Debates of June 6th, 2006

This is page numbers 151 - 208 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

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Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

Aklavik Flood Emergency Response

Minister's Statement 15-15-(5): Report Of The Expert Panel On Equalization And Territorial Formula Financing

Search And Rescue Initiatives

Fairness In The Justice System

Catholic Schools Overcrowding

Representative Public Service

Day Care Concerns

High Cost Of Living

Support For Small Business

Recognition Of Chief Jimmy Bruneau School By The Society For Advancement And Excellence In Education

Adequacy Of Student Financial Assistance

Passing Of Fort Good Hope Resident Bruno Ritias

Surgical And Specialist Services At Inuvik Regional Hospital

Multi-year Funding For Non-government Organizations

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Support For Small Business

Assistance To Ngos

Inequities In Day Care Support

Need For Bylaw Officers In Tlicho Communities

Northern Residence Income Tax Deduction

Rental Subsidy Program

Public Service Performance Review

Comparative Analysis Of The Novel Housing Project

Student Financial Assistance Amounts

Funding Support For Day Care

Written Question 6-15(5): Comparative Analysis Of The Novel Housing Project

Written Question 7-15(5): Compliance With The Valic Decision

Tabled Document 16-15(5): Report On The Staff Retention Policy - Year Ending March 31, 2006

Tabled Document 17-15(5): Government Of The Northwest Territories 2005 Public Service Annual Report

Tabled Document 18-15(5): Letter From Tlicho Grand Chief George Mackenzie Recognizing The Value Of Elders' Knowledge

Appointment Of Two Human Rights Commission Members

Bill 6: Engineering And Geoscience Profession Act

Bill 7: Pharmacy Act

Bill 8: Miscellaneous Statutes Amendment Act, 2006

Bill 10: Forgiveness Of Debts Act, 2006-2007

Bill 11: Tourism Act

Bill 12: Garnishment Remedies Statutes Amendment Act

Extended Adjournment Of The House To October 17, 2006

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

To Delete $100,000 From Maca's Regional Operations Activity In Bill 2

To Delete $367,000 From Nwthc In Bill 2

Motion To Extend Sitting Hours

To Delete $222,000 From Transportation's Airports Activity In Bill 2

To Delete $320,000 From Pws's Asset Management Activity In Bill 2

Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Bill 3:

An Act To Amend The Legislative Assembly And Executive Council Act

Bill 4:

An Act To Amend The Supplementary Retiring Allowances Act

Bill 5:

An Act To Amend The Territorial Parks Act

Item 22: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Honourable Brendan Bell , Mr. Braden , Honourable Paul Delorey , Honourable Charles Dent , Mrs. Groenewegen , Honourable Joe Handley , Mr. Hawkins , Honourable David Krutko , Mr. Lafferty , Ms. Lee , Honourable Michael McLeod , Mr. McLeod, Mr. Menicoche , Honourable Michael Miltenberger , Mr. Pokiak , Mr. Ramsay , Honourable Floyd Roland , Mr. Villeneuve , Mr. Yakeleya

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

Page 151

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Good afternoon, colleagues. Welcome back to the House. Welcome to our guests in the gallery as well. Orders of the day. Ministers' statements. The honourable Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs , Mr. McLeod.

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Minister's Statement 14-15(5): Aklavik Flood Emergency Response

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 151

Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, now that life is starting to get back to normal for the residents of Aklavik and Inuvik in the wake of the flooding and subsequent evacuation of Aklavik, I would like to take this opportunity to commend the many people and organizations who worked so hard to respond positively to this flood and evacuation.

On May 26th, an ice jam on the Mackenzie River resulted in water levels rising in the community of Aklavik so that many sections of the community were under water. Aklavik's Emergency Response Committee responded quickly and efficiently by organizing the evacuation of residents whose home were affected by the rising floodwaters. Responding equally as quickly was the town of Inuvik's emergency response team, who, on very short notice, prepared to accept the over 300 residents of Aklavik who were forced to leave their homes.

Residents of both Aklavik and Inuvik responded in typical northern spirit by working together, supporting one another and maintaining their compassion and sense of humour throughout the entire ordeal. I understand that Aklavik's motto may even have been temporarily changed from "Never Say Die" to "Never Say Dry."

---Laughter

In Aklavik, Mayor Hansen and his team did an excellent job in assessing the situation and responding quickly and competently in both the emergency response and the evacuation. Hamlet of Aklavik staff are to be commended in working so diligently to re-establish basic services within the community, including water delivery, sewage pump-out and road maintenance, under such difficult conditions. Their efforts resulted in Aklavik residents being able to return home sooner than anticipated.

In Inuvik, Mayor Peter Clarkson and his team at the Town of Inuvik, including the emergency response team under the direction of Deputy Fire Chief Julie Miller, prepared to welcome Aklavik evacuees in record time in an organized, competitive and sensitive manner. Their quick response, with minimal advance notice, can be used as a "best practice" for government and other communities in similar situations to learn from.

Mr. Speaker, the Government of the Northwest Territories provided support and advice to the community throughout this ordeal. Municipal and Community Affairs supports communities in undertaking community emergency planning and response. Regional and headquarters staff worked to support both communities and confirmed how impressed they were with every facet of the emergency response.

A number of other government departments and agencies were involved, such as the Department of Transportation whose staff were quick to arrange air transport to move people to and from Inuvik. As well, Health and Social Services' environmental health division, Public Works and Services, the NWT Power Corporation, the RCMP and the Canadian Forces' Joint Task Force North all provided input, timely advice and assistance throughout.

The next step is to assess the damages, begin the repairs and explore how we can support both individual residents and the two community governments in covering the costs of damages and the emergency response overall. Staff from Municipal and Community Affairs are in Aklavik and Inuvik this week to attend public debriefing meetings and discuss how these next steps will unfold.

Once again, on behalf of the Government of the Northwest Territories, I want to commend the leaders and residents from Aklavik and Inuvik fro such a strong emergency response. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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Minister's Statement 14-15(5): Aklavik Flood Emergency Response

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Ministers' statements. The honourable Minister of Finance , Mr. Roland .

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Minister's Statement 15-15-(5): Report Of The Expert Panel On Equalization And Territorial Formula Financing

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Floyd Roland

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yesterday the federal Minister of Finance , the Honourable James Flaherty, released the Report of the Expert Panel on Equalization and Territorial Formula Financing.

This report has important implications for the fiscal future of the Government of the Northwest Territories, GNWT, and for the residents of this territory. The expert panel was established by the federal government early in 2005 with a mandate to undertake an independent review and make recommendations on the allocation of the equalization and territorial formula financing programs. The publication of this report sets the stage for formal

discussions between Canada and the provinces and territories to address outstanding fiscal issues. Provincial and territorial Premiers will be briefed by panel members in Edmonton on Thursday.

