Debates of May 27th, 2009

This is page numbers 3035 - 3072 of the Hansard for the 16th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was agreed .

Topics

Oral Questions

Members Present

Prayer

Minister’s Statement 68-16(3): Sessional Statement

Transfer Of Government-Owned Assets To Communities

Media Coverage Of Governor General’s Visit To Rankin Inlet

Fact Finding Mission To Scandinavia To Examine Climate Change Technologies

National Day Of Healing And Reconciliation Of Residential School Survivors

Fact Finding Mission To Scandinavia To Examine Climate Change Technologies

Proposed Northern Development Agency

GNWT Response To Supplementary Health Benefits Motion

Implementation Of 911 Telephone Service

Closure Of John Tsetso Memorial Public Library

Condolences To Constituents’ Families That Have Suffered The Loss Of Loved Ones

On-Line Petitions

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Biomass Initiatives In Smaller Communities

Establishment Of Independent Northern University

Implementation Of 911 Telephone Service

GNWT Response To Supplementary Health Benefits Motion

Proposed Northern Development Agency

National Aboriginal Day Of Healing And Reconciliation Of Residential School Survivors

NWT Declaration

Power Corporation Mandate To Deliver Biomass Energy Alternatives

Southern Bids And Northern Construction Projects

Transfer Of Government-Owned Assets To Communities

Use Of Rental Vehicles During Medical Travel

Return To Written Question 4-16(3): Mackenzie Valley Highway Construction

Return To Written Question 5-16(3): Mental Health Services At North Slave Correctional Centre

Return To Written Question 6-16(3): NWT Resource Royalties

Return To Written Question 7-16(3): Activities Of Business Development Investment Corporation

Return To Written Question 8-16(3): Dehcho Process And Protected Areas Strategy

Petition 6-16(3): Comprehensive Review Of Child And Family Services Act

Petition 7-16(3): Long-Term Care Facility In Ulukhaktok

Committee Report 5-16(3): Auxiliary Report On The Review Of The Report Of The Chief Electoral Officer On The Administration Of The 2007 Election

Motion To Receive Committee Report 5-16(3) And Move Into Committee Of The Whole

Bill 6: Species At Risk (NWT) Act Bill 14:

An Act To Amend The Motor Vehicles Act

Bill 2: Settlement Of International Investment Disputes Act Bill 15: Miscellaneous Statute Law Amendment Act, 2009 Bill 12: Securities Transfer Act

Tabled Document 35-16(3): Supplementary Appropriation No. 1 (Operations Expenditures), 2009-2010 Tabled Document 36-16(3): Supplementary Appropriation No. 2 (Infrastructure Expenditures), 2009-2010 Tabled Document 37-16(3): Supplementary Appropriation No. 4, 2008-2009

Tabled Document 38-16(3): North Slave Correctional Centre – Remand Statistics

Tabled Document 39-16(3): Federal Revenues From Non-Renewable Natural Resources In The North

Tabled Document 40-16(3): Conflict Of Interest Commissioner Report Dated May 25, 2009, Respecting Alleged Breach By Premier Roland On

Section 75 Of The Legislative Assembly And Executive Council Act

Tabled Document 41-16(3): Conflict Of Interest Commissioner Report Dated March 25, 2009, Allegation Of Jane Groenewegen That Premier Roland Breached

Section 86 Or

Section 75 Of The Legislative Assembly And Executive Council Act

Tabled Document 42-16(3): Response To Petition 1-16(3)

Tabled Document 43-16(3): Response To Petition 2-16(3)

Tabled Document 44-16(3): Response To Petition 3-16(3)

Tabled Document 45-16(3): Response To Petition 4-16(3)

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Concurrence Of Td 37-16(3): Supplementary Appropriation No. 4, 2008-2009

Concurrence Of Td 35-16(3): Supplementary Appropriation No. 1, (Operations Expenditures), 2009-2010

Concurrence Of Td 36-16(3): Supplementary Appropriation No. 2 (Infrastructure Expenditures), 2009-2010

Report of Committee of the Whole

Orders of the Day

The House met at 1:36 p.m.

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Prayer

Prayer

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Good afternoon, colleagues. I would like to welcome you back to the Chamber today as we resume the Third Session of the 16th Legislative Assembly.

This is a relatively short sitting of the House, but I understand there is a great deal of very important to work to be done in the seven days allotted. I know, colleagues, that you are eager to begin and focus on the work at hand, giving it your usual thoughtful consideration. I ask that as you do that work, that you recall your renewed commitment to consensus government and to the people of the Northwest Territories who we all serve. I expect that Members will treat each other and this institution with the dignity and respect each deserves.

It is now my duty to advise the House that I have received the following message from the Commissioner of the Northwest Territories and it reads:

“Dear Mr. Speaker, I wish to advise that I recommend to the Legislative Assembly of the Northwest Territories, the passage of Supplementary Appropriation Act (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2009-2010, Supplementary Appropriation Act (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2009-2010 and Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 4, 2008-2009 during the Third Session of the 16th Legislative Assembly. Yours truly, Anthony W. J. Whitford, Commissioner.”

Thank you, colleagues. Orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers’ statements. The honourable Premier , Mr. Roland .

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Minister’s Statement 68-16(3): Sessional Statement

Ministers’ Statements

Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Premier

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it is my pleasure to welcome Ministers and Members back to this Assembly.

Much like the spring that has taken over our North, I sense a new energy, a feeling of rejuvenation and a renewed spirit of commitment to the vision, goals

and priorities that we set for ourselves almost two years ago.

At that time, Mr. Speaker, we spoke with confidence of realizing a Territory filled with strong individuals, families and communities each sharing the benefits and responsibilities of a unified, environmentally sustainable and prosperous economy.

We envisioned a future empowered by the potential that exists in our people, our businesses and our communities.

However, we also recognized that our government was living beyond its means. We knew that if we didn’t make changes, the good work we had planned would soon be overtaken by serious fiscal challenges.

It was apparent that, to realize our vision, we as the 16th Assembly would need to correct our financial course and make some courageous and aggressive decisions.

Many of the measures we have taken or suggested have been controversial, but they have produced the desired result and as recession has taken hold, our region is in better shape than many in Canada to weather the economic downturn.

Meanwhile, as a government, we are moving forward with a plan, five strategic pillars that are focusing and organizing our work and initiatives to meet the goals that we share as an Assembly.

Our plan is built around the 16th Assembly’s vision:

Northerners Working Together. It is responsive to the priorities that we have identified. Most importantly, it is focussed firmly on achieving the potential of our future.

In March -- and in the face of rising economic uncertainty in Canada, and around the world -- we took a bold and uncompromising approach to investing in this future. Our government introduced and passed, with overwhelming support, a $1.2 billion budget focused exclusively on investment in our people, our economy and our environment.

There will be a cost to our approach that will require us to carry some debt. Significant fiscal discipline will still be needed. But we will manage our debt in order to provide the support and stimulus that NWT residents need to receive from their government to get through these times.

I would like to commend Members of this Assembly for their guidance, words, and commitment in making the tough decisions that we have made today. Today, as we return to this Assembly, I do so with a strong sense of confidence that we are on the right track with the growing reassurance that our plan is the right plan for the times. Much of what we have done to date has been ground work setting the stage for the second half of our term as an Assembly. Improved processes and investments that I believe have and will, and are already, paying dividends. We have increased our investment in capital spending.

