Debates of June 7th, 2016

This is page numbers 409-454 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

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Topics

Oral Questions

Members Present

Prayer

Minister’s Statement 39-18(2): Seniors’ Housing

Minister’s Statement 40-18(2): Minister Absent From The House.

Davina Mcleod, 2015-16 Athlete Of The Year

Seasonal Firefighter Positions

Support For The Mining And Mineral Exploration Industry

Clarification Regarding ECE Positions In Nahendeh

Northern Food Security

Establishing An Office Of The Ombudsman

Mangilaluk School In Tuktoyaktuk

Highway Rescue Services

911 Emergency Telephone Services

2016 Morel Mushroom Harvest

Daycare Support Programming In The Sahtu

The Passing Of Jim Schaefer

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Retiring Staff From Echo Dene School

Mangilaluk School In Tuktoyaktuk

Reduction Of Fire Fighting Crews

Increases To Income Assistance Food Allowance

Addressing Homelessness In Yellowknife

Establishing An Office Of The Ombudsman

Managing The Morel Mushroom Harvest

Highway Rescue Services

Program Changes For Daycare Facilities And Day Homes

911 Emergency Telephone Services

RCMP Service In Wrigley

Hamlet Of Fort Mcpherson Financial Status

Seniors’ Housing

Mr. O’Reilly’s Reply

Reappointment Of Human Rights Commission Members

Appointment Of The Equal Pay Commissioner

Extended Adjournment Of The House To June 13, 2016

Setting Of Sitting Hours By Speaker

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Reports of Committee of the Whole

Orders of the Day

MEMBERS PRESENT

Mr. Beaulieu , Mr. Blake , Hon. Caroline Cochrane , Ms. Green , Hon. Jackson Lafferty , Hon. Bob McLeod , Hon. Robert McLeod , Mr. McNeely , Hon. Alfred Moses , Mr. Nadli , Mr. Nakimayak , Mr. O’Reilly, Mr. Testart , Hon. Wally Schumann , Hon. Louis Sebert , Mr. Simpson , Mr. Thompson , Mr. Vanthuyne

The House met at 1:30 p.m.

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Prayer

Prayer

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Ministers' statements. Minister of NWT Housing Corporation.

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Minister’s Statement 39-18(2): Seniors’ Housing

Ministers’ Statements

Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Government of the Northwest Territories has made a commitment in its mandate to supporting elders by building more seniors’ supported independent living units and marketing maintenance, renovation, and mobility upgrades to help seniors age in place.

I would like to advise Members that the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation is delivering on these commitments with five nine-unit seniors’ buildings in Aklavik, Fort Liard, Fort McPherson, Fort Good Hope, and Whati. In each of these buildings, eight units will be occupied by seniors, and one unit will be designated as a caretaker unit. Designed in conjunction with the Department of Health and Social Services, these buildings include common areas where therapeutic and lifestyle programming can be delivered directly to seniors. These buildings will let our seniors live longer in communities and may prevent early admission to long-term care facilities.

As June is Seniors’ Month, Mr. Speaker, we should all take time to celebrate our seniors and reflect on how important a resource they are. Seniors are never far from the thoughts of our government, especially given the coming demographic changes. The population of seniors in the Northwest Territories is forecasted to nearly double by 2031. Meeting the needs of our growing seniors population will need to be a focus for all of us in the coming years. The federal government has also recognized this changing demographic and has allocated one and a half million dollars to support seniors’ housing needs over the next two years within the Northwest Territories.

The Northwest Territories Housing Corporation is working in collaboration with the Department of Health and Social Services to respond to the growing numbers of seniors in our population and ensure that our government is positioned to address the housing and long-term care needs of seniors, so they can remain in their own homes and their own communities as long as possible and be assured of appropriate options if the time comes when they need a higher level of support. Mr. Speaker, we will do a better job communicating our programs for seniors and ensuring that they can be easily accessed.

Our seniors deserve that. I know that everyone in the House views seniors as a priority. These actions will help our seniors age in place, and in so doing, improve their wellness. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Ministers' statements. Honourable Premier .

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Minister’s Statement 40-18(2): Minister Absent From The House.

Ministers’ Statements

Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, I wish to advise Members that the Honourable Glen Abernethy will be absent from the House today due to illness. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister’s Statement 40-18(2): Minister Absent From The House.

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Member for Mackenzie Delta .

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Davina Mcleod, 2015-16 Athlete Of The Year

Members’ Statements

Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, please join me in congratulating one of my constituents from the hamlet of Aklavik: Ms. Davina McLeod. Ms. McLeod was recently recognized by Sport North and awarded the 2015-2016 Female Athlete of the Year. Mr. Speaker, at a young age, Davina was taught how to skate by her father, Dave McLeod, and how to compete competitively at hockey tournaments. The support from her mother, Nina McLeod, has never stopped. Regardless of where Davina had to travel, Nina was in the stands cheering on her

favourite

hockey star. Mr. Speaker, in March, at the 2016 Arctic Winter Games, the female hockey team made history, with Davina the captain of the team. They went on to win first place in Iqaluit. This is the first time that Team NWT female hockey won gold in the history of the Arctic Winter Games.

Mr. Speaker, at the all-native hockey tournament in Whitehorse, Davina played on a team with her brother and cousins. Their team made it to the finals. After three periods and a tie game, they went to OT and still no score. The game went to a shoot-out and the only goal came from none other than Davina herself. Davina was named most valuable player for the tournament.

Mr. Speaker, Davina also played numerous times in the Inuvialuit Regional Corporation Cup. She has participated at various Canada Winter Games as well as the National Aboriginal Hockey Championships. Mr. Speaker, aside from her hockey career, she has excelled in soccer and baseball. Mr. Speaker, she also graduated this past weekend. Mr. Speaker, the 2015-2016 Female Athlete of the Year: Ms. Davina McLeod. Mahsi cho.

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Davina Mcleod, 2015-16 Athlete Of The Year

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Members' statements. Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh .

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Seasonal Firefighter Positions

Members’ Statements

Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

A lot of opportunities are critical to our small communities, as is the case with many of my colleagues, and any community in my riding. One or two positions makes a big difference. A single job loss has a ripple effect through families and will be noticed at school, the store, and the local RCMP detachment, for example. New jobs are few and far between. Like anywhere, job loss is a major disruption to a person's lifestyle.

So, Mr. Speaker, I was not surprised when the Chief of Fort Resolution was upset that ENR had reduced the number of seasonal fire fighters it is hiring to the communities due to changes made in the fire crew configuration. Mr. Speaker, I share his frustration. Two positions is an unacceptable impact to Fort Resolution. I agree that changing the configuration of fire crews has some merit, but it is unfair to the communities like Fort Resolution who will see fewer seasonal positions as a result.