The formula financing grant represents, on average, about 70 percent of the GNWT's total revenues. It is absolutely critical that formula financing provide adequate funding that will allow us to deliver public services to the residents of the NWT. It is equally important that the arrangements include the right fiscal incentives for us to encourage economic growth, to develop our natural resources and to become less dependent, over time, on federal transfer payments.

We wanted to be sure that the panel understood the unique circumstances we face in Canada's North, as well as our specific issues here in the NWT. Therefore, the GNWT worked together with Nunavut and Yukon and presented the panel with a joint territorial submission on formula financing. We told the panel that the "fixed pool" approach to territorial funding that was put in place in 2004 is inappropriate. The fixed amounts create a zero sum game for the territories, where increases in one territory's grant come at the expense of the other territories.

We provided specific proposals for adequate territorial financing arrangements that also include the right fiscal incentives for economic growth.

The panel travelled to Yellowknife in August 2005 and hosted a roundtable discussion where they heard directly from northerners that formula financing arrangements need to take into account the high costs of delivering services in the North.

I met with the members of the panel last August and reiterated our government's concerns that the NWT must receive a net fiscal benefit from the development of our natural resources.

We are pleased with the report. The panel, in issuing a separate report on formula financing, acknowledged that the territories are different, and require different fiscal arrangements from the provinces. The same conclusion was reached by the Council of the Federation Advisory Panel on Fiscal Imbalance in their report in April.

The expert panel members clearly heard the messages they received from northerners. The panel's key recommendations include:

• replacing the "fixed pool" with a formula-driven approach providing three separate grants to the territories based on each territory's own needs and fiscal capacity;

• addressing concerns regarding adequacy of funding levels;

• improving the incentives for the territories to raise our own revenues by decreasing the offsets against revenue growth; and,

• using appropriate escalators that reflect population growth and the growth in provincial and local government spending, rather than the fixed and inadequate 3.5 percent per year proposed by the federal government.

These recommendations clearly tell us that the expert panel has listened to the territories' concerns. Not only did the panel stretch its mandate to recommend both removal of the "fixed pool" of funding and replace it with the calculation of separate grants for each territory and an escalator that responds to our growing needs, but the panel also accepted our arguments supporting an increased fiscal incentive to develop our economies.

The panel recommends that revenues from natural resources be dealt with in separate agreements and not in the formula itself.

---Applause

The panel clearly stated their support, however, for the territories to see direct benefits from the development of their resources. The Prime Minister himself has stated that northerners should be the primary beneficiaries of the revenues generated by resource development in the NWT.

We cannot know with certainty what today's report means to us fiscally until we see the final arrangements that Canada will put in place. From our perspective, however, the report of the expert panel presents a reasonable approach to structuring formula financing arrangements. Although we must continue to focus on ensuring that overall funding levels are adequate, I am confident that, if the federal government accepts these recommendations, we can reach agreement on technical details.

In fact, given the consensus of the three territories, my territorial colleagues and I have written to Minister Flaherty proposing that work on formula financing should begin in advance of and independently from discussion on equalization.

We now have the three key reports that we need in order to move forward:

• the Report of the Expert Panel on Equalization and Territorial Formula Financing;

• the Report of the Council of the Federation Advisory Panel on Fiscal Imbalance; and,

• the federal budget paper on restoring fiscal balance in Canada.

Minister Flaherty laid out a process in his budget for reaching agreement on federal/provincial/territorial fiscal arrangements. Finance Ministers will be meeting at the end of June to begin discussions on these three reports and on how to incorporate their findings into new fiscal arrangements. A number of other intergovernmental meetings will be held over the summer, with a First Ministers' meeting to be held this fall. The 2007 federal budget will lay out the new fiscal arrangements. I look forward to meeting with Minister Flaherty to begin these very important discussions.

Finally, I would like to take this opportunity to thank the members of the expert panel for coming north and listening to the concerns of our residents and also for compiling a report that acknowledges these concerns and proposes solutions that will help to address them. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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Minister's Statement 15-15-(5): Report Of The Expert Panel On Equalization And Territorial Formula Financing

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 153

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland . Ministers' statements. The honourable Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs , Mr. McLeod.

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Minister's Statement 16-15(5): Search And Rescue Initiatives

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to speak today about several ground search and rescue initiatives implemented by the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs.

The department recently produced new ground search and rescue training standards, which will be used to train community representatives in ground search and rescue techniques. Community representatives will then use the standards to train their individual ground search and rescue teams.

Training standards will ensure all participants are trained to the same level and individuals who volunteer are safely employed during any search operation. I am pleased to advise that the Northwest Territories is the first Canadian jurisdiction to develop these formal ground search and rescue training standards.

The Department of Municipal and Community Affairs has also developed a Northwest Territories Youth Search and Rescue Prevention Program. The intent of this program is to provide children with information on basic survival skills they will need to survive should they become lost while out on the land.

The Department of Municipal and Community Affairs has also worked with the federal government on its ground search and rescue information system database. This database will provide information specific to the Northwest Territories. The data made available from this system will be used to track and report on search and rescue operations on the land and on inland waters. The database will produce information on lost person behaviour patterns in order to determine high probability search areas.

Finally, the department has recently completed a study of all radio communications infrastructure in the Northwest Territories. This study has produced a comprehensive listing of the location, frequency type and owner of all radio communications, and will be used to determine what radio equipment could be called on to assist during emergencies if backup communications are required.

The initiatives undertaken by the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs were done in partnership with the federal government's search and rescue initiatives fund, which provides assistance to provinces and territories to develop new and innovative projects to assist in search and rescue work.

These initiatives will support community volunteers and help to increase the effectiveness of Northwest Territories search and rescue situations. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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Minister's Statement 16-15(5): Search And Rescue Initiatives

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Ministers' statements. Members' statements. The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Fairness In The Justice System

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I would like to speak on our justice system and offer one suggestion as to why our jailhouses are full. We have all heard the phrase: "If you do the hard time, you will do the tough time." In Nahendeh, there is another phrase: "If you do petty crime, you will do a long time."

Mr. Speaker, what I am referring to is the growing number of constituents who are expressing their concern that they are being advised to plead guilty or accept sentencing conditions without adequate legal advice or other proceedings. I have constituents who are being advised that if they choose to plead not guilty and use the system, then the punishment is often worse. Oftentimes, during these emotional and difficult times when the accuser is unaware of their rights or their judgment is clouded, during these pressing situations individuals can agree to what is recommended by justice.