We have also made a fundamental change in our budget process to get projects underway faster, encouraging more bids, increasingly competitive quotes, and providing cost savings and efficiency for our budgets.

These are the times in which our role as government is to provide stability and support for the economy, to act as a counterweight and to provide the economic stimulus needed to maintain employment and sustain economic activity until the private sector can recover.

We will be investing $246 million in capital spending this year. Our Infrastructure Investment Plan will inject over $700 million into the NWT economy over the next five years. By providing business opportunities and employment for Northerners this record level of capital investment is serving to counter some of the challenges being faced by reduced activity in our mining and oil and gas sectors.

We know that, in time, the nature and magnitude of our region’s natural resources will allow us to rebound from the challenges that now exist. So we are also investing in new initiatives that will help us maximize economic opportunities in our future, promoting the NWT as a place to live and do business, making investments to reduce the cost of living, implementing programs that diversify the economy and encourage our residents to enhance their skills and training.

Particularly when it comes to our northern business community, we are working to protect and sustain the economic capacity that we have built, and to preserve and maintain the potential that exists in our people, our businesses and our communities. Ironically, this time of economic transition has allowed us to cast a spotlight on our Territory as a jurisdiction whose economic potential and success still promises to have direct and significant positive impacts on other provinces and territories in Canada.

With this increased awareness to the North, with the strength of our resource potential, and with the current need for economic stimulus across our nation, I believe that the opportunities that we have long sought as residents of the NWT are as close as they have ever been. But we will need to work together and we will need to have the courage and conviction to see our plan through, to remain focused on the potential that exists for our Territory, and to keep our work firmly focused on the vision and goals that we have set out.

Mr. Speaker I look forward to sitting down with Members in that spirit of consensus that we have all recently endorsed and defined. A strong and independent North is going to have to be built on partnerships. As Members of the 16th Assembly we are, first and foremost, Northerners Working Together. And this is the greatest and most important source from which I am drawing my confidence for our future. I know that our spirit as Northerners is strong and vibrant. We have a vision. We have a plan. It is based firmly on the enormous potential that our Territory holds in its resources, its people, and its spirit. Quyanainni, thank you.

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Minister’s Statement 68-16(3): Sessional Statement

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland . Item 3, Members’ statements. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe , Mr. Beaulieu .

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Transfer Of Government-Owned Assets To Communities

Members’ Statements

Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Today I would like to speak about the transfer of government assets to communities. More specifically, the transfer of government-owned buildings and government-owned mobile equipment, and the transfer of resources that supports the operation and maintenance of these assets under the New Deal with the Department of MACA.

With respect to government-owned buildings, I am talking about an evaluation of the deferred maintenance and the development of a

schedule

for preventive maintenance program, mid-life retrofits, and the realistic replacement costs for all assets, including mobile equipment and buildings. In addition, there will be a need for preventive maintenance programs and, again, replacement budget costs for assets. Special equipment that will be needed, like equipment to maintain chipseal and other dust suppressants, must also be budgeted for future years.

Often in these transfers the related O and M component of the asset is not included or duly considered. Communities must be given a fair opportunity to receive these assets and have the required capacity to operate and maintain these assets without adversely impacting on the current or planned program services.

Mr. Speaker, when it comes to transferring assets to smaller isolated communities, such as Lutselk’e and Fort Resolution, this government needs to look at these transfers on a case-by-case basis to properly evaluate the merits of the transfer and allow the communities every opportunity to succeed. Mr. Speaker, of course, this approach must be used for transferring government-owned mobile equipment to the communities also.

Mr. Speaker, with respect to the O and M component, this government must be flexible and work with the communities to ensure that all elements with a capacity have been identified and addressed. Mr. Speaker, this approach will help both the government and the communities, and the communities will not be in the position where the costs are greater than what they received from the GNWT. Also, Mr. Speaker, this will ensure there are no costly breakdowns and/or interrupted services to our constituents.

Later on, I will have questions for the Minister of MACA . Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Media Coverage Of Governor General’s Visit To Rankin Inlet

Members’ Statements

Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I could hardly believe my ears last night as I listened to interviews in the national media chastising our Governor General as she visited the community of Rankin Inlet on her Arctic tour.

Governor General Michaelle Jean showed respect to her host by participating and partaking with them in an age honoured tradition of sharing the rewards of the hunt and of the harvest, in this case the consumption of seal meat. I doubt if those being interviewed representing the views of lobby, special interest organizations, who protest the harvesting of

animals for human sustenance and financial support, have any idea of what life is really like in the North.

---Applause

I doubt if they understand the cost of living, the cost of food, the cost of maintaining a family in an Arctic community, as they observe from the comfort of their homes in southern Canada. There is nothing disrespectful about using the bounty and riches of the land to clothe and feed ourselves as Northerners when it is done in keeping with the acknowledgement and practice of sustainability and stewardship.

Mr. Speaker, our statistics would indicate that many, many people in Nunavut and the Northwest Territories derive income and support and supplement their other activities by the harvesting and their traditional activities. Hats off to the traditional knowledge and traditional practices of northern hunters, trappers and harvesters who supplement their diet and their household income in the pursuit of these traditional activities. Shame on those who would criticize our Governor General for taking an interest in the people of the North, visiting and attempting to understand their culture and their traditions.

It would do some of these organizations well to invest some of their efforts into awareness and promoting and supporting of the preservation of our indigenous people and their culture, who have for time immemorial relied on the land to sustain them. Again, I’d like to thank the Governor General for her interest in the North, in its issues and its people. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Krutko .

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Fact Finding Mission To Scandinavia To Examine Climate Change Technologies

Members’ Statements

David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, on a recent trip to Scandinavia, which got a lot of public press…

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Members’ Statements

David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

I think it’s very important to realize this was not a junket and I think we have to face the reality that the Northwest Territories and the potential we have for the forest sector, some 30 million hectares of forest that we have around our communities, down the valley and, more importantly, this is a resource that has been harvested in the Northwest Territories by aboriginal people for thousands of years, not only as a heat source but, more importantly to provide them with building goods and services, from their log homes to their boats and also developing our communities.

Mr. Speaker, I think it’s important to realize that as Northerners, we do have an obligation in the Kyoto Protocol, what effect is seen by climate change, and do something different than the dependency we have on fossil fuels in the Northwest Territories, from generating our power to heating our homes to running our public infrastructure. We do have to deal with this issue seriously, and seriously look at the policies, procedures and programs that this government has and enact policies that were established in Scandinavia some 30 years ago where they are totally not dependent on fossil fuels.

They use all the biomass products within their jurisdictions, and more important is the $2 billion industry to these countries.

Again, Mr. Speaker, I think it’s important to realize the potential this has by way of economic development for our communities. We have to realize the sawmills we generate in our communities, where most of us growing up in the Northwest Territories had sawmills in our communities. More importantly, to use the log industry and work with those communities that have developed a sawmill, such as Jean Marie, and use the wood products and byproducts that they have in that community to establish biomass systems to heat their schools, to run their power plants. This potential is there. It’s there for us to use and, more importantly, to make the effort and the attempt to move forward.

Mr. Speaker, we spend $15 million a year dealing with forest fires in the Northwest Territories. There are byproducts from these forest fires that can be used to consider biomass, which most people consider dead trees. The same thing with regard to cutlines. We have cutlines in the Northwest Territories…

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted.

