Debates of March 9th, 2009

This is page numbers 2893 - 2920 of the Hansard for the 16th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was communities .

Topics

Oral Questions

Members Present

Prayer

Minister’s Statement 57-16(3): Response To Committee Of The Whole Review Of The 2009-2010 Main Estimates

Minister’s Statement 58-16(3): NWT Celebrates International Women’s Day With The Wise Women Awards

Minister’s Statement 59-16(3): General Property Assessment – General Taxation Area

Minister’s Statement 60-16(3): Community Futures Report

Traditional On-The-Land Programs For Tu Nedhe Youth

Income Thresholds For Homeownership Programs

Importance Of Traditional Knowledge And Gender-Based Analysis Policy

Recognition Of Recipients Of Yk 1 Long-Term Service Awards

Congratulations To Carol Morin, Aboriginal Achievement Award Winner

Concerns With Quality Of Repair And Maintenance On Public Housing Stock In Nunakput

Memorandum Of Understanding Between GNWT And The Gwich’in Tribal Council

Concerns Regarding North Slave Correctional Centre

Aboriginal Sport Circle

Organ Donation Program

Upgrades At Diamond Jenness Secondary School

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Status Of Gender-Based Analysis

Organ Donation Program

Construction Standards And Inspections For Public Housing

Assessment Of Infrared Energy Technology

Concerns Regarding North Slave Correctional Centre

Funding For NWT Team For Canada Summer Games

Review Of Income Threshold Limit For Homeownership Program

Memorandum Of Understanding Between GNWT And The Gwich’in Tribal Council

Funding For On-The-Land Programming For Tu Nedhe Youth

Aboriginal Sport Circle

Assessment Of Infrared Energy Technology

Tabled Document 24-16(3): NWT Communities Futures Program Annual Report 2007-2008

Low Carbon Fuel Standard

Bill 10: Appropriation Act (Operations Expenditures) 2009-2010

Bill 11:

An Act To Amend The Appropriation Act (Infrastructure Expenditures) 2009-2010

Bill 12: Securities Transfer Act

Bill 13:

An Act To Amend The Commissioner’s Land Act

Bill 14:

An Act To Amend The Motor Vehicles Act

Bill 10: Appropriation Act (Operations Expenditures) 2009-2010

Bill 11:

An Act To Amend The Appropriation Act (Infrastructure Expenditures) 2009-2010

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Report of Committee of the Whole

Bill 1:

An Act To Amend The Historical Resources Act

Bill 3: International Interest In Mobile Aircraft Equipment Act

Bill 10: Appropriation Act (Operations Expenditures) 2009-2010

Bill 11:

An Act To Amend The Appropriation Act (Infrastructure Expenditures) 2009-2010

Assent To Bills

Orders of the Day

The House met at 1:35 p.m.

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Prayer

Prayer

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Colleagues, for your information today and for the information of our guests in the gallery, our interpreters this week are channel two, Gwich’in; and, channel three, Inuvialuktun.

Orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers’ statements. The honourable Minister of Finance , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Minister’s Statement 57-16(3): Response To Committee Of The Whole Review Of The 2009-2010 Main Estimates

Ministers’ Statements

Thebacha

Michael Miltenberger

Minister of Finance

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Last week, Members of the Legislative Assembly completed the review of the 2009-10 Main Estimates and concurred that the appropriation bill be introduced without delay. Later today, at the appropriate time, I will be bringing forward the legislation to enact the 2009-10 budget.

Cabinet is appreciative of the thorough review of the GNWT’s 2009-10 operational budget undertaken by Committee of the Whole. The detailed exchange of information and view has provided Cabinