Debates of June 1st, 2009

This is page numbers 3149 - 3180 of the Hansard for the 16th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was species .

Topics

Oral Questions

Members Present

Prayer

Minister’s Statement 75-16(3): The Nature Journal

Minister’s Statement 76-16(3): Tourism Week 2009

Minister’s Statement 77-16(3): Health And Social Services Career Website Launch

Minister’s Statement 78-16(3): Community Government Capacity Building

Protection Of Subsistence Harvesting Sites

Dettah Road Construction

Update On Atco Proposal

Runway Lights For Jean Marie River And Nahanni Butte

Federal Investment In The NWT

Update On Atco Proposal

Housing Development Plan For Tu Nedhe Communities

Evictions From Public Housing Units

Medical Travel Cancellations

Summer Student Hiring Process

Designation Of The Mackenzie River As A Canadian Heritage Site

Recognition Of Kristin Chapman Youth Bowling National Champion

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Update On Atco Proposal

Designation Of Mackenzie River As Canadian Heritage Site

Conflict Between Ferry Operations And Subsistence Harvester

Summer Student Hiring Process

Dettah Road Construction

Medical Travel Cancellations

Update On Atco Proposal

Public Housing Evictions

Airport Runway Lights In Jean Marie River And Nahanni Butte

Development Of Housing Plan In Tu Nedhe

Federal Investment In NWT

Committee Report 7-16(3): Report On The Review Of Bill 6, Species At Risk (NWT) Act

Motion To Receive Committee Report 7-16(3) And Move Into Committee Of The Whole

Committee Report 8-16(3): Report On The Evaluation Of The Use Of Laptop Computers In The Legislative Assembly

Motion To Receive Committee Report 8-16(3) And Move Into Committee Of The Whole

Bill 13:

An Act To Amend The Commissioner’s Land Act

Tabled Document 49-16(3): My Nature Journal

Establishment Of A Special Committee To Review The Child And Family Services Act

Tabled Document 50-16(3): Letter From Ms. Margaret Nazon To Mr. Michael Mcleod, Minister Of Transportation, Dated May 12, 2009

Bill 17: Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 4, 2008-2009

Bill 18: Supplementary Appropriation Act (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2009-2010

Bill 19: Supplementary Appropriation Act (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2009-2010

Bill 17: Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 4, 2008-2009

Bill 18: Supplementary Appropriation Act (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2009-2010

Bill 19: Supplementary Appropriation Act (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2009-2010

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Rules And Procedures Report 8-16(3): Computers In The Legislative Assembly

Government Operations Report 6-16(3): Support For Findings And Recommendations

Government Operations Report 6-16(3): GNWT Response To Report Within 120 Days

Report of Committee of the Whole

Bill 14:

An Act To Amend The Motor Vehicles Act

Bill 17: Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 4, 2008-2009

Bill 18: Supplementary Appropriation Act (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2009-2010

Bill 19: Supplementary Appropriation Act (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2009-2010

Orders of the Day

The House met at 1:37 p.m.

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Prayer

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Good afternoon, colleagues. Welcome back to the Chamber. Orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers’ statements. The honourable Minister of Environment and Natural Resources , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Minister’s Statement 75-16(3): The Nature Journal

Ministers’ Statements

Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, the Government of the Northwest Territories recognizes the importance of educating our youth about the natural environment so they may manage the land for future generations with knowledge and respect. As part of Managing this Land Strategic Initiative, the department acknowledged the importance of educating our youth to understand and embrace sound stewardship values, to ensure the continued health and wealth of our land and Territory into the future.

At the appropriate time today, Mr. Speaker, I will be tabling a copy of The Nature Journal, a learning aid and resource tool for students to learn about the land and environment. The Nature Journal was developed for NWT youth by the forest management division of the Department of Environment and Natural Resources. The Nature Journal will give our youth a way to connect with their environments. It will allow them to reflect on and value nature and encourage them to learn about their land and environment.

The Nature Journal provides ideas and activities for exploration and is organized around seasonal themes. One of the activities is to pick a tree to observe over the course of a year. It is hoped youth will draw, write and make wishes for their tree and carry out explorations about some of the animals and birds that inhabit the woodlands near their homes.

Mr. Speaker, in his book, The Last Child in the Woods, author Richard Louv reflects on the disconnection between youth and nature as a result of the growing use of technology. Video games, television and computers are keeping youth indoors

and there are real concerns about the growing disconnect between them and nature. We see it frequently in the North. Children are spending less time outdoors. There is simply no place for them to plug in, so they do not want to go outside. Richard Louv described this phenomenon as a nature deficit disorder. He coined this phrase as a result of research he carried out to determine the extent of this disconnect and consequences of this behaviour. This research has spawned a movement where students and parents are taking measures to ensure that youth spend more time outdoors learning and playing.

“Young children learn through sound, sense and seasons of the outdoors,” said Mr. Louv, and the best way is through unstructured exploration and play. More and more educational materials and programs are being developed that focus on connecting children and nature in more meaningful ways. The Nature Journal is intended to provide youth in the NWT with more opportunities to get outdoors, to explore, touch, feel, smell, and hear the sounds and sights of nature.

The Nature Journal can be used by individuals, in group activities, or by teachers to enrich classroom learning. The concepts and information in the journal are northern based and focus on northern ecosystems and biological conditions. A plan is being developed to distribute and promote The Nature Journal in public libraries and schools throughout the North. I hope that this learning aid will be of value to our youth and I look forward to hearing about its use on the land and in the forests of the NWT.

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Minister’s Statement 75-16(3): The Nature Journal

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . The honourable Minister responsible for Industry, Tourism and Investment , Mr. Bob McLeod .

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Minister’s Statement 76-16(3): Tourism Week 2009

Ministers’ Statements

Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, this is Tourism Week in Canada. It is a chance for us to highlight the tremendous importance of this sector to our national and local economies, and to our lives as Canadians. More than any other sector in the Northwest Territories, tourism offers spin-off benefits and the potential to establish and grow

viable and sustainable ventures in every one of our 33 communities.

Last season, tourism contributed over $137.9 million to the Northwest Territories economy; not just to individual owners and operators, but to service suppliers in accommodations, transportation, the food and beverage industry, travel trade, and the conference sector. This is one of the reasons why our government is investing almost $8 million into tourism in the coming fiscal year.

An agreement signed last month between Canada’s three territories and the Canadian Tourism Commission will help us optimize opportunities and cost savings by marketing the Northwest Territories tourism product along with the Yukon and Nunavut under the shared identity as Canada’s North. It is an agreement that will provide valuable dividends as we work to capitalize on unprecedented opportunities to raise the profile of the Northwest Territories at the 2010 Olympics and Paralympics in Vancouver.

The government’s Tourism 2010 Plan and the $15 million it represents in direct and leveraged investment is one of the most significant commitments ever made for tourism in the Northwest Territories. The introduction of the Tourism Diversification and Marketing Program last year is another good example of our tourism dollars in action and has enabled many of our operators to take steps to re-invent or expand their products and operations to meet the trends and demands that we anticipate will provide growth for our tourism industry in the future.

This summer, Industry, Tourism and Investment is offering marine safety training courses to tourism operators and their guides to ensure that they meet the new regulations that have been implemented by Transport Canada. These tourism-based initiatives and others are the tools with which we are working to balance and increase the diversity of the Northwest Territories’ economy, maximizing opportunities and contributing to an improvement in the quality of life for all Northwest Territories residents.

Tourism counts in our economy. In the next few weeks you’ll be seeing public service announcements on television reminding people about the importance of this industry and what it means to our Territory in employment and diversification.