Mr. Speaker, even if ENR thinks the overall distribution of resources is more efficient, the redistribution and the loss should not be borne by seasonal workers in small communities. It does not reflect the value of local employment to residents in rural and remote communities.

Mr. Speaker, the individuals who might have been hired as fire fighters this season are capable of working. Although, the total number of firefighters across the NWT has not changed, those people do not have jobs. There are opportunities in the warehouse to work as backup or another part of the GNWT. Some people thrive on the seasonal nature of firefighting work and the flexibility that provides. GNWT programs need seasonal workers with flexible hours.

I can think of one individual who does not fit that 8:30-to-five office work, but this person would be an excellent youth officer from after school to maybe eight or nine at night. Mr. Speaker, ENR took steps to minimize the impacts of the change.

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Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh , your time has expired for Members’ statements.

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted

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Seasonal Firefighter Positions

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, ENR took steps to minimize the impacts of the change to crew configuration by offering more permanent jobs. When it comes to small communities, people are much more vulnerable in situations of job loss. Mr. Speaker, the loss of seasonal positions in Fort Resolution is unacceptable. The precedent it sets is a critical issue not only for my riding, for all small communities across the NWT. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Support For The Mining And Mineral Exploration Industry

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

Mr. Speaker, recently the NWT and Nunavut Chamber of Mines and the Mining Association of Canada commissioned a survey conducted by Abacus Data. It clearly shows that the citizens of the North overwhelmingly support the mining and exploration industry. More to it, Northerners not only believe the industry's economic contributions are substantial, but that our safety and environmental standards go beyond regular expectations. Most importantly, Mr. Speaker, our residents believe that the development of new mines is a positive contribution to our economy and that this government must further support this key industry.

To add more clarity, let's delve into the survey numbers. Mr. Speaker, 86 per cent of the respondents believe a strong mining sector is vital to the long-term health of the NWT economy; 83 per cent say regulation of the sector works well; and 82 per cent would like to see more mining projects in the NWT. That translates into eight out of ten people having a positive outlook on the mining and mineral exploration industry.

Mr. Speaker, though these numbers are almost resoundingly optimistic, 84 per cent are still worried about the future of the NWT economy. Frankly, this is unacceptable. We have a responsibility, as leaders in this territory, to soothe the fears of our residents of our dismal economic expectations while also offering a real plan for growth and job creation. Clearly, a lot of faith is where these solutions lie in the industry that contributes almost 40 per cent of our GDP: mining and mineral exploration.

This budget now proposes to grow the mining industry by increasing the mining incentive program, both with no new mines opening other than small grassroots projects, unsettled land claims, and with little or no new investment for the private sector. I am obliged to ask: where exactly is this government's often-touted Mineral Development Strategy? When is it going to deliver real results for our economy? Mr. Speaker, according to the survey, 88 per cent of our people believe that the 18thAssembly is supportive of the mining and mineral exploration industry.

I urge the government to prove to the residents of the NWT that their confidence in this House and in this government is not unfounded. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Clarification Regarding ECE Positions In Nahendeh

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yesterday and today was a learning opportunity for myself as we started going through the Department of Education's mains. As many may have heard in the Committee of the Whole, I was very disappointed to hear that we lost two half-time positions within the department. One was a vacant position that was moved to the North Slave and the other one was to be eliminated as part of the reduction plan. I was really concerned because I was not aware of the eliminated position.

Mr. Speaker, as we were going through the business plans, the departments identified potential reductions whether it was program, services, or staffing. The proposed reductions were clearly identified by the departments during committee and by the Finance Minister during many briefings. During this time, the committee identified their concerns with the proposed reduction and provided the department and the Finance Minister with our recommendations. This led to another round of discussions about the proposals. This was challenging, but as I was finding out, this is all part of the consensus government.

However, yesterday during the Committee of the Whole, as we were going through the Department of Education mains, we had a hiccup. It seems that we had two half-time positions removed from the Dehcho. When I questioned the Minister about these reductions, he said they did go before committee with all the reductions and all the information provided to committee. My reply was that I thank the Minister for his answer but I regretfully disagree. I go on to say that at no point was I aware that these positions were going to be cut. This leads to my second lesson today.

As I was doing research on the cuts, after speaking with research, the Minister of Education , Minister of Finance, and the Minister of Finance ’s special advisor, we were able to find out there was only one half-time position being transferred to the North Slave, which was vacant for a long time in Dehcho. The other half-time position was not going to be eliminated in the Dehcho.

Therefore, when I make a mistake, I own up to it as my father tells me to do. The Minister of Education was correct that the half-time position was identified in the business plan. I apologize to him and his department. As well, I am happy to tell the people in the Nahendeh riding that there were no positions being reduced from this department. In closing, Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank the research department, Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, and the Minister of Finance's special advisor for helping clear up this issue.

As I said before, this was a learning opportunity to get better as an MLA and to better understand dealing with the business plans in the future. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Northern Food Security

Members’ Statements

Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, hunger is a reality in the North. Caregivers can't afford to feed their children a balanced meal. They reduce the size of their kids' meals because they don't have enough food. They are going hungry themselves because they can't afford to buy food. Some lose weight as a result. These findings are part of a report by Food Banks Canada with the title, "What Will It Take to Make Real Progress on Northern Food Security?" It was published last month.

Mr. Speaker, 20 per cent of NWT households don't have enough food. Why not? Because of the high cost of store-bought food, because of the high cost of going out on the land, and because of the decline in the number of animals harvested for food. These are a few of the many reasons the report gives. Here in Yellowknife, Food Rescue distributes 200,000 kilograms of food discarded by grocery stores each year to schools, soup kitchens, and low-income families in need. Volunteers across the NWT have established soup kitchens and food banks. In fact, Food Banks Canada estimates food bank usage has increased across all three northern territories by 247, yes, that is 247 per cent, since 2008.

Mr. Speaker, let me provide some numbers which explain this increase. The federal government has estimated that food for a family of four costs $23,000 annually. Yet, half of the households in the small communities of the NWT have income below $30,000 a year. That equation equals hunger. Mr. Speaker, it is a shocking fact that households who rely on government income are those most likely not to have enough food at home, according to the report. This is a fact acknowledged by the GNWT when, in 2015, it raised the food allowance for income assistance clients for the first time in six years.

The Finance Minister of the day said that the food allowance would be increased annually until it caught up to the Market Basket Measure. But there was no increase in this budget. Increases are scheduled for the next two years. Mr. Speaker, the Food Bank’s report makes recommendations which provide long-term solutions rather than opening more food banks. I want to highlight the recommendation to increase support for the consumption of traditional food with programs that increase access to the land as well.

