Oral Questions, Vital Statistics Act, Revolving Funds Act, Children's Law Act — 24 June 2016 (18th Assembly, 2nd Session, pp. 837–874)

2016-06-24, 18th Assembly 2nd Session, pp. 837–874

Northwest Territories — Debates (Hansard)

Debates of June 24th, 2016

This is page numbers 837-874 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was communities .

Topics

Members Present

Prayer

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Written Question 7-18(2): Joe Greenland Centre

Tabled Document 84-18(2): Government Of The Northwest Territories Response To Motion 13-18(2) Northwest Territories Disability Action Plan

Tabled Document 85-18(2): Annual Report On The Activities Of The Rental Office, April 1, 2015 To March 31, 2016

Tabled Document 86-18(2): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2016-2017

Altering Of Sitting For Monday, June 27, 2016

Bill 5:

An Act To Amend The Vital Statistics Act

Bill 6: Miscellaneous Statute Law Amendment Act, 2016

Bill 7:an Act To Amend The Revolving Funds Act

Bill 8:

An Act To Amend The Children's Law Act

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Report of Committee of the Whole

Orders of the Day

Members Present

Hon. Glen Abernethy , Mr. Beaulieu , Mr. Blake , Hon. Caroline Cochrane , Ms. Julie Green , Hon. Jackson Lafferty , Hon. Bob McLeod , Hon. Robert McLeod , Mr. McNeely , Hon. Alfred Moses , Mr. Nadli , Mr. Nakimayak , Mr. O’Reilly, Hon. Wally Schumann , Hon. Louis Sebert , Mr. Simpson , Mr. Testart , Mr. Thompson , Mr. Vanthuyne

The House met at 10:00 a.m.

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Prayer

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi.

Good morning, colleagues. Item 3, Ministers' statements. Item 4, Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Hay River South .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Wally Schumann

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to recognize the Princess Alexander School grade six students here today. I'm going to read off half the list and then my fellow colleague across the floor will do the other half. Brenda Beck, Evan Harris, Abbigail King, Hailey Pike, Rochelle Smith, Mason Walters, Hope Buckley, Hannah Longstaff, Daniel Minoza, Jon Tatti, Kyle McDermott, Judson Pokiak, Reil Low, Lizzie Rymer, Tahner Hamilton, Jenna Demarcke, Ian Aylward, Stephanie Patterson is the chaperone, Mark Harris, Penny Pokiak and Roy Walters. Welcome to the House.

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Hay River North .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

R.J. Simpson

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to welcome all the grade six students here and their chaperones. I know it's been a lot of work keeping an eye on all these kids. I’d like to welcome Lorin Durocher, Kyle Fennig-Bourque, Taylor Giovannetti, Shaelyn Mabbitt, Madison Mandeville, Ethan Pinowar, Xander Snow, Javen Walker, Halli Rai Wong-Delorey, Emily Schaub, Emily Boucher-Salter, Gaius Crook, Fiona Hope-Fabian, Dylon Larocque, Xander Lareon, Seth Martel-Beaulieu, Ashante Minoza, Kavel Wedzin, and chaperones Miranda Orr, Warren Durocher, and Joe Gagnier. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. If we missed anyone in the gallery welcome to the Chamber. It's always great to have the public in the gallery. Masi. Item 6, acknowledgements. Item 7, oral questions. Item 8, written questions. Member for Mackenzie Delta .

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Written Question 7-18(2): Joe Greenland Centre

Written Questions

Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have four questions for the Minister of Housing . I'd like to ask the Minister what type of heating system is in place at the Joe Greenland Centre in Aklavik? Also, what was the additional cost of electricity due to the use of space heaters by elders in the Joe Greenland Centre from September 1,

2015 to June 1, 2016? Also, what is the expected cost to the GNWT to install additional radiators in the recently built Joe Greenland Centre? Finally, please provide any analysis done on the feasibility of using a wood pellet heating system in the Joe Greenland Centre, including results. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Written Question 7-18(2): Joe Greenland Centre

Written Questions

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Written questions. Item 9, returns to written questions. Item 10, replies to Commissioner's opening address. Item 11, petitions. Item 12, reports of standing and special committees. Item 13, reports of committees on the review of bills. Item 14, tabling of documents. Minister of Health and Social Services .

