Oral Questions — 8 March 2007 (15th Assembly, 5th Session, pp. 1335–1380)
2007-03-08, 15th Assembly 5th Session, pp. 1335–1380
Northwest Territories — Debates (Hansard)
Debates of March 8th, 2007
This is page numbers 1335 - 1380 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.
The word of the day was work .
Topics
Members Present
Item 1: Prayer
International Women's Day
Construction Of The Tulita Bypass On The Mackenzie Valley Winter Road
Lack Of Health Services In The Nunakput Communities
International Women's Day
Women In Leadership
Honouring The Contributions Of Women
Importance Of Reviewing Territorial Boards And Agencies
Honouring The Contribution Of Women
Tamerlane Ventures Negotiations With Deninu Kue First Nation
Honouring The Contributions Of Women
Opportunities For Women In The Mackenzie Gas Project
International Women's Day
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Resource Revenue Sharing Negotiations
Resource Revenue Sharing Negotiations
Review Of Territorial Boards And Agencies
Funding For Territorial Schools
Tlicho Community Services Agency Hiring Practices
Meeting With Alberta Officials To Discuss Transboundary Issues
Management Support For The Fort Resolution Band Council
Student Financial Assistance For Students With Dependents
Resource Revenue Sharing Negotiations
Public Sector Growth
Resource Revenue Sharing Negotiations
Opportunities For Women In The Mackenzie Gas Project
Pan-territorial Northern Vision
Mackenzie Gas Project Socio-economic Impacts Funding
Bill 22: Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007
Item 16: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Zero-based Review Of Public Service Positions
Implementation Of The Third-party Accountability Framework
Item 17: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 19: Orders Of The Day
Members Present
Honourable Brendan Bell , Mr. Braden , Honourable Paul Delorey , Honourable Charles Dent , Mrs. Groenewegen , Honourable Joe Handley , Mr. Hawkins , Honourable David Krutko , Mr. Lafferty , Ms. Lee , Hon. Michael McLeod , Mr. McLeod, Hon. Kevin Menicoche , Mr. Miltenberger , Mr. Pokiak , Mr. Ramsay , Honourable Floyd Roland , Mr. Villeneuve , Mr. Yakeleya
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---Prayer
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Item 1: Prayer
Item 1: Prayer
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The Speaker
Paul Delorey
Good morning, colleagues. Welcome back to the House. Orders of the day. Ministers' statements. The honourable Minister responsible for the Status of Women, Mr. Dent .
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Minister's Statement 81-15(5): International Women's Day
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
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Charles Dent
Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning. This is International Women's Day.
---Applause
International Women's Day was proclaimed by the United Nations in 1977 to celebrate progress made to advance women's equality and to reflect on the challenges ahead. This year the theme is Ending Violence Against Women: Action for Real Results. This theme is especially important to us as we know that violence against women in intimate partner relationships in the NWT is five times the national average.
Mr. Speaker, this government has taken significant steps over the last four years to reduce incidents of family violence. We responded to the Coalition Against Family Violence Action Plan with a government framework for action and have implemented almost all of the actions in that framework.
We are proud of our accomplishments to date. Examples of these accomplishments include:
• the implementation of the Protection Against Family Violence Act;
• the development of a first response protocol in Yellowknife; and
• a tool kit to help communities establish their own first response protocols.
However, Mr. Speaker, the real benefit has been the partnerships we have built along the way. Government cannot address incidents of family violence in isolation. Our community partners have the knowledge and the relationships to better analyze needs and potential solutions. Over the past three years, we have established strong working relationships with these partners through the Coalition Against Family Violence.
Since October of 2006, the Coalition Against Family Violence and the Government of the Northwest Territories have been working together to develop a phase II framework for action. Phase II will build on successes
from the first action plan and more completely address the needs of residents affected by family violence. I would like to take this opportunity to thank the Members of the Coalition Against Family Violence for their work.
As part of the annual International Women's Day celebrations, the Status of Women Council of the NWT acknowledges five women, one from each of our regions, who have been chosen by members of their community because of their contributions in advancing issues of significant importance to the North. I am pleased to have this opportunity to congratulate and recognize the recipients of this year's Annual Wise Women Awards. I would like to congratulate Rachael Mundy from the Beaufort-Delta; Bertha Deneron from the Deh Cho; Sue Heron-Herbert from North Slave; Julie Lennie from the Sahtu; and Dora E. Cardinal from the South Slave.
---Applause
Mr. Speaker, these women have worked tirelessly in their communities. It is because of the commitment of individuals like these in the NWT that we see real action and, therefore, real change.
Mr. Speaker, this year has been established the year of action to end violence against women. I encourage each Member of this House to reaffirm their commitment individually and as MLAs to work towards ending violence against women in this territory. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
---Applause
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Minister's Statement 81-15(5): International Women's Day
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
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The Speaker
Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Dent . Ministers' statements. The honourable Minister of Transportation , Mr. Menicoche .
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Minister's Statement 82-15(5): Construction Of The Tulita Bypass On The Mackenzie Valley Winter Road
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
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Kevin A. Menicoche
Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Construction of the Tulita bypass on the Mackenzie Valley winter road...
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Minister's Statement 82-15(5): Construction Of The Tulita Bypass On The Mackenzie Valley Winter Road
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
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An Hon. Member
Holy Tulita!
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Minister's Statement 82-15(5): Construction Of The Tulita Bypass On The Mackenzie Valley Winter Road
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
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Kevin A. Menicoche
Nahendeh
Mr. Speaker, I would like to report on the successful completion of a project in the Sahtu region; the construction of the Tulita bypass on the Mackenzie Valley winter road.
The winter road was originally constructed for community resupply and intercommunity travel. Quite naturally, it followed a route through town. In the early years, traffic was light and presented no serious concerns. However, as volumes increased, especially heavy truck traffic associated with the oil and gas industry, residents of Tulita expressed legitimate concerns about safety. At the same time, the motor carrier industry also began to raise issues about negotiating the narrow streets and steep riverbank.
During the spring of 2005, in response to the growing concerns, Department of Transportation officials held a series of public meetings to discuss and develop the Tulita bypass. In consultation with community leaders and residents, several routes were identified. A departure point from the winter road located approximately two kilometres east of the community was deemed the most practical. By March 2006, construction of the Tulita bypass had begun.
