Legislative Debates — 2 December 1997 (13th Assembly, 5th Session, pp. 199–228)

1997-12-02, 13th Assembly 5th Session, pp. 199–228

Northwest Territories — Debates (Hansard)

Legislative Debates — 2 December 1997 (13th Assembly, 5th Session, pp. 199–228)

1997-12-02, 13th Assembly 5th Session, pp. 199–228

Northwest Territories — Debates (Hansard)

Debates of Dec. 2nd, 1997

This is page numbers 199 - 228 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was unity .

Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

Committee Report 1-35(5): Report Of The Special Committee On National Unity

NWT National Unity Resolution

Condolences To Finance Minister

The Report Of The Ministerial Forum On Student Financial Assistance

Cwg Meeting With Diand Minister Stewart

St. John Ambulance 25th Anniversary

Condolences To John Todd And Family

Condolences To John Todd And Family

Diamond Sorting And Valuation Facility

Local Internet Service Providers

Wha Ti Housing Shortage

Condolences To John Todd And Family

Christmas Greetings

Condolences To John Todd And Family

Christmas Greetings

Condolences To John Todd And Family

Condolences To John Todd And Family

Condolences To John Todd And Family

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Purchase Of Housing Unit In Gjoa Haven

Status Of

Article 24 Implementation

Appointment To Keewatin Health Board

Concerns With The Education Act

Fort Macpherson Teaching Requirements

Northern Diamond Sorting Facility

Central Public Government System

Housing Concerns In Wha Ti

Diamond Task Force Terms Of Reference

Nunavut Transition Costs

Return To Written Question 1-13(5): Information On Keewatin Resupply

Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

Tabled Document 9-13(5): Nunavut Arctic College Annual Report, 1996/97

Tabled Document 10-13(5): Aurora College Annual Report, 1996/97

Tabled Document 11-13(5): Report Of The Ministerial Forum On Student Financial Assistance

Tabled Document 12-13(5): Northwest Territories Law Foundation 15th Annual Report, June 30, 1997

Tabled Document 13-13(5): Northwest Territories Liquor Commission 43rd Annual Report

Tabled Document 14-13(5): NWT Legislative Assembly Pension Administration Report, Year Ended March 31, 1997

Appointment Of Chief Electoral Officer

Extended Adjournment

Item 16: Motions

Appointment Of Chief Electoral Officer

Extended Adjournment

Item 22: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Honourable Jim Antoine , Honourable Goo Arlooktoo , Mr. Barnabas , Honourable Charles Dent , Mr. Erasmus , Mr. Evaloarjuk , Honourable Sam Gargan, Mrs. Groenewegen , Mr. Henry , Honourable Stephen Kakfwi , Mr. Krutko , Mr. Miltenberger , Honourable Don Morin , Honourable Kelvin Ng , Mr. Ningark , Mr. O'Brien , Mr. Ootes , Mr. Picco , Mr. Rabesca , Mr. Roland , Mr. Steen , Honourable Manitok Thompson .

--O Canada

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Drum Prayer

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

(Translation) Before we begin, I ask Members to offer their prayers for John Todd and his family. As many of you might have heard, Mr. Todd 's son, Ian, died tragically this past weekend. I also ask Members to join me in sending best wishes to Mr. Antoine and his family. Mr. Antoine 's father is doing well after a successful operation last week. On your behalf, I thank Amber LeMouel for her beautiful singing of O Canada, also the Detah Drummers.

Welcome back Members to this special session of the Assembly. If Members will permit, I want to make a few remarks about the significance of the debate which you will be having today. Over the last 30 years, Canadians have had to deal with difficult situations where the unity of this country and its future have been threatened. These pressures go beyond what Canadians have come to expect when governments or people do not agree on a particular problem, and it takes time to work out a solution.

In the recent past, some Canadians have expressed their doubts about whether it is worthwhile to keep a united Canada, made up of all provinces and territories, including Quebec. On the other hand, on the eve of the October, 1995, Quebec sovereignty referendum, there were thousands of Canadians who took the opposite view and expressed their love for this country. Today Members will have the opportunity to debate a report and resolution on national unity.

I understand that Members have carefully considered the Calgary framework and have consulted with their constituents on how improvements could be made to reflect the interests and status of the Northwest Territories and its aboriginal peoples. I look forward to the debate on how Members believe a resolution from this Assembly should be worded and (Translation ends) what its objectives should be from a territorial and aboriginal perspective. I would also encourage Members to use this debate to state their views and the views of their constituents on what it means to be a Canadian.

This is just as important because we all need to take time now and then to reflect upon the diversity, compassion, generosity and potential of this country and how fortunate we are to be Canadians, despite our problems. Canadians across the north and, eventually in the south, will be viewing this debate which is the first on any jurisdiction in Canada. I know Members will take this large viewing audience into account when making sincere and eloquent statements about national unity and this great country of Canada.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Mr. Morin .

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Item 1: Prayer

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I seek unanimous consent to stand down orders of the day to enable the House to engage in a special debate on national unity with order being reports of standing and special committees followed by motions and further that Rule 44 be waived for the National Unity Motion. And furthermore, Mr. Speaker, upon the question being called and the vote taken on the resolution on national unity that the House then revert back to the orders of the day and proceed with routine orders. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. The Premier is seeking unanimous consent to stand down the orders of the day to enable the House to engage in a special debate on national unity, the orders being reports of standing and special committees followed by motions. And further, that Rule 44 be waived for the National Unity Motion and further, upon question being called and vote taken on the resolution on the national unity that the House then reverts back to the orders of the day and proceed with the routine orders. Do we have any nays? There are no nays. Mr. Morin , you have unanimous consent.

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Committee Report 1-35(5): Report Of The Special Committee On National Unity

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am pleased to present the Report of your Special Committee on National Unity.

Mr. Speaker, on September 14, 1997, the Premiers of all provinces and territories, except Quebec, met in Calgary to discuss measures which could be taken to promote national unity and the strength of Canadian federation. The meeting was prompted, in part, by a concern about yet another Quebec referendum on separation and the implications which secession could have for Canada.

Premiers unanimously agreed that the first and most important step was to conduct grassroots consultations with their constituents to determine their views on national unity and strengthening the federation, including the issue of Quebec's status within a united Canada.

Premiers also agreed on a seven point framework to help focus the consultations, although provinces and territories were given the opportunity of including additional topics and issues to accurately represent their constituents' interests and circumstances. Guidelines for consultation were also adopted. (Appendix 4)

Mr. Speaker, following consultations in their respective jurisdictions, Premiers agreed that they would have a debate on the results and a resolution which reflects the views of their constituents on national unity and strengthening the federation as laid out in the Calgary consultation framework with revisions to reflect special issues of interests.

In response to the commitment made on behalf of the Northwest Territories in Calgary on September 14th, the Legislative Assembly established a Special Committee on National Unity to oversee and monitor a Northwest Territories, consultation process, provide updates and analysis on the national consultation process, prepare a report on Northwest Territories' consultations and recommend a resolution for consideration by the Legislative Assembly.

The purpose of this report, Mr. Speaker, is to provide the Legislative Assembly and Northwest Territories' residents with information on how consultations were conducted in the Northwest Territories, the results of these consultations and recommendations on how the Legislative Assembly can express the position of the Northwest Territories through a National Unity Resolution.

The report also provides some background on national unity consultation initiative, including the latest account of what is taking place in other jurisdictions, how aboriginal interests are being taken into account and the role of the Northwest Territories in previous national unity and constitutional reform initiatives.

The Northwest Territories Legislative Assembly is the first in Canada to receive a report on national unity consultations and debate a National Unity Resolution.

Mr. Speaker, it is the special committee's intention to allow Members of the committee to present parts of our report. To that end I will now hand over to the Member for Hay River , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Morin . Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in addition to obtaining the reaction of Northwest Territories' residents to the seven points of the Calgary framework, the special committee confirmed three fundamental themes to serve as the basis for consultation on national unity and strengthening the federation. It should be noted that these three themes also served as the Northwest Territories' delegation's objectives when Premiers met in Calgary to develop the national unity consultation framework.

First, promoting national unity and strengthening the federation must take into account the everyday needs and a secure lifestyle for northern residents and all Canadians. A strong and united Canada is a country where its citizens have access to quality education, health care, housing and other social services. A strong and united Canada will provide productive employment for its citizens, such as support for its elders and a prosperous future for its children and youth. Mr.

Speaker, these important features of a strong and united Canada are undergoing change as governments consider social policy reform and renewal including how governments and Canadians can pay for these programs and services.

Second, national unity and strengthening the federation must take into account the historical and current realities of Canadian aboriginal nations, their status as founding peoples of this country and the special land, treaty and self-government rights that they have under our Constitution.

The special committee agrees that while the Northwest Territories can make an important contribution on these historic and current aboriginal realities, it will also be important for aboriginal peoples and their leadership from throughout the country to provide their input to the consultation process and have it reflected in resolutions from the provinces and territories. The special committee, Mr.