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Tabled Document 84-18(2): Government Of The Northwest Territories Response To Motion 13-18(2) Northwest Territories Disability Action Plan

Tabling of Documents

Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to table the following document entitled "Government of the Northwest Territories Response to Motion 13-18(2): Northwest Territories Disability Action Plan." Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Tabled Document 84-18(2): Government Of The Northwest Territories Response To Motion 13-18(2) Northwest Territories Disability Action Plan

Tabling of Documents

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Tabling of documents. Minister of Justice .

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Tabled Document 85-18(2): Annual Report On The Activities Of The Rental Office, April 1, 2015 To March 31, 2016

Tabling of Documents

Louis Sebert

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, I wish to table the following document entitled "Annual Report on the Activities of the Rental Office April 1, 2015 to March 31, 2016." Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Tabled Document 85-18(2): Annual Report On The Activities Of The Rental Office, April 1, 2015 To March 31, 2016

Tabling of Documents

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Tabling of documents. Minister of Finance .

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Tabled Document 86-18(2): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2016-2017

Tabling of Documents

Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wish to table the following document entitled "Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2016-2017." Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Tabled Document 86-18(2): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2016-2017

Tabling of Documents

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Tabling of documents. Item 15, notices of motion. Item 16, notices of motion for first reading of bills. Item 17, motions. Member for Yellowknife Centre .

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Motion 21-18(2): Altering Of Sitting For Monday, June 27, 2016, Carried

Motions

Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Masi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I MOVE, seconded by the honourable Member for Great Slave , that, notwithstanding Rule 4(1) of the Rules of the Legislative Assembly of Northwest Territories, on Monday, June 27, 2016, this Assembly shall meet from 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. to transact its business;

And further

, notwithstanding Rule 6(1) of the Rules of the Legislative Assembly of the Northwest Territories, on Monday, June 27, 2016, at 12:00 p.m. the Assembly shall be interrupted by the Speaker, or if the Assembly is in Committee of the Whole by the Chair, who shall rise and report progress. The Speaker shall adjourn the Assembly and all remaining business shall stand over until the next sitting day.

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Motion 21-18(2): Altering Of Sitting For Monday, June 27, 2016, Carried

Motions

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. The motion is in order. To the motion.

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Motion 21-18(2): Altering Of Sitting For Monday, June 27, 2016, Carried

Motions

Some Hon. Members

Question.

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Motion 21-18(2): Altering Of Sitting For Monday, June 27, 2016, Carried

Motions

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried. Masi.

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Motion 21-18(2): Altering Of Sitting For Monday, June 27, 2016, Carried

Motions

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Motions. Item 18, first reading of bills. Minister of Health .

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Bill 5:

An Act To Amend The Vital Statistics Act

First Reading of Bills

Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Range Lake , that Bill 5,

An Act to Amend the Vital Statistics Act , be read for the first time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Bill 5:

An Act To Amend The Vital Statistics Act

First Reading of Bills

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Bill 5 has had first reading.

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First reading of bills. Minister of Justice .

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Bill 6: Miscellaneous Statute Law Amendment Act, 2016

First Reading of Bills

Louis Sebert

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Hay River South that Bill 6, Miscellaneous Statute Law Amendment Act, 2016 , be read for the first time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Bill 6: Miscellaneous Statute Law Amendment Act, 2016

First Reading of Bills

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Bill 6 has had first reading.

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Masi. First reading of bills. Minister of Transportation .

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Bill 7:an Act To Amend The Revolving Funds Act

First Reading of Bills

Wally Schumann

Hay River South

Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the honourable Member of Yellowknife South , that Bill 7,

An Act to Amend the Revolving Funds Act , be read for the first time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Bill 7:an Act To Amend The Revolving Funds Act

First Reading of Bills

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Bill 7 has had first reading.

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Masi. First reading of bills. Minister of Justice .

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Bill 8:

An Act To Amend The Children's Law Act

First Reading of Bills

Louis Sebert

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Yellowknife South , that Bill 8,

An Act to Amend the Children's Law Act , be read for the first time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Bill 8:

An Act To Amend The Children's Law Act

First Reading of Bills

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Bill 8 has had first reading.

---Carried

Masi. First reading of bills. Item 19, second reading of bills. Item 20, consideration in Committee of the Whole of bills and other matters: Tabled Document 50-18(2) with Member for Hay River North in the chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. What is the wish of committee? Mr. Beaulieu .

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, committee wishes to consider Tabled Document 50-18(2), Main Estimates, 2016-2017, and we'd like to continue consideration of Municipal and Community Affairs to Legislative Assembly and Finance.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . Does committee agree?