The construction of the Tulita bypass was enabled through the federal government's cost-shared Canada strategic infrastructure fund and the ongoing Mackenzie Valley Winter Road Grade Improvement Program. This program also funded the construction of a bypass route at Norman Wells, a similar project that was initiated as a result of safety concerns expressed by the community.
I am pleased to announce that the Tulita bypass is now open. Through-traffic moving up and down the valley is routed around the community. Only local traffic now enters Tulita.
Mr. Speaker, this project has truly been a joint effort of the community and the Department of Transportation. Community leaders and residents were consulted during all stages of the project, from the initial identification of the need to the completion of construction. Community members were involved in selecting the most suitable location for this bypass, participated in the regulatory process and assisted the department in securing the necessary permits to start this project. And finally, it was a local contractor that constructed the bypass. I would like to thank everyone from Tulita who was involved in this process.
Mr. Speaker, in closing, I would like to acknowledge the effort and support of the MLA for the Sahtu, Mr. Norman Yakeleya ...
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Minister's Statement 82-15(5): Construction Of The Tulita Bypass On The Mackenzie Valley Winter Road
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
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Some Hon. Members
Yay!
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Minister's Statement 82-15(5): Construction Of The Tulita Bypass On The Mackenzie Valley Winter Road
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
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Kevin A. Menicoche
Nahendeh
...for his hard work to make this project a reality. Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker.
---Applause
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Minister's Statement 82-15(5): Construction Of The Tulita Bypass On The Mackenzie Valley Winter Road
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
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The Speaker
Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . Ministers' statements. Members' statements. The honourable Member for Nunakput , Mr. Pokiak .
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Lack Of Health Services In The Nunakput Communities
Item 3: Members' Statements
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Calvin Pokiak
Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I understand it's International Women's Day today and I would like to congratulate the women sitting up there. Thank you.
However, Mr. Speaker, today my Member's statement is with regard to health services in my region. Mr. Speaker, the regional director and his executive staff in the Beaufort-Delta and my constituency assistant conducted a tour of Tuktoyaktuk, Sachs Harbour, Paulatuk and Ulukhaktok from February 15 to the 21, 2007. I understand the tour went very well and a number of issues were raised by my constituents to the regional director and his staff.
Mr. Speaker, I have raised this issue before in this House and once again it was raised by my constituents to the regional director and his staff regarding the lack thereof of health services provided to the Nunakput communities; in particular, Mr. Speaker, services for dental, doctor and eye clinics.
Mr. Speaker, the Department of Health and Social Services, I understand, has contracts for both the dental and eye clinics. Both of these services provided are for about a minimum of four days in each community. The amount of time these clinics spend in the communities is not long enough to see the patients that require dental, doctor and eye care. Mr. Speaker, not only does it involve a number of days in the community, but it involves long hours for the dental, doctor and eye clinic to see patients in such a short time. This is unacceptable because we should deserve the same level of service as large centres.
Mr. Speaker, on the same issue, a visit by the doctor from regional health has the same problem with the amount of time the doctor visits the communities of Nunakput. We need the Department of Health and Social Services to review and revisit the contract for the dental and eye clinic teams and the doctor to stay longer in the communities, so that all residents have a chance to get a thorough check-up of their bodies, eyes and teeth. In order for the people of Nunakput to be healthy, we need to upgrade on the level of services.
Mr. Speaker, I will have questions for the Minister of Health and Social Services at the appropriate time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
---Applause
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Lack Of Health Services In The Nunakput Communities
Item 3: Members' Statements
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The Speaker
Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Pokiak . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Range Lake , Ms. Lee .
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International Women's Day
Item 3: Members' Statements
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Sandy Lee
Range Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In recognition of International Women's Day today, I would just like to take this opportunity to recognize and celebrate the work of individuals and organizations who work on a daily basis to improve the lives of women and their families and, in turn, the entire community.
Mr. Speaker, I want to recognize and celebrate the strength and determination of the women in all walks of life, whether they be the mothers and elders who volunteer countless hours in our schools and communities, or daughters I know who look after their aging parents through various illness, or the silent and unsung heroines of working mothers who hold full-time, paying jobs outside of the house but also manage to master the impossible juggling act of taking on two more full-time jobs at home, that being of a mother and wife
and, of course, Mr. Speaker, the single-mother families, who have to soldier on and carry the burden all by herself.
I would also like to recognize the women who forge on in the men's world, so to speak, of politics, banking or in our military. Mr. Speaker, I know we have two women in this House, but I don't know if you know that three of the five banks in Yellowknife are headed by women managers and I am sure everyone knows our top military brass, our very own Mrs. Chris Whitecross was recently promoted just last week to become the youngest woman one star general in Canada.
---Applause
Mr. Speaker, I want to also recognize and celebrate the NGO organizations like the Status of Women Council of the NWT and the Native Women's Association of the NWT for the work they do in supporting women in all aspects, in combating violence, training women for better jobs, and speaking against discrimination against women and being always a strong voice in issues related to women.
Mr. Speaker, there are so many women in Yellowknife and in our communities who work to improve the lives of our women and families. I meet them and I am constantly inspired by them. Today, we will be celebrating and rewarding five wise women and I will have a chance to meet them personally and speak to them later on, but I would like to join the entire House in congratulations and acknowledging the work of Rachael Mundy, Bertha Deneron, Dora Cardinal, Julie Lennie and Sue Heron-Herbert. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
---Applause
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International Women's Day
Item 3: Members' Statements
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The Speaker
Paul Delorey
Thank you, Ms. Lee . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .
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Women In Leadership
Item 3: Members' Statements
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Jane Groenewegen
Hay River South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, on this International Women's Day, I want to talk about women in leadership. A question often asked of me as an elected woman is why aren't there more women in politics. This is an interesting question and I am not sure I know the answer to that question, but I hear people speculate about it.
One theory is that women don't support other women. I have to tell you that certainly has not been my experience. Another theory is that men don't support women. I have to say that neither has that been my experience. One other theory is that it takes a woman to champion women's issues. Mr. Speaker, I think if that were true then we would have to concede to the flipside of that, that women could not be expected to address a wide range of issues. I have personally heard many times in my 11 years in this House men stand and passionately speak to the issue of family violence, childcare, child protection and women's health issues over that period of time.
So I think we should not fall into the trap of trying to categorize men and women. I think we all have a role to play and women should be able to cover every issue that could possibly be raised in this House.