This Wednesday, as part of the national celebration in Ottawa, the Tourism Industry Association of Canada will announce distinguished Canadians who will be inducted into the Canadian Tourism Hall of Fame. This honour publically recognizes individuals who have made tourism their life’s work and made a positive impact on the industry. I am proud to say that the names of Merlyn and Jean

Carter, founders of Carter Air Services, and Nonacho Lake Lodge have been included on the list.

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The Carters pioneered our fishing industry and Merlyn was mentor to many bush pilots who have gone on to great success. Exceptional service, leadership, and integrity will always be associated with the Carter name here in the North. Congratulations to Jean and her family.

I would like to take the time today to recognize the board and staff of Northwest Territories Tourism who, in its role as our destination marketing organization, is an important and valued partner in our efforts on behalf of the tourism sector. As well, I would like to recognize the work of CDETNO, who market the Northwest Territories to our French speaking audience.

And finally, I would like to acknowledge the efforts of my departmental staff who are working with and on behalf of our tourism industry to deliver training programs and services.

I would like to pay tribute to the hardworking men and women who make up the Northwest Territories tourism industry. At every level, these individuals’ determination, strength, and resilience have built our industry, and their service and reputation are the face of our Territory to the world.

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Minister’s Statement 76-16(3): Tourism Week 2009

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Minister responsible for Health and Social Services , Ms. Lee .

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Minister’s Statement 77-16(3): Health And Social Services Career Website Launch

Ministers’ Statements

Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am pleased to announce the launch of a new career website for the Department of Health and Social Services. The Department of Health and Social Services, in collaboration with the Department of Human Resources, has developed a recruitment and retention website, www.practicenorth.ca, aimed at current and potential Health and Social Services professionals in the Northwest Territories. Www.practicenorth.ca will become the central recruitment backbone of the department, complementing the department’s existing activities and acting as a content hub for existing and potential recruits.

Eighty percent of job seekers now use the Internet as a primary resource for employer information and to locate appropriate opportunities. We need to attract these on-line candidates and this new website will help us do so. We know that almost everyone has access to the Internet either from school, home, or work, public cafes, and libraries. Www.practicenorth.ca will extend the department’s

recruitment initiatives on-line and communicate directly with candidates.

The career website will contain up-to-date dynamic information pertaining to living in the NWT and working in the NWT as health and social service professionals. Potential recruits and professionals across the NWT will have access to information about career enrichment, including bursary applications and professional development initiatives, and quick access to job opportunities and contacts within each of the NWT’s eight health authorities.

Www.practicenorth.ca will also use peer-to-peer stories to develop a clearer understanding about the work-life balance of a health and social service professional in the NWT. This

section will provide potential candidates with an opportunity to hear first hand personal experiences from our health and social service professionals in the NWT.

The career website is an important step forward and it is an important part of responding to and recruiting today’s professionals. The career website applies relationship marketing that will pull potential candidates to the information they are interested in, rather than pushing the information out to non-segmented markets through traditional forms of recruitment.

As we continue to compete with all other provinces and territories in recruiting health and social services professionals, I am confident this new website will provide us with technological advantage that will complement our existing recruiting methods.

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Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee . The honourable Minister responsible for Municipal and Community Affairs , Mr. Robert McLeod .

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Minister’s Statement 78-16(3): Community Government Capacity Building

Ministers’ Statements

Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In February 2009 I spoke to Members about the challenges that community governments face as they assume increased authority and responsibility. The skills required to manage and govern a local community in the Northwest Territories have expanded significantly and many community governments are challenged to recruit and retain capable staff.

Capacity challenges are not just limited to small communities. All communities can face capacity challenges at some point and capacity is not static. A once stable, well functioning community can be challenged after a turnover of management, staff, and council.

I am pleased to confirm that in collaboration with the Minister of Human Resources , the Honourable Bob McLeod , we are partnering with the Northwest

Territories Association of Communities and the Local Government Administrators of the NWT to look at how we can strengthen the capacity of local government administrators and also ensure that local elected leaders have the skills they need to enable staff to implement their vision and maintain stability in the local government. This public service capacity initiative will support initiatives that sustain local government administration and also help local leaders to recognize what they need to do to hire and keep their key staff.

During the recent Northwest Territories Association of Communities’ Annual General Meeting in Inuvik, MACA sought advice and direction of delegates on how new programs that support building capacity can best be implemented to meet community government needs and interests. The one hour on the AGM’s busy agenda that was dedicated to this consultation stretched well beyond the allotted timeslot as leaders and administrators provided rich insights, recommendations and advice that will help guide the design of strategies to build capacity.

In addition, the first elected training session took place a day before the AGM on roles and responsibilities and codes and conflict. I would like to commend the 47 mayors and councillors, almost double the number who registered in advance, who took the time to participate in the elected leaders training. Building their skills as leaders is an important part of building overall government capacity.

Based on the advice we received, work will now begin on developing strategies, including an intern program that would offer communities funding to hire a qualified intern who would be supported to learn from the local government administrator, and a mentorship program that would establish a network where senior administration officers and band managers in the NWT can connect with each other for support and advice as they address issues and challenges. Other potential supports include a handbook and tool kit that would provide go-to resources that can assist local government administrators on all issues related to the requirements of the job.

Capacity challenges can affect all of our communities, and because our communities and our challenges are diverse, the strategies that we develop will need to be broad and flexible to respond meaningfully to the wide range of issues facing community governments, and to provide appropriate levels of support.

Mr. Speaker, when we talk about refocusing government, and we talk about improving human resource management, we need to focus on the long term. Building local government capacity is not a short-term issue that will be resolved within a year or two. This is a long-term partnership that requires

a multi-pronged approach with a range of strategies in order to make a difference.

I’m very optimistic about the opportunities this initiative is going to open up as we move forward collectively. MACA’s commitment to building community capacity will ensure that community governments are able to lead effectively while remaining responsive, resilient, vibrant and sustainable. I look forward to providing regular updates to committee and Members on the activities undertaken as part of this very important initiative. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Item 3, Members’ statement. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Krutko .

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Protection Of Subsistence Harvesting Sites

Members’ Statements

David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Gwich’in and Inuvialuit people have been harvesting for thousands of years in the Mackenzie Delta, Beaufort Sea area in regard to their ability to sustain themselves in regard to hunting, trapping and fishing. Mr. Speaker, throughout the history of the North we have seen where communities were built where peoples’ camps were located, where they raised their families by way of hunting and fishing.

Mr. Speaker, throughout the Northwest Territories, these sites still exist. Families still enjoy the summers, going out to their fish camps or going out to their trappers’ cabins to continue on with their subsistence harvesting, but, more importantly, carrying out a cultural way of life.

Mr. Speaker, this government must do everything it can within the government, within its departments, and must acknowledge and understand the importance of subsistence harvesting for the aboriginal people in the Northwest Territories. Mr.

Speaker, whenever there’s a conflict between government priorities or government initiatives which has a direct implication on subsistence harvesting, regardless of affecting someone’s ability to set a net, in regards to where a family’s cabin was for hundreds of years, where people have harvested in those locations, and more importantly, where the land claim agreements have specifically identified areas of special harvesting for those aboriginal groups in those areas.

Mr. Speaker, I’m talking about a particular conflict that I’ve been dealing with for the last number of years, along with the Minister of Transportation and the Department of Transportation, and it’s in regards to the Nazon camp on the Inuvik side of the Mackenzie River, which was there long before the

highway was even built. This is a camp that continues to be used by the Nazon family every summer to fish. Yet, Mr. Speaker, the last number of years the government has moved the ferry operations closer and closer to the camp’s embankment and the locations where they used to set their nets.