Yet we have a fundamental principle in our legal system that is meant to curtail this type of justice: innocent until proven guilty.

I have asked in this House to give me conviction rates in my region. I believe it is timing and this is one of the reasons why there are more and more people in our jail system. I feel like it is strong arming our people into a plea before they adequately have the legal resource to make an informed decision. To compound this problem, lawyers are often difficult to retain, let alone one that the accused feels comfortable with. Mr. Speaker, it does take many phone calls and a number of weeks by Nahendeh residents to even establish first contact.

It is important to be mindful of the justice staff in our communities, yet once again our training, policies, procedures and resources are not responsive to the real needs of our people. We need proper legal consultation and proper legal accommodation.

Our justice system must recognize that in small and remote communities the level of judicial infrastructure or professional services is limited and assistance and flexibility must be given to the accused. I am not saying that an offender should be given special treatment or there should not be repercussions for their actions, but our justice must be fair for all. If one region has it, then all regions must have it. I feel that the number of convictions in Nahendeh have increased and, I will go further, I don't think it's fair that the punishment is worse if you use the system. It's there to protect the rights of all people, Mr. Speaker. Mahsi cho.

---Applause

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Fairness In The Justice System

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Range Lake , Ms. Lee .

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Catholic Schools Overcrowding

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wish to speak today about the situations surrounding the overcrowded conditions at Catholic schools in Yellowknife. As you might recall, Mr. Speaker, at the end of the February session we agreed, very reluctantly on my part, to give the Yellowknife Education Facilities Review

Committee a chance to conclude its work, as long as the Minister agreed to make some decisions before the June session. With two days of session left to go, we are not any further ahead than we were. As I expected, and any reasonable person looking at the situation should have expected, the committee has not been able to reach a decision about what to do about the imbalance of numbers at the schools. One thing the committee has agreed on is there is only one person who has any legal power and obligation to resolve this issue and that is the Minister of ECE .

Mr. Speaker, I have to say how troubled I am that even in my most recent conversation with the Minister, he continues to show a complete lack of understanding on exactly what his powers and authorities are on this issue. He continues to see himself as a bystander who is watching the procession go by or, at the very least, he wants someone else to make the decision for him or make the whole mess just go away. He continues to show no capacity whatsoever to see the consequence of his inaction or the ability to foresee, prepare or otherwise deal with the aftermath of his inaction and lack of leadership.

Mr. Speaker, I have to tell you I have attended a number of public meetings on this issue. I have to commend the trustees of both school boards and teachers, parents and students for valiantly trying to see their way out of this. During no time did the Minister ever show a plan of action, a vision or a roadmap on how we are all supposed to get out of this mess he has created. He could not bring himself to present a plan that could work for both parties, which I believe is possible if he would just put his mind to it, and effort, and show some leadership.

Mr. Speaker, the result of this inaction is that the students, teachers and trustees of both school boards are placed in an enormously difficult position very unfairly and the ensuing discussions threaten to divide our school communities unnecessarily. We might just end up with a lawsuit on our hands. This all goes to show you, Mr. Speaker, how much it costs the government and taxpayers when a person fails to do his job. All I can say is good luck to him, because the time is running out for him to dither any longer. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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Catholic Schools Overcrowding

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe , Mr. Villeneuve .

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Representative Public Service

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Robert Villeneuve

Tu Nedhe

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I just want to talk about this government's approach to achieve a public service that is more representative of the population it supposedly serves. When this government introduced a new approach to developing a home-grown public service back in 2002 by proposing to phase out the affirmative action policy and taking the new employment equity approach because, "It will be based on a philosophy that employees will hire a more representative workforce because it made good business and operational sense to do so, Mr. Speaker."

Mr. Speaker, we are now four years down the road from when this statement was made in this House. According to the latest statistics, the 50 percent aboriginal population of the Northwest Territories is less represented in our public service today than we were when this new employment equity approach was introduced. The number of aboriginals in management positions, the Graduate Employment Program, the summer student employment initiatives have all seen declines in the number of aboriginals. Aboriginal students are telling me that they are unable to get hired as summer students, because it is not what you know anymore but who you know that gets you a summer job in this government.

I hear about long-term aboriginal employees getting squeezed out of government positions because they raise issues that are discriminatory in nature. I hear about long-term government employees who are aboriginal and may qualify for government positions in management, only to find that positions have either been cancelled or reprofiled, or they have not been given notice or explanations as to why the human resource practices have changed.

Mr. Speaker, these are just some of the aboriginal actions and concerns I hear about all the time. If this government thinks that it is going to make some positive changes in developing a better representative public service here in the Northwest Territories, I can easily find 1,200 public service employees who will strongly disagree, because that number represents 30 percent of our public service which are aboriginal, underrepresented and underemployed by this government. This has not improved in the last 10 years, Mr. Speaker. Where is the good business sense in all of this? Where is the good operational sense? The numbers definitely do not reflect any of this.

Mr. Speaker, I think this is totally unacceptable, and I will be asking the Minister of Human Resources and FMBS questions about the thousand government positions that should be filled by aboriginal northerners later in today's session. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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Representative Public Service

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Villeneuve . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Kam Lake , Mr. Ramsay .

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Day Care Concerns

Item 3: Members' Statements

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I want to speak today on the issue of the availability of day care space and the government's plan to address this issue as it affects most of the communities we represent. Last February, I spoke of how it is that the GNWT allows for a non-level playing field by allowing some non-profit day cares to operate out of government-owned facilities while others are left to fend for themselves at a huge disadvantage.

Mr. Speaker, this continues to be allowed to happen. The Minister and his department still don't have any answers on how to correct it so none of them have to close. In Yellowknife, parents are struggling to find day care space. There are currently over 100 children left with no place to go. Parents, especially those with young infants, are faced with a very daunting task of finding a place for their children. Many are looking at day homes, both licensed and unlicensed, to try to get some help.

Space has been an issue for years, Mr. Speaker; a problem that just doesn't seem to go away. I believe, as a government, we have an obligation to the parents and to the children to ensure that there is adequate space and that there is a level playing field.

Mr. Speaker, the Minister has mentioned that, in terms of day care funding from the federal government, he has written to the new Minister responsible for Human Resources and Social Development, the Honourable Diane Finley, requesting that the federal government partner with the GNWT on providing more spaces.

Mr. Speaker, given the lack of any real progress on levelling the playing field and increasing spaces, there are questions about why the Minister and his department continue to always come up with excuses as to why things can't happen, and start making some plans to show us some real spaces and protect the ones that we currently have.

Mr. Speaker, we need a plan for day cares and spaces and we need it now. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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Day Care Concerns

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Great Slave , Mr. Braden .