Mr. Speaker, maybe there are a lot of reasons why there aren't more women in leadership, but I don't think we can package it up categorically or absolutely and attribute it to any particular reason. I have been a Member of this House for almost 12 years and I can't think of a time when the gender factor in my relationship to issues or my constituency was an issue. Surely no one would support or not support someone solely on the basis of their gender. I prefer to think that the voters would look at the qualifications, attributes and experience of a candidate, and I would hope that they would.
There are certainly many women in our communities that have demonstrated outstanding leadership in many areas with impressive credentials to take their experience to a new level of leadership.
Rather than pondering the past fortunes of women in leadership, Mr. Speaker, I would like to say that the future does look brighter. When we look at our educational institutions in areas of medicine, science, engineering, and law, we see that the statistics in terms of the female participation in those areas of leadership is constantly growing.
So, Mr. Speaker, I, too, today would like to recognize the outstanding women of the Northwest Territories that are being honoured this year, thank them for what they do in our communities and with an upcoming federal and territorial election, I encourage people to...
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Women In Leadership
Item 3: Members' Statements
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The Speaker
Paul Delorey
Your time for Member's statements has expired.
---Laughter
---Applause
Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .
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Honouring The Contributions Of Women
Item 3: Members' Statements
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Norman Yakeleya
Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I, too, want to congratulate all the women in the Northwest Territories and around the world because today is being recognized as their day. I think for myself every day is to be recognized as women's day.
---Applause
With all the work that they do. Mr. Speaker, I thought about it this morning as I was having my cup of coffee at 6:00 in the morning. Mr. Speaker, I thought about the women in my life, the women who had pushed me forward in my leadership. Most importantly, Mr. Speaker, I thought about my grandmother when she was young. I thought about the work that she did and the sacrifices that she made for us young men in my family and the men in my community. The sacrifice she made to...She was a midwife. She brought over 250 babies into our community. She was taught by a blind lady at 14 years of age.
That's why I support the midwife program in the Northwest Territories. I thought about her wisdom and how gentle and quiet and how she ruled the house very quietly, and you respected women.
I thought about my mother recently, who told me stories of the strength of the women and the compassion they had for their people and how she brought me up, and the sacrifice she made so I could stand here and be in this House, and the joy on her face when she saw the first
time that I was elected by my own people. It was the women that are the true leaders of my people. It is the women that give life to our young boys and girls, our grandchildren.
Mr. Speaker, then I thought about my wife and the joy I had when I was in the birthing room with her and I saw my little son breathe life for the first time. He's five years old. I saw the sacrifice of this young woman, how sacred they are and how sometimes we have such a disrespect for our women here. I thought the beauty that she's given life to my child, our child. It's women like that all over in the Northwest Territories that we really have to honour.
Especially every day, we should honour. They are hard-working women and they are the ones that are truly the leaders, no matter if it's in...(inaudible)...in the regions in our communities, they are really the ones we should really be careful how we speak about them because they're our sisters, our nieces...
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Honouring The Contributions Of Women
Item 3: Members' Statements
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The Speaker
Paul Delorey
Mr. Yakeleya , your time for Members' statements has expired.
---Applause
Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Kam Lake , Mr. Ramsay .
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Importance Of Reviewing Territorial Boards And Agencies
Item 3: Members' Statements
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David Ramsay
Kam Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to, as well, recognize International Women's Day before I start.
Mr. Speaker, I want to speak today about the priorities of Members and how they don't always seem to fit into the priority list of Cabinet. Case in point is the review of the boards and agencies. Mr. Speaker, one of the top priorities of Members coming into the 15th Legislative Assembly was to do a comprehensive review of boards and agencies. Shortly after the election as a group, we supported the establishment of a Joint Special Committee on Boards and Agencies.
On May 26th, 2004, the Premier announced in this House that the committee would be overseen by the former Minister of Health and Social Services and he also committed at this time to involve Regular Members in the process as part of an overall commitment to bring Regular Members into the decision-making process.
The committee was established in order to review the mandate, organization, and governance arrangements of existing GNWT boards and agencies. It was supposed to make recommendations on what reforms are required to ensure the board or agency fulfills GNWT objectives and provides effective programs and service delivery to GNWT residents. It would also make recommendations that would provide for a consistent framework for governance, accountability and fiscal arrangements.
It started off so well, Mr. Speaker. In fact, some of the best work I've ever seen from this government came in the first phase of this review. The bizarre thing is that the review was shelved over a year ago. Obviously the government seemed to have higher priorities, like the establishment of the macroeconomic policy division in the Department of Finance, or how they could miraculously find half a million dollars to sole source a contract at Human Resources.
If the decision was a matter of resources, why were we not informed of this? This work has to get done. It's of paramount importance as we navigate our way through the implementation of self-governments and what will ultimately become a new political reality here in the Northwest Territories. Obviously, with six months left in the life of this government, this work will not get done. If resources are scarce, why can't we task the regional directors with the responsibility to get this work done? They know the regions; they know the communities better than any newly established commission would here in Yellowknife.
Mr. Speaker, I'll have questions for the Premier at the appropriate time. Mahsi.
---Applause
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Importance Of Reviewing Territorial Boards And Agencies
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The Speaker
Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . Member's statements. The honourable Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes , Mr. McLeod.
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Honouring The Contribution Of Women
Item 3: Members' Statements
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Robert C. McLeod
Inuvik Twin Lakes
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there are times when you take things for granted and on a day like today you get to thinking more and more about the contribution that women make to the lives of the people in the Northwest Territories. I'd like to stand today and honour that. There's so many times, Mr. Speaker, that I've seen women who are left to fend for themselves. I've known women that have left abusive relationships and are forced to start a life on their own with a large family. A lot of these women, Mr. Speaker, meet these challenges head on. I've known women who were widowed at a young age and again are faced with the challenges of raising a family alone.
Mr. Speaker, I've had the opportunity since I've been an MLA to speak at a few Aurora College convocations. One of the things that has always impressed me a great deal was the amount of women that were graduating while raising a family. Now, these are women in their mid-40s some of them, their late-30s. They have a family, but still they realize that to get a good life for their children, they go to school and they graduate and they go find a good job.
Mr. Speaker, there's an old saying, that behind every good man there is an even better woman.
---Applause
---Laughter
And that rings true in my case, Mr. Speaker. I'm here because of the faith that one person had in me and what I can do. So this is something that you don't really have an opportunity to think about and today is International Women's Day and we use this day to pay tribute to the contribution that women make across the Northwest Territories. But like my colleague from the Sahtu said, we must not just do it this day. I mean we must every day honour the contributions and be grateful to the contributions that women do make because years ago, Mr.
