Debates of Dec. 12th, 1991

This is page numbers 73 - 93 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 1st Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was review .

Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

Ministers' Statement 12-12(1): Local Involvement In The Construction Industry

Ministers' Statement 13-12(1): Women's Directorate

Ministers' Statement 14-12(1): Gwich'in Language Dictionary

Ministers' Statement 15-12(1): Territorial Disease Control

Victimization Of Native Women

Coppermine Concerns

Aboriginal People's Inherent Right To Self-government

Founding Members Of Inuit Tapirisat Of Canada

Publication Of "canada North Of 60"

Christmas In The Keewatin

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Question O67-12(1): Commitment To Northern Preference Policy

Question O68-12(1): Measures For Ensuring Northern Preference

Question O69-12(1): Investigation Into Awarding Of Petroleum Delivery Contracts

Question O70-12(1): Relation Of Changes In Personnel Department To Beatty Report

Question O71-12(1): Consultation With Constitutional Commission On Beatty Report

Question O72-12(1): Economy Class Air Fares For Government Personnel

Question O73-12(1): Accrual Of Air Travel Points For Government Use

Question O74-12(1): Involvement Of Ordinary Members In Capital Planning Process

Question O75-12(1): Internal Review Of NWT Power Corporation

Supplementary Question O75-12(1): Internal Review Of NWT Power Corporation

Question O76-12(1): Progress On Rewriting Education Act

Question O77-12(1): Inherent Right Of Aboriginal People To Self-government

Question O78-12(1): Increase In Water Rates, Inuvik

Question O79-12(1): Government's Emergency Response Plan

Question O80-12(1): Status Of The Northern Accord

Question O81-12(1): Funding For Cultural Inclusion Programs

Further Return Question O81-12(1): Funding For Cultural Inclusion Programs

Question O82-12(1): Need To Review Department Of Social Services

Question O83-12(1): Request For Report Re Disturbance At Yellowknife Correctional Centre

Question O84-12(1): Social Assistance Payments Going To Southern Canada

Question O85-12(1): Minister Meeting Staff And Clients Of Social Services

Question O86-12(1): Minister's Plan To Develop An Economy In The Nwt

Item 9: Petitions

Item 11: Tabling Of Documents

Notice Of Motion 33-12(1): Change To Sitting Hours

Notice Of Motion 34-12(1): Construction Of A Garage In Kakisa

Notice Of Motion 35-12(1): Appointment Of Members To The Special Committee On Constitutional Reform

Notice Of Motion 36-12(1): Support For Construction Of Airport, Rae-edzo

Walk-in Freezer For Kakisa

Serving Of Alcohol At Government-sponsored Functions

Change To Sitting Hours

First Reading Of Bill 3: Adoption Of The French Version Of Statutes And Statutory Instruments Act

First Reading Of Bill 1: Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1991-92

First Reading Of Bill 2: Borrowing Authorization Act

Revert To Item 14: Motions

Appointment Of Members To The Special Committee On Constitutional Reform

Item 16: Second Reading Of Bills

Item 17: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Committee Report 1-12(1): Report Of The Standing Committee On Agencies, Boards And Commissions

Committee Report 2-12(1): Report Of The Standing Committee On Legislation

Item 18: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Item 20: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Hon. Titus Allooloo , Mr. Antoine , Mr. Arngna'naaq , Mr. Arvaluk , Hon. Michael Ballantyne , Mr. Bernhardt , Hon. Nellie Cournoyea , Mr. Dent , Mr. Gargan , Hon. Stephen Kakfwi , Mr. Koe , Mr. Lewis , Mrs. Marie-Jewell , Ms. Mike , Hon. Don Morin , Hon. John Ningark , Hon. John Pollard , Mr. Pudluk , Mr. Todd , Hon. Tony Whitford , Mr. Zoe

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

Page 73

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Good afternoon. I would like to welcome to the Legislative Assembly, seated in the Speaker's Gallery, Her Worship, the Mayor of Fort McMurray, Mayor Collicott.

---Applause

Orders of the day for Thursday, December 12, 1991. Item 2, Ministers' statements. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe .

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Ministers' Statement 12-12(1): Local Involvement In The Construction Industry

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 73

Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Northern construction activities, managed by DPW, can provide significant employment and training opportunities. I am committed to implementing new initiatives to increase the employment and training of aboriginal Northerners in the construction industry. DPW and other departments are supporting a construction worker training program designed for our younger people in NWT communities. The training could be certified by both Arctic College and the NWT Construction Association and would offer aboriginal workers a full range of construction skills training. We hope to deliver the program in association with planned capital projects in smaller communities.

Many of us as MLAs have lobbied for greater job creation and training of residents on local construction projects. I was successful in having government construction projects in my riding managed in ways that maximized the employment and training of residents. The department will continue to develop this community-centred approach to its activities.

We must look at each community's construction and maintenance programs for several years and put into place the resources to train local residents for the upcoming jobs and to prepare local businesses to participate. This will require greater co-ordination with other departments such as Education, Arctic College, Economic Development and the Housing Corporation. Communities will also need to be fully involved so that local benefits can be maximized from DPW activities.

