Debates of March 4th, 1992

This is page numbers 255 - 277 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was housing .

Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

Ministers' Statement 25-12(2): Aboriginal Affairs Meeting

Ministers' Statement 26-12(2): Nutrition Month 1992

Ministers' Statement 27-12(2): New Deputy Commissioner

"grab A Bite That's Right" Logo

Consensus Government

Denial Of Inuit Aspirations On Boundary Plebiscite

Planning Process For Department Of Education

Baffin Resident's Death Due To Aids

Workers' Compensation For Hunters And Trappers

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Development Of Highways And Transportation Links

Government Leader's Birthday

Revert To Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Question O249-12(2): Job Skills To Make Social Assistance Recipients More Self-sufficient

Question O250-12(2): Process For Setting Workers' Compensation Rates

Question O251-12(2): Government's Contingency Plan In Event Of "no" Vote On Plebiscite

Question O252-12(2): Net Savings In Restructuring Housing Corporation

Question O253-12(2): Renovations To Elders' Facility, Cape Dorset

Question O254-12(2): Status Of Management Board At Akaitcho Hall

Question O255-12(2): Status Of Funding Policies Being Developed By Maca

Question O256-12(2): Development Of Transportation Strategy

Question O257-12(2): Status Of NWT Housing Corporation

Question O258-12(2): Number Of NWT Residents With Aids Virus

Question O259-12(2): Human Rights Code Re Health Status

Question O260-12(2): Guarantees To Patients Re Medical Practitioners Reporting Communicable Diseases

Question O261-12(2): Obligation To Reveal Personal Health Status

Question O262-12(2): Mr. Patterson's Statement To Nunatsiaq News

Question O263-12(2): Non-unionized Worker On Mining Safety Committee

Question O264-12(2): Employment Officer, Fort Providence

Question O265-12(2): Practice For Closing Winter Roads

Question O266-12(2): Introduction Of Family Law Legislation

Question O267-12(2): Future Of Pond Inlet High School

Item 12: Tabling Of Documents

Notice Of Motion 6-12(2): Discussion On "sobriety Clause In Contribution Agreements" To Committee Of The Whole

Notice Of Motion For First Reading Of Bill 21: Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 1990-91

Notice Of Motion For First Reading Of Bill 20: Nursing Profession Act

First Reading Of Bill 17: Child Day-care Act

First Reading Of Bill 18: Young Offenders Act

Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Public Housing Rental Rate Structure

Housing For Seniors

General Contracts For Design, Supply And Erecting Of Houses

Hiring Locally To Construct Housing

Item 19: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Item 21: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Hon. Titus Allooloo , Mr. Antoine , Mr. Arngna'naaq , Mr. Arvaluk , Hon. Michael Ballantyne , Mr. Bernhardt , Hon. Nellie Cournoyea , Mr. Dent , Mr. Gargan , Hon. Stephen Kakfwi , Mr. Koe , Mr. Lewis , Mrs. Marie-Jewell , Ms. Mike , Hon. Don Morin , Mr. Nerysoo , Hon. Dennis Patterson , Hon. John Pollard , Mr. Pudlat , Mr. Pudluk , Mr. Todd , Hon. Tony Whitford , Mr. Zoe

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---Prayer

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

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The Speaker

Good afternoon. Orders of the day for Wednesday, March 4, 1992. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Kakfwi .

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Ministers' Statement 25-12(2): Aboriginal Affairs Meeting

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I have returned from attending a two-day meeting in Toronto of Ministers responsible for aboriginal affairs, along with leaders and representatives of aboriginal organizations.

The meeting was a good opportunity to build relationships between governments and aboriginal leaders, aboriginal organizations, and to discuss issues of long-standing concern. Those issues included self-government and improved delivery of services to or by aboriginal people.

All provinces, except Quebec, were represented at the meeting. Representatives from the Assembly of First Nations, the Inuit Tapirisat of Canada, the Metis National Council and the Native Council of Canada also attended. The federal Minister was invited, but he declined at the last minute.

Mr. Speaker, presentations and discussions at the conference focused on a number of items. For instance: the need for the federal government to meet its constitutional, treaty and legislative responsibilities in negotiations and financial arrangements with aboriginal people; responsibilities for off-reserve aboriginal people; and ways to deal with potential conflict of laws in respect to federal, provincial and aboriginal governments.

We also focused on a couple of other items: the need for the federal government to carry out its jurisdictional authority for Indian, Inuit and Metis peoples and lands reserved for them; and the powers required for aboriginal self-government.

Mr. Speaker, on the matter of self-government it was interesting to note that in their opening remarks seven of the nine provinces and both territories stated their support for the entrenchment of an inherent right to self-government in the Canadian Constitution.

As a matter of fact, delegates later supported the need for a seminar that would investigate various self-government arrangements. It was agreed that a meeting would take place in Whitehorse this summer. The seminar would be followed by a second Ministers' conference this fall in Alberta. Thank you.

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Ministers' Statement 25-12(2): Aboriginal Affairs Meeting

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. Kakfwi . Ministers' statements. Ministers' statements. Mr. Whitford .

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Ministers' Statement 26-12(2): Nutrition Month 1992

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this year marks the 10th anniversary of Nutrition Month. The campaign is intended to promote the importance of good eating habits. Evaluation results indicate that the campaign is effective in increasing nutrition awareness.

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Ministers' Statement 26-12(2): Nutrition Month 1992

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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An Hon. Member

Hear, hear!

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Ministers' Statement 26-12(2): Nutrition Month 1992

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Even though March is traditionally recognized as Nutrition Month, the department feels that good nutrition needs to be promoted throughout the year. We have, therefore, produced a special 10th anniversary nutrition calendar. This is displayed in the foyer of the Legislative Assembly all of this week.

Mr. Speaker and honourable Members, the resource kits on display have been provided to schools, health centres and other organizations charged with the responsibility to encourage and influence positive eating habits in children.

The kits include a colourful nutrition calendar, nutrition tips and facts, a resource booklet, and the "Grab a bite that's right!" fridge magnets. The magnets I am circulating to the honourable Members -- I think you should all have them by now -- represent the four food groups from the Northwest Territories food guide. Stickers in most of the northern languages were included in the kits, and those can be added to the calendar for the title, days of the week and months of the year, as needed.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to invite all Members of the Assembly, as well as visitors, to view the display out here in our lobby. Thank you.

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Ministers' Statement 26-12(2): Nutrition Month 1992

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Ministers' statements. Ms. Cournoyea .

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Ministers' Statement 27-12(2): New Deputy Commissioner

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I would like to take the opportunity to congratulate Helen Maksagak of Cambridge Bay on her appointment as Deputy Commissioner of the Northwest Territories. Ms. Maksagak was sworn into office last night during a special ceremony in her home community. Over 200 attended the community-organized event.

Our new Deputy Commissioner is highly respected for her active participation on several boards and her service to the public. She has been a member of the social assistance appeals committee, the housing association, and the drug and alcohol board of directors, and numerous community support groups. Ms. Maksagak will be visiting Yellowknife within the next few days to familiarize herself with her duties, and we will get a chance to meet her then.

Mr. Speaker, I would also like to take the opportunity to express the appreciation of cabinet and the Legislative Assembly for the services provided by the former Deputy Commissioner, Ann Hanson of Iqaluit. Thank you.

---Applause

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Ministers' Statement 27-12(2): New Deputy Commissioner

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Ministers' statements. Ministers' statements.

Members will join me in welcoming to the Assembly today nine young men and women participating in the 1991 Ontario Legislature internship program. The interns are visiting our Legislature to broaden their understanding of parliamentary institutions. Accompanying the interns is Professor Graham White of the University of Toronto.

Sitting in the Speaker's gallery visiting us today are 15 first-year Canadian foreign service officers who work in the Department of External Affairs and International Trade and are visiting Yellowknife as part of a tour to familiarize themselves with the various regions of Canada.

And we also have today, in the gallery, a group from the management studies course from Arctic College in Iqaluit, with their course instructor, John Matthews.

Members will find interesting that a study of the Northwest Territories Legislature is included in the course curriculum, and this is the fourth successive year that we have welcomed representatives from this group to our House. We are exceedingly popular today.

--- Applause

Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Lewis .

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"grab A Bite That's Right" Logo

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Speaker, we are very often given things to put on the fridge, and I have in front of me, like all other Members, a small decal of a green and white fish with a blue parka, a carrot in a green parka, and a bannock with a blue parka, and what looks like a garbage can with a toque on it. What I find oppressive, Mr. Speaker, is the phrase "Grab a bite that's right," because I have brought up four kids, I and my wife, over the last 30, years and if there is one thing we are fed up listening to, it is the phrase "Grab a bite."

I believe one of the greatest inventions we have is a table and a chair where you can sit down and have a good meal. I would like to tell Members of this government that they come up with all kinds of cute ideas in order to convince us that we should eat right, but the worst thing you can put on a fridge is the phrase "Grab a bite." I was sick for four months, Mr.

Speaker, as the result of a long campaign where I never sat down to have a proper meal, where I was always grabbing a bite on the run, and I feel very strongly that if you want to keep your family together you do not let them sit in front of the TV with a bite. You do not give them a sandwich to eat in the car on the way to work. You tell them, "Sit down; eat your food, and let's do it as a family." And if you feel like it, even say a prayer before you eat it. But "Grab a bite that's right" is terrible. Do not grab a bite, sit down and have a proper meal. Thank you.

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

You would find fault with the Lord's Prayer.

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Members' statements. Mr. Todd .

