Debates of Feb. 20th, 1992

This is page numbers 72 - 90 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was board .

Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

Giving Youth A Chance To Decide On Plebiscite

Executive Council's Version Of Consensus Government

Situation At Inuvik Regional Hospital

Baffin Art Shop

Absolute Discharge For Individual Convicted Of Sexual Assault

Ministers' Statement 12-12(2): Interim Report On The Commission For Constitutional Development

Ministers' Statement 13-12(2): Workers' Compensation Board And Hunters' And Trappers' Coverage

Contamination Of Liard And Mackenzie Rivers

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Question O92-12(2): Eggs Being Exported From NWT Without Proper Licence

Question O93-12(2): Hay River Egg Operation In Accordance With NWT Laws

Question O94-12(2): Public Works Minister's Commitment To Business Incentive Policy

Question O95-12(2): Environmental Meetings Between Bc And Nwt

Question O96-12(2): Finance Minister's Commitment To Business Incentive Policy

Question O97-12(2): Dpw Minister's Commitment To Development Of Business Incentive Policy

Question O98-12(2): Committee To Develop New Mining Safety Act

Question O99-12(2): Consultation With Elders In Elective Surgery

Question O100-12(2): Status Of Metis Health Benefits

Question O101-l2(2): Proposed Park For Lake Harbour

Question O102-12(2): Number Of Proposed Pys To Be Transferred To Power Corporation

Question O103-12(2): Dental Practitioners With Hiv Or Aids To Inform Patients

Question O104-12(2): Appointment Of Chairman, Mining Safety Committee

Question O105-12(2): Funding For Environmental Surveys, Sanikiluaq

Question O106-12(2): Quarterly Funding For Divisional School Boards

Question O107-12(2): Mining Safety Committee

Question O108-12(2): Performance Standards For Workers' Compensation Board

Question O109-12(2): Equality For All Northerners Under Northern Incentive Policy

Question O110-12(2): Minister's Support For Principle Of Absolute Preference

Question O111-12(2): Membership On Mining Safety Committee

Question W7-12(2): Northwest Territories Post-secondary Student Statistics

Question W8-12(2): Tendering Process In The Inuvik Region

Committee Report 2-12(2): Report Of The Standing Committee On Agencies, Boards And Commissions

Item 12: Tabling Of Documents

Item 15: Motions

Tabled Document 10-12(2) To Committee Of The Whole

Tabled Document 9-12(2) To Committee Of The Whole

First Reading Of Bill 15: Official Languages Act

Second Reading Of Bill 13: Financial Administration Act

Second Reading Of Bill 9: Insurance Act

Item 17: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Point Of Order

Item 19: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Item 21: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Hon. Titus Allooloo , Mr. Antoine , Mr. Arngna'naaq , Mr. Arvaluk , Hon. Michael Ballantyne , Mr. Bernhardt , Hon. Nellie Cournoyea , Mr. Dent , Mr. Gargan , Hon. Stephen Kakfwi , Mr. Koe , Mr. Lewis , Mrs. Marie-Jewell , Ms. Mike , Hon. Don Morin , Mr. Nerysoo , Hon. John Ningark , Hon. Dennis Patterson , Hon. John Pollard , Mr. Pudlat , Mr. Pudluk , Mr. Todd , Hon. Tony Whitford

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---Prayer

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

Page 72

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Good afternoon. Orders of the day for Thursday, February 20, 1992.

Item 2, Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Pudluk .

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Giving Youth A Chance To Decide On Plebiscite

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 72

Ludy Pudluk

High Arctic

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today is the day we should be making decisions that involve our young people. For example, it seems that we, the leaders, have put our young people aside and have forgot about them. As leaders we must realize that they will be taking over our jobs in shaping the government, and they want to be involved now. We have to give them the opportunity of being involved in running their future government. We have to let them know that they should stay in school to finish their education, so that they can take over and do the jobs of leaders and politicians.

When it is time to vote on the boundary plebiscite on May 4, we have to give our young people a chance to decide for themselves, because they are our future leaders and politicians.

There will come a time when those young people will come of age to be leaders and politicians. Let us give them this one-time chance to vote on the boundary plebiscite, and by giving them this chance we will gain their trust. I am sure that if we, as leaders, give them this chance, we will give them something to look forward to. Mr. Speaker, let us make good decision, today for the future of our young people. Thank you.

---Applause

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Giving Youth A Chance To Decide On Plebiscite

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 72

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Members' Statements. Mr. Lewis

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Executive Council's Version Of Consensus Government

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 72

Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Speaker, I rise today to express a real concern that I have about the current Executive Council's version of consensus government. I find it unbecoming that people who are in a leadership role should be asking ordinary Members to propose changes to government which are really only, at this point in time, clearly in the government's interest. If you are an ordinary Member, you have your own agenda of the things you want to do, and if it is the wish of the government to get rid of the Housing Corporation's board, they should go ahead and do it.