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Speaker, I seek consent to conclude my statement. Thank you.

---Unanimous consent granted

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you colleagues. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The territorial government has a role to play in lobbying the federal government to expand and improve the Nutrition North Canada Subsidy. I will have questions for the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment . Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Establishing An Office Of The Ombudsman

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Mr. Speaker, all these are moves in the right direction and we should go further. One important way to do this is to establish the Office of the Ombudsman. An ombudsman is a public representative who looks into situations where ordinary citizens feel they have not been treated fairly by government. An ombudsman can help people understand their rights and investigate imbalance or unfairness in how people are treated. An ombudsman is a neutral investigator resolving disputes, analyzing how the government works, and helping it serve people better. Mr.

Speaker, as MLAs, it is an important part of our job to be available to our constituents, to assist them with the concerns about how government affects their lives. That is a part of this job that I eagerly take on because the ability to help constituents is at the heart of public service. We live in a complicated world and this is a complex government. In that environment, it is easy to imagine where different

interpretation or application of different laws or regulations can wind up in a situation of uneven or unfair treatment. In fact, we are aware of some individuals' matters that have been unresolved for years. An ombudsman can help make sure citizens aren't left behind by the complexity of government. If someone is treated unfairly or unequally, an ombudsman can ensure he or she has an avenue to understand the process and address the inequality. It can help government be more efficient by correcting areas where the system should work better. Mr. Speaker, nine provinces and the Yukon have ombudsman offices.

The importance of the office is illustrated by Yukon, in fact. Its office began as part-time and became full-time in 2013 because of the high demand. It recently expanded to a five-person office. Yukon has also adapted its legislation to allow Aboriginal governments to request ombudsman services. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous concept to conclude my statement. Thank you.

---Unanimous consent granted

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

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Jackson Lafferty

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Mangilaluk School In Tuktoyaktuk

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Herbert Nakimayak

Nunakput

Quyanainni, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, right now in the communities throughout the Beaufort Delta Region only 30 per cent of the students in grades 10, 11, 12 are going to school. Beaufort Delta District Education Council describes the situation as critical.

Mr. Speaker, I know there are many reasons students skip school; attendance goes down as weather gets warmer, or young people may be staying up late and sleeping in. Sometimes the work can be discouraging too, especially if young people have to leave their home communities to finish their high school education.

Another factor, Mr. Speaker, is the school's capacity, its ability to deliver what the students need. Let's consider Mangilaluk School in Tuktoyaktuk. First built in the 1990s, Mangilaluk School was originally built for kindergarten to grade nine, then expanded up to include up to grade 12. It now supports 18 teachers, not including other staff, and 225 students.

Back in the 15thAssembly, the Member of my region raised the first alarm of the concerns about students of all ages having to study and learn in close quarters. Later, in the 16thAssembly, the previous Member for Nunakput said in the House, “at Mangilaluk School we are seriously over crowded.

Mangilaluk School desperately needs an extension to accommodate growing needs of the community.” Now here we are in the 18thAssembly and Tuktoyaktuk's population has continued to grow over the past five years with the number of children and young people aged zero to 24 either holding steady and, in some age groups, even growing. Junior kindergarten also means more students, Mr. Speaker. The community will be well-served by plans for a new school and knowing how long these projects take, Mr. Speaker, the time to start is now. I'll have questions for the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment .

Quyanainni, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Highway Rescue Services

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R.J. Simpson

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I want to discuss a subject that's been a sore point with the Town of Hay River for quite some time: the provision of highway rescue services. Highway rescue services involve the extraction of victims from accident scenes and the transport of victims to medical centres.

The governments of the Yukon and British Columbia have assumed the responsibility for providing these services. In Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, and Ontario the provinces regulate highway rescue through legislation. In the NWT, however, the responsibility for highway rescue is stuck in a perpetual grey area. As far as I've been able to ascertain, no single entity in the territory is responsible for providing this service and, as a result, no one funds it adequately.

A report by MACA in 2006 identified this as an ongoing issue. As a frequent observer of town council meetings in Hay River, I can tell you that it is still an ongoing issue. Despite the lack of funding, the Town of Hay River has taken on the responsibility of servicing 800 km of highway in the South Slave and sometimes into Northern Alberta. Highway rescue vehicles, tools, and training are an added expense beyond what is needed for in-town ground ambulance services. This means that the town incurs higher operational costs and higher recurring capital costs.

Some funding for ambulance service does exist, the town receives about $50,000 annually from the health authority and MACA. However, that is for in-town ground ambulance service. The pot of money MACA does have for available highway rescue is slated to be cut in this budget from $400,000 to $185,000.

To summarize the situation, the GNWT has absolved itself of providing or paying for highway rescue services because they know that the good people of Hay River aren't prepared to let people die on the highway. That, Mr. Speaker, is no way to govern. In addition, it appears that the recommendations from the 2006 MACA report haven't been implemented in the 10 years since. According to the government's business plan, the public safety division of MACA is leading an interdepartmental committee composed of Justice, Transportation, and Health to develop a strategy to support delivery of this service.

I'll have questions for the Minister of MACA to see if in fact any progress has been made on this lingering issue and how we can move forward. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Highway Rescue Services

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Member's Statements. Member for Frame Lake .

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911 Emergency Telephone Services

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Merci, Monsieur le President.

Recently in my riding a long-time business was destroyed by fire that might have been controlled by the presence of a modern emergency reporting system. I'm talking about 911, as this Assembly has been discussing 911 for over 10 years.

In the case of the recent fire, media reports indicated that a person new to Yellowknife called 911 to report a fire only to find out there was no such thing. In desperation, the person actually drove to the fire hall to report the fire, but by then it was too late. As I said, 911 has been studied up and down through the terms of at least three Assemblies. The most comprehensive report published in 2015 indicates that a Yellowknife based 911 service could be set up for about $600,000 and run annually at a net cost, after service levies, of about $250,000.

This isn't nickels, but territory-wide rapid-response coverage for about a quarter million dollars after the start-up fee seems good value for money.

While we talk as much as we like about how people should learn the emergency numbers and keep them handy, the very existence of 911 call services worldwide shows that just doesn't work, so what is it going to take? The NWT Association of Communities has had a standing resolution on its books since 2009 urging “the GNWT to adopt a phased approach for implementation, beginning in the regions with pre-existing telephone switching infrastructure suitable for 911 services.”

Talks on the introduction of the service have taken place between MACA and the City of Yellowknife as recently as this year. Both parties are still supportive of the service introduction, subject of course to the availability of funds. Creation of 911 capacity would involve the City expanding its current dispatch area at the fire hall and hiring additional staff. Both parties agree a phased roll-out of the service is preferable, starting in Yellowknife and then adding communities. A roll-out to the six tax-based communities, plus Behchoko, would represent three-quarters of the territorial population.

