Debates of Feb. 23rd, 1998

This is page numbers 989 - 1040 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

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Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

Minister Absent From The House

Minister Absent From The House

NWT Juvenile Firesetter Intervention Program

Fort Smith Highway To Southern Canada

Legal Drinking Age

Results Of The Pas, Manitoba Dog Sled Race

The Need For A Social Worker In Broughton Island

Achievements Of Kivalliq Partners In Development

Nunavut Community Economic Development Conference

Employment For Persons With Disabilities Research Project

The Need To Focus On Long-term Job Strategies

Presentation Of The Commissioner's Award For Bravery To Alayna Krutko And The Passing Of Clifford Francis

Return To Oral Question 343-13(5): GNWT Role Re: Telephone Rates

Return To Oral Question 151-13(5): Employment Generated Through Aurora Fund

The Need For A Social Worker In Broughton Island

GNWT Job Evaluation System

Long-term Employment Strategies

Legal Drinking Age

Disposition Of Surplus Funding In Municipalities

Surplus Funding In Broughton Island

Property Management Pilot Project Update

Alcohol And Drug Treatment Centre Accreditation

Update On Keewatin Pilot Project

Diamond Valuation In Eastern Arctic

Hay Job Evaluation Details

Report On Hay Job Evaluation

Status Of Environmental Audit

Human Resource Guidelines For Senior Managers

Keewatin Health Board Ceo Transfer

Privatization Of Property Management

Review Of Human Resource Guidelines

Concerns Re: Keewatin Pilot Project

Item 8: Returns To Written Questions

Return To Written Question 5-13(5): Operating Guidelines For Senior Management Personnel

Committee Report 6-13(5): Report On The Review Of The Report Of The Auditor General To The NWT Legislative Assembly For The Year Ended March 31, 1996

Item 17: First Reading Of Bills

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

To Amend Subclause 8(5) Of Bill 10 Miscellaneous Statutes Amendment Act, 1998

To Amend Clause 19 Of Bill 10: Miscellaneous Statutes Amendment Act, 1998

Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Item 22: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Honourable Jim Antoine , Mr. Barnabas , Mr. Enuaraq , Mr. Erasmus , Mr. Evaloarjuk , Honourable Sam Gargan, Mrs. Groenewegen , Mr. Henry , Mr. Krutko , Mr. Miltenberger , Honourable Don Morin , Honourable Kelvin Ng , Mr. Ningark , Mr. O'Brien , Mr. Ootes , Mr. Picco , Mr. Rabesca , Mr. Roland , Mr. Steen , Honourable Manitok Thompson , Honourable John Todd .

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Oh, God, may your spirit and guidance be in us as we work for the benefit of all our people, for peace and justice in our land and for the constant recognition of the dignity and aspirations of those whom we serve. Amen.

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . Good morning. Orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Morin .

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Minister's Statement 71-13(5): Minister Absent From The House

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wish to advise Members that the Honourable Goo Arlooktoo will be absent from the House today to attend a meeting with the Minister of Justice and Minister of DIAND in Ottawa. As well, the Honourable Charles Dent will be absent from the House for today, tomorrow and Wednesday to attend the Ministers of Education Meeting in Toronto and to meet with the Minister of DIAND in Ottawa. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Ministers' statements. Mr. Morin .

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Minister's Statement 72-13(5): Minister Absent From The House

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wish to advise Members that the Honourable Stephen Kakfwi will be absent from the House today and part of tomorrow to represent the GNWT at the Memorial Service for a long-time northerner, GNWT employee and former mayor of Norman Wells, Max Melnyk. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 72-13(5): Minister Absent From The House

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Ministers' statements. Ms. Thompson .

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Minister's Statement 73-13(5): NWT Juvenile Firesetter Intervention Program

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Manitok Thompson

Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, each year in the Northwest Territories, tragedy strikes as a direct result of fires. In many cases such fires are set by children. The Department of Municipal and Community Affairs and the NWT Fire Service recognize the urgency of this problem and have worked cooperatively to develop a comprehensive, community-based strategy. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to inform Members about the NWT Juvenile Firesetter Intervention Program. This program will help communities understand the problem of juvenile fire setting and provide an approach that can be used to identify, assess and educate children on fire safety.

Mr. Speaker, this program will also provide communities with a process to assess children and refer problem firesetters to the appropriate mental health professionals. It also includes followup with the children, which helps the communities and the department evaluate the effectiveness of the program and make appropriate adjustments.

The main resource used in this program is the Juvenile Firesetters Intervention Manual. The manual was first used in a pilot training project held in Yellowknife last November, co-sponsored by the office of the Fire Marshal, the NWT Fire Chiefs Association and the Yellowknife Fire Department; training was provided to community fire departments, the Yellowknife Public School Board and representatives from the Department of Education, Culture and Employment and the Department of Health and Social Services. Regional Assistant Fire Marshals will be implementing the program directly to community organizations in the next few months.