Speaker, they did all the hard work and I've known a lot of women who are out working a job, trying to raise their families, their husbands in some cases are not
helping them, so they do make a sacrifice and I think that should be honoured. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
---Applause
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Honouring The Contribution Of Women
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The Speaker
Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Member's statements. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe , Mr. Villeneuve .
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Tamerlane Ventures Negotiations With Deninu Kue First Nation
Item 3: Members' Statements
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Robert Villeneuve
Tu Nedhe
Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I'd just like to congratulate all the wise women recipients today too. Mr. Speaker, in my Member's statement yesterday I mentioned important reasons why industry has to work in unison with the First Nations on potential projects on traditional lands in order for these projects to proceed without obstruction or opposition. Today I read a story in the Hay River Hub about the negotiations between my First Nations band, the Deninu Kue First Nations, and Tamerlane Ventures hitting roadblocks on issues of great importance to the Deninu Kue First Nations, such as impact benefit agreements and socio-economic agreements, jobs, health and infrastructure.
Mr. Speaker, the Deninu Kue residents have a long history with the Pine Point mine. Many residents still have strong feelings of the neglect and the blatant disregard for the land and the people displayed by the company that operated there for the 20-plus years that they were in operation. Sadly, Mr. Speaker, the legacy of Pine Point is one of pollution, contamination and cancer, and that is not something to be proud of.
The residents are well aware that times have changed. The technology is better for the people and the environment. Cooperation and consideration are at the forefront of partnerships. Remediation is a commitment. All good things and changes that we have to work together today with. But, Mr. Speaker, the one thing that you cannot put on paper that success and approval is based upon and is paramount in order to move forward on projects such as reopening a mine with a legacy such as Pine Point, is trust. This is something that is earned, Mr. Speaker, and not bought or negotiated.
So if Tamerlane wants to further develop what was one of the largest and most profitable lead zinc mines in Canadian history, start earning the trust by negotiating in good faith and on First Nations' terms and reasonable conditions. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.
---Applause
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The Speaker
Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Villeneuve . Member's statements. The honourable Member for Thebacha , Mr. Miltenberger .
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Honouring The Contributions Of Women
Item 3: Members' Statements
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Michael Miltenberger
Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there are many, many issues that are before this House that we are taking time to debate and discuss. But today it's time to recognize the role of women in our world and in our land and in our homes. As MLA, as a son, brother, father, grandfather and husband, I would like to do that. I would like to honour and recognize the recipients of the Wise Woman Awards. I'd like to honour the women of the North in my community, in my constituency, and in my family.
Mr. Speaker, I know that women do many things that men would find very difficult, if not impossible, to do. It is something that has been said might be taken for granted, but if you ever tried as a man to do some of the things women do basically with one arm, you would know how difficult some of the things are that they do. I've had the benefit of working now in this House for 11 and a half years with the strong women that are currently here. Mrs. Groenewegen and I came through the door together in 1995 and Ms. Lee , beside me, has been here for seven years. We know how women can operate in the political arena.
They don't take a backseat to anybody. In fact, they pretty well are often in the front seat...
---Laughter
...and let us know that. Mr. Speaker, there would be no good men without women. It's a reality. I think we should recognize that, take time today to think of the ones that have loved us, and do love us, and support us, and allow us to be here, and recognize how bleak our lives would be if we didn't have the many good women. Thank you.
---Applause
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The Speaker
Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . Member's statements. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .
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Opportunities For Women In The Mackenzie Gas Project
Item 3: Members' Statements
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Robert Hawkins
Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I start my statement today, I'd like to make special mention of our women leaders and mentors in our public gallery today. I truly appreciate their work and their commitment. Like our Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes , Mr. McLeod, has said about his wife, I, too, wouldn't be here without the support of my wife, as well.
Now, Mr. Speaker, with today being International Women's Day, I think then it's now fitting and appropriate to talk about what the Mackenzie gas project socio-economic agreement is doing for women. Women make up roughly a quarter of the positions in the oil and gas industry. Many of these women are clustered in support, sales and clerical positions, as opposed to technical and managerial positions. Women account for roughly 47 percent of Canada's total labour workforce and we need to ensure that they are given full opportunity to take
part in this employment sector.
The Mackenzie gas project parties undertake in
section 2.4.9 of the SEA to support and encouragement the participation of women on an equal basis with men in all aspects of training and employment. They propose to do this through mandatory gender training, workplace policies, security measures promoting women, job market understanding, and seeking skilled female role models.
These sound like good practices on the surface but, when carefully examined, they are not very proactive and specific. Support and encourage are not especially strong words. For the most part, these measures listed address the need for the workplace to be safe for women. Which is an unfortunate necessity, but certainly not adequate to increase participation in the workforce. They do not
convey the impression that the Mackenzie gas project parties are prepared to actively get out in the communities and recruit women and train them for the jobs.
In contrast, the Snap Lake socio-economic agreement includes specific commitments by De Beers to put in place scholarships and award programs, establish a female role model to visit schools, and develop and further offer trades programs for women in communities. These are proactive steps, Mr. Speaker, and I expect that they will make a real difference in getting the interest of women in these sectors.
In closing, we often state in this Assembly that northerners must be the primary beneficiaries of development with women making 49 percent of the North...
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The Speaker
Paul Delorey
Mr. Hawkins , your time for Member's statement has expired.
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Robert Hawkins
Yellowknife Centre
That's good. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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The Speaker
Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . Member's statements. The honourable Member for Monfwi, Mr. Lafferty .
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Jackson Lafferty
North Slave
Mr. Speaker, today women play a vital role in the communities and on a day-to-day basis. They are the backbone of our nation. Mr. Speaker, they are the main reason why we exist here today in this Assembly. They have taught us the true value of life, the value of growing up, the value of literacy, the value of respect, the value of sharing, and the value of simply being there when you needed them.
Mr. Speaker, the traditional garments that we wear here in the Assembly from time to time symbolizes the hard work of our ancestors, the grandmothers, mothers. Without them, this precious work, these beautiful traditional garments wouldn't exist here today.
---Applause
Mr. Speaker, the teepee, the tent, means a safe, secure home. It represents a woman's womb. She comforts you, keeps you warm, protects you from danger outside. The lodge poles represent men. Look at how many it takes to support a woman in the right way. Those men come together at the high point and are joined to form an intricate circle, a circle that exists here today.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank my mother, grandmothers, for raising me with their language and traditional values of Tlicho to become who I am today. I especially would like to thank my wife for simply being there and supporting me. Without her I would not be complete.