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High Cost Of Living

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Bill Braden

Great Slave

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. The high cost of northern living, Mr. Speaker, is an issue that affects each and every one of us every day. It is an issue that is often debated directly and indirectly in this Assembly. We have taken some steps to address this, Mr. Speaker. Last October, we passed motions in this Assembly on energy costs and the overall cost of living. We, through our committee system, requested the government to bring forward information and proposed actions on the high cost of energy and the high cost of living. They did so. I think they did so in a very useful and a progressive manner.

Mr. Speaker, in February of this year, this Assembly did something else. We passed a motion calling for an increase in the federal northern residency tax deduction and the ongoing annual indexing of this deduction to the cost of living.

Mr. Speaker, in the NWT, we have been told that on an annual basis we spend on average $2,000 more on food than the average Canadian, we spend an extra $2,400 on housing and our utility bills are $1,200 higher, yet the federal government's northern residence tax deduction has remained unchanged since 1991, at approximately $5,475.

Mr. Speaker, in the recent federal budget, all Canadians received some limited degree of tax relief. We are going to see the GST drop by one percent on July 1st. Personal income taxes for Canadians have also been reduced. But what about the high cost of living here in the NWT?

Mr. Speaker, our own ability to make a universal, equitable change in the cost of living for all of our residents is very limited, but the federal government can. This is why we asked in our motion in February for our Premier to speak with the Yukon and Nunavut counterparts about a pan-territorial appeal to Canada to make this very progressive change. I will be following up with the Premier to see how he has advanced that request, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

---Applause

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High Cost Of Living

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Braden . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Support For Small Business

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I would like to raise awareness in this House to the need for support for small businesses in the North. It has again been brought to my attention that there is not enough support for small businesses as it relates to ongoing northern development and, more specifically, the proposed pipeline. Expectations were understandably raised since the division of RWED into Industry, Tourism and Investment and Environment and Natural Resources. Has there been anything new come from Industry, Tourism and Investment for small business since this division?

Are there any new monies out there available for lending? Are there any contribution programs like the former EDA Program with the federal government?

If northern companies are going to participate and respond to the new demands that the pipeline will create, they need to know what will be available for capital and start-up funds for their business. Has the GNWT been in discussions with any banks or lending institutions on if they will be looking to finance small business involved in the pipeline and what their requirements would be?

We need a commitment from this government to host a financial conference or workshop that brings small businesses and lenders together to discuss financing needs and solutions to ensure that those needs are met by lending institutions. When I talk about small business, Mr. Speaker, I am talking about the many owner-operated northern businesses that we have. There are a lot of potential investors out there as well, but this government does again need to play a role in facilitating matching those investors to the opportunities that will be here in the North.

Mr. Speaker, I would appreciate some answers and some action on the part of this government and, as someone has said, the opportunities for the pipeline are coming and are going to be going right by our door if we're not prepared. We need to provide as much support to small business as possible and we can't afford just to be offering kind of clich‚ answers to these kind of questions.

Mr. Speaker, I've been told time and again that businesspeople in the North feel that they could operate their companies more cheaply in the South, but they don't want to leave the North. They want to be here; they want to employ northerners. But we have to ask ourselves what we can do to ensure that they have the support that they need to continue to live and operate their businesses here in the Northwest Territories. Later today, Mr. Speaker, I'm going to have questions for the Minister of ITI as to any new initiatives or anything on the horizon that will go directly to the issue of support for small business. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Monfwi, Mr. Lafferty .

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Recognition Of Chief Jimmy Bruneau School By The Society For Advancement And Excellence In Education

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Jackson Lafferty

North Slave

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. (Translation) Mr. Speaker, my Member's statement today will be regarding the Chief Jimmy Bruneau School. It's been over 30 years, we've been having a lot of graduates over the years. (Translation ends)

...within our Tlicho region has been recognized and chosen as one of the best aboriginal schools from across central, northern, and Atlantic Canada, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

Mr. Speaker, Chief Jimmy Bruneau Regional High School in Behchoko has been selected by the GNWT and the non-profit Society for the Advancement of Excellence in Education to be part of the research study that will produce 10 case studies of exemplary aboriginal schools in order to identify and share success practices. The schools selected from across Canada were done in consultation with government and aboriginal authorities.

Mr. Speaker, the Society for the Advancement of Excellence in Education is an independent, non-profit research agency founded in 1996 to commission and share research on improving student achievement in Canada. To date this organization has produced 28 studies through research grants from Canadian foundations and governments and other agencies.

Mr. Speaker, Chief Jimmy Bruneau Regional High School is recognized throughout the North as one of the premier culture-based schools within the NWT. However, it is also becoming known for setting high standards in other areas including academic achievements, trades and technology, preparation, athletic development, and often a wide range of extracurricular opportunities for Tlicho students, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, Chief Jimmy Bruneau Regional High School has the highest number of aboriginal high school graduates than any other community school across the territory.

It is hoped that the research done for this case study will highlight the unique characteristics and strengthen the Tlicho students, staff and community so that other schools across the North can learn from the model of CJBS presence.

Mr. Speaker, this would not be possible without the hard work of the staff of CJBS, their hard work and dedication, the board, the resources people and the Tlicho leadership. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes , Mr. McLeod.

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Adequacy Of Student Financial Assistance

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, graduation ceremonies are taking place across the NWT. Every region speaks about the high number of graduates they have in their communities, and that's a good story, Mr. Speaker.

Now comes the next step: going off to college. There, Mr. Speaker, lies a lot of my concerns as a Regular MLA. When many of these students go on to college, they apply for student financial assistance. While we continue to have the best support for post-secondary students in the country, there are still a few bugs that could be ironed out. One of the major concerns, Mr. Speaker, that I hear about in Inuvik is the fact that students attending schools in the South receive the same amount as students living in the North. Is the high cost of living not factored into the amounts allocated?

The cost of living continues to escalate, but the amount that students receive stays the same. I have spoken to students outside of Inuvik who wanted to quit because it was becoming more difficult to attend college on the assistance they receive.

Mr. Speaker, while it is the responsibility of the students to help arrange their financing for school, we should do all we can to encourage students to attend post-secondary institutions and do all we can to assist them. The North will be the major beneficiary of the education of northerners. I will have questions at the appropriate time for Shawn Horcoff's uncle. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Laughter

---Applause

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Members' statements. The honourable Member for Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Passing Of Fort Good Hope Resident Bruno Ritias

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in our communities down the Northwest Territories there are people in the communities and regions that are well known, that you remember from time to time either coming up and speaking to you personally, or coming to a regional meeting and giving their opinions, or trying to get something going in the communities for their special interest groups, or you see them in talent shows, or drum dances, or hand games, or any kind of community feasts.