Mr. Speaker, this government has to acknowledge, find ways of resolving these disputes and not to have to continue to stand up in this House and talk about something that all it will take is the Department of Transportation to move back to where they’ve been offloading their ferries for the last 15 years and, more importantly, move 50 yards down the road, or 50 feet down from where they’re located right now, so you avoid this conflict.

Mr. Speaker, I will be asking the Minister of Transportation questions. Thank you.

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Protection Of Subsistence Harvesting Sites

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko . The honourable Member for Weledeh , Mr. Bromley .

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Dettah Road Construction

Members’ Statements

Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, a supplementary appropriation approved by this House is devoting $2 million for reconstruction of the Dettah road this year, with the expectation of further funds next year. The people of Dettah and all who travel there heartily welcome the beginning of the work to build a proper road to this growing community. As anyone who drives the road knows, the work is sorely needed. Making this road construction a priority for use of the Building Canada Fund monies is an encouraging demonstration of our determination to make this project happen.

We’re making an excellent start and moving to act for a group of people who, despite their proximity to our capital, have been ignored for too long.

Mr. Speaker, my understanding is that considerably more than $2 million or even $4 million will be needed to bring the road up to a serviceable standard. I will ask the Minister later to report to this House on the amount of the latest cost estimate for the entire work. In any event, the cost can’t have gone down and $2 million won’t take the work even halfway to completion.

Mr. Speaker, there have also been some creative proposals for making the road construction a capacity-building and training development project possibly involving the Yellowknives Dene First Nation, Deton’cho and the Mine Training Society. A project that prepares local partners to take on further major contracting opportunities, such as the eventual realignment of the Ingraham Trail around the Giant Mine property, would add considerable value to the project. Road construction would not only provide its major primary benefits to Dettah

residents and other users, it would pave the way to greater opportunities by growing our local capacity to take on major contracts.

Mr. Speaker, I congratulate the Minister and this House for assigning the funds to get this project underway. I ask the Minister and all Members to recognize that when we start something with strong commitment, we need to keep that priority alive right through to project completion. Perhaps we will have more access to federal dollars to help us in this work. Whatever the source of funding and whoever our partners are, I ask that we be prepared to maintain our commitment to the project and spend good money after good, right through to project completion. Mahsi.

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Dettah Road Construction

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . The honourable Member for Great Slave , Mr. Abernethy .

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Update On Atco Proposal

Members’ Statements

Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, last Friday the Union of Northern Workers and the Public Service Alliance of Canada held a demonstration outside of this Legislature in opposition of the sale of the NWT Power Corporation to ATCO. They are very clear: The NWT Power Corporation is owned by all residents of the Northwest Territories. It’s our asset and it must remain a public asset. I agree with them.

History has shown that selling public power corporations to private interest has not resulted in lower power rates for residents over the long term. Just look at the results of the sale of the Yukon Power Corp to private interests. In the end, rates went up to the residents of the Yukon who were previously the owners of their public corporation. In Nova Scotia the province is in the process of reversing the sale of their public power corporation. They’re buying it back after the sale to private interests drove the cost of power up.

Ultimately, I believe that the two reviews that Cabinet are currently conducting are good first steps in finding ways to improve the provision of power throughout the Northwest Territories and, hopefully, reduce the costs of power for all residents. I look forward to the findings of these reviews.

I also support the ATCO review. I believe that it would be irresponsible not to conduct a comprehensive review of a proposal of this magnitude. I don’t believe we should sell the Power Corporation. Conducting this review, in my opinion, will help this government assess future opportunities and possibly identify some improvements which are required within our Power Corporation. All reasonable ideas and suggestions should be considered.

Having said that, I know the confusion still exists. During my discussions with individuals participating in the demonstration, I was asked some specific questions on process that I need to have clarified later today.

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Update On Atco Proposal

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . The honourable Member from Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Runway Lights For Jean Marie River And Nahanni Butte

Members’ Statements

Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I want to go back to something I raised in February in this House and that is the need for the runway lights in Jean Marie River and Nahanni Butte. In my recent tour to these communities, I found that concerns on this matter are growing. For the most part, these communities are reached by air, and the lack of runway lights diminishes the safety for air travel for residents. Lack of runway lights can also make it difficult for essential services, such as emergency medevac, to travel to Jean Marie and Nahanni Butte at night or during inclement weather. Thus, a resident or visitor may be left without necessary emergency care.

Most community airports across the NWT are equipped with basic infrastructure, such as adequate runways, navigational aids and runway lighting. This ensures that communities can be safely accessed by air 24 hours a day year round. The Minister of Transportation has stated that public safety is the number one priority in his department. Airport runway lights are a matter of public safety.

I ask the Minister to make a commitment to include airport runway lights for Jean Marie and Nahanni Butte in the 2010-2011 capital plan of his department. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . The honourable Member from Kam Lake , Mr. Ramsay .

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Federal Investment In The NWT

Members’ Statements

David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I want to speak about the Government of the Northwest Territories’ efforts in securing federal investment in our Territory. For four years we heard former Premier Joe Handley tell us the Deh Cho Bridge project was contingent on the federal government coming forward to help us pay for that bridge. We waited and waited for that investment and, obviously, none came and the government decided we would pay for it ourselves. Mr. Speaker, we will be paying for that bridge upwards of $4 million a year every year indexed for the next 35 years.

Mr. Speaker, why didn’t the federal government step in with a sizeable effort? The GNWT is now left holding that bag, and it’s a very expensive bag, for 35 years. Last fall people in our Territory were very excited that the Prime Minister and many other federal Cabinet Ministers were in Inuvik, a big announcement was coming and many here were hoping that this announcement was for funding for the Mackenzie Valley Highway, the Deh Cho Bridge or some other big investment in our Territory. However, what we received was an announcement of a new icebreaker to be named after former Prime Minister John Diefenbaker.

I can’t say, Mr. Speaker, that I blame the federal government entirely. It points to the fact that we need to get our act together politically here in the Northwest Territories to ensure we can present a common message and front to the federal government.

Some recent examples of how our neighbours in the Yukon have been very successful in getting substantial investments have led me to believe that the Yukon government seems to understand how Ottawa works. The Yukon has, in the last couple of years, received some very big investments, like the $28 million for the Canada Games Complex in Whitehorse, $5 million to help the agricultural industry in the Yukon -- and that comes from the Growing Forward Initiative, a $1.3 billion fund -- and, more recently, a $71 million investment in the Mayo Hydro Facility enhancement and stage two of the Carmacks-Stewart Transmission Line.

Mr. Speaker, where is our government at when it comes to getting the federal government to help fund such things as the advancement of agriculture, recreation facility infrastructure and hydro development, just to name a few? Mr. Speaker, I’m not suggesting that we don’t appreciate what the federal government gives us; I’m very thankful for that. The problem, as I see it, is our inability to deliver a cohesive, unified message. Mr. Speaker, we’d better try to figure this out, otherwise the opportunities will continue to pass us by. Thank you.

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Federal Investment In The NWT

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Update On Atco Proposal

Members’ Statements

Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today, as well, I would like to speak about the issue of the consideration of the ATCO proposal as it relates to the Northwest Territories Power Corporation.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank the Premier for coming down to Hay River and meeting with us after the end of the last session as we requested him to do. We had a chance to meet with the employees and then have a much larger meeting at

the Power Corp itself with the management and the employees together. I thought it was a very productive exercise. Unfortunately we hadn’t done that sooner because I think a lot of the concern and misunderstanding about what was being looked at could have been avoided and averted if we had taken a slightly different approach on this. Like so many other things that our government looks at, sometimes when things are not communicated well it gives the opportunity for there to be a big resistance built up to something which if clearly explained, people might have more understanding and they might be able to support it.