Mr. Speaker, the NWT Juvenile Firesetter Intervention Program compliments two other initiatives. The existing Learn Not To Burn Education Program and a new prevention program called Risk Watch. Risk Watch will provide children with a unique opportunity to learn about injury prevention in the areas such as motor vehicles, fire and burn, poisoning, firearm injury, water safety, as well as choking and suffocation. This comprehensive program can be taught as a stand alone unit by community groups or incorporated into school programs. Risk Watch helps children acquire the skills and knowledge they need to recognize and avoid risks and develop a safety sense.

Mr. Speaker, I am confident that these initiatives will provide the tools, information and a network of support to help communities address the problem of fire play and firesetting. I also believe that through these programs we will help northerners protect themselves, their families, their friends and their communities from harm. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause

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Minister's Statement 73-13(5): NWT Juvenile Firesetter Intervention Program

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Miltenberger .

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Member's Statement 304-13(5): Fort Smith Highway To Southern Canada

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, for the last almost 40 years, the people of Fort Smith have been lobbying and working toward a direct road south. Last week, on Friday and Saturday, we had in Fort Smith the Honourable Andy Mitchell, Secretary of State for Parks, and Ethel Blondin-Andrew, visit the community, work and listen to what the community has to say about this road. They flew over the route and spent a good deal of time in meetings listening to the people while they were there with the band and Metis. Mr.

Speaker, this latest initiative on the part of the community was given its boost last April when the Honourable Sheila Copps was in Fort Smith to announce the relocation of the parks headquarters to Fort Smith. At that time she spoke very positively about the road and building. The Honourable Ethel Blondin-Andrew invited Mr. Mitchell to Fort Smith, and he came as I indicated on the weekend.

Mr. Speaker, the community leadership pulled together on this particular initiative especially under the leadership of Mayor Martselos. The community had a full day of activities that cumulated in a fine community feast. The honourable Mr. Mitchell was very positive about what we had to say and his reception did the community proud. I would like to congratulate the community leadership and all the people in Fort Smith who worked together to make this event such a positive one. Hopefully, the message we receive from the federal government in the not to distant future about the road south will be a very positive one and move this process along. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Member's Statement 304-13(5): Fort Smith Highway To Southern Canada

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Rabesca .

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Member's Statement 305-13(5): Legal Drinking Age

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James Rabesca

North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I rise with a concern that affects us all. We live in a time when all our communities are suffering from high unemployment, increasing demands on our social programs, ever increasing youth crime and violence. The pressures on youth today are staggering. In most cases of crime, alcohol was involved. When asked why youth are in trouble, the answer usually is boredom. With boredom, peer pressure takes on more importance which can lead to making bad decisions, like starting to drink. In the NWT we have all of these problems in all our communities.

We also have one of the highest consumption rates of alcohol on a per capita basis than most in the rest of Canada. To add to this, we also have one of the lowest ages to legally drink in Canada. Is it no wonder that we have all the problems that we now face? Mr. Speaker, we can change the legal drinking age and later today I will ask the Minister responsible for the Liquor Control Board his views on this. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Member's Statement 305-13(5): Legal Drinking Age

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Erasmus .

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Member's Statement 306-13(5): Results Of The Pas, Manitoba Dog Sled Race

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Roy Erasmus

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to give results on the 105-mile world championship race in The Pas, Manitoba. Mr. Speaker, unfortunately this race was halted after two days because of bad temperatures. It was not because the temperatures were too harsh. It was because the temperatures had warmed up and there was considerable slush on the course which froze in the evening. It was considered dangerous conditions. After two days, the race was halted. I would like to give a

summary of the Northwest Territories entrants. After two days, the final results are: in second place was Frank Kelly from Yellowknife, in fourth place was Richard Beck from Yellowknife, in fifth place was Grant Beck from Yellowknife, in seventh place was Raymond Beck from Hay River; in eighth place was Arthur Beck from Hay River; in tenth place was Heather Beck from Yellowknife, in 12th place was Joe Hickes from Baker Lake, in 13th place was Danny Beck from Hay River and 15th place was Henry Landry from Kakisa.

There were a few people who did not finish, Sam Perrino from Yellowknife as well as Ernie Campbell from Yellowknife. Mr. Speaker, I am sure everybody in the Legislature here joins me in congratulating everyone who competed in this particular race. We wish them all the best in their southern tour. Thank you.

--Applause

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Member's Statement 306-13(5): Results Of The Pas, Manitoba Dog Sled Race

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Enuaraq .

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Member's Statement 307-13(5): The Need For A Social Worker In Broughton Island

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Tommy Enuaraq

Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning. Mr. Speaker, the mental and physical health of a community is important. Since October of 1997, the community of Broughton Island has been without the services of a social worker. Mr. Speaker, there are social workers available, but the high cost of housing in Broughton Island deters them from coming. When the rent is almost as much as your salary, there is little reason to come. Housing in smaller, remote communities need to be more affordable. They need to be more affordable to attract essential staff to our communities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause

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Member's Statement 307-13(5): The Need For A Social Worker In Broughton Island

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Todd .

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Member's Statement 308-13(5): Achievements Of Kivalliq Partners In Development

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It gives me great pleasure, today, to take this opportunity to tell Members of this Assembly about the successes that have been achieved by the Kivalliq Partners in Development.

