Debates of Oct. 7th, 2003

This is page numbers 1255 - 1298 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 6th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

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Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

Federal Government Announces Training Dollars

National Foster Family Week

NWT Search And Rescue Prevention Strategy

New Broadband Funding Announcement: National Satellite Initiative

NWT Fire Service Merit Awards Program

Chief Sunrise Education Centre Funding

Rise In Crime Rates In Hay River

Funding Allocations For Schools

Giant Mine Remediation Project

Impacts Of Self-government On Roles Of Existing Boards And Authorities

Land Development In Hay River

Adequacy And Consistency In Health Services Delivery

Support For Sport And Recreation Facilities In Yellowknife

Promoting NWT Tourism

Recognition Of Constituents In Inuvik Twin Lakes

NWT Arts Strategy

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Reorganization Of The Inuvik Regional Health And Social Services Authority

Renovation Funding To The Chief Sunrise School

Giant Mine Remediation Project

Development Of Commissioner's Land In Hay River

Certification Of The Addictions Counselling Profession

Negotiating Funding With Local School Authorities

NWT Sport, Recreation And Physical Activity System

Creation Of Sahtu Health Board

Status Of The NWT Arts Strategy

Approval For The Establishment Of The Sahtu Health Board

Approval For The Establishment Of The Sahtu Health Board

Standardizing Health Services Across Communities

Written Question 13-14(6): Aklavik Mental Health And Addictions Workers And Programming

Committee Report 19-14(6): Report On The Review Of Bill 22: Waste Reduction And Recovery Act And Bill 25: Municipal Statutes Replacement Act

Motion To Receive Committee Report 19-14(6) And Move Into Committee Of The Whole

Bill 34: Tlicho Land Claims And Self-government Agreement Act

Tabled Document 101-14(6): Letter From NWT Biathlon Association In Opposition To The Proposed Recreation And Sport Council

Tabled Document 102-14(6): Business Credit Corporation, 2003 Annual Report

Censure Of The Minister Of Health And Social Services

To Develop Strategies For Diversified Diamond Processing

Bill 32: Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 2, 2003-2004

Bill 32: Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 2, 2003-2004

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Bill 21: Protection Against Family Violence Act

Bill 33: Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 4, 2002-2003

Bill 32: Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 2, 2003-2004

Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Bill 26: Youth Justice Act

Item 22: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Honourable Roger Allen , Honourable Jim Antoine , Mr. Bell , Mr. Braden , Mr. Delorey , Mr. Dent , Mrs. Groenewegen , Honourable Joe Handley , Honourable Stephen Kakfwi , Mr. Krutko , Mr. Lafferty , Ms. Lee , Mr. McLeod , Honourable Michael Miltenberger , Mr. Nitah , Honourable Jake Ootes , Mr. Roland , Honourable Vince Steen , Honourable Tony Whitford

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

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The Deputy Speaker

David Krutko

Item 2, Ministers' statements. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Ootes .

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Minister's Statement 96-14(6): Federal Government Announces Training Dollars

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Speaker, on October 3rd, the Honourable Jane Stewart announced, in conjunction with the Honourable Ethel Blondin-Andrew, a new aboriginal skills and employment partnership program.

This $85 million, five-year program is aimed at securing and increasing sustainable aboriginal participation in large economic developments across Canada. These training programs can range from basic literacy skills and academic upgrading, to job specific programming.

Funding proposals must set out a comprehensive training-to-employment plan for aboriginal people that links skill development to specific job opportunities.

This is welcome news for aboriginal people in the Northwest Territories, Mr. Speaker. As you are well aware, residents in the North need to move beyond the entry-level positions. I know that programs such as this one will assist us in making this move. By assisting aboriginal people to receive the training and skills they require, we know we are setting the stage for a better future for all Northerners.

The NWT economy, fuelled by extraordinary levels of mining and oil and gas activity, offers a remarkable number of opportunities for well-trained, skilled people. So many opportunities are available that, at the current time, we are experiencing difficulty meeting labour demand. We need to ensure that our northern population is trained and ready to meet this demand.

Mr. Speaker, while this program is national in scope, I am confident that a great deal of the impetus for it came from several years of intense effort by our government, in cooperation with our partners, to have federal dollars invested in the North for resource development.

This government has, over the past two years, been working on the development of two specific strategies. Mr. Speaker, the NWT industrial mining skills strategy and the oil and gas industrial skills strategy are expected to total approximately $20 million in new funding. Although the federal government has seen previous copies of these proposals, they must be resubmitted to meet the new guidelines. We will continue to work in conjunction with our partners -- industry, federal

government, aboriginal organizations and the Aboriginal Summit -- while finalizing these documents.

This new funding announcement speaks directly to these types of proposals, Mr. Speaker, and will complement the ongoing industry, GNWT and aboriginal investments currently taking place.

While the total amount of $85 million is allocated across Canada, we are confident that, given the level of activity and the excellent work done to date, a large portion of these dollars will be invested here in the NWT.

Mr. Speaker, I congratulate the Minister of Human Resources Development Canada and our MP, Ethel Blondin-Andrew, for the support they are demonstrating in our ongoing effort to ensure that the northern economy maximizes northern employment, one of the primary goals of our government.

As well, I also compliment and congratulate industry, aboriginal partners and the Aboriginal Summit for coming together and working collaboratively to ensure we are ready to now take advantage of this opportunity.

Mr. Speaker, while there remain a number of administrative details to iron out, it is important that we continue to work cooperatively with our partners and keep in mind the main goal of increasing employment for aboriginal Northerners. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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Minister's Statement 96-14(6): Federal Government Announces Training Dollars

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Deputy Speaker

David Krutko

Thank you, Minister Ootes . Item 2, Ministers' statements. The honourable Member for Thebacha , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Minister's Statement 97-14(6): National Foster Family Week

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the week of October 19th to 25th is National Foster Family Week. I would like to take a moment to look ahead to that week to recognize the valuable contribution that foster families make to our communities.

Foster families open their homes to care for children in need. They have a very challenging and demanding role. It is encouraging to see that so many people in our territory have offered to care for children. There are almost 200 foster homes in the NWT that give children a caring, supportive home environment that is vital to their healthy development.