If they are convinced that is the thing to do and they can save money, and so on, that is the thing that you can do and you have the authority to do it because you are the government. If you want to get rid of the Denendeh Conservation Board because you think it is no good and it has no purpose, you should have the courage of your convictions to go ahead and do it and not ask ordinary Members to take the heat for things that you want to do yourself.

I can go on at great lengths on all the things that the government would like to do. It is a strange version of consensus government if the involvement that we are going to have is simply to be an instrument of somebody else's policy. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Executive Council's Version Of Consensus Government

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 72

Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Shame, shame!

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Executive Council's Version Of Consensus Government

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 72

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Members' statements. Mr. Koe .

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Situation At Inuvik Regional Hospital

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 72

Fred Koe

Inuvik

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to make some statements about the situation at the Inuvik Regional Hospital. In May of 1991, an

article appeared in the Inuvik Drum dealing with the concerns of employees at the Inuvik Regional Hospital, and how staff were concerned that certain management practices were affecting staff morale and staff turnover.

In the same month there was a letter in the Inuvik Drum from the regional vice-president of the Union of Northern Workers, again addressing the issue of staff morale. A subsequent issue in the Inuvik Drum, again in May 1991, ran an

article on how the chief executive officer of the Inuvik Regional Hospital had met with a committee of hospital workers to address their concerns. The staff were assured that these concerns would be looked after.

However, recent demonstrations by the hospital and Union of Northern Workers employees indicate that morale has not improved. It has, in fact, declined to the point where members of the community are getting concerned about the ability to receive proper health care and concern about the impact this morale problem will have on the level of care for themselves and their families. This decline in staff morale also has a ripple effect on the community as staff continue to change and are unhappy, and it has a serious social impact on the community. Employees are working in stressful environments and take this home with them, and it has a ripple effect at home.

Mr. Speaker, I have received over 80 letters and numerous phone calls from residents of Inuvik relating to this issue, and I will later today be tabling these letters in the House. Mahsi.

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Situation At Inuvik Regional Hospital

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 72

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Members' statements. Mr. Pudlat .

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Baffin Art Shop

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 72

Kenoayoak Pudlat

Baffin South

(Translation) Mr. Speaker, I have a concern from Baffin South. You all know there are some concerns arising from Baffin. Their concern is the art shop and if it is going to go bankrupt, because this is income for the people in Baffin. Their main concern is that, for example, there is a new facility that will be built in Baker Lake sometime this winter. Their main concern is, is it going to be an improvement for the social life of the community? This is also

my concern. So I stand this afternoon to express my concern. My question is, is there going to be an improvement? Perhaps my next question is that I think it is going to involve the whole community. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Baffin Art Shop

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 73

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Members' statements. Mr. Gargan .

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Absolute Discharge For Individual Convicted Of Sexual Assault

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 73

Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Mr. Speaker, several years ago I was charged with spousal assault in which the circumstances were that I did not commit any physical harm or any bodily injury, but I did push my wife, and for that I was charged with assault. In the

section under the Criminal Code on assault, the definition of assault varies from touching a person, brushing a person, to striking a person. The situation, Mr. Speaker, was that I did plead guilty to that. I did touch my wife.

But a situation this morning which I was quite disturbed to hear was when an individual that is a leader in his community and in his area was also convicted of touching a girl, I believe, and for that he did get charged, was found guilty, but had an absolute discharge. I think the difference between those two cases, Mr. Speaker, is that when I touch my wife I touch her in the right place and not in the wrong place. I do not see the situation to be any different in this case. It happened about eight years ago, but it was not cause at that time, nor should it be the cause today.

Leaders are expected to get away with doing things with the knowledge of the public. The judge says this person is guilty but he could go free. I do not believe in this kind of justice system, and I think we should get this point across to the public. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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Absolute Discharge For Individual Convicted Of Sexual Assault

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Members' statements. Mr. Kakfwi .

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Absolute Discharge For Individual Convicted Of Sexual Assault

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I would like to seek unanimous consent to go back to Ministers' statements.

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Absolute Discharge For Individual Convicted Of Sexual Assault

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Unanimous consent has been requested to return to Item 2, Ministers' statements. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Proceed, Mr. Kakfwi .

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Ministers' Statement 12-12(2): Interim Report On The Commission For Constitutional Development

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 73

Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Thank you. Mr. Speaker, last spring, a committee of political leaders developed terms of reference for a commission to develop a comprehensive constitutional proposal for a western territory in the event of the division of the Northwest Territories. Last July, this House affirmed the commission's terms of reference, appointed an additional member and appropriated funds to enable the commission to fulfill the first phase of its mandate.