Speaker, is pleased that an agreement was reached in Winnipeg on November 18th between Premiers and national aboriginal leaders to have a framework document on relations between federal, provincial, territorial and aboriginal governments referred to the national unity consultation process.

Third, national unity and a strengthened federation must take into account that Canada is comprised of provinces and territories, and that the northern territories comprise a unique region of this nation. Canada is by its nature in geography a northern nation. Its northern territories, including the two new territories which will be created in 1999, need to be recognized in a National Unity Resolution and guarantees provided that territorial governments and their residents will continue to be partners in national unity processes.

To date, it appears that the federal and provincial governments support a role for northern territories through their territorial governments. The Premier and Ministers have participated in all formal national unity meetings of political leaders and GNWT officials are involved in all formal meetings with their provincial and territorial counterparts. Mr. Speaker, this is a welcome change from the past when the territories were excluded from important national unity and constitutional reform initiatives by Ottawa and the provinces.

Mr. Speaker, I would now like to ask my colleague from Natilikmiot, Mr. Ningark , to continue with our report.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . Mr. Ningark .

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John Ningark

Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Madam Groenewegen. In developing an approach to consultation on the Calgary framework with the Northwest Territories residents and the aboriginal leaders in both the east and the west, the special committee has taken into account a number of factors. For example, Northwest Territories' residents are already being consulted on a wide variety of measures relating to creation of two new territories and aboriginal issues like claims, treaty entitlement and self-government. A comprehensive national unity consultation campaign may only have served to make an already complex environment more confusing.

In addition, Mr. Speaker, the special committee has to take into account the costs associated with an elaborate campaign at a time when program and service funding is being reduced as well as the schedules and priorities of the Legislative Assembly and Members at this crucial time leading up to the creation of two new territories. With this background in mind, the special committee recommended that MLAs should take the lead role in consulting their constituents on national unity and strengthening the federation. MLAs were provided with an information kit to help in their consultations and a questionnaire was advertised in papers. MLAs were encouraged to hold public meetings to obtain input.

Mr. Speaker, in addition, the special committee made arrangements for constituents to send their comments and questionnaire replies to the Legislative Assembly's toll free phone and fax numbers. Input could also be provided through an e-mail site and through regular mail. Finally a special national unity page was established on the Legislative Assembly's web site for information on the Calgary framework and the special committee.

Mr. Speaker, Aboriginal Affairs Minister Antoine was assigned responsibility for consultation with the NWT's aboriginal leadership. In addition to correspondence with Northwest Territories' aboriginal leaders, the Minister met with the Aboriginal Summit on November 12th and by conference call on November 26th. Deputy Premier Arlooktoo assisted Minister Antoine in consulting with Nunavut Tunngavik Incorporated on November 28th.

Mr. Speaker, I would like now to ask the Member for Yellowknife North , Mr. Erasmus , to assist with presenting this report. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Ningark . Mr. Erasmus .

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Roy Erasmus

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you, Mr. Ningark . Replies to the special committee's questionnaire was one source of reaction from Northwest Territories' residents to the Calgary consultation framework. As replies continue to be sent to the special committee, the following provides a preliminary assessment of the input received to date.

In response to the question, "Overall, do you support the framework?", the majority provided qualified support as outlined below.

When asked, "What are the elements of the framework that you particularly like?", there was support for elements of points 1, 3 and 4 of the framework which make reference to equality of Canadians and equal rights; Canada's diversity, tolerance, compassion and equality of opportunity and Canada's diversity of peoples and cultures, languages and multiculturalism.

Reaction to the question, "Are there any elements in the framework that concern you?", focused on the need for stronger references to territories as a unique region of Canada and their role in the national unity process. A number of replies also expressed concern about the need for references to aboriginal peoples which reflect the historical and current realities of their status in Canada, including their rights and interests.

Other concerns expressed opposition to recognizing the unique characteristics of Quebec, the need for more emphasis on the social welfare of Canadians and that the end product of the consultation process may not produce meaningful change or progress.

Mr. Speaker, next, northern residents were asked, "Are there other elements that should be included?" The replies confirmed concerns raised about the need for more references to aboriginal peoples and the territories in a National Unity Resolution.

In response to the question, "Do you think the interests of northerners are reflected in this framework?", two-thirds of respondents said yes while a third said no. In interpreting these results it is important to note that most of the support for the Calgary framework was qualified, while most of those who opposed the framework felt that it needed some fundamental improvements.

The question, "What does it mean to you to be Canadian?", resulted in a wide range of replies from residents who both supported and rejected the Calgary framework.

In addition to the characteristics stated in points 1, 2, 3 and 4 of the framework, replies made reference to Canada as a land of opportunity where there is freedom, freedom of expression and freedom from oppression; where Canada is the best place in the world to live because it is vibrant, healthy, tolerant, compassionate and diverse in its population; where Canada is respected by the rest of the world because of its generosity, sincerity and ability to be unified in one of the largest and most diverse countries in the world and because it is a nation which respects, honours and affirms aboriginal peoples' rights and institutions.

The questionnaire, Mr. Speaker, also asked, "Does the framework reflect aboriginal views and values on national identity? If not, how should these values be reflected?" In the replies received to date, the response is split. However, it is important to note that there is a general consensus among those who both support and reject the framework that aboriginal references need to be revised to reflect the historical and current status of aboriginal peoples in Canada, including their rights and interests.

Mr. Speaker, the special committee continues to receive replies to the questionnaire and will be preparing a more detailed review for presentation during the Legislative Assembly's session early in 1998.

Community meetings hosted by MLAs were another approach to collecting reaction to the Calgary consultation framework. Meetings were held in Yellowknife, Hay River and Fort Smith. MLAs from these communities will provide more detailed accounts of their constituents' views in the debate on the special committee's report and its recommendation for a National Unity Resolution.

With respect to consultations with Northwest Territories aboriginal leaders, Minister Antoine was advised by the Aboriginal Summit that they considered the consultation and resolution process to be rushed. However, they provided some proposals for the content of a resolution. They also respected that this is a Legislative Assembly initiative and that western residents and organizations should express their views and concerns through their MLAs and the special committee. Nunavut Tunngavik Incorporated indicated their support for the resolution.

Overall, the special committee acknowledges that Northwest Territories' residents have not responded in large numbers to the national unity consultations. Nevertheless, the questionnaire replies and reaction at community meetings have provided an important contribution which has helped to confirm some of the special committee's concerns with the Calgary framework and provide direction on the approach to a Northwest Territories National Unity Resolution. The special committee will continue to monitor and assess more input which is expected in the future. Mr. Speaker, if you would permit I would hand over to the Member of Nahendeh , Mr. Antoine .

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus . Before I move on to Mr. Antoine I would like to recognize several students from Fort Providence who came here to listen to us. They have also had dinner with me and their teacher is Margaret Field. I believe they will be going back to Providence before it gets too dark. So, I just wanted to recognize them. Thanks for coming.

--Applause

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Mr. Antoine .

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the special committee has developed its recommendations in response to the following considerations:

Northwest Territories' aboriginal leaders were unified in their belief that the reference to aboriginal peoples in the Calgary framework needs to be revised. References in the Calgary framework to the status of Canada's territories and their role in the national unity process need to be strengthened, especially with the impending establishment of Nunavut. Mr. Speaker, as the Legislative Assembly will be the first in Canada to adopt a resolution, the Northwest Territories' positions will be taken into account when the provinces and territories are preparing their national unity reports and resolutions.

The Calgary framework and resolutions adopted by the province and territorial legislatures will need to accurately reflect the spirit and intent of provisions of the Canadian Constitution respecting the rights and freedoms of Canada, the rights of aboriginal nations and the status of federal, provincial and territorial governments. An early response from the Legislative Assembly will also provide a strong message of support for aboriginal participation in the national unity process and the need for National Unity Resolutions which more accurately reflect the aboriginal characteristics of Canada, including aboriginal rights and interests.

The special committee anticipates that the profile of national unity consultations will increase as the provinces and aboriginal nations finalize their positions and debate resolutions. Mr. Speaker, it is too soon to predict what will take place after the process has been completed. However, the product could become the basis for an amendment to the Canadian Constitution relating to the status of Quebec within Canada and other measures which will promote national unity and strengthening the federation.

As the debate on national unity and strengthening the federation unfolds in the coming months, it will be important for Northwest Territories' residents to know the Legislative Assembly's position.

A resolution by the Assembly will provide the Premier , Ministers and GNWT officials with the mandate they need in ongoing consultations with the federal government, provincial governments and aboriginal nations on measures required to promote national unity and strengthening the federation. For example, the Prime Minister and Premiers will be meeting on December 11th and 12th to consider reforms to Canada's social policies and programs. The special committee has identified the future of Canada's social safety net as a major factor in contributing to national unity and the strength of the federation.

Your special committee, Mr. Speaker, believes that its mandate is not concluded with the presentation of this report and consideration of a National Unity Resolution. As in previous national unity and constitutional reform rounds there will be further work required in monitoring how the national unity process unfolds in the coming months, reporting to the Assembly on developments and making recommendations on protecting and promoting the Northwest Territories' objectives. An early response by the Legislative Assembly will help guide the special committee's future work.