These people have a special talent or special gift that you remember that has a special place in your heart as an MLA in your constituency. Sometimes they bother you; you know, quite often in terms of phone calls. You work with them on some of the issues here and they're pretty persistent and dedicated to the role and to the people that they serve. They are always very creative in their decision-making or trying to get things going for their people.

Yesterday, Mr. Speaker, I was informed that the people in Fort Good Hope and the Sahtu region lost one of these good people in our community. Mr. Bruno Ritias, also known as Sir Bruno, passed away last night in Fort Good Hope of health complications, as I understand, but I'm not going to go into any details. Anyhow, Mr. Ritias was a good member of the community of Fort Good Hope and he was also a good entertainer. He provided a lot of comedy and laughter in the people and in our region. We will surely notice his absence when we go into Fort Good Hope or the Sahtu for regional meetings that he's not there.

Mr. Ritias is well known to the Sahtu people involved in community functions. Bruno was the guy who had a lot of expertise in communication. He put the radio station on the air and had a hell of a lot of creative ideas. Mr. Ritias was also disabled. But that didn't stop him. It's a tribute that yesterday was the last day of the Council of Disabled that we honour him today in Fort Good Hope and the Sahtu region in terms of where his heart went and the hard work that he did for his people. The people in Fort Good Hope will surely miss someone important. I wanted to say that in the Leg, that our hearts and our prayers are with him and his family. Thank you.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . Members' statements. The honourable Member for Nunakput , Mr. Pokiak .

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Surgical And Specialist Services At Inuvik Regional Hospital

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Calvin Pokiak

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My Member's statement today is in regard to a petition introduced by my colleague the honourable Robert McLeod , MLA for Inuvik Twin Lakes, regarding a Beaufort-Delta Regional Council petition signed by 794 Beaufort-Delta residents for emergency and surgical services at Inuvik Regional Hospital.

Mr. Speaker, the honourable Premier Joe Handley ; the Honourable Floyd Roland , Minister of Finance ; Robert McLeod , MLA Inuvik Twin Lakes; and I were in attendance at the Beaufort-Delta Regional Council meeting from March 20th to 23rd, 2006, in Inuvik. In attendance also was medical staff from Inuvik Regional Hospital, as well as government staff from Yellowknife, to listen and answer questions from the Beaufort-Delta delegates. Mr.

Speaker, the concerns raised by medical staff at Inuvik Regional Hospital and the Beaufort-Delta Regional Council involves the need for a ministerial director to allow the Inuvik Regional Health and Social Services Authority to staff specialists necessary for surgical and pay salary and benefits for specialists, including general practitioners with special training, surgeons, obstetricians, anaesthesiologists, nurse practitioners and registered nurses.

Mr. Speaker, the Premier and the Minister of Finance heard firsthand the concerns raised by the Beaufort-Delta Regional Council. I support the petition submitted by my colleague from the Beaufort-Delta Regional Council to have the Inuvik Health and Social Services Authority to hire these medical professionals. I encourage the Minister of Health and Social Services to immediately provide a policy directorate to allow the Inuvik Health and Social Services Authority to hire professional medical staff for the benefit of the Beaufort-Delta residents.

In closing, Mr. Speaker, I will continue to lobby and raise this important issue on behalf of the Beaufort-Delta Regional Council and the Inuvik Regional Health and Social Services in their endeavours to address the medical services requirements for the Beaufort-Delta residents. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Pokiak . Members' statements. The honourable Member from Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Multi-year Funding For Non-government Organizations

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Over the course of this Assembly, I have repeatedly sounded the alarm about the impending crisis in the frontline agencies brought about by the overwhelming administrative burden and a lack of adequate funding. During our pre-budget consultations last fall, I heard from many NGOs about their inability to offer competitive wages and benefits that are absolutely essential to recruiting and keeping qualified staff. I've also heard convincing cases from where many well-established organizations, that the time has come to recognize their long-standing contribution and financial responsibility by entering into a multi-year funding agreement with them.

Mr. Speaker, in the case of the Yellowknife Association of Concerned Citizens for Seniors, I don't believe I can speak about an impending crisis anymore. I believe we are here now. Negotiations with the union are about to start sometime this fall and the association finds itself in a position of being unable to offer its staff anything approaching wage parity that their employees deserve. The risk that these employees will give up and look for higher paid or I should say fair paid work elsewhere is a really, truly serious concern.

I am sure it's very convenient for the government to look at accessing the pool of trained staff that they employ because we can attract them to government wages and benefits quite easily, but we're not helping this NGO get along. We cannot continue this if we expect these organizations to be sustainable and continue to provide the high level of services we have come to depend on. Part of the challenge of this association is their lack of multi-year funding arrangement that would facilitate long-term planning.

I would like to applaud the Minister although on his recent conclusion of a multi-year funding agreement with the NWT seniors, which I have pressured him for some time to take action on, but I think that there's another step to continue. I hope that he will be able to move quickly to work out a similar agreement with the YACCS, such as an agreement that needs to bring closure to, again, a wage parity and benefits problem.

Mr. Speaker, if this Minister is not prepared to move quickly on this issue of wage parity to ensure NGOs like YACCS have adequate funding, then I guess the next question is whether the Minister is instead prepared to take over the responsibility for these valued services directly, at truly what's probably a far higher cost.

Mr. Speaker, at this time may I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement? Thank you.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

The Member is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Are there any nays? There are no nays. You may conclude your statement, Mr. Hawkins .

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, colleagues, and thank you, Minister Miltenberger . I can see you wanting to nay this. Mr. Speaker, the truth is, we have to start honing up to our responsibility. The concern is out there; we have no

options. I expect nothing less than swift action from this Minister of Health and Social Services , because the continued survival of YACCS and other NGOs just like them are the backbone of our social infrastructure.

Mr. Speaker, in closing here, this is something that has been a serious concern of mine, but I have to tell you it's been a serious concern of those directly affected for much, much longer. When I say directly offended I mean to say the residents who deserve to have the best quality of service provided to them and those professionals certainly who are being undervalued by this government and they should be paid what they fairly deserve.

So this government needs to show that these services are valued and needed, they need to be able to count on them, they do not need lip service, they do not need to be told how heroic they are, they do not need to know anything other than a pat on the back, because these people do these jobs because they care about them. We need the commitment from this government...

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Could you wrap up your statement, Mr. Hawkins ?

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Speaker, we need long-term security because these organizations benefit all our people of the Northwest Territories. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . Returns to oral questions. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member from Great Slave , Mr. Braden .

