Debates of Feb. 13th, 2012

This is page numbers 353 - 390 of the Hansard for the 17th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was health .

Topics

Oral Questions

Members Present

Prayer

Traditional Economy

The arctic fox broke its previous record for top selling price, with a pelt going for the all-time high of $200. Muskrat and beaver were also in high demand at auction. All of the Northwest Territories muskrat pelts shipped to auction were sold, as were 95 percent of beaver pelts.

Prevention And Promotion

Joint Canada-alberta Implementation Plan For Oil Sands Monitoring

Member's Statement On Condolences On The Passing Of Bishop John Sperry

Member's Statement On Campaign Against Bullying And Cyber-bullying

Member's Statement On Poverty Issues Affecting Elders

Member's Statement On Government Christmas Service Closures

Member's Statement On Stroke And Heart Disease In The Nwt

Member's Statement On Addressing Root Causes Of Homelessness In All Communities

Member's Statement On Need For New Schools In Nahanni Butte And Trout Lake

Member's Statement On Negotiated Contracts Policy For Realignment Project On Highway No. 4

Member's Statement On Promoting Sport And Active Lifestyle

Member's Statement On Communication With Regular Members Regarding Public Investment

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Condolences On The Passing Of Bishop John Sperry

Public Release Of Ministerial Travel Reports

Diagnosing Heart Disease In Infants And Children

Prelude Lake Campground Management Plan

Multi-year Funding For Prevention And Wellness Promotion Projects

Public Housing Arrears And Evictions Moratorium

Doctor Shortage In Hay River

GNWT Customer Service Standard

Anti-bullying And Cyber-bullying Legislation

Nahanni Butte And Trout Lake Schools

Betty House Funding Announcement

Betty House Funding Announcement

Spectacular Nwt Promotional Campaign

Employment Of Nurse Practitioner Graduates

Concentration Of Specialized Services In Yellowknife

Bill 2: Interim Appropriation Act (operations Expenditures), 2012-2013

Consideration In Committee Of The Wholeof Bills And Other Matters

Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Bill 1:

An Act To Amend The Borrowing Authorization Act

Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Hon. Glen Abernethy , Hon. Tom Beaulieu , Ms. Bisaro , Mr. Blake , Mr. Bouchard , Mr. Bromley , Mr. Dolynny , Mrs. Groenewegen , Mr. Hawkins , Hon. Jackie Jacobson , Hon. Jackson Lafferty , Hon. Bob McLeod , Hon. Robert McLeod , Mr. Menicoche , Hon. Michael Miltenberger , Mr. Moses , Mr. Nadli , Hon. David Ramsay , Mr. Yakeleya

The House met at 1:32 p.m.

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Prayer

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Good afternoon, colleagues. I'd like to acknowledge a former Member who passed away, a former scholar, activist and politician, Robert Williamson. He passed away at the age of 90 on Sunday, February 12, 2012. Mr. Williamson was the first elected Member for a newly formed Keewatin riding, later known as the Central Arctic riding. He was a member of the 5 th and 6 th Assemblies of the NWT Council from 1966 to 1970.

Mr. Williamson was born in England, November 2, 1931, and immigrated to Canada in 1952.

He began his long career in the North in the community of Fort Simpson where he started recording Dene folklore. In the 1950s, he lived in Pangnirtung where he learned to speak Inuktitut and founded the first Inuit language journal: “Inuktitut.”

Mr. Williamson taught at the University of Saskatchewan and was chair of the university's International Committee. In his time in the North he helped establish the Arctic Research and Training Centre in Rankin Inlet and in 1958 founded the Eskimology

section at the Department of Indian and Northern Affairs. He also worked with the Inuit Tapirisat of Canada, Canadian Eskimo Arts Council, the Inuit Circumpolar Conference and the CBC Northern Service. In 1983 he was invested into the Order of Canada.

Mr. Williamson was married to Karla Jessen Williamson. He had two children from his second marriage and four children from his first marriage. Our condolences go out to the Williamson family.

To pay respect to a former Member of the Legislative Assembly, our flags will be flying at half-mast today.

Orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers' statements.

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Minister's Statement 12-17(2): Traditional Economy

Ministers' Statements

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am happy today to update my colleagues on the huge increases in pelt prices seen at the first wild fur auction of the year.

However, I would first like to take a moment to recognize the loss of a respected elder, wise teacher and talented trapper, Mr. Aà Harry Pierre Mantla. Even at the age of 71, Aà was one of the most active trappers in the North Slave region and could be regularly counted on for 200 marten pelts a year. We would like to offer our sincere condolences to the Mantla family. His contribution to the fur industry will be missed.

The first wild fur sale of the season was held last month. Fur sold through the Genuine Mackenzie Valley Fur Program had notable price increases across the board; cross fox, red fox and beaver pelt prices all more than doubled. The prices were also up for grizzly bear, muskrat, wolf and arctic fox.

The pelts sold through our Genuine Mackenzie Valley Fur Program continue to fetch a higher-than-average price for harvesters in the Northwest Territories. One example is cross fox: a high of $100 for a pelt this year, compared to the overall average of $64.

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The arctic fox broke its previous record for top selling price, with a pelt going for the all-time high of $200. Muskrat and beaver were also in high demand at auction. All of the Northwest Territories muskrat pelts shipped to auction were sold, as were 95 percent of beaver pelts.

Ministers' Statements

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Total Northwest Territories sales at the auction held in North Bay, Ontario, totalled $124,000; the highest amount at this auction in recent years.

The good news is that we still have three more fur auctions to go this year. The next auction where genuine Mackenzie Valley furs will be sold is at the Fur Harvesters Auction on March 23, 2012, in Seattle, Washington. Last year at this same auction, over $815,000 worth of genuine Mackenzie Valley furs were sold. If recent prices and demand are any indication, our trappers will again enjoy high sales at future auctions.

Mr. Speaker, 2012 marks the ten-year anniversary of the revitalized Genuine Mackenzie Valley Furs Program. Since its inception, the program has provided Northwest Territories trappers with a comprehensive fur marketing service in addition to a guaranteed fur advance for Northwest Territories trappers while their fur is shipped to sale, a prime fur bonus for those whose furs sell for more than the advance and a grubstake payment of $5 per pelt paid to eligible trappers at the start of each

fur-trapping season.

This program is the best in Canada in terms of support provided to trappers. The success of our trappers is of vital importance to the Government of the Northwest Territories. With their success, both their families and communities benefit.