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Consensus Government

Item 3: Members' Statements

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have a short statement to make on consensus government, and the events that transpired in the House yesterday. As all Members are aware, there were a number of controversial votes yesterday that saw the defeat of a government bill and the deletion of a portion of the Department of Education's capital budget. Mr. Speaker, I can tell you that I was surprised at the reaction of the honourable Members on the other side of the House. I was left with the impression that Members should not oppose the initiatives of government and that there was no room for disagreement once a matter reaches the floor of the House.

Mr. Speaker, I do not know what the practice was in previous Legislatures, but I feel confident that this will not be the practice in this Legislature.

---Applause

Times have changed. I sincerely believe that all Members of this House can work together...

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Consensus Government

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

It works both ways.

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Consensus Government

Item 3: Members' Statements

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

...to ensure this government meets the needs of all our citizens. But to make this happen, adequate consultation must take place between cabinet and ordinary Members. To me, the essence of consensus government is adequate consultation. I think the message is clear that Members on this side of the House will not rubber-stamp government initiatives.

---Applause

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Consensus Government

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Members' statements. Ms. Mike .

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Denial Of Inuit Aspirations On Boundary Plebiscite

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Mr. Speaker, I rise today to respond to public comments about the boundary plebiscite that have been attributed in the eastern media to the honourable Member for Iqaluit . The honourable Member has reportedly stated publicly that if the Dene want to deny Inuit aspirations, if the western business community wants to be seen as killing the Inuit land claims, they better be prepared for the consequences.

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Denial Of Inuit Aspirations On Boundary Plebiscite

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An Hon. Member

Shame, shame!

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Denial Of Inuit Aspirations On Boundary Plebiscite

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

I want to be on record, Mr. Speaker, that I do not support this sort of heavy-handed message which appears to underline this statement. I believe this is the same antagonistic tone we heard in this House during the honourable Member's reply to the Opening Address on December 18, 1991, when he stated, "Perhaps we will never be able to satisfy Mr. Erasmus unless Baffin Island became part of the Dene land claim..." Last week, he was also reported to have stated that if the West votes "No" on the boundary, the Inuit land claim is gone.

Mr. Speaker, these comments reflect on us, them and their mentality and accomplish nothing. Throughout history, aboriginal people of the North -- Inuit and Dene -- have proven time and again that problems can only be resolved when we take the time to communicate. We have made decisions by listening to views which may be different from our own, expressing our thoughts respectfully. Eventually, we come to agreement.

We Inuit have not believed in bullying others with suggestions that they better be prepared for the consequences, or personal comments about their leaders, or statements that all will be lost unless we get our own way.

I do not believe that remarks attributed to Mr. Patterson , nor the tone of his reply to the Opening Address last session, reflects the way the Inuit of the Eastern Arctic are viewing the boundary plebiscite and the creation of Nunavut. We do not want Nunavut to arise from the ashes of a bitter struggle with our Dene neighbours and the non-native people of the Western Arctic. We want this matter resolved in the spirit of mutual respect. I believe that poor tactics will discredit the evolution of Nunavut and that they are unbecoming of a Minister of this government. He does not speak for me.

I hope the Government Leader will take steps to ensure that we will not see this trend continue. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Denial Of Inuit Aspirations On Boundary Plebiscite

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Members' statements. Mr. Pudlat .

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Planning Process For Department Of Education

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Kenoayoak Pudlat

Baffin South

(Translation) Mr. Speaker, we vote on issues that are on the floor. We knew that some motions were passed and some were defeated. I have just learned that some motions can be defeated and that the Department of Education budget is very large. I understand that the capital budget for the Department of Education was not planned properly, and maybe this is the reason why the motion was passed to cut some of the Department of Education's budget. Maybe we should work toward more monthly statements that have been requested by the educational boards; then maybe the $5000 would not have been deleted from the budget.

I have just realized how a planning process should be set up. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Planning Process For Department Of Education

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Members' statements. Mr. Patterson .

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Baffin Resident's Death Due To Aids

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, today I would like to pay special tribute to a constituent who showed extreme courage and dedication toward others in the last year of her life. Last Friday, Ms. Leetia Geetah passed away in Iqaluit, even though she was only 31 years old. Her death was caused as a result of her having become infected with the AIDS virus.

Her parents, Charlie and Inuapik Sagiaktuk, and her two children, Oolooleaktuk and Audla, were very proud of her because during the last year of her life she dedicated herself to doing all she could to see that others did not become infected with this deadly killer.

Mr. Speaker, this message was not being delivered by a health professional or by someone who had read enough books to be called an expert. This was from a woman whose own life was becoming shorter with every day that passed. It must have taken every ounce of courage for her to stand up in front of others and tell her story.

Mr. Speaker, Leetia Geetah will not be remembered for her special works of art of her great political actions. However, she should, and will, be remembered as a brave and unselfish individual who tried to help her people with every ounce of strength left in her. I hope that her messages about this terrible disease will be remembered by everyone that her life has touched.