Foster parents share a common passion to protect and nurture children. They offer children a safe home environment while also supporting their interaction with their birth families. They work as members of a team with the social workers in their communities to meet individual educational, medical and developmental needs.

Mr. Speaker, the children in foster care range in age from infants to teenagers. They include children from every part of our territory. Our foster families have welcomed these children into their homes, and should be applauded for the work they do.

Mr. Speaker, I would also like to recognize the Foster Family Coalition of the NWT. This organization has been in place for over a year to strengthen the network of foster families and the services they provide. It is an important resource for foster parents, to help them understand that they are not alone and that there are others who can support them through difficult times.

I would like to take this opportunity to call on families to become foster families, and I ask the Members of this House to join me in applauding the efforts of those who have taken up this service throughout the NWT. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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Minister's Statement 97-14(6): National Foster Family Week

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Deputy Speaker

David Krutko

Thank you, Minister Miltenberger . Item 2, Ministers' statements. The honourable Member for Nunakput , Mr. Steen .

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Minister's Statement 98-14(6): NWT Search And Rescue Prevention Strategy

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Vince Steen

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I would like to take this opportunity to inform Members of this Assembly about the Northwest Territories' search and rescue prevention strategy.

The strategy was developed by the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs through a two-year consultation process involving community leaders, territorial search and rescue authorities and search and rescue organizations in each of the Northwest Territories' five regions.

This work was supported by the federal government through the new initiatives fund, a national cost-sharing program for search and rescue.

The Northwest Territories search and rescue prevention strategy is based upon a framework developed at the national level. This framework came about because the various federal agencies with responsibilities in the area of search and rescue saw the need to address prevention. They understood that, while it is important to develop a capacity to respond to search and rescue incidents, it is also important to try and prevent such situations from happening.

The Northwest Territories search and rescue prevention strategy is the most appropriate means of reducing the North's high number of reports of missing or stranded persons not only because of the focus on prevention, but also because it is the result of extensive community consultations. The strategy includes a consolidation of approximately 150 recommendations from these consultations.

This consultation process ensured that the final strategy is a made-in-the-North plan based upon the realities of northern conditions. It also ensured that the strategy contains realistic, useful recommendations for reducing the number and severity of search and rescue incidents in the Northwest Territories.

Northwest Territories search and rescue authorities will need to work with communities and all northern stakeholders to effectively implement the recommendations from this strategy. The Department of Municipal and Community Affairs looks forward to working with all interested parties to make this happen. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 98-14(6): NWT Search And Rescue Prevention Strategy

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Deputy Speaker

David Krutko

Thank you, Minister Steen . Item 2, Ministers' statements. The honourable Member for Weledeh , Mr. Handley .

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Minister's Statement 99-14(6): New Broadband Funding Announcement: National Satellite Initiative

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Joe Handley

Weledeh

I believe our ongoing work in educating Ottawa about the challenges we face and the missed opportunities resulting from lack of affordable, high-speed service in all communities is helping to spur development of federal programs to address our needs in this area.

Mr. Speaker, although we do not have any specific details of this program, we are pleased to see that it could address both infrastructure and satellite capacity. We in the Northwest Territories know that it is not always possible to take advantage of new opportunity if infrastructure is limited and it is difficult to move forward if the costs are excessive.

We will be encouraging the federal government to provide us with program details as soon as possible. We expect the Northwest Territories groups participating in the broadband for rural and northern development, or BRAND, program will be equally interested in this new program as it is intended to complement the $105 million announced earlier for BRAND.

Mr. Speaker, investments in community infrastructure are needed in the Northwest Territories. We look forward to hearing more about the opportunities the national satellite initiative offers for the NWT. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 99-14(6): New Broadband Funding Announcement: National Satellite Initiative

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The Deputy Speaker

David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Handley . Item 2, Ministers' statements. The honourable Member for Nunakput , Mr. Steen .

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Minister's Statement 100-14(6): NWT Fire Service Merit Awards Program

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Vince Steen

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, October 5 to 11, 2003, is National Fire Prevention Week, so this is a fitting time to announce the recipients of this year's Northwest Territories Fire Service Merit Awards program.

In 2002, I established the Fire Service Merit Awards, a new program to recognize the contribution of individual firefighters and fire departments in the Northwest Territories.

A special inaugural ceremony was held to announce the 2002 winners during Fire Prevention Week. Members of the Legislative Assembly were invited to attend this ceremony at the Prince of Wales Northern Heritage Centre to help recognize these special contributors to the fire service.

In this second year of the program, the department once again received nominations to recognize the special contribution of individual firefighters. Individual nominations are assessed by a panel of local and territorial fire service officials, against a set of established criteria. These nominations have now been assessed and I am pleased to announce the 2003 winners at this time.

The individual Fire Service Merit Award recipients for 2003 are:

• Al Kuyten of the Norman Wells Fire Department

• Robert Ansdell of the Tsiigehtchic Fire Department

Mr. Ansdell has also been chosen as the recipient of the 2003 Territorial Fire Service Merit Award.

The department also received nominations for the Community Fire Service Merit Award. This award is presented to recognize the efforts of the fire department and the entire community in improving the local fire protection system.

The assessment process to determine the community merit award winner has now been completed and I am pleased to announce that the 2003 Community Fire Service Merit Award goes to the City of Yellowknife Fire Division.

Mr. Speaker, ceremonies to recognize the winners will be held in their home communities in the near future. I would ask all Members of the Legislative Assembly to please join me in congratulating the two recipients of the individual awards and the City of Yellowknife Fire Division. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Deputy Speaker

David Krutko

Colleagues, I would like to draw your attention to the presence in the visitors' gallery of Cathy Bentley of the Department of Executive, intergovernmental relations, and with her is Frank Stendardo with the Privy Council in Ottawa's office. Welcome to the House.

---Applause

Item 2, Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Deh Cho , Mr. McLeod .