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Members’ Statements

David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, as we all know, with industrial development in the Northwest Territories such as cutlines and the possibility of a pipeline down the Mackenzie Valley, they are going to be destroying trillions of board feet of lumber that could be used for biomass and industry. We have to be serious, as government, as Northerners, that we have to stop wastage of our resources in the Northwest Territories and use, reuse and find ways to reduce the cost of living in our communities by way of our energy costs and our dependence on fossil fuels. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko . The honourable Member for Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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National Day Of Healing And Reconciliation Of Residential School Survivors

Members’ Statements

Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yesterday was the National Day of Healing and Reconciliation of residential schools in Canada. The date is sponsored by the Nechi Institute of Alberta, the Aboriginal Healing Foundation and Presbyterian churches in Canada.

In October of 2005, this Assembly formally recognized the day by a motion in this House. We are still the only Legislature in Canada to officially recognize this important annual event. We passed this motion in support of our communities, our families and individuals who attended our residential schools and who continue to endure the impact of the residential school system and to recognize the seriousness the impact of the residential schools had on aboriginal people of the North. I thank all my fellow Members for your commitment to this.

The objectives of the National Day of Healing and Reconciliation are to create a positive collective healing and reconciliation movement within our families, communities, churches and our government on May 26th of each year; to educate

ourselves and other Canadians about our collective history of our government policies, which impacted aboriginal communities and other groups, and to develop commemoration sites and encourage communities to join in the National Day of Healing and Reconciliation.

Mr. Speaker, families continue to be affected by the effects of the residential school experience on the former students and their families. We all want the best for our families. At times that means getting on the healing path.

Communities have taken initiatives to deal with impacts of residential schools and with the support of the Aboriginal Healing Foundation, we have heard of many projects that will happen in our communities. The government needs to continue to support these people, so they can hold more healing wellness workshops, have access to cultural counselling and have traditional healing camps.

In preparation of this day, I reread the Hansard from 2005 and when the House passed this motion to support the National Day of Healing and Reconciliation, and I was moved when reading the many statements of that Assembly about their own experience and the experience of their family members in the residential school systems. Many of the Members of that Assembly, of course, are in the House today.

In closing, Mr. Speaker, I understand the Bishop of the Mackenzie Diocese is meeting with the Dene leadership this afternoon in Inuvik and will ask for forgiveness and to say that the church is sorry for its role in displaying…

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Mr. Yakeleya , your time for your Member’s statement has expired.

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I ask for unanimous consent to continue.

---Unanimous consent granted.

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

…the church is sorry for its role in its attempt at assimilation of aboriginal people of the North. This is one more step in the healing journey, but more and more and more must be done. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . The honourable Member for Weledeh , Mr. Bromley .

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Fact Finding Mission To Scandinavia To Examine Climate Change Technologies

Members’ Statements

Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As mentioned, my colleague Mr. Krutko and I just returned from a fact-finding trip to Denmark, Sweden and Finland...

---Laughter

…on behalf of the Joint Committee on Climate Change. The work was in recognition of the need to reduce territorial greenhouse gas emissions and to reduce our cost of living. Our goals were to learn about the technologies that Scandinavians have developed to economically produce heat and electricity and organic material on a neighbourhood to small community scale, to determine whether this technology and practice is potentially applicable in the Northwest Territories and to determine the costs and benefits of this approach.

These countries have replaced huge amounts of fossil fuels with renewable energy and are well along towards achieving new European targets of 30 to 50 percent of all energy requirements to be met with renewable energy by 2020, 11 years from now. Biomass for heat and power is a big part of their success.

The Scandinavians have developed a suite of biomass appliances, from small scale furnaces suitable to individual buildings to a range of boilers that service the heating requirements from

neighbourhoods to small communities. They now also commonly generate electricity from large biomass plants and they are beginning to scale these down to sizes appropriate to our communities. For example, we learned of systems that generate about two megawatts of heat and 500 kilowatts of power suitable for NWT communities of about 500 people.

Fuel for these systems is primarily wood chips made from chipping small trees, branches, stumps from locally managed forests. Here in the Northwest Territories, of course, we have 33 million hectares of forest to draw on and only 42,000 people to service.

The mechanized wood harvesting and transportation industry, which relies on GPS directions to wood resources, provides many local jobs and enterprises. Systems in the neighbourhood to $200,000 to $300,000 in cost were fully automated, being visited only twice a week by operators for a few minutes, and they are very suitable for our northern communities.

Scandinavians have developed a number of policies which achieved rapid and wide adoption of this technology, considerable employment, a new export industry and significant reductions in greenhouse gas emissions.

Mr. Speaker, I look forward to further sharing and government action on the significant opportunities available with biomass and to discussing the implications to our review of electricity rates, cost of living, NCPC and ATCO proposal reviews. Mahsi.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . The honourable Member for Kam Lake , Mr. Ramsay .

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Proposed Northern Development Agency

Members’ Statements

David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to speak today about the proposed Northern Development Agency and whether or not our government is making any progress in discussions with the federal government on bringing this agency’s headquarters to the Northwest Territories. I also would like to know what the federal government’s intentions are when it comes to the future of northern development.

This new agency supposedly would consolidate existing northern development activities into one which, Mr. Speaker, I am fully supportive of. The announcement was made late last year and we still do not know where the agency will be located. The case has got to be made by our government as well as aboriginal governments located in the Northwest Territories that the Northwest Territories is best suited as a location for this new agency. Obviously, we are centrally located between our sister territories and have tremendous potential for

resource and economic development well into the future, all of which should and needs to be taken into consideration by the federal government when determining a location for this agency.

In March, I spoke of job postings pertaining to northern development which are located in Gatineau, Quebec. To me, Mr. Speaker, it is absurd that bureaucrats in Ottawa and Gatineau are making decisions about the future development of the three northern territories without actually being physically located in the North. I have hazarded a guess that many have never been north of 60. The NWT is poised to develop a multi-billion dollar Mackenzie Gas Project, yet there are 29 positions in Gatineau that pertain to northern oil and gas.

Where is our government at when it comes to encouraging the federal government to locate these positions where they rightfully belong, which is in the North? During the 14th Assembly, I believe there

was some work conducted by former Premier Stephen Kakfwi’s government to research and determine which federal positions existed in the capital region that could be relocated to the North. My suggestions to our government today is that they move immediately to catalogue these positions and coordinate an effort with the Yukon government and the Government of Nunavut to lobby the federal government to put positions involved in northern development on the ground where they will have the greatest impact. That, Mr. Speaker, is in the three northern territories.

Devolution or no devolution, the positions belong here. It is plain and simple, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted.

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Proposed Northern Development Agency

Members’ Statements

David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Devolution may take many more years to negotiate. At a minimum, the federal government must be made to recognize that northern development positions belong in the North. I believe it is the job of this government to examine the positions that exist and present a case to the federal government. Let’s convince them that these jobs would mean more to us, more for our economy and more for the development of our Territory as a whole if they were in fact located in the North.

Mr. Speaker, devolution will come, but why can’t the jobs come first? Mahsi.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The honourable Member for Great Slave , Mr. Abernethy .

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GNWT Response To Supplementary Health Benefits Motion

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, during the February-March 2009 session of this Legislative Assembly, I put forward a motion asking Cabinet to defer the implementation of the changes they are proposing to the supplemental health benefits currently being offered by this government. The motion passed with all 11 Regular Members supporting the motion and Cabinet abstaining.

After the motion passed, the Minister of Health and Social Services indicated that the government would not be moving forward with their implementation. Rather, in Committee of the Whole on February 10, 2009, according to the unedited Hansard of the day, the Minister of Health and Social Services said, “With respect to the review of the changes on the supplementary health, I just want to state again that I will be coming forward to the Standing Committee on Social Programs, with a timeline and outline and some of the framework for the review.

I expect that we will do that when this session is over, if that’s okay. The officials are working on that so that we can have a document starting point and to get the input from the standing committee, and then after that we can move forward with public consultation and more of a back and forth information exchange.”

I think the past two months have shown that not only we hear the public but then there is information the public will benefit from having as well. I look forward to that situation and that work. But I have heard that the Minister’s statement had indicated that the officials were working on that. I had hoped that we would be hearing back from the Minister shortly after the last session.

Unfortunately, it has been almost four months, exactly 106 days and there had been no official response to our presentation made to the Standing Committee on Social Programs. To me, this is unacceptable. Given the importance of this and the fact that April 1, 2010, is rapidly approaching, further delay limits the ability of Regular Members and the public from providing real input into the process and the final result. It also further limits the ability of the department to implement the approved program in a reasonable and responsible manner.

Implementation in a reasonable manner will take months of upfront work. People of the North still have questions on the direction the government will take with respect to supplemental health. There is still uncertainty. As a government, we need to ensure that the people who may be affected are aware of what is going on. Will there be any changes? Will things stay the same as they currently are? Who will be involved in the review of what is going to be done? Regardless of this

direction, the people of the NWT deserve to know what the direction will be.

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted.

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GNWT Response To Supplementary Health Benefits Motion

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Regardless of the direction this government is taking, the people of the NWT deserve to know what that direction will be. The Minister must live up to her commitment to provide a framework. The Minister must remove the uncertainty that the people are currently experiencing. Mr. Speaker, at the appropriate time, I will be asking the Minister of Health and Social Services questions on this topic. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . The honourable Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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Implementation Of 911 Telephone Service

Members’ Statements

Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Mr. Speaker, I have often spoken before about the need for 911 phone service in Yellowknife and the rest of the NWT. Members are likely aware that the City of Yellowknife this week received the results of a feasibility study for the implementation of 911 in the city and throughout our Territory. As an aside, it is important to note that the GNWT was a fully participating member of the study’s management committee. Not surprisingly, the recommendation from this report is that 911 service should be established in seven of our 33 communities to start and that it be expanded to the other 26 communities as soon as possible.

Hard on the heels of this report and its recommendation, I have to again state how crucial it is that this government recognize our duty to take

part in the establishment of this service. The need for 911 has been talked about for over a decade now. The City of Yellowknife has completed not one but two studies as they try to solve the implementation riddle. The GNWT coroner in 2001 articulated the need for 911 service and attributed a death in 2000 to the lack of that service.

The NWT is one of only two jurisdictions in Canada who lacks this service. It is time for us, the GNWT, to get off the pot, so to speak, and accept that it is our responsibility in a moral and a financial sense to assist in the provision of 911 service.

Just last weekend, Mr. Speaker, I heard the Minister of MACA say that the government will only be involved in the implementation of 911 service if that service is provided to all communities in the NWT at the same time. Is that realistic? Not at all, in my opinion. The Minister cited a very real lack of phone infrastructure in most of our small communities and that one community should not have 911 service where another does not. This attitude will delay implementation of any 911

service by at least five to 10 years as we wait for our phone company to upgrade lines and provide the necessary telephone exchanges. That is unacceptable, Mr. Speaker. We must start now in those communities that already have the appropriate infrastructure and not deny the majority of NWT residents a much needed public safety service.

We are already beginning to think about our 2010-2011 budget and what our strategic investment priorities should be for that budget. A stated goal of this Assembly is sustainable, vibrant, safe communities. The best way for this Assembly to accomplish that goal is to plan for and fund the implementation of 911 service in the identified seven communities.

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted.

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Implementation Of 911 Telephone Service

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

We must stop making excuses for our lack of commitment to a 911 initiative. Stop dithering about our responsibility and our duty to participate in the provision of 911 service. We have to bite the bullet and do the right thing. The GNWT must partner with the City of Yellowknife and get the implementation of 911 service on its way. I will have questions for the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs later on. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Closure Of John Tsetso Memorial Public Library

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Mr. Speaker, the residents of Fort Simpson are concerned because with the closure of the old Deh Cho Hall, the John Tsetso Memorial Library is gone. Over the years, with one full-time staff member, the community library has been a place to browse, to pick up reading material for youth and adults. As well, the library has offered literacy programs and various activities including movie night, opportunities for adults to purchase books, to read to children, readings by visiting authors and access to computers and Internet.

I would also like to thank the members of the Standing Committee on Economic Development and Infrastructure who were visiting Fort Simpson. I took them on a short tour to see where the library had been and how our library is presently reduced to a resource centre. It offers only the use of computers and access to books on-line. Residents want at least the same standard of library that they had in the past. In the Public Library Act designation that came into force on April 15, 2009,

the John Tsetso Memorial Library continues to be designated as a public library.

A community of 1,200 people deserve a good library, especially since the community has made good use of it. We have benefited greatly in the past and we want our youth and adults to continue to enjoy the services of a public library. In fact, a region of our size -- about 4,200 residents -- could benefit from a regional library located centrally in Fort Simpson. Such a library could house a larger collection of books and these could be circulated to our smaller communities.

I continue to support and encourage the Department of Education, Culture and Employment to help Fort Simpson work towards a solution. I believe that having the John Tsetso Memorial Library designated as a regional library is the best solution. This will allow for proper planning of a permanent facility and for a solution for Fort Simpson and residents of the Deh Cho region. Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker.

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Closure Of John Tsetso Memorial Public Library

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . The honourable Member for Nunakput , Mr. Jacobson .

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Condolences To Constituents’ Families That Have Suffered The Loss Of Loved Ones

Members’ Statements

Jackie Jacobson

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In following my routine and in respect to a Member’s statement, the first day of every session will always be paying respect to the people who have passed away and their families and friends in my riding of Nunakput.

Mr. Speaker, since the last sitting of the Assembly there have been many deaths in our community, in our region. Tuktoyaktuk has experienced all of the losses. Today I give condolences to the family and friends of Jean Komeak and condolences to Jimmy and family; to Donna Steen and to her children, Charlene, Nicole, and William; to Christina Noksana, condolences to David and family; and to Kyler Jacobson, condolences to Jim Jacobson and his mother Mavis Adjun and family. The community of Tuktoyaktuk is close knit. The loss of one is deeply impacted by all of us, but the loss of four in such a short time has been much more difficult for all of us.

Mr. Speaker, I wish to give condolences to all of the people in the Northwest Territories who have lost loved ones in the past few months. Our thoughts and prayers are with your families. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Jacobson . The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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On-Line Petitions

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I’d like to talk to Members about a relevant issue that happened two weeks ago in the New Brunswick Legislature. It all started when a retired school administrator, Frank Taylor, was forced to borrow $35,000 after he was diagnosed with cancer. The drug he needs is not covered by the provincial medical plan. Mr. Taylor collected almost 7,500 names on a petition, but when the Conservative health critic presented the petition to the Legislature, the acting Speaker was forced to reject it. The reason for the rejection was that more than 4,000 names were collected on-line.