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

R.J. Simpson

We will begin with our consideration of the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs. We had opening remarks yesterday, so would the Minister like to bring witnesses into the Chamber? Minister McLeod.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Yes, I would, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

R.J. Simpson

Sergeant-at-Arms, please escort the witnesses into the Chamber. Minister, would you please introduce your witnesses.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I have with me today to my left Mr. Tom Williams, the deputy minister of Municipal and Community Affairs. To my immediate right I have Ms. Eleanor Young who is the assistant deputy minister of Municipal and Community Affairs. To my far right I have Mr. Gary Schauerte who is our director of corporate services. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Municipal and Community Affairs begins on page 319, that's the department total. As usual, we'll defer this page until we consider the detail. We'll begin with the detail on page 320, revenue

summary. I'll give committee a moment. Are there any questions? Questions on page 320? Mr. O'Reilly .

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. There's a number of fees that the department collects through licences and so on, are those reviewed on an annual basis and do we compare ourselves to other jurisdictions as well? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly . Minister McLeod.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. We do review these fees annually. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. O'Reilly .

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. The Minister answered the question about the annual review part but how do we compare against other jurisdictions in terms of our fees and licence payments and so on? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

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R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly . Minister.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, we review them annually. I might ask Mr. Schauerte to expand on how the review takes place. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Schauerte.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Schauerte

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Our fees are settled in regulation. The fees are based on the cost of doing business. We reference the YERG principle in terms of setting our fees, which reflects what the cost is for our department to conduct this business, to issue the appropriate business licence or document in that regard. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Schauerte. Mr. O'Reilly .

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I appreciate the response from the department. So the cost recovery is a consideration. Do we look at what other jurisdictions charge for these services as well? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

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R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly . Minister.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, the Member is correct. We do look at what other jurisdictions charge. Mr. Schauerte pointed out that there is a bit of a cost recovery. If Members are interested, I am sure we can provide a document that compares our fees to other jurisdictions. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. Yes, I would be interested in seeing that sort of document. There is obviously no sort of urgency, now we have a number of other things. If the department could provide that, even in conjunction with the next business plan, that would be helpful. Thanks, Mr. Chair. That is all I have.

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No. Fine, Mr. Chair. We have committed to providing the document, and we will do that. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Herbert Nakimayak

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, my question is for the line on School of Community Government. For 2014-15, it shows at $3.29 million. For 2016-17, it shows $2.9 million. Can the Minister identify the cuts from last year to this year? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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Thank you, Mr. Nakimayak . We are deferring the page 319 with that line item until the end. Right now we are on 320. Comments or questions as to page 320, the revenue

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Can the Minister tell us if all are any vacancies presently with the hundred positions? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair. We had eight vacancies as of March 31st. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair. I thank the Minister for his answer. When will these positions be filled? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I am not sure as to the status of the positions at the moment, whether they are out for competition or not. I will gather that information, and I will share it with the Member personally. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Mr. Chair, no further questions. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Thompson . Any other comments or questions on page 321, the active position

summary? Seeing none, we will begin with community governance. It begins on page 323. We will defer that page until we discuss the detail on page 324, community governance, active positions. Questions on page 324? Seeing none, back to page 323, community governance, operations expenditure

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I think this might be the right page to ask the question, what progress is being made on the revolving funds for communities to assist residents with energy efficient measures. My understanding is there would be a legislative change required. What is the status of that? Thank you.

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I will ask Ms. Young to respond to that. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair. We are just initiating our research across jurisdictions on how this may or may not be done in other jurisdictions. It will likely require an amendment to our municipal legislation to effect such a change.

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Thank you, Ms. Young. I will just remind all Members and witnesses to make sure the red light is on before you begin speaking, and just let us know when you are done so that the audio techs can switch the microphones over. Ms. Green .

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Julie Green

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Thank you, Mr. Chair. Could the Minister please indicate the timing for producing this report and the next steps? Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair. There is no definite date yet. It is kind of a long-term project. I will keep Members up to date as to the work that we do. If we do have any definite timelines, I will definitely share them with the Members. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair. I appreciate that response. Is this an issue that is likely to be addressed in the life of this Assembly? Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, we will have the research done during the life of this Assembly, and then we will make a determination of whether it is viable and if it is something that will work here in our jurisdiction but the research itself will be done. We will share that with Members and get some feedback from the Members as well. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just as a point of clarification, I felt that the deputy minister had said that the research was just finishing. If that is the case, then it seems like finishing the research in the life of the Assembly is just about a done deal. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair. The research may be finishing, but there is still a bit of work that needs to be done. As I said before, once we get that work completed, we will share it with Members, and then we will determine next steps from there with the input from the Members. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chair. My next questions have to do with community governance. I understand that there were some financial operational reviews conducted in the last fiscal year. I am wondering what the findings are of those reviews and whether there are any other reviews planned for this year. Thank you.

