone forward as well and in conjunction with ours and Mr. Dent would be planning on making an announcement, I believe tomorrow, on that, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
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Edward Picco
Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, on page 21 of Mr. Ng 's report it talks about the flexibility necessary in hiring, an incentives fund would be established. I am wondering if the incentives fund that is in the report tabled by Mr. Ng . is part of the funding that was approved today? Thank you.
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Kelvin Ng
Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the
report was not tabled in this particular session of the Assembly, but knowing the background of it, I will respond to the Member that no, that is not a part of the submission that was put forward and approved by the Financial Management Board. Thank you.
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Tommy Enuaraq
Baffin Central
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I will be directing my question to the Minister of Transportation , the Honourable Jim Antoine . Mr. Speaker, can the Minister please update this House on what is happening on the runway in Pangnirtung? Thank you.
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Jim Antoine
Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as far as I know, the department has not really done anything other than they normally do with the runway in Pangnirtung. I guess I have reported in the House in previous Assemblies that there has been a request for major funding to go to Pangnirtung to move the airport to another location. I had indicated that the department did not have any funds to do such an expenditure at this time. However, we were working with Transport Canada to see what could be done with it.
That is the only source of possibly trying to meet up with the requests of the honourable Member, by this route. At this point in time, I have not really had an update with my department with regards to how that is progressing. I will have to check with the department in this regard and get more further detail on that. Thank you.
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Question 155-13(6): Highway 3 Reconstruction
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Jake Ootes
Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions is also for the Minister of Transportation , Mr. Antoine , and it is with respect to the Highway 3, Rae to Yellowknife reconstruction. I wonder if the Minister could update us as to the
schedule of work in relationship to the current contracts that are now being let or have already been let? Thank you.
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The question is very detailed and two questions were asked. Would you like to respond, Minister of Transportation , Mr. Antoine ?
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Jim Antoine
Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the department had approval by the Department of Indian and Northern Affairs to give us the permits to go ahead and commence the work on the
section of Highway 3 between Yellowknife and Rae-Edzo. Therefore, clearing and brushing has begun on both ends. That is already in progress. In regards to the actual work to start the reconstruction of the section, it is to be out for public tender by the end of this month, by November 30th. Thank you.
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Jake Ootes
Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On the Highway 3 reconstruction and part of the $2 million dollar strategy in regard to the Highway 3 reconstruction, I wonder if the Minister could tell us if the department is also looking at funding sources for future reconstruction of that highway?
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Jim Antoine
Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in our highway strategy one of the four strategies was to look at the
section between Rae-Edzo and Yellowknife to see how we could accelerate this program. What we are doing in the department is that we are currently having a public tendering process to begin the initial work in the normal process. Once we publicly tender the work that is approved by the Legislative Assembly by the end of this month, then we will be moving into the phase of organizing an advisory committee of some sort and undertaking some studies to see how we could accelerate this program, including the financial aspect the honourable Member is inquiring about. Thank you.
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Jake Ootes
Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could the Minister tell us what date or approximately when he might be looking at the formation of the advisory committee on the Highway 3 strategy? Thank you.
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I indicated, we are awaiting the awarding of the public tendering contract at the end of the month. After that, we will be getting into awarding some contracts to do some studies to look into these matters. Thank you.
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Question 156-13(6): Pay And Benefits For Nurses
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Roy Erasmus
Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are for the Minister of Finance in relation to some questions and statements that were made yesterday regarding the pay and
benefits for nurses. We have heard that some places are losing nurses and actually shutting down some programs because of loss of those nurses. We have also heard that Mr. Ng is now moving ahead on the recruitment and retention plan. That is good. What I wanted was clarification on what the Finance Minister indicated yesterday, that in some cases there is approximately $11,000 sitting there waiting to be offered to nurses, but that cannot be implemented. I was wondering if the Minister could indeed clarify if that is what the case is? Thank you.