The Legislature’s rules require that petitions tabled include signatures. But with general agreement in the Legislature that Members would like to accept the on-line petition for tabling, the Liberal House Leader said it was about time to modernize their rules overseeing petitions. Thus, the antiquated rules will be discussed the next time the Legislature’s Procedures committee convenes.

Although it’s unclear how the technical aspects will be handled, the New Brunswick Legislature is willing to look at this in a modern context. Therefore, it is reasonable, here in the North, when we need to consider the vast distance and diversity, to consider, possibly, the idea of on-line petitions. Of course, it would take some updating of our rules to reflect that process.

Although in New Brunswick the petition was from a 71-year-old man, such a petition might come forward from younger northern people too. What do we do, for instance, if northern students wanted to exercise their concern about the cuts to the scholarship program in a method they are familiar with such as an on-line petition? Such a case exists now, Mr. Speaker, on Facebook with about 280 signatures that ask for the cuts to be reversed. However, rules, of course, say that we could not accept their petition.

Our northern students are spread throughout Canada and, of course, the North, and just maybe an on-line petition is the only way they could rally their concern in a respectable, reasonable and certainly a timely way.

It’s been my experience that far too often people will criticize our young folks for not getting involved or even taking action. Perhaps part of the blame lies on this process in that it’s old, antiquated and it doesn’t reflect young people in a meaningful way.

Mr. Speaker, I hope someday soon this House will be willing to begin research and examine the guidelines and consider on-line petitions, because when people, young or old, feel strongly about a matter, they should be heard, regardless if it’s an on-line petition.

Mr. Speaker, in closing, if we don’t consider this issue, the voice of democracy will fall silent on a

generation that demands to be heard. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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On-Line Petitions

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Yellowknife South , Mr. McLeod.

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’m pleased to recognize my biggest supporter and wife of 35-plus years, Melody McLeod. Also, my sister-in-law, Evelyn McLeod, former long-time resident of Yellowknife who now lives in Cambellford, Ontario. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It’s my pleasure today to recognize a constituent of Frame Lake, Ms. Barb Wyness, who is up behind me in the gallery representing the UNW, I believe. If there are any other constituents of mine up there who I can’t see, welcome to the Leg.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . The honourable Member for Deh Cho , Mr. Michael McLeod .

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, over the last while we’ve heard many comments about the number of McLeods in the House. So I’d like to welcome a few more reinforcements. Two of my sisters-in-law are here. I’d like to welcome them both: Melody and Evelyn. Thank you for coming. I’d also like to recognize Rocky Simpson from Hay River. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d also like to recognize my constituent, Mr. Rocky Simpson. In a time of economic downturn, he’s fighting the odds and expanding his business at a great pace in Hay River. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . The honourable Member for Kam Lake , Mr. Ramsay .

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to recognize Mr. Byrne Richards, a constituent, who is with us in the gallery today. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to take the time to recognize one of our Pages, Ms. Paige Elkin. She’s a constituent in Yellowknife

Centre as well as my kids’ favourite babysitter. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . The honourable Member for Range Lake , Ms. Lee .

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I’d like to recognize Blake Lyons, who is president of the Yellowknife Seniors’ Society. I’d also like to recognize Byrne Richards, who is executive director of Aurora Osprey Society, and Heidi-Ann Wild, who is a constituent of Range Lake.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee . The honourable Member for Weledeh , Mr. Bromley .

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

I’d like to recognize Baptiste Foisey, who is…Many people have seen migratory birds returning; we also have our students returning. So welcome back to Baptiste. I’m told he will be on the job today.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . Recognition of visitors in the gallery. I’d like to recognize a couple of constituents in the gallery. I’d like to recognize Roy Courtoreille, regional vice-president for UNW, in the gallery. Also Kathy McBryan is in the gallery today. Welcome to the gallery. If we’ve missed anyone else in the gallery today, welcome to the House. I hope you’re enjoying the proceedings.

Item 6, acknowledgements. Item 7, oral questions. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Krutko .

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Question 336-16(3): Biomass Initiatives In Smaller Communities

Oral Questions

David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Environment in regard to the biomass initiative in Scandinavia. I think it took them 30 years to get to where they are today. We don’t have 30 years. I’d like to ask the Minister, in light of the efforts by this government to look at biomass, which are mostly taking place in larger centres, what is this government doing to ensure that we are able to put biomass projects into communities such as Jean Marie or other communities who have resources or have the assets in those communities and expand those systems so that we can cut down our dependence on fossil fuels during the term of this government?

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Question 336-16(3): Biomass Initiatives In Smaller Communities

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko . The honourable Minister responsible for Environment and Natural Resources , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Question 336-16(3): Biomass Initiatives In Smaller Communities

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This government has earmarked and this Assembly has approved a significant amount of money, for the first time ever, towards alternative

energy, one of those sources being biomass. And, yes, we have on the books a pilot project that we’d like to look at. In Jean Marie, we’re looking at expanded waste recovery. We’re looking at wood pellets both in institutions and in communities. We want to move that plan forward. We’re waiting, with considerable interest, on the specific recommendations that the Member is going to bring forward with his colleague Mr. Bromley as a result of their fact finding trip to Scandinavia where they learned very many valuable things that they can share with us that will help us set our policy base and direction going forward as a government.

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Question 336-16(3): Biomass Initiatives In Smaller Communities

Oral Questions

David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

I believe that this government has to consider pilot projects of some sort. We have two budget cycles left to go and I think it’s important that we get some of these projects off the ground and show the smaller communities that they also are part of the equation of this biomass strategy that this government is considering. I’d like to ask the Minister if there is a possibility of seeing some of these projects, such as Jean Marie, put forward by way of pilot projects so that we can move on it before the next budget cycle. I believe it’s this fall.

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Question 336-16(3): Biomass Initiatives In Smaller Communities

Oral Questions

Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Yes, there have been millions of dollars voted for this year, in the neighbourhood of $15 million or so, to get us started on the very many projects, both in biomass, wind, possibly geothermal, mini-hydro. There is a whole host of areas that we want to do work. Now it is incumbent upon us to roll out the work plans and the implementation, to get as many of these projects towards the construction stage as possible.

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Question 336-16(3): Biomass Initiatives In Smaller Communities

Oral Questions

David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

I also believe that this is a project that can stimulate a lot of our small, aboriginal communities by way of development and by way of developing for a sector around our communities. I’d like to ask the Minister in regards to looking at the forest management strategies that we have and considering the usage of these wood products in our communities, around our communities, so that we can get more usage out of those wood products and depending, continuing to use fossil fuels.

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Question 336-16(3): Biomass Initiatives In Smaller Communities

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

As we move as a government on our very ambitious alternative Energy Strategy on the area of biomass, very clearly one of the issues for us as a Legislature and a government is the pursuit of the secondary industry that would see us be able to manufacture wood pellets, set up communities and regions to be able to do the chipping or the pelletizing that may be necessary, to look at the employment opportunities, to work with communities as well to combine some of the value-added benefits of biomass with the concern in communities in the boreal forest to be better fireproofed when it comes to wildfire where we could set out bands of forest around the communities to be managed and maintained over the years, to offer protection as

well as a source of energy. There is a whole piece of work here that has to be done. The frame has to be put in place. This is a long-term commitment. This is our very first steps. We want to make sure we set the right foundation. We agree with the Member; this is very important.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Final supplementary, Mr. Krutko .