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Chief Sunrise Education Centre Funding

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Chief Sunrise Education Centre on Hay River Reserve has been experiencing a shortage of classroom space for many years now and this year is scheduled to receive some long overdue renovations spread out over the next couple of years. The Department of Education, Culture and Employment has provided $600,000 for the project and the K'atlodeeche First Nation has committed another $200,000 to ensure that the renovations meet the immediate needs of the community.

Mr. Speaker, I have problems with this arrangement on a couple of different levels. Number one, I do not believe a first nation should be required to contribute funds to pay for the construction or renovation of an educational facility. Education is a right guaranteed under the treaty. It logically follows that adequate schools are an obligation that falls out of the treaty as a right. So why is the K'atlodeeche First Nation having to come up with $200,000 of their own money? They're taking money out of businesses in the community and that is critical.

They're doing it because they see a need in the community and I applaud the leadership of the Hay River Reserve for taking this step and thinking about the future generations, but must question whether the department has the same commitment to the children and whether they respect or understand treaty obligations.

The other problem I have with this arrangement is the criteria that the Department of Education, Culture and Employment uses to determine whether a school is overcrowded or not and whether it requires expansion. According to this formula, the department classifies Chief Sunrise Education Centre as underutilized. This is despite such obvious signs of overcrowding as classes being taught in non-program spaces such as the library, the kitchen, the industrial arts room, the staff room and the gym foyer. I'm aware that the language instructor moves her supplies from classroom to classroom in a shopping cart, like a sort of door-to-door salesman.

Mr. Speaker, right now we have no room in that school for the three cultural instructors who deliver the on the land program, language program and arts and crafts program to the students. I'm aware that there's 34 students aged four years old who are enrolled in the Aboriginal Head Start program and this program is...Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

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The Deputy Speaker

David Krutko

The Member is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Are there any nays? Mr. McLeod , you have unanimous consent to conclude your statement.

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, colleagues. Mr. Speaker, I'm aware that there are 34 students three to four years old who are enrolled in the Aboriginal Head Start program. This program has proven to increase dramatically the chances of aboriginal students doing well in school. I'm also aware that the centre is offering classes in the evenings and weekends to accommodate those part-time students who cannot access programs during the day because of the overcrowding.

It is simple, Mr. Speaker. The department's criteria for program space does not meet the needs of smaller communities. It might work in Yellowknife, but it does not work for the residents of the Hay River Reserve.

Finally, Mr. Speaker, I would like to point out that other communities, such as the Yellowknives First Nation, have advanced funds to the department for renovations or construction of schools with the understanding that they would be reimbursed by the government in subsequent years' appropriation. Mr. Speaker, I will have questions for the Minister as to why the K'atlodeeche First Nation was not given the same consideration. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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The Deputy Speaker

David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. McLeod . Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Hay River North , Mr. Delorey .

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Rise In Crime Rates In Hay River

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Paul Delorey

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I rise to address an issue that affects the entire community of Hay River. That being, the rise in personal and property crimes in our community.

Mr. Speaker, from January to August of 2002 there were 93 crimes committed against persons and for the same period this year there were 159. The mischief calls are up from 169 occurrences last year to 245 this year. The disturbances calls are up from 30 in 2002 to 54 this year. I could go on and on with statistics, Mr. Speaker, but trust me, there is an urgent, growing problem in Hay River around the whole area of crime prevention.

Let me be perfectly clear, Mr. Speaker. Hay River is not a bad place to live. I firmly believe Hay River is the best place to live in the NWT and I have made it my home for the last 33 years. Mr. Speaker, I do, however, wish to illustrate that the residents of Hay River are concerned and they are more than willing to be proactive in order to insure the safety and security of our community.

Mr. Speaker, on September 15th there was a community hall meeting held in Hay River to discuss crime prevention and enforcement and, above all, to raise awareness. I was encouraged to see a full house at this meeting, Mr. Speaker. The 75 people in attendance were very vocal about the rising incidents of crime in Hay River.

Mr. Speaker, I fully support and commend the RCMP detachment in Hay River for the work that they do 24 hours a day, 365 days of the year to protect the residents of Hay River. The RCMP officers are doing everything they can with the limited resources they are provided with.

Mr. Speaker, we currently have eight RCMP members stationed in Hay River. At one point several years ago, I believe we had approximately 18 members in Hay River. I don't know what changed, but I don't believe the demographics or level of crime activity did.

Mr. Speaker, along with the advent of development comes some stark realities, one being the rise in social problems - alcohol and drug abuse chief among these. Mr. Speaker, as a result of the town hall meeting I am very encouraged that the idea for a citizen's coalition has come about. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

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David Krutko

The Member is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Are there any nays? Mr. Delorey , you have unanimous consent to conclude your statement.

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Rise In Crime Rates In Hay River

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Paul Delorey

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, colleagues. This citizen's coalition will be spear-headed by Town Councillor Robert Bouchard, a constituent of mine. The coalition intends to work hand in hand with the RCMP to combat crime in Hay River. Mr. Speaker, I am extremely proud of the efforts of the residents of Hay River in working together to prevent crime and I look forward to working with them to achieve this goal. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe , Mr. Nitah .

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Funding Allocations For Schools

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Steven Nitah

Tu Nedhe

Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, on Friday of last week I went to Deninu School to celebrate the graduation of Ms. Amy Mersch. Amy Mersch was the only graduate for the Class of 2003. I met with the local education authority afterwards, along with the deputy minister of Education, Culture and Employment, where we discussed formula financing that supports grade extension. The local authority and I feel strongly that we have to revisit the formula financing agreements with the local education authority to realize more graduates coming out of our schools.

Every year, the formula financing agreement is visited with each school, but if it's not negotiated then the true cost of running a school will never be identified and more graduates coming out of the schools will never be realized.

I'll be asking the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment if the department is willing to enter into negotiations with local education authorities of all schools in the Northwest Territories to determine what it really costs to run the schools instead of the local education authority continually fighting for dollars to run the programs and services. Especially in those schools that should be accepting grade extensions.

Since Fort Resolution accepted the grade extensions in the schools, we've been seeing more graduates coming out of that school, but the community and the local education authority leaders feel that without more resources and targeted programs and services that these programs could be a lot more successful and we'll see a lot more educated people coming out of the Northwest Territories. I totally agree with that, Mr. Speaker.