Kivalliq Partners in Development was formed to deliver the region's economic and development programs and services in a coordinated and cooperative arrangement that draws on the strengths of these three partner organizations: one, Sakku Investments Incorporated, the business arm of the Kivalliq Inuit Association; two, the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development and three, Community Futures, a Government of the Northwest Territories funded organization mandated to provide small business loans to regional businesses to promote

economic growth through the creation of employment.

The Kivalliq Partners have a vision that each Kivalliq community will develop an experienced labour force and build the business infrastructure needed to create a growing economy, one which provides communities and residents opportunities to become more self-sufficient and self-reliant. Through a teamwork approach, which reduces duplication of effort and streamlines services in a cost-effective manner, the Kivalliq Partners provide one-stop shopping for all clients of the Keewatin region who seek economic development services and programs.

Mr. Speaker, the many achievements of the Kivalliq Partners in Development are too numerous to list in detail, but I will touch on some of the highlights:

In 1996-97, the value of projects distributed throughout the seven communities in the region totalled $5,201,567;

Local decision-making committees in the communities approved 30 percent of the total projects;

Ninety-eight percent of all approved projects were to majority-owned Inuit businesses;

The average amount of an approved application was $16,943, with a total of 307 applications approved, reflecting the Partners' commitment to small businesses in smaller communities;

These investments in business projects resulted in the creation of 4,880 weeks of employment for Kivalliq residents, with $1.952 million paid out in wages;

The Kivalliq Partners estimate a five percent reduction in the regional unemployment rate as a result of investments made in economic development, and

The Kivalliq Grants to Small Businesses provided assistance to over 132 residents with their projects, while the Kivalliq Training Program sponsored 370 local residents in skills' development, education, training and labour force developments.

Mr. Speaker, I ask for unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Member for Keewatin Central is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Do I have any nays? Mr. Todd , you have unanimous consent.

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Member's Statement 308-13(5): Achievements Of Kivalliq Partners In Development

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, colleagues. I do not say this often. Mr. Speaker, a goal-orientated partnership which achieves such positive results can only flourish through the dedication and commitment of a team of hard working individuals. I would like to pay tribute to a few of these people whose efforts have contributed to the success of Kivalliq Partners: the board of directors, including Mr. Joe Kaludjak, president, and Mr. Yvo Airut, vice- president; Mr.

Graeme Dargo, a good friend of mine, who has made a tireless contribution to economic development in the Keewatin region and who is to be congratulated on his recent promotion to the position of assistant deputy minister with the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs. MACA is, indeed, fortunate to be gaining such a talented and dedicated employee;

Mr. Ron Roach who replaces Mr. Dargo as superintendent of RWED in Rankin Inlet and who, I have every confidence, has the skill and abilities to carry on the good work which is now underway and last, but not least, Mr. Richard Connelly, managing director of Kivalliq Partners and for all of his talented and hard working staff.

Mr. Speaker, Kivalliq Partners in Development is an outstanding example of the growth that can be reached and the improvements that can be made to client services when government strives to work cooperatively with public agencies in the delivery of programs and services. I am extremely pleased this morning to be able to share this success story with Members of the Assembly today. Thank you.

--Applause

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Todd . Members' statements. Mr. Picco .

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Member's Statement 309-13(5): Nunavut Community Economic Development Conference

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Edward Picco

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, during the week of February 10th to 13th, an important community economic development conference was held in Iqaluit. The conference was called Parnaijiit, which roughly translates into people who prepare. The conference focused on community economic development and training for practitioners in the field. The conference was sponsored by Kakivak Association and the Baffin RWED office.

Mr. Speaker, the conference brought together over 60 delegates from across Nunavut. The delegates participated in workshops, panel discussions. We heard from guest speakers and had an opportunity to network with other professionals in the field.

The principal goal of the conference was to look at training and ongoing support for community economic development officers in Nunavut. The Standing Committee on Education for CANDO also participated. They introduced their National Certified Economic Developer Program. Attending the meeting, the CANDO participants also exchanged information and opinions with Nunavut community economic development workers and educators. James Paton of the Government of the Northwest Territories' RWED Baffin office, and a resident of Iqaluit, was selected to sit on the National CANDO Board.

Mr. Speaker, from all accounts, the conference was very successful. I would like to take this opportunity to thank the organizers from Kakivak and RWED for facilitating a very professional and informative conference. Plans are underway to follow up with the Parnaijiit conference in the near future. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Picco . Members' statements. Mr. Ootes .

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Member's Statement 310-13(4): Employment For Persons With Disabilities Research Project

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Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today, I want to talk about a new research project currently underway in Yellowknife. It is called the employment for persons with disability research project and its work began last month. Its goal is simple but its potential impact is quite huge.

Between now and the end of March, researchers will talk with as many employers around town as possible. They will be making employers aware of everything people with disabilities have to offer, as employees. Many people with disabilities are kept from working, not by their disability, but by our attitude toward them. Part of that involves the language we use to describe people. It is still commonplace to hear the terms disabled or handicapped. Workers in the field use, people with disabilities, in order to emphasize their clients are, in fact, people first.