What is clear is that we need the introduction of some service, but before another tragedy. I'll have questions for the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs . Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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911 Emergency Telephone Services

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' Statements. Member for Deh Cho .

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2016 Morel Mushroom Harvest

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would be remiss if I did not talk about mushrooms at least once this session. Mr. Speaker, morel mushrooms attracted a lot of visitors to my riding last year. People from all around the world flocked to the Deh Cho to pick mushrooms. Never before had we seen so many people camped along the road north of Providence and in the bush.

Mr. Speaker, this is the second summer after the forest fires of 2014. Are we expecting a better crop of mushrooms this summer? A buyer has settled in the bush past the Chan Lake Tower and vehicles are parked alongside the road toward the North Arm. I understand there are more harvesters around Kakisa as well. My constituents tell me they had to install last year's signage so that people wanting to pick morel mushrooms do not stampede into the community unexpectedly.

Mr. Speaker, my constituents are concerned about this year's harvest. CBC North recently ran a story on the harvest thus far. It seems prices are down from last year. Other parts of Canada experienced forest fires too and there could be a large supply of mushrooms this year. Residents do not know much about what we expect the morel mushroom activity in the Northwest Territories to be. ITI has not contacted the community. My constituents tell me that when they talk to ITI, the staff people can't answer their questions.

Mr. Speaker, it seems the GNWT is taking a laissez faire approach. The draft Forest Management Act, which should have included a provision respecting non-timber forest products to help regulate vegetation, such as mushrooms, was not included, thus sent back to ENR for further study. Mr. Speaker, while the people of the Deh Cho are working on governing our land area, the people of Kakisa feel there is no respect for what they are working toward. KTFN leaders are always dealing with conflicts, particularly related to land and resource use.

They are aggravated by the absence of mechanisms to legally recognize Indigenous rights and title, and an apparent disregard for the Dehcho Interim Measures Agreement.

Mr. Speaker, we understand the interest in the mushroom harvest and, to a certain extent, appreciate the opportunity and activity it brings to our region. But as a government, we must address some serious underlying issues around land use and the logistics of having so many people camping in the area. We must respect the rights of First Nations people, protect the land of the NWT, and respond effectively so Northerners can benefit from this industry and First Nations' land interests are upheld. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Daycare Support Programming In The Sahtu

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I'd like to discuss later and address my questions to the Minister of ECE with respect to daycare facilities and daycare homes. As you know, these facilities and supports really play a vital service to the working class families and there's a growing need in the riding that I represent. I'm very encouraged by the Minister's statements of yesterday on the restructuring or redesigning to eliminate some of the red tape related in processing subsidies to that service. I'll have questions later, Mr. Speaker, thank you.

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Daycare Support Programming In The Sahtu

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Jackson Lafferty

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The Passing Of Jim Schaefer

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to take this opportunity to tell the House about a man who has played an important role in the lives of many in the Northwest Territories.

My uncle, Jim Schaefer, was born April 7, 1937 and spent much of his early years on the trap line. He spent the early years of his adult life working for Northern Transportation Company Limited and Northwest Territories Power Corporation, travelling to many communities up and down the valley and east to Gjoa Haven, building generator stations and putting up power lines.

Jim met his wife in Fort Resolution and raised his family in Fort Smith. In 1966 Jim became a journeyman electrician, earning his certificate in Fort Smith, and being only the 11thperson in the North to get his certificate. From there, he started his own business in the early 1970s. Jim was not only a hard-working entrepreneur and a dedicated family man, he was involved in the community, particularly in sports like broomball, baseball, and curling. The latter he excelled in, going to the Canadian Brier twice. Jim was also heavily involved in the local fire department and was a two-time winner of the Canadian Firefighters Curling Championship in his four trips to the national competition.

Mr. Speaker, his accolades didn't stop there. He was involved in the Metis Association, Caribou Management Boards, Hunters and Trappers Association, and youth justice. At the age of 41 Jim wanted to reconnect with the land, and went back to trapping for five years while teaching his children to live off the land. When he returned, he started his business up again, a better man.

He then became Chief of the Salt River First Nation and played an integral role in the signing of its Treaty Settlement Agreement in 2002. He was also the first president of what was once the NWT Hunters and Trappers Association and a committed advocate for trappers' rights.

Mr. Speaker, Jim was a family man through and through, and in the later years of his life, he spent much of it with family, especially his grandchildren whom he loved dearly. He never recovered from the loss of his wife Edna of 52 years, who passed away in 2014 from cancer. On June 2, 22 months after he lost his life partner, he also succumbed to cancer. Jim lived life to its fullest and has left us all with memories that we will cherish. He helped build the Northwest Territories we know today and, for that, we are all grateful. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Passing Of Jim Schaefer

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Our condolences to the family as well. Members' statements. Item 4, reports of standing and special committees. Item 5, returns to oral questions. Item 6, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Hay River North .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

R.J. Simpson

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to recognize my parents, Rocky Simpson and Betty Lyons, citizens of Hay River and constituents actually of Hay River South. Thank you, Mr. Speaker

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Hay River South .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Wally Schumann

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I too would like to recognize Betty and Rocky Simpson from Hay River South. Welcome.

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Jackson Lafferty

Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Item 7, acknowledgements. Member for Nahendeh .

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Acknowledgement 6-18(2): Retiring Staff From Echo Dene School

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Mr. Speaker, I rise today to acknowledge the retirement of three individuals from Echo Dene School in Fort Liard: Kiatch Nahanni, who has taught for 30 years in the Dehcho; Dianne Nelson, who has taught 29 years in the NWT system and 14 years at the Echo Dene School; and her husband, Kevin Nowoselski, has 29 years within the NWT system and 14 years at the Echo Dene School. All three teachers have been great supporters of youth in the community and have done a great job impacting the youth, whether it's in the school or personal life. They will be sadly missed. I wish them all the best on their next adventure. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Acknowledgement 6-18(2): Retiring Staff From Echo Dene School

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Acknowledgements. Item 8, oral questions. Member for Nunakput .

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Question 174-18(2): Mangilaluk School In Tuktoyaktuk

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Herbert Nakimayak

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, earlier I spoke about the state of Mangilaluk School in Tuktoyaktuk, and my questions are for the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment .

Mr. Speaker, my first question is: in the past the department has said that Mangilaluk School was not at capacity and, yet, we are seeing overcrowding. How does the department evaluate school capacity, Mr. Speaker? Quyanainni.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 174-18(2): Mangilaluk School In Tuktoyaktuk

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We look at the capacity and the utilization rates, enrolment rates, we take everything into account, space needed in the classrooms to allow the students and the teachers to do their work in a safe environment. Mangilaluk School: it is a priority for our department and moving forward with the capital plans in the fall. We did just go do a tour in the Beaufort Delta and Tuk was one of the communities we visited. We did speak to the leadership there, we spoke with the education council chair as well as staff and faculty, and we did get a tour of the school and we do understand the issues that are with Mangilaluk School. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 174-18(2): Mangilaluk School In Tuktoyaktuk

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Herbert Nakimayak

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, my second question to the Minister is: when was the last time the Mangilaluk School's capacity was evaluated?

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Question 174-18(2): Mangilaluk School In Tuktoyaktuk

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

As I mentioned, the Mangilaluk School is on our priority list. We did go and do a needs assessment of the school. What we're looking at proposing is an additional 1,000 square

metres

in order to respond with our capital standards and criteria for NWT schools. We're also looking at upgrading to existing program areas to accommodate current program requirements and also do a mid-life technical retrofit that'll include an energy-efficient exterior building envelope.

As everything that comes through the government, whether it's hospitals, schools, roads, it does have to go through a capital budget review, and that's going to happen in the fall. We are going to be working with the Member to try to see how we can get this on the books for Tuk. Initially, when the school was built, it was built for kindergarten to grade nine. Now, they've started offering more courses, specifically junior kindergarten as well as the secondary schools. Now we've got to look at reviewing it for junior kindergarten to grade 12, and that's what we plan on doing and hopefully get these in the capital budget in the fall time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 174-18(2): Mangilaluk School In Tuktoyaktuk

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Herbert Nakimayak

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, that answered my last and final question. More of a comment and I look forward to working with the Minister on this.

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Question 174-18(2): Mangilaluk School In Tuktoyaktuk

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. I'll take that as a comment. Oral questions. Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh .

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Question 175-18(2): Reduction Of Fire Fighting Crews

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Marsi cho, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in my Member's statement I talked about the reduction of crew sizes for firefighters across the territory. I'd like to ask the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources questions. Mr. Speaker, can the Minister advise me how the overall crew configuration comes along with no actual job reductions? However, looking at it from a constituency point of view, there appears to be job reductions not only in one community of Fort Resolution, but I understand in Lutselk'e as well. I'd like to know where those positions have gone to, whether they have been amalgamated into other positions in the community or if they've left the community. Thank you.

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Jackson Lafferty

Minister of Environment and Natural Resources .

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Question 175-18(2): Reduction Of Fire Fighting Crews

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As the department anticipated this, we did a review a while back, a couple of years, on where we were going with fire crews. Over the last two fire seasons we've gone to basically having four four-man crews there with casual staff hired in these positions. We're still anticipating hiring these two individuals as casuals. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 175-18(2): Reduction Of Fire Fighting Crews

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

I didn't hear that very last part of the response. I'll continue on with my questions. Mr. Speaker, can the Minister explain why positions were cut from small communities where seasonal and casual employees have no other options to find employment in the small communities?

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Question 175-18(2): Reduction Of Fire Fighting Crews

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

Upon doing the review of the fire crews for the Northwest Territories, we changed from a five-man crew to a four-man crew and redistributed the resources territory-wide, and what the Member is saying is not totally accurate. We went from 28 crews to 36 crews across the Northwest Territories, and have added additional crews to a couple of communities, I think in Tsiigehtchic and Wekweeti.

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Question 175-18(2): Reduction Of Fire Fighting Crews

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, when the GNWT lays off positions or employees there's a process that help them identify new jobs where P1s have been eliminated. In situations where only the P1 is eliminated, whether it be filled by a casual or a seasonal employee, then that person that's impacted is the only one that has to deal with it. We need to go the extra mile to try to find positions. Can the Minister advise me what efforts were made to minimize the impacts on the change of the crew configuration so that people that used to be in those positions, maybe casuals, are given opportunities within that department or with other departments within the community? Thank you.

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Question 175-18(2): Reduction Of Fire Fighting Crews

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In an attempt to minimize the impact of changes to the communities like Fort Resolution, ENR over the last two years, like I've said, has gone to only permanently hiring four out of the five-man crews. The fifth person for each crew has been hired on an as-and-when-needed basis as a casual for the summer.

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Question 175-18(2): Reduction Of Fire Fighting Crews

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Jackson Lafferty

Oral questions. Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh .

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Question 175-18(2): Reduction Of Fire Fighting Crews

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to ask the Minister if he can look at ways to ensure that PYs are restored in the communities. If the fifth firefighter in these communities is actually still there and still working as a casual, then that must mean that there's a function for the individual. I'd like to know if the Minister can restore the PY, whether it be in forest management or other areas that may be of interest to the casual or other areas within ENR mandate or other areas within the GNWT mandate to ensure that those PYs are not lost.

Because they're not filled with actual positions, I can't really say employees, but it's just as important that the PYs remain in the small communities. Thank you.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 175-18(2): Reduction Of Fire Fighting Crews

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I understand the concern about PY positions in the communities. Moving forward, we will do what's deemed to fit the ENR's business practice as best as possible and we will continue to look at hiring as many people as possible in the communities as the fire season event moves on in the current fiscal year. We will try to hire more people, as needed, and we will be committed to that. ENR is always committed to hiring as many fire personnel in the communities as we can. I look forward to maybe discussing it with the Member. Thank you.

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Question 175-18(2): Reduction Of Fire Fighting Crews

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The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Oral questions. Member for Yellowknife Centre .

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Question 176-18(2): Increases To Income Assistance Food Allowance

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as I mentioned in my statement, households that depend on government for income are at greater risk of being hungry than other households with low income. The government has acknowledged this fact by raising the food allowance portion of income assistance. Can the Minister of Education, Culture, and Employment confirm his commitment to follow through with increases to the food allowance in the next two fiscal years? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 176-18(2): Increases To Income Assistance Food Allowance

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Member's correct in her Member's statement, the last time we increased the income assistance was on April 1, 2015. We're always reviewing our programs and services that we offer to our most vulnerable people and the ones that really need some of the basic needs.

I did field questions on this topic last week. Just some extra information out there. On April 1stwe did increase it by 20 per cent, 2015. We also mentioned that in the Yukon they're looking at indexing, so we've got the department looking at what they're doing in the Yukon to see if there's any way we can reflect that. Obviously, there would be some changes that we would need to make within our regulations with the new announcement of the federal funding with the child tax, and we're trying to adjust those so that our low- to moderate-income families will see a significant increase.

We have gone over those numbers yesterday during the business main estimates review in Committee of the Whole. We're working with the Members and we're also looking at what other northern jurisdictions are doing. Thank you.