Finally, and perhaps most importantly, I am pleased to report that since the introduction of the Take a Kid Trapping Program, provided under the Genuine Mackenzie Valley Fur Program, the number of youth involved in the trapping industry is also continuing to grow.

Last year, the Take a Kid Trapping and Harvesting program hosted 49 projects in regions throughout the NWT. A total of 2,274 youth participated, an increase of 23 percent over the previous year. This is the most participation we have seen to date, which demonstrates a significant and growing interest in the program. This is a good sign for the future of our fur industry.

A recent project that also took place through this program was the construction of a traditional kayak in Tuktoyaktuk. I want to congratulate the high school students at the Mangilaluk School for their hard work completing the kayak, and a special thanks to Mr. Darrel Nasogaluak, the program instructor. The kayak will be proudly displayed in the Tuktoyaktuk airport for everyone to enjoy.

By actively supporting the harvesting and marketing of wild fur through the Genuine Mackenzie Valley Furs Program, as well as engaging youth in the Take a Kid Trapping Program, the Government of the Northwest Territories is taking action to diversify the economy and provide all communities and regions with opportunities and choices. Thank you.

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The arctic fox broke its previous record for top selling price, with a pelt going for the all-time high of $200. Muskrat and beaver were also in high demand at auction. All of the Northwest Territories muskrat pelts shipped to auction were sold, as were 95 percent of beaver pelts.

Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . Colleagues, before we continue on, I'd like to recognize a former Member of the Mackenzie Delta who sat in the 13 th , 14 th , 15 th and 16 th Legislative Assemblies, former Speaker, Minister and MLA, Mr. David Krutko. Welcome to the House, David.

The honourable Minister of Health , Mr. Beaulieu .

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Minister's Statement 13-17(2): Prevention And Promotion

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Mr. Speaker, this Assembly has talked about the importance of supporting residents to be healthy, educated and free from poverty. I think most people in our territory will agree.

We need to help our children, families and communities get to a place where they feel good, can meet their own needs and contribute in a positive way to our society.

We've talked about the need to use prevention, education and awareness in making this happen. Today I will speak about the approach we want to take through the health and social services system to reach this goal.

Prevention is basically about making positive, healthy choices in the way we live our lives. I often talk about the four pillars of healthy living: eat healthy foods, get exercise, don't smoke, and drink in moderation. These are all cornerstones of the government's Healthy Choices Framework, and the Department of Health and Social Services works closely with other departments to promote these positive choices. Recently, Members of this House joined me in the launch of the My Voice, My Choice campaign. It gets NWT youth talking about addictions and alcohol abuse in their communities.

If there is one thing that comes across in the stories these kids are telling, it is that they know what the issues are in their communities. They know what the problems are; we all do. They also make the connections between being active, eating right, avoiding alcohol and other drugs, and feeling well.

Over the next few weeks we will roll out other programs to support healthy choices. Drop the Pop will kick off in 40 schools. March is Nutrition Month, and during that time we will work closely with regional authorities and the Northern Nutrition Association to promote healthy eating through local activities such as cooking programs and grocery store tours. And we are working on a new anti-smoking campaign to encourage adults to be good role models for their children.

These investments are important and we have seen positive results from campaigns like Don't Be a Butthead. Starting tomorrow, Stanton Hospital, including its grounds, will be a non-smoking zone. But real change has to start at the community level. Communities are essential in making prevention work. I have been travelling around the territory since I became Minister of Health and Social Services, and I have heard that we need to involve communities in designing and delivering programs that speak to local issues and priorities.

Over the coming weeks and months I intend to reach out to communities, to Aboriginal leadership and to other stakeholders and invite them to partner with the department to find effective ways to encourage healthy choices, approaches based on local needs and priorities.

Prevention and health promotion activities are not only the right thing to do, they are essential if we want to improve the health status of our population and keep our system sustainable. I look forward to keeping you all up to date as our work in this area progresses. Thank you.

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Minister's Statement 13-17(2): Prevention And Promotion

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . The honourable Minister of Environment and Natural Resources , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Minister's Statement 14-17(2): Joint Canada-alberta Implementation Plan For Oil Sands Monitoring

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The people of the Northwest Territories have a stake in the ongoing development of the oil sands. Protecting our land and water from potential downstream impacts of development in Alberta is critical.

The Joint Canada-Alberta Implementation Plan for Oil Sands Monitoring is a solid first step in addressing the concerns raised by Aboriginal peoples, scientists and concerned residents, both upstream and downstream, of impacts of the oil sands development on our waters.

This new oil sands monitoring plan is based on sound science and incorporates world-class tools to monitor and assess air quality, water quality and quantity, aquatic ecosystem health, wildlife toxicology, terrestrial biodiversity and habitat disturbance.

The new plan outlines a transparent and accountable monitoring system and adaptive management process, which could address the concerns of Northerners depending on how Canada and Alberta implement it.

While the implementation plan does not clearly identify governance mechanisms, I am encouraged by comments last week by Alberta Premier Alison Redford recognizing the need for an independent oversight committee or monitoring agency.

Collaboration with our government and residents of the Northwest Territories is definitely required if the monitoring plan is to be successful. We will continue to press both Canada and Alberta to include our government in the implementation of monitoring programs, and encourage the participation and engagement of Aboriginal people in it as well. We will be requesting representation on the independent oversight committee for our government and Aboriginal groups.

During the next few weeks I will be seeking further clarification on key aspects of the joint implementation plan and confirming our continued involvement through all phases of the new oil sands monitoring program. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Member's Statement On Condolences On The Passing Of Bishop John Sperry

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today we in the North mourn the loss of a long-time friend. Bishop John R. Sperry passed away in Hay River on Saturday, February 11 th , at the age of 87.

Bishop Sperry, known to his friends as Jack, was born in eastern England in 1924. He joined the British Royal Navy in 1943 and served until 1946 on the destroyers and escorts, doing convoy duty.

After completing his tour of duty, he immigrated to Canada in 1950, serving parishes in Kugluktuk, then known as Coppermine, and Fort Smith. He served as the diocese bishop of the Arctic for the Anglican Church from 1973 to 1990 and is the author of “Igloo Dwellers Were My Church,” a memoir of his time in the North.

Bishop Sperry worked throughout the Northwest Territories, Nunavut and northern Quebec. He travelled in the North, visiting communities along the way, telling his stories of the way things used to be, passing on his knowledge and experience wherever he went. He lived his life as a true Northerner, often travelling by dogsled.

He had an amazing respect for the culture of the Inuit people. He learned several northern languages and translated the Bible, prayer books and hymns into the Inuktitut dialect, which was instrumental in teaching the Anglican faith to the people of the Western Arctic.