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

As we all know, nothing gets done in this government without some sort of a policy. I’d like to ask the Minister, is there a policy being developed that can basically enhance the use of biofuels in the Northwest Territories and also ensure that the programs and services this government delivers considers that as a means of meeting the goals of the Northwest Territories by way of reducing greenhouse gases and our dependency on fossil fuels?

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Question 336-16(3): Biomass Initiatives In Smaller Communities

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Work is being done by ENR. The work has been done and supported by the Climate Change Committee and the Ministerial Energy Coordinating Committee as well as Managing This Land when it comes to these various issues of the biomass strategy, moving forward with the technology, the issue, the impact on greenhouse gases, all those are part of the variable that we are considering as we deal with this issue as a government.

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Question 336-16(3): Biomass Initiatives In Smaller Communities

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Question 337-16(3): Establishment Of Independent Northern University

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The need for an independent and permanent Yellowknife Campus for Aurora College has been an issue that’s long overdue in our city. It’s a demand and something that people want. I’d like to reference the Slave River Journal, our fine Premier just the other day, it says that a northern university is something that needs to be looked at. I can reference the Globe and Mail, our Excellency Michaelle Jean said forcefully that we need a northern university.

Even going back to 2006, the Minister of ECE said he will do a cost-benefit analysis to constructing a new college campus, and certainly their lease has been renewed in 2007, which expires in 2012. My question, with also the support of the board of governors and the former education Ministers suggesting we need an independent campus in Yellowknife for Aurora College: What has the Minister done to date or will he be able to update this Assembly on where this process is about establishing an independent Aurora College in Yellowknife?

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Question 337-16(3): Establishment Of Independent Northern University

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . The honourable Minister responsible for Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Lafferty .

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Question 337-16(3): Establishment Of Independent Northern University

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. First of all I think we need to be proud of our northern college that we have here in the North, the three campuses that we have. I would consider them as a college and also a university because we do deliver university programs, degree programs that we’re actively pursuing and other programs as well. So with the standalone university, I think we already see that in the Northwest Territories. Every time we meet with the board of governors, certainly that topic of discussion has been discussed and it’s part of a long-term planning basis for the whole Northwest Territories. So whether it be in Yellowknife, Inuvik or Fort Smith, those are the discussions that are ongoing.

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

I appreciate the Minister for answering every question, but the one I asked is: Where is the cost-benefit analysis on the process of looking at putting the Aurora College that’s downtown on its own independent campus to establish itself in its own right?

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Question 337-16(3): Establishment Of Independent Northern University

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

I do believe I answered the Member’s question on the college itself, the university that he is referring to. As I stated, we are still…It’s all preliminary right now. We’re working with the facts that we have before us. As the Member alluded to, previous Ministers have been discussing this. It was a discussion item at that time. We are working on that with the communities, with the board of governors as well. Because we can, certainly on that portion on our end alone, we continue to strive to make that part of the capital plans for the next few years.

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Would the Minister be willing to supply that information provided through that cost-benefit analysis that was committed back in 2006 to be done, that would establish a view of establishing a long-term, permanent campus here in Yellowknife that’s independent?

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Certainly I can provide…My department can provide the information that’s available to the Members, not just from the Yellowknife Centre Member but all Members as well. We do have the facts in place, the discussion paper that’s been discussed at that time and where we’re going with it. Also, the board of governors meeting that we had, the minutes of the meeting, there’s been a paper trail that’s been documented, so we can certainly provide that to the Members.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Final supplementary, Mr. Hawkins .

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

The Minister said this issue is raised every time he meets with the board of governors and he’s certainly said that this is a long-

term plan of, I assume, his department or the focus of this government. What exactly is the long-term plan and what is his response to the board of governors in reflection of that long-term plan about establishing an independent campus here in Yellowknife on its own property and its own facility to help our students?

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Question 337-16(3): Establishment Of Independent Northern University

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Certainly part of the long-term plans that we talked about within our department and also with the board of governors with Aurora College is strengthening our program delivery through Aurora College. The three campuses that we have here in the Northwest Territories, we need to strengthen that and make it exposed to all the students that are here in the Northwest Territories. Also, we have students from outside the Northwest Territories that attend our college as well. It has been a northern college recognition also going on to national recognition as a college. We do offer university courses as well.

But this will be part of our strategic direction going forward. How can we develop a plan where we have a university in the Northwest Territories?

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Question 337-16(3): Establishment Of Independent Northern University

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . The honourable Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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Question 338-16(3): Implementation Of 911 Telephone Service

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are directed to the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs and , as I mentioned in my statement, the Government of the Northwest Territories was a full participating member on the City of Yellowknife’s 911 Management Committee. Given our government’s participation on that management committee, I would like to ask the Minister to articulate the government’s position regarding the need and urgency for 911 service in the NWT.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . The honourable Minister responsible for Municipal and Community Affairs , Mr. Robert McLeod .

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Question 338-16(3): Implementation Of 911 Telephone Service

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The government’s position is they recognize that there is a need to provide a service across the Northwest Territories. I remember for a few times in the seven communities…We oversee all 33 communities in the Northwest Territories. This speaks well to the wide range of services offered across the Northwest Territories. We have so many small communities that would just like to have the cell phone service to be able to go to the next level.

This is something that we have to sit back and have a look and make sure it’s something that benefits all 33 communities and if it’s the desire, and I still have to bring the report to Cabinet. It was my intention to bring it to Cabinet within the next week or so to get Cabinet’s feedback and then

come up with a position and the next step as far as we’re concerned.

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Question 338-16(3): Implementation Of 911 Telephone Service

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

I thank the Minister for his remarks. I can’t argue with the Minister’s statement that we have communities that are lacking such things as basic cell phone service. However, the report recommends that the seven communities -- and I’ll mention them: Behchoko, Fort Simpson, Fort Smith, Hay River, Inuvik, Norman Wells, and Yellowknife -- that those seven communities should start the implementation of 911 and then we move on to other communities later on. Those seven communities comprise some 77 percent of our population. That’s more than three-quarters of our NWT population.

They will be targeted with 911 if we implement it in these communities. So I would like to ask the Minister whether or not the funding of a 911 for these seven communities will be a priority for the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs or any GNWT department in the 2010-2011 budget.

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Question 338-16(3): Implementation Of 911 Telephone Service

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

I appreciate the Member’s comments that these seven communities make up 77 percent of the population in the Northwest Territories. That’s one of the reasons I need to bring this to Cabinet and get Cabinet’s opinion on the report and see where we can go from here. If it’s partial implementation, then we would have to consider if it’s the desire of this Assembly. Of course, it would have to go through the whole budgeting process and have approval from this Legislative Assembly to implement partial service.

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Question 338-16(3): Implementation Of 911 Telephone Service

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

I appreciate where the Minister is coming from. I realize that there is a budget process that has to be gone through. I am hoping that we will get some certainty on funding to at least start 911. It’s been said many times: Presumably our government is all about partnerships. Even today our Premier has stated a strong and independent North is going to have to be built on partnerships. So I’d like to know whether or not MACA is willing to consider a partnership with the City of Yellowknife to start the much needed implementation of 911 service.

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Question 338-16(3): Implementation Of 911 Telephone Service

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Absolutely. Again, not only just with the City of Yellowknife. The Member talked about seven communities. So if there’s a possibility of partnering with the seven communities to put together a plan for partial implementation and figuring out the costs and making sure that goes through this Legislative Assembly, then it’s something that we would seriously consider.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Final supplementary, Ms. Bisaro .