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Bill Braden

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The AFS International Exchange Student Program involving some 52 countries has been active in Yellowknife since 1982. Students come here for a 10-month visit. It has a major impact in their lives and in the lives of the volunteer families who host them. Mr. Speaker, I and my family are proud to be involved with this program and pleased to welcome to Yellowknife four students who have been here since last August. Three of them are in my riding of Great Slave. Mr. Speaker, it gives me great pleasure to welcome to the House Ms. Michaela Klein of Austria, hosted by the David Livingstone and Lynn Hjartarson family.

---Applause

Joakim Todnum is from Norway and he is hosted by the Greg and Mary Ann Miller family.

---Applause

Maria Capillano is from Argentina, hosted by the Wes and Sylvia Siemens family.

---Applause

Welcome to the Assembly. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Braden . Recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Premier , Mr. Handley .

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Joe Handley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd also like to recognize two constituents, James and Sheila Anderson from Weledeh, who are hosting...

---Applause

one of the AFS exchange students, Ms. Phee Sunantarod. Thank you.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley . Recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member from Range Lake , Ms. Lee .

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It's wonderful to see a gallery almost full today and I am sure they will all be recognized in due course, but I just want to say a special congratulations to the grads of community health representatives work.

---Applause

I admire and congratulate all women, but I just want to read a note that was sent to me by a husband of one of the graduates who asked me to read this, but I didn't get to read it in time and I just want to say it's for Anita Pokiak from Ernest Pokiak. "Tell her I love her and she's a wonderful wife and the greatest cook. Even when she's away there's always prepared food to eat. It's a wonder I don't get too fat. She's a kind-hearted person and a great asset to the people of Tuktoyaktuk. She will make a great advisor to any organization head. Ilanilu, quyanainni. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Laughter

---Applause

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee . Recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member from Frame Lake , Mr. Dent .

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

---Applause

The Canadian scientist team is lead by Mr. Doug Ashford, who is from Schlumberger, the project manager responsible for the integrated project management services.

---Applause

The team leader from NRCAN is Sandy Colvine who is the acting director general of the Geological Survey of Canada, and from the Aurora Research Institute their team is lead by Mr. Andrew Applejohn who is the director.

---Applause

Mr. Speaker, I'd also like to recognize Mr. Maurice Evans, who is the president of Aurora College.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent . Recognition of visitors in the gallery, the honourable Member from the Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I also want to recognize these amazing CHRs that were just honoured today this afternoon. I would like to give special recognition to an amazing woman from Deline. I think Sandy already read out the good things that the woman can do, so I want to recognize Ms. Betty Tsetso who has graduated from Deline.

---Applause

Also to support Betty in her achievement and the backbone of the family I think is her husband Joe Tsetso. Joe is up there.

---Applause

Their son is also there and Laura's sister, all from Deline. Thank you.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . Recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Thebacha , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, community health representatives provide very critical services to help prevent illness and promote good health. We have with us today seven community health representatives that just finished a 10-course, 30-credit university level certificate program in the area of community health representative work. They have graduated with the highest marks ever recorded in this Keyano College program.

---Applause

We have a very good cross-section from across the Northwest Territories. We have Alice Kimiksana from the Beaufort-Delta Health and Social Services Authority.

---Applause

Anita Pokiak, as well from the Beaufort-Delta.

---Applause

Ann Pischinger, from Fort Smith.

---Applause

Betty Tsetso, from the Sahtu Health and Social Services Authority.

---Applause

Monique Laing, from the Tlicho Community Services Agency.

---Applause

Virginia Sabourin, from the Deh Cho Health and Social Services Authority...

---Applause

...and Winnie Greenland, from the Beaufort-Delta Health and Social Services Authority.

---Applause

Mr. Speaker, I would also like to recognize Cathy Davis-Herbert, the dean of Keyano College.

---Applause

Vicki Jacobs, the instructor for this course.

---Applause

Last, but not least, two constituents, Diana Korol, and Maurice Evans. Thank you.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . Recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I, too, would like to recognize Miss Virginia Sabourin, the CHR for the Nahendeh region in Fort Simpson.

---Applause

I believe with her is her daughter, Joselyn Kierstad, who is a graduate this year, and as well as her sister, Miss Judy Sabourin.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . Recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Krutko .

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it gives me great pleasure to recognize constituents of mine, Winnie Greenland from Fort McPherson, who is the CHR based out of Fort McPherson. I would like to congratulate her on her success in achieving her credits for today. But more importantly, I would like to recognize her daughter, who is also accommodating her, Joyce. Along with her is her mother, Mary Effie Snowshoe. Welcome to the House

---Applause

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko . Recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Nunakput , Mr. Pokiak .

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Calvin Pokiak

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to recognize my sister-in-law, Anita Pokiak from Tuktoyaktuk in the gallery.

---Applause

Also, Alice Kimiksana from Ulukhaktok.

---Applause

I am proud to say that I was happy to attend the graduation this afternoon in the Great Hall. Also, I think

they are up in the gallery. If they are up there, I would like to recognize Violet Ann Leila, and husband, Blake Noksana.

---Applause

Also, I would like to recognize Jason and Sheila Anderson, former friends of mine. They are still friends of mine. Thank you.

---Applause

---Laughter

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Pokiak . Recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Monfwi, Mr. Lafferty .

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Jackson Lafferty

North Slave

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I, too, would like to recognize one of the CHO grads, Monique Laing, from Behchoko.

---Applause

Along with her, her children and husband. Mahsi.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Recognition of visitors in the gallery. If we have missed anyone in the gallery today, welcome to the House. I hope you are enjoying the proceedings. It is always nice to have an audience.

---Applause

Oral questions. The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in my Member's statement today, I talked about this government's role, how it is particularly significant right now with the increased potential of resource development in relation to small business. Mr. Speaker, we have gone through some processes here. We have divided RWED. We have Industry, Tourism and Investment. We have consolidated the BDIC, the Business Development Investment Corporation. We have undertaken all these various exercises at some degree of energy and expense.

I was wondering if the Minister today could articulate for us how those changes have translated into increased, better and effective support for small business. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . The honourable Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment , Mr. Bell .

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Brendan Bell

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As the Member has mentioned, one of the first tasks for us after the division of the department was to work with the newly created Business Development Investment Corporation. Essentially, that pulled together the various arms of our government that had been lending money, providing business programming, whether it was, at the time, RWED proper or BCC or the Development Corporation. We pulled them together under one roof and created what we feel is enabling legislation that allows for more flexibility and lending.

It will allow us to be better able to partner with other organizations like Aboriginal Business Canada. It was a problem in past partnering and levering additional funds from the federal government. It was difficult under the past legislation. So we set up this legislative framework.