Part of this research project's objective is to identify how we can improve our workplace environment for people who happen to have disabilities. That can involve everything from personal attitudes to improving access to buildings. We have, over the years, had people with disabilities elected to this very chamber and they have proved themselves capable indeed. While this project tries to bridge a gap that exists in parts of our community, it also affords us a chance to examine our personal attitudes toward people with disabilities and evaluate how we, one on one, can do better. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause.

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Member's Statement 310-13(4): Employment For Persons With Disabilities Research Project

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Roland .

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Member's Statement 311-13(5): The Need To Focus On Long-term Job Strategies

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Floyd Roland

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as a Member of the 13th Assembly, I have seen many things change. The biggest change I have seen is us going from spending to reductions. We have also seen the continuation of control being shifted from headquarters to the regions.

We have spoken about improving the lives of all northerners and this, Mr. Speaker, is where I believe we need to focus, or should I say refocus. Past governments have tried to help northerners by providing a level of social programs comparable to our southern counterparts. Mr. Speaker, healthy communities start with healthy families. Healthy families need parents to be positive role models. Part of being a positive role model is to instill in our children good work habits. This, Mr. Speaker, cannot be done without employment.

Mr. Speaker, jobs are what the people of the Northwest Territories need. This is where we need to start focusing or refocusing. If we are to reduce the dependency on government social programs, we, as a government, need job strategies, not just year-to-year strategies, but long-term job strategies. Mr. Speaker, if we are going to set these examples, we need to start focusing long term. We need to put people into jobs that they can show their children they can be positive role models. Instead of going to the income support office, they will be going to their work office and picking up a real pay cheque.

If we are going to make a difference, we need to start focusing on long-term commitments of this government.

Mr. Speaker, we have heard many a time how we can do this and I will bring it up one more time, roads, Mr. Speaker. We need to focus on roads, not just the one community or one area, but the whole of the Western Territory and the eastern if they would like to consider that. Long-term job strategies, Mr. Speaker, we need to start focusing on that. Thank you.

--Applause.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Members' statements. Mr. Krutko .

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Member's Statement 312-13(5): Presentation Of The Commissioner's Award For Bravery To Alayna Krutko And The Passing Of Clifford Francis

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have a good news, bad news, statement. First the good news, Mr. Speaker. I would like to congratulate my niece, Alayna Krutko of Fort Providence, who received the Commissioner's Award for bravery which was presented to her on Saturday.

--Applause.

This is an award which is given to an individual who shows acts of bravery. Alayna saved another young person from downing in the Mackenzie River.

My other statement, Mr. Speaker, is in regard to a close friend of mine, Clifford Francis, who lost his life tragically yesterday in Fort McPherson. Mr. Francis was in the prime of his life. He was trying to take steps to represent his community by serving time on the hamlet and band councils. He was a CARS operator in Fort McPherson.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to send my condolences out to the Francis family of Fort McPherson, and especially his common-law wife, Karen Collet, and his brothers and sisters. Thank you.

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Member's Statement 312-13(5): Presentation Of The Commissioner's Award For Bravery To Alayna Krutko And The Passing Of Clifford Francis

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Krutko . I have allowed Mr. Krutko to go ahead with his second one due to the circumstances, but the rule is quite clear on Members' statements. Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Antoine .

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Return To Oral Question 343-13(5): GNWT Role Re: Telephone Rates

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Page 992

Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, Mr. Ootes , on February 17th, asked a question in regard to the Government of the Northwest Territories' role on telephone rates.

The CRTC will hold regional hearings on the High Cost Area Fund in Iqaluit on June 25, 1998. The CRTC has been asked to establish a video link from Yellowknife to the hearing and to have audio conference links from Cambridge Bay, Hay River, Inuvik and Rankin Inlet.

Other one-day regional hearings will be held in: Whitehorse, Yukon; Prince Rupert, British Columbia; Grand Prairie, Alberta; Timmins, Ontario; Thompson, Manitoba; Val d'Or, Quebec and Deer Lake, Newfoundland. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Returns to oral questions. Mr. Todd .

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Return To Oral Question 151-13(5): Employment Generated Through Aurora Fund

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Page 993

John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In return to an oral question asked by Mr. Picco on January 29th with respect to employment generated through the Aurora Fund.

In making lending decisions, the Aurora Fund board of directors considers applicants whose projects will, one, create and/or maintain jobs; two, provide for economic diversification and/or three, attract new capital

To date, there have been 44 full and part-time jobs created or maintained as a result of loans made by the Aurora Fund. In addition, some temporary jobs were created during the installations or construction of certain projects. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Page 993

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Enuaraq .

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Question 401-13(5): The Need For A Social Worker In Broughton Island

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 993

Tommy Enuaraq

Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As indicated in my Member's statement, Broughton Island needs a social worker. Will the Minister advise me when the community of Broughton Island will get a social worker? My question is directed to the Minister of Health and Social Services , the honourable Mr. Ng . Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 993

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

The Minister of Health and Social Services , Mr. Ng .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 993

Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I cannot speak of a date when a social worker will be placed in Broughton Island. I can say that I will check with the Iqaluit Regional Health and Social Services Board to find out what the status is of recruitment for that position and find out what steps are being taken in the interim to provide services for the community of Broughton Island for social services. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 993

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Mr. Miltenberger .