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thanks to the Minister. At the risk of debating with the Minister, I’d like to suggest that a partnership with the City of Yellowknife is required to get this process started. I’d like to know if the Minister will agree to start a partnership with the

City of Yellowknife and expand that to other communities as the project gets rolling. We certainly can start a project with seven communities.

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

We’re going to have a chance to look at the report and analyze the report and cost figures and how it would be best to implement this. But, of course, once we do that, we would be willing to -- seeing as it was the City of Yellowknife that put together the report with some input and participation of the GNWT -- sit down with them and try to roll out the next step. Hopefully this can carry on to the other seven communities, which is a start, then hopefully get the rest of the communities in the NWT on board with this.

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Question 338-16(3): Implementation Of 911 Telephone Service

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Great Slave , Mr. Abernethy .

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Question 339-16(3): GNWT Response To Supplementary Health Benefits Motion

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are for the Minister responsible for Health and Social Services and are in follow-up to my Member’s statement from earlier today. As I indicated earlier, it’s been 106 days, almost four months, since the Minister indicated that she would be meeting with the Social Programs committee to provide them with a timeline and outline the framework for the review of the Supplementary Health Program. To date there has been no briefing or no briefing has been conducted.

Could the Minister please give me an update on where the Department of Health and Social Services is with respect to reviewing the provision of supplemental health benefit services in the Northwest Territories?

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Question 339-16(3): GNWT Response To Supplementary Health Benefits Motion

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . The honourable Minister responsible for Health and Social Services , Ms. Lee .

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Question 339-16(3): GNWT Response To Supplementary Health Benefits Motion

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do appreciate the need for a little bit of drama, but I don’t know where the Member gets this 107 days. The motion was passed on February 8th . I think

everybody understands how busy our session was for six weeks. Our session did not finish until March 13th . Everybody went off to a break for two weeks.

Now, for the last seven weeks -- that’s 75 days -- the department and officials have been working to see how we do this better than we had done before. I have talked to the Member and said that we won’t go into really getting into the work until the session was over. So now I have written to the standing committee chair this morning. I said, as I’ve always indicated privately, that we will not move ahead without talking to the committee first. What we are proposing to do is we have set up an interdepartmental committee that will look at income security models and other frameworks that

we could use to review some health programs. As well, we want to set up a stakeholders group, including all the NGOs and interested groups, to give us input on that. We will be sending out an invitation letter within the next few days. We hope to have our first real substantive meeting with those groups by the end of June. I am happy and available any time to meet with the standing committee.

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

I think it’s fair to reference the 107 days. It has been four months since the motion passed and nothing has been brought to committee. I think it’s very important that it does come to committee because, as the Minister said, she wanted to get input from the standing committee. I’m happy to hear that a letter has been sent, but still it sounds like the Minister is moving ahead with some of these things and no information has been shared and no input has been gathered.

So before the Minister moves forward with these committees and whatnot that she’s making reference to, will she commit to meeting with the standing committee and getting our input on that process before she actually moves forward and implements the process that she’s indicated she’s going to be implementing?

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

I’ve said that in e-mails to him at least three times, I will meet with standing committee or the Members to discuss input or to get their input and have further discussions. I have asked committee to meet at any time. So, yes, I would be happy to do that. I’ve always said that I will and I’ve e-mailed him at least three times to say that.

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

As indicated in my statement, there’s a lot of uncertainty out there. People don’t know what’s happening. So my question for the Minister is: How does the Minister intend to relieve some of this continued confusion and uncertainty that continues to exist within the public as residents wait for something to happen?

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Everybody here knows that and I have committed. I don’t know if I need to explain more of that. I want to come and meet with the Standing Committee on Social Programs. I understand that we have a very short session, so the committee’s time is always of high value. I think it’s important and we are available to meet at any time to discuss. And we are not, we haven’t moved further, I don’t want that to be out there that we are somehow moving forward because I keep getting e-mails from Members suggesting that.

I want to make it clear that myself, as the Minister, and the government heard loud and clear that there are lots of major elements of that policy change that needed to be reviewed. I wanted to make sure that we took some time to review from the last session what we heard, which is what we’ve been doing for the last seven weeks. Before we do any public

meetings I will be happy to sit down with the committee. But it is important also that we hear from NGOs and the general public. We do want to have public meetings as well. Any time next week I think we could get together and talk about it more.

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Question 339-16(3): GNWT Response To Supplementary Health Benefits Motion

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee . The honourable Member for Kam Lake , Mr. Ramsay .

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Question 340-16(3): Proposed Northern Development Agency

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have some questions for the Premier today and it gets back to my Member’s statement from earlier where I was talking about the Northern Development Agency that the federal government has proposed. I’m wondering if the Premier can give us an update on what exactly our government has done in trying to convince the federal government that the Northwest Territories is a good location for this Northern Development Agency.

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Question 340-16(3): Proposed Northern Development Agency

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The honourable Premier , Mr. Roland .

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Question 340-16(3): Proposed Northern Development Agency

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Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Premier

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the Member for raising this concern. The work we’ve done on this comes in a number of layers. First and foremost we had a pan-territorial approach from the three northern Premiers as to making the pitch to Ottawa that the Northern Development Agency needs to be established in the North.

Following that and putting that case in, I have worked directly with a number of the federal Ministers to highlight the fact that it makes sense, for a number of the reasons that the Member has raised, that we’re central amongst the territories, that our economic potential is the greatest amongst the territories, and it would make sense to base that here in the Northwest Territories. We’ve put that on the table. My understanding is that it is before the Prime Minister’s office and we are awaiting direction from there.

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Question 340-16(3): Proposed Northern Development Agency

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

I’d like to ask the Premier if the federal government has come any closer to announcing a location for the Northern Development Agency. I know it’s at the Prime Minister’s desk now, but when are we expecting a decision on where that office will be located?

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Question 340-16(3): Proposed Northern Development Agency

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Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Premier

We’re hoping to hear something soon, but I can’t comment on the Prime Minister’s office and their timing of a decision there. At one point we thought it was in a matter of weeks, so we’re waiting to see if they follow through on that. The legwork has been done. I think it’s important for us to keep in contact with the appropriate parties, different Ministers. My letter went in to Minister Strahl and I’ve also spoken with the Minister who has involvement in northern development, and that would be Ms. Aglukkaq.

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Question 340-16(3): Proposed Northern Development Agency

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

In keeping with the theme of jobs and federal jobs, I want to...We’ve talked about this before, about the fact that there are a number of jobs -- in the hundreds -- located in Gatineau and Ottawa, that belong in the three northern territories. There has been much work done in the past on identifying these jobs, finding out where they’re located, and we’ve asked the federal government in the past to relocate these positions north of 60. I’d like to ask the Premier today if his government, our government here in the Northwest Territories, will push this forward again and give it some renewed effort to try to identify those jobs and try to get those jobs north of 60 where they belong.

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Question 340-16(3): Proposed Northern Development Agency

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Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Premier

The Member is right in the sense that there’s been quite a bit of work done in the past governments and work with the federal government to identify positions that were in southern Canada, in Ottawa, that had a direct impact and relationship to the Northwest Territories and the three territories overall. We’ve done that work and it came down to identifying a number of positions that we felt could be moved north, and that initiative was pushed along.