Based on these considerations, the special committee recommends the following:

Recommendation One

That the Legislative Assembly debate the National Unity Resolution contained in its report.

Recommendation Two

That the resolution serves as direction for the Premier , Ministers and GNWT officials in further deliberations on national unity and strengthening the federation involving the federal and provincial governments, Yukon and aboriginal nations.

Recommendation Three

That the mandate of the Special Committee on National Unity be extended for the purpose of monitoring the national unity process, keeping the Legislative Assembly informed and making recommendations on NWT participation and objectives in the process.

Mr. Speaker, that concludes the special committee's recommendations to the Assembly and I would ask that the Chairman, Mr. Morin , conclude the report. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Antoine . Mr. Morin .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The following is the text of the National Unity Resolution recommended by the special committee.

WHEREAS all Canadians and their governments have a responsibility for preserving and promoting a strong and united Canada for the benefit of all Canadians in all regions from the Atlantic to the Pacific to the Arctic;

WHEREAS the peoples, lands and institutions of Canada's Northwest Territories, including the future territory of Nunavut, comprise a dynamic and vital region of Canada;

WHEREAS efforts to promote and preserve national unity require the meaningful participation of all territorial governments in any processes directed at achieving unity;

WHEREAS the Northwest Territories' Legislative Assembly supports the negotiation and implementation of self-government for aboriginal peoples in the Northwest Territories and elsewhere in Canada, to secure their aboriginal and treaty rights and aboriginal peoples' full participation within the Canadian federation;

AND

WHEREAS the Northwest Territories has a unique character and status within the federation and expects a fair and equal opportunity to achieve the status of a full partner within the federation on equitable terms as referred to in the Quebec Resolutions of 1864 and the London Resolutions of 1866.

BE IT THEREFORE RESOLVED that the Legislative Assembly of the Northwest Territories supports all efforts to secure the commitment of the people of all provinces and territories to the unity of Canada in accordance with the principles set out below:

1. The aboriginal peoples of Canada, being the first peoples to inhabit and govern this land, have the inherent right to self-government to safeguard and develop their lands and resources, languages, cultures and traditions and to ensure the integrity of their societies.

2. Canadians are committed to a united country to ensure a society in which all Canadians and their children have access to the benefit of Canada's prosperity, including quality health care, social services, education and employment opportunities.

3. The rights of Canadians are secured equally by the rule of law and should be implemented in a just, broad and liberal manner taking into account the spirit and intent of guarantees under the Constitution.

4. All provinces are equal under the Constitution, and together with the territories, have equality of opportunity to develop their unique characteristics in partnership, while respecting each other's jurisdiction.

5. In the Canadian federal system, where respect for diversity underlies unity, the unique character of Quebec society, including its French speaking majority, its culture, its institutions and its tradition of civil law, is fundamental to the well-being of Canada. Similarly, the well-being of Quebec is ensured by the Legislature and Government of Quebec having the ability to protect and develop the unique character of Quebec society within a united Canada.

6. A strong national government for Canada, and the historic flexibility of Canadians and their governments, remain essential elements of our ability to modify, adapt and renew our institutions and arrangements for the benefit of all Canadians.

7. Each government and legislature has, in a manner appropriate to each, a responsibility to ensure that these principles and precepts remain enduring features of Canada.

Mr. Speaker, that concludes the report of the special committee, therefore, I move seconded by the honourable Member for Yellowknife North that the Report of the Special Committee on National Unity be received and adopted by the Legislative Assembly. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Morin . Your motion is in order. To the motion. Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed The motion is carried. Motions. Mr. Morin .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

WHEREAS all Canadians and their governments have a responsibility for preserving and promoting a strong and united Canada for the benefit of all Canadians in all regions from the Atlantic to the Pacific to the Arctic;

AND

WHEREAS the peoples, lands and institutions of Canada's northern territories, including the future territory of Nunavut, comprise a dynamic and vital region of Canada;

AND

WHEREAS efforts to promote and preserve national unity require the meaningful participation of all territorial governments in any processes directed at achieving unity;

AND

WHEREAS the Northwest Territories' Legislative Assembly supports the negotiation and implementation of self-government for aboriginal peoples in the territories and elsewhere in Canada, to secure their aboriginal and treaty rights and aboriginal peoples' full participation within the Canadian federation;

AND

WHEREAS the Northwest Territories has a unique character and status within the federation and expects a fair and equal opportunity to achieve the status of a full partner within the federation on equitable terms as referred to in the Quebec Resolutions of 1864 and the London Resolutions of 1866.

NOW THEREFORE, I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Nunakput that the Legislative Assembly of the Northwest Territories supports all efforts to secure the commitment of the people of all provinces and territories to the unity of Canada in accordance with the principles set out below:

1. The aboriginal peoples of Canada, being the first peoples to inhabit and govern this land, have the inherent right to self-government to safeguard and develop their lands and resources, languages, cultures and traditions and to ensure the integrity of their societies.

2. Canadians are committed to a united country to ensure a society in which all Canadians and their children have access to the benefit of Canada's prosperity, including quality health care, social services, education and employment opportunities.

3. The rights of Canadians are secured equally by the rule of law and should be implemented in a just, broad and liberal manner taking into account the spirit and intent of guarantees under the Constitution.

4. All provinces are equal under the Constitution, and together with the territories, have equality of opportunity to develop their unique characteristics in partnership, while respecting each other's jurisdiction.

5. In the Canadian federal system, where respect for diversity underlies unity, the unique character of Quebec society, including its French speaking majority, its culture, its institutions and its tradition of civil law, is fundamental to the well-being of Canada. Similarly, the well-being of Quebec is ensured by the Legislature and Government of Quebec having the ability to protect and develop the unique character of Quebec society within a united Canada.

6. A strong national government for Canada, and the historic flexibility of Canadians and their governments, remain essential elements of our ability to modify, adapt and renew our institutions and arrangements for the benefit of all Canadians.

7. Each government and legislature has, in a manner appropriate to each, a responsibility to ensure that these principles and precepts remain enduring features of Canada.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you. Just a correction here in regard to the seconder, it should be the Member for Natilikmiot . The motion is in order. To the motion. Mr. Morin .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Mr. Speaker, it is an honour and a pleasure to rise in this House today to say that I am Canadian and I am proud of it. We as Canadians sometimes think that we do not have a perfect country. We think that there is a lot of problems with the constitution as it is today; but if it is such a failure, I think we are a pretty good success as well. Anybody that has had the opportunity to travel abroad to visit other countries are awful happy to get back home to Canada. Because once your feet touch Canadian soil, there is a sigh of relief and there is then, an ability to appreciate what we do have as Canadians.

Mr. Speaker, in early September we met with other Premiers in this country to discuss Canadian unity. We felt it is time that Canadians took the time to express from their hearts what they feel about this country. Is it worth saving? Is it worth fighting for? Is it worth working for? I think so, Mr. Speaker. I think we all should put that extra effort into working to save our country.

Mr. Speaker, some think that this process is a Quebec process. It is a process for Canadians and northerners to reach out to Quebec. It is not that at all. It is a process for Canadians and northerners to reach out to Canadians and other people in this country. It is a process where we can stand as leaders of the Northwest Territories and say to other jurisdictions throughout this country why we are so proud to be Canadians and why we are so proud of the country we have and to be a part of it.

Mr. Speaker, in September in Calgary Premiers agreed to kick this process off, but it is a people process. It is driven by the people, not only of the Northwest Territories, it is driven by all grassroots people throughout this country. We have the ability today, as 24 Members in this Legislative Assembly, to send a clear message to the rest of the country. I personally, Mr. Speaker, feel that Canadian unity starts at home, a united family. That is what it starts with. If your home is united then you move on to your community.

We all know and we have all experienced what can happen at a community level if they are bickering amongst each other. They do not move ahead; they do not prosper; the communities stay stale; they do not move ahead economically and ultimately all the residents of that community do not have the same opportunities as others do that do work ahead together.

As a Northwest Territories, we know our only future, the only future that we can have is the ability of northerners to work together. If we can all set aside our differences as northerners and work together, you will see the north grow strong and free as it says in our national anthem. Recently, Mr. Speaker, I had an opportunity to speak in southern Canada just to give some people a small snapshot of the Northwest Territories. I advised those people to look north because the north is the shining light of this country. The north is the last frontier in this country. We, as northerners, are very fortunate.

You can walk or you can move around the Northwest Territories in any direction and see the beauty of our land, see the beauty of our water and see the friendliness of our people, as a Canadian, a Canadian ability that Canadian people can do. As the north, we are the last frontier in this country and we have a lot to offer southern Canada. We have a great opportunity in the Northwest Territories as being the first Legislature to pass a resolution or move forward on a resolution to set the tone.

As Members see the number one issue brought forward is on aboriginal people. The majority of Members in this Legislative Assembly, Mr. Speaker, are aboriginal. The majority of the population in the Northwest Territories is aboriginal. So to us it means very much that aboriginal people have to be at the forefront and aboriginal people have to have full participation in any issues or Canadian constitution amendment in the future. Aboriginal people and northerners working together will make the Northwest Territories a better place to live.