I'll be having questions for the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment at the appropriate time. Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker.

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The Deputy Speaker

David Krutko

Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Frame Lake , Mr. Dent .

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Giant Mine Remediation Project

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the recent announcement about the closure of underground operations at Con Mine reminds us of the need to clean up the lands around mining operations when they close. With the closure of Con we are fortunate to be dealing with a company that is not bankrupt and has the opportunity to do the right thing for the environment on the closure of the mine. I expect the cleanup will be undertaken responsibly and move forward at a reasonable pace.

Unfortunately, Mr. Speaker, the environmental cleanup of Giant appears likely to hang over our heads for years to come.

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

While the Giant cleanup is a federal government responsibility, our government needs to get more actively involved in pressuring the federal government to move quickly. This government should have already pressed the federal government to get started on the cleanup.

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

The failure to do that is made worse because we had an opportunity. We had a Prime Minister and a Minister of DIAND who appeared willing to work with us. There is a three-year program with millions of dollars available specifically for the cleanup of environmental disasters like Giant. But with the federal leadership changing and program funding running out, we may be left with nothing but the arsenic for a long, long time.

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Mr. Speaker, the arsenic management alternatives for Giant that were presented by the Giant remediation team are not perfect solutions, but they offer us choices using today's best technology to ensure that the underground arsenic trioxide dust does not further contaminate our environment.

Mr. Speaker, all of the Yellowknife MLAs have been very concerned about the issue of the arsenic at Giant for a long time. Four of us have been lobbying the Minister of Northern Affairs to start the work. But the GNWT has been dragging its feet and are responsible for slowing the cleanup down.

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Mr. Bell , Mr. Braden , Ms. Lee and I recommended to Minister Nault that the federal government begin implementing the underground block freezing process as the best alternative we have available to us now. It is the least dangerous to workers and significantly reduces the danger of environmental contamination to our community and other communities on the Mackenzie watershed.

Mr. Speaker, after we made our presentation, the Minister of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development wrote to Minister Nault rejecting that recommendation and instead asked that more time and money be spent, believe it or not, studying another option -- deep disposal.

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Frame Lake

Mr. Speaker, the deep disposal option suggested by the Minister of RWED has already been shown to be less sound. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

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The Member is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Mr. Dent , you may conclude your statement.

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, honourable Members. Mr. Speaker, the type of rock formations deep under ground at Giant are filled with both manmade and natural holes, crevices and cracks that cannot be guaranteed to hold arsenic trioxide dust, particularly when it mixes with deep groundwater. The deep disposal option will also be much more dangerous to workers, rather than freezing it in place, as moving this stuff around is an extremely dangerous proposition.

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Mr. Speaker, I believe that by rejecting the recommendation made by the four Yellowknife MLAs the Minister and this government have delayed the cleanup of Giant Mine, a delay we can't afford.

There will soon be a change in leadership at the federal level and then a federal election. We may lose the political will that has been there to deal with some of the contaminated sites across Canada. After years of trying to educate the federal government about the situation at Giant, now it looks like the 15th Assembly will have to start a new process. Meanwhile, the people of Yellowknife, Ndilo and Dettah must wait and wonder about the safety of their environment.

Mr. Speaker, this government should re-examine its position on the arsenic remediation right away. Today, if possible. Then it should advise Minister Nault that we want to see action right away.

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Freeze the arsenic in place. Mr. Speaker, if we put pressure on we may still qualify for funding under the second year of the contaminated sites accelerated action fund, but if we don't tell Minister Nault our decision and press for funding we might really blow it and miss out on the fund all together. That could delay remediation for at least a few more years. Mr. Speaker, we need this action and we need it now.

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Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake , Mr. Roland .

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Impacts Of Self-government On Roles Of Existing Boards And Authorities

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Floyd Roland

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my Member's statement will be around the government's plans and intentions as our government decides to change its practice or include other things or expand its authority in different areas. Mr. Speaker, we've heard in this House on a number of occasions throughout this term about the roles that boards and authorities play in delivering programs and services on behalf of our government. Mr. Speaker, I particularly raise questions about this area in the area of the Inuvik Regional Health and Social Services Authority and the role it plays in delivering services.

We know that, with the onset of self-government table negotiations around the North, the map that we and the departments use is going to change in the area of regional offices and department. But, Mr. Speaker, without a real plan in place, things can be done ad hoc and it's difficult to find out information from a government as to what's going on.

The point, Mr. Speaker, is that I've had to raise the issue about the development of the Sahtu Health and Social Services Authority and how it would impact on the constituents that I serve out of Inuvik. Mr. Speaker, getting responses from the Minister in this area, after I was told that I would be kept informed, I'm somewhat dismayed. I find out that much more work has been going on than I was informed of. This discovery was through a second source, in a sense, accidentally through reviewing of a financial document asking a Minister some questions and being provided some more information. So based on that, Mr.

Speaker, I have concerns again and would like to seek more information from the Minister of Health and Social Services as to what exactly is going on, what plans are in place and when were those plans approved. So I'll have a question for the appropriate Minister. Thank you.

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The Deputy Speaker

David Krutko

Item 3, Members' statements. The Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Land Development In Hay River

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the community of Hay River has almost run out of land. Hay River is currently developing its last remaining residential property. Only a few lots are left in our industrial and commercial land bank. The town owns another piece of property, but it will take at least three years to drain it to the point where it can be ready for development.

The town has approached the territorial government to transfer additional Commissioner's land. The land is needed for residential and commercial purposes. Winter is fast approaching and potential buyers could use the autumn to prepare for summer construction next year.

Mr. Speaker, this past spring, the territorial government approved Hay River's general plan, which had included a request for land to be transferred over to the town. The Deh Cho First Nations interim measures final agreement requires the government to consult with affected Deh Cho nations before selling or leasing undeveloped Commissioner's land identified in the general plan. The general plan already has the written approval of the K'atlodeeche First Nation.

The West Point First Nation has offered conditional support and approval, but one of the conditions is that they need to be funded to undertake a general plan of their own. This request doesn't fall within the mandate or jurisdiction of the Town of Hay River to address.

I was very encouraged by a recent conversation with the president of the Northwest Territories Metis Nation and an

article in the Hub, where the chief negotiator for the Metis Nation stated, "We have had no communication with MACA involving any proposals from the Town of Hay River. And if there is a dialogue and Metis interests are addressed in an equitable fashion, we're interested in moving forward if the town is interested."

Mr. Speaker, many communities in our territory are growing as a result of increased resource development. More land is needed to meet current and forecasted demands for residential and commercial properties. The Deh Cho interim measures final agreement provides a blueprint for a respectable process between First Nations, municipalities and the territorial government for the transfer of Commissioner's land, but the details of that process have to be worked out in practice.

Since at the end of the day it is the GNWT that moves ahead with the decision about whether or not to transfer the land, it needs to clearly communicate with the Town of Hay River and other municipalities in similar circumstances on the process requiring land. The general plan for Hay River has been signed off. The Town of Hay River has done its part. The affected First Nations within the Deh Cho have been consulted and, inasmuch as is possible, the Town of Hay River has done what it can to address the conditions of the West Point First Nation.

The NWT Metis Association apparently would be amendable to entering into discussions with the town and the department. I understand that the town has been advised of some requirements...

Mr. Speaker, I would like to seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement, please.

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The Member is seeking unanimous consent to conclude her statement. Are there any nays? No, there aren't. Mrs. Groenewegen , you may conclude.

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I understand that the town has been advised of some requirement on their part to participate in this process with the assistance of computer programming and software which they are willing to get up to speed with as soon as possible.

The town and the people of Hay River want this process to proceed in a timely manner. Mr. Speaker, I submit that the ball is now in the GNWT's court. We're looking for leadership from this government on this issue. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 3, Members' statements. The Member for North Slave , Mr. Lafferty .

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Adequacy And Consistency In Health Services Delivery

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Leon Lafferty

North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. You have to excuse me if I slur my words here -- I had some dental work done -- especially when I'm going to be doing a speech on health.

In August of 2002, I had the pleasure of travelling with the Minister of Health and Social Services to a community meeting in Wekweti. At that meeting, community members pointed out the need for a health centre and a nurse within the community. They had concerns with the lack of a permanent nurse, and they pointed out that they had been asking for these services for a very long time. People asked also, and wondered why, there was no consistency in health care delivery standards. For example, some northern communities which are smaller than Wekweti have a full-time nurse and a health centre.

In response to these concerns, the Minister of Health and Social Services stated that there was a need for a standard level of health service delivery across the Territories, and that he would be working towards this. That was over a year ago, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yesterday the honourable Michael Miltenberger updated the House on the Health and Social Services System Action Plan which was released in February 2002. In his update the Minister stated that 36 of the 45 action plan items have been addressed by the department. He also stated that the remaining nine action items will be looked at within the next six months.

Mr. Speaker, I looked through this action plan and I was very alarmed that no mention was made of funding a community nurse or a health centre in Wekweti. Mr. Speaker, last December, the Minister stated that we in the Dogrib region would be getting two doctors and possibly another nurse as soon as they could be recruited. This announcement was great news to my people. Having access to local doctors and nurses would mean easier access to medical care, and less waiting time and travel away from home and loved ones. Mr. Speaker, I reviewed statements that the Minister has made during the past year on health delivery and I have not heard more on this subject.

Mr. Speaker, I will be asking him for an update on this matter later on in question period. Thank you.

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Item 3, Members' statements. Member for Range Lake , Ms. Lee .

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Support For Sport And Recreation Facilities In Yellowknife

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, on Sunday, September 29th, I had the opportunity to attend the official opening of the MultiPlex arena in Yellowknife, and I would like to take this opportunity to speak, once again, about the need for this government to support recreation facilities in the city of Yellowknife.

Mr. Speaker, everyone knows that the capital city is experiencing rapid growth and it seems that our property taxes are on an upwards spiral, but our taxes are not enough to meet the demands being placed on our community infrastructure. The one area that is really falling victim to this, Mr. Speaker, is our sports and recreational facilities.

For the most part of the past winter months, Mr. Speaker, this city of 18,000 had to share one ice pad. A large part of this had to do with the lack of funding which made it necessary to extend the life of the old Gerry Murphy Arena as long as possible, until it had to be finally shut down before the new one could be built. We're very glad that the second ice pad now is operating and it has eased the burden somewhat, but the sad fact that is this is far from enough to meet the needs of our growing city.

Mr. Speaker, it has been brought to my attention that the city of Iqaluit -- and I've said this many times in the House before -- which has a population of under 10,000, has two ice pads. Yellowknife, on the other hand, with a population of 18,000, now only has two ice pads and even with the new ones it's not enough. We are in need of at least three ice pads for the population we serve, and this means we have no time to rest before we have to get the third one running.

Mr. Speaker, I know that the funding for recreational facilities is done by this government through block funding, but this gives no comfort to my constituents who can see with their eyes the irony of a young offenders facility going up side by side with a recreational facility that has had to go through such a struggle to raise money. I really believe it is high time that this government acknowledges it is falling behind the needs of this growing city, and that it cannot hide behind block funding when it comes to showing commitment for recreational facilities.

I might also add, Mr. Speaker, in light of the Minister's statement yesterday about a recreation and sports policy, I don't believe its enough to tinker with the lottery program and governance structure. I believe what is needed is commitment to the youth and more dollars. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Promoting NWT Tourism

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Brendan Bell

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday in the House I had questions for the Minister of RWED about the need to have a plan to diversify our economy, Mr. Speaker. I think it's critical that we ensure that we don't put all of our economic eggs in one basket.

But I think one of the things that can really be the pillar of a strong economy, and it's something that we've had a lot of discussion about, is the tourism industry. Unfortunately over the last few years there have been a cascade of events, starting with 9-11, the war in Iraq, SARS, mad cow; a number of events that have hurt tourism in North America, hurt tourism in Canada and certainly, by extrapolation, in the Northwest Territories. Mr.