Mr. Speaker, I have four women in my life at home. I am proud to say I'm proud of them and grateful for today. Mahsi.
---Applause
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The Speaker
Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Member's statements. The honourable Member for Great Slave , Mr. Braden .
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Bill Braden
Great Slave
Mr. Speaker, I, too, want to acknowledge and commemorate International Women's Day, this year the 30th anniversary of this international movement. It's with great pride and affection that I will be able to look at my wife in just a few months' time, Mr. Chairman, and celebrate our 30th wedding anniversary.
---Applause
I know I have a lot of ground to catch up on some of the Members around here...
---Laughter
...but I'm proud of every day of the relationship that I have with my wife.
Mr. Speaker, the role of government and Legislatures, of municipal councils and leaders everywhere, to step up to the plate and work with the women in our lives and in our communities is one that can never be satisfied. In this respect our territorial Legislative Assembly has a number of things to be justifiably proud of, especially in the area of social programs and justice that I think we have achieved and continue to put effort and resources into. But there are some areas, Mr. Chairman, where we still fall short.
I remember a debate in this House just a couple years ago when there was a big pot, a big pot of money, federal money, that was available for interveners to prepare their cases for their interest before the Mackenzie Valley pipeline process and how, led by the NWT Status of Women organization, they were denied sufficient funding. Our government did very little, if anything, to step up to the plate for them. We let them down. I think there are other aspects in agreements before us now that we are failing to address issues of, for instance, day care.
The ability to prepare for and manage the social and family disruption that we know will come with major developments and to really, truly, set the affirmative actions that should be in place for women in our society to advance with the rest of the interests here in the North, Mr. Speaker.
---Applause
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The Speaker
Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Braden . Members' statements. Returns to oral questions. The honourable Member responsible for the Public Utilities Board, Mr. Menicoche .
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Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
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Page 1340
Kevin A. Menicoche
Nahendeh
Mr. Speaker, I have a return to oral question asked by Mr. Villeneuve on February 16, 2007, regarding the NWT Power Corporation generate rate application.
The Public Utilities Board does not refuse to review a general rate application. The PUB reviews the general rate application, which is a multi-phased process, and
makes decisions throughout the process that guide the eventual rate determination.
Before changing its rates, the NWTPC must make an application to the Public Utilities Board seeking approval to do so and providing evidence on why the rates should be changed. This is known as a general rate application. Information on assets, operations and financial affairs is provided in order to explain change to rates.
The GRA is usually handled in two phases. The first phase, known as the "revenue requirement," examines the utility company's revenues and expenses. The purpose of phase one of a GRA is to determine the amount of revenue that the NWTPC needs to earn in a year to cover its costs in providing service to its customers and to earn a fair return on its investment.
Once a decision on the phase I revenue requirement is made, a phase II application is filed. The main purpose of a phase II filing is to determine the specific rates that each type of customer will be charged and to demonstrate that these rates will enable the utility company to collect its annual revenue requirement. Hearings are held to discuss contentious issues and obtain the views of the utility's customers.
On November 24, 2006, the Northwest Territories Power Corporation filed its phase I of the general rate application to determine the revenue requirements for the fiscal years April 1, 2006 to March 31, 2007, and April 1, 2007 to March 31, 2008.
The application requested:
approval of interim rate increases in the amounts of 3.52 cents per kilowatt hour in the thermal communities and 2.16 cents per kilowatt hour in the hydro communities pending completion of the GRA process, effective January 1, 2007.
approval of an increase in the fuel rider applicable to the diesel fuel communities of 4.02 cents per kilowatt hour effective January 1, 2007, to offset increased diesel fuel costs.
Approval of an increase in the Taltson system fuel Rider T of .21 cents per kilowatt hour to offset increased fuel costs used for back-up generation, for the communities of Fort Smith and Fort Resolution.
On January 10, 2007, the Public Utilities Board:
approved the Northwest Territories Power Corporation's fuel rider and Rider T, effective January 1, 2007;
did not approve the NWTPC interim rate application, as the proposal would not result in interim rates being as close as possible to the probable final rates at the community level.
On January 26, 2007, the Public Utilities Board approved the Northwest Territories Power Corporation's interim refundable rate rider effective February 1, 2007. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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The Speaker
Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . Returns to oral questions. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member responsible for the Status of Women, Mr. Dent .
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Charles Dent
Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We are joined in the gallery today by a number of women who are very active in the field of women's equality in the Northwest Territories. From the Status of Women's Council of the Northwest Territories: the president, Lynn Brooks; board member, Dolly Simon; and executive director, Sharon Thomas. From the NWT Native Women's Association: the executive director, Denyse Nadon-Holder and two members of the staff, Cindy Villeneuve and Faith Woodruff. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
---Applause
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The Speaker
Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Dent . Recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe , Mr. Villeneuve .
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Robert Villeneuve
Tu Nedhe
Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to recognize my sister Cindy Villeneuve, too, the finance officer for the Native Women's Association; and a constituent, Ms. Dolly Lafferty-Simon, also with the Native Women's Association.
---Applause
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The Speaker
Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Villeneuve . Recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Kam Lake , Mr. Ramsay .
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David Ramsay
Kam Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to recognize the president of the Council for the Status of Women, who happens to be a constituent of mine, Ms. Lynn Brooks, and welcome all the other women with us this afternoon. Mahsi.
---Applause
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The Speaker
Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . Recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .
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Jane Groenewegen
Hay River South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to recognize a constituent of mine, a very hard-working woman, Deb Mageean from Hay River South.
---Applause
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The Speaker
Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . Recognition of visitors in the gallery. I, as well, would like to recognize Deb Mageean in the gallery today. She's also my constituency assistant in Hay River.
---Applause
If we've missed anyone in the gallery today, welcome to the House. It's always nice to have an audience. I hope you're enjoying the proceedings. Oral questions. The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .
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Question 449-15(5): Resource Revenue Sharing Negotiations
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Jane Groenewegen
Hay River South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yesterday in the House I had questions for the Premier on resource revenue sharing and devolution and
it was replayed on CBC Radio this morning, the entire exchange. So for the record, I think if you listen to most of what I say in this House, I do support resource development, but I think it is just an outpouring of the level of frustration that we feel because we need the money in order to ensure the best health care, the best education, the best infrastructure; what we want to achieve for our constituents, a social safety net. So I guess sometimes we just get very, very frustrated.