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Question 402-13(5): GNWT Job Evaluation System

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 993

Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question will be addressed to the Premier though it relates more to a labour issue. It is in regard to the job evaluation system that the government is working toward implementing. I am concerned based on what I hear the union saying that they see this prograding job evaluation system as meaningless. How does the government anticipate or plan to bridge what appears to be a significant gap between themselves and the UNW given the tight timeframes if they want to negotiate something before April, 1998? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 993

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Mr. Premier .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister of Finance and the FMBS is involved in negotiations with the union. We hope to bridge the gap by negotiating with the union to come to a good settlement for all people of the north. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger .

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Question 402-13(5): GNWT Job Evaluation System

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 993

Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the UNW indicates that they were not involved or consulted as this whole system was developed and that now, they are faced with responding to something after the fact, as opposed to having had a proactive role at the front end. Could the Premier indicate how this system was developed and was there consultation along the way or is that just now taking place? Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

Mr. Morin .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The UNW, if I heard the Member's question correctly, is saying that they were not involved but, in fact, Mr. Speaker, the UNW was provided training on the Hay Job Evaluation System in 1997, prior to it being used to evaluate jobs. At that time, there were no objections to the Hay Job Evaluation System or the process for evaluating the jobs. The UNW appeared supportive of the initiative to develop a bias-free job evaluation system for implementation. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Is the Premier confident in spite of the apparent initial negative

response from the UNW that, in fact, over the next six weeks that an agreement will be able to be negotiated and that there will be sufficient room to give and take to reach a satisfactory negotiated settlement? Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

Mr. Morin .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We, as a government, have put our position on the table. We have made it very public, but we feel it is fair to all northern people in these negotiations. No matter what you do from one portion of government, whether it is in our envelope of pay and benefits, it reflects on other portions, for example, program delivery and our ability to carry those things out and do them affordably. We are hopeful. We go into it very positively that we are working with people who are very committed to the Northwest Territories and they want to see the best for the union membership they represent, as well as for northern people whom we all represent. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Mr. Roland .

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Question 403-13(5): Long-term Employment Strategies

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 994

Floyd Roland

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question at this time will be directed to the Premier . Mr. Speaker, in my Member's statement, I talked about jobs and the need for long-term strategies. I would like to know if the Premier has directed any of his Ministers to look at the long term strategies or any long-term job strategy initiatives. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

Mr. Premier .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have been looking at that as a government for the Northwest Territories since we got here, trying to create economic activity. We have followed a very direct route. Number one, balance our budget, get our books in order so that the Northwest Territories is a good place to invest. You have a solid government which is going forward with a balance sheet that is positive and I think that is the number one step. Now we can get on with creating the jobs, and we are doing that by working with the private sector because it is the private sector that will create the jobs.

We are also working with Members of this Legislative Assembly on initiatives in their regions that we would like to see moved on. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Roland .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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Floyd Roland

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the reason I bring this up is, so far as a Member of the 13th Assembly, we have spoken of job initiatives, but they have been short-term, year to year. However, I would like to know, does this government have in place or is going to put in place, a job strategy that might include the whole of the territory? Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

Mr. Morin .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have been doing that with a certain degree of success. Through this budget, we have brought in tax relief programs, tax relief for businesses to create jobs. We have our infrastructure program that is ongoing. We have reduced interest rates for our business loans. As a government, we have made changes in regulations as well. We also have the Aurora Fund that we kicked off and started. This is all creating an atmosphere and opportunities for the private sector to create jobs in the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Roland .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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Floyd Roland

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have asked about long-term job strategies. Although this government is working in certain fields, I would like to know, specifically, is there a long-term strategy for highways that would see many communities among the whole west benefiting from people being employed? Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

Mr. Morin .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, the Department of Transportation is working on the transportation strategy. The only part of the transportation strategy that is really missing is the money. It is good to have a strategy, but unless we do have some money tied to that strategy, then it is not going to go very far. We have good intentions, but intentions only go as far as the dollars can make them go. So, we are working with the Minister of Transportation to ensure we identify the limited dollars we do have to put into that strategy. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Final supplementary, Mr. Roland .

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Floyd Roland

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We always seem to run into that problem, where do the dollars come from, but the reason I bring this up, Mr. Speaker, is that we need to start focusing on how we look at these projects. Is it a one lump sum of $700 million, $800 million or are we going to do this over 50 or 20 years? Are we looking at those initiatives and different

ways of doing these big projects? Thank you.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Mr. Morin .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Member is absolutely correct that is how we have to look at it. We could not look at, for example, the road from Wrigley to Tuktoyaktuk as a $900 million bill. We have to look at how it affects the economy and how we can budget for that over a long period of time. We already have a proposal in from Inuvik and Tuktoyaktuk people. The councils from each community got together and developed an excellent proposal. I believe it was $400 million for that small

section of highway. The people in that area who know the country and their resources have said they can do it for approximately $40 million. That alone justifies us to take a closer look at that. We have to work with those communities to develop that. Also, Mr. Speaker, we are working with our southern counterparts, provincial jurisdictions, to get their assistance because anything that happens in the Northwest Territories has spinoff effects, especially for Alberta, Ontario, Manitoba and other jurisdictions.