After retirement Bishop Sperry worked with health and volunteer organizations, and was instrumental in supporting fellow veterans in the Northwest Territories. He was chaplain of the Rangers division of the Joint Task Force North. He regularly visited patients at Stanton Territorial Hospital as well as veterans and elders living at home or in long-term care facilities in Yellowknife.

In July 2002 Bishop Sperry was named Companion to the Order of Canada, recognizing his outstanding lifetime achievement and service to the North.

Bishop Sperry passed away peacefully with his loving family close by: his son John Sperry, his daughter Angela Friesen, and their families in Hay River, where he lived for the last several years. Bishop Sperry will be missed for his spiritual leadership, his stories, his sense of humour, and his knowledge and wisdom, but mostly and especially for the love he shared with so many people along the path that he took while spreading the word of God. The many people he taught and helped and the blessings he bestowed on all those he met will long be remembered.

He was dedicated to the people of Canada's North for over 50 years. We thank him for this. I extend my sincere condolences to Bishop Sperry's family and friends today. Our loss is heaven's gain.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . The honourable Member for Range Lake , Mr. Dolynny .

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Member's Statement On Campaign Against Bullying And Cyber-bullying

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Daryl Dolynny

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Most recently the Government of Quebec has announced new measures to counter cyber-bullying and bullying in schools, and I have to commend that government and other governments across Canada who have gone down that path.

This made me reflect that not that many weeks ago I had the pleasure of attending a town hall meeting with the YK1 trustees and parents. One of the topics discussed that night was on bullying and I was concerned that although the schools are doing their part to curb this type of behaviour, we as legislators are sitting on the sidelines with our mouths zippered. I ask myself why.

Why as legislators can't we assist our school systems to provide measures to counter bullying and cyber-bullying? Why hasn't the GNWT denounced cyber-bullying and violence by providing funds for aggressive campaign ads for television, radio or Internet awareness? Why can't the GNWT provide a website to identify bullies and strategies for their victims? Why haven't we acted as stewards to provide the ability for NWT residents to symbolically or publicly declare our concern against bullying?

And most of all, why hasn't the GNWT acted like many of our provincial counterparts and put measures and legislation in place to denounce bullying and cyber-bullying? This will be asked later today of the Minister of Education .

Some may argue that we already have such legislation via our NWT Human Rights Act under the protection against harassment, but I say with conviction that this is not enough. This act does not specifically address or protect the victims of bullying of our children and youth, and it clearly does not go far enough to protect ourselves from the ever evolving cyber-bullying that takes place.

It's imperative that our message needs to be broad based and our responsibility should not only be to protect our children or youth during the school hours but at all times during their development period. The message should be loud and clear: This government has a moral and ethical obligation to stop bullying and stop the intimidation, that it has no place in our schools or in our northern society at large. We have the means and the power to draw the line in the sand to bullies everywhere to say no more.

As legislators we can and we must pull together to agree that anti-bullying and cyber-bullying legislation has to be added to our priorities in the coming months, and I ask each and every one of the MLAs here today to step forward and accept this challenge. Together we can change behaviour.

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Member's Statement On Campaign Against Bullying And Cyber-bullying

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny . The honourable Member for Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Member's Statement On Poverty Issues Affecting Elders

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Growing old in the Sahtu is no picnic for our people. When the Minister of Health and I did a tour in the Sahtu region, we heard from many elders and heard from the leaders how hard and difficult it was for our old people to have family members live with them and to support them by cutting wood, hauling water, looking after their house, helping them with their medication.

Last week I heard my colleague Mr. Blake 's account of elders in the Mackenzie Delta who had to leave their families in the communities to live in home care. Over a number of years I have spoken about the support of our elders. What I want to talk about this afternoon is the government's practice to claw back on income support for families and fuel subsidies, who have families living with these elders.

Many elders need help around the house and the elders need company. In my culture, family helps the older people and families stay together. This is one of the real strengths of our way of life. Coincidentally, it helps us govern too. It meets the objective for healthy, independent people. The problem is this government is not putting its money where its mouth is. Instead it is penalizing elders who have families living with them. An elder may be poor and broke, but if anyone lives in their house and makes a little money, income support will claw back. It's the same story with the fuel subsidy. If there's family income, someone has to pay Grannie's fuel bill.

There are many ways to keep our people down and the clawback is one way. We talk about the Anti-Poverty Strategy in this House, and believe me, we need one. We have too much poverty with our elders. Instead of helping our people, this government clawing back on our elders will just make things worse. It's time to change the policy. I urge this government to help our elders. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . The honourable Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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Member's Statement On Government Christmas Service Closures

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As Christmas approached a few months ago, I began to see ads in the newspaper advising Northerners about upcoming GNWT office closures, and I was struck by the contradiction in an ad from Education, Culture and Employment which gave notice of a two-week closure of all offices right beside a slogan proclaiming ECE helps you go places. Hopefully, ECE does that, but certainly not for the two weeks at the end of December and the beginning of January each year.

The motto of the strategic plan for the Department of Human Resources is: public service, public focus. I fail to understand how the government can call itself a public service and then remove that service for a protracted period of time. We've had Donnie Days since 1996, and although people have become used to the lack of service at Christmastime, it's a most difficult time for residents who in an emergency need some GNWT help.

It's time that we, as a government, review this shutdown situation. If we really want to provide the services to our residents as we profess to do, we must evaluate the value of closing such things as service centres, income support offices, student financial assistance offices. Listen to the names: service, support, assistance. We are definitely not providing any of that with our two-week Christmas break shutdowns.

I've worked in the retail service industry for almost 20 years and admittedly things slow down over Christmas and New Year's, but life does not stop. The problems and the emergencies do not stop happening just because it's Christmas. What are our residents supposed to do when they need help on December 23 rd and no GNWT office is open? Who can they turn to? NWT programs and services are supposed to make life easier for our residents. Two-week-long closures are not a way to provide that help.

It's time to review the impact of these GNWT Christmas closures. It's time to consider the importance of service to our residents by the government. It's time to look at keeping some offices open during the Christmas holidays. We don't need to fully staff those offices, and I'm not asking for offices to be open on stat holidays, but we should have service-based programs available to our residents at any time of the year.

Current and previous Ministers of HR have often told us that the Department of Human Resources prides itself on its service to its customers, but does that same pride of service, that same culture of service exist in policy and overall government thinking? At a time when we are celebrating 60 years of public service by our Queen, when we've just awarded 11 Northerners the Queen's Jubilee Medal for public service, it is ironic that our government has to be reminded of their duty to provide service for its residents. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . The honourable Member for Deh Cho , Mr. Nadli .