Speaker, when it comes to international travelers, many of us would recognize that they don't simply leave their international jurisdiction and end up in the Northwest Territories. They have to come through southern Canada. So if southern Canada is having problems, if there are travel advisories out because we are dealing with a SARS epidemic in Toronto, people from overseas oftentimes don't make the distinction and don't realize that Toronto isn't in fact all of Canada. It affects us, certainly, Mr. Speaker, in the Northwest Territories.

I know many of my colleagues and I have been working late recently, but if they've had the chance to look at the sky, they've seen a beautiful natural phenomenon that we're so lucky to have, and that's the northern lights. But, Mr. Speaker, the tourism industry that has been built up around this natural phenomenon can be a fickle one, and we have seen it seriously impacted and seriously affected by these events of late. It's important that government does what it can to work with industry to try to bring this and other tourism industry back to the Territories.

We need to work with industry to make sure that we help to develop product. After all, we have to have something for people to do and to see and to partake in when they do come to the North. We know that if you look at other natural phenomenons like the Rocky Mountains, Mr. Speaker, there has been product, there has been an industry developed around something beautiful like that, but it doesn't happen by accident and it doesn't happen without government support.

We can ensure that the entire Northwest Territories is included because we can focus on destination awareness, we can focus on the Northwest Territories as a desirable destination to visit. I think it's timely and I think we have to keep the pressure on the federal government to recognize that we, too, have been seriously impacted by negative events; our tour operators, our hotels, our restaurants, our airlines. It hasn't been just Toronto. We need to continue to send this message to the federal government. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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David Krutko

Item 3, Members' statements. The Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes , Mr. Allen .

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Recognition Of Constituents In Inuvik Twin Lakes

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Roger Allen

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As you and I can relate to, the trapping season is shortly going to be coming upon us. We won't be in the House to welcome the trappers back on the land, but today I would like to acknowledge a few of my constituents who rarely, if ever, get attention other than if they become involved in our community politics, socio-economic or cultural organizations that drive our institutions.

Mr. Speaker, in my riding of Inuvik Twin Lakes, we have a very large mixture of various ethnic groups who make many contributions to the economic and social fabric of Inuvik.

Mr. Speaker, I have to express my gratitude to my good friends such as Frankie Charlie, Big Ben Rogers, Michael Coyen, Joe Norbert and Mervin Firth, just to name a few. Each time I travel to my hometown of Inuvik, I get a chance to speak with them about what's important to them and others who they tend to represent. They often remind me of my role. Even though they don't say it out loud, they have a certain way of expressing what an MLA must do to keep people aware of our work.

So today I just want to say a huge hello to those quiet gentlemen in the riding of Inuvik Twin Lakes who often sit down with me over a cup of coffee and remind me of what we are here for, and sometimes we are underappreciated. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Braden .

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NWT Arts Strategy

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Bill Braden

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We've all returned from quite a long summer and quite a nice summer, at least in this part of the NWT. Part of the summer for all Northerners, Mr. Speaker, is a chance to attend the arts and music festivals that have become such an important part of the summer activities and the fabric of our culture and our lifestyle here in the NWT. Around the rest of the year, Mr. Speaker, we also enjoy in each and every one of our communities, some kind of a winter festival as well. It helps us celebrate the environment we live in and helps give us a break from it too.

In the course of that, we have our own arts and crafts and drama organizations -- volunteer organizations mostly, Mr. Speaker -- that get together and try to do something for themselves, but also to show the community, friends and neighbours what they've got going for them.

I was just at a great evening this past weekend, organized by the Yellowknife Photography Club, where a noted Canadian photographer, Sherman Hines, was in to give us a demonstration and some tips on his craft. Mr. Speaker, this is also something that contributes to -- as Mr. Bell was talking about -- a tourism product that is so important to our economy here and the success of our communities. We have many unique things to offer to ourselves and to Canadians and visitors from around the world. It's in this respect, Mr.

Speaker, that I continue to look forward, as I'm sure Members on this side of the House have for months and months, to the release of the NWT arts strategy. It's something that a lot of people have put a lot of work into, but we have not seen it materialize yet. I just put that out as one of the kind of end game anticipations that I have to see what our government is going to put forward in the line of a strategy for this very important part of our life as Northerners. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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David Krutko

Item 3, Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. The Minister responsible for Aboriginal Affairs , Mr. Antoine .

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Further Return To Question 363-14(6): Access To The Community Futures Program In The Deh Cho Constituency

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Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Mr. Speaker, I have a return to oral question asked by Mr. McLeod on October 2, 2003, regarding access to the community futures program in the Deh Cho constituency.

The Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development is responsible for the community futures program in the Northwest Territories. The program is viewed as a cornerstone of the department's economic development efforts. Consequently, in the last four years, the department has financed a significant expansion of the community futures program in an effort to cover all regions of the Northwest Territories.

Three communities, Kakisa, Fort Providence and Hay River Reserve, in the department's South Slave region are not formally serviced by a specific community futures development corporation under the current contribution agreements. However, these three communities have had access to all financial programs delivered by the department's regional office in Hay River.

I have asked the department to take the necessary steps to ensure that the three communities receive service and representation by an existing community futures board as soon as possible and no later than April 1, 2004, at the latest. Once a decision has been reached on which community futures board will deliver the program to the three communities mentioned, board members representing the communities shall be appointed from the respective communities. Mahsi cho.

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Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

David Krutko

Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Ms. Lee .

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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Page 1262

Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to recognize two people in the gallery, one being a long-term resident of Yellowknife, Mr. Fred Turner, and a long-term resident of Yellowknife and a constituent of Range Lake, Mr. Francis Chang. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Deputy Speaker

David Krutko

Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Nitah .

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Page 1262

Steven Nitah

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would also like to recognize Fred and Francis, as well. Both gentlemen I know. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Deputy Speaker

David Krutko

Welcome to the House. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Item 6, oral questions. The Member for Inuvik Boot Lake , Mr. Roland .