They all get a certain percentage of revenues when we create economic activities in the Northwest Territories. Also, Mr. Speaker, we cannot let the federal government off the hook. The federal government developed this country. They are the ones who put in all the airports, the Trans Canada Highway, the St. Lawrence Seaway, the railroad to connect this country from sea to sea. They have a responsibility in the Northwest Territories also to help the Northwest Territories with infrastructures. We have to also work with the federal government. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Mr. Rabesca .

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Question 404-13(5): Legal Drinking Age

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 995

James Rabesca

North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, earlier today during my Member's statement, I made reference to the legal drinking age, the problems the youth are facing today. It is important that the youth find a true path and stay focused. The only way to prevent or at least deter them from drinking would be to raise the legal drinking age. I would like to ask the Minister responsible for the Liquor Control Board, Mr. Todd , his views on this matter. What would be the procedure to get this changed? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. The Minister of Finance , Mr. Todd .

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Of course, I have personal opinions which I do not think I would be at liberty to say because as the Finance Minister responsible for the Liquor Commission, I must take into consideration all the northerners' opinions on alcohol. I think it is fair to say that all of us who have been in this country a long time, either through birth or desire, are concerned about what the intake of alcohol does and all the ramifications of it. I know that when I came to this country in 1965 as a 17 and half year old kid, I think at that time the age was 21 years old.

Would it be appropriate to go back to that? I do not know. We would have to ask the public at large if that would be an appropriate approach to take. It certainly is not in any other jurisdiction across Canada, but I do recognize my honourable colleague's concerns. They are ones I am equally concerned with and certainly we would be prepared to have a tentative look at that. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Mr. Enuaraq .

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Question 405-13(5): Disposition Of Surplus Funding In Municipalities

Item 6: Oral Questions

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Tommy Enuaraq

Baffin Central

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will be speaking in Inuktitut. My question is directed to the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs , the Honourable Manitok Thompson . The hamlets are allocated some funding through Municipal and Community Affairs. My question is with respect to the funding that is allocated to the municipalities, what do they do with the surplus? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Translation ends)

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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Manitok Thompson

Aivilik

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. With respect to the surplus that is allocated to the hamlet, it is left up to the hamlet as to what to do with them. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Translation ends)

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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Tommy Enuaraq

Baffin Central

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask another question with respect to the surplus in the hamlet council. Would Municipal and Community Affairs be able to allocate more funding to this surplus if the surplus is taking place before April? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Translation ends)

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Manitok Thompson

Aivilik

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. With respect to the surplus in the hamlet, as I understand it, I am not too sure what they do with the smaller funding and as to which community the Member is talking about. Can he explain to me which community he is referring to? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Translation ends)

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Mr. Enuaraq , supplementary.

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Page 996

Tommy Enuaraq

Baffin Central

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Supplementary to my question, can the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs tell me as to whether she has heard if any communities had given back some of their surplus, in particular for Baffin communities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Translation ends)

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Manitok Thompson

Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I really do not know what the Member is referring to. If he is asking are the communities in his region giving back money to the regional offices, I do not know. Can he clarify that please? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Supplementary. Mr. Enuaraq . That would be your third.

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Tommy Enuaraq

Baffin Central

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just want to ask the Minister this question now. Can she try and find out within her department if any of the surpluses that are being left in the Baffin communities, are being sent back to her department? Can she find this out for me? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Translation ends)

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Manitok Thompson

Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not know what he is referring to. Can he clarify his question? I have not had any concerns raised from the hamlets about what he seems to be referring to; that is, if they are returning all their money back to the government. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 406-13(5): Surplus Funding In Broughton Island

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 996

Levi Barnabas

High Arctic

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to follow up on my colleague's question about the returning of a hamlet's surplus. Mr. Speaker, we learned this morning that the community of Broughton Island had a surplus, and the surplus was returned to the Honourable Manitok Thompson 's Department of Municipal and Community Affairs. I would like to know why this happened, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Manitok Thompson

Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to thank the Member for giving me a clarification of the previous question. I will be talking to my department to see what has happened in terms of Broughton Island and I will get back to the Member. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 996

Levi Barnabas

High Arctic

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, will the Minister assure this House that for other communities which have surpluses, it will not happen like the one in Broughton Island? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Manitok Thompson

Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Is the Member asking me about the surplus for Broughton Island that is being returned to my department because I am not aware of this concern? I will get back to the Members as soon as I find out what has happened here because to date I have not been told about this concern from the community. I will get back to the Members as soon as I can on the specific issue and assure the House. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 407-13(5): Property Management Pilot Project Update

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 996

Edward Picco

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, last week during the review of the Housing Corporation, we found that the property management of 480 staff housing units is currently under contribution to local housing associations. At the same time, there had been a pilot project done in the Keewatin region where property management services of staff housing had been done. I wonder if the Minister for the FMBS could update this House if there has been a review of the success or failure of the pilot project in the Keewatin region? Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

The Minister responsible for the Financial Management Board , Mr. Todd .

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Yes, Mr. Speaker. I am not aware of whether a review is being done or not. Certainly there was an intent to have one. I will check with Mr. Voytilla and see if that review has been done or if it is underway. If it is not, I will check when it is going to be underway and advise my colleague. Thank you.

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Edward Picco

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, at some time in the past, there were questions on this area. There was some concern or thought that this type of project might be put into other regions. Would the Minister be able to confirm at this time that, indeed, no privatization of property management of staff housing in other regions would occur before this report on the Keewatin pilot project has been completed? Thank you.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

No, I cannot confirm that, Mr. Speaker, but certainly, whatever lessons we have learned from the Keewatin will be invaluable should we decide to do any further private sector initiatives in the property management side of things. Thank you.

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Edward Picco

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there was some concern in my riding that indeed, the government was looking at privatizing the property management of staff housing. One of the concerns brought forward was from the local housing association that they might have a loss of revenue because of the privatization. Has the Minister looked at that area of the privatization? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

It is important to point out there are 13 communities in Baffin Island, with 13 housing associations. The privatization of property management would be a regional privatization thrust. In Iqaluit, I think my honourable colleague is saying that the local housing association does it there. I would suspect if we went to a regional privatization initiative and the local housing association was not the successful bidder, there would be a loss of revenue for them. We have not reached that stage right now and I will check with Mr. Voytilla and advise the Member, either through this House or on a personal basis, of what the status is. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Health and Social Services , Mr. Ng , regarding the accreditation of the alcohol and drug treatment centres in the territories. I would like to ask the Minister what has been done in regard to the accreditation of these programs in the north?

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Samuel Gargan

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I do not have that information available with me. I would be willing to have it ready as soon as possible or if our budget comes up for review, later today. Thank you.

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could the Minister tell me who is doing the accreditation for the alcohol and drug treatment centres in the Northwest Territories?

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, again, I do not have that information. I will commit to having it available as soon as our budget is up. Thank you.

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Question 409-13(5): Update On Keewatin Pilot Project

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 997

Levi Barnabas

High Arctic

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is directed to the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs . Mr. Speaker, I understand the Minister of MACA was attending the meeting about the Keewatin pilot project. Could the Minister update this House on the outcome of that meeting? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Samuel Gargan

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Manitok Thompson

Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I was fortunate to have a meeting with the leadership in Keewatin for an hour before I went to Iqaluit with the Manitoba delegation on the way to Iqaluit and also coming back for the afternoon on the last day. The meetings went really well and the leadership have taken the presentation that we presented to them. They will be going to their communities and presenting the presentation to all their communities and whoever might be interested in the project. That was the next step for the communities to talk about in more detail. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Barnabas.

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Levi Barnabas

High Arctic

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I understand the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs is also planning to have another pilot project for the Baffin. Are there any concerns that were raised from the communities of Baffin about how this Keewatin pilot project is doing? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Manitok Thompson

Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That is news to me. I had never said that I am doing a pilot project for the Baffin region or any other region, except for the Inuvik Beaufort Delta that have also investigated this pilot. What we have said was that if this Keewatin pilot project goes ahead or if the leadership wanted it to go that way, then the other regions might take advantage of it. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Levi Barnabas

High Arctic

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, when we were discussing this Keewatin pilot project in our meetings, I understand the Minister said that there might be a pilot project similar to the one in the Keewatin. Are there any plans for the Baffin communities to go through this kind of pilot project? Thank you.

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Manitok Thompson

Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Last August, when I was in Rankin for the leadership meeting, we did a presentation to the Baffin leadership to tell them this is what we are doing in the Keewatin region. There are no plans to do a pilot project in the Baffin region. Thank you.

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Kevin O'Brien

Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is to the Premier in reference to the diamond mining situation here and the possible spin-offs. My question to the Premier is, has there been any consideration given to looking at placing these value-added industries in the eastern Arctic, for example, in my communities, Arviat and Baker Lake, where there is 72 percent unemployment? Thank you.

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. No.

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Kevin O'Brien

Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That was a very detailed answer. I would ask the Premier why any consideration would not be given to the small communities in the eastern Arctic?

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have always been on record, as this government has always been on record, that development in the north, whether it be diamond mining, gold mining or whatever, should be number one and benefit the communities closest to them. We do have community benefit agreements that are signed. For example, we do have a socio-economic agreement signed with this diamond mine, as well where the pickup points are, it has been fairly clear from day one, so as a position of the government and position of the mining company, basically. Thank you.

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Kevin O'Brien

Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you for the clarification. Could the Premier tell this House what efforts are in play now to further encourage mining development in the eastern Arctic? Recently, we have had a number of delegations travel to Europe for the most part, trying to benefit the communities here in the western Arctic. Therefore, what efforts are being made to capitalize on any possibilities in the eastern Arctic? Thank you.