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

I thank the Minister for that response. I just want to confirm with him that in fact there is a commitment to follow through with the increases scheduled earlier to the food allowance under income assistance.

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

As we went through our business planning review, as well as our main estimates review, and with the regulations, when those go through we're going to see a significant increase to our low to moderate-families, which the Member is bringing forward with the NWT Child Benefits and how we're going to be assessing those and addressing those now. There will be an increase to our families that have low income to moderate income. It's just going to take time, as we have to go through the regulations. We will see those increases as we move forward.

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you to the Minister for that answer. Mr. Speaker, what efforts is the territorial government making to ensure that Nutrition North becomes a more useful program in the North for providing nutritious and affordable food? Thank you.

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

We're always working with other departments on how we can address some of the shortfalls in some of our communities, such as high cost of food. In 2014, we did develop a Northern Market Basket Measure. Every jurisdiction in the Northwest Territories does have a market basket measure, but it doesn't reflect what the costs are living in the Northwest Territories. We work with Yukon and we worked with Nunavut to create a Northern Market Basket Measure. We're using those statistics to reflect how we fund our income assistance. We’re also working with our other departments and with adjusting some of the high costs of food prices in the Northwest Territories. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Thanks to the Minister for that answer. What I'm wondering in particular with Nutrition North, which is a federal program, is whether the territorial government is taking a role in trying to make Nutrition North a more useful program? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Of course, Nutrition North has been a concern for all Northerners in the last few years. We want to see how we can work with our federal partners to make the program more feasible here in the northern communities, so definitely working with our federal counterparts to address those issues.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 177-18(2): Addressing Homelessness In Yellowknife

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday I asked questions to the Minister responsible for Homelessness about the Housing First plan. Unfortunately, the information we learned was incorrect. Housing First in the city of Yellowknife has made a commitment to house one person by the end of August 2016 this year, and 20 people over the life of the project, not just one person. I am wondering if today the Minister can explain why inaccurate information was provided to this House. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 177-18(2): Addressing Homelessness In Yellowknife

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you for that comment about the 20 people and another in 2019. The City of Yellowknife has actually put forward in a meeting with the city

councillors

and the Yellowknife MLAs that they would be piloting one person this fiscal year. They also put it in their June 3rdin the media that they would be housing one person within this fiscal year to begin with. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think it's important that if this government is to invest in a real solution for homelessness, that we have a full understanding of all the options available to us. Housing First remains a viable option, and there's a big difference between building new shelter spaces and empowering people with their own homes. I'm wondering if the Minister today will commit to reconsider her plan and commit to matching the current funding for Housing First so we can address more of the critically chronic homeless who are in need and using 51 per cent of our emergency services.

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Question 177-18(2): Addressing Homelessness In Yellowknife

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

The Minister is committed to addressing homelessness. We have put forward our agreement to partner with the city of Yellowknife within their Housing First model of housing one person, hopefully within the next three years to get 20 people in.

However, coming from this community, I know that if we were to only sit back and support only one agency providing one model, it probably would not be the most efficient use of our funds. To house one person within the community would not make a significant dent, and the other model would provide for 30 people. I must say that the other model is following a Housing First model as well, because Housing First does not only belong to the city.; It belongs to whoever wants to use it. We won't be building… Even though the shelters will be using it, the location of the units will be separate.

There is already one agency within Yellowknife, actually, that does use the model that we are looking at, and that is the YWCA within their Rockhill. They have done this model for many years and they have shown it is successful, so if we have a model that is successful within our community, why would we not duplicate that so we can get more people into housing?

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

Certainly, the Minister is an expert in this field, and I respect her expertise, but I also am a Yellowknifer and I know that this problem is only getting worse, and when you look at the evidence-tested, proven methods that have worked across the country, Housing First is a clear model, a specific model that gives consumer choice and empowers people. That's what we are talking about today. I am wondering if the Minister will clarify her comments yesterday that this plan to expand the shelters to house 30 people. Construction will begin in the summer is what the Minister said yesterday.

Can the Minister clarify if these are new beds or homeless spaces that are being constructed, or if it is existing beds and they are providing more dollars to the shelters to care for more people?

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

As most Members may be aware, once the move goes into Housing First, then we are at risk of actually jeopardizing the emergency shelters. Emergency shelters will always be a necessity within the homeless population, especially in the North because we have such a transient population, so if I was to go out and put every single person into a house today, by tomorrow, perhaps even this evening, we would have more people.

My obligation is as we move forward in the Housing First model, we need to make sure that our emergency shelters are sustainable, and through that, if they are only based on the amount that they are given now per bed night, then that is not a sustainable model. The second part of his question, will these be extra funding to the emergency shelters? The money will not go into the emergency shelter component. We are looking at totally different spaces for the shelters, and similar, I will again now use the agency that has showed the success within our community.

The YWCA does have a family violence shelter, and separate from that, they have the Rockhill apartments, which is again a successful model of housing families. We are looking at a similar model to house men and females so that these shelters are sustainable and that Housing First is actually a model we are using, so totally separate from the emergency shelter, but within the same facilities that provide those services. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To clarify, I don't think this is an and/or solution we need to look at. Shelters serve a very important role. Housing First is a separate model. Both are equally important, and it's about being compassionate. Everything costs money, of course, but we need to think about the compassion and supporting Northerners and empowering them to make positive choices. That's what we are talking about today with Housing First. It's a proven model that works, gets people back on their feet, and solves a real problem in our community, in our capital city.

That is what I am fighting for, and I hope the Minister is hearing me loud and clear and seeing the good work the city of Yellowknife is doing.

Just to clarify, will new construction be going on to create these new 30 spaces? Is it new construction or is it using the existing space? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

Compassion is really important within the homeless population. I do adhere to the Housing First model, but I also recognize that within the North, we have other models that are successful, so I give credit to that. It's important to have a northern perspective on northern solutions.

The final part to that question is absolutely yes, the units that we are going to be building for the semi-independent living will not be in the emergency shelter area. They are totally separate from the emergency shelter, and they will be independent units for homeless people, for chronic homeless people.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 178-18(2): Establishing An Office Of The Ombudsman

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Justice , who conveniently is also the Minister responsible for Public Engagement and Transparency . Mr. Speaker, as I mentioned in my Member’s statement, transparency and openness has been an overarching theme of political life in the NWT through the past Assembly and last fall's election. This Assembly has taken steps to recognize and address those themes.

One important way we did that is enshrined the commitment 5.3.11 of the mandate document that identifies a commitment to developing legislation within two years to establish an Office of an Ombudsman. Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the Minister if the Department of Justice has begun the work referenced in that commitment to develop the legislation to establish an independent parliamentary office of the ombudsman. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 178-18(2): Establishing An Office Of The Ombudsman

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Louis Sebert

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This government is committed to fulfilling the priorities developed by the 18thAssembly, including exploring options for the creation of the position of ombudsman. The Department of the Executive and the Department of Justice are working together to develop options for the establishment of this position. Thank you.