I must say that this government hasn’t taken that information and moved it. Our focus has been the establishment of new positions and office that should be here and that is why we are putting a fair bit of focus on the Northern Development Agency. As well, we could use this avenue to further expand the discussions to look at those types of positions and having them moved north.

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Question 340-16(3): Proposed Northern Development Agency

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland . Final supplementary, Mr. Ramsay .

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Question 340-16(3): Proposed Northern Development Agency

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

I’m wondering if we can get a commitment from the Premier today to in fact inject some new life into the effort to deal with these jobs that are located in Ottawa and Gatineau and southern Canada, and working with our colleagues in Yukon and Nunavut, to make sure that we have a united front to the federal government to again ask them.

I know we’ve asked them in the past, but if they’re looking at locating a Northern Development Agency in the Northwest Territories or in one of the other two northern territories, there’s talk of Arctic sovereignty, there’s talk of renewed effort on behalf of the federal government to take an active role in northern Canada. Now is the time, I think, to inject some life into these talks and work with our colleagues to ensure that the federal government is paying attention when it comes to these jobs.

Again, I’m just looking for a bit of a commitment here or commitment from our government that we will at least start talking with Yukon and Nunavut on a united front to the federal government in terms of these jobs.

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Question 340-16(3): Proposed Northern Development Agency

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Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Premier

We have worked quite well with our northern colleagues on a number of fronts. We’ve worked together on a Northern

Strategy, trying to build a vision, trying to get the federal government to look at that vision. We, in fact, will have our next northern Premiers meeting in Iqaluit in early July. I will commit to work with them and put that on the agenda to have some further discussions and try to put some renewed energy in that area as well.

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Question 340-16(3): Proposed Northern Development Agency

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland . The honourable Member for Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Question 341-16(3): National Aboriginal Day Of Healing And Reconciliation Of Residential School Survivors

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In my Member’s statement I mentioned that May 26th was

the National Day of Healing and Reconciliation, and this government has been the only government on record to recognize May 26th as this day for the

residential school survivors. I would ask the Premier of the Northwest Territories, in terms of his leadership of this government here if any type of gesture is going to be made in this Assembly to recognize May 26th as a day that we made a formal

motion to recognize this day across the Northwest Territories for all survivors of the Northwest Territories.

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Question 341-16(3): National Aboriginal Day Of Healing And Reconciliation Of Residential School Survivors

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . The honourable Premier , Mr. Roland .

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Question 341-16(3): National Aboriginal Day Of Healing And Reconciliation Of Residential School Survivors

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Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Premier

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As the Member has pointed out, the Assembly of the Northwest Territories has in the past endorsed this, recognized that. We stand by that. Looking at the date and the time, we feel that is a commitment that still stands today. If Members would like to do something, we would be willing to sit down and have a discussion.

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Question 341-16(3): National Aboriginal Day Of Healing And Reconciliation Of Residential School Survivors

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

I’m not too sure if we’ll have enough time for how quickly we can engage the Members to see if we want to do something. I want to ask the Premier in terms of his leadership, in terms of the leader of this government here, in terms of taking a leadership role to say something on behalf of this government in terms of May 26 being the day that we recognize, in this government here, as the national reconciliation healing day for residential school survivors. Will the Premier do something?

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Question 341-16(3): National Aboriginal Day Of Healing And Reconciliation Of Residential School Survivors

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Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Premier

Mr. Speaker, I would be happy to engage Members to see where they’d like to see something done. Being that the day has passed, in the past we’ve recognized the day when we were in session. Again, the fact that previous Assemblies stood by this and, as the Member has pointed out, we’re the only Assembly who has done that, we stand by that. With the short days we do have, as the Member has highlighted, there are quite a number of messages that we have to get

out, but I’d be prepared to engage Members to see if we make any adjustments to what we’re prepared to make statements on. Thank you.

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Question 341-16(3): National Aboriginal Day Of Healing And Reconciliation Of Residential School Survivors

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Premier , if he would give that some serious consideration in engaging the Members of the House here. I understand, also, Mr. Speaker, that other days of territorial significance or national recognition of different events or activities, that this government here does make a statement here. This being one that affects all the people in the Northwest Territories, would the Premier take on the consideration if he would come forward with a statement from the Premier ’s office in terms of this specific day? Thank you.

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Question 341-16(3): National Aboriginal Day Of Healing And Reconciliation Of Residential School Survivors

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Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Premier

Mr. Speaker, if the Member had approached me sooner, we probably could have started a discussion to see if we could make some adjustments to our planning scheduled around the sitting days. As I have committed, I am prepared to sit down and engage Members to see if there’s a willingness to do that. I believe, again, the motion was an Assembly one. If we could, even myself, as a statement, or through that, we could look at doing something of that nature. Thank you.

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Question 341-16(3): National Aboriginal Day Of Healing And Reconciliation Of Residential School Survivors

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland . Final supplementary, Mr. Yakeleya .

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Question 341-16(3): National Aboriginal Day Of Healing And Reconciliation Of Residential School Survivors

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, these significant days in our people’s lives, sometimes I think it would be a wonderful consideration if the government could take it on its onus to advance these types of issues forward in terms of a motion like this in the House here. So I would appreciate if the Premier could take it on in his leadership to engage the Members to see if something can be done within this short life of this Assembly here, to recognize this important day for the survivors of the residential schools.

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Question 341-16(3): National Aboriginal Day Of Healing And Reconciliation Of Residential School Survivors

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Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Premier

As I had said earlier, yes, I am prepared to sit down with Members. If it’s a polling, one on one, to sit down and find out where we can move on this area. Thank you.

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Question 341-16(3): National Aboriginal Day Of Healing And Reconciliation Of Residential School Survivors

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland . The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Question 342-16(3): NWT Declaration

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Mr. Speaker, the Premier of the Northwest Territories represents our government in many different forums and the mandate to represent us comes from the Members of this Assembly. Recently, I know when I was gone after session, I was surprised to hear of this organization that was putting forward something called the NWT Declaration. I understand that their mandate was to craft a new vision for the Territory.

Mr. Speaker, it hasn’t been abundantly transparent or clear to me exactly what the parameters of this new organization is to craft a new vision for the Northwest Territories. I’ve heard some names of some people who are participating but I have some questions. You know, specifically, I suppose people can get together and do whatever they want, but specifically relevant to our Premier ’s involvement in an organization, I do have a few questions. I’d like to know who’s financing the organization. I’d like to know what role our Premier played in the development of the principles of the NWT Declaration. Thank you.

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Question 342-16(3): NWT Declaration

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . A couple of questions there. The honourable Premier , Mr. Roland .

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Question 342-16(3): NWT Declaration

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Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Premier

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I’ll thank the Member for raising that question because it is a good one. It is an area of discussion that’s been held a number of places across our Territory, from youth to seniors to businesses. This is not an organization. There is no company. There is no mandate established. What it was, was an invite to participate that went out to quite a number of people that were invited and those that accepted showed up. I was invited.

I originally wasn’t going to go but thought, well, if there’s a discussion about what might happen or what the possibilities are in the Territory, I thought I might as well see what’s being said and who’s attending. So I attended that event, and the discussion that occurred looked at the possibilities of a Territory in the future, in 20 years or more, of what we could be. That’s how that came forward and ideas were put back and forth as to how do we get a discussion going amongst people in the Territory.

A number of them decided to launch a Declaration for the NWT.com, and a number have decided to, as well, put ads out there in papers to get discussion going about those seven principle areas. Thank you.

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