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Question 389-14(6): Reorganization Of The Inuvik Regional Health And Social Services Authority

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1263

Floyd Roland

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question will be directed to the Minister of Health and Social Services . I would like to know from the Minister what plans are in place now for the reorganization of the Inuvik Regional Health and Services Authority. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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Minister of Health and Social Services , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1263

Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, plans are underway for the creation of the Sahtu Health and Social Services Authority, which will somewhat impact the structure in Inuvik. There is also work underway up in the Beaufort-Delta to look at the current structure of the board and membership from the communities. That is also underway and it will hopefully be completed by February. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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David Krutko

Supplementary, Mr. Roland .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1263

Floyd Roland

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Can the Minister inform us as to when the plans to proceed were made by Cabinet? Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1263

The Deputy Speaker

David Krutko

Minister of Health and Social Services , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Question 389-14(6): Reorganization Of The Inuvik Regional Health And Social Services Authority

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1263

Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

The plans for the restructuring of the board in Inuvik, the representation and those issues have been underway and are tied somewhat to the self-government discussions with the request to improve community representation.

When I first came on as Minister about 18 months ago, we started to move on the creation of the Sahtu Health and Social Services Authority that would bring into line services and program areas in the Sahtu region similar to what has been done with the divisional education council. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

David Krutko

Supplementary, Mr. Roland .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1263

Floyd Roland

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister wasn't clear enough on when the actual plan was approved. He did say that when he came on as Minister this work began. It's interesting he should say that. Mr. Speaker, is there a final plan, and has it been approved and what date was that approved? Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1263

The Deputy Speaker

David Krutko

Minister of Health and Social Services .

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Question 389-14(6): Reorganization Of The Inuvik Regional Health And Social Services Authority

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1263

Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it was one of the action items in the action plan that was put forward, presented and approved through Cabinet. We have gone to Cabinet and to FMB with submissions for funding, and the plan is unfolding. The new CEO for the Sahtu authority started yesterday. She will be continuing with work on the job to work with the Inuvik authority, to look at the allocation of resources from the Inuvik region to the Sahtu on the administration and headquarters side. So for the last 18 months this issue has been on the table and was approved through the action plan and approved by Cabinet. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

David Krutko

Final supplementary, Mr. Roland .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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Floyd Roland

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When was the plan approved by Cabinet, and was that plan shared with the social programs committee or Members of this House? Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1263

Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we have kept the social programs committee informed, we've kept Cabinet informed and we've attempted to keep the MLAs from the Inuvik region informed. If I have not quite met the mark on that, as my colleague indicated in his opening statement, then I apologize for that and I will redress by offering a full briefing of all the information that we do have that you may have not seen in detail. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1263

The Deputy Speaker

David Krutko

Item 6, oral questions. Member for Deh Cho , Mr. McLeod .

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Question 390-14(6): Renovation Funding To The Chief Sunrise School

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1263

Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In my Member's statement today I voiced my concern over a contribution of $200,000 that the K'atlodeeche First Nation has had to contribute for an extra classroom in the Chief Sunrise School. Over the last couple of years, the issue of overcrowding has been on the table with the Minister, through correspondence and in community meetings. We've requested the Minister go to Cabinet for additional dollars, and we've been told on every occasion that there are no new dollars, there is no new money.

So as a last resort, the K'atlodeeche First Nation took $200,000 out of their companies to put towards the school. Since then we've heard a number of announcements about new schools and renovations. I'm just wondering if the Minister could inform this Assembly and if he indeed made a submission to the Financial Management Board for the $200,000 that we were requesting, over and above what was being allocated. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1263

The Deputy Speaker

David Krutko

Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Ootes .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1264

Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. First of all, I should state that any time we're dealing with a school facility, Mr. Speaker, we're very concerned to ensure that facilities are adequate and we can contribute to them. With respect to the Member's question, no, we didn't go to Cabinet for the $200,000, because we had a commitment, Mr. Speaker, from the band to provide the $200,000. Mr. Speaker, originally the Chief Sunrise School was identified as requiring upgrading, but then it was decided that KFN had provided additional funding so the scope of the work could be expanded, Mr. Speaker.

From there, the scope of the work did expand and the band itself had stated they would contribute $200,000 to the project. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

David Krutko

Supplementary, Mr. McLeod .

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Question 390-14(6): Renovation Funding To The Chief Sunrise School

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1264

Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I've had the sense for some time now that the Minister never went to bat for us, and I'm very disappointed. The community was always of the opinion that this was a last resort; because Cabinet had turned us down we had to put in the money from the community. I understand now that that was not the case at all. I would like to ask the Minister if he could tell me how many other communities in the Northwest Territories have had infrastructure facilities for education. We, in the smaller communities that have a high aboriginal population, believe it's a community right.

Yet on the reserve, which is 100 percent aboriginal, we're paying for classroom space. We have students in the hallways, we have students in the gym, we have students taking classes in the foyer, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister, can he tell me how many other communities are paying for their own classroom space. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1264

The Deputy Speaker

David Krutko

Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Minister Ootes .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1264

Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, with regard to the question itself, I don't have the answer to that. I would have to check back to see and check with our department. But, Mr. Speaker, I should point out that we looked at the school and identified a need for a renovation and a small expansion. But at the request of the community... The community requested that this be expanded. It has to be remembered, Mr.

Speaker, that within the school is an aboriginal headstart program, as well, and that particular program is a federally-funded program and normally the federal government provides capital funding for projects. We've not been able to obtain that money for this purpose, Mr. Speaker. So in a sense, we are meeting the needs of the school, but there's a program within the school that's really federally initiated and operated. We understand the need within the community, but that became part of the challenge here, Mr. Speaker.

I think the community was very generous in its approach here to offer to provide funding for expansion. But it was beyond the scope of the original project, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

David Krutko

Supplementary, Mr. McLeod .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1264

Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it's obvious that the Minister does not recognize the aboriginal headstart students as students. It's one of the most successful programs in the aboriginal communities throughout the North, and it's very disappointing once again to hear the Minister give his answer that these are not real students. I would like to ask the Minister if he would then consider the $200,000 as a loan or a contribution. I understand that other communities, such as Yellowknives First Nations, have made contributions towards their school with a repayment attached to it.