By this statement, Mr. Speaker, I am hoping that we in this Assembly will also do our part to help spread her messages as one way of saying "thank you" to this very special citizen. Qujannamiik.

---Applause

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Baffin Resident's Death Due To Aids

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Members' statements. Mr. Gargan .

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Workers' Compensation For Hunters And Trappers

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to say something in regard to the Workers' Compensation Board. Up to recently, anybody that is hunting and fishing, if they do not make more than $10,000, and if they are hurt on the job, they will not be given compensation. In 1979, when people were hunting, things that they trapped for, like lynx, were worth about $1000. Whoever made this kind of money, at that time they would have been helped with compensation. This January, when people that were trapping sold some lynx, they were only worth $100.

Judging by that, if we trap a whole bunch of fur, we will be able to earn some compensation. For the Inuit, if they shoot one polar bear they can get $1000. If they get two polar bears they would be able to get compensation.

I do not think it is right, Mr. Speaker. What I am saying is, we would have to trap a lot of fur-bearing animals to get compensation. I am just talking on behalf of the Dene and Inuit people that are trapping. If they want something, they have to hunt for it. For compensation I do not think it is working well for hunters and trappers. That is what I am talking about. The white man's law does not seem to be working well for the Dene.

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Workers' Compensation For Hunters And Trappers

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The Speaker

Members' statements. Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Kakfwi .

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Return To Question O169-12(2): Allocation Of Staff Houses In Communities

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, this is in response to a question asked by Mr. Pudlat on February 26, following another question he asked earlier, O114-12(2), on February 26. If I understand the Member's question correctly, he is asking if there was any additional information he could be provided with as to why there were no new staff houses being built in the coming year.

Mr. Speaker, as we have indicated many times, there is only limited capital funding available for the coming year. There are many demands for capital projects, and as a government we have had to balance all the needs to make sure that the most critical ones are met. For 1992-93, no additional person years will be proposed as part of the government's budget. Therefore, in spite of the fact that we do not have the number of houses we need in each community, it was not possible to allocate money for new staff housing units. Thank you.

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Return To Question O169-12(2): Allocation Of Staff Houses In Communities

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Mr. Antoine .

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Return To Question O169-12(2): Allocation Of Staff Houses In Communities

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

I would like to seek unanimous consent to go back to Members' statements.

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Return To Question O169-12(2): Allocation Of Staff Houses In Communities

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent to return to Item 3, Members' statements. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Proceed, Mr. Antoine .

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Development Of Highways And Transportation Links

Revert To Item 3: Members' Statements

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the economic future of Deh Cho region, and likewise the Mackenzie Valley, is dependent on the rapid development of highways and transportation links. We need to be able to send products and other resources to a market, and we need to attract tourists and other consumers to our scenic and traditional communities. The former government realized the economic promise inherent in an improved transportation system.

I am sure that the honourable Member for Amittuq and his officials must remember on October 15, 1990 when Gordon Wray, then Minister of the department, announced four strategic objectives which would guide his new Northwest Territories transportation strategy.

Mr. Speaker, the second objective was a commitment to push back our economic frontiers through highway improvements aimed at linking our resources to their markets. I can quote from Hansard what Mr. Wray said that day. He said, "We are proposing major new highway construction projects to put more communities on the highway map and to provide access to vast areas for tourism and the responsible development of renewable and non-renewable resources." Among the proposed projects was an extension of the Mackenzie Highway to Inuvik, Mr. Speaker. The people of the Deh Cho region believe this public government should keep its word.

Mr. Speaker, I am disheartened by the fact that the current cabinet appears to have turned its back to principles outlined by the previous government's transportation strategy. An example is the decision not to proceed this year with plans to build a bridge across Willowlake River linking Wrigley with Fort Simpson. This project would have been one step toward the sort of development that was the key government objective 16 months ago.

I realize that our government's finances are in a sorry shape, but, so far, most of what we have heard from colleagues on the other side of this House has been regressive talk about down-sizing, attrition, postponement and getting lame. I fully agree with the need for tighter money management at the departmental level, but, Mr. Speaker, this cabinet must stop to realize that if we forget about taking initiatives to develop our northern resource base, we will never be able to sustain our economy over a longer term. Mahsi cho.

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Members' statements. Mr. Koe .

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Government Leader's Birthday

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to honour one of our distinguished Members of this Legislature. Today happens to be a birthday of the honourable Member for Nunakput .

---Applause

On behalf of her constituents and all the Inuvialuit constituents from the Delta, we have some gifts for her. I would like to present them to the honourable Member. Happy birthday!

---Applause

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There will be a new item on the order paper called "Ode to a Premier ." Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Morin .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to a question asked by Mr. Pudluk on February 21, regarding Resolute Bay pipeline freezing. I wish to provide an update to Mr. Pudluk on the freezing of the Resolute Bay water pipeline. It was the water supply line between Char Lake pumphouse and the water treatment plant which froze when a check valve at the Char Lake pumphouse failed. Public Works crews were able to thaw the line and restore normal service on February 16th. In the meantime, water to the town site was maintained by trucking water from Char Lake to the water treatment plant.