In response to that exchange, I received a suggestion from a constituent this morning from Hay River who suggested that the Premier should draft a letter to the federal government -- because constituents want to become involved in this -- post it on his website, let residents of the Northwest Territories download it, send it to our MP and send it to the Prime Minister. Could I have the Premier 's reaction to such a suggestion? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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The Speaker
Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . The honourable Premier , Mr. Handley .
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Joe Handley
Weledeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, I would do that. In fact, it may be worthwhile to post some of the letters that I've already written to the Prime Minister and the Minister of Indian Affairs on the same topic. Thank you.
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The Speaker
Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Handley . Supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen .
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Jane Groenewegen
Hay River South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think that this suggestion speaks to, again, the level of frustration that is being felt by residents of the Northwest Territories on this subject, and sometimes it's just difficult for them to articulate that and sit down and compose a letter. If they had something that they could download, complete with the addresses to where they should mail the information, it is just another venue of getting our message to Ottawa. It was a good suggestion. When could the Premier compose such a letter so that we can begin that campaign? Thank you.
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The Speaker
Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . Mr. Handley .
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Joe Handley
Weledeh
Mr. Speaker, I will undertake to put together something like that that clearly articulates, as much as I can, the issue and the concern we have, and the ask we have. I can't give a specific time but certainly within the next week or so we should be able to have something put together. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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The Speaker
Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Handley . Final supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen .
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Jane Groenewegen
Hay River South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The next obvious question is, in association with such a campaign would the Premier undertake to invest some resources in making people aware that that is an avenue in which they can participate so that it would become known to them that they could access that? We would like it to be widely...We'd like uptake on it on a wide basis. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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The Speaker
Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . Mr. Handley .
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Joe Handley
Weledeh
Mr. Speaker, yes, we could propose some alternatives that they could use, if they want, in terms of forwarding this to their MP or to the Prime Minister or wherever they choose to put pressure. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Paul Delorey
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Norman Yakeleya
Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I, too, want to ask questions on the resource revenue sharing and devolution negotiations. I want to ask the Premier in terms of Mrs. Groenewegen 's suggestion, how do we, within the life of this government, see any light of a deal between now and the end of the life of this government? Besides shaming the government and putting pressure on the government in terms of working with our aboriginal organizations, turning up the heat, so to speak, on the issue with the federal government. This is an important enough issue that Mrs.
Groenewegen has suggested a moratorium and it has come to that place here. So how do we, in terms of the life of this government, turn the heat up in Ottawa that says come and let's negotiate a deal that's beneficial to the northern people?
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Joe Handley
Weledeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I said yesterday, it's not just me who has to be out there. We need all 19 MLAs speaking the same, getting the same message to Ottawa and to those who are going to be influential in this decision, whether it's in industry or banking or wherever it may be. We do need the money for our people here and we have a right to the money. We have a right to be able to make those decisions ourselves. Mr. Speaker, I will undertake to do such a letter, to get some wording that all of us can use and do that as quickly as we can. As we enter the last months of our government's term, I think it's important that we all be heard. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Norman Yakeleya
Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I understand what the Premier is saying and sometimes we have to take some drastic measures as some of the Members on this side talk about in terms of getting some action. I understand that the farmer has to hit the donkey
right between the eyes to get its attention, so I guess what I'm asking is how do you get the attention of Ottawa? Do we, as a government, say enough is enough in terms of the resource revenue sharing deal, because that's where we're backed into this corner in terms of what is it that we've got to do? I mean, we're playing the nice guy, so how do we get the attention of Ottawa? Do we have to hit them right between the eyes where it hurts? Thank you.
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Joe Handley
Weledeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think I'm being referred to as a farmer, but I'm not sure.
---Laughter
It is an honour.
---Laughter
Mr. Speaker, we have to do what we can to move it ahead and at the same time recognize that the Prime Minister has made commitments. He does say to me in letters and so on that he is encouraged by the progress our negotiators are making. So we don't want to change the path we're on in terms of negotiations, but we want to put more pressure on to put some real meat to this agreement, some finality to a lot of it. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Norman Yakeleya
Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. No, our leader is similar to a farmer, you know, you reap what you sow in terms of your gardening here. So, Mr. Speaker, would the Premier , in terms of the urgency and the need for this type of deal to get done with the aboriginal governments and with the people of the Northwest Territories, would he look at strong...People are asking why are you guys not a provincial government? You'd have more authority. Right now you're a territorial government under the administrative act of the federal government. You know, what type of leverage do we have?
Right now we have our land and we have the aboriginal governments onside on some of the issues. We need to move this up so, again, can the Premier give me some assurance in terms of things are getting done and that we need to reach a point where there's no turning back? Thank you.
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Joe Handley
Weledeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We will continue to do everything we can. We're going to stay the course on the negotiations. Those are going on. I think there is some progress being made, but, as I say, the federal negotiators look after the federal interests and they're tough; our people have to be equally tough. Mr. Speaker, we need to continue to have, as I said, the 19 MLAs onside, we need you talking to your constituents, we need your constituents talking to the federal government. Mr. Speaker, the window is short and as a farmer I have to make hay while the sun shines...
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Joe Handley
Weledeh
...and we must continue to move forward. Contrary to the CBC media report this morning, I'm not giving up on an agreement-in-principle by the end of March. I never did say we could get a final agreement, but I am still working toward an agreement-in-principle. The federal government say that's my timetable, not theirs, and I want to do everything I can to make sure that that's our timetable collectively, the federal government, aboriginal leaders and myself, that we want an agreement-in-principle by the end of March or as quickly as we can here. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Thank you, Mr. Handley . Oral questions. The honourable Member for Kam Lake , Mr. Ramsay .
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David Ramsay
Kam Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my questions today are for the Premier and it gets back to priorities. When the 15th Legislative Assembly was elected, one of our priorities as a group, I believe, was to get a review, a comprehensive review done of agencies and boards in the Northwest Territories. I want to ask the Premier why it is that the review of the boards and agencies was dropped by his Cabinet as a priority in favour of some other things that I've mentioned earlier? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Joe Handley
Weledeh
The work that was done by the Minister responsible at the time for it is excellent work, there's no doubt about it. I think what was done on boards and agencies was a first step, not the conclusion. It's work that is not going to be wasted; it's work that we can pick up and carry on with. Mr. Speaker, given the workload we have, there's only so much we can do. Given the budget we had, there's only so much we can do. However, Mr. Speaker, I'm also not happy that we weren't able to conclude this, but I am pleased that we were able to do some things that have carried this forward.