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Mr. Speaker, I would like to go on with my questions, but quite frankly, I have to stop and ask for clarification from the Minister. Can the Minister elaborate a little bit more for us on what exploring options actually consists of?

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Louis Sebert

Thebacha

I am pleased to do so, Mr. Speaker. There is work underway to develop materials to support a discussion by the caucus. We are having a summer meeting where this is one of the issues that is to be discussed, so we are exploring options. There are many different models in Canada. As the Member quite correctly pointed out, there are nine provinces, all of them except Prince Edward Island, I think, and the Yukon that have developed this position. However, the position is different in every jurisdiction. We need to look at options and decide which models we wish to follow. Thank you.

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Question 178-18(2): Establishing An Office Of The Ombudsman

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I understand that a draft Ombudsman Act was prepared on behalf of the Members of the 17thAssembly and was tabled in this House. I think in that effort, there were probably a lot of options considered. Can the Minister advise whether the department intends to use that act to inform this work? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Louis Sebert

Thebacha

Yes. There was a draft proposal which was prepared in the last Assembly which I had the opportunity of reading, but I believe that the first step would be for us all to decide which model we wish to follow, and at that point, legislation will be brought forward.

As I mentioned earlier, there are many different models. There is the Quebec model for one, which is a very extensive, expensive model, and others that are more limited. The cost has been found to be between perhaps half a million dollars at the minimum and multi-millions of dollars at the maximum. It's to be determined whether we will follow the model, and I haven't reviewed that draft piece of legislation lately, but that is perhaps one of the models that we may follow, but that is yet to be determined. Thank you.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and what I gather from the Minister is that there is a lot of work yet to be done. Mr. Speaker, how will the Minister commit to keeping Members of the Assembly apprised of the progress that this legislation is required? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Louis Sebert

Thebacha

Well, of course part of that will be determined by our discussions this summer, and of course, I will keep the House apprised. We will keep the House apprised as the legislation moves forward. We are hoping to look at a series of options in the summer, choose the best option, and that would be reflected in the legislation that we will bring to this House. Thank you.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 179-18(2): Managing The Morel Mushroom Harvest

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are for the Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment . As I stated earlier this afternoon, my constituents are concerned with the lack of information on this year's harvest from ITI. How does the department plan to engage with the communities to help manage the activity in the Deh Cho this year regarding the mushroom harvest? Mahsi.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 179-18(2): Managing The Morel Mushroom Harvest

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The activities associated with morel mushrooms don't change from year to year. Last year, we spent a lot of time working with the communities developing materials for the communities and to assist in working with the mushroom pickers. Our regional staff have had several casual conversations with chiefs in the region, and we are willing to assist anyone interested in morel mushroom harvesting. We have brochures that guide us to morels in digital form and print as needed. Right now as the Member has stated, it is too early to say how the harvest will go this year. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. How is ITI building on the lessons learned from last year's mushroom harvest? Mahsi.

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We certainly learned a lot over the years. The goal of ITI's work last season was to raise awareness among Northwest Territories residents and entrepreneurs to the economic potential presented by the morel mushrooms harvest. Accentuating the success of this initiative is the fact that $1.7 million of the $1.9 million generated in cash flow stayed in the Northwest Territories last season, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 179-18(2): Managing The Morel Mushroom Harvest

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

The Department of Environment and Natural Resources plans to introduce new forest management and legislation during the life of this assembly. How is ITI involved in this important work in terms of using our forest resources industry?

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Question 179-18(2): Managing The Morel Mushroom Harvest

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Last year in the 17thAssembly, we were planning to amend our regulations so that it would provide for morel mushrooms. We ran out of time, so this year it will be provided for by ENR through the updating of the Forest Act. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 180-18(2): Highway Rescue Services

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R.J. Simpson

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I mentioned earlier, I have questions for the Minister of MACA regarding highway rescue services. I direct my questions to him because MACA is heading the interdepartmental committee that's looking into this issue.

I understand it is a complicated issue. MACA can say it's Health's problem. The department can say it's the authorities’ problem, so I'm not trying to place blame. I just want to get some clarification on these issues so we can figure out how to move forward. My first question is: who actually has the legislative responsibility to provide highway rescue services in the Northwest Territories? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 180-18(2): Highway Rescue Services

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs .

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Question 180-18(2): Highway Rescue Services

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, within the GNWT, there is no single department that has legislative responsibility to provide ground ambulance service for residents. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 180-18(2): Highway Rescue Services

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R.J. Simpson

Hay River North

I guess this responsibility has been deferred to the communities. I was wondering: what formula does MACA use to determine what funding will be allocated to communities based on the amount of highway they have to service?

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Question 180-18(2): Highway Rescue Services

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

The department… We provide annual funding for community public infrastructure based on which community governments may use to procure equipment to support highway rescue and ground ambulance services beyond their municipal boundaries. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 180-18(2): Highway Rescue Services

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R.J. Simpson

Hay River North

It sounds like the general money provided to communities is what they're supposed to use to provide the service. Speaking of the interdepartmental committee, I was wondering if the Minister could sort of elaborate on some of the work that they have done and how far along they are.

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Question 180-18(2): Highway Rescue Services

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, the committee was formed in 2012. It had representatives from the Department of Justice, Department of Health and Social Services, MACA. They were formed to implement a strategy to strengthen our community-based ambulance and highway rescue services. The strategy actually resulted in $1.63 million being provided to community government to support their community-based ground ambulance and highway rescue services, including upgrades, major repairs, or enhancements to existing mobile equipment or the purchase of new mobile equipment.

Training which we found was going to be one of the major challenges for a lot of the communities, and we have taken steps to enhance our training programs to the communities so they can be a little more qualified at being first responders. There is a lot of work that has been done, and I think the next step is to try to identify the funding or find a way where we can provide the service or make it quite clear who is responsible for the service.

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Question 180-18(2): Highway Rescue Services

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Hay River North .

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Question 180-18(2): Highway Rescue Services

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R.J. Simpson

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It sounds like the committee might be trying to focus on some legislative changes to identify who is actually responsible, which would be a nice movement ten years after those recommendations were made.

My question is: what can I do to help the Minister move this process along? Is there information I can bring back to the town? Is there some way that we can collaborate? Because Hay River does have 800

kilometres…

it must have one of the largest stretches of highways, so it does affect the town quite a bit. What can we do moving forward? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 180-18(2): Highway Rescue Services

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, there are a number of things we could do to move forward on this. One thing I would like to see is we hear from the communities that it's costing them money and use of their equipment and that to get people out on the highway to rescue those that are in need, and one thing we know about the North is nobody is going to say no to anyone that is in need, so they will go there.