Some say that you should not take the time to debate or raise the issue of Canadian unity or constitution. I know that Canadians have constitution fatigue, northerners have constitution fatigue. We all know that if you do not raise that issue, if you do not have a unified country, you have nothing in the end. You do not have the jobs. You do not have the social programs. You will not have the health programs. You will not have the educational programs. A country that no longer exists will not be able to offer that.

Nobody should fool themselves, thinking that if for some unrealistic reason, Quebec decides to separate from this country, do not any Canadian fool themselves and think that it will stop there. It will not stop there, Mr. Speaker. It will continue and pretty soon you will have no Canada.

We recognize the unique characteristics of Quebec, their language, their culture. We embrace them and we want them to be part of this country. We want Quebec to be part of Canada. We will respect their culture. We will respect their language. We will respect their institutions. We will respect their government. All we ask in exchange is for them to have respect for us.

The federal government as well has a very important role to play, Mr. Speaker. The Prime Minister stood in this Legislative Assembly when we opened this building. He stood in our House, and he promised the people of the Northwest Territories that we are an important part of this country, and he promised that we would be treated equal in this country. He promised to the Northwest Territories' people that we will have the devolution of powers to give us the tools so we can contribute to the country. We still wait today for those promises to be fulfilled.

I have full faith in the Prime Minister and the federal government that they will fulfil those promises. The same as they will fulfil their promises to other Canadians. That is what makes our country great. That is what makes Canada, Canada.

We are unique in the Northwest Territories. We have a lot to offer this country. We are willing to work in partnership. We are willing to respect them and we will do it, Mr. Speaker, in a fashion that has mutual respect to us. Any future consideration, any future work on the constitution of this country, Mr. Speaker, has to have and will have full meaningful role for the Northwest Territories as well as aboriginal people.

Mr. Speaker, I can go on and on and speak about Canada because it is the greatest country in the world. We live in this country with mutual respect for other jurisdictions. I am a lucky Canadian. I had the opportunity, Mr. Speaker, to travel from one end of this country to the other. I know people living in eastern Canada. The maritime provinces are unique in their own way. So are people living in the Prairie Provinces. So are people living in British Columbia. We all know we are very unique living in the Northwest Territories. So with that, Mr.

Speaker, in closing I say we have mutual respect for each other and we work together as Canadians. We will continue to build a good country, a vibrant country, a better country for our children and grandchildren. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Morin . Mr. Ningark .

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John Ningark

Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, when the name of the seconder of the motion was called, it was Mr. Steen from Nunakput. I am sure it could have been anyone from this House and anyone would have been more than pleased to second the motion, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, one of the biggest things that we have in this country that I am proud of - I am sure everyone in the country, everyone in the Nunavut area and everyone in the western area of the northwest area of the NWT is proud of - is their freedom, a freedom to move around, a freedom to be a part of any party you want to be in a country, a freedom to follow a religion of your choice, a freedom to choose the community where you want to live without having to use the passports.

One other thing that I talked to people from my area that we are concerned about of this country is what happens if Quebec separates. Would I be able to visit my brothers, sisters and cousins from northern Quebec without the use of passports? I do not know. Mr. Speaker, when I travel to three of my communities, there are times that the young people come to me and talk to me about the country. There are times when the elders come to me and talk to me about what we saw on the television, what is going on in the other countries. Mr.

Speaker, when I talk to my grandchildren, my kids and my family, we talk about how lucky we are to live in a country such as Canada. As Mr. Premier , indicates we can move around the country freely. Freedom, there is nothing I will not compromise my freedom for anything else. I am sure that no one from this country would. Mr. Speaker, when we talk about the family, in the unity of a family, there is strength. In the unity of a family there is understanding. In a unity of a family there is a freedom to move around your community to another community to another jurisdiction. Mr.

Speaker, every year we celebrate the 1st of July. What makes me proud to be a Canadian is that during that time of celebration, the 1st of July, I will see a little one, the youngest person in a community, able to hold a Canadian flag, from that to the oldest person in the community. Does that little child understand? Perhaps not because he is too young to understand. It is the eldest in the community to understand what it means to be Canadian. Perhaps that person is a little forgetful during that time, but they are holding that flag.

In most cases in our community, we talk about the country during the 1st of July. Every person who talks about the country appreciates being a part of the country. Mr. Speaker, before this session when I travelled to Taloyoak, Gjoa Haven and I am from Pelly, I was on the radio about what was to take

part in this special session. I am sure because I spoke the languages of the three communities, I am sure people understood. There were times walking down the street that people told me they are proud to be part of this country.

Mr. Speaker, come 1999, we in Nunavut area, will have a Nunavut government. We will remain part of the country. We will be Canadian. We will be part of the country we call Canada. I am not going to make a long speech because I could go on and on, like Mr. Premier said. You know what really made me understand how I am proud to be Canadian? I had two occasions to travel abroad. One was to Rio de Janeiro in Brazil and one to Denmark in Copenhagen. There were many people travelling with us. When we produced our Canadian passports, I could see the reaction of the customs official, hey Canadian move on.

That is how appreciated people are from another country. We have provided assistance to third world countries. We have seen how the Canadian people will work together, not only to help the people in Canada but to help the people in other countries who are suffering. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you, Mr. Ningark . Mr. Dent .

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I will be speaking in favour of the resolution. Mr. Speaker, it is somewhat frustrating that national unity remains such a pressing issue to Canada and to Canadians. After all, Mr. Speaker, this country, forged by the dedication and hard work of its citizens, has each year for the last four years been ranked by the United Nations as one of the best places in the world to live. We are truly blessed with a rich environment and a diversity of cultures and heritages.

For example, residents of my constituency alone represent various parts of the North, Canada, and indeed other countries. Some were born in bush camps across the north while many grew up in our northern communities. Some have came from the outports of Newfoundland and still others come from the cities of Ontario, Quebec and British Columbia. Some have travelled to this country making a choice to leave their homes and immigrate to Canada. But, despite their varied origins, my constituents believe in this country. It provides them the independence, safety and security to live and raise their families.

(Translation) We have not become a nation without facing many challenges. Building and maintaining a country is not an easy process. Indeed, debate of important issues must continually occur if we are to identify our weaknesses and renew our nation based on our strengths.

In the Northwest Territories, we know the challenge of diversity. We can say with pride that we consider and respect cultural differences. The unique nature of this Assembly itself is a prime example of how we have adjusted our practices to reflect the cultures which make up our communities.

We need to build this country on the foundation of commitment. Commitment of personal growth to the development of our economy and our society, as well as to the goal of continuing to improve the quality of life for all of our citizens. (Translation ends)

In 1999, we will again change the face of this country. The establishment of two territories, effectively replacing the Northwest Territories, is a direct example of the continuing development and change which can occur within Canada.

(Translation) Over the past few centuries Canada has adjusted its internal borders to reflect social and political change. This has occurred in a peaceful manner and with a strong interest of citizens clearly in mind.

My vision of Canada is one in which all parts of the nation participate effectively charting the future. My vision of Canada includes Quebec. It also includes strong northern territories working towards greater self-sufficiency. It includes a recognition of First Nations and defines a government structure which is effective and representative of the people it serves. (Translation ends)

Last week, Mr. Speaker, I was pleased to participate with my fellow Yellowknife MLAs in a joint constituency meeting on unity. I heard residents say that they too believe in a united Canada. People presented extensive and considered comments which showed me that Canadian unity matters to Yellowknifers. I have also heard from some of my constituents in writing. Generally, Mr. Speaker, most believe, as do I, that the Calgary Declaration, as it has been called, provided a good starting point for discussions.

In general, people told me that they supported the intent of the Calgary framework, but some considered some of the content divisive, rather than leading to unity. There was feeling that the framework was so general that it might not trigger any change, but all agreed that we must continue the dialogue on our national constitution. While this is important for all Canadians, most felt that we must especially reach out to the people of Quebec before another referendum looms.

Mr. Speaker, the National Unity Resolution which we are considering here today incorporates elements of the Calgary Declaration while at the same time, more accurately reflects the Northwest Territories position on national unity and strengthening the federation. It will be essential that the national consensus resolution contain clear content regarding the important and unique character of Quebec within Canada. As well, Mr. Speaker, it is my view that proposals by Canada's aboriginal leaders in the national unity process must be addressed in a manner which is acceptable to them.

Mr. Speaker, we must make no mistake. Canadian unity is essential to northerners' future. The next century will bring new challenges for the whole country. We must understand what we stand for and we must have a clear purpose. We should use our diversity, our experience and our resources to build an even stronger nation for ourselves and for our children.

This is an important time in our history, Mr. Speaker. Building Canada for tomorrow must be a high priority. We are part of a great nation, one which is compassionate and caring. We must join together and face the future with pride in and commitment to our great country. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Dent . Mr. Arlooktoo .