The next step was to do an evaluation of our programs that we were currently delivering to understand if they were working well. If they weren't working, to talk about the kinds of improvements that we could make. That business program review has taken about just short of a year. We are now at the stage where the review will come back to me and I will get a chance to look at that. I will be in front of committee in the September business planning process to talk about improvements and to talk about some of the things we are proposing to do to ensure that we do make a difference and make sure our programs are relevant, accessible and more comprehensive. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bell . Supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We will certainly look forward to hearing of the results of that business program review. Mr. Speaker, time is of the essence. There are opportunities that are going to become apparent and are emerging right now in the North. There is a time frame. There is a window on some of these opportunities. The time is of the essence. I want to stress that to the Minister. Is there anything else that the Minister sees his department being able to do through any of these organizations that could assist small business?

I understand that there is a cap on how much money small businesses can borrow, but there are other investors out there. At the Meet the North conference, we met investors from foreign countries actually looking to invest in the North. There are lending institutions out there. Interest rates are still low. What else can this government do to try and facilitate matching opportunities to needs here in the North? Thank you.

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Brendan Bell

Yellowknife South

There certainly are a number of things. I would like to talk to committee about them. Just off the top of my head, I think, obviously, capital is always scarce. I think, in past, we've had a difficulty in freeing up some of that capital. Oftentimes, when you have the government bank have successful loans that are working well, they are reluctant to move them off to the chartered banks. But I think that we should be looking to take our successful loans and make sure the chartered banks get involved where possible so that we can free up more capital to then go out to other potential lenders.

I think we also need to have a discussion around our grant programs. They have essentially been decimated from

somewhere in the neighbourhood of $10 million in the '90s to about $1.5 million a year. I think there is still a place for grants, but it probably isn't in the larger centres. I think there is some merit in having the grants be targeted in our smallest communities and try to ensure that our loan programs are more effective in the larger centres. I think, for the bigger loans, many of the market-driven opportunities are going to be in our biggest communities. We need to make sure that we have capital that is freed up. There are a number of things that I would like to talk about.

We will have to have this discussion around the cap of $2 million in programming for any individual. I look forward to that discussion as well. I think there are a number of things we will talk about in September. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bell . Supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am very pleased to hear that the Minister recognizes that there is still a place for grants to businesses for start-up costs and things like that. I certainly think when you look at Hay River, you see many success stories that you can point to, businesses now that are manufacturing things, that are employing northerners, that are putting out quality products and are, in fact, shipping northern products to the South and bringing that money back into the Northwest Territories.

Part of that grant money used to come from the federal government in the form of the Economic Development Agreement. It was a matched funding program between the federal and territorial government where you could also access or stack it with grant programs that were available. What is the status of any discussions with the federal government about a new Economic Development Agreement? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Brendan Bell

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I met with Jim Prentice -- it must be about a month ago now -- to discuss this specific issue, the need for a long-term, permanent EDA, Economic Development Agreement, in the Northwest Territories. I made him very much aware that we would have preferred the SINED funds be handled by either the territorial government or northern interests and see the decisions made here at home, but we had accepted that the existing SINED funds were going to be rolled out, DIAND making the decisions.

As long as there was some consideration of our priorities, we could live with that for the existing three years of this program. But post this SINED program, we were insistent that we need to see an Economic Development Agreement like FedNor or like western economic diversification that the other provinces and other regions have. That is something that we will continue to discuss. He knows the ask. I am hopeful that he will be responsive. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bell . Final supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the Minister this final question then. If his department has given any consideration to hosting some type of venue where businesses that are interested in starting up or expanding what they are already doing, finding out where they can get support services for their company, additional capital, things like that, has the Minister's department considered hosting or facilitating any such a gathering here in the North, given the timing and the imminent development that lies ahead? Thank you.

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Brendan Bell

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There are a number of regional economic development conferences that have either been hosted or are in the planning stages and not necessarily headed up by our department, but our department has participated in and will continue to participate in these. It is something that I am certainly prepared to discuss. I think, as this business program review comes forward and we talk about improvements, there is some merit to pulling business interests and stakeholders together to discuss what we are thinking needs to be done.

So that is something that we can certainly consider, but we will also, and I would urge Members that if there are regional efforts that are coming together, if there are participants coming forward with suggestions or ideas, bring them forward to me. We are certainly prepared to discuss them and consider them. I think it does make a lot of sense to bring the various different stakeholders together. As the Member indicates, for some of these resource development projects, time is of the essence and there is some urgency here. We need to make sure we are supportive. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bell . Oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In my Member's statement today, I talked about the government's obvious undervalue of service agencies by not allowing these organizations like YACCS to pay their employees fair marketing competitive market wages, Mr. Speaker. My questions are directed to the Minister of Health and Social Services . What is the Minister prepared to do to assist YACCS and other organizations like them to ensure that they are able to offer competitive and attractive salaries and compensation packages to hire and keep trained staff in order to continue the high quality of essential services they offer to our community and to our people? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . The honourable Minister of Health and Social Services , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we place a very high value on the work that non-government organizations do. As a government, we have done a lot of work, along with the Member's opposite, on boards and agencies to try to look at how we rationalize that whole area of service. As well, we have developed a third-party accountability framework which is now in place that we are working on and using as a government. As we look at dealing with some of these issues, we have moved into multi-year funding contracts. When it comes to YACCS, we are working with them on a number of their issues including their issues that arise periodically with collective bargaining. Thank you.

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. While I heard a great response there, we put a high value on the work that they do, we rationalize it and support them, and we are working with them. So I guess my question now to the Minister is, how are we going to rationalize, support and respect the high value of service that they offer when there is a $500,000 plus wage parity gap between what their employees as a collective receive and what they should be paid in fair market value throughout other government agencies? How is the Minister going to address this gap? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we have been in correspondence with and in contact with YACCS. They have indicated to us their need for additional funding. We are in the middle of the business planning process and coming forward in government and as a department with a number of forced growth items dealing with NGOs. That whole area is one of the areas that we are looking at. Thank you.

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Robert Hawkins

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am glad to hear that the Minister is talking to YACCS through correspondence, as he pointed out. I am glad he mentioned business plans are coming forward to address forced growth problems. So going back to the $500,000 gap, Mr. Speaker, and the Minister is well versed in this so we don't have to go into too much detail, can the Minister lay out some of the plans to meet wage parity in this upcoming business plan? What is the mandate he is giving his department to address this problem? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I have just indicated, the issue of forced growth, NGOs, how they are funded, how do we build in the ability to recognize cost of living and other forced growth factors has been laid out in broad form to the third-party accountability. People from YACCS have written to myself. I have replied to them. We have a business plan process underway. We are including their requests along with a whole other range of NGOs that we deal with as part of our business planning submission. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . Your final supplementary, Mr. Hawkins .