What I would like to see is justification for the money that they say that they are spending going out, and then also, we need to work as a Legislative Assembly to try and meet some of our fiscal challenges so we can free up more money to put towards initiatives such as this, so there is a number of work we can do, some work we could do, and I will commit to the Member that from my part, I will see how we can move this forward, because the Member is absolutely correct.

This has been something that's been on the books for about ten years, and we hear about it every time we attend the NWT Association of Communities annual general meeting. I will do my part to try and move this initiative forward, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 180-18(2): Highway Rescue Services

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 181-18(2): Program Changes For Daycare Facilities And Day Homes

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Early, I mentioned that I was going to address the homecare and daycare facilities here to the Minister responsible for Education, Culture and Employment . My first question is to the Minister. After reading and listening to the presentation yesterday, there are changes underway. There is restructuring and reintroduction of new subsidies, so is it sounds like the program for the day home and daycare is being revised. Can the Minister explain when is that going to be done, and what are the main highlights or the main principles of the new program? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 181-18(2): Program Changes For Daycare Facilities And Day Homes

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, and I'm very glad the Member brought some his concerns with the daycares in the Sahtu, and following up to the statement that I gave in the House yesterday, we're looking at the fall in October to have these all put back into place, and it is so our daycares can actually sustain themselves. There is attendance-based review, but also just funding that is going into utilities, the costs and maintenance, rent, and mortgage of these daycares. Those will all be coming into effect in October, and I look forward to seeing the rollout of this program and we can start providing early childhood programs in the communities of the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

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Question 181-18(2): Program Changes For Daycare Facilities And Day Homes

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

One of the changes that I have heard is a concern back home, and I'm hoping and I'm getting the feeling that it is going to be in this new program. Can the Minister confirm that housing units will be made available to the day home that operators live in, to turn that into a day home facility?

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 181-18(2): Program Changes For Daycare Facilities And Day Homes

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

That's a very complex situation. Anybody who is in housing and wants to provide daycare is in day home programs doesn't currently fall under our criteria, and in fact, it would be almost starting up a business within the housing program. It's not currently in the criteria. I don't believe we will be looking at that as an option, but we will see, if there is, what other options that we can provide in the Sahtu. I know we have gotten some requests from members in the communities that would like to open up that daycare or a day home that live in public housing units, and right now, that just doesn't fall under our criteria.

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Question 181-18(2): Program Changes For Daycare Facilities And Day Homes

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

Can the Minister clarify on yesterday's presentation his statement when, and I quote, we are also changing our approach to operators in government owned buildings? What is the rationale behind that statement?

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Question 181-18(2): Program Changes For Daycare Facilities And Day Homes

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Yes. We do have daycare operators in some of our government buildings. Currently, we give them funding of up to 50 per cent. Under the new changes, we will be subsidizing their rents, mortgage, or their rent to 75 per cent. We already offer it to people that are doing it in their own buildings or nongovernment buildings. We should be having it equal right across the board, so any daycares that are operating in our government buildings, we will be subsidizing up to 75 per cent. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 181-18(2): Program Changes For Daycare Facilities And Day Homes

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My last question is: I ask the Minister to provide me with a briefing so I can advertise and market this new service this year within the community I represent. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 181-18(2): Program Changes For Daycare Facilities And Day Homes

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Yes, Mr. Speaker, we will be glad to provide a package for the Member. I know that we do have an early childhood consultant in the Sahtu region who has been working with various stakeholders to see what options we have to provide daycares in the community of Norman Wells. We will get that package to the Member, and maybe we will also see if we can set up a meeting with our early childhood consultant to see all the work that has been provided to the stakeholders and the options of possibly, if we can't find a building, looking at a day home that is not a public housing unit.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 182-18(2): 911 Emergency Telephone Services

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. My questions are for the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs , who holds responsibilities for community emergency measures and response. My first question to the Minister is: what are the phone numbers for the police and fire department and ambulance service in Yellowknife? Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 182-18(2): 911 Emergency Telephone Services

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Any prefix, you dial 1-1-1-,1 gets you the ambulance. Any prefix, you dial 2-2-2-2, gets you the fire department. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 182-18(2): 911 Emergency Telephone Services

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Almost full marks to the Minister. He just had them in the wrong order. Sorry, I didn't really mean that as a trick question, but I guess when we tried some of these numbers ourselves, any permutation, 873, 669 goes with 1-1-1, 2-2-2, and you get the emergency numbers in Yellowknife. But if you phone 911, you get a recording that says there is no 911 service. Who actually has control over that recorded message, and is it not possible to change it to provide clear information on just what numbers should be called?

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Question 182-18(2): 911 Emergency Telephone Services

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, I will commit to the Member that I will follow up on that and see if it could be redirected to the (inaudible). The Member is correct. 911 is an issue that's been in the Assembly, I think, for the last ten years. We are starting to hear more and more about it, and we had done some work on it, but I will go back to my commitment to the Member that we will look and see what we can do to try and forward them to the proper numbers.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

I thank the Minister for his response. I think it's an easy, quick thing that we might be able to do to at least start us down that path, so I appreciate his commitment there. I am wondering, though, about phased introduction of 911 service. One study proposal is to expand the dispatch centre already in place for the city of Yellowknife, and in fact, in the Yukon, Whitehorse introduced 911, and it was rolled out to the communities. Will the Minister consider that sort of option here for the Northwest Territories?

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Question 182-18(2): 911 Emergency Telephone Services

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, once the report was done and after exploring some options, it was determined that a phased-in implementation would probably work the best. There is some cost involved with that, and I believe there is some legislation that needs to be developed. Again, we have heard from the NWT Association of Communities and people across the territory, especially in the larger communities, the importance of this.

The Member said in his statement before, I think we have studied this to death, and now is the time to implement some of the recommendations of the study, and I will commit to doing my part as I did to the Member for Hay River North to try and see if we can do this. Part of the pressures that we're feeling on the financial side; if we can help alleviate some of those pressures so we are able to invest in some of the new initiatives. We heard some Members talking about the need for a new school. Everybody has a financial issue that they want resolved.

If we can alleviate some of the pressures of our current fiscal situation, then that will give us the opportunity to implement a lot of the new initiatives.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 182-18(2): 911 Emergency Telephone Services

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker, and once again, thanks to the Minister for that. Just stay tuned. I have a reply to the budget address a little later. There are some good ideas in there, I hope. I have one other idea that I'd like to pitch with the Minister. There was a recent court case where Bell lost a court case about non-existing 911 services, and that was recently a recent settlement coming out of that. Congratulati