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank my honourable colleague for giving me the opportunity to further elaborate on the situation that was raised by Mr. Steen yesterday. When we did the Job Evaluation System and put into place the Hay Plan system, it became obvious that there was going to be a significant change in the way nurses, particularly community nurses, now, have to define the difference between community nurses and nurses who work at the Stanton hospital or the future Inuvik hospital. Community nurses, in my understanding with my discussions with Mr.
Voytilla earlier today, a community nurse should we get the pay equity and the collective agreement solved, would just on pay equity and the changes to our classification get somewhere between $9,000 to $13,000 annually on a salary. On top of that, if we get the collective agreement signed off, there will be a two percent increase plus, in some cases depending on the community, a significant increase on the northern allowance benefits, et cetera.
In simple language, there would be significant increases to the wages and benefits package offered up should we get an agreement reached, both on the pay equity and on the collective bargaining situation that we placed before the UNW. Thank you.
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is also my understanding that this cannot be offered to the nurses because of the collective bargaining. Is there anything that can be done to improve a monetary situation of what we are offering nurses outside of the agreement?
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John Todd
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Well, Mr. Speaker, the short answer would be no. I think it would be inappropriate for the government to pre-empt collective bargaining that is currently underway. As I said in my earlier comment today, I am optimistic that we can come to some resolution, that common sense will prevail. This government and this Cabinet wants to put new money, more money, in the hands of our employees and hopefully we can conclude that before Christmas. Thank you.
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Roy Erasmus
Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If this is accepted, the increase would be from $9,000 to $13,000 for the community nurses. Would this be substantially more than what is being paid to the nurses in southern Canada?
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to be able to answer my colleague. I am advised by my colleague, Mr. Ng , that it is different in jurisdictions across Canada. I would be reluctant to say unequivocally today whether we would be more or less. What I would say, though, is there is a significant change in the compensation package as it relates to community nurses when we look at the redress we are making with respect to pay equity and the additional collective bargaining components that we put on the table.
Again, if I may, just to be a bit repetitive, I am optimistic that we will be able to come to an agreement in the next week or so, so that we can put more money into the hands of our employees by Christmas. Thank you.
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Roy Erasmus
Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Somehow I am not too sure that more people will come flocking over here if they are going to be getting paid the same amount in BC or southern Alberta. Would the Minister admit to providing us with a comparison of what is being offered in the south to the nurses as compared to what is being negotiated now? Thank you.
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John Todd
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I will provide the House or the Members by letter with some comparisons once I have my staff have it done. Thank you.
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Seamus Henry
Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the
Minister of Finance , Mr. Todd . Yesterday, the Minister of Finance talked about the Formula Financing Agreement that was signed by Minister Martin and himself a couple of weeks ago. I think it is fair to say that all Members of this House were excited about the deal that was negotiated. Mr. Todd talked about the hard work that all parties put into the deal. My question is to the Minister, I would like the Minister to advise this House of some of the potential negative parts of this agreement in the event that the population numbers of the Northwest Territories decline. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will take the question as notice so I can answer it correctly. Thank you.
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Question 158-13(6): Digital Communications Network Delay
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Floyd Roland
Inuvik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question at this time is directed to the Minister responsible for Finance regarding the DCN, or Digital Communications Network. Mr. Speaker, could the Minister inform us where this process lies and if the timing of this communications network that was supposed to be operative in many locations, is it on-line and moving ahead? Thank you.
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
Mr. Speaker, I am advised by my department that in most cases we are on target for putting in the digital communication system in the communities. There appears to be and has been consistently some problems in Inuvik, perhaps because of a variety of different reasons as it does not exist in some other communities. To date, we are on-line and on target for having the digital communication system up and in place. Thank you.
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Floyd Roland
Inuvik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could the Minister further inform us if it is on budget as well? Thank you.
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
I better clarify. I think when I presented to the House in previous sessions I gave a detailed listing of the communities and when it was expected that some of the digital communication system would be up and running. Now, this is a creative, visionary approach that we want to take and it is not going to be without. As they say, it has glitches and it has warts. As to whether it is on budget or not, I would have to check with my department.