Some construction companies may be worried that they might lost contract work as a result of these new initiatives. I am confident that we can involve the industry in this endeavour and that they can benefit, as well. The construction industry employs over 2000 workers annually. This includes over 1200 full-time tradespersons and almost 300 active apprentices. Jobs in construction can be long-lasting employment opportunities for many Northerners in the smaller NWT communities.

Before closing, Mr. Speaker, I would invite the honourable Members to call upon me with concerns that they have about DPW activities in their riding. Thank you.

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Ministers' Statement 12-12(1): Local Involvement In The Construction Industry

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 73

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Thank you, Mr. Morin . Minister's statements. Mr. Ningark .

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Ministers' Statement 13-12(1): Women's Directorate

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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John Ningark

Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, and Members of the House, I am pleased to appear before you today in my new role as Minister responsible for the Status of Women. I have had the opportunity to meet with the staff of the Women's Directorate and the Status of Women Council and support the initiatives that are presently under way.

The prevention of violence against women continues to be in the forefront of everyone's mind. On December 6 a vigil was held in Yellowknife in commemoration of the 14 women killed in Montreal. Men also held a service at the same time here in Yellowknife to show their commitment to ending violence against women. In many places across the country men wore white ribbons to symbolize support, and I noticed men in this Assembly and in Yellowknife who were also wearing the ribbons in support of ending violence against women.

As Minister responsible for the Women's Directorate , I am concerned about child sexual abuse in the Northwest Territories. To address this problem, an interagency committee works toward identifying viable treatment options and resources.

Mr. Speaker, investigation of the needs of victims of violence is ongoing and is being addressed by the Department of Justice, the Women's Directorate, Social Services and non-governmental groups such as Arctic Public Legal Education and Information Society, the YWCA and the Native Women's Association.

---Applause

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Ministers' Statement 13-12(1): Women's Directorate

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 73

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Ministers' statements. Mr. Allooloo .

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Ministers' Statement 14-12(1): Gwich'in Language Dictionary

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I am proud to announce the successful publication of a dictionary in the Gwich'in language. At the end of this statement, I will be presenting a copy of this dictionary to my colleagues who represent the Gwich'in people.

This is the first dictionary of the Northwest Territories in the Gwich'in dialect that has ever been published. The dictionary is the result of a co-operative effort by the Gwich'in people in Fort McPherson. I congratulate William George Firth and the many people, especially the elders, who worked with him to produce this dictionary.

This book, which is over 200 pages, contains entries for all of the parts of speech in Gwich'in. It also contains verb charts. It will be useful for language specialists, teachers, people learning to speak Gwich'in and interpreters/translators. It is written using the standard writing system for Gwich'in.

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Ministers' Statement 14-12(1): Gwich'in Language Dictionary

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 74

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Thank you, Mr. Allooloo . Ministers' statements. Mr. Whitford .

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Ministers' Statement 15-12(1): Territorial Disease Control

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 74

Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to take this opportunity to brief the House on several infectious diseases that have affected territorial residents during the past few months. I want to update Members on the status of these diseases.

The most serious outbreak was caused by an E-coli bacteria. E-coli can seriously affect the kidneys and, in some cases, other organs of the body. In the recent Keewatin outbreak, which lasted through the summer and into the fall, there were 166 confirmed cases. Most outbreaks of E- coli infection in southern Canada have been traced to a single infected food item. But in the Keewatin, no responsible food was identified, although the disease appeared to spread from person to person. Experts from the federal Laboratory Centre for Disease Control helped in this investigation and control of this illness.

A review of this particular outbreak, which now seems to have run its course, is scheduled to take place in January.

Another notable infectious outbreak was caused by the measles virus. It also affected the Keewatin as well as the Baffin Region. Some cases of measles have also occurred elsewhere, and there are currently increasing numbers of affected persons in the Yellowknife area. Mr. Speaker, measles is an illness for which there have been vaccines since the 1960s. Before that, nearly all children got this illness while they were still young. When vaccines were introduced, it was thought that the infection could be wiped out, in the same way smallpox was eliminated.

But that has not happened, probably because some people never received the vaccine, or they received one of the earlier types of vaccines that do not have a long-lasting effect.

Measles is highly infectious. It will continue to spread even if only a small number of people are not adequately vaccinated. As a result, territorial doctors and nurses are checking their records and urging people who were inadequately immunized to receive the newer vaccine. Many of those who need the newer vaccine are teenagers. The federal laboratory centre for disease control has also been studying this outbreak in the Northwest Territories, as well as similar outbreaks in Ontario and Quebec, in order to advise on better preventive measures.

Mr. Speaker, the AIDS virus continues to be a serious problem. Twelve cases have been reported, and there is still an urgent need for all community leaders to speak out about this fatal disease and to reinforce the individual message of last year's door-to-door campaign.

On the other hand, tuberculosis is an illness that is coming under better control. The number of identified infections this year is not very different from 1990. While vigilance and rapid intervention is still required, the number of infections has dropped from 56 active cases in 1988 to 22 last year.

Finally, one other infectious disease that has particularly affected territorial children, is haemophilus meningitis. New vaccines will soon be available, and arrangements are under way to provide them to territorial children early in 1992. It is expected the new vaccine will help to reduce the incidence of this disease.

Mr. Speaker, the control of other infectious illnesses depend on the care people take in what they do. One of these is botulism. Several cases of botulism were reported again this past summer. Teaching about the risk that results from preparing country food using plastic bags instead of using the old and safer ways of the elders will need to continue until this unnecessary illness and loss of lives is stopped.

In conclusion, I would like to take this opportunity to commend the efforts made by the staff of the Northwest Territories health system and others who have worked diligently in attempts to control the spread of these infectious diseases. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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Ministers' Statement 15-12(1): Territorial Disease Control

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 74

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Thank you, Mr. Whitford . Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Gargan .

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Victimization Of Native Women

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 74

Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Like many Canadians, Mr. Speaker, I was deeply moved last Friday, December 6, when men and women alike remembered the tragedy in Montreal. White ribbons help us remember that only two years ago, 14 women were slain by a man who was filled with hate.

Mr. Speaker, I find myself thinking a lot since then about the sort of hatred that would cause such a senseless slaughter. While this was no doubt the act of an irrational individual, it is also a reflection of the way women have been victimized over the years by Canadian society.

But, Mr. Speaker, I could not help thinking that, as horrible as the "Montreal Massacre" was, we should not overlook the fact that native people, and especially native women, have been victimized by violence ever since the European explorers first arrived in our land.

When I looked at the white ribbons we wore last Friday, I found myself thinking of Helen Betty Osbourne, brutally murdered by non-native bullies who were ignored by the law because their victim was of aboriginal descent.

Those white ribbons also made me think of Kitty Nowdluk Reynolds, victimized once by a sexual assault, and then victimized again by the Crown attorneys and RCMP officers who forced her to parade across the country in handcuffs and locked her in a van with her attacker.

I thought of Inuit women from communities in Northern Quebec who were forced to move to the High Arctic regions they did not know. They told of their hardship and the sexual victimization they endured at the hands of white policemen. Today they are still victimized; this time by a federal Minister who has called them all liars.

Later this afternoon I will table an account of conditions in Canada's only prison for women -- a dungeon-like institution where outdated correctional practices and medieval surroundings victimize our people once because they are women and again because they are native.

But no one wore white ribbons for Helen Betty Osbourne. No one wore white ribbons for Kitty Nowdluk Reynolds. No one wore them for the Arctic exiles or the for female inmates who have been killing themselves in penitentiaries, or for the women of Oka, or for the countless other aboriginal women who have disappeared or have been victims of violence in communities where no services exist.

Mr. Speaker, hatred against women is most virulent when it is mixed with hatred against a racial group. We cannot overlook the fact that while all women are subject to victimization, native women are at the greatest risk. Violence is not only a women's issue and not only a men's issue. There are elements that make it a racial issue as well, and we simply cannot pretend that this is not true. Only by talking about these truths openly will we ever come close to understanding the question that will challenge us throughout the 1990s: How can the people of the North live together?

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Victimization Of Native Women

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 75

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Bernhardt .

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Coppermine Concerns

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 75

Ernie Bernhardt

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As a result of a public meeting held December 4, 1991 in Coppermine, here are some of the concerns brought to me to address to the Government Leader .

More training opportunities for trades people to get training at the local level must be made available. They would prefer not to go to Fort Smith or Inuvik or other campuses but that these training services be delivered at the community level.

The government must develop a good working relationship with private industry to encourage environmentally sound development of our mineral and renewable resources while creating employment and training in areas relevant to the future of our area.

There must be more exposure of our young people to the outside world and the opportunities available to the public sector in training, employment and life. Examples are Expo, student exchanges and school trips. Focus should be on longer term, such as a span between 20 and 50 years, because of the explosion in the number of our youth and the lack of resources that exist in the following areas: training, employment, social and economic development, housing and school in general.

More money is needed for economic development at the grassroots level such as funding for restaurants, beauty salons, clothing stores, and so on, and to encourage the building of these facilities capable of handling these businesses.

I would like to table these at the appropriate time. Thank you.

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Coppermine Concerns

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 75

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Zoe .

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Aboriginal People's Inherent Right To Self-government

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 75

Henry Zoe

North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On the front page of yesterday's Globe and Mail it was reported that the recently elected government in British Columbia has, and I quote, "recognized the political legitimacy of aboriginal title and the inherent right of aboriginal people to self-government."

Mr. Speaker, BC is now the third province in Canada, besides Ontario and New Brunswick, to publicly support aboriginal people's inherent right to self-government. I think this is remarkable, because all three of these provincial legislatures are run by non-native people.

It is remarkable because this Legislature is run by aboriginal people, yet we have not publicly stated our support for that inherent right of aboriginal self-government. It is remarkable because our Executive Council, headed by an aboriginal person, and with aboriginal Ministers, is incapable of getting any closer to that inherent right of aboriginal self-government than coming up with a plan to delegate a limited form of municipal self-government, called community transfer agreements, to our aboriginal communities.

Mr. Speaker, this Legislature should be taking the lead in this country in recognizing aboriginal people's inherent right to self-government, instead of making public statements that somehow aboriginal people who express this right are somehow taking a stand. I would, rather, suggest that those government leaders in this House who will not publicly support aboriginal people's inherent right to self-government are the ones who are taking the stand by not recognizing in a substantive manner the rights we have as aboriginal people. Mahsi cho.

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Aboriginal People's Inherent Right To Self-government

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 75

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Members' statements. Ms. Mike .

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Founding Members Of Inuit Tapirisat Of Canada

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 75

Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Mr. Speaker and Members, I would like to make a special recognition of the founding members of the Inuit Tapirisat of Canada. It was 20 years ago this past August, in 1971, that the Inuit of the Inuvialuit Region, Kitikmeot, Keewatin, Baffin and Northern Quebec, got together for the very first time to establish an Inuit national organization. Prior to this time, the Inuit had never organized through association. It is through the founding of the Inuit Tapirisat of Canada that the land claim process is happening, that constitutional talks, political development and many cultural and language programs have been promoted and implemented.

The founding members are as follows: Jacob Oweetaluktuk, Povungnituk, Nunavik; Lena Pedersen, Coppermine, Kitikmeot; Ed Berthe, Fort Churchill, Manitoba, now deceased; Ipeelee Kilabuk, Pangnirtung, Baffin; Tagak Curley, Coral Harbour, Keewatin; Joanasie Nuliuyuk, Ivujivik, Nunavik; Eliyah Menarik, Montreal, Quebec; Mike Panika, Coral Harbour, Keewatin; Raymond Ningeocheak, Coral Harbour, Keewatin; Willie Adams, Rankin Inlet, Keewatin; Noah Qumaq, Salluit, Nunavik; Silasie Cookie, Kuujjurrapik, Nunavik; Mary Cousins, Iqaluit, Baffin; Peter Komingook, Coppermine, Kitikmeot; Josiah Kadlutsiak, Igloolik, Baffin; Meeka Kilabuk, Pangnirtung, Baffin; Rosemary Nuttanaatiaq, Cambridge Bay, Kitikmeot; Simonie Alainga, Iqaluit, Baffin; Joanasie Salomonie, Cape Dorset, Baffin; Sarah Seeloo, Baker Lake, Keewatin; Wallace Goose, Holman Island, Kitikmeot, now deceased; Hugh Ungagai, Baker Lake, Keewatin, now deceased; Sally Martin, Baker Lake, Keewatin; and Hon.

Jean Chretien, Minister of Indian and Northern Affairs at the time. The first elected board of directors were Lena Pedersen, Tagak Curley, Mike Panika, Raymond Ningeocheak, Noah Qumaq, Josiah Kadlutsiak, Meeka Kilabuk and Wallace Goose. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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Founding Members Of Inuit Tapirisat Of Canada

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 75

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Thank you, Ms. Mike . Members' statements. Mr. Lewis .

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Publication Of "canada North Of 60"

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 75

Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Following the lead of the Member for Slave River, I would like to announce the publication of a book

This book was published this fall in Canada by McClelland and Stewart. In addition to some incredible photographs, I should like to point out that the people that put this book together, did all the writing and so on, were northern people: Ethel Blondin; Ann Hanson from Iqaluit; Jack Anawak; Eric Watt, a local person; John Bayly. In fact, nearly everybody who has contributed to this book is known throughout the Territories.

The unfortunate thing, Mr. Speaker, is that unlike Mrs. Marie-Jewell , I am not able to give everybody a copy because it is a very expensive book; it costs $65. It was produced by German book producers; it was published by McClelland and Stewart; it was printed in Malaysia using Swiss technology and is now available in book stores right across the country. And for those people who have a special friend who they would like to give a copy to, it is available in the local book store.

I should point out, Mr. Speaker, I have absolutely no financial interest in this particular publication and I am only doing it as a public service notice. Thank you.

---Laughter

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Publication Of "canada North Of 60"

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 76

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Arngna'naaq .

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Christmas In The Keewatin

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 76

Silas Arngna'naaq

Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Christmas is coming upon us very quickly. On this occasion all the people will be celebrating the birth of one of the most influential persons in history. During this time of the year many people will celebrate by exchanging of gifts. This is possible for those people who can afford to buy these gifts. In my constituency the majority of the local people are not able to afford these gifts as a result of the high unemployment as well as the inability to get into the system of higher learning.

This is not to say the people will not celebrate Christmas. As always, Inuit will celebrate Christmas regardless of their dilemma. I hope that this government will be able to assist me and members from the Keewatin to improve the employment in my area, and enable more people to enjoy Christmas more. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Christmas In The Keewatin

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 76

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Whitford .

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Return To Question O9-12(1): Additional Nurse For Chesterfield Inlet

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Page 76

Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, I have a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Arvaluk on December 10th, regarding an additional nurse for Chesterfield Inlet. The former Minister of Health , Nellie Cournoyea , discussed this matter with Mayor Kadluk of Chesterfield Inlet and the chairperson of the Keewatin health board, Bette Palfrey, at a meeting during the opening of the new health centre at Chesterfield Inlet this October. That conversation was confirmed in a letter from the Minister to Mayor Kadluk dated October 25, 1991.

An agreement was reached that the situation would be addressed in the short term by providing increased casual nursing relief support to the Chesterfield Inlet nursing station from within existing resources. In the longer term, the Keewatin Regional Health Board will review its current budget to determine if an additional full-time nursing position can be created for the Chesterfield Inlet Health Centre through reallocation of salary dollars currently designated for contract nurses and/or overtime.

The honourable Member referred in his question to a letter from the Mayor of Chesterfield Inlet. Department of Health staff received the letter on December 9 and will respond to the mayor before the end of this week. Thank you.