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Kivalliq Partnership which Mr. Todd talked about earlier, as the MLA from Keewatin region, is one of the things that the government is involved in. Also, we, as a government, are on record saying that we do support development in the north and we will work with northern developers, as long as it benefits northerners. We are doing that. Thank you.

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Question 411-13(5): Hay Job Evaluation Details

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Seamus Henry

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister responsible for the Financial Management Board , Mr. Todd . On Friday, Mr. Speaker, I believe the Minister was very clear in regard to questions which were raised on the pay equity issue and the Hay and Associates re-evaluation plan. He answered questions that my honourable colleague Mr. Miltenberger posed. This weekend, I have had more than one person contact me and in discussions with Mr. Erasmus this morning, I find that he also has had lots of people contact him regarding this issue.

It is not clear to a number of the employees of the Government of the Northwest Territories what exactly happens under this evaluation process and although the Minister has made it clear what happens to the present employees, are red-circled, as he identified them as; what happens to them? I would appreciate it if the Minister would also confirm what happens to the employees who are being red-circled and what happens to those employees if they change to another job within the government? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Let me say from the out set, what we have tried to do in this latest run of advertising questions in the House and interviews we have had is: one, provide some clarity to the issue; two, provide some facts and give some factual, chronological overview of where we are and why we are where we are at today. I hope I can reassure the employees. I understand that the union is out there suggesting our position is meaningless. I have said consistently we have to stop the rhetoric and get down to the bargaining table. We are judged based on what we do, not what we say.

I am telling this House and our employees, those employees under the job evaluation system whose job may be reclassified down, will be red-circled. There will be no loss in pay. As a matter of fact, most of the female gender, pay will increase. We will put more money into the hands of our female employees, which they rightly deserve.

--Applause

If somebody who moves from a job that has been reclassified into another which has been reclassified downward, then they will get that pay level... let us say an employee is classified at pay level 25 and it gets reclassified to pay level 22, they will be red-circled at 25, which means they will continue to get their salary at pay level 25.

However, if they move to another job which is at pay level 22, they will move to pay level 22. This is my understanding of it. As far as I am concerned, this government has dealt with pay equity in a fair and reasonable way. I want to say again for the record, I want to say this to the employees directly, nobody, absolutely nobody who is in the system right now will lose money in their current job. In fact, most of them will gain more money. We have to get beyond this kind of rhetoric that we have consistently seen and get on to a meaningful dialogue and negotiate.

This side of the bargaining table has not used rhetoric. This side of the bargaining table has said we want to negotiate a reasonable settlement. This side of the bargaining table has put what we think we can afford and the reasons why the job evaluation was done. We want to get on with resolving this issue in a reasonable and fair way and get to the negotiating table and bargain to put more money into the hands of our employees, both on the retroactive side and on the ongoing side.

I sincerely hope that our UNW colleagues, who I see as our partners in this process, will agree with that and get on with negotiating. Thank you.

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Seamus Henry

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the Minister for that and I would confirm that is the same as what he said on Friday's Hansard on page 1578 and page 1579, for those who wish to check. My question to the Minister is, do I understand it correctly that new employees coming into the Government of the Northwest Territories - and he used a position of coming into a job that was classified at pay level 25, and under the reclassification it would be 22 pay level - and coming in and becoming an employee of the Government of the Northwest Territories in that position would start at pay level 22, but anyone within the system would still remain at the higher pay level? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not have the details before me. There is a greater percentage of employees who will get more money because the pay level in terms of the job evaluation has been reclassified according to Hay and Associates. Just a small group of employees, I believe, will be reclassified. For anybody new coming into a position which is being reclassified from 25 to 22, for example, it will be advertised at the 22 pay level. The current employees will be red-circled and will continue to get their pay as they currently receive it.

As I have said consistently, most of them will get more money based on the pay equity resolve. I want to say clearly that the $9 million we believe it will take to bring a level playing field in pay equity, April 1, 1998, will come into being if we seek a resolve to the pay equity issue. We simply have to find the resolve to the pay equity issue to be able to pay our employees those additional dollars they rightly deserve. Thank you.

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Seamus Henry

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A lot of references has been made to the Hay and Associates report. Would the

Minister consider making this report available or tabling it in this House? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Of course, the UNW is basically saying that the Hay and Associates report is flawed. Our position is that it is probably the most detailed job evaluation system this government has done. In fact, I am advised that the UNW was provided with training in 1997 on the Hay Job Evaluation System. At that time, according to my records, nobody disputed the fact of what we were doing then.

I will take whatever steps is necessary to provide this House with the Hay and Associates job evaluation position and the work that was done to provide a gender free workplace with respect to jobs in the government. It is important to point out that in the Hay and Associates work we dealt with every single job. We used male and female employees to determine what appropriate changes had to be made to bring a gender free, biased free job evaluation system to this government. The work which was done by that group should be applauded. Thank you.

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Seamus Henry

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just to follow up on the last question I asked for greater clarity. I did not hear the Minister say that he would, but I would ask the question again. Will the Minister make that report available to the general public by tabling it in the House? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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