As the Premier explained to the employees in Hay River that day, is that it is incumbent on this government to explore and look at the business possibilities and potentials of partnering with an organization who has much more money for energy development, hydro development than we do as a government. One of our problems is that we do have a debt wall and we have limited resources.

So as we move forward, we’re trying to balance the interests of those very valued NTPC employees at headquarters and across the Northwest Territories with the interest of the consumers of the Northwest Territories, and it would not be responsible of this government not to consider options that may be able to really be in everyone’s best interests. Certainly if the ATCO merger did proceed, they would need good and qualified employees as well.

So I think that the meeting in Hay River was good and later today I’ll be asking the Premier questions so that people can be further updated and informed. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . The honourable Member from Tu Nedhe , Mr. Beaulieu .

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Housing Development Plan For Tu Nedhe Communities

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker. (Translation) Mr. Speaker, today I’m going to talk a bit about housing, people that own their own houses and their rental units, the way they’ve been handling the way they work with the housing programs and I want to ask the Members, I will ask the Minister of Housing . (Translation ends)

I have had the opportunity to meet many constituents across Tu Nedhe over the last two years. Housing problems continue to be the number one issue as far as most constituents are concerned. Mr. Speaker, I believe that the NWT Housing Corporation staff need to develop an overall housing development plan in each of the communities of Tu Nedhe.

Mr. Speaker, this housing development plan must look at all aspects of housing in each community. Therefore, this plan must look at public housing, homeownership, market housing, housing for staff and land status.

Mr. Speaker, I’m not suggesting the NWT Housing Corporation complete a housing development plan in market communities, that would be too cumbersome. I am primarily speaking about smaller non-market communities where the majority of the housing units were put on the ground by the GNWT through the NWT Housing Corporation.

Mr. Speaker, the NWT Housing Corporation will soon have a needs survey completed. This needs survey will be a key document in developing this plan. I feel that it is imperative that the housing development plan be completed, as it can serve as a blueprint as to what happens in housing over the next few years.

Mr. Speaker, this plan will also provide certainty to the LHO staff, the Housing Corporation staff, the MLA and the Minister and, most importantly, the constituents. I’ll have questions for the Minister of Housing at the appropriate time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . The honourable Member from Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Evictions From Public Housing Units

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I’m concerned about the increasing number of evictions from public housing and I’m equally concerned about the fact that the Ministers who are responsible for Housing, Education and Health and Social Services do not appear to be working together to reduce the number of evictions.

Last year, a report on homeless women and families in the NWT said that the number of homeless women is in the hundreds. Where do these Ministers think that these evicted families are to go? Who is to support them? What are their options in finding housing in their community or elsewhere?

Clearly, we seem to have a growing class of people who require housing, Mr. Speaker. We all know that the GNWT is facing increased demands to provide shelter and shelter funding.

Mr. Speaker, for example, if someone was to be evicted in Yellowknife and they wanted emergency shelter through the YWCA, they could be waiting six, nine, or even 12 months to get through that waiting list for emergency shelter. So what do they do?

What happens when a family, a northern family, is evicted from public housing? Is Health and Social Services supposed to step in and provide housing now? What should we do? Because the problem becomes continuously obvious that the Ministers are not preventing evictions. Why can’t the local housing authority, the local health authority, and certainly the clients work together ahead of time to prevent evictions? Especially ones that are related to arrears.

The solution is this simple: If we had a staff person working on intervention rather than eviction, this would go a long way to solve this problem, and I suspect that the cost for these authorities would be a lot cheaper than putting someone in an apartment or a hotel for the night because they’ve been evicted to the street. The cheaper solution and the long-term solution is to get them on their feet through the local housing organization.

Having an eviction hanging over your head cannot be a healthy environment for that family. So how many evictions are coming up? Well, I’ve heard unconfirmed reports that potentially 50 families are facing eviction outside of Yellowknife. Then should Yellowknife be getting ready for the wave of people coming this summer?

What is the GNWT doing? Well, I can tell you what the GNWT isn’t doing and I certainly hope that these Ministers will see this problem, organize, and start having someone working with these clients in advance of this problem, because when an MLA gets a phone call at 2:00 p.m. on Friday at the end of the month, there’s not much we can do about a Supreme Court order that orders an eviction.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . The honourable Member for Nunakput , Mr. Jacobson .

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Medical Travel Cancellations

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Jackie Jacobson

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today my Member’s statement is on medical travel cancellations and the concerns that we are having in Nunakput. We all know how it feels when your flights are cancelled for whatever reason in the Northwest Territories. It happens a lot because of bad weather and mechanical problems. However, when medical travel is cancelled when the patient is in severe pain, it becomes a serious problem.

In February I asked questions in the House about how procedures and policies are used to evaluate whether the patient should be medevaced and I also expressed my concerns about the air carriers

cancelling scheduled flights which include medical travel passengers. The Minister responded indicating that the airline has the right to cancel the flight due to lack of passengers that day. Whether the air carrier has the right or not is not the issue. The issue is the residents in the small remote communities should not have to wait for the medical appointments while their flights are being cancelled time after time, especially if the patient is in severe pain. Every resident of the Territory needs to have access to adequate and timely medical care.

A constituent told me of a situation when they had to wait due to a cancellation, because of lack of passengers for several hours. Later a chartered flight did land in that community, but they had no room for additional passengers.

In my communities there is only one air carrier. This community has the influence to coordinate other contracts such as medevac, medical travel, food mail, and postal service. So the airlines do not have to cancel flights due to lack of passengers.

Someone in the medical field needs to review the patients who have their travel cancelled, to reconsider or coordinate other travel arrangements such as medevacs. Other patients have serious medical problems. Expecting patients to wait for a full flight and good weather does not work in the small communities when you have flights in every other day in some communities that I represent.

I will have questions for the Minister of Health at the appropriate time.

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Medical Travel Cancellations

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Jacobson . The honourable Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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Summer Student Hiring Process

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Like most Members of this House, I’ve received calls and e-mails from constituents who are concerned about the selection process used by the GNWT in the hiring of summer students. In my two years here, I’ve heard many times about the importance of our people, our residents, our children to this Territory. If this government is serious about our commitment to Northwest Territories students and we really do want them to return to the NWT to work, that we really do value them as NWT born and bred, then the Department of Human Resources must develop a better process to ensure fairness and equal opportunity in the hiring of summer students.

The Minister will say that a selection process is in place and, yes, it is. But the results of that process are haphazard and inconsistent. Success for the student that would be landing a GNWT job often depends on who knows who or who their parents know. There is no one method used to hire our summer students. Deputy ministers are left to their

own devices when hiring students for their department.

This lack of a coordinated approach leads to the perception of favouritism, and often favouritism is actually the reality. I’m aware of at least three instances this year alone where the child of a deputy minister or a director has been hired for that department as a summer student, and the hiring occurred after other non-relative students had been told that there were no jobs available in that department. Such cherry picking cannot be tolerated.

I believe the first change in this hiring process must be to restrict the hiring of family members within a department for summer student employment. We should also consider paying our students less so that we can employ more of them.

The Department of Human Resources must take a more active and coordinating role where the hiring of summer students is concerned. The Human Resources staff are our experts in this area. They do hiring day in and day out; the various department staff do not. Why do we insist on an informal, unfair staffing model just because we’re hiring students?

This government contends that we want to be transparent and fair. At this point we are not and I call on the Minister of Human Resources to conduct a formal review of the summer student hiring process and effect some change for the better.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . The honourable Member for Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Designation Of The Mackenzie River As A Canadian Heritage Site

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. With the recent concerns about the Alberta tar sands and the idea of using the Mackenzie River as a super highway, it seems to me that harm to the Mighty Mackenzie is going to happen. We have to take action. We cannot allow one of Mother Nature’s wonders to be hurt.