The faulty valve has been replaced. In an effort to avoid future such occurrences, DPW has installed additional alarm systems at the water plant and at the pumphouse. If an alarm goes off, a telephone dialer system places a phone call to DPW personnel. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Returns to oral questions. Mr. Whitford .

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Return To Question O82-12(2): Protection Of The Public Against Health Practitioners With Communicable Diseases

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to a question asked by Mr. Todd on February 19, 1992 dealing with the protection of the public against physicians with communicable diseases. Mr. Speaker, on February 19, 1992, the honourable Member asked whether the chief medical health officer for the Province of Manitoba advised her counterpart in this jurisdiction of a dentist infected by a human immune deficiency virus, HIV. The answer is, "No." The Northwest Territories chief medical health officer was not advised of the dentist's condition.

NWT public health regulations require individuals who know or suspect that they, or any other person, including a practitioner, are infected, to report such cases to the NWT health officials. In the case of the HIV infected dentist, neither the patient nor anyone associated with the patient reported the infection.

The Department of Health will advise health boards to ensure that contractors providing service in the NWT are aware of the reporting requirements under the NWT public health regulations.

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

This is a return to a question asked by Mr. Gargan on February 20, that deals with a dental practitioner with HIV or AIDS to inform patients. Mr. Speaker, unless a worker's health status was affecting his or her ability to perform professional duties, a mandatory requirement by a regional health board that the practitioner reveal his/her personal health status would contravene generally accepted Canadian human rights codes.

Mr. Speaker, although there is no legislative requirement for an HIV/AIDS infected dentist to inform his/her licensing authority of his/her condition, the Canadian Dental Association's Code of Ethics requires that the individual inform the licensing authority of any condition or serious incapacity that has or will affect, over time, his/her ability to practise safely and competently.

The NWT application form to practise dentistry in the NWT does request the applicant to reveal whether "they are presently free from any communicable or infectious disease" at the time of the initial application. The registry, however, has no way of knowing whether the information provided is accurate. In most cases, individuals who have an HIV infection would not know.

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Return To Question O120-12(2): Upgrading Of Lake Harbour Airstrip

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Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Pudlat on February 21, 1992, with respect to upgrading of the Lake Harbour airstrip. On Friday, February 21, the Member from Baffin South asked me if the improvements to the Lake Harbour airport he asked about in December were included in the department's capital plan for next year. In my answer to the Member's question in December, I recognized that the Lake Harbour airport was built on uneven ground. At the same time, I pointed out that Transport Canada has certified and licensed the airport for visual flight rules, day and night operations. The slope in the runway is not a danger to safe air carrier service.

In the "Northwest Territories' Transportation Strategy" there is a table on page 54 which outlines a proposed capital spending program for the community airports in the Northwest Territories. The strategy proposes, first of all, to bring all community airports up to a condition where they can meet Transport Canada's licensing requirements for airport certification. Next, the strategy proposes that the Department of Transportation should improve the airports that are certified but below standard for the type of aircraft and the amount of traffic the airport serves.

Finally, the strategy identifies the communities that require new airports because the existing airport interferes with the community's safe and orderly growth.

The Lake Harbour airport is included in this last group of airports. The community has a licensed airport that meets its air traffic demand. I agree with the Member that the airport is in a poor location and takes up land that the community could put to much better use. However, the department's efforts must be concentrated on the communities with the most urgent airport needs.

The answer to the Member's question is that improvements to the Lake Harbour airport are not in the Department of Transportation's capital plan for the next year. Thank you.

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Return To Question O212-12(2): Status Of Community Hall For Sanikiluaq

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Pudlat on March 3, regarding Sanikiluaq community hall. A community hall for Sanikiluaq is not currently in the department's capital forecasting plan. A number of years ago the community was asked whether they wanted a new arena or community hall and they chose an arena as their priority. The Department of Education had plans at that time for the construction of a gymnasium. The new gymnasium was completed in 1988. The new arena is currently scheduled for completion in 1994-95.

With the community receiving these two facilities, it is unlikely the department will be able to include construction of a community hall in our budget in the foreseeable future. However, the design and siting of the new arena will allow for the future addition of a community hall when it becomes feasible.

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Question O249-12(2): Job Skills To Make Social Assistance Recipients More Self-sufficient

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Ernie Bernhardt

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to ask the Minister of Social Services a question on yesterday's statement on social assistance case loads. Part three of the Minister's statement of March 3rd deals with continuation of a five-year agreement with CEIC, Canada Employment and Immigration Commission and Health and Welfare Canada to help social assistance recipients become more self-sufficient. This program sets a priority on training, upgrading and job development skills. Can the Minister indicate which job-related skills will be targeted within this program?

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Minister of Social Services , Mr. Whitford .

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, I am not able to give the specifics. We deal with various regions, and if I am correct there are some regional considerations made but I cannot give him specifics.

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Question O250-12(2): Process For Setting Workers' Compensation Rates

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There have been several people who have shown up regularly in the gallery who are interested in issues related to the Workers' Compensation Board. I would like to ask the Minister responsible for the Workers' Compensation Board whether he could tell us the process by which the rates or what we call YMIR, yearly maximum insurable remuneration are arrived at under our current set-up.

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Minister responsible for the Workers' Compensation Board, Mr. Patterson .

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, I am a new Minister and I have not dealt with the YMIR issue before, but the way I am handling it is that I have asked the Workers' Compensation Board at one of the first meetings I had with them, noting that the YMIR is now a number of years out of date and has not been adjusted, I asked the Workers' Compensation Board, for whom it is an issue, to make recommendations to me on a priority basis on what would be an appropriate new level on the YMIR. The board is diligently working on that, Mr. Speaker. Once I get their

recommendations I will have to take them to cabinet and then, in the usual process, through this House for a legislative amendment to the WCB Act which would then approve a new YMIR.

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you. To the same Minister. We are currently at the stage where Mr. Hinchey will cease to be the chairman of that board -- in the middle of the month -- and there are all kinds of uncertainties about membership on that board. Is it real or a fact that we now have a board that will find it difficult to make decisions within the next few months?

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

I would say not at all, Mr. Speaker. First of all, the terms of the current four members of the board do not end until June or July, and I expect that that issue will have been well in hand and will have been dealt with at the board level long before June or July.

As far as the chairman is concerned, he will be attending and chairing the next meeting of the WCB at the end of this month, at which I expect that issue to be resolved and from which I expect recommendations to be made to me for furtherance with cabinet and the Legislature. So I do not think there is going to be any problem of discontinuity by any changes that might be made in chairperson or board members. Thank you.

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Should changes to the levels be recommended, could the Minister indicate to the House what timetable for legislation he could envisage? For example, could he get this accomplished by the June or July session or would we have to wait until the fall?

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, as the honourable Member knows, the legislative timetable is not up to the Minister alone; it depends on the standing committee on legislation who may well choose to have public hearings or receive submissions on the proposed amendment to the act once it gets to second reading. But having mentioned that caveat, Mr. Speaker, I think that it is realistic to expect that I could bring legislation to the next session of this Assembly in June, July, and then we will have to see how fast it can move. It really is a one-line amendment but there is a the matter of consultation and public hearing which will have to be determined by the standing committee on legislation.

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Question O251-12(2): Government's Contingency Plan In Event Of "no" Vote On Plebiscite

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Mr. Speaker, I have a question for the Minister of Intergovernmental and Aboriginal Affairs . Recently I was troubled by public comments made by one of the Minister's colleagues that if there is a strong "No" vote on the boundary plebiscite the Inuit land claim will be lost. Has the Minister of Intergovernmental and Aboriginal Affairs undertaken any studies or developed any contingency plans which will guide the government's response in the event of a strong "No" vote on the boundary plebiscite?

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Mr. Kakfwi .

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, the claim of the Inuit of the Eastern Arctic is guided by the TFN, is based on the premise that the question of division has been settled in 1982. The claim of the Tungavik Federation of Nunavut goes on the assumption that division is going to happen and that Nunavut is going to be created. The plebiscite on May 4th is simply a plebiscite that asks people of the NWT if they would support the boundary that would be attached to the plebiscite question, as the boundary that is acceptable to divide the NWT.

As a government we have not done any studies about what may happen if the plebiscite question results in a resounding no, because we also go on the assumption that the question, which is reflected in the plebiscite question, is seeking whether or not people would accept that boundary as a boundary to divide, not whether they support division or not.

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Can the Minister assure the House that the hard work and commitment that has already gone into the Nunavut land claim will not be wiped out in the event of a "No" vote?

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, as a Minister and as a government I do not think we can give any assurance at all in the area that the Member is questioning. Thank you.

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Question O252-12(2): Net Savings In Restructuring Housing Corporation

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Page 260

Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As Members probably have read, decisions in this House yesterday have somehow challenged the ability of government to make reductions in the Housing Corporation. I want to ask the Minister if he is prepared to guarantee that in the restructuring of the Housing Corporation, as was proposed yesterday by the bill, whether or not he can guarantee to the House that the net savings to government would amount to $1.3 million or more.

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We will not save one cent because there is no change.

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, the honourable Member is willing to indicate that Members here are not prepared to find net savings in government. He said that there would be savings. Could he guarantee to me, as a Member who opposed any changes in the Housing Corporation, that net savings would be $1.3 million?

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Once again, there are going to be no savings because the bill is dead.