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Goo Arlooktoo

Baffin South

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am pleased today to speak on behalf of my constituency, the residents of Baffin South in the communities of Sanikiluaq, Kimmirut and Cape Dorset are proud to be Canadians. I am proud to be a Canadian. I would like to say thank you to Members of our Special Committee on Unity. I support strongly the contributions of our Legislative Assembly in sending a message to the rest of Canada and especially Quebec that we believe in a united Canada.

Many of my constituents have told me that they are proud to be part of a country with so many different geographies and cultures, where health care is available to all Canadians, where there are social programs to protect the vulnerable and a national government that is working to meet its historical obligations to aboriginal people.

Mr. Speaker, the people in my constituency have a special relationship with the residents of Quebec. We share health services, educational facilities, transportation links through air and marine shipping. These are critical services that are necessary for my constituency and we have many years of good working relationships with the province of Quebec. There are also family, marital and personal ties between the communities I represent and the people of northern Quebec in the Nunavik region.

I was in a meeting two weeks ago in Cape Dorset where an agreement was reached to co-manage several islands in the Hudson Strait. The Islands of Nottingham, and Salisbury south of Cape Dorset are rich in polar bear, walrus and beluga and will be managed 50 percent by Nunavut residents and 50 percent by the residents of Nunavik, northern Quebec.(Translation ends)

Mr. Speaker, my closest neighbours in Baffin South are not the Keewatin or the Kitikmeot, but the people of Nunavik in northern Quebec. Nunavik covers the top third of Quebec and part of Labrador. Eight thousand fellow Inuit live in these 16 communities. As their leader, and my friend, Mr. Zebedee Nungak has said many times, the people of Nunavik want to live in a united Canada. In two consecutive referendums the Inuit of Nunavik have voted 95 percent in favour of staying in Canada.

Mr. Speaker, when the inevitable next Quebec referendum happens, I hope that resident in that province vote once and for all to stay in Canada. We do not want to see our brothers and sisters of Nunavik living in another country. In the past there have been suggestions of joining Nunavut and Nunavik to make one Territory in the event of separation. Although this idea is appealing to me, personally, it is premature to discuss at all at this point. Let us not assume that Quebecers will decide to leave Canada, rather let us put our energies into trying to convince them that this important part of Canada has a critical and welcome place in our national family.

Mr. Speaker, in closing, this Legislative Assembly is now deeply involved in division of the Northwest Territories, the creation of Nunavut, the final realization of our homemade government for the people of the eastern Arctic. This is a great example of how strong confederation can accommodate a range of historical and cultural realities. I believe we need a strong unified country to face the challenges ahead in creating a new territory and taking our place as one of the best countries in the world and with that, Mr. Speaker, I will be most pleased to vote in favour of the resolution.

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Samuel Gargan

Thank you. I do not know how long Members will be talking to the motion, but how soon do we get to the orders of the day, I do not know, I would like to recognize in the gallery, Chief Rita Cli of Liidli'Koe First Nations. Mr. Evaloarjuk .

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Mark Evaloarjuk

Amittuq

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also wish to support this resolution because I am proud to be a Canadian. I think it is the best country in the world to live in. Our children can grow up healthy and get a good education and our elders get pensions and are looked after in their old age. Whether a person is aboriginal or non-aboriginal, it does not matter because we can all be united in our pride of being a Canadian. We, in the north, know that the community is stronger than the individual, that by working together we are stronger as people. Mr.

Speaker, to the people of Quebec, stay with Canada, stay part of the Canadian community. We Inuit are going to get the government we want in Nunavut and stay in Canada. I know that Quebec can do the same. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Translation ends)

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Thank you, Mr. Evaloarjuk . To the motion. Mr. Ootes .

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Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The other day I thought, what if we held a meeting and no one came. Well last week, my fellow Yellowknife MLAs and I nearly found that out when we called a constituency meeting to discuss national unity and only seven people showed up. It was not a stunning show of interest or support for nothing less then the future of our country. Maybe Yellowknifers are constitutionally burned out. You know, God knows, we all had a chance to talk about the constitution over the past ten years or maybe the idea of one more round was more than most folks can bear.

Still, it was a disappointing turnout that showed a remarkable lack of concern for this country's future, and that is a crime because there is no doubt in my mind that Canada is the best country in the world. Personally, I find it utterly ridiculous that anyone or any group would ever want to leave this country or tear it apart. Sometimes you have to come in from the outside to realize the beauty of a situation, to appreciate what makes that situation so unique and wonderful and so it is with Canada. Like so many Canadians, I was not born here.

I was born in Holland, but 45 years ago, my family made the difficult decision to leave the war-torn and war-ravaged and move to some place new, somewhere that promised opportunity, equality and a fresh start in building a new future.

It was a gut wrenching decision to immigrate. I remember very well one particular evening as my parents, talked late into the night about a letter they had received from a friend. He had written from Canada about this magical country of great opportunity for anyone willing to work hard could make a fortune and have a wonderful life. The letter urged my parents to immigrate. The person stated he would sponsor us. My older brother and I lay in bed, perfectly still, listening to my parents as they made their decision and finalized their plans. It was a momentous decision to leave our birth place, the small town where countless generations of our family had lived.

We came, not by jet plane, as so many immigrants do today, but by immigrant ship, Uscania of the British Cunard line. Our only possessions were packing into one crate, contained a Dutch bicycle, an easy chair, a change of clothing for each of us and some bedding.

As countless thousands had before us, in immigrant waves, from Ireland, Germany and from throughout Europe; we set out by ship with our meagre possessions for our promised land. The journey took seven days, a week marked by endless sea sickness as we sailed across the north Atlantic, before docking in Halifax. From Halifax we travelled by coal-fired train with wooden benches to Montreal, on to Ottawa and then Renfrew in the Ottawa valley where my father's friend and his family met us.

We lived on their farm until my father found work and we could afford a house of our own. The good life was readily apparent. During our first trip into town, we were mesmerized by the communities affluence. As the years passed, our lifestyle improved. My father bought what was practically a brand new car, an unheard of luxury in Holland. Our ice box was replaced by a refrigerator. We acquired a washing machine, and in 1958, a television set.

While we were not rich by any means, we sure thought we were. My father used to say, "this is the greatest country in the world and someday, people from around the world will want to come here". How right he was. This is the best country in the world. Since 1992, it has been formally recognized as number one in an annual United Nation's poll of about 174 countries.

Canadians are the healthiest, best educated, most technologically advanced people on the planet. We occupy an enviable role in the world.

Today, Canada continues to draw unprecedented levels of immigrants. Who, although they came from desperate backgrounds the world over, are united in their vision of the future. They seek a safe haven where they can earn a decent living, raise a family without fear and enjoy a stable, political environment.

Canada offers them all this and more. Yes, we do have a stable political environment, despite 30 or more years of discussion about Quebec's place in the federation of provinces and territories. Where else but in Canada would two generations of people peacefully discuss their differences and keep trying to find a way of bridging their understanding?

Now with our Declaration and the Calgary declaration, we turn our attention once again to the issue of national unity. It is the latest attempt to find a way for all partners in this country to work together.

Over the past five weeks we have asked our constituency to tell us how they feel about Canada, about unity and about this declaration of national values. As I said earlier, I and my fellow Yellowknife MLAs had a special constituency meeting on this subject last week. We had a disappointing turnout, but those that did come supported the idea of the declaration but not the content. They felt the wording emphasized our differences, not our similarities. It was divisive. But everyone agreed that continuing discussions were critical to the long-term well-being of our country.

They emphasized that we must find common, non-partisan goals for all Canadians to work towards. The fact that we are discussing the subject of how to strengthen the Canadian federation is a good starting point. Some of our constituents pointed out that aboriginal people have constitutionally protected rights. Aboriginal people must therefore be a part of this redefining process.

Separation from Quebec would mean a fundamental change to Canada, they said. We would be affected economically, politically, socially. All Canadians would lose. It was their belief Quebecers would lose the most. We certainly do not want to wake up one day with three or four big chunks instead of one country. They said that this declaration states that Quebec is important to Canada, but it must also state that Canada is important to Quebec.

Our ancestors understood that Canada would embrace all peoples, regardless of background and differences. It is time for us to finally learn from their example and move forward, united into the 21st century.

I learned as a small boy, in a war ravaged country, not to take peace and security of my home for granted. While my constituents may be suffering from constitutional fatigue, I think they expect me, as their representative, to continue to participate.

By voting in favour of this resolution, I feel I will be doing my small part to make sure my Canada stays number one in the world's eyes. I urge everyone here to do the same. Thank you.

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Edward Picco

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good afternoon. Mr. Speaker, the opportunity for the people of the Northwest Territories to give our views on the Calgary Declaration and Canadian unity comes at a unique time. In less than 500 days, this territory will be divided into two. The dreams and aspirations of the people of Nunavut will at long last be fulfilled.

Within this context, the Calgary Declaration and the national unity question becomes opportunity. On April 1st, 1999, the map of Canada will be redrawn for the first time in 50 years. It will have been 50 years ago that Newfoundland and Labrador joined Canada and created a country from sea to sea to sea.