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Member's Statement On Stroke And Heart Disease In The Nwt

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Tomorrow is Valentine's Day, when we express our love to special people in our lives. I know most of us have good hearts, so I was a little shocked when I found out that strokes and heart attacks are the second most common cause of death in the Northwest Territories.

Our rate of heart of attacks is a bit lower than Canada's, but our rate of strokes is about 50 percent higher than the national average. What makes this particularly scary is that effective treatment of strokes depends on very fast medical action. Most of our citizens won't get that. Some communities have no nurse and even Yellowknife has no 911 emergency service.

There have been advances in heart research, and some of us have raised money for it. Once you have heart disease, there is no easy cure. Treatment includes medication, surgery, and a variety of procedures which can be invasive and expensive.

We should do all we can to prevent heart disease. Smoking, for example, is a major risk factor. In the Northwest Territories we smoke much more than the rest of Canada. Being physically active and healthy prevents heart disease. I was surprised to learn that only about 41 percent of the Northwest Territories population is physically active enough to maintain or improve their health compared to 53 percent of all other Canadians. Being overweight and obese is another risk factor. Again, we are worse off than the rest of Canada. Sixty-three percent of our Northwest Territories residents are overweight or obese and the number is increasing.

Moderate to vigorous physical activity is recommended for people of all ages. At least two and a half hours per week for adults and 60 minutes a day for children is needed. Of course, eating a balanced diet helps too. Even so, some heart conditions are not preventable.

About three years ago Fort Providence lost an 11-year-old girl to an undiagnosed heart condition. In memory of young Shayna, her mother Shauna Clark-Canadien is organizing a fashion show and a silent auction to raise money for the Heart and Stroke Foundation. It will take place in Fort Providence at the Nahecho Keh Centre on February 25 th . Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Nadli . The honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake , Mr. Moses .

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Member's Statement On Addressing Root Causes Of Homelessness In All Communities

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My Member's statement today is going to be in regard to one of the Minister's statements last week in regard to a strong, very heavy contribution that was made to the City of Yellowknife here. It is in regard to shelters in the communities of the Northwest Territories.

As great as it sounds for Yellowknife to have this shelter brought forth into our territory and help those people that are in need, we also have to look at adjusting the root causes and the issues. As long as this government doesn't address those issues or those root causes that put our people into these shelters or make people go to these shelters, we are going to continue to have this problem. We are going to have to continue more infrastructure building to house these people in the communities that come from the communities who are either running away from very harmful relationships or who are having problems in the communities not having adequate housing.

We need to work together. This government needs to work together. Department and departments, when we build infrastructure, that we have programs to go alongside it. If we create programs, we have to have the infrastructure to house those programs to benefit the people of the Northwest Territories. Right now I think our government needs some work in that area. I think this government's 17 th Assembly should be addressing that over the next four years so that our people don't suffer anymore. When we put our money out there to build these things, we should do it in the best way and for the best way for the people of the Northwest Territories.

I was really glad to hear of the Minister of Health's statement earlier today, that we need some focus on prevention and promotion. I will have some questions for him later on today in regard to that area and possibly changing up some of our policies so that people of the Northwest Territories, our non-government organizations, our people who are working on the front lines have adequate resources and funding to put these programs into place to help these people that are in dire straits in these shelters. That is it, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Moses . The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Member's Statement On Need For New Schools In Nahanni Butte And Trout Lake

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I would like to make another statement on the need for new schools in Nahanni Butte and Trout Lake. I want to thank the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment for writing to me last week to advise me where the schools stand in the department's capital needs assessments.

According to the Education, Culture and Employment assessment, work to replace the Charles Yohin School should begin in 2016-17. Work to replace the Charles Tetcho School should begin in 2018-19. While this is good news, I am well aware that identifying needs for new schools and getting them into the capital plan are two different things. I am anxious to move to the next step. Of course, I would like to see work begin on the new schools sooner than the years ECE has identified because I do believe that they are urgent and critical.

I have clearly explained in earlier statements why replacements for these two schools are badly needed.

We won't achieve the goal of having educated people, as we state over and over again in our Caucus strategic plans, without having suitable learning environments for our young people. The existing buildings are just not adequate. Every year we wait for new schools we risk the future success of our youth. I don't believe that's a risk we can afford to make, Mr. Speaker.

It's good to have this letter in hand, but I want to be sure we are going to be hearing the wonderful and welcomed sound of saws and hammers in Nahanni Butte and Trout Lake within the next three years.

Later on today I will ask questions to the Minister as I continue to press for these needs of these new schools in our communities. Mahsi.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . The Member for Weledeh , Mr. Bromley .

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Member's Statement On Negotiated Contracts Policy For Realignment Project On Highway No. 4

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Negotiated contracts such as that proposed for Det'on Cho Corporation to realign Highway No. 4 play a critical role in the Northwest Territories. The Negotiated Contracts Policy is intended to lead to benefits which could not reasonably be expected through competitive processes which maximizes economic benefits for NWT residents and businesses, provides training and development opportunities, and supports the development of self-sustaining local and regional businesses. That sounds to me like a checklist of the merits of the Det'on Cho negotiated contract proposal for Highway No. 4.

Det' on Cho has proven its capacity in the initial Detah road contract, where it achieved a 70 percent Aboriginal hiring rate. The firm delivers projects safely, on time, on budget and well below costs of comparable contract arrangements.

Its achievement of the policy objective for development of skilled local tradespersons and the continued provision of training opportunities has been nothing less than outstanding.

There is more to this, though. The highway realignment around Giant Mine is part of the long overdue remediation of the environmental disaster inflicted on Akaitcho lands. Over the years, the Yellowknives Dene have suffered lost use and occupation of traditional lands, loss of hunting and trapping range, debasement of water quality and fish stocks and the introduction of toxic poisons into the environment they rely upon and cherish. Each of these created high costs and the need for equally costly alternatives to these people.

The Highway No. 4 realignment project provides the Yellowknives Dene an opportunity to recoup a modicum of these costs through economic growth based upon their savvy and initiative.

As the Transportation Minister said last week, negotiated contracts are intended to keep the benefits of GNWT spending in local economies, backing Det' on Cho actions to that principle.