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Question O253-12(2): Renovations To Elders' Facility, Cape Dorset

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Kenoayoak Pudlat

Baffin South

(Translation) Mr. Speaker, my question is to the Minister of the Housing Corporation . Before we go into the capital estimates, I would like to ask a question to the Minister of the Housing Corporation . Cape Dorset has applied for renovations to be made to the elders' facility. Can the Minister tell me if he has received the application regarding this elders' facility in Cape Dorset? Apparently there was an error in this application. I would like the Minister to respond to this as soon as he can. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think the Member is asking about a senior citizens' facility. All I am aware of, right now is that there are a total of 14 units going into Cape Dorset and a total of five units going into Lake Harbour. Thank you.

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Question O254-12(2): Status Of Management Board At Akaitcho Hall

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to direct my question to the Minister of Education . Last week, Mr. Speaker, I gave him a copy of a letter written to me by a member of the Akaitcho Hall board. Mr. Speaker, there are a large number of students from all over the North who come to Akaitcho Hall, and Akaitcho Hall has an advisory board. However, there was a movement by this advisory board to create a management board, and it was done with regard to a board development officer from the Department of Education.

That position has since been resolved and there has not been any kind of movement with regard to a direction the advisory board is going would be met. I would like to ask the Minister if there is support for this advisory board to accomplish this management board status.

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Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will have to take the question as notice. Thank you.

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Question O255-12(2): Status Of Funding Policies Being Developed By Maca

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Henry Zoe

North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question will be directed to the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs . Mr. Speaker, the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs was developing two policies last year. One was on the municipal capital assistance policy, and one on the municipal operating assistance policy. Could the Minister inform the House where they are now? Are they in front of cabinet now? When is this decision going to be made with respect to the policies?

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Minister of MACA , Mr. Patterson .

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, those proposed funding policies which have been under discussion for a couple of years, under the auspices of the NWT Association of Municipalities, are before cabinet at this moment. Thank you.

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Henry Zoe

North Slave

Mr. Speaker, can I ask the Minister: When does he anticipate that cabinet will be looking at these proposals?

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Soon, Mr. Speaker.

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Henry Zoe

North Slave

What is your definition of "soon"? It could be tomorrow. Can I get the Minister to give me a specific date?

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

The Member is correct, it could be tomorrow. Thank you.

---Laughter

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Earlier this morning one of my elder colleagues said, "When government says 'soon' it might mean 10 years." So we changed the word to "immediately" and he said, "That might mean five years."

---Laughter

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Question O256-12(2): Development Of Transportation Strategy

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Mr. Speaker, earlier I quoted the former Minister of Transportation on the need to develop a transportation access beyond our frontiers. I would also like to remind the House of what the honourable Member for Hay River said about building highways to our resources. According to Hansard of October 29, 1990, he referred to the new NWT transportation strategy and stated that: "I think that once you take the inventory of what is in the NWT and what the potentials are, and then you start working around with where your best roads would lie or best transportation corridors would lie, I think that makes good economic and good developmental sense."

Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Economic Development and Tourism . Would the Minister agree with me that one of the main barriers to developing economic potential of the Mackenzie Valley is the inadequate and incomplete transportation corridor throughout the region? Mahsi.

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John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, not only is it a barrier in the Mackenzie Valley, but it is a barrier on Baffin Island, the Kitikmeot, the Keewatin and all the way across this territory and in the northern parts of the provinces. That has been expressed by the Government Leader to the Prime Minister. I agree, not only in the Mackenzie Valley, but all across the Territories, yes, sir. Thank you.

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Minister agree that the Northwest Territories will, over the long term, continue to encounter financial problems unless we begin to develop some of the resource potential that we cannot reach with our current highway system? Mahsi.

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John Pollard

Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there is no question that if we were able to take some of those resources, whether they were renewable or non-renewable, from the Northwest Territories and get them to market in an economic fashion, that it would improve the finances of everybody in the Northwest Territories. There is no question about it. Thank you.

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to get the specifics. Is the Minister willing to direct his department to complete a comprehensive study of the economic development potential that could be realized through the extension of the Mackenzie Highway? Mahsi.

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John Pollard

Hay River

Yes, Mr. Speaker. We will take a look at it. Thank you.

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Question O257-12(2): Status Of NWT Housing Corporation

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Silas Arngna'naaq

Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of the Housing Corporation . The bill that was sponsored by the Minister of the Housing Corporation was to remove the board, and in place of the board would be the Minister. Does this mean that if this goes through, it would remain a corporation? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It would still be called a corporation but would be run like a department, if the bill had been passed. It was not passed.

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Silas Arngna'naaq

Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is where I am a bit confused. In removing the board and replacing the board with the Minister, it would technically still be a corporation. The statement he made over the last week was that if the board was removed, we would save the goods and services tax. If it remains technically as a corporation, how, then, are we going to save on GST when a corporation still has to pay GST? Thank you.