I have always been proud of my roots. My family was originally from the Island of Jersey. We are of a Norman-French background. My family has lived and continues to live in the same community, Portugal Cove, Newfoundland since the 1700's. My wife is an Inuk, from Clyde River and her ancestors have lived here for thousands of years. At our home in Iqaluit, we fly the Canadian, the Northwest Territories and the Newfoundland flags to demonstrate and celebrate our roots.

Iqaluit, my home and constituency, where my three children were born is unique. It has a large and active Francophone population. It is the largest Inuit community in Canada. The diversity of Iqaluit and our sense of community is a good model that Canadians could take a lesson from.

Mr. Speaker, the national unity question has been a political football in this country for most of the past 30 years. The election of the PQ in Quebec in 1976, the Meech Lake and Charlottetown Accords and the recent referendum in Quebec have held national attention. Many non-Quebecers asked, "What does Quebec want? When will the question of national unity be finally be put aside?" The apathy surrounding the responses to the Calgary Declaration demonstrates that the Canadian public, I feel are becoming tired of the debate.

Mr. Speaker, bread and butter issues of affordable housing, of jobs and our standard of living are first and foremost on much of the Canadian electorate and residents of the Northwest Territories' minds. That does not mean we are not concerned or interested in a national unity question. The Calgary Declaration agreed to by the nine premiers and the two territorial leaders, tries to give a framework of understanding of the question. However, the issue of the status of aboriginal peoples and their

part in the Canadian federation seems to have been overlooked. The majority of the responses from my constituency and the territories as a whole, indicate this. Even though the Northwest Territories takes on almost one-third the land mass of Canada, main line Canadian thinking tends to be east-west and not north-south. Our motion has addressed this issue.

As a Canadian, I have had the opportunity to visit many areas of our beautiful country. I have visited Quebec and enjoyed the hospitality and friendliness of Quebecers.

During the second world war at one of the notorious prison camps, refugees were forced to turn over their worldly goods, which was piled in a

section of the camp. Mr. Speaker, the refugees, the interned people, called that pile of goods Canada. The reason being, it represented the best, something to strive for and achieve. Let us as Canadians, keep our country together without favouring a region or people over one or the other. All Canadians should and do have the same rights and responsibilities. As Canadians we are unique and we do not need declarations to tell us so. Mr. Speaker, I am proud to be a Canadian and a northerner and from the feedback from my constituents from Iqaluit, they also demonstrated that fact.

The Calgary Declaration does have some shortcomings, but, hopefully, it will move the national unity debate to the next stage. Finally, as a country, we will be able to move ahead, united from sea to sea to sea. I will be supporting the motion. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Levi Barnabas

High Arctic

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will be speaking in Inuktitut. I am also proud to be a Canadian from the Northwest Territories and an aboriginal. I am representing people from two communities who are originally from northern Quebec and I believe they would be affected by the separation of Quebec. If they wanted to go and visit their relatives in northern Quebec, they would be affected, where they would have to use passports to visit them.

The people that were transferred to high Arctic...(Translation ends).

The people from northern Quebec and people from the high Arctic area have to be united in order to survive in the harsh country of ours, especially in the northern high Arctic because there are no trees and of the way they are living was different. Because they were moved into the high Arctic, Mr. Speaker, the recognition of Canada is of a vast majority in the high Arctic, a massive land included in Canada.

I am sure if there is a border for Canada or if Quebec separated, the people from my riding would live in a really hard place, socially, economically and family-wise. Mr. Speaker, in Canada we live in a very peaceful, united country. For example, when we listen to our federal government Cabinet and when they are discussing wars, we recognize all over the world, internationally, Canada is recognized as a peace-Canada. They are always awarded for providing peace in the world. If Quebec is separated, I do not think there would be a harsh, I think there would be a lot of problems in Canada, especially for my representatives.

Mr. Speaker, (Translation) I too, would like to say that I would like to see Quebec stay in Canada and work together with Quebec and work in unity. For instance, we have worked together in Canada and if Quebec separated, this unity would be destroyed. For this reason, I will support this motion and I would like to thank the special committee that worked on this national unity, who had prepared the questionnaires and work that had to be done. Thank you. (Translation ends)

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I like other Members of this House conducted a constituency meeting in my riding of Hay River to hear from my constituents on the subject of national unity. An interesting feature of this meeting was the representation at the meeting by members of our community who are classified as senior citizens. I observed this with interest, and I took it to mean that perhaps, national unity was an issue of grave concern to people who had perhaps lived through or close to any era when our country and the freedoms we enjoy were threatened from external circumstances and forces.

This year, as I attended the Remembrance Day services at the Royal Canadian Legion, for the first time I was struck by the fact that when you are a child, you hear stories of your parents' childhood and their circumstances in life and sometimes it does not sink in. This year, I realized that my mother's two brothers were not much older than my two sons are now when they headed off to Europe with the Canadian Armed Forces.

One of her brothers returned and the other was buried in a field along with scores of his comrades in France. All they got back was a letter of thanks from the Canadian government and a Union Jack tied up in a package. This arrived at their door as thanks for the sacrifice of the life of their son. I also love this country and the freedoms we enjoy and I hope we never take these for granted. To that end, I do not fully understand what drives the agenda of Quebec sovereignty.

I believe we would be remiss if we did not try better to understand what past offences perhaps that had been committed or what has caused some of the regional misunderstandings and feelings of marginalization in our country.

Another strong message which came out of my constituency meeting was the need for greater understanding of each other's issue. Not only understanding but mechanisms of communication and expression, ways of expressing appreciation and friendship. How we address these shortcomings is an area we need to challenge our citizens with, maybe even particularly our young people. Coming up with ideas as to how, we as Canadians, can create a better understanding amongst all regions of Canada.

Some at the meeting attributed Quebec's need or desire or agenda for sovereignty to the leaders of the day in that province, and as the leadership changes perhaps there will be a difference in the mood in Quebec. Having said these things, I do not want to duplicate what other Members have already addressed in their statements. I want to state that for myself. I am committed to optimism in relation to the future of our great country and its leadership.

I believe there is hope of a resolution of the outstanding issues and the promotion of meaningful and a fulfilling place for everyone within the context and the boundaries of Canada as we now know it. I am also very proud to be a Canadian and I would like to commend the Premiers for their efforts for embracing this very important subject.

Mr. Speaker, I will be supporting the resolution before us today. Thank you.

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James Rabesca

North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I, too, would like to support the National Unity Resolution. Today, Mr. Speaker, I rise to the challenge of unity for our great nation. In my constituency, we have a number of individuals who have over years fought in the two world wars and numerous other peace initiatives across the world to ensure our way of life in Canada is preserved. We, as a community, are proud of their efforts and feel this is what helps to distinguish us as Canadians from every other nation.

Locally, we do not talk about national unity every day. It is one of those issues that we take for granted. Being Canadian means freedom. It means being flexible. It means to be open for discussions. It means to compromise. We have strong values but at the same time, able to listen and learn. We are the peacekeepers of the world. This provides us with the great abilities to go where no other country can go. Because of the vast distances between our communities, both territorial and nationally, we do have problems.

We hear eastern Canada talking about their problems, Quebec talking about theirs and the west talking of theirs. This makes for a very effective country as we have today. We need to use our skills that have proven throughout the world to make peace at home. The time is right. Let us go forward in the spirit of unity to provide a united country that speaks in one voice to our nation and to the world. To ensure our children have the same freedoms and the way of life we have today. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Seamus Henry

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Members of this Assembly were asked to host meetings in their communities on the issue of national unity, following the Calgary Declaration adopted by the Premiers of Canada. Along with my fellow MLAs in Yellowknife, we hosted a well publicized meeting of constituencies to gain their views on this declaration. While we did receive valuable input and opinions from the handful of people who attended, it was a disappointing turnout. The turnout reaffirmed my opinion that national unity is not an issue of urgent relevance, at least not to the people in my constituency.

There are currently other issues facing the people of the Northwest Territories which will have a direct impact on their future.

The main ones being the division of the territories, the creation of jobs, the price of gold. These are issues that effects their lives on a daily basis. The question of national unity seems much further away, and there is a commonality among the opinions of my constituency that people are together on national unity.

Mr. Speaker, I came to this country 27 years ago. Like me, a large percentage of present day Canadians were born elsewhere. It is from that perspective I wish that all Canadians from coast to coast to coast could say plain and simple, "I love Canada".

Mr. Speaker, I do not find it acceptable that I should have conditions on that love. Love is or should be unconditional. It is not an acceptable position to love Canada if I need something in return for that love. The late John Fitzgerald Kennedy's statement, which stated, "Ask not what my country can do for me but what I can do for my country."

Mr. Speaker, we can learn from that statement. It applies equally well to Canada as John Fitzgerald Kennedy's statement applied to the United States. Mr. Speaker, Canada gives each one of its citizens a quality of life that is the envy of the rest of the world, which is why we were voted the best country in the world to live in for a number of years. All Canadians have the obligation to ensure that Canada continues as it is today, a strong, free and vibrant prosperous community. Yes, Mr. Speaker, I love Canada. Thank you.