I urge the Minister of Transportation to argue strongly with his Cabinet colleagues for a positive decision on granting this negotiated contract. The negotiated contract route thoroughly promotes and upholds the policy principles while to some degree redressing the significant cultural and economic loss from the degradation of Akaitcho traditional lands. Mahsi.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . The Member for Hay River North , Mr. Bouchard .

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Member's Statement On Promoting Sport And Active Lifestyle

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Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Over the weekend I was happy to visit with many people from Hay River that were in Yellowknife for several sporting events. Last week several of my colleagues from this side as well as the Ministers' indicated that we need to support volunteers in the North and make sure that we encourage people to be more active. I'd like to take this opportunity to tell those people that I think that's strong in the North, after seeing the many activities this weekend.

Minor hockey has three tournaments in Yellowknife, one in Hay River, and I know it took a great number of volunteers to run these tournaments and there were hundreds of youth that were actively playing their hearts out. I also know that there was a swim meet, a badminton tournament and a volleyball tournament. As well, the GNWT employees had a curling bonspiel this weekend. I know that there were many other events throughout the North and I would like to take this opportunity to thank all those people that helped organize and all those people that participated.

Sports are a healthy way for us to promote our people and to make active living and healthy lives. I'd like to thank everybody for their hard work. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bouchard . The Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Member's Statement On Communication With Regular Members Regarding Public Investment

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This past Friday the Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corp made a capital contribution announcement regarding the Betty House. First off, Mr. Speaker, I want to emphasize clearly that as a Member I'm very pleased to hear about this commitment on behalf of our government, and it's something that I have spoken in the past about and stressed the need we need to invest into. But sadly, at the same time, I, like many Members in this House, was shocked to hear this announcement.

What should have been seen strictly as a good-news story, something we're doing to promote the cause and help women in transition shelters, now becomes a conversation of where is the process. Where was the involvement of the Members on this particular side of the House? Where was the discussion in committee?

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Where'd you get the money?

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Where did you get the money, as well? While this is happening, Members are becoming concerned that this is becoming an Epimetheus when it comes to work in this particular Assembly. In short, are we simply an afterthought of this particular government?

Our Premier preaches continually about building good relationships and working relationships; however, it's starting to look like he's inviting everyone but this side of the House. While he's busy out there courting new relationships...

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

While this Premier is out, busy courting new relationships and he's filling that wonderful dance card with all his new friends, he's forgetting about us sitting on this side of the House looking to be involved in this investment.

It's been my experience, with more than eight years behind me, that when any new contribution or major contribution is a budget investment or certainly infrastructure item of this type, typically the affected Member or Members are involved. What working relationship is this Premier telling his Cabinet Minister to build? Regular Members want to be involved. He'll say, well, I did inform you. Informing the Members an hour before session started on Friday while we were in Priorities and Planning getting ready for the morning is not communication. Yet again an afterthought.

The fact is the lack of information seems very disrespectful. It seems along the fine lines of are we trumping our privilege in this Assembly. Members want to be involved.

There will be questions later today to the Premier , asking about when you will start informing and working with Regular Members on projects like this. We should be celebrating this contribution, not concerned about the process.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I, too, would like to recognize a former MLA and colleague, Mr. David Krutko.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Blake .

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to recognize the former Member for Mackenzie Delta , who has left very big shoes to fill here.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Blake . The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd also like to recognize my former colleague, Mr. Krutko. It's an honour to sit in his chair at committee meetings. They're much shorter now.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . Item 6, acknowledgements. Ms. Bisaro .

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Acknowledgement 2-17(2): Condolences On The Passing Of Bishop John Sperry

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to acknowledge the passing of Bishop John Sperry, a beloved Northerner, on Saturday. In my time in the travel industry, Bishop Sperry was the most dignified, considerate, compassionate client I ever dealt with. His character and personal qualities were ones we would all do well to emulate. The North is a poorer place today. My condolences to his family and all those who knew him.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . Item 7, oral questions. The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a bit of a thorny subject and I'm very reluctant to bring it up, of course, but in previous governments - a couple of them, at least - the Premier has committed to table, post, make public all travels of Cabinet Ministers. I would like to ask our Premier , the Honourable Bob McLeod , today if he is going to commit to share that same information publicly.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . The honourable Premier , Mr. McLeod.

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have an open and transparent government and we'll continue that practice.

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

I do appreciate that response. We'll look forward to seeing those travel reports. For the record, I think that Members on this side of the House should be expected to do the same thing.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . More of a comment. The honourable Member for Deh Cho , Mr. Nadli .

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Question 51-17(2): Diagnosing Heart Disease In Infants And Children

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question today is just a follow up from my statement regarding heart and stroke. My question is to the Minister of Health and Social Services . What methods do we use, especially in small communities, to detect and diagnose heart disease in children?

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Nadli . The honourable Minister responsible for Health and Social Services , Mr. Beaulieu .

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe that the method that is used is used by the doctors. I don't actually know the exact terminology, but it goes to the regular process during the time when a child would be feeling ill. The doctors would go through a process that I'm not familiar with or not an expert to speak of at this time.

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

I'd like to thank the Minister for his response. My other question is: Is information regarding heart disease and heart conditions getting to school kids, and if so, how is that being done regarding the overall health of children and heart conditions?

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

The department supports some of the Healthy Family programs. We have some Healthy Family programs in the North and also there's Healthy Babies. During the prenatal stages there is support given to the mothers to see if there could be any issues prior to birth. One of the key areas is that when the babies are just born and until they start school, they have a program, Healthy Babies, and if there's any issue, it's hoped it would be caught at that point.

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

I'd like to thank the Minister again. Just in terms of my final question, how do we know that information programs, whether it's Healthy Babies or initiatives to ensure that heart disease is detected, are effective since we know that the rate of obesity, for example, is rising?

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

At this time we recognize the fact that there is obesity, high obesity amongst children. The department is trying to work with the federal government on the childhood obesity issue right across the board by asking the health centres and anybody that is in the health field to work on proper eating, and not eating sugar, and exercising and so on. Essentially what we're trying to do is approach this from a wellness and promotion area, hoping that these issues are picked up at this time. Some of them are difficult to pick up, but that is what we are hoping to do with the promotion and prevention programs.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . The honourable Member for Weledeh , Mr. Bromley .

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Question 52-17(2): Prelude Lake Campground Management Plan

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are for the Minister of ITI and are with regard to the management of the Prelude Lake campground and boat launch. There's a large and growing demand on these facilities and it's probably the most popular park in the Northwest Territories. A large volume of parked campers, casual users of the boat launch, and those accessing both legal and illegal squats from the landing. Parking and dock use is maxed out and quality of experience is declining.