Would the Minister look at this whole scenario and consider this as a loan with repayment sometime in the future? Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

David Krutko

The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Ootes .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. First of all, Mr. Speaker, I do recognize that the aboriginal headstart program is made of students and they're extremely important. We have an early childhood development program with this government that addresses this whole area. To suggest that I don't classify them as students or am not interested in it is not correct, Mr. Speaker. I'm very concerned about early childhood development and the benefits that can offer.

Mr. Speaker, the fact is that this is an early childhood program, not a K to12 program and we provide funding for K to 12. Mr. Speaker, with regard to the request, I'd have to check to see what other programs have been operated under that basis where funding had been provided and then repaid, Mr. Speaker. I just am not familiar with that, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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The Deputy Speaker

David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Ootes . Final supplementary, Mr. McLeod .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1264

Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It would be interesting to see how the Minister is going to put a price on the aboriginal headstart program and its worth and measure the cost without having this program housed because there is no other facility to put this program in the community. I'd like to ask the Minister with my final question, what are the options that he looked at? We understood that he went to Cabinet, we find that's not the case. Did he look at anything else or did he just go to the chief of the council with his hand out? Is there any other option he can point to that he looked at for accommodating this request for additional classroom space? Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. McLeod . The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Ootes .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1264

Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Speaker, I'd have to just go back into my memory to see what actions we did take. It seems to me we had checked about the aboriginal headstart program to see if we could obtain funding from the federal government to assist us in this particular process. That's from my initial memory here, Mr. Speaker, and we did go to Cabinet, of course, with regard to the school itself in terms of providing the financing for this. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Ootes . Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Frame Lake , Mr. Dent .

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Question 391-14(6): Giant Mine Remediation Project

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1265

Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my questions today are for the Minister of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development on mine cleanup. Mr. Speaker, the funding commitments for the second year of the three-year contaminants site accelerated action fund program will soon be made. It's urgent that this government communicate their position to Minister Nault if we want to get a federal agreement on the preferred option and then to start implementing it.

Mr. Speaker, in September, the Minister said in a letter to Mr. Braden that the department was reviewing its decision on deep disposal option for arsenic at Giant. When will the department finalize its position, Mr. Speaker?

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, DIAND's independent peer review committee has looked at the review of deep disposal and they're recommending against it, so we at the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development are coordinating a GNWT review and the results will be brought to the Cabinet very soon. Thank you.

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we've already missed one year of the three-year program. Is the Minister confident that the decision on a preferred option will be transmitted to DIAND in time for us to make sure that we get some of the money for the second year of the three-year program?

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Yes, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, once the Cabinet reviews the recommendation of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development we will be making a decision on the preferred options of keeping it in the ground, either a frozen block or deep disposal. At this point in time it looks like the preferred option is probably deep disposal, but there are other processes that work, Mr. Speaker. I guess the funding is in place there. We should try to have access to it.

However, we understand that once DIAND decides on a course of action for the underground arsenic, a project description would be submitted to the Mackenzie Valley Land and Water Board and that process would likely have to go through assessment and some sort of a review. We don't know how long that's going to take, whether we could obtain funding before the process kicks into place or do we have to wait until that process is complete? This is our understanding at this point in time on the process in regard to the arsenic underground. Thank you.

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I believe I heard the Minister say that the preferred option at this time was the deep disposal option. We've had two reports from the peer review panel that say that is not a good option. Has the Minister made himself aware of these two reports so that he is fully up to date when his department comes to him with recommendations?

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Jim Antoine

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would just like to make some clarifications that the Cabinet position at this point in time was with the deep disposal option. We are aware of the recommendation of DIAND's review committee, which is recommending against it. We're reviewing that report and then we'll be making a decision according to that. It has to be a Cabinet decision to change that position. Thank you.

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Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Mr. Speaker, the final report that came up from the peer review committee was on July 22nd, so I'm disappointed to hear that in October we still don't have a position. The Minister seems to have indicated that we may have to go through a full environmental review. Will the Minister advise Minister Nault that we need to get something started very quickly and, with the peer review that's taken place, we want to make sure we can start the action within the next year. Thank you.

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Yes, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this is a process that's handled by DIAND. We can only make recommendations and suggestions and we will do that. Thank you.

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my questions today are for the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs . Mr. Speaker, I'd like to ask the Minister where we're at with the transfer of Commissioner's land as proposed in the general plan submitted by the Town of Hay River. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . The honourable Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs , Mr. Steen .

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Vince Steen

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. At the present time, Mr. Speaker, the town needs to identify the parcels of Commissioner's land that it wants transferred, and then MACA has developed as well an electronic mapping tool to assist the town to identify these parcels. Afterwards, the town will have to put in a formal application to MACA and request the transfer of this land. Because it's fee simple that they're asking for, they would then have to take the request to the aboriginal groups and see whether or not they agree with this.

Assuming everything goes forward as planned and there is no objection from the aboriginal groups, the application for transfer of this land and fee simple title will be taken to Cabinet for their approval to waive the policy. Thank you.

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So, Mr. Speaker, what the Minister is saying is that when the general plan was submitted for approval by him and signed off several months ago that the Commissioner's land that the Town of Hay River was interested in for expansion was not identified in the general plan. Thank you.

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Vince Steen

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the land that the town wanted transferred in the general plan was identified. However, it is not specific. It is not identified in the legal form so that we could take that to the aboriginal groups and to Cabinet. It has to be identified in legal form, not just in a general plan. Thank you.

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, what is the Minister's department prepared to do to assist the Town of Hay River to identify these lands in legal form? I heard him talking about an electronic mapping system. This would be new infrastructure for the Town of Hay River. I'm sure they have never used it or seen it. It sounds like it's something new. What is the department prepared to do to assist the Town of Hay River to realize the acquisition of this land? Thank you.

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Vince Steen

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it's my understanding that my lands people are working with the town at this time already to explain to them how to use this equipment and assist them in using the equipment so that the blocks of Commissioner's land that the town is requiring and requesting will be identified in legal form.

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Minister speaks of consultation that needs to take place about the transfer of this land with the First Nations affected parties. What about the consultation that's already taken place? What about the band council resolution from the Hay River Reserve and what about the conditional support of the West Point First Nation? What was the value of that consultation that was already done and who's going to take the lead on the consultation if that was not sufficient? Thank you.

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