The commission, chaired by Jim Bourque, with members Bertha Allen, George Braden, Les Carpenter, Richard Hardy and Francois Paulette, is making every effort to complete its complex and difficult task in a thorough, co-operative and timely fashion.

It has funded interested parties to facilitate their participation, conducted a round of community consultations, done research and expert consultation, and, above all, struggled together as a group to reconcile strongly held and sometimes contradictory views on what principles could form the basis of a constitution to serve all residents of a new western territory.

This morning, the commission released its interim report. The commission will now embark on a second round of community hearings to seek reactions from the public. Armed with this advice, it will complete a final and more detailed report by April 27. This will signal the end of the first phase of the commission's mandate.

I want to commend each commissioner for his and her effort, and I encourage them to maintain the goodwill and energy that they have displayed to see the project to completion. However, the commissioners are not alone in shouldering responsibility for success. The challenge now is for all of us --western MLAs, political leaders, and citizens of every community -- to examine carefully the recommendations of the commission, to discuss them openly and frankly but without rancour, and to help guide the commission toward a final report which could form the basis of a consensus among residents of the West for a constitution for a new territory. Thank you.

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Ministers' Statement 12-12(2): Interim Report On The Commission For Constitutional Development

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 73

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Ministers' statements. Mr. Patterson .

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Ministers' Statement 13-12(2): Workers' Compensation Board And Hunters' And Trappers' Coverage

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 73

Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, several years ago, the Legislative Assembly wanted to provide some form of special insurance coverage under the Workers' Compensation Board for those people who were full-time hunters and trappers. It was never intended to provide coverage for those people who only occasionally hunted, but the program would be designed for those who spent most of their working time hunting and trapping "professionally."

Mr. Speaker, copies of various original Hansard debates are now being distributed to all Members. These will show the discussions that took place at that time and the reasons for the coverage.

As a result of those debates, a program was developed in late 1987. The total cost of providing this insurance coverage was paid for by the government through the Department of Renewable Resources.

There were some problems in determining who would be eligible for the program. Normally, the salary of the worker is used to determine the level of coverage that the worker could receive. There is always a maximum level of benefits that can be received, and this is based on the YMIR, yearly maximum insurable remuneration. In 1988 the YMIR level was set at $40,000 and remains the same today.

Early in 1990 the WCB reviewed the program, and many meetings were held on all aspects of the program. The Department of Renewable Resources, among others, was involved in these discussions.

Since there was no such thing as a "salary level" for hunters and trappers, it was necessary to develop some criteria to determine who would be eligible for the program and to determine the level of benefits that a hunter would receive. It was obvious that new guidelines were needed that would be clear and fair to all. The WCB recognized that the guidelines would have to include not only the value of the furs taken but also the value of the country foods that were used to feed the hunter and his or her family members.

Following direction from cabinet, the WCB established policy guidelines in August of 1990 which took these values into account, and it was determined that in order to determine eligibility, the value of the furs harvested would be added to the value of the food used. The minimum level to be eligible for the program was set at $10,000 for a full-time harvester.

When a claim is received, the WCB will seek proof from the hunter or trapper that they meet or exceed the $10,000 level to be eligible for benefits. The benefits will not be based on the $10,000 but at 90 per cent of the YMIR in place at that time, less some reductions, such as income tax and Canada Pension Plan. Today a hunter would receive compensation or pension benefits based on the present YMIR of $40,000.

Information on the new guidelines was distributed across the Territories for the information of all full-time hunters and trappers. The WCB can also provide coverage for those persons who are not eligible for this coverage. Persons who have other sources of employment and pursue hunting and trapping only occasionally can purchase "personal optional protection coverage." At present this coverage costs four dollars per $100 of coverage. To purchase the full coverage of $40,000 would therefore cost $1600 per year.

Mr. Speaker, since we do not have staff in every region, it is difficult for the WCB alone to administer this type of coverage across the Territories. This is why it has been very helpful to have the active involvement of the Department of Renewable Resources in programs such as this.

We are also trying our best to develop policies and procedures that are fair to all, and thus the board continually reviews all of these policies and procedures with affected groups. At present, the WCB is continuing their reviews of the hunters' and trappers' program with the Department of Renewable Resources and other interested parties. Any suggestions from Members of this Assembly will be welcomed.