In correspondence from the 16 th Assembly's Minister of ITI , the Minister said a new and comprehensive management plan for the park will be forthcoming this year. Can the Minister of ITI tell me the status of that work?

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . The honourable Minister responsible for Industry, Tourism and Investment , Mr. David Ramsay .

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It was my understanding that this comprehensive management plan was started and I would be more than happy to advise the Member of the status of that plan as soon as I find out.

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

I look forward to that update. I guess really we want to be staying on top of our facilities such as this in a timely way and before they disintegrate to this degree, making the corrections that are necessary. What are the mechanisms that we have to regularly monitor the health of our facilities such as the Prelude Lake boat launch and so on, and for taking action to get those repaired in a timely way?

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

I take very seriously the concerns related to parks and tourism. I spent a number of years as a parks officer in the North Slave region. I'm well aware of the condition and deteriorating conditions in some of our parks and the fact that when it comes to maintenance dollars and capital dollars, parks, because of the competing interests for those capital dollars, are usually one of the last things that gets put on the table.

I think we really need to do parks a service and try to identify capital dollars in a meaningful way going forward that are going to have an impact on our parks and the condition of our parks, because we are out there in a large way promoting this territory to tourists around not only North America but globally, getting them here. It's important that when tourists do show up in the Northwest Territories that our parks are in shape, that they'll enjoy their stay and that our residents will also enjoy our park system the way it is.

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thanks for the response from the Minister. As the Minister noted, in my previous question, there's a wide range of consultation going on with territorial and federal departments with regard to Prelude Lake, but there was no mention from the previous Minister how First Nations governments' involvement will be ensured, and the public and stakeholder consultations. The boat launch itself is a jumping off point to the use of Akaitcho lands. Can the Minister assure me that the Yellowknives Dene First Nation will be included early in the work and the public will be informed and involved throughout?

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

I gave the Member a commitment to get him an update on the status of the plan for Prelude Lake and I'd be more than happy to get the Member a status of the involvement of the Yellowknives Dene in those discussions.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . Final supplementary, Mr. Bromley .

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate the Minister's commitment there. Another big component of the high demand for a boat launch and parking facilities is the high number of illegal occupations on federal lands, squatters that use the boat launch and so on. I've received an assurance from the Minister of MACA that there will be a call for aggressive federal enforcement of land law. These squats debase our tourism product as well as for the local law-obeying citizens. I'd like to ask if the Minister will work with the MACA Minister to push for federal enforcement of its law.

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Yes, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake , Mr. Moses .

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Question 53-17(2): Multi-year Funding For Prevention And Wellness Promotion Projects

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question today is for the Minister of Health and Social Services regarding his opening statement earlier today dealing with prevention and promotion. It's a great subject and a great move forward for this government to be looking into prevention and promotion to get our people in the NWT healthy and living fulfilled lives. In his statement he mentions that communities are essential in making prevention work. He also says that prevention and promotion activities are essential if we want to improve the health status of our population.

I believe currently the policy for the Health Promotion Fund, which this would probably filter through, only provides funding to one project per year per organization. In order to make this successful, I believe that this government needs to provide funding to similar projects on a concurrent basis. Is the Minister willing to look into the policy to change the policy so that groups who have successful projects can get funding in subsequent years rather than just having a one-time deal?

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Moses . The honourable Minister of Health and Social Services , Mr. Beaulieu .

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, the plan is to move more money into prevention. That is not to say that we want to increase the overall budget in there. Right now the Department of Health and Social Services is spending over $12 million in the area of wellness and also in that budget is where they have the community-based health promotion. What we're trying to do is move any programs that look like they're successful, we're going to support, because we recognize that issue, too, that some of the programs have been funded one year and regardless of whether they're successful or not, they've been dropped.

What we're trying to do now is move more of that type of money into prevention. We had indicated in the House before that we were hoping to move about what the department is spending, about 1 percent of its budget, on prevention and promotion, to about 3 percent. Thank you.

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

As the Minister stated, there will be more funding going into health promotion and the policies and looking at the successful projects. But in the past, I believe the department has seen a lot of successful projects. However, funding couldn't go back to them based on the policy that if an organization had a successful program one year or they got funding for one year, they wouldn't be able to see funding for the same project the second year. My question was to the Minister, if he'd be willing to change the policy to multi-year funding rather than just the one-time deal for successful projects. Thank you.

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

The Department of Health and Social Services goes through the annual business planning process, like any other department, but we actually did discuss the ways where we can do this, where we can provide multi-year funding to organizations that are making progress in the area of prevention and promotion. Thank you.

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Just one final question in regard to this new funding that might be going to the prevention area. Will there be a marketing strategy going out from the Department of Health and Social Services to all these communities and all these organizations to let them know that the new policy is going to possibly change, so that any organizations that had successful programs in the past and haven't gone back to that pot because of the current policy, that they will be able to go back and get funding again for a successful project that they had in the past? What is the marketing strategy for this upcoming fiscal year? Thank you.

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Initially, when we're moving into more prevention, more promotion, our first step was to discuss this with the Joint Leadership Council, which are the chairs and the public administrators of the various health and social services boards across the territory. That is the first thing we're doing. Secondly, we're going out to the communities and talking not only to the public but also the leadership, to look at areas that they think would be the best for their communities. Thank you.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . Final supplementary, Mr. Moses .

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In regard to prevention, earlier to my Member's statement I made a comment that the departments should work more collectively together. Has the Minister of Health worked with other areas such as the Department of Justice and how can they work together so that funding is not duplicated for some of these prevention programs? Thank you.

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Mr. Speaker, an example of the departments working with other departments is like going into the schools and providing money to the schools and having something like Drop the Pop promotion in schools that we're going to go into with. Like I indicated, they'll be launching that in 40 schools this week and next week. Yes, our intention is to work on the prevention with the Department of MACA because of the youth and also in the schools, education. Yes, I think we're also working on some other areas with the Department of Justice that may not be exactly with health promotion for children, but we're working with them as well. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Blake .

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Question 54-17(2): Public Housing Arrears And Evictions Moratorium

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As the moratorium on evictions draws near, I'd like to ask the Minister of Housing what is the success rate for people in public housing with arrears to set up payment plans.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Blake . The honourable Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation, Mr. Robert McLeod .

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Right now we've had nobody that is potentially affected by the evictions come forward and enter into repayment plans. We've got a month and a half left and we're hoping that things improve in the meantime. Thank you.

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

My next question is: Will the Minister of Housing be willing to extend the deadline?