For example, the excellence through partnerships, the third-party accountability framework, does a lot of the work from a different perspective, but does a lot of the work in dealing with the accountability of boards and agencies, so it's not as if this was dropped and nothing was done. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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David Ramsay
Kam Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The fact of the matter is, it was an arbitrary decision made by Cabinet to drop the review of agencies and boards in the Northwest Territories for whatever priorities they chose. The work is
not going to get done during the life of the 15th Legislative Assembly and somebody has to be responsible for that work not getting done. I'd like to ask the Premier , when was Cabinet planning on renewing the effort to conclude this work? Why wasn't it in the 2007-08 mains? Thank you.
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Joe Handley
Weledeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Cabinet made the decision -- I don't think it's an arbitrary decision -- but they made the decision not to proceed with it in this budget for the 2007-08 year. This work can still be done. The work is not wasted. The work has been partly done and a big piece of it is done through the third-party accountability framework. That's already done. In fact, I would say more than half, 50 percent of what's left has already been completed through that. Mr. Speaker, we always have conflicting priorities and we hear from Members saying we don't want to build more staff into headquarters.
The proposal was to put more staff into headquarters. We can go that route and at the last few months of our government's term we can probably get people hired up by this summer and we would just begin doing that work. Mr. Speaker, it's my intention that this important task be put into the transition plan for the next government with a strong recommendation that they move it ahead at the beginning of the next government. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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David Ramsay
Kam Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The fact of the matter remains the work should have been done by the 15th Legislative Assembly; it shouldn't be included in a transition for the 16th and left to the next government to deal with. It should have been dealt with by this government. Mr. Speaker, Members have heard me stand up in the House on previous occasions questioning job growth and questioning new positions being added. Mr. Speaker, I want to ask the Premier , why can't the government task the regional directors who know communities, know the regions intimately well where some of these boards and agencies are located, and task them with getting the work done? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Weledeh
Mr. Speaker, I like those kinds of recommendations rather than the route we're on here of just building more and more people into managed boards and agencies. I like the idea of reviewing the boards and agencies we have now to determine whether or not there is overlap or duplication or where there's ways of doing things more efficiently. I like those kinds of things. That is the kind of action that I think will make for better governance in the long term than just jumping on this, adding more people, putting it in a secretariat and so on.
Mr. Speaker, when we put this forward in the transition document for the new government, I intend that we will look at options like taking some of the people we have now and seeing whether or not they can contribute or possibly handle some of these tasks themselves. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Robert Hawkins
Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Last night, I attended a community meeting held at William McDonald and it was about their funding adjustment and pressure on the YK 1 to give up a school to YCS. Mr. Speaker, if I could make a simple observation that I would describe as ECE needs a brand new philosophy that I haven't heard of lately.
I strictly say I am not suggesting in any way we should do this. But according to the philosophy they are now applying on financial dollars and how they should fund schools, is the Minister going to proceed with combining the two schools in Fort Simpson down to one because we theoretically could? Is he now going to take the three schools in Hay River and make two? This is something we need to be aware of and very concerned of. Is ECE singling out one school board, or is this a trend that we have to be very aware of? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Charles Dent
Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. At this moment, we have some pressures in Yellowknife in terms of finding space for students who will be affected by a construction project and that is what has led to us moving forward on this issue. The government has to be careful with how it spends its dollars, so as we look at how educational facilities are being used, we will continue to examine them. We always look for ways in which we can save money and schools are always encouraged to find ways to reduce their expenditures. Thank you.
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Well, I say pressures are territorial pressures. Mr. Speaker, when the Minister says careful, the Minister has singled out one school board, not territorial policy, one school board. How can he demonstrate that that is a fair process? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We don't have another community in which we have a school board that has 900 empty seats. Sorry, let me rephrase
that, 840 empty seats. Even if you look at it with an 85 percent occupancy rate, which is the rate at which ECE says that schools should not operate over, there are more than 400 empty seats in that system. We don't have another community with that many spare seats. So, Mr. Speaker, what we are talking about here is a unique situation. Thank you.
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Robert Hawkins
Yellowknife Centre
Mr. Speaker, well, this is off the ECE website which is the fact that we have some schools that run at 27 percent, we have some schools that run at 31 percent. The list goes on; we don't need to hear it today. The fact is we have schools that are running with big percentage gaps here. So the fact is he did single out one school board. I want to hear how he is doing this. He needs to go back and redo his calculations of space. Will he go back and sit down to work out a sharing arrangement as opposed to a push and shove arrangement? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It's important that we talk apples to apples. The Member says we have some schools with very small percentages. Sure, we have a school that has a 32 percent occupancy rate. That's a one-room school. So it has one classroom that is sized for 22 and it holds seven students. We can't make it any smaller than that.
In this community, we have the equivalent of almost two schools that could be freed up. So there is a big difference in that situation. Mr. Speaker we are interested in the best solution for kids. We want to put money into the classroom, into the teachers, into the programming and not into bricks and mortar. Thank you.
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The Speaker
Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Dent . Oral questions. The honourable Member for Monfwi, Mr. Lafferty .
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Question 453-15(5): Tlicho Community Services Agency Hiring Practices
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Jackson Lafferty
North Slave
Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday, I raised an important point about building a positive relationship specifically with our neighbouring government, the Tlicho Government. Mr. Speaker, the Tlicho Community Government in each community appoints representatives to sit on a regional board for this agency, the Tlicho Community Services Agency. The chairperson is jointly appointed by the Minister responsible for Aboriginal Affairs , in consultation with the Tlicho Government.
However, under 4(2) under the Tlicho Community Services Act, the legislation says that a person is not eligible for appointment to the board if their spouse or dependents work for the agency. This has been interpreted to mean that, once appointed, spouses and children of the board members cannot work for the agency, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, my question to the Minister responsible for Aboriginal Affairs is would the Minister please tell us is there a compelling reason why conflict of interest for the agency board such as the Tlicho Community Services Agency members need to be imbedded in legislation where it is difficult to change? Mahsi.
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The Speaker
Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . The honourable Minister responsible for Aboriginal Affairs , Mr. Handley .
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Joe Handley
Weledeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I don't have the document the Member is referring to and I don't recall exactly the
section it's imbedded in. Mr. Speaker, I can't think of any reason it has to be imbedded in legislation. I think there are conflict of interest guidelines, there are rules. But in answer to the question does it have to be in legislation, I don't think it does. I would want to get more information. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Handley . Supplementary, Mr. Lafferty .