I do hope that the information session held today has assisted Members to better understand the operation of the Workers' Compensation Board. I would also point out that Members who are approached by constituents for information or assistance are welcome to raise their concerns with myself, my staff, or staff of the WCB itself. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Ministers' Statement 13-12(2): Workers' Compensation Board And Hunters' And Trappers' Coverage

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 74

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Ministers' statements. I wonder if I could ask that if Ministers have a statement to be made on a given date, if at all possible, that they could try to be here when the Ministers' statements are called. Otherwise the flow of the order of the House is disrupted. Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Antoine .

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Contamination Of Liard And Mackenzie Rivers

Revert To Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 74

Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have concerns about the Mackenzie and Liard Rivers. My constituency is in the middle of the confluence of the Liard River and the Mackenzie River. I was raised along the river and am very concerned about the river. About three years ago there were a lot of fish floating down the river in the middle of summer. There were fish such as suckers, arctic grayling, et cetera. Over the last couple of summers, we have not been able to catch arctic grayling. We call them bluefish. Last summer, I went to all the traditional fishing spots; however, I was not able to catch arctic grayling. We, in my area, are all concerned that something is going wrong with our river.

I spoke about this in December with regard to clear-cutting in British Columbia, and the possibility of environmental damage in that area. Recently, members of the Fort Simpson Dene Band travelled to northern Saskatchewan. They found out that there is an environmental process going on for the development of five more uranium mines. Presently, there are three uranium mines operating there. I am told that the rivers in that part of the country eventually flow into our part of the country.

We are concerned that any type of pollution that may be dumped into the river eventually makes its way into the Liard River or the Mackenzie River. I think everybody in the North should be concerned about this, especially the government.

Let it be known that we are concerned about it. I will be asking more questions later on in question period. Mahsi.

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Contamination Of Liard And Mackenzie Rivers

Revert To Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 74

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Patterson .

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Further Return To Question O91-12(2): Exact Amount Of Grants In Lieu Of Taxes To Larger Municipalities

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Page 74

Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a return to a question asked by Mrs. Marie-Jewell on February 19, 1992, on federal grants in lieu of property taxes. As of February 19, 1992, the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs estimated $4,503,517 of federal grants in lieu of property taxes as outstanding to the tax-based municipalities. The 1991 outstanding grants in lieu have been included in the above total. As all interim payments have not been received for 1990-91, the current total outstanding grants will be reduced substantially.

Mr. Speaker, I also have the outstanding grants in lieu of property taxes broken down by municipality. For Fort Simpson, the total outstanding is $324,221; Fort Smith, $451,232; Hay River, $229,282; Inuvik, $934,797; Iqaluit, $969,795; Norman Wells, total outstanding, $100,314; Yellowknife, $1,493,876; for a total outstanding of $4,503,517.

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Further Return To Question O91-12(2): Exact Amount Of Grants In Lieu Of Taxes To Larger Municipalities

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Page 74

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Returns to oral questions. I would like to welcome Mr. Gary Bohnet, President of the Metis Nation, to the Assembly today.

---Applause

Item 5, oral questions. Mr. Gargan .

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Question O92-12(2): Eggs Being Exported From NWT Without Proper Licence

Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 74

Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Mr. Speaker, I would like to direct my question to the Minister of Finance with regard to a process which was developed back in 1982 with regard to obtaining an egg quota for the Northwest Territories. Right now we have an illegal operation, as you know, in Hay River, in which eggs are being produced and transported down south with no licence or permits of any kind to allow that to happen. I would like to ask the Minister -- I think it is the Minister of Justice , Mr.

Speaker, I am not too sure -- but I would like to ask the Minister of Justice if he is aware of this illegal operation that is happening in Hay River, which is allowing the export of eggs from the Territories, and if there is any action that is going to be taken by this government on it.

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Question O92-12(2): Eggs Being Exported From NWT Without Proper Licence

Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 74

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Who would like to handle this one in the government? The Minister of Finance .

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Question O92-12(2): Eggs Being Exported From NWT Without Proper Licence

Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 74

John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, the Minister of Finance or the Minister of Economic Development -- I do not believe the Minister of Justice knows about any illegal operations, sir. We realize that there are two egg operations in Hay River, and it has been rumoured that some of those eggs are walking across the line into Alberta, sir, but I could not prove that.

With regard to the quota, we are not making very much progress in that area as well, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am sure that if there are some irregularities, that they would be merely unintentional, Mr. Speaker, because as everybody knows there is a discussion going on right now with regard to GATT, General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade, talks. There is talk of eliminating the system that controls egg marketing in Canada, so I would imagine that like Nelson, CEMA, Canadian Egg Marketing Association, would put their telescope to their blind eye in this regard. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question O92-12(2): Eggs Being Exported From NWT Without Proper Licence

Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 75

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

If I just could caution Members that right now, to the knowledge of this House, it is hypothetical; so unless this House becomes privy to some definitive facts, then I would caution the Member to be careful about asking a hypothetical question. Mr. Gargan .