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

We have had this in place now for approximately four months. We feel that is adequate enough time for people to come in and enter into repayment plans and try to honour them. No, we won't be looking at extending the deadline, because we feel the people have had enough time. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Hay River North , Mr. Bouchard .

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Question 55-17(2): Doctor Shortage In Hay River

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Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I indicated in the House before, Hay River is having difficulties getting permanent doctors. Speaking with the health board there, they've indicated there is also a barrier to funding. The fact is that there is a budget for doctors, but it doesn't allow them to hire additional nurse practitioners and additional professionals in the community because the dollars are allocated for doctors. My question today is for the Minister of Health . Why is this barrier in place? I guess that is the first question. Thank you.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bouchard . The honourable Minister of Health and Social Services , Mr. Beaulieu .

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. At this time there is a restriction on allocating doctor funding. It's a restriction that's placed by the Financial Management Board to ensure that we always have enough physician funding in the budget to hire doctors. We have a certain amount of doctors that we need to operate in the North, and that funding at this time is restricted into that budget. Thank you.

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Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

In light of Hay River's situation currently, is there a way that the Minister can implement a temporary moratorium of sorts to allow Hay River the flexibility to hire those additional professionals while we don't have permanent doctors so that we can have consistent professionals in the community of Hay River?

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

The department will actually be working on a business case for reallocation in that funding, and also the expansion of other health professionals, and particularly the nurse practitioner duties, in order to try to accommodate the lack of doctors in the various communities. Thank you.

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Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

My next question is: What is the timeline that the Minister would expect that we'd be able to implement this type of funding to allow nurse practitioners and, hopefully, a Midwifery Program into the Hay River Health Centre. What kind of timeline?

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

One of the political directions that I have given to the department is to look at a strategy to bring doctors into it. As part of that strategy, as I indicated, would be the expansion of the nurse practitioner duties and other health professionals. We are actually starting the process now to try to develop something, whether it is going to be a model that brings doctors into the communities or doctors into the North or switching or expanding some duties of other health professionals in order to accommodate this. We are actually starting on the process now. Thank you.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Bouchard .

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Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

Yes, we look forward to that sooner than later, Mr. Speaker. I have no further questions. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Bouchard . The honourable Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are addressed to the Minister of Human Resources . I would like to ask him a few questions to follow up on my statement. I talked a lot about public service, and lack of customer service and lack of service to our residents. I would like to ask the Minister initially whether or not we have a definition of customer services, whether his department has a definition of customer service, or are there standards that the department has that we use when we define customer service. Thank you.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . The honourable Minister of Human Resources , Mr. Abernethy .

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In the past there have been training courses available through the NWT for customer service. I don't believe those or any courses are currently being offered. As such, I am not sure if we have a true definition of customer service, but I am certainly willing to look into it and get a comprehensive answer whenever I can, at my earliest convenience. Thank you.

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thanks to the Minister. I guess my question went a bit more to the larger definition of service. I am thinking of service to our residents. I appreciate that customer service courses are sometimes offered. I think they have to be offered an awful lot more than they are. To the Minister in the issue of service to our residents in a larger sense, could he tell me whether or not we have standards which indicate, which define the kind of service, the level of service that we should be providing to our residents through our programs? Thank you.

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

I am not aware of a global statement that we have with respect to customer service. I believe a lot of the departments, with respect to their actual program areas, have identified a level of customer service or a level of expectation for each of those program areas, but as a global statement, I don't believe we have one. Once again, I will speak to the department and see if we can track something down in that sense.

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thanks to the Minister. I appreciate the commitment to look into this. As the Minister for Human Resources and the Minister responsible for the employment of all the people within our public service, I would like to ask him about the issue of time off at Christmas and at New Year's. It was negotiated quite some years ago. I would like to know from the Minister whether or not there has ever been any evaluation or review of the impact that that closure has had on the service that we provide to our residents. Thank you.

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

I don't believe a review of that nature has been conducted. I can say that there are a number of GNWT employees who really do like the Donnie Days and enjoy getting the time off. With respect to the impact on customer service, we don't have that information. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . Final, short supplementary, Ms. Bisaro .

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thanks to the Minister. I am sure that there are employees who enjoy a paid week at Christmas. We all would, I am sure. I would like to ask my last question to the Minister. If there has not ever been an evaluation done, I would like to ask the Minister if he would commit to consider doing a review or an evaluation and look at the benefit or the lack of benefit of keeping offices open over Christmas, whether it be every second day or every day except for stat holidays, half staff, full staff. Would he look at that kind of an evaluation or review? Thank you.

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Just for some clarity, not all GNWT employees are eligible for the mandatory with-pay days during the actual Christmas holidays. Every department is asked to do a bit of an analysis of their department to determine which services are continuous or required over the holiday season.

Things like health care workers and correctional workers and certain positions in Transportation as well as some positions in Public Works that are responsible for maintaining buildings and actual public safety and some positions in the Department of Human Resources like medical travel; these positions don't shut down, so not all positions shut down over the Christmas season. Those positions that fall under that category, they actually take their leave during the year at some other point as operational requirements allow.

There are a lot of people within the GNWT who are required to provide services over the holiday season. It will stay that way. As far as a review, we haven't done one. I will talk to the department and I will get back to the Member. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . The honourable Member for Range Lake , Mr. Dolynny .

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Question 57-17(2): Anti-bullying And Cyber-bullying Legislation

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Daryl Dolynny

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Earlier today in my Member's statement I spoke about something that affects many of our youth across our territory and that subject is bullying and cyber-bullying. It is clear that many jurisdictions across Canada have been realizing the need for proper legislation to allow schools and authorities the ability to deal with the burden of bullies and their victims.

Admittedly, at this time I have to give congratulatory remarks to the province of Quebec for their most recent introduction of measures that deal with bullying in schools. I am hoping the GNWT will follow suit. My question to the Minister of Education , given the nature of the topic and the need to remove this intimidation in our schools, is the Minister and his department prepared to bring forward legislative means in the form of anti-bullying or cyber-bullying legislation in the coming months? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny . The Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Lafferty .

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Those are the areas that we are exploring with other provincial jurisdictions. We knew that it is a controversial issue. There have been some incidents in the past in other provinces, provincial jurisdictions. We want to explore further and do our research. Some legislation is working and some isn't. We need to find out the pros and cons of why it is not working. Not only that, but I would like to work with Municipal and Community Affairs, especially with the Proud2bNWT.ca focusing on the youth and also the Department of Justice Not Us! campaign focusing on the youth and drugs.