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Question O67-12(1): Commitment To Northern Preference Policy

Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 76

John Todd

Keewatin Central

My question is for the Minister of Public Works . Mr. Speaker, on April 11, 1990, the 11th Assembly passed a motion asking the government to bring forth a policy that allows only northern companies to bid on government contracts. It is a motion that both the new Minister of Finance and the new Minister of Public Works are well acquainted with since they moved it. Could the Minister tell me if he is still committed to the intent of this motion?

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Mr. Morin .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Could the Minister, then, inform this House what steps his department has taken to implement the policy?

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. At the present time, the Minister of Finance and his department, along with my departmental officials, are looking at the implications of it.

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Michael Ballantyne

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Given that when the motion was passed there was a request that this policy be reviewed by the standing committee on finance by August 15, 1990 and that the implementation of the policy be brought forward to the Executive Council and implemented by September 1, 1990, when does the Minister expect this policy will be fully implemented?

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Michael Ballantyne

The Minister of Finance will take the question.

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John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, I think if the policy, as it is coming forward right now, were looked at by this House, it would not be acceptable because it does not address the concerns of that particular motion. It still does not say the kinds of things that people in this House have said, so we are looking at it again. As the Minister said, my department and his department will be working together to bring the matter forward to cabinet sometime in January to address this issue and still allow some flexibility with government spending. We would propose to put this before the standing committee on finance sometime in February. Thank you.

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Question O68-12(1): Measures For Ensuring Northern Preference

Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 77

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, just to follow up on the questions from Mr. Todd . Recognizing that there is no specific policy developed, would the Minister of Finance be able to advise this House as to what measures are being taken with respect to ensuring they use northern businesses as much as they can? Thank you.

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Michael Ballantyne

Minister of Finance , Mr. Pollard .

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John Pollard

Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There is an existing business incentives policy. I am afraid to say, sir, that it does not always work in favour or northern contractors. I freely admit that. I think Members on the other side are aware of that, as well. I guess in the meantime, before we can get a new policy before cabinet and take it to SCOF, the Members should be assured that we will do everything we can as Ministers to indicate to our departments that supporting northern business is supporting businesses that employ northern people, and it is the thing that we wish to be done.

It is going to have to be a little bit on faith in the meantime, Mr. Speaker, and if Members are aware of instances where those kinds of things are not being adhered to, then they should inform the appropriate Minister. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Recognizing that there is no specific policy with respect to northern purchasing -- that was the initial question asked -- and we all recognize that there is a business incentive policy and the way it is being applied causes concern to this House, and this is the purpose for formulating the other policy, Mr. Speaker, I would like to question the Minister to determine whether or not he is considering formulating a directive to the departments to ensure that the concerns of northern purchases are followed through with by the respective departments. Thank you.

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John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, I am always somehow apprehensive, where there is a clearly defined policy, clearly defined rules and regulations for government employees to abide by, about overriding that thing by a straight directive. I think what we would prefer to do is to say to our people that are managing these projects that we want, as much as possible, to see those businesses that are northern, that employ northern people, to get the benefits of the contracts let by this government, within reason, Mr. Speaker.

Perhaps I could just say to the House that we could send out a directive that ensures that the present policy is adhered to and if there is ever a situation that is quite close, then having it referred to the Government Leader 's office may be the way to resolve the issue. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, with regard to my initial question of asking if the Minister of Finance will consider formulating a directive, and as I had indicated recognizing that there are concerns with the way the current policy is being applied, the Minister of Finance stated that he is apprehensive about formulating a directive; but I am concerned with the lack of a formal directive to go with northern purchasing.

There is a concern that there is no consistency when applying the policies, or there may be no consistency in applying the rules, so therefore I would like to know if the Minister of Finance will consider formulating a directive to ensure that northern purchasing is fully and conscientiously adhered to when we are expending public funds for purchases of goods in the North. Thank you.

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John Pollard

Hay River

Yes, Mr. Speaker, I will send out a directive that ensures that we are adhering to the existing business incentive policy. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Michael Ballantyne

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Question O69-12(1): Investigation Into Awarding Of Petroleum Delivery Contracts

Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 77

James Arvaluk

Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is to the Government Leader . On August 23, at a public meeting in Hay River, the 11th Assembly's standing committee on finance asked the Executive Council to immediately initiate an independent investigation into the awarding of petroleum delivery contracts. Subsequently, the former Government Leader announced that a consultant, Ben Anderson, had been retained to investigate this matter. Mr. Speaker, will the Government Leader please advise the House regarding the status of Mr. Anderson's investigation?

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Michael Ballantyne

Ms. Cournoyea .

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I will have to take that question under notice as I have not received the report yet.

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Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Dent .

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Question O70-12(1): Relation Of Changes In Personnel Department To Beatty Report

Item 5: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Government Leader has made assurances to this House that Members would have an opportunity to review an implementation strategy before recommendations from the report "Strength at

Two Levels." Can the Government Leader advise the House whether the changes in six positions in the Personnel department earlier this week were related to streamlining recommendations from the Beatty report and if so, why they were made prior to the House seeing an implementation strategy?

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Madam Government Leader .

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, all I can say is I just heard about that yesterday. To my knowledge it had nothing to do with streamlining. This is generally a normal happening in government within the department, that these changes take place. We have not implemented a lot of our consolidations as of yet, so this would be a separate issue that would be normal government procedures on their day-to-day activities.