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Question O93-12(2): Hay River Egg Operation In Accordance With NWT Laws

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Page 75

Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to direct my question to the Minister of Justice . I would like to ask the Minister whether or not he is aware that there is an egg operation in Hay River, and whether or not he is aware whether or not the operation is according to the laws of the Northwest Territories.

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, yes and no. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Mr. Speaker, the Minister's response is "yes and no". Is it yes or no?

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Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Patterson . Supplementary answer.

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yes, I am aware of egg operations in Hay River; no, I am not aware of illegal practices concerning those egg operations. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

I would like to thank the Minister for his response. Am I correct in saying that the operation that is happening in Hay River now is probably licensed to operate; they received an egg quota that was allocated to them from the Canadian Egg Marketing Board, and they also received export permits to ship eggs south?

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Michael Ballantyne

That was really two questions. Perhaps the Minister would like to handle the first question and then, perhaps, as his last supplementary Mr. Gargan could pose a second question. Mr. Patterson .

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, I am not sure who has the responsibility for licensing egg hatcheries, but I do not believe it falls within my responsibility.

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Michael Ballantyne

There is an open question, the first part of a two-question series. Would the Minister of Economic Development like to handle this one?

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John Pollard

Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, both operations in Hay River fall within the town boundaries of the municipality of Hay River. As far as I know, sir, they are both legally operating. The Northwest Territories does not have a quota with the Canadian Egg Marketing Association, CEMA, and, therefore, neither of those operations, to my knowledge, has quotas from CEMA. I would add, Mr. Speaker, that to my knowledge they do not have export permits. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Michael Ballantyne

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the Minister of Economic Development , if they do not have an export permit are they, then, selling the eggs only in the Northwest Territories?

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Michael Ballantyne

Minister of Economic Development , Mr. Pollard .

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John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, I know that you can buy those eggs pretty well anywhere in the Western Arctic. I assume they are selling the eggs into the Northwest Territories, Mr. Speaker, but I do not know for sure what their market area is. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

You have used up your supplementary allotment, Mr. Gargan . Oral questions. Mr. Todd .

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Question O94-12(2): Public Works Minister's Commitment To Business Incentive Policy

Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 75

John Todd

Keewatin Central

Mr. Speaker, during the last session the Minister of Public Works reaffirmed his commitment to develop a business incentive policy that allows only northern-owned and operated companies to bid on all government contracts in the Northwest Territories. This commitment was consistent with the Minister's support for a motion passed in this House on April 11, 1990, that directed the Executive Council to draft and implement such a policy. My question to the Minister of Public Works is this: Is the Minister still committed to implementing a policy that will allow only northern-owned and operated companies to bid on Government of the Northwest Territories' contracts?

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Michael Ballantyne

Minister responsible for the Department of Public Works, Mr. Morin .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am committed to developing a range of policies that will meet the

end of what we tried to achieve in the last Legislative Assembly; that is, to maximize local labour in contracts and help Northerners to develop businesses. I think we can accomplish that with training programs in the communities by increasing the business incentive policy that now exists and making sure that people follow the rules. Thank you.

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Michael Ballantyne

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could the Minister inform the House when we can expect to see the implementation of the policy consistent with the principles of "buy North", and "tender North" only?

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Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Morin .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. By this session.

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Michael Ballantyne

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Question O95-12(2): Environmental Meetings Between Bc And Nwt

Item 5: Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Last December I talked about the concerns of the people who live in Liard along the Liard River just 20 miles from the BC border. My concern is, will there be any meetings that are going to take place between the BC government and the Government of the NWT in regard to environmental problems that are going to be arising from the type of logging that they do in BC, which is clear-cutting? This is probably directed toward the Government Leader .

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Michael Ballantyne

Madam Government Leader .

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, a communique has been sent to the appropriate government people in the provinces to ask to be recognized and set up a meeting. We have been rather busy during the session, but we hope to do that.

In terms of the additional issue on uranium development, we have not sent that communication out yet, but that is being constructed now and we will be happy to give a copy to the honourable Member. However, we are committed to meet his request to try to co-ordinate the relationship with the provinces and the NWT when they are proposing or doing major development that will affect the communities and the Mackenzie River and Liard River.

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Question O96-12(2): Finance Minister's Commitment To Business Incentive Policy

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Page 76

John Todd

Keewatin Central

Mr. Speaker, my question is to the current Minister of Finance . On April 11, 1990, a motion was passed by the 11th Legislative Assembly that directed the Executive Council to prepare a policy that would permit only northern companies to bid on government contracts. This motion was moved by the current Minister of Finance , seconded by the current Minister of Public Works . During the last session the Minister of Finance told this House that his department and the Department of Public Works were looking at the policy because it does meet the specifics of this motion.

My question to the Minister of Finance is: Is the Minister still committed to implementing a policy consistent with the principles of that motion, that this policy should allow only companies resident in the NWT and who meet the government's business incentive policy to tender on all Government of the NWT contracts?

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

This question is directed to the Minister of Finance , but I caution Members that any question to the Minister of Finance has to deal with his present capacity as Minister of Finance , not taking into account what he might have done in his past life as an ordinary Member. Minister of Finance .

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John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, Mr. Morin , in his capacity as the Minister responsible for the business incentive policy, will be bringing to cabinet, tomorrow morning, information in that regard for cabinet perusal, and I will know what is in that document tomorrow.

As far as my commitment ,personally, to that end and to that motion, I still stand behind that motion, sir. Thank you.

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Michael Ballantyne

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, I would like to direct my question to the Minister of DPW. My colleague from the Keewatin had basically asked the Minister of DPW if he still believes in the business incentive policy, recognizing that it will be used to maximize northern preference, train northern people. I would like to ask if the Minister believes this policy should be developed, and will be developed, to ensure that we utilize, as the Government of the NWT, absolute northern preference for tenders that are given and awarded to the territorial contractors. Thank you.

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Michael Ballantyne

Minister responsible for Public Works , Mr. Morin .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The past business incentive policy was to equalize and bring up to par northern businesses that have to compete with southern businesses. The business incentive policy, as far as I was concerned, was never there for training northern people, and that was the problem with that policy. We have to address the training of northern people in a different way for the simple reason that the percentage was not great enough to make sure that our people were getting trained.

We have been doing capital projects in the Northwest Territories for many years, and still the majority of the people that are working on those projects are coming from the South or from outside the community, and as far as I am concerned that is unacceptable. So we do have a plan, and we will be talking about it in this Legislative Assembly during this session, for how we are going to maximize the training, how we are going to get our people trained, how our people can take care of those jobs, so that money does not go to Quebec, Alberta, Saskatchewan or Newfoundland, or wherever it is going now, and stays in the Northwest Territories.

In the past Legislative Assembly, the people that know me know that I was a strong pusher for that, and I will continue to do that. We have to train our people and we have to ensure that they do have the jobs, and any policy we put in place has to reflect that. I will do that as Minister of DPW. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, in as much as I recognize what the Minister is saying, that he would like to make sure that this policy that encourages northern contractors to train northern people to take advantage of opportunities that are given by the government, and recognizing that the Province of Quebec has an absolute preference policy for only contractors of Quebec, I would like to know whether the Minister is going to ensure that any contracts that are given out to tender for northern people, or any tenders that are being awarded, will use the absolute northern preference, and that the policy will be developed with absolute northern preference only. Thank you.

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is my understanding that in Quebec it is not an absolute policy to hire Quebec firms only. I will get that information and distribute it to Members. One thing we have to look at is what we are trying to achieve. It is always nice on paper to say "absolute northern contractors only," but will we be able to achieve it, and are we going to use our work force to police that and make sure that everybody does that, only tender in the Northwest Territories? Or should we use the work force we have to develop training programs and make sure our people are working?

That is the question we all have to answer. We have only so many PYs, so what are we going to use them for? You know, either do something positive or just be a police force.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, the Minister is not answering my question. I am asking, with the new policy that is being developed, will the Minister ensure that northern preference, absolute northern preference, will be granted to people who tender on these contracts that are being awarded? Thank you.

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If the Member is asking that only northern contractors with residence in the North are allowed to bid, the answer would be no. Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, can the Minister, then, tell me, if he does not believe that absolute northern preference will be given in the new policy that is being developed for business incentive, then what is the purpose for the business incentive policy to be amended so that we can enhance and encourage, so businesses can take the opportunity to train northern people for these contracts that they are going to be awarded?

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The amendments to the business incentive policy I am putting forward to cabinet tomorrow may get through cabinet, or they may not be approved by cabinet. I will be in a better position to answer this tomorrow. Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Point of order, Mr. Speaker. You asked the Minister if he was taking it under notice, and he did not reply into the record. Thank you.

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I will repeat the question for the record. Mr. Morin , are you taking the question as notice?

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Don Morin

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is for the Minister of Safety and Public Services . During the last session the Minister announced that a consultative process to develop the new Mining Safety Act would take place under the auspices of a committee with an independent chair. Can the Minister tell the House if this committee has been struck yet?

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, I am still actively consulting, particularly with organized labour, in order to get this committee established. Those consultations are not quite concluded; but when they are, Mr. Speaker, and I expect that to happen shortly, I will give this House a statement on the results of the process to date, and I expect that very shortly. Thank you.

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Question O99-12(2): Consultation With Elders In Elective Surgery

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to direct my question to the Minister of Health . On February 10, I attended a funeral in Fort Providence of an elderly person who died, in Edmonton, because of the surgery that was performed to remove gallstones. The person was 89 years old, and perhaps if there was a concern regarding prolonging his life, then maybe the surgery should not have been done. The point, Mr. Speaker, is that the old man did have that surgery, and as a result of that he hemorrhaged and did not regain consciousness.

I realize that transportation is a concern, but when people of that age are required to travel to Edmonton to have surgery, they should be informed as to whether or not it is in their best interest to have surgery that could have serious complications. I would like to know whether they are advised of that or if they are just told, "You need these gallstones removed, so you have to get them removed."

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would not know the specifics in this instance, but I think that medical matters like that are between patients and their doctors. I think that doctors make their best judgment at the time with the information that they have. I think we are treading on pretty thin ground if we start to tell people, "You are too old to have an operation," unless there are some other factors in there that the doctor might know at the time. I think it is a judgment call that the medical profession takes very seriously and it is a matter between a physician and a patient as to the level of care they should receive.

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Mr. Gargan , supplementary.

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Mr. Speaker, the senior I am referring to is from my community. The concern that I have is that we do not have any qualified translators to convey the situation to the senior. The senior had his nephew, and he does not speak his language perfectly himself, but he accommodated him. I think in a situation like this, where a person loses his life, that we have to look at it seriously and see what it is that we could do to improve the situation. I do not know if he was given the right information or not. I am not questioning the fact of the confidentiality between the doctor and the patient; I am questioning the process that resulted in the loss of life.

I would like to ask the Minister if there is a process used in the communities when a patient is being referred south, or whether it is still a situation between a doctor and the patient, regardless of whether there is a lack of communication.

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That is a tough one to answer because I do not know what took place and whether translation was a problem. I am not sure of the specifics; and if I could take this matter as notice, I will get the Member the specifics on it, and we can get more of the question answered...

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

You are wasting our time.

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Well, on matters of health and seriousness like this, it is hardly fair to say that we are wasting time. This is important, and I am trying to give the Member...

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Excuse me; this is argumentative. The question has been taken as notice. Oral questions. Mrs. Marie-Jewell .

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Question O100-12(2): Status Of Metis Health Benefits

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister of Health what is the status of the Metis health benefits.

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

The matter is still under review, and there are a number of things that we need to deal with. It will be before cabinet in the near future.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, can the Minister give us some indication as to the time frame within which he anticipates the matter will be concluded and he can give a definite answer as to whether he can address the Metis health benefits, or is the government going to deny the Metis health benefits? Can he give this House a specific time frame that we are going to be looking at?

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

No, I cannot give the Member a specific time on it because there are a number of things that have to be addressed yet and we are in consultation with the main players in it.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, can the Minister tell me the outstanding issues that still need to be addressed with respect to the Metis health benefits?

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There are a number of areas that we are not able to come to any immediate decision on. I think the definition of "Metis" is a prime one, and the cost impact to the health care system. I think it is principally on the definition first.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, is the Minister basically stating that the two specific items that are outstanding to date are the definition of a Metis, and also the cost impact to the government?

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Yes.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Those being the only two outstanding items in respect to addressing the Metis health benefits, when does the Minister feel that he can make some announcement in this House as to when this government will be addressing the long outstanding issue of Metis health benefits, since the government of the Northwest Territories took responsibility for the health program?

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I hope by the next session, sometime in June. I may by that time have something for the Member.

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Question O101-l2(2): Proposed Park For Lake Harbour

Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 79

Kenoayoak Pudlat

Baffin South

(Translation) Mr. Speaker, I would like to direct this question to the Minister of Economic Development and Tourism . I stated just yesterday that I presented this document yesterday, the park proposal in Lake Harbour. Maybe the Minister of Economic Development can give us an update on the planning or give us a document on the planning process of the park proposal there.

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John Pollard

Hay River

Yes, Mr. Speaker, I will make the document available to the Member. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Kenoayoak Pudlat

Baffin South

(Translation) Yes, I think I already have a document on the planning process. As well, I have a document on -- they have been training tourism operators, and that will probably be concluded in June. I would like to know more about the process of training that they have for tourism operators in that region.

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John Pollard

Hay River

I will take the question as notice, Mr. Speaker.