The Mackenzie River is 4,200 kilometres long. It touches many of the communities along the Mackenzie Valley. An elder once said the Mackenzie River is like the blood veins in our bodies; it gives us life. The Mackenzie is in our blood. Having just spent 10 days at my family’s camp at Old Fort Point, right on the Mackenzie just a short distance from Tulita, I’ve been asking myself what we can do to protect the river, this river of life, from harm.

Witnessing one of Mother Nature’s wonders is an awesome experience. For example, the spring breakup of the Mackenzie River, so powerful, so beautiful, and yet so frightening all at the same time.

The GNWT is developing a Water Strategy. We all know that as a small government it’s hard to stand up to the big governments like Alberta and Ottawa. It’s like David and Goliath. Yet we must take a stand for what is right and just.

There is one step that we can take right now that will help protect the Mackenzie River. We can get the Mackenzie River designated as a Canadian Heritage River. This would be one of the additional tools that could help protect the Mackenzie River and demonstrate this government’s commitment to good government environmental policies. I can’t imagine there would be any issues meeting the Canadian Heritage criteria for the Great Mackenzie River.

I’ll follow up with the Minister in regards to these questions.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . The honourable Member for Yellowknife South , Mr. Bob McLeod .

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Recognition Of Kristin Chapman Youth Bowling National Champion

Members’ Statements

Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, today I rise in the House to recognize the achievement of one of my young constituents of Yellowknife South, Kristin Chapman.

---Applause

Kristin recently travelled with her fellow NWT representatives to the Youth Bowling Canada National Championships in Toronto from May 2nd to

the 4th . Kristin brought home the Gold Medal as the

Bantam Girls 5-pin Singles National Champion.

---Applause

During the three-day event, Kristin bowled a total of 20 games, which works out to two games each against the 10 other provincial and territorial champions. She compiled a record of 14 wins and six losses, edging out the silver medalist from southern Ontario by one point. Kristin also took home a plaque for high single during the event with a 232 total in a match against British Columbia. That was a pretty impressive weekend’s work for a nine-year-old.

To put her achievement into perspective, there are currently over 23,000 bowlers registered across Canada in Youth Bowling Canada programs. The Northwest Territories has two such programs: one in Hay River and one in Yellowknife. Provincial and territorial champions travel each year to the national championships to compete in three divisions: Bantam, Junior, and Senior.

While many of the larger jurisdictions have had much success at this event, the Northwest Territories traditionally goes in as underdogs. Kristin also had the distinction of being the only

Bantam girl who was a two-handed bowler. As such, many of her competitors appear to have underestimated her and she set out to prove them wrong.

The third time was the charm for Kristin as she finished last and second last in the first two times she attended the nationals, so she understandably had modest expectations. However, the experience allowed her to remain calm and avoid the nerves that overtook many of her competitors. Going into the final day she had a very slim lead over second place Alberta and third place Southern Ontario, both of whom she had to play to earn the gold.

Kristin’s greatest strength was that she was able to raise her game when it really counted. She went into the late stages against both Southern Ontario and Alberta and won both matches with clutched final frames to secure the wins. This young lady has nerves of steel.

She was also recognized by the other competitors and parents alike for her happy, smiling demeanour and sportsmanship…

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Mr. McLeod, your time for Member’s statement has expired.

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Recognition Of Kristin Chapman Youth Bowling National Champion

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted.

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Recognition Of Kristin Chapman Youth Bowling National Champion

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Kristin has made the Northwest Territories proud with both her wonderful achievement and her great sportsmanship. Congratulations, Kristin.

---Applause

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Recognition Of Kristin Chapman Youth Bowling National Champion

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Yellowknife South , Mr. Bob McLeod .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to recognize Kristin Chapman, Youth Bowling National Champion, and her parents, Blair and Yolande Chapman.

Also I’d like to recognize Jenny Bruce and Carol Beck, both board members of Northwest Territories Tourism Association, and Gerry LePrieur, executive director, Northwest Territories Tourism Association.

And Andy Hutchinson, executive director, Northern Frontier Visitors Association.

Finally, I’d like to recognize Wilma Degrew, my new constituency assistant.

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Kam Lake , Mr. Ramsay .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

David Ramsay

Kam Lake

I’d like to recognize Carol Beck, a constituent that’s with us today, as well as everybody else in the gallery.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

I’d like to recognize Jenny Bruce in the gallery, as well as Gerry LePrieur. As we all know, Gerry is a well-known volunteer for auctioneering. He does the Celebrity Auction, the Rotary Bike Auction, and the Ducks Unlimited Auction, as well as many others. Just one last point; a lot of people say that he contributes quite generously on this thing and he doesn’t get enough credit for his community contribution for auctioneering in our city.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . The honourable Member for Nunakput , Mr. Jacobson .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

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Jackie Jacobson

Nunakput

Today I’d like to recognize my son Mitchell Jacobson, who is visiting me down from Tuk. Welcome.

I’d also like to recognize Carol Beck, as well.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Jacobson . The honourable Member for Monfwi , Mr. Lafferty .

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

I’d like to recognize a couple of young ladies here with us today from my Department of Justice: Rebecca Petrie, community justice intern, and also Dawn Anderson, who is seconded as manager of community justice program and projects. Thanks for coming.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Recognition of visitors in the gallery. If we’ve missed anyone in the gallery today, welcome to the House. Hope you’re enjoying the proceedings. It’s always nice to have an audience in here. Item 6, acknowledgements. Item 7, oral questions. The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Question 368-16(3): Update On Atco Proposal

Oral Questions

Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I mentioned in my Member’s statement, I do think the Premier ’s visit to Hay River went some ways toward explaining this government’s position and what we’re trying to achieve by examining the ATCO proposal that came to our Premier ’s desk.

However, the wheels of government turn slowly and there’s been several reviews related to electricity going on. There’s been the rates review that the folks have taken out to the communities on the road. Also, there’s the NTPC review itself, and then, of course, the review of the ATCO proposal. So although we did have that communication that’s almost two months ago now, and I would just like

to, for the benefit of the NTPC employees in Hay River and across the Northwest Territories, get an update as to where we are at on the review of the ATCO proposal.

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Question 368-16(3): Update On Atco Proposal

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . The honourable Premier , Mr. Roland .

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Question 368-16(3): Update On Atco Proposal

Oral Questions

Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Premier

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It was indeed a pleasure to travel to Hay River and meet with the Power Corporation senior staff, as well as all the other employees, and the town council, as well, around this issue.

Things have moved slowly. We are working on a number of initiatives prior to getting right into the ATCO proposal itself. As the Member has pointed out, we’ve just, through the Ministerial Energy Coordinating Committee, been doing the wrap-up on the rates regulation piece that’s out there, we’re about to send off information to Members about the NTPC review specifically.

In the meantime, we’ve had our senior staff begin to have discussions with ATCO in a very preliminary way of just discussing the proposal put in front of us. But there are no negotiations of that sort. We’re looking towards the fall time, late August or September, before we can get anything substantial done on that proposal.

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Question 368-16(3): Update On Atco Proposal

Oral Questions

Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

As that team of deputy ministers looks at that proposal and considers it from a business analysis perspective, to be perfectly clear, can the Premier confirm for us that if this proposal had merit and if we were to proceed with it, that in fact it is not anticipated to be, or in any way anticipated to be, a sell-off of NTPC, but in fact a partnership with the private sector through ATCO?

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Question 368-16(3): Update On Atco Proposal

Oral Questions

Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Premier

The Member is correct. The proposal and the discussions that have taken place today, and even reviewing this, it is a partnership approach that we are looking at and, again, we have much work to be done before we can get into that level of discussion. I should also add that we have committed to continue communications between the town council and the employees, and working through the employees through the board. We’re hoping to get some correspondence just to give them an update as well.