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Question O71-12(1): Consultation With Constitutional Commission On Beatty Report

Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 78

Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The last few days have been dominated by discussion of the Beatty report. I would like to ask the Government Leader , since this report really would involve a massive reorganization of government and the Government Leader has indicated she would like to move on it quickly, has she had a chance to consult with our constitutional commission to make sure that the work that is in this report will relate to and not contradict what is going on with another government funded commission, which may result in constitutional arrangements with a completely different separation of powers?

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, as I said before, whether there was a report "Strength at Two Levels," whether there was a report or not, the things that we are doing today would have to be done anyway. In the last election, as you know, the question was: Where is the government spending their money? Are we making the best use of the funds that we have? Do the funds of the GNWT reflect the aspirations of the community and the programs and services that have to be delivered in the communities. Whether or not there was a report, given this position, this exercise in terms of streamlining the central agencies, would have had to go on anyway.

All the Members of the Legislative Assembly when they went and sought election were told, and it was very much reported, that there was a very strong feeling that the funding that we have as a total in government, could be utilized better at a community level and for the clients that we are serving. So I think what we should consider at this point in time is not necessarily what is in the report, but what the government must do to respond to the electorate and our clients. Thank you.

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Would the Government Leader not agree that the report "Strength at Two Levels" recommends a delegation of authority, through negotiations between one level of government and another, so that local government could assume responsibilities which have nothing at all to do with constitutional guarantees. This is just simply a matter of us deciding how much you could do at this particular time. Is that really a proper characterization of what the government intends?

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, yes.

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Speaker, has the government planned to put in place a system, so that everybody throughout the NWT will have equal opportunity, even though we will not have constitutional guarantees, an equal opportunity to assume those responsibilities locally that they would like to have, so that everybody would be treated, in a sense, in a manner in which a constitution would give them guarantees of assuming these powers.

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I could not answer that question because the commission right now is dealing with that issue in terms of the constitution and the set-up of a political body. I would be predetermining what a commission out there is presently doing. I cannot do that.

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Lewis , last supplementary.

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Page 78

Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Would the Government Leader then be open to a proposal to refer this particular report "Strength at Two Levels," to the constitutional commission, to see if what is being proposed in this report will not be at variance with what the commission has found to date and where it seems to be heading in terms of providing the level of guarantee at the local level of the provision of Government Services.

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Madam Government Leader .

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, when the report was received it was distributed as soon as possible, at which time everyone, including the commission, has a copy. Thank you.

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Mr. Dent .

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Question O72-12(1): Economy Class Air Fares For Government Personnel

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Page 78

Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This has been a week filled with talk of restraint and gestures showing restraint. Earlier this week the Minister of Economic Development and Tourism was questioned about employees flying first class to Spain. I would like to ask the Government Leader : Will the

government issue a directive immediately requiring all employees to fly economy fare when trips must be taken on short notice and requiring the travel is planned, whenever possible, to take advantage of advance booked, reduced rate tickets?

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Certainly, Mr. Speaker.

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Mr. Dent .

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Question O73-12(1): Accrual Of Air Travel Points For Government Use

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Page 79

Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Mr. Speaker, in some jurisdictions when the Government pays for tickets, any travel points that accrue from that ticket go into a government pool and those points can then be used to purchase tickets in the future. Will this government undertake to institute a policy whereby all travel points from airline tickets from Members of the Legislature, government employees, or people who work for boards, commissions or agencies funded by the government, and ensure that points and airline tickets paid for by the government go into a pool for use by the government in the future?

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Michael Ballantyne

New question. Ms. Cournoyea .

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, we realize that the federal government has instituted this policy and at this point in time this is one of the issues we are presently dealing with to see how we could take advantage of that.

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Michael Ballantyne

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Question O74-12(1): Involvement Of Ordinary Members In Capital Planning Process

Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 79

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In respect to the capital process there was a comment in respect to the Government Leader yesterday when we were debating a motion, that it was general agreement that the planning process and some sort of delaying of next year's budget, was to allow for input from Members with respect to developing capital items to be addressed in their constituency. I would like to ask the Government Leader how she anticipates the ordinary Members will be involved in the capital planning process for the upcoming budget.

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Madam Government Leader .

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I would like the Minister of Finance to respond to that question because there has been some discussion on how we can best accommodate that. Thank you.

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Michael Ballantyne

Minister of Finance , Mr. Pollard .

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John Pollard

Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we are presently behind in putting together next year's budget as I think everyone in the House is aware. I have talked to Mr. Todd , chairman of the standing committee on finance. We propose that when the standing committee on finance is reviewing the capital estimates in January or February, that we would then start discussion on the capital and O and M estimates for the following year. We would come up with a process at that time whereby MLAs would be involved in whatever is happening in their particular constituencies, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

I would like to take this opportunity to welcome to the Legislative Assembly, students and teachers from the native women's adult education training program.

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Question O75-12(1): Internal Review Of NWT Power Corporation

Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 79

John Todd

Keewatin Central

Mr. Speaker, my question is directed to the Minister responsible for the NWT Power Corporation. On Monday, the Minister told this House that the NWT Power Corporation has been, on an ongoing basis, reviewing their operations since the transfer from the federal government. I would like to ask the Minister if this internal review includes reviewing the cost effectiveness of capital projects delivered since the transfer.