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Question O102-12(2): Number Of Proposed Pys To Be Transferred To Power Corporation

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Page 79

Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This question is for the Member for Hay River , wearing whatever hat he wants to wear. There is a proposal in the Beatty report that the POL, petroleum, oil and lubricants, program be transferred to the northern power group. I would like to ask the Minister if he has calculated the number of PYs that in fact would be transferred to the Power Corporation under this proposed transfer.

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Michael Ballantyne

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John Pollard

Hay River

No, Mr. Speaker.

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the Minister if he would undertake to provide me, then, with that information so that I can see the impact on the city of Yellowknife if those positions are transferred.

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Page 79

John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, I think what has been talked about is a transfer of responsibility from Government Services to the Power Corporation. I do not think there has been any discussion, sir, of a physical move of bodies from one community to another. It is not nearly in that stage. I would undertake to provide to the Member, though, the number of people who are concerned with the POL that reside in Yellowknife at the present time, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Michael Ballantyne

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Question O103-12(2): Dental Practitioners With Hiv Or Aids To Inform Patients

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Page 79

Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to direct my question to the Minister of Health . He is a descendent of the aboriginal people, and aboriginal people have principles regarding honesty and openness, both on the part of the healers and the persons being helped. However, Mr. Speaker, I have trouble relating to the principle on a recent situation in which a dentist with AIDS treated residents of the Northwest Territories without telling them that he had the disease. Many Northerners, I am sure, think that if a dentist has a communicable disease, his patients should be told about it so that they can make an informed decision about whether or not to seek treatment elsewhere.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the Minister if he would advise the House whether it is possible for regional health boards to include a clause in their contractual agreements with dental service providers which requires a practitioner with HIV or AIDS to inform his or her patients.

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Page 79

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Michael Ballantyne

Minister of Health , Mr. Whitford .

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, the question is quite complex, and I will need time to look at this. I would like to take this as notice.

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Michael Ballantyne

The question is being taken as notice. Oral questions. Mrs. Marie-Jewell .

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Question O104-12(2): Appointment Of Chairman, Mining Safety Committee

Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 79

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a question for the Minister responsible for Safety and Public Services . Mr. Speaker, in December the Minister indicated that he had set up, under the auspices of the Mining Safety Act, a committee that will have an independent chairman to address the Mining Safety Act. Has the Minister, to date, appointed an independent chairman to facilitate this committee? Thank you.

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. No, Mr. Speaker.

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Page 80

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, has the Minister formulated and completed his committee?

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

No, Mr. Speaker.

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Michael Ballantyne

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the Minister what is lacking with respect to the formulation of this committee in order to address the Mining Safety Act?

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Page 80

Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, in consulting with various parties who are vitally interested in new and improved mine safety legislation, I have encountered strong opposition to the composition of the committee as I announced it in this Legislature. This opposition, Mr. Speaker, is strong enough and significant enough that it could threaten the effectiveness of the committee and the willingness of all parties to participate in that committee. Mr. Speaker, the reason the committee has not yet been struck is not from want of effort, but it is because I am still trying to resolve the fundamental objections that have been expressed from some quarters about the composition of the committee. Thank you.

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Michael Ballantyne

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Page 80

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Could the Minister indicate to this House where the opposition is and from what group it is coming?

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

As I said, Mr. Speaker, I am still consulting and indeed will be having a meeting on that very subject later today. However, I can answer the Member's question in general terms. Mr. Speaker, representatives of organized labour are concerned about my announced intention to have a representative of unorganized labour sitting on the mining safety committee. That is the major problem that I am facing and trying to resolve at the moment. Thank you.

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Question O105-12(2): Funding For Environmental Surveys, Sanikiluaq

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Page 80

Kenoayoak Pudlat

Baffin South

(Translation) Mr. Speaker, I would like to direct this question to the Minister of Finance . In our area, as well as in Sanikiluaq, we know there is a panel on environmental surveys who have been requesting environmental assessment. Have you put aside money for their request for funding? They said they had received a percentage of what they had requested. The environmental panel had requested to do some surveys in their area. Maybe the Minister of Finance might know about this request or if they have funding for that purpose.

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Page 80

John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, I do not have any knowledge of it right now, but I will look into it for the Member. I am taking the question as notice.

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Michael Ballantyne

The question is taken as notice. Oral questions. Mr. Antoine .

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Question O106-12(2): Quarterly Funding For Divisional School Boards

Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 80

Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a question for the Minister of Education . Yesterday I questioned the Minister about the monthly educational grant payments, and I know that all divisional school boards in the North are very concerned about this quarterly funding. Yesterday you indicated that your department has developed a paper that you will be taking to the Executive Council, and the Executive Council has not made a decision on how they are going to deal with this yet. Can you tell the House when you will be presenting this paper to the Executive Council?

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Page 80

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Michael Ballantyne

Minister of Education , Mr. Allooloo .

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