There has certainly been no request for any additional funds, thank goodness, because we are still trying to maintain a balanced budget, but as I said earlier, I am optimistic in the smaller communities and the other communities I have talked to, that we are going to meet the targets we set and that it will allow the Northwest Territories to enter into the 21st millennium as an active participant in the digital communications highway.
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Floyd Roland
Inuvik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As the Minister pointed out, it has its glitches and warts and I think they have found more than they thought they would. If he could further inform us, there was a time-line when the whole north would be connected. He says it is visionary, but when the 21st century comes around I think we will find we are still living in the past. Can he inform us if that end time-line will be met with all the communities connected? Thank you.
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
Perhaps only in Inuvik, Mr. Speaker. It appears that in the other communities that we certainly had no complaints. We had some complaints out of Fort Smith and Inuvik. We have had no complaints anywhere else. Well, I did say Fort Smith. I am saying to my honourable colleague, a concerted effort is being made to put the Northwest Territories into the 21st century when it comes to high tech digital communications. I am sure my honourable colleague will appreciate, when you move forward on something as creative and visionary as this it is not going to be without its warts and problems.
It may end up that all the warts and problems are all sitting in Inuvik, but I certainly will make every effort to have them removed accordingly.
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Floyd Roland
Inuvik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am aware that there is more than just Inuvik who has these warts and problems, so if the Minister could give me information as to the specifics, I have raised them before with the Minister regarding concerns raised in Inuvik. If he could provide me with the information as to when those will be cleared up? Thank you.
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
Mr. Speaker, I appreciate my colleague's concerns, and I think his concerns, relate to the local service provider. I believe it was a similar situation in Fort Smith. I am telling my honourable colleague in all sincerity, there are no other areas of problems right now, with respect to the ones he has in Inuvik. We are trying to make a concerted effort. We have not done as well as we should have in that community, make a concerted effort in that community and resolve the problems he alluded to earlier in his statement.
I want to assure him, by April 1, 1999, one way or another, a territorial-wide digital communications system will be in place. As I have explained on a number of occasions, it is not going to be without its problems. Hopefully, we will be able to resolve as many of them as we can. I will be only too happy to provide my honourable colleague with a complete update as to the status of the digital communication system as it relates to all the communities in the Arctic. Thank you.
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John Ningark
Natilikmiot
(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question will be directed to the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs , Madame Thompson. The Hamlet of Pelly Bay wrote to me and to the MACA department in one of the other communities in the central Arctic regarding a gymnasium in Pelly Bay. Mr. Speaker, at that time in 1999, we understood construction was to begin on this new gymnasium, but on a smaller scale. Now, the hamlet board has indicated their request for a bigger gymnasium to be built at a later date.
My question to the Minister is, can the Hamlet of Pelly Bay receive further funding to expand on the current size of the gymnasium that is planned to be built in that community? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Translation ends)
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Manitok Thompson
Aivilik
(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In response to the Member for Natilikmiot . I understand the question as I have received correspondence to the same effect. Perhaps the mayor of the community, Mr. Angutingnugiq of Pelly Bay, is the person I have to apologize to, first of all. I was supposed to visit the community this spring, but because of my work schedule, I was unable to do so. I did not get a chance to speak with him myself. I did speak with Doug Crossley, who has been to the community, from Cambridge Bay.
I understand they had a meeting in which the request for an expansion of the gymnasium is clear. The school had been built without a gymnasium. They currently use the gymnasium that belongs to the community or recreation authority. We are trying to make plans to make an extension, costing $1.5 million, which would make an attachment to the school. The people of that community find that gymnasium would be too small. The education board had been advised about this concern and funding was provided to that effect, but it was short by $952,000.
The education board was aware of this concern and they offered $350,000, but no explanation was provided when they took that funding back. This is a concern and I plan on handing it over to the new government. I know it is a concern to the people over there. I plan to work again closely with the education board to address this concern. The money that was scheduled for a building has been earmarked for that gymnasium. I know their request has been for a bigger building and I will be speaking with the Minister of Education regarding that concern. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Translation ends)
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John Ningark
Natilikmiot
(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Supplementary to my question. I thank the Minister for her adequate response a