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. (Translation) Canada is a huge country. There are ten provinces and two territories. April 1, 1999, a new territory will be created of Nunavut and we are speaking today on Canadian unity. What I would like to say is that Quebec, Quebec would like to separate. I would like to say something on that. They are speaking of a referendum so they could separate. We are trying to gather all the information about how Canadian citizens feel about Canada.

There are many lands in Canada. Canada is the envy of a lot of people. They respect Canada and Canada is a good place to raise your children. I have travelled overseas and I am anxious to return to Canada. When I return to Canada, I am overjoyed to come back. The Northwest Territories is a good place to live but there are many things that we have to work at yet. It is only by working together that we can overcome these difficulties. (Translation ends)

Canada is a very good place to live, although there are problems within our country, and I would like to believe that in Canada, we try to resolve our internal problems. That requires cooperation and coordination internally to try to resolve the existing outstanding problems we are trying to deal with. With that in mind, one of the major objectives of the NWT Resolution is to make sure that aboriginal people and their rights and interests are recognized. From the NWT's prospective, a key element of promoting national unity and preserving the federation is recognizing the aboriginal character of Canada.

This means that aboriginal people were the first to inhabit and govern this country and they have special land, treaty and self-government rights that are protected by the constitution to date.

Recognition also means that aboriginal people and their governments or organizations need to be part of any process relating to national unity and the strengthening of this federation. On November 18th, the Premier and I attended the meeting between premiers and national aboriginal leaders representing the Assembly of First Nations, the Congress of Aboriginal Peoples, the Metis National Council, the Inuit Tapirisat of Canada and the Native Women's Association of Canada. The aboriginal leaders were very forceful and effective in making a case for aboriginal involvement in the current national unity process.

As a result, Premiers agreed that a framework prepared by the aboriginal leaders to govern the relationship between the aboriginal governments and peoples in the federal, provincial and territorial governments should be referred to the national unity application processes. Agreement was also reached to hold aboriginal, federal, provincial and territorial meetings to discuss social issues relating to aboriginal peoples.

The Special Committee anticipated early in its mandate that the reference in the Calgary framework to aboriginal people as one part of Canada's gift of diversity would not be supported nationally or in the Northwest Territories. The Resolution being recommended to the Assembly gives more profile to the status of aboriginal peoples as the founding nations of this country and recognizes their right to self-government. The Resolution reflects the input we received in responses to questionnaires about the Calgary framework.

While most Northwest Territories' residents were satisfied with the way in which aboriginal issues were addressed in the Calgary framework, this support was qualified. Many people felt that an Assembly resolution needs to put more emphasis on the aboriginal characteristics of Canada and their rights and interests guaranteed in the constitution.

The Special Committee also gives special consideration to receiving reaction from the Northwest Territories aboriginal leadership. Although Aboriginal Summit leaders felt that our process is too rushed, they preferred some amendments to the National Unity Resolutions which the Special Committee has agreed to.

The leader of Nunavut Tunngavik supports the Assembly's Resolution as well as the Dene of the Deh Cho First Nation and as a Canadian, I firmly believe that the aboriginal characteristics of Canada are an essential element of the national unity package. I also believe that the Northwest Territories can play a strong role in ensuring that aboriginal characteristics of Canada are reflected in the national unity package. Finally, I agree with the Premier , that we have to move early and quickly to have maximum effect on the resolutions of other jurisdictions.

In my constituency, many residents have said that they do not want to see Quebec separate. They have also said that all people and all governments including Quebec and aboriginal nations need to work together for our future generations.

I also heard that the Calgary framework does not accurately reflect the historical and contemporary status of aboriginal people in Canada. Aboriginal people are unique in this country because they were the first to inhabit and govern what is now Canada. This is why aboriginal peoples have special rights under the Canadian constitution. Dene and Metis people have struggled a long time to get where they are today and I am pleased that the Northwest Territories Resolution recognizes the struggle and their special rights and status.

In conclusion, Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues in this House to speak about how they and their constituents feel about our great country and to unanimously support in the vote of the National Unity Resolution before the House today. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Kevin O'Brien

Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, when I think of Canada, I do not imagine a large geographic mass consisting of different regions or provinces such as Quebec. I think of Canada as people, their friendliness, their compassion, a sense of fairness and the desire to share with those who have less. Our various regions naturally have different concerns, but as Canadians we will work them out by listening and not by using force or intimidation. Canadians have always been a family.

We do not blame people for their place of birth, instead we welcome them into our extended family and as a result of that diversity a respect for others has earned us an enviable reputation around the world. Like all families, Canada has some bullies. But as a family, we must stand up and remind other Canadians that no one member has the right to more of a share then the other. We have moved on and perhaps up, since the statements, like, "let them freeze in the dark".

Canadians as a whole have never stooped to the level of wanting anyone, whether they live in Cape Breton Island or in Arviat in the Northwest Territories, to freeze or to be without. Mr. Speaker, Canada is about sharing and remaining together as one. Vive le Canada! Mahsi cho, Monsieur le President.

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Roy Erasmus

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I too, would like to speak in favour of the resolution.

Mr. Speaker, it is unfortunate that the people of the Northwest Territories do not see unity as a priority at this time. Unfortunately, a lot of people are looking at putting bread and butter on the table and at issues that are more closely dear to their hearts. However, this is not an easy issue that we have to deal with. Should this country split? There could be serious ramifications. First, of course, there would be economic ramifications which would affect us socially. There would be less money for programs, less money for the type of government that we want.

Mr. Speaker, this is a great country. Yes, things are not perfect, but I think we have it pretty good. We have constitutionally protected rights. We have freedom of speech, freedom of mobility, people can travel anywhere they want in this country without being stopped. We have protection against discrimination based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age, mental or physical disability. Our constitution also recognizes and affirms aboriginal and treaty rights. Those rights of course are not defined, but they are protected.

There is still a long way to go in this area, but I do not believe there is any other country in the world that recognizes and affirms aboriginal treaty rights in their constitution.

Yes, we do have many people who are disadvantaged, but we have the network, the social network. There is social assistance for people who need it, which supplies basic food and shelter. In the north we also provide housing, social housing and homeownership programs. Those homeownership programs go a long way further then they do in south. People are guaranteed education. We have free education up to grade 12. In fact, it is against the law not to go to school up to the age of 16. After 16, I suppose you are on your own.

In the area of post secondary education, our government provides grants, loans, forgivable loans for long-term residents and that used to be Canada Student Loans are repayable loans as well. We also have minimum wages, in fact every province in Canada has minimum wages based on their cost of living.

Mr. Speaker, Canada was voted the best country in the world to live for the past four years. This was done by the countries in the United Nations. One Francophone person I know said he has travelled out of this country and people asked him if we were crazy. We were trying to split up the best country in the world to live in. He said he did not know what to respond to people who asked him questions. He feels very strongly that this country should stay together. As I said, we still have a ways to go.

Aboriginal people in particular have a long way to go to bring their standards of living up to the rest of Canadians. Aboriginal people have the lowest education rates, highest drop-out rates, highest unemployment, highest rates of social assistance and depending on which statistics a person uses, aboriginal people live six to nine years less than non-aboriginal people. We also have high mortality rates for babies, high suicide rates. We have long outstanding land and treaty claims and we are still negotiating self-government.

Recently the Royal Commission on Aboriginal Peoples put out the report. This commission took a long time to look into these issues. They did many studies. They have made many recommendations to deal with the problems of aboriginal people that I have mentioned. They have recommended that the federal, provincial and territorial governments pour millions of dollars into education, to housing and to help with social and health problems. This is so aboriginal people can take their rightful place in society.

At a recent constituency meeting that all the Yellowknife MLAs had here at the Great Hall, there was a small turnout on the unity issue, but there was good discussion. The other Yellowknife MLAs have already touched on this meeting. I just wanted to indicate that there was general support for the intent of the Calgary Framework for keeping Quebec within this country of Canada. There was the feeling that perhaps the clauses in the framework were divisive rather then unifying; could be taken as divisive by Quebecers, but in general, people said they want Quebec to remain. I agree.

It was not the best wording in the world, and it still is not, but the intent is to show Quebec that we want them to stay in Canada. The intent is not to analyze how every word is put together and to obtain perfection.

Mr. Speaker, I have not travelled out of Canada that extensively, but this is a world of instantaneous communications and I do know world conditions. I have seen many times on television people travelling hundreds of kilometres because of drought or other natural disasters. You see people, dusty people, on foot, carrying their children, carrying their belongings. Other times, you see children starving in their mother's arms. Other times you see rampaging tribesmen wiping out whole villages because of religious tribal warfare. Other places, like China, you see tanks rolling over demonstrating university students.

South America, Indian people in the rain forests are hunted down and killed, so that people can develop their land. We hear people testifying that street children are killed at night because they are bothering the street merchants. In many places of the world, you see elected governments overthrown by the military soon after they are elected. For decades, we have seen a country where bombing their innocent countrymen has become an everyday affair.