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, the Member is correct. The audits were done. We have a couple of communities that are facing some challenges. I am not sure if it is appropriate to speak to those particular communities in a public forum such as this. If we enter into a briefing with committee, I would be glad to share some of the information, some of the details.

Through the accountability framework, we are going to have the capacity now to pick up a lot of these issues soon. That will prevent a lot of our communities, as in the past, from getting into any financial difficulties. We will be able to identify sooner and then work with the communities and get them into a good financial position. If we provide a briefing to the Members or if the Member would like a conversation with myself, I can share some of the particulars. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I welcome both the proactive approach that the Minister is taking to helping communities before they get further into disarray. Certainly, I will talk to my colleagues on Government Operations to see if they would like a private briefing. My second question is: are there audits contemplated for this year as well? Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair. The audits are done every year. Then we review the audits. We have conversations with the communities if we need to but the audits are done every year. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Thank you for that clarification. Those are all of my questions.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I would like to follow up on my colleague's questions about changes to the Cities, Towns and Villages Act to enable the tax-based municipalities to use local improvement charges for energy retrofit purposes. I heard from the department that they are doing research. I understood this was a fairly simple amendment that is being requested. The NWTAC is on record as requesting this change. What is the scope of the research that is being undertaken? Why can't we get this done a lot quicker than four years? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, we would like to try to get this in as quickly as possible. As I said before, we are doing our research. If that shows us that we are able to get this piece of legislation through or the amount of work that might be required to get this piece of legislation through, that is something that we will obviously consider. Let us finish the research, and then we will make a determination from there. I don't think we are that far from finishing. Let us do that. Then we will make a determination at that time if it is just a quick fix to make an amendment. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Thanks, Mr. Chair. I am just trying to understand the scope of this research. Is the department looking at a total review of the CTV Act or just this specific very small change that is being requested to allow the tax-based municipalities to have the authority to use local improvement charges for this very specific purpose? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair. I will refer that to Deputy Minister Williams. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair. Certainly, there is some urgency from the Member to move it forward with opening the CTV Act to allow this legislation to be put in place, or amendments to the legislation. By opening the CTV Act, there are a lot of other amendments that are required as well, so it doesn't make sense just to open it for one piece. We have a number of items being raised by NWTAC over the years that we have to consider as well. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Thanks, Mr. Chair. I was a bit worried about that. I will just consider what I am going to do about that. Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly . Further comments or questions on page 323? Mr. Vanthuyne .

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The department can correct me if I am wrong in asking this question in this division, but I think this is okay. The description says this division is also responsible for the assessment of all land and improvements in the Northwest Territories. My question is relative to the mandate document item 3.1.2 where we state, "We will support community-based planning to help make land available for the construction of affordable housing."

In my former political life as a councillor for the city of Yellowknife, I know that the city had made an application to the department for a greater land application, in fact, for this purpose, to make more land available so that the city can do better long-term planning, in most part to support affordable housing. I wonder if the department can maybe provide some explanation as to why, to date, the greater land applications for the capital city do not pass and that the city is in fact in a position where they have to continually apply for piecemealed properties or piecemeal pieces of land on an as-and-when basis, rather than accepting the greater land applications. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Robert C. McLeod

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I will refer that to Ms. Young. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair. The process you are referring to, with the city approaching the department, was when the department had the responsibility for Commissioner's land within the department. So that issue was related to accessing commissioner's land. With Lands now being its own department, the question about dealing with lands itself would need to be addressed with the Department of Lands. Our role through this division is to support community governments in developing land use plans. We would support them with helping them hire consultants, reviewing the plans, and functions such as that. So our role no longer is related specifically to the access of land.

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Cory Vanthuyne

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Thank you, Mr. Chair. It seems that the Minister of Lands got off the hook yesterday. It is the same Minister…can't we just get -- no, I'm kidding.