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Michael Ballantyne

Minister responsible for the NWT Power Corporation, Ms. Cournoyea .

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, yes, that has been part of their ongoing review on some of the projects that were taken over initially, and the cost that had been attributed to those particular capital projects.

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Michael Ballantyne

Supplementary, Mr. Todd .

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Mr. Speaker, could the Minister, provide the results of this review?

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Michael Ballantyne

Ms. Cournoyea .

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Nellie Cournoyea

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Yes, Mr. Speaker.

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Michael Ballantyne

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Question O76-12(1): Progress On Rewriting Education Act

Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 79

Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister responsible for Education . When the Education Act was written, it was begun in 1971 and was not finished until February of 1976, so I would like to ask the Minister that since a project was begun by Mr. Kakfwi to write a new Education Act, could he tell the House where that process is right now? What is the stage we are at in rewriting the Education Act?

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Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Allooloo .

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Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As the Member is aware, the previous Minister solicited information from community members and regional organizations that are

dealing with education. My department has put together a collection of those concerns and we have consolidated them. We have sent them back to the community educational boards and councils to tell the communities, since they are the voices of the regional community boards throughout the Northwest Territories.

What we are trying to do now is to put together an information package so that the communities and the regional boards are informed as to where we are going with our Education Act. We will continue the work that was started by the previous government to see where changes should take place in the Education Act. Thank you.

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Michael Ballantyne

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Would it then be the intention of the Minister of Education to have this act completely rewritten before we begin looking at a different delivery system for education, so that it could be delivered locally instead of on a regional basis as it is in most cases right now?

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Michael Ballantyne

Minister of Education .

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Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As you know, in the "Strength At Two Levels" report there were references made to the educational boards, Arctic College and the community based educational boards. The government is now reviewing that report and we will ultimately have to wait for the direction that cabinet would give the Department of Education. After all that is resolved, after the government knows where education is going, the work would begin to update, along with the regional community educational boards, the Education Act. Thank you.

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Michael Ballantyne

Oral questions. Your second supplementary, Mr. Lewis .

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Since all this information has been collected over the last couple of years from interested groups right throughout the Territories, before a new act would be drafted, could the Minister indicate -- I do not need all the details -- whether in fact, on the basis of that information that has been collected to date, people, generally, would like to see the education system more or less continue in the direction it has been in the past, by delivering it on a regional basis?

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Michael Ballantyne

Minister of Education .

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Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Yes, we have collected concerns from the communities. In writing a new Education Act we will be using the information that we have received from the communities, as well as the organizations that are interested in education throughout the NWT. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Your last supplementary, Mr. Lewis .

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

I will try the same question again, Mr. Speaker. Would the Minister confirm, based on the information that has been collected on the delivery of education, that people are generally satisfied that it should continue to be delivered through what have been called divisional boards of education. Will he confirm that that is what he has found people are in favour of, on the basis of the work that has been collected to date?

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Michael Ballantyne

Minister of Education .

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Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. What we found was that people throughout the Northwest Territories generally are very interested in the educational system. Since education to the northern people is new, especially in my region, people are getting into the education system and the parents are very interested. We found that the community people are very interested in taking part and also in determining what their kids' education will be in the future.

Based on the government direction which will be given to the Department of Education, and based on the concerns that were raised during the process that took place last year when the department solicited information from the communities and regional boards, we will determine what will be the best method to educate the kids who are attending school currently, as well as the future students.

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Question O77-12(1): Inherent Right Of Aboriginal People To Self-government

Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 80

Henry Zoe

North Slave

Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Government Leader . Earlier today I made reference to the fact that three Canadian provinces are now on record as supporting aboriginal people's inherent right to self-government. Will the Government Leader in this House publicly state her support for the inherent right of aboriginal people to self-government?

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Michael Ballantyne

Madam Government Leader .

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, to pay due respect to my colleague, the Minister given the responsibility for intergovernmental constitutional and aboriginal affairs is planning to make a statement tomorrow or Monday. I would prefer to ask the honourable Member to await that statement.

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Question O78-12(1): Increase In Water Rates, Inuvik

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Public Works . This week residents of the town of Inuvik were notified that effective January 1, 1992, the cost of utilidor-delivered water will rise from $50 to $55 a month for most of the residents of Inuvik. Is this increase of water rates in Inuvik an isolated case, or are other communities in the NWT similarly affected?

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Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Morin .

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Question O78-12(1): Increase In Water Rates, Inuvik

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not have a clue about that. I will check it out. I will take it as notice.

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Michael Ballantyne

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Question O79-12(1): Government's Emergency Response Plan

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to direct my question to the Minister of Transportation . I did address the concern during the 11th Assembly regarding the possibility of a spill and perhaps even having an emergency SWAT team centred somewhere around Providence. My question is not regarding that particular situation.

There was an accident last month close to Alert, where a Hercules plane went down about 20 kilometres from the community, but there was not too much the community could do with regard to trying to save the people who went down with that plane. Are there plans by this government to address the whole situation of unforeseen things like this, that we do have the necessary resources to redress that situation?

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Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe the Member is questioning the emergency response the government has. This area of responsibility is with the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs.

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Michael Ballantyne

The Minister of Municipal Affairs is not here. Madam Government Leader .

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I will take the question as notice.

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Mr. Koe .