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That is really a dead issue because the bill did not get second reading, and I do not plan to re-introduce it in the near future. For the Member's information, a certain number of steps are involved. The first is to amend the legislation. Then it would go through first and second reading through this House, and then it goes to the legislation committee so that it can go through public consultation. The legislation committee reviews it; the public, the housing authorities, agencies, boards and commissions, or whoever wants input at that time could do so. That is the process.

But, it did not get that far. If it had gone that far and had been passed, then you could have eliminated the board and saved $300,000 direct costs and $300,000 indirect costs, which would have made it available to negotiate with the feds to take it off the GST because it would have been under the government's arm, it would have been a department. You would have to keep the shell of the corporation in order to get CMHC funding. Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister of Health if he could advise this House as to the number of individuals in the Territories with the HIV disease.

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am not sure of the exact number, but the information I had was that there were, I repeat, were, 13 reported cases.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, this number seems to have increased in comparison to last year, when I think the number was about 10. Is the Minister able to advise this House which communities the virus is in? Thank you.

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No, Mr. Speaker.

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Question O259-12(2): Human Rights Code Re Health Status

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to direct my question to the Minister of Health . The Minister has indicated that under the Canadian Human Rights Code, a person does not have to say or reveal his or her personal health status. We do not have a human rights code here, but I assume we are using the Canadian Human Rights Code with regard to any human rights issues. Right?

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe it does.

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

According to the Minister's response, he said that a dentist does not have to tell his patients that he has the HIV virus, and the same would apply to the patient. Right? If the patient has the HIV virus, he does not have to tell the dentist. Is this correct?

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Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe that in the Northwest Territories, anyone with a communicable disease must report it to the health officials.

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In the Minister's response, then, a dentist is also identified as a health official.

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes.

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Am I also correct in saying that any health official with a communicable disease does not have to tell his patients that he does have a disease?

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, the question is a good question, and I would like to answer the honourable Member; however, it does get quite complicated and it borders on a legal question. I would like to take the question as notice so I can come back with a proper answer for the Member.

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If I could ask the honourable Minister of Health if he could also review what other changes are necessary to give some guarantees to patients that doctors and medical officials are, in fact, reporting the same kinds of diseases if they have somehow contracted those diseases.

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There is one area that I certainly am concerned with and I am going to be looking into. The applications that require a person to identify any communicable diseases they have, at the time of initial application, may be a problem.

Often, with HIV, it is not known for many, many years that the individual has it, and perhaps at the time of application there is no knowledge of any type of infection, and because of the incubation period something like that can take a rather lengthy time and only be discovered afterwards; however, the individual making the application in all sincerity has answered the question then.

Perhaps there could be some form of legislation that will require a person, upon discovery or identification of a communicable disease such as HIV, to update the application and thereby we will have a better chance of informing the public on such matters.

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Question O261-12(2): Obligation To Reveal Personal Health Status

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to

direct my question to the Minister of Justice with regard to the Canadian Charter of Rights, since we are governed by that because we do not have one ourselves. I would like to ask the Minister whether or not a person has to reveal his personal health status, that it means just that; whether they are a patient or a medical practitioner, they are not obliged to reveal their health status.

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, I thought that the Minister of Health had essentially taken that question on notice in order to obtain legal advice, and if I misunderstood the Member's question to him, forgive me, but I will also have to take this question on notice.

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James Arvaluk

Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Justice , regarding his statement on Nunatsiaq News on February 28. In light of Ms. Mike 's Member's statement, did the Minister make the statement as the Minister of Justice or as a private Member?

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Well, Mr. Speaker, I am not sure if the honourable Member's comments correctly put the alleged statement in its proper context, but in any event it was made in my capacity as MLA for Iqaluit. Thank you.

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James Arvaluk

Aivilik

Mr. Speaker, would the Minister of Justice issue a statement stating that was not the opinion of the MLAs from Nunavut, and also it is not representative of the Inuit views in regard to the friendship and co-operation we have received from the Dene community? Would he issue a statement withdrawing his statement, or at least stating that he was not representing the Inuit views?

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I think, Mr. Arvaluk , that is not within the responsibility of the Minister, but perhaps the Government Leader and another Minister would like to respond as to the government's position on this particular issue. Government Leader , Ms. Cournoyea .

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, as everyone knows in this House, each and every one of us relies on each other for support, and from time to time in this House, because we are a consensus government, it rests upon people who are put in the cabinet to be a little more careful in how they state their opinions, because it is misread as representing the government's position. The Dene in the Northwest Territories have a prime interest and a position that they would like to uphold as residents of the Northwest Territories, and they should be treated equally and with due respect. However, we will be discussing this topic in cabinet so we can be more cognizant of our viewpoints put forward as MLAs. Thank you.

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am concerned about the work of the proposed mining safety bill committee. My question to the responsible Minister is: Would he indicate to the House, since the addition of a non-unionized person to this committee seems to be controversial, what process he went through to choose this particular person from the non-unionized mine workers?

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