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Jackson Lafferty
North Slave
Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, coming from a small community such as Wekweeti and Gameti, they are small, isolated communities and almost everyone is related; the board members, the employees, whoever it may be. I would like to ask the Minister, will the Minister commit to working with me to find a workable solution to this problem that we are faced with that will allow the families of the Tlicho Community Services Agency board members to access employment with the different departments and programs of the Tlicho Community Services Agency in their communities while ensuring that the agency is protected from decisions by board members where a conflict of interest may exist? Mahsi.
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Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Mr. Handley .
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Joe Handley
Weledeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, we are committed to working together with the MLA and with the Tlicho leadership on resolving these kinds of issues. I suspect that the wording, if it is put in legislation, was put in there jointly and it may have been an oversight on somebody's part. There may be some reason. I don't understand why it's there, but using our heads and good common sense, there should be a way of resolving this one. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Handley . Oral questions. The honourable Member for Thebacha , Mr. Miltenberger .
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Question 454-15(5): Meeting With Alberta Officials To Discuss Transboundary Issues
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Michael Miltenberger
Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a question for the Minister of ENR and it's with regard to the proposed meeting that he is going to be attending on March 20th in Alberta with some of his Alberta counterparts and I am wondering if he could indicate to this House what the intention is or the content of the meeting would be in terms of water issues. I understand
how important that is for us, but what is the message he will be bringing and the items that are going to be discussed? Thank you.
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Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . The honourable Minister of Environment and Natural Resources , Mr. McLeod.
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Michael McLeod
Deh Cho
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the intention of the meeting is, first of all, to do a meet and greet with Minister Rob Renner and also to discuss a number of issues we share in terms of water, resource development and how to build on relations that would help us work together a lot better than we have been. We also wanted to discuss some of the initiatives that they may have in terms of some of the planning that they are doing. Thank you.
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Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger .
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Michael Miltenberger
Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The meeting is a good idea. I would just like to ask the Minister, is it his intention to develop a work plan with Alberta to look at some of these very complex but critical transboundary issues being as we are a downstream jurisdiction and Alberta, as well, has their own challenges with the environment, water and development and how we can collectively look at dealing more effectively with those possibly even outside the Mackenzie River Basin Board. Thank you.
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Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . Mr. McLeod.
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Michael McLeod
Deh Cho
Mr. Speaker, yes, that's the intention. First of all, to make a connection with the Minister and start working on trying to develop a relationship where we will deal with a number of issues that face the jurisdiction of Alberta and also the NWT.
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The Speaker
Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger .
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Michael Miltenberger
Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My final supplementary is with regard to the role of the federal government which has, as we are aware, a critical role to play in the Northwest Territories. Are they going to be involved in this meeting, or would the intention be at some point shortly thereafter to make sure they are at the table as well since we can't deal with these issues in isolation? Thank you.
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Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . Mr. McLeod.
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Michael McLeod
Deh Cho
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have the federal government working with us on a number of initiatives including the transboundary agreement and other issues we brought to their attention, and we plan to have several more face-to-face meetings with some of the federal Ministers. At this meeting with the Alberta Minister of Environment , the federal government will not be involved. It will be a meeting between the Northwest Territories and Alberta and we will talk about all the issues we have in common and see how we can start working on a longer-term plan, if that's an option we can work out. Thank you.
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Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Oral questions. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe , Mr. Villeneuve .
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Question 455-15(5): Management Support For The Fort Resolution Band Council
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Robert Villeneuve
Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my questions today are for the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs , the Honourable Mike McLeod. I just want to raise the issue I have raised in the House several times on the co-management agreement that we've signed with the Deninu Community Council and Municipal and Community Affairs with respect to management of community issues. I just don't feel that the government is pulling their weight in that agreement. By that, I mean there are several issues in the community that have been dragging on for many years.
There are many projects that are going uncompleted or they are just not starting. One of the main reasons of why we got into this co-management agreement was for this government to assist them in moving along on things of this nature. Some of those things included the youth centre, Mr. Speaker, was approved over a year and a half ago now and the government hasn't really received anything on that. The playground equipment, $9,000 worth of playground equipment that has been sitting under snow for the last two and a half years, three years almost, without being put up at the school.
I think that if the community council wants to do all these things but just is not doing it, I want the government to go in there and say you guys have to get it done; if you aren't going to do it, we are going to do it. That is part of the co-management agreement. Can the Minister instruct his department to do that? Thank you.
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Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Villeneuve . The honourable Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs , Mr. McLeod.
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Michael McLeod
Deh Cho
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the situation with Fort Resolution and its co-management agreement has expired. The community is now operating on their own. They have been able to rectify a lot of the problems they were facing. They have their own SAO. Our staff continues to work with them; however, they are in a position that they operate on their own as a settlement council. Thank you.
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Robert Villeneuve
Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Is there any likelihood that we can revisit a co-management agreement or some kind of a working relationship which the government...They are providing a lot of funding for this community infrastructure and they are not seeing anything come to fruition at all. So since we don't have a co-management agreement, can the government go into the community, instruct the SAO to start moving on these things and if she needs assistance from the municipal government from the South Slave region, then they should request it. The South Slave region should be in there on a weekly or monthly basis.
Can the Minister instruct his department to make regular visits in there to report progress? Thank you.
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Michael McLeod
Deh Cho
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have not been requested by the council to come in and provide any assistance at this point. The council has been doing well. They have been developing a lot of capacity in terms of dealing with the serious issues that were challenging them. We have our staff meet with them on a regular basis. Our regional staff has always been very open to travelling to the community and has, for some time, been very regular. The Member is also free to meet with the council if he so wishes. At this point, without an invitation from the community, we are quite reluctant to come in and start imposing somebody's, from the outside, desire to build infrastructure or programs. Thank you.
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Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final supplementary, Mr. Villeneuve .
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Robert Villeneuve
Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I communicate with the council quite regularly and I raise all these issues and I am always getting the same answer, that the department is getting saying we are working on it. Really, you know, Mr. Speaker, nothing is happening. I don't mind the fact that if somebody from outside, like this government...The government has paid for this stuff, Mr. Speaker. It's coming out of their pockets. It's coming out of taxpayers' pockets to pay for equipment like this and I don't see why they wouldn't have any kind of authority or they would feel guilty if they went in there and told them we bought this $90,000 equipment, why is it sitting u