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I think that was one of the best answers I have heard from this Minister in my three years of the Assembly. He is talking about bridging the gap, addressing forced growth problems, cost of living and including the requests. So I guess, all of that said, everything I needed to hear about what it was we are bridging the gap on. So the bottom line is, will wage parity be addressed in this business plan? I can guarantee you, there aren't many people who are against this problem. Will he address it?

Will he tell this House today that he is going to ensure that YACCS is valued, as well as other service agencies, by delivering on that commitment of including forced growth, cost of living and including that request in this upcoming business plan? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to think that every answer I give is one of my best answers.

---Laughter

I think that is truly documented in Hansard. Mr. Speaker, I have indicated the process that we are engaged in as a government with YACCS, NGOs, the business plan process, and that is the process that we are going to continue to follow to its logical conclusion, along with the Member's input. Thank you.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . Oral questions. The honourable Member for Kam Lake , Mr. Ramsay .

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Question 63-15(5): Inequities In Day Care Support

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my questions today are for the honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Dent . Back in February, I brought up the issue of the inequities that exist between day cares that are operating out of government-owned facilities and those who have to pay their own way. In terms of operating costs, it is an $80,000 to $90,000 per year advantage. I would like to ask the Minister today what exactly that he and his department have done since February when this issue was brought up to address the

inequities? What have they done to address the issue? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Dent .

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When this issue was first raised and the government was challenged to do a review of all charity leases, that was undertaken by Public Works. The information was brought to Cabinet. At that point, Cabinet decided that we should have a look and have a consistent approach across government for our charity leases. That work is underway and is expected to be completed later this summer. It will be considered at that point by Cabinet, so it is not one department doing one thing and another department doing another. We intend to look and see if there is a consistent approach that all departments can take.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent . Supplementary, Mr. Ramsay .

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, that was four months ago. By the sounds of the Minister's response, it is going to be another three or four months until they get some kind of determination on charity leases and what a level playing field might look like. Mr. Speaker, the inaction of the government to level the playing field may indeed cause the closing of more day cares here in Yellowknife. I know the Minister was listening when I spoke of the hundred or so children that are on waitlists currently in Yellowknife awaiting space in day cares.

I would like to ask the Minister this: Aside from writing a letter to the honourable Diane Finley with his counterparts in Nunavut and the Yukon, what are his plans for getting more day care spaces in Yellowknife? Exactly what are the plans in that area? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We are hoping, through the business planning process, to be able to build on the federal government's addition of $100 monthly to all parents with children under the age of six by increasing the user subsidies in the next business planning process. That should then allow day cares to increase their charges to parents. That should help to alleviate the problems that day cares may face with funding. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you, Mr. Dent . Supplementary, Mr. Ramsay .

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to ask the Minister, is there any additional federal dollars that will be coming to the Northwest Territories in the immediate future to address day care issues? Thank you.

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There will be a number of federal dollars coming starting July 1st. Families with children under six will start to receive $100 a month for each child. So, arguably, that is federal money that is coming to the North. That money could easily be used by parents to help resolve financial issues at their day cares. I would expect that day cares would increase their rates to take advantage of the fact that that money is now available to parents.

As I said, through the business planning process we're hoping to be able to increase user subsidies and provide additional funding that way to parents who are looking for day cares, and then that should, again, provide for opportunities for day cares to find money through user fees.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent . Your final supplementary, Mr. Ramsay .

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to ask the Minister, are there any federal dollars, substantial federal dollars -- and I'm talking in the hundreds of thousands of dollars -- that are going to be coming to this government in the near future? I'm not talking about the $100 a month to help families offset day care costs; I'm talking about contributions from the federal government, former commitments or new commitments, whatever the case may be. Is there new money coming? Thank you.

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In one of the supplementary bills that will be shortly before this House there will be some money from the previous commitments made by the former government. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent . Oral questions. The honourable Member for Nahendeh , or, from Monfwi, Mr. Lafferty .

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Jackson Lafferty

North Slave

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this spring Andrea Tsetta participated in the Youth Parliament and did a very good job representing Monfwi, I must say. Her statement was on a community break in Behchoko and her plea for bylaw officers to be established in the community. So, Mr. Speaker, I have some questions for the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs regarding the need for bylaw officers in my communities.

Mr. Speaker, a lot of communities have complained that they are not being given enough funding to take care of everything that they are responsible for. How is the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs working with

communities to make sure they are able to protect themselves and their property? Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . The honourable Minister responsible for Municipal and Community Affairs , Mr. McLeod.

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I believe we have seven bylaw officers in the various communities across the Northwest Territories. We just did an evaluation on the situation, whether they have been making a difference or are they being effective in terms of community protection, and most of the communities have responded very favourably. We are at the same time, through our New Deal initiative, doing an evaluation of our O and M money, the operations and maintenance money that's provided to the communities for community governance.

We're also reviewing the water and sewer subsidy, along with the new formula that will be incorporated into the community allocation for community capital and also the gas tax. There are a number of initiatives that are currently being evaluated and we are looking at all the different responsibilities that are factored into the formula for community governance. That includes security and safety that bylaw officers would fall under. So that review will be taking place. We should have some firm answers by the fall. Thank you.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Supplementary, Mr. Lafferty .

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Jackson Lafferty

North Slave

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. The bylaw officers in the communities are 19 bylaw officers. Mr. Speaker, when the Minister was a Regular Member sitting on our side in 2001, he was concerned about the same issue that I'm raising here today, Mr. Speaker. He encouraged the Department of MACA and Justice to work together to help communities with community enforcement. So I would like to ask the Minister if such initiatives exist today and what is the department doing with community governments to identify the community bylaw enforcement that's needed in the communities? Mahsi.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Mr. McLeod.

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Member is asking a question that I raised a number of years ago. Mr. Speaker, we are reviewing how the communities are funded. The operations and maintenance for community governance is something that we are reviewing right now that allows communities to hire bylaw officers. I will have to confirm the number of bylaw officers we have out there. However, we are checking to see if this money is currently adequate for the communities and that's something we won't have answers on until sometime this fall, as I've indicated.

I'm not able to confirm that any new monies will be coming to the communities at this point that will allow them to set their own priorities and if bylaw officers happen to be something that communities want to hire, that would be up to them. We do not have a program for bylaw officers right now. Thank you.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Supplementary, Mr. Lafferty .

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Jackson Lafferty

North Slave

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'm glad to hear that MACA, Municipal and Community Affairs, is reviewing the issue of safety and securit