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Those will be my questions. I appreciate the response. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Vanthuyne . Anything further? Seeing nothing. I'll call the page. Municipal and Community Affairs, community governance, operations expenditure

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Committee agrees. We will move on to community operations. The activity total is on page 326, but we will consider the detail beginning on page 327. Questions on page 327, community operations, grants, contributions and transfers. I want to thank the PA grade six class for joining us. I hope you have a good time watching our exciting proceedings. Do we have any comments or questions on page 327? Seeing none. Moving on to -- oh, Mr. O'Reilly .

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. So I notice that there is a contribution that took place in 2014-15, Management of drinking water in the NWT for $50,000, but there's no further funding provided for that purpose. Was that money that we received from another order of government, or are we continuing to support the function in some other way? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair. It's a reduction, but we do support the community in other ways. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Thanks, Mr. Chair. I'm sure the Minister can probably guess my next questions, but so what are the ways that we actually support communities in protecting drinking water, if we're not allocating $50,000 for it anymore? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, this was money that was to help the communities as they applied for water licenses, and they do have some money through the money we provide to them. So we provide them with some technical assistance and some administrative assistance, and I can assure the Member that the quality of the drinking water across the Northwest Territories, with the work that the communities have done building their own water treatment plants, is very good, and they've done a really good job with that. It was for water licenses, and they use the money that they have now, and we support them with our regional and headquarters staff. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I don't want to prolong this, so communities can use the funding that they get from MACA, which has incrementally increased, and that's a good thing, and I know even in this budget, but they can use those funds to support their participation in water licensing and whatever? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, Mr. Chair, the Member is correct. They do use the money that we provide to them to apply for their water licensing. As I said before, we do support them technically and administratively when we can. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair. I appreciate the responses, and that's all I've got on this, thanks.

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

In regards to this program, is this an expense through their water/sewer subsidy, or is it something else? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair. They can use water/sewer or they can use their O and M funding. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Thank you, Mr. Thompson . Anything further, page 327? Seeing none. We'll move to page 328, community operations, active positions. Questions on this page, 328? Seeing none. We will go back to page 326, the activity total. Questions on page 326, community operations, operations expenditure

summary? Seeing none. I'll call the page. Municipal and Community Affairs, community operations, operations expenditure

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We'll move on to directorate. The activity total is on page 330, but we'll begin with discussion of the detail on 331. Comments or questions on 331? Mr. O'Reilly .

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I know it's not a big decrease, but it looks like there's $10,000 less for contributions here. It looks like this money is going to NWTAC, LGANT and Arctic Energy Alliance. The $10,000 reduction, is that any of those specific organizations? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair. That money was a reduction to the contribution to NWTAC. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Thanks, Mr. Chair. So what's the total funding that NWTAC receives from MACA? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair. It was $280,000, but it is now $270,000. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Thanks, Mr. Chair. Any complaints or issues from NWTAC with the reduced funding level? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, actually there was none. The NWTAC, LGANT, and some of the organizations that we make contributions to recognize that there may be some reductions coming, and they were willing to do their part, looking at the bigger picture, understanding that, you know, we were trying to do what we can to free up more money that we can allocate to the community governments as per the formula funding reviews. So they were cooperative and -- I mean, nobody likes reductions, obviously, but there wasn't a wholesale complaint to this reduction. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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No questions at this time.

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Any further questions on page 331? Seeing none. Information item on page 332. Seeing none. We shall go back to activity total on page 330. Municipal and Community Affairs, directorate, operations expenditure

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Agreed. Moving on to page 334, Municipal and Community Affairs, public safety, operations expenditure

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R.J. Simpson

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Chair. As the Minister knows, I brought this up in the House the other day. The ground ambulance and highway rescue. I see it's being cut from $400,000 to $185,000. Was this $400,000 fully subscribed last year? I'll start with that.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair. The answer is no, it wasn't fully subscribed to. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Simpson .

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R.J. Simpson

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Chair. So there was $400,000 available, and I know that the town of Hay River is lacking funding in this area. Why wasn't all the money allocated, if it was budgeted? Because there are governments in need. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, this is an application-based program and they can apply for up to $40,000. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Thank you, Minister McLeod. Any further questions, Mr. Simpson ?

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Hay River North

Yes, thank you. So does the Minister know how much was doled out of the $400,000? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Thank you, Mr. Simpson . Minister McLeod?

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, we're just trying to pull out that information, but I can assure the Member it wasn't fully subscribed to. We will get the exact number, the exact amount, and we'll share it with the Member. If I talk long enough, they might be able to pull it up in the briefing notes. So I'll just let you know that the NHL draft is tonight and we're hoping that Toronto makes a good pick and can plan their Stanley Cup parade for next year. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Thank you, Mr. McLeod, for that update. Any further questions? Mr. Simpson .