Mr. Speaker, yes, Canada has its problems, but when we look at the situation in other countries that I have described, our problems are nothing, nothing. We basically have a good life. What we are striving for is to make that life better and I do not wish to see it get worse. Mr. Speaker, if Quebec leaves Canada, life in the Northwest Territories and Canada will get worse. There will be less money for education, health, housing and our other problems. Our people will be worse off. The Northwest Territories will be worse off and Canada will be worse off. Mr.

Speaker, I do not want Quebec to leave Canada, rather, I want Canada to remain to be the best country in the world to live in. Thank you.

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also rise to speak in support of the National Unity Resolution. I would also like to start first by commending the work of the Special Committee on National Unity. They did, I think, a fine job in a fairly short period of time on what is a very important issue.

Mr. Speaker, the resolution they have come up with is a distinct improvement on the Calgary Declaration. Calgary Declaration was a good starting point, but the message I got from the people when I had a constituency meeting on this issue is reflected in this document; that northern and aboriginal issues had to be better reflected; and the resolution had to, in fact, go from coast to coast to coast and not just east-west.

The one comment that I heard in my constituent's meeting that has stuck in my mind is that this is the latest constitutional vehicle before the Canadian people. It is the vehicle that we now have before us that we have to take down the constitutional road and see if, in fact, we can translate the fine audible sentiment I have heard around this House, about what a great country Canada is and how proud we are of the fact to be Canadian and to be northerners.

Translate that into a workable, and hopefully final constitutional arrangement. Those of us from the western territory know exactly how difficult the constitutional arrangement can be to reach. We have been plugging at it for 20 years and we still have work to do. Mr. Speaker, I fully support this motion, and I hope in fact it will be a step closer towards a resolution to this problem in this constitutional arrangement that is much needed.

I, as well, do not want to see Canada split. I have in fact, relatives in Quebec, and I would like to be able to visit them all as Canadians. Mr. Speaker, I have heard many fine words today from all points of the compass and from all perspectives, but all saying the same thing. I think we have much to gain by this process. If we do not do it right, much to lose. So, I commend this special committee and I will be giving this motion my full support. Thank you.

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Floyd Roland

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I will be supporting this unity resolution. I believe it is only a small part of what needs to be done. Mr. Speaker, in the community of Inuvik I brought the questions to the Samuel Hearne Secondary School. The group of students responded from junior high class. I see that in the committee's report, some of their concerns have been addressed because their concern was that the Northwest Territories was not in the Calgary Declaration. They wanted to see more of that and some of the aboriginal issues as well.

Mr. Speaker, this is a day that we have set aside, as Legislators, to do our part for Canada. The day itself is like many others. It is the issue that will make this day different for us. We, as representatives of the Northwest Territories, can let the rest of Canada know how we feel.

Mr. Speaker, I think that we live in the best country. I am happy that I was born in the land that is strong and free; that my children were born in this great land - for the future is full of opportunity and the freedom to speak is still a cornerstone of democracy.

Mr. Speaker, today it is we that set the direction for the future. It is our example that will lead our children into this future. You see, it is not how we legislate or govern. It is how we live our lives that will be the key to leading and building a strong country for the future.

Mr. Speaker, I believe we cannot legislate how Canadians feel about one another. I believe if we are to have a true idea of unity, it will come from within. Mr. Speaker, I say acceptance starts at home and through acceptance, we will have unity.

In closing I would like to say that I am an Inuvialuit; I am a northerner; I am a Canadian. To the rest of Canada, I say I invite you to come and learn about the north and its people. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Samuel Gargan

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Vince Steen

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I too will be speaking in favour of this motion. Mr. Speaker, people in my riding did not overwhelmingly respond to this survey as well, but I believe it is because it is a very complex issue. It is not something we can expect the average person in the street to be able to respond to in such a short time. That may have been one of the reasons. But as to whether or not the people in my riding are proud to be Canadians, Mr. Speaker, I do not think that is a question.

I believe on June 6, 1984, when the Inuvialuit land claim was signed with the federal government, the people were proud at that time to become part of the Canadian society and to be accepted as full Canadians.

The people were proud they were finished dealing with a country that was honourable enough to recognize their claims and felt obligated to fulfil those commitments, under the claims. Mr. Speaker, Inuvialuit on their part did their share as far as contributing towards Canadian unity.

I believe Inuvialuits felt at that time they were bringing a portion of Canada into Canada because they brought their lands with them, when they signed the claim. Mr. Speaker, there is a lot of public who are not aware there were some restrictions as to what could be negotiated at these claims, during the claims process. Inuvialuit and I believe other aboriginal groups had been told we could not consider separation and we could not consider to claim any lands that had proven oil and gas reserves or mineral deposits on them. Those were the restrictions put onto what they could claim, during the claim process.

I believe that was the result of the federal policy at that time. It therefore brings to mind a question to the Inuvialuit as to why the government would consider separatism with anyone else at this point in time or any time in the future? Because we were told, as Inuvialuit that we do not have that option of sovereignty, we could not be a sovereign nation within Canada. We would have to be part of Canada. We accepted those terms, Mr. Speaker.

So therefore, the question of Quebec separatism, the overall question of Canadian unity, seems to come to us as an odd statement or request that would be honoured by anyone, in particular the federal government because we were told we would be treated the same as all other groups within Canada.

We were also told the sharing of resources, in particular those resources we could not claim, would be shared by all Canadians, including Inuvialuits. We were also told that the opportunity for economic development and jobs would be given to all of us as Canadians in particular, if the development was in our area, we would be given preferential opportunities to take

part in these resource developments.

Mr. Speaker, I believe the federal government has some commitments yet to fulfil in order to meet the requirements of a claim and we feel as aboriginals we are short of. The federal government will be honourable enough to fulfil those commitments under the claim.

In particular, we would like to see the federal government assure that Inuvialuit in my riding first, if development is in that area, in particular, mining or oil and gas opportunities, would be shared with Inuvialuit. We would also like to see this followed through with this government. This territorial government would have a share of the resources, within the Northwest Territories.

We would also like to see the federal government take responsibility in assuring that other aboriginal groups have a share in the resources from their area. This would assure all Canadians that we, as Canadians, have an opportunity and a right to share in the resources that are taken from our area. This would in turn show unity because it would discourage separatism. That is what I believe, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

Thank you. To the motion. Mr. Krutko .

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to speak on the issue of national unity. This legislature is the first one in Canada to consider the national resolution. This resolution is a result of the Committee on National Unity, consultation with people across the Northwest Territories. With that, I would like to thank the committee for their efforts.

We, as Canadians, as northerners face a challenging role as we enter into a new millennium. We are here to promote national unity and on the other hand, create two new territories. Division is not an easy process or an easy answer. Division of the Northwest Territories is a milestone for the residents of the Northwest Territories and Canada. The creation of Nunavut recognizes and affirms aboriginal peoples' inherent right to govern themselves.

It is important that the aboriginal people continue to make a contribution in an active role in any constitutional process, not only in Northwest Territories, but the rest of Canada and to the national constitutional process we have undertaken. People of the Northwest Territories have already faced a number of constitutional processes on a wide variety of issues such as division of the Northwest Territories, aboriginal issues, treaty entitlement, land claims, self-government and finally the long Royal Commission process in regard to aboriginal peoples and the report that was tabled with the federal government.

For myself as an aboriginal person, I feel strongly that the whole aboriginal agenda has to be seriously looked at along with any constitutional process in Canada, especially in regard to the Royal Commission on Aboriginal Peoples Report and the recommendations that went along with that report. Canada is a land of opportunity and we enjoy the right of freedom to express it. However, Canada has not always been open in regard to when it came to aboriginal people and their freedoms. Historically the door has not always been open in regard to participation of aboriginal people in Canada.

The history of Canada is not one of democratic participation. The door has just recently been opened to aboriginal peoples' participation in the constitutional processes in Canada. It has been through our desire to continue that process and historical work that the fathers of confederation and the goals that are not to be undone but to recognize and affirm these processes.

Aboriginal people have come a long way and the division of the Northwest Territories is proof Canada now represents and honours rights of aboriginal people, the inherent right of self-government in recognition of

section 35 of the Canadian Constitution. Our future with the result, generation upon generations of Canadians making the difference by working together and not apart. We are here to rekindle a sense of national pride and commitment that all Canadians have. However, it does not end there. It is a ongoing process that strives to come together and work together for a national agenda for all Canadians, one that includes all Canadians, the aboriginal peoples and the Quebecers. I am proud to be an aboriginal person and a Canadian, with that, thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

(Translation unavailable) Mr. Speaker, to translate.

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Mr. Speaker, friends, I took the opportunity to speak my own language briefly. I know that you did not understand what I said but to recognize the greatness of our country, I believe millions of Canadians would have understood what I said. Canada gave my parents the opportunity to afford themselves a living, to raise a family. Myself as a first generation Canadian of Chinese descent, it gave me an opportunity, and again to recognize the diversity of our country to move from Vancouver, a city of approximately two million people, to Cambridge Bay, a community of approximatel

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