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Question 368-16(3): Update On Atco Proposal

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

That was actually my next question. I was going to ask how we were going to ensure that the ongoing communications and up-to-date information is available to potentially affected parties. Certainly NTPC is a huge presence in Hay River and extremely important to our community.

In the negotiations that could take place -- I know I’m not supposed to ask hypothetical questions, but in those negotiations -- I mean, it’s quite possible that the retention of the current NTPC employees in

a merger type of arrangement could be part of the negotiations.

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Question 368-16(3): Update On Atco Proposal

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Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Premier

The discussions that we’ve had to date with the Power Corporation staff, that issue of employment came up, concern around that. One of the things I shared with the staff at the Power Corporation head office was just that we are looking towards maximizing our employment numbers, in a sense, because it only helps us overall when it comes to our status and our Formula Financing Agreement, as well. So that is always a part of the consideration as we move forward.

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Question 368-16(3): Update On Atco Proposal

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland . Final supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Question 368-16(3): Update On Atco Proposal

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Also, just to confirm that if at the end of this analysis process there does seem to be merit in this partnership with the private sector for the benefit of the people of the Northwest Territories, including those who already work for our present utility, that there will be an opportunity for those points and those merits that could be achieved would be brought back for a decision of this House.

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Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Premier

The idea, the concept, the work that needs to be done and the meetings following that will definitely have to come back to Members of this Assembly as we decide what the future may hold and what the possibilities are as well.

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Question 368-16(3): Update On Atco Proposal

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland . The honourable Member for Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Question 369-16(3): Designation Of Mackenzie River As Canadian Heritage Site

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In my Member’s statement I talked about the possibility of designating the Mackenzie River as a heritage river. I would like to ask the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources if he would consider this type of initiative and consider looking at this process to nominate the Mackenzie River under the Canadian Heritage River System.

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Question 369-16(3): Designation Of Mackenzie River As Canadian Heritage Site

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . The honourable Minister responsible for Environment and Natural Resources , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Question 369-16(3): Designation Of Mackenzie River As Canadian Heritage Site

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There was work done on this particular initiative back in 2003. I’ll commit to pull that file and see where it ended up, what kind of response there was. Some communities had indicated an interest to have the Mackenzie designated as a Canadian Heritage River. We already have three rivers in the Northwest Territories with such designation. I will follow up with that and then we can have further discussions.

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Question 369-16(3): Designation Of Mackenzie River As Canadian Heritage Site

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

I certainly appreciate the commitment from the Minister. Can the Minister further commit to having some further options, concrete plans in terms of coming to the Assembly in terms of the possibility of advancing a nomination should there be support for nomination of the Mackenzie River as a designated heritage river?

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Question 369-16(3): Designation Of Mackenzie River As Canadian Heritage Site

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

We’ll, as I indicated, pull the information together. I will also talk to the Premier about this may be a topic -- since the Mackenzie goes from one end of the Territory to the other -- where there may be some benefit to having some discussion, current discussion, to see what the interest is in moving on this particular initiative.

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Question 369-16(3): Designation Of Mackenzie River As Canadian Heritage Site

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Krutko .

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Question 370-16(3): Conflict Between Ferry Operations And Subsistence Harvester

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In regard to my Member’s statement, I raised the issue of conflicts between harvesters to subsistence and also government operations. In particular, the ferry operations on the Mackenzie in regard to the Nazon fishing camp, which is on the Inuvik side of the river and has been located there long before the highway was even built.

In the Gwich’in Land Claim Agreement there is a conflict resolution section, which is 12.4.13. I think it’s important that this government maybe consider reading that, because I think this government has to either resolve this dispute with the individual and try to avoid this conflict regarding traditional right to harvest, but more importantly work with the community’s renewable resource council to avoid this conflict.

I’d like to ask the Minister, in light of the letters that he’s received and I’ve received and the discussions we’ve had on this over the last couple of months, has he considered the possibility of moving where the conflict area is back to the location where the ferry always landed so that this conflict can be resolved and the Nazon family can continue to fish in their traditional fishing area, where they fished long before this ferry operation was located there?

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Question 370-16(3): Conflict Between Ferry Operations And Subsistence Harvester

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko . The honourable Minister responsible for Transportation , Mr. Michael McLeod .

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Question 370-16(3): Conflict Between Ferry Operations And Subsistence Harvester

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Mr. Speaker, in all our projects and operations within Transportation and other departments across the government we always worked towards ensuring that our constituents and residents across the Territories have the benefit of operating and living their traditional and cultural lifestyle without any

disturbance. Setting up operations in this instance, such as the ferry operations, has involved a lot of people, including a lot of the elders and incorporating traditional knowledge. It’s been an area that we’ve used for operations for quite a few years. In the last while we had an instance where, I think due to certain conditions, the ferry had landed close to an individual’s camp. We also had some correspondence from the same individual raising concern that the operation was still fairly close to where she practised her cultural living.

There was greater possibility that there could be a collision between our ferry and her boats, and interference with her ability to set a net. We are responding to her. We had not planned to move the operations, but we’d like to have the discussions to ensure that this doesn’t interfere with her ability to catch fish, and also that the ferry landing close to her camp was a one-time occasion and that we’ll take all steps to ensure that doesn’t happen again.

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Question 370-16(3): Conflict Between Ferry Operations And Subsistence Harvester

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Again, Ms. Nazon is not asking that they move the complete ferry operations away from that site. We know it’s a physical fixture there. All we ask is that the Department of Transportation’s marine operations consider moving the ferry where the conflict area is down 50 feet. The ferry has four engines. It moves back and forth. Their ability to land...If you’re a captain on that vessel you shouldn’t have a problem with that. So all we’re asking is would you consider moving away from this conflict area and establishing your landing and approaching area in a more reasonable location so this conflict doesn’t exist in the future?

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

I think there are two issues that are tripping over each other in this situation. One is being the ferry operation utilizing the site that’s been in place since the 1980s might be somehow interfering with the individual’s traditional lifestyle practices and also an occasion where the ferry did land practically at her camp. I’m going to need to find some clarity as to what the real issue is and we’ll have our staff meet with the Member’s constituent to clarify what the actual request is and look at what the 50 feet would entail to move the landing, if that’s possible.

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Question 370-16(3): Conflict Between Ferry Operations And Subsistence Harvester

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Like the Minister mentioned, this issue has been around for a couple years now. It’s not like it just happened yesterday. This issue has come to this House about three or four times, as long as I’ve been here. They basically requested that when the last permits were issued for the department’s marine operations with regard to landing at those locations, they requested that a study be done a number of years ago regarding this particular issue.

So I’d like to ask the Minister, in regard to the Gwich’in Land Claim Agreement 12.4.13 where it talks about these type of disputes and the mechanisms that are there to resolve it, and the

option to go to arbitration, is that what this government wants? Are they willing to follow the Land Claim Agreement in regard to this type of conflict between harvesters and developers?

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Question 370-16(3): Conflict Between Ferry Operations And Subsistence Harvester

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

I’m becoming more and more familiar with the Gwich’in land claim as the Member provides us quotes almost on a daily basis of where the issues are raising concern.

The issue may have been around for many years. I’ve only recently been brought into the fold and been asked to take a look at it. I am responding to the Member’s constituent. I’d be glad to look at the site and the proposal that the Member is bringing forward and respond accordingly.

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Question 370-16(3): Conflict Between Ferry Operations And Subsistence Harvester

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final supplementary, Mr. Krutko .