It all involves anti-bullying in the schools, in the communities. We need to have a coordinated approach. That is what our focus is on right now. Mahsi.

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Daryl Dolynny

Range Lake

Mr. Speaker, thank you to the Minister for giving us a broad overview but it sounds like there is some work that wants to be done but is not being done. Until such time as we need to raise awareness of bullying in school in our system, can the Minister describe, because we are still working on such actions at this point, what exactly are the legal recourses for the school administration to deal with bullying as it stands today? Thank you.

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, there are certain processes in place with various school boards to have their own policies. Each of the school boards have different policies in place to deal with bullying in the schools. When there is an issue they deal with the school boards and the superintendents and also they deal with my department because I need to work closely with the board of education across the Northwest Territories to deal with 49 schools. Those are some of the processes that I outlined. Mahsi.

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Daryl Dolynny

Range Lake

Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the Minister's response on policy. I am talking about legislation. These are two different things. They need to protect our students, and policy obviously is not doing what it is meant to do. In fact, I want to take this one step further. If the Minister's response is such that we are still researching a subject which is being dealt with on a provincial basis today and we have to wait for such means, it may suggest that maybe the Members on this side of the House might have to come forward with a private member's bill.

I know the Members here are going to be very fashionable bringing that forward maybe in the months to come. Until that could be drafted and, again, if we are waiting for the government side of the House to come forward, are there any other supportive or communicative strategies the Minister is aware of to raise awareness of bullying and cyber-bullying in the interim as we are waiting for this type of legislation? Thank you.

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, I realize there is a difference between policy and legislation. We currently don't have legislation on bullying. That is part of the reason why I am saying that there are policies in place that deal with the school boards. At the same time, we are exploring those areas. In order to bring legislation into effect, I need to deal with the standing committee. If there are going to be changes to policy and legislation, then we need to deal with the committee as we move forward. Those are options that we are currently exploring. I am hoping to bring that forward within due time. Mahsi.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . The Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you very much. I just want to follow up with the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment about capitalizing the needs of schools in a couple of communities in my riding, most particularly the Charles Yohin School in Fort Liard and the Charles Tetcho in Trout Lake. I'd like to ask the Minister what steps are necessary in order to move from the capital needs assessment portion of the planning of these schools and get these schools incorporated into our five-year capital plan.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . The Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Lafferty .

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. With all of the capital infrastructure, the process of going through the budget planning process to deal with capital, and we do have an area of technical or evaluation of the schools. So we do, upon requests, evaluation of the schools. For particular schools, whether it be Trout Lake or Liard and other areas of infrastructure that's badly needed in the community or in need of repair, then we do an analysis in those areas and we've done those in the Member's riding as well. So when it comes to the capital planning process, these items will be discussed for sure. Mahsi.

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you very much. I'd like to work with the department as we move towards the capital planning process in the springtime come May and June. I was just asking about getting the process on the capital plan. I know that in other departments they use planning studies. So I would like to start with that. When can we look at doing planning studies for these two schools in order to put an amount on them? Thank you.

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

I need to find out from my department exactly where the status is on those two particular schools that the Member is referring to, particularly on the planning studies, if they've done one already; if not, then when is that going to be happening. So I can get back to the Member on those two schools that he's referring to. Mahsi.

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you very much. So the next step is to raise that in the capital planning. As well, I think the key objective here is to move it from the capital needs assessment to the capital planning studies, and also I'd like to invite the Minister to do a tour of the riding so that he can see for himself the needs of these schools and the amount of children that are in them. As well, what efforts have been done to date in these two communities in looking at and assessing the schools? Thank you.

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

We've had consultants work on various school projects, whether it be evaluation, the status of each school, and there's been a highlight of minor or major repairs that need to be initiated. There's been some minor capital infrastructure that has been identified for these two schools. So it is currently in the works, and in moving forward, if there are other issues that we need to discuss, then the capital plan process will be the opportune time. Mahsi.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Final supplementary, Mr. Menicoche . Okay. The Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In my Member's statement today I talked about the issue of process and the whole underlying theme here is it's not about the Betty House in particular, which if money made itself available I would certainly support transition shelter for women and children in every regional centre of the Northwest Territories, but as we all know that's certainly not possible. But it's sad because it comes under the halo of a great launch and a significant achievement under a contribution from this government towards this project. But yet at the end of the day Members are left wondering where did this come from.

My question will be directed to the Premier , strictly about process of his government working with our side of the House. Would the Premier explain why weren't MLAs kept informed of this particular announcement? Because we have no idea where the money was coming from, we had no idea this project launch was going to happen, and e-mailing us just before the Assembly sat is not communicating. Thank you.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . The honourable Premier , Mr. McLeod.

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would have thought the Member would have been right on top of this as this Betty House is in his riding, but the money was approved in the 2009-2010 budget through Canada's Economic Action Plan. It was carried over and it was reviewed by the Standing Committee on Social Programs. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

You can tell from the Premier 's response there about how did I know, clearly I must have hit a vein of reality here. The fact is this side of the House is not fully kept apprised as to what actions were happening. This particular project did not get the vetting of the standing committee in advance of this particular situation, and as I said in my Member's statement, clearly whenever a significant contribution happens for any particular region, the MLA is informed. Certainly not only myself, as the Premier has readily informed of being the local MLA, there are seven MLAs in Yellowknife and something could have gone out in writing to us.

What actions is this Premier going to do and take today to correct these steps of blatant insults to this side of the House?

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

It's my understanding that the Standing Committee on Social Programs was informed that work was ongoing on finalizing this agreement at a meeting in December 2010. Also through normal protocol and convention we give additional advanced notice at least an hour before we announce it, which we did on Friday of last week. Thank you.

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

I want to acknowledge the tone seems to have changed in the Premier 's response towards me. I want to thank him for that because I felt very insulted by I should have known, and the fact is I think other people at the same time were insulted.

This being vetted in 2010, well, I can tell you in 2011 I asked questions specifically about what type of contribution from the NWT Housing Corporation will be made towards the Betty House. At the time the Minister of Housing had said well, geez, there's no money, the wallet is bare. So in fact this contribution seems to have come out of the air. So how are we going to correct these particular problems and where did the money come from? Because it would have been nice to be vetted in this current Assembly. Thank you.

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

I'll try to be very careful about my tone, but the money was approved in the 2009-2010 budget through Canada's Economic Action Plan. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final supplementary, Mr. Hawkins .

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Members are noting that with this development, are the Regular MLAs considered an afterthought. I want to hear clearly in the House today that with any future announcements, MLAs will be invited t