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Question O80-12(1): Status Of The Northern Accord

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Energy, Mines and Resources . In recent statements in this House the Minister made mention of the Northern Accord. During question period yesterday the Minister stated that she will have a response to a question raised by my honourable colleague here that in an update of the status of the Northern Accord which we are still waiting for. What is the current status of the Northern Accord negotiations?

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Michael Ballantyne

Madam Government Leader .

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I realize I did say I would bring it today or tomorrow. I just did not have time to complete the response and I will have it ready tomorrow for sure.

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Michael Ballantyne

The question is taken as notice. Mr. Arvaluk .

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Question O81-12(1): Funding For Cultural Inclusion Programs

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James Arvaluk

Aivilik

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to direct my question to the Minister of Education . He is also the Minister of Culture and Communications . This is in regard to the funding given to education. He is aware that with education we deal with mathematics and language. Funding is given to education, and for the cultural inclusion programs, I think they are given a lower amount of funding. Will this be increased later on?

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Michael Ballantyne

Minister of Education .

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Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have talked to my department in regard to funding for education. There are programs in the communities and in the different regions that are available in cultural inclusion. The funding that is given to the communities is being dealt with by my department. They are trying to fix it so the communities are more satisfied.

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Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Arvaluk , supplementary.

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James Arvaluk

Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When the review of this department becomes available, will he be tabling it in the House?

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Michael Ballantyne

Minister of Education .

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Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Mr. Speaker, what I have asked my department to do is to tell me what sort of moneys for cultural inclusions programs are given out to the communities. I have asked them to give me that information and also to see if we could find a better method of funding cultural programs in each community. Once that information is available, I will probably have to go back to the divisional boards, at least to the communities' educational authorities, to find out what would be the best way to use those resources that will be of the most benefit to the communities. Thank you.

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Michael Ballantyne

Oral questions. Mrs. Marie-Jewell .

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Question O82-12(1): Need To Review Department Of Social Services

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is to the Minister of Social Services . Mr. Speaker, in reviewing the Hansard, I am still not content with the types of answers that I am getting from the Minister of Social Services . I asked twice previously this week with respect to whether or not the Minister of Social Services feels that the Department of Social Services needs a total review, and I would like an answer.

Therefore, my question remains the same. Does the Minister of Social Services feel that the Department of Social Services requires a total review? Thank you.

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Michael Ballantyne

Minister of Social Services .

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, no.

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Michael Ballantyne

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mrs. Marie-Jewell .

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

With that, Mr. Speaker, recognizing that the Minister for the Department of Social Services has changed, but the department is still the same, the programs are still the same, the concerns of social issues are probably still the same in the North, I would like to know why he feels that the Department of Social Services does not need a total review. Thank you.

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Michael Ballantyne

Minister of Social Services .

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think I indicated some time ago that I have numerous briefing books and I am trying to review all of the existing programs and trying to visit all of the staff that I can, the headquarters staff and the people that work in the areas, to get a first-hand view of what programs we are dealing with. I would like an opportunity to conclude my review and my briefings and such before I can make any kind of decision like that. For the time being, I do not intend to have it fully reviewed.

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Michael Ballantyne

Second supplementary, Mrs. Marie-Jewell .

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to know why the current Minister of Social Services publicly made statements that he felt the Department of Social Services required a total review. Thank you.

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Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Whitford .

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I was not in charge then, and I am in charge now, and I feel that time is needed to have a good close look at all of the programs and talk to all of the people.

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Michael Ballantyne

Third and last supplementary, Mrs. Marie-Jewell .

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, regardless of whether he was in charge then when he made those statements, he still made a statement that the department required a total review. I am somewhat concerned that a public figure such as an MLA can just talk for nothing like the Minister has in the past, and now try to get out of it by saying that he is in charge. Therefore, Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask, does the Minister of Social Services honestly feel that the Department of Social Services needed a review in the past and still requires that review today? Thank you.

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Minister of Social Services .

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Well let us not take this personally. Mr. Speaker, I would ask the former Minister for her indulgence to be able to go over the department in the form that I would like. I would like to review these programs, as I said. At the time I was on the other side of the House I was fair to the Minister; I always gave her the benefit of the doubt, and I ask that same thing. I realize that there has been a very substantial review of the whole government, including the departments I am responsible for, Mr.

Speaker, and I would like that same opportunity, to be able to appraise all of the programs and the services that we deliver and match these with the recommendations or the views of the "Strength At Two Levels" report. I would like that opportunity as well, to undertake that over a period of time.

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Michael Ballantyne

Oral questions. Mr. Gargan .

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Question O83-12(1): Request For Report Re Disturbance At Yellowknife Correctional Centre

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Page 82

Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to direct my question to the Minister of Social Services . On Tuesday, Mr. Speaker, the Minister of Social Services , when I asked if he was willing to table the report of the riot at the Yellowknife Correctional Centre -- Christmas is just around the corner, Mr. Speaker, and January 1st is less than a month away so I am a bit concerned about what might happen in the event that a riot does take place again. My concern right now is that we do not have a tabled report. I would like to know the reasons why the riot took place in the first place.

There had to be some dissatisfaction, there have to be some issues that the inmates were concerned about that the government refused to address, which led to the riot at YCC. I do not know what the reasons are, so I would like to ask the Minister whether or not he would be willing to table this d