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Question 370-16(3): Conflict Between Ferry Operations And Subsistence Harvester

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I look forward to this issue being resolved soon. Fishing season is coming before us. I think that we’re hoping to have this, I believe in the letter it states, in July. I’d like to ask the Minister if he can have a resolution to this issue within the next two weeks, prior to the fishing season in July.

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Question 370-16(3): Conflict Between Ferry Operations And Subsistence Harvester

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

I think in this situation we certainly have to look at the long term. As I mentioned earlier, this has been a site that has been used by our department, by our ferry services for roughly 30 years. In that part of the country there is erosion of the soil, there is erosion of the riverbanks, and it has moved our landing so that it’s becoming a concern for some of the people who are utilizing the area for traditional harvesting of fish. I think we need to sit down and make sure that if we’re going to make any changes, it has to be a solution that’s going to be acceptable for many years to come.

I would be prepared to do that. We are responding to the Member’s constituent. We’ll have that letter out in a day or two. However, I think a long-term solution has to be looked at. Thank you.

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Question 370-16(3): Conflict Between Ferry Operations And Subsistence Harvester

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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Question 371-16(3): Summer Student Hiring Process

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker My questions today are addressed to the Minister for the Department of Human Resources. I mentioned in my statement that I feel there is an inconsistent hiring process; that there is some favouritism shown in some instances, and that the department needs to look at the process. I’d like to ask the Minister right now if he could explain to this House how the current hiring process can be said to be fair and transparent. Thank you.

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Question 371-16(3): Summer Student Hiring Process

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . The honourable Minister of Human Resources , Mr. Bob McLeod .

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Question 371-16(3): Summer Student Hiring Process

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Yellowknife South

Bob McLeod

Minister of Human Resources

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Well, summer students that are interested in looking for a job with the Government of the Northwest Territories can register on the summer student database and have their names registered. Departments identify summer student jobs and the relevant experiences and skills required, and all departments have delegated staffing authority. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 371-16(3): Summer Student Hiring Process

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

I guess to the Minister that I didn’t really hear an answer that that process is fair and transparent. As each department is operating on their own, as I suggested, it doesn’t really lead to any sort of consistency.

The Minister has advised me in previous communications, and I’m glad to hear that the Affirmative Action Policy does apply to the hiring of summer students, but it’s also my understanding that no one oversees the results of that hiring. We need to have a more accountable selection process where a P1 or a P2 is going to be guaranteed their priority in the summer student hiring process.

I’d like to ask the Minister how he proposes to change the current process to make sure, to guarantee that a P1 or a P2 summer student is hired over a P3. Thank you.

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Question 371-16(3): Summer Student Hiring Process

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Yellowknife South

Bob McLeod

Minister of Human Resources

In our government we believe in letting our managers manage and we do have affirmative action policies that our managers have to apply. These results are reviewed on a regular basis.

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Question 371-16(3): Summer Student Hiring Process

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

That really didn’t give me the answer that I was looking for, but I guess I would have to hope that the Minister would provide me with the results of the overseeing as it goes on.

As I mentioned in my statement, I suggest that we need to revise the wages that students are paid. They’re currently paid about $26 an hour, which is wonderful if they actually have one of our precious and coveted GNWT jobs, but it’s not so great for those that don’t. So I would like to ask the Minister if he would consider setting a specific wage for summer students, something closer to $20 an hour or $18 an hour, so that the GNWT could provide this great financial opportunity to more of our summer students. And if not, why not? Thank you.

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Question 371-16(3): Summer Student Hiring Process

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Yellowknife South

Bob McLeod

Minister of Human Resources

I’d be pleased to share the results of our summer student hiring with all of the Members in this Assembly. We have, in the past, looked at reducing summer student wages so that we could hire more summer students and we have looked at maybe using the minimum wage for summer students. Certainly, we know that we are not the only employer in the Northwest Territories; there are other employers that we feel should do their share of hiring summer students. We also have programs that will allow...where we contribute to the private sector hiring summer students and

also boards and agencies. Certainly, we can commit to looking at reviewing the wages paid to summer students. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 371-16(3): Summer Student Hiring Process

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final supplementary, Ms. Bisaro .

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Question 371-16(3): Summer Student Hiring Process

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thanks to the Minister. I’m glad to hear that the Minister is willing to look at the program. I’m also aghast that the department would consider using minimum wage as an appropriate wage for summer students; that’s not even the $10 an hour that we’re hoping we can get it ramped up to. So I hope that’s not going to happen.

This government has just eliminated a possible funding opportunity for students by cutting the Student Financial Assistance scholarship program. That was one opportunity that students had to add to their summer student dollar that they were accumulating for the next year. So other than what the Minister has mentioned, can he advise if there is anything specific that the department is considering to increase the number of summer student jobs? Thank you.

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Question 371-16(3): Summer Student Hiring Process

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Yellowknife South

Bob McLeod

Minister of Human Resources

It’s still very early in the summer. Today is June 1st . Normally what we’d do

is we’d send out a call to all departments, generally from the Premier and the Ministers to endeavour for the departments to hire summer students. Last year we hired 282 summer students, 84 Progressive Experience Program students and 26 relevant experience students. So we are looking at continuing to see more summer students being hired over the remainder of the summer. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 371-16(3): Summer Student Hiring Process

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Weledeh , Mr. Bromley .

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Question 372-16(3): Dettah Road Construction

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I’d like to follow up from my Member’s statement with the Department of Transportation Minister . Specifically, on the Dettah road, we’re very happy to see that project going forward and some funds committed this year. Just towards completion of the entire project, what’s needed...I’m wondering if the department has a cost estimate for reconstruction of the entire Dettah road. Thank you.

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Question 372-16(3): Dettah Road Construction

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . The honourable Minister of Transportation , Mr. Michael McLeod .

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Question 372-16(3): Dettah Road Construction

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Deh Cho

Michael McLeod

Minister of Transportation

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’ll have to interpret that to mean completion of this road as we saw and budgeted for or I’m sure the number of issues he’s raised in his Member’s statement are what he’s suggesting that we incorporate. At this point, we have targeted $2 million for this upcoming year and a further $2

million to do work on the Dettah road. The work will include engineering work, the surveys and all the designs and gravel production. As the Member knows, this road had very little in terms of real engineering structure and was constructed many years ago when most of the material was clay, and at that time there was very little in terms of consideration for drainage. So that’s the work that we’re focusing on. Down the road we may look at going the final step and look at putting a dust suppressant and possibly chipseal or something of that nature. Thank you.

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Question 372-16(3): Dettah Road Construction

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

That was a very neat, I suppose, side step, if the Minister is looking for praise from that standpoint. The question was plain: What is the cost estimate for the reconstruction of the entire Dettah road? I’m just trying to put things in context. I think I complimented the Minister on the funding for this year and I understand there might be funding for next year. So I guess I’ll have to ask the question again, Mr. Speaker: What is the cost estimate for the reconstruction of the entire Dettah road; to get the whole Dettah road up to standard? Thank you.

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Question 372-16(3): Dettah Road Construction

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Deh Cho

Michael McLeod

Minister of Transportation

I want to thank the Member for the acknowledgement. Last year we didn’t have any money for this road and this year and next year we have a total of $4 million. As of now, that’s the money we have budgeted for investment and we will consider further work in other areas, as I mentioned earlier, for hard-topping the surface and possibly it may require further investment as we move forward. We have these dollars, this budget of $4 million currently that we’re focusing on. I have to state that this is the initial investment and I don’t have a final figure. Thank you.

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Question 372-16(3): Dettah Road Construction

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

I guess maybe we pulled another $2 million so we’re up to $4 million now. Good to know that that figure is public. I guess when I build a house or take on a project, I like to know what the full cost is for it. You know, I might build it in stages but...I’m just looking for what the full cost of the reconstruction of the Dettah road is. There’s, I believe, 11 kilometres there. I’m pretty sure that work’s been done, but if not, perhaps that could be done. Perhaps I could request that that be done. Will the Minister commit to getting that information?