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R.J. Simpson

Hay River North

Yes, thank you. Is this fund, can it be subscribed to and applied for and the community get $40,000 as they save up to purchase a new vehicle? Because I know one of the big expenses is the capital cost. So can they apply over four or five years, get that $40,000, bank it, and put it towards the purchase of a new vehicle? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, the Member is correct. I mean, they can apply for it every year. They can bank it, and they can also supplement it with their O and M funding or their capital funding as well, to offset the cost. The Member is absolutely correct, they can bank it. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Hay River North

Nothing further right now. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Thank you, Mr. Simpson . Committee, any further questions on page 335? Mr. Nadli .

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just was kind of curious about this program initiative, too. Assuming that we live on the highway, plus at the same time of course there are needed resources at the local level. So if not the success of this program being application-based and making it available for community governments to access at least some supplementary funds to at least keep their operations going in terms of providing ground ambulances, especially for communities along the highway. If the application base is not working, not succeeding, is the department considering perhaps a program initiative?

This is a vital and critical need in terms of ensuring that, you know, we have a mode of transportation for people that would travel on the highway or else in the local community. Thank you.

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, and that's part of the work we did when we did the review. One of the challenges that we face in the communities is that they may want the equipment that they need, but there's some training capacity. They need some training. There was also a liability issue. We've actually had a community sell an ambulance that they had bought, when they realized there was a huge liability without the proper training. We've tried to make training available through the School of Community Government. I think in conjunction with DOT, we've made some training available to help build up the capacity so people can be first responders.

The review was done, and communities came to realize that there was a liability in trying to provide ground ambulance or highway rescue services without the proper training, so we continue to address that. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Chair. This has been an ongoing initiative for some time. I understood that there was some inter-department cooperation involving another department that's culminated in this program initiative and its application base. Surely we've identified the challenges, namely the capacity issue and the need for training, at the same time, liability issues.

What is the department doing to at least mitigate those challenges, to ensure that the ground ambulances are made available, at least the resources, at the local level? Thank you.

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, the department, as I said before, has done some community-based first responder training to -- we want to improve the capacity of our staff and volunteers; and then also a web-based tool kit to help communities recruit and train volunteer first responders. Then we have the, we had the, work that was just done, and they identified some challenges that we're facing. I mean, I can assure the Member and all Members, actually, that we recognize that this is a service that's required by some communities, but then we also respect the communities' desire to have more training so that they can be first responders without the liability.

There are opportunities for communities through some of the funding that they receive from the department, along with applying for the pot of funding here, the $185,000 pot of funding, to help them with some of their capital costs that they may require to provide this service. The big one is to build the capacity so they can be first responders. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Chair. It is concerning that there's a reduction from $400,000 to $185,000. What is the long-term vision that the department has in terms of providing the services to local governments? At the same time, what are some immediate priorities to make those funds are publicly known and ensure that communities can access them? Thank you.

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, the communities are aware of the money that's available through this particular grant and contribution. They are aware of the funding. The long-term goal is to see as many communities that may be on the highway system, or any community for that matter, have the capacity, the training and the equipment they need to provide this service. We will work with them.

If we come to a point where we have to come back to the Assembly to enhance the pot because we have more people that are trained up and more communities that are wanting to access this money, then it's something that we will consider at the appropriate time. Right now the communities recognize that they have some challenges, and we're helping them to try and address those challenges. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Nadli .

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Chair. No further questions.

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R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Nadli . Next, Mr. Thompson . Sorry, Mr. McNeely .

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

No, I didn't have my hand up there, Mr. Chair.

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R.J. Simpson

Well, perhaps it's Mr. Testart then. Mr. Testart .

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just had questions for the consumer affairs division. Are we on page 334 or still on -- no? Okay. I'll wait. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Thank you, Mr. Testart . Mr. Thompson .

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just in regards to following up with Mr. Nadli 's questions, I guess there was a struggle I'm trying to understand. There's who owns or who is responsible for what. So ground transportation and highway rescue, is MACA's responsibility, DPW's responsibility - or Department of Transportation's responsibility, or Health and Social Services' responsibility? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Collection	Northwest Territories — Debates (Hansard)
Citation	2016-06-24, 18th Assembly 2nd Session, pp. 837–874
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