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Question 372-16(3): Dettah Road Construction

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Deh Cho

Michael McLeod

Minister of Transportation

I understand the Member is still building this House...

---Laughter

Mr. Speaker, right now, I can inform the Member we have earmarked $2 million for this year and $2 million for next year. That will bring us further along. As to a final figure, we’d be glad to share that and we will commit to providing all the information that we currently have gathered to the Member for his consideration and for his use. We’ll have that to him very shortly. Thank you.

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Question 372-16(3): Dettah Road Construction

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final supplementary, Mr. Bromley .

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Question 372-16(3): Dettah Road Construction

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So I guess I’d just like to get confirmation from the Minister that, in fact, there is no estimate; he doesn’t even know what the reconstruction of the Dettah road will cost, nor does he have a plan in place to ensure the completion of this project. I’d just like to get that confirmation. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 372-16(3): Dettah Road Construction

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . Mr. McLeod.

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Question 372-16(3): Dettah Road Construction

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Deh Cho

Michael McLeod

Minister of Transportation

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Not at all. We do have a plan and our plan is to spend $4 million on the Dettah road. We certainly can provide that information to the Member as we move forward. Thank you.

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Question 372-16(3): Dettah Road Construction

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Nunakput , Mr. Jacobson .

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Question 373-16(3): Medical Travel Cancellations

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Jackie Jacobson

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. For my Member’s statement today I am speaking regarding the medical travel in the Beaufort-Delta and Nunakput. What are the policies and procedures for rearranging regular travel to medevac travel for sick patients who had their medical travel cancelled by the air carrier? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 373-16(3): Medical Travel Cancellations

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Jacobson . The honourable Minister of Health and Social Services , Ms. Lee .

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Question 373-16(3): Medical Travel Cancellations

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Range Lake

Sandy Lee

Minister of Health and Social Services

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I think we should be clear about the distinction between medevac travel and medical travel. In this case, I understand the patient was scheduled to fly on medical travel on a regularly scheduled flight and the private airline company cancelled the flight due to lack of passengers on that given day. The airline contacted the patient in question and rescheduled the travel to the next available time. It is unfortunate that that had to happen, but once in a while airlines do cancel their flights or sometimes they are delayed.

We made a commitment to contact the airlines to let them know that this does affect medical travel and hopefully it won’t happen again. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 373-16(3): Medical Travel Cancellations

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Jackie Jacobson

Nunakput

Will the Minister commit to working with me with the various departments and agencies and the airlines to prevent future patients from having to wait for long periods of time in the communities and when they’re trying to return home after their medical, from seeing the doctor, because of flight cancellations due to the number of passengers? Thank you.

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Question 373-16(3): Medical Travel Cancellations

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Range Lake

Sandy Lee

Minister of Health and Social Services

Yes, Mr. Speaker, I’d be happy to work with the Member in any way we can to improve our services to our residents in medical travel as well as medevac.

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Question 373-16(3): Medical Travel Cancellations

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Jackie Jacobson

Nunakput

This area has serious flaws, Mr. Speaker, and the Minister and the department should bring this up at contract time for the air services in the Beaufort-Delta and Nunakput. Thank you.

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Range Lake

Sandy Lee

Minister of Health and Social Services

Mr. Speaker, I’d be happy to undertake to do that. Thank you.

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Question 373-16(3): Medical Travel Cancellations

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee . The honourable Member for Great Slave , Mr. Abernethy .

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Question 374-16(3): Update On Atco Proposal

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are for the Minister responsible for the NWT Power Corporation . Possibly with the exception of employees of the Power Corporation, as outlined by my colleague Mrs. Groenewegen , many residents of the Northwest Territories are still curious about the content of the unsolicited ATCO proposal. Specifically, what are the details? The people really want to know. When will the Premier be sharing the details of the proposal with the people of the Northwest Territories, who are ultimately the owners of the Power Corporation? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 374-16(3): Update On Atco Proposal

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . The honourable Premier , Mr. Roland .

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Question 374-16(3): Update On Atco Proposal

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Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Premier

Thank you, Mr. Speaker Mr. Speaker, the process we’re involved with looking at the ATCO proposal is one I’ve laid out with Members as well as with key stakeholders involved in this. The process we’re using is one that as the GNWT is the sole shareholder. Yes, GNWT works for the people of the Northwest Territories. As we would with any business case and any public corporation, as well, work with their key stakeholders to do an evaluation. We’re in that process. The proposal itself is one that just starts the process, and we will be moving forward on that basis.

Once the initial work, as I’ve laid out previously in the Assembly, on the rates regulation review as well as the Power Corp specific review itself, we would have more information to share with Members of this Assembly. That would be the process we would be involved with at this time. Thank you.

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

I’d like to thank the Premier for that. He kind of went into some aspects of the second question I want to ask, which is although there has been some information out there and there’s been a lot of press coverage on this topic, people are still confused about the review itself and the timelines that we’ll be moving forward with.

Could the Premier tell me when will a more comprehensive outline and a timeline of the review of the unsolicited ATCO proposal be made public? Thank you, Mr. Speaker

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Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Premier

Mr. Speaker, our process, again, is involved with working with Members as we would move forward on this and from time to time, involving key stakeholders in our decision-making. If we are going to move forward beyond looking at a proposal, then we would engage in a process to involve those that we feel need to be a part of that overall process. Right now things have been delayed. We don’t expect some of the discussions to really start in the sense of what it might be to expand looking at that proposal until probably fall time, late fall, late August, into September. Thank you.

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

I’d like to thank the Premier for that and I look forward to working with the Premier and Cabinet as they move forward on this particular topic. In relation to that, I’m curious who will make the final decision to merge with ATCO or not merge with ATCO to run the Power Corporation and when does the Premier anticipate a decision will be made? Will it be made by Cabinet, the decision itself, or will it be done by the Legislature as a whole? If it is done by the Legislature as a whole, how will that be determined or how will that direction be set? Will it be by way of a vote in this Legislature? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Premier

Mr. Speaker, we are way, way ahead of the process with the question. In a sense, as we would look at this, once the work is done, I will provide it to Cabinet and then sit down with Members as to what’s being presented and we’ll decide as Members of this Assembly. That is Regular Members and Cabinet, will sit down and have the discussion as to what the potential next steps may be. At that point, we’ll decide how we would move forward on that initiative. I go back to quite a number of Assemblies ago when the initiative, for example, of previous governments was to privatize a number of its operations.

There was a motion put forward and consideration to stop that type of review or work being done. So it wasn’t, in a sense, a decision, but a motion. Working with Members in this forum we’d have to look at what next steps we have available to us. But first and foremost, we need to have the work done. We will sit down with Members and decide what makes sense and best business case for the people of the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

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Question 374-16(3): Update On Atco Proposal

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland . Final supplementary, Mr. Abernethy .

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and once again, thanks to the Premier to that. I know it’s a long way off, but once a tentative decision is made, regardless of what that decision is, whether we merge or we don’t merge, will there be public

meetings to discuss the GNWT’s position and obtain input and recommendations from all the owners of the Power Corporation, all the people of the Northwest Territories, prior to any irreversible decision being made? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . Mr. Roland .

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Question 374-16(3): Update On Atco Proposal

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Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Premier

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. First and foremost, I look to the authority of this House. The Members here represent the people of the Northwest Territories from quite a diverse range of communities and businesses and individuals. So our work would start here. We would decide how far we’d go and I’d also caution Members that we need to be careful in how we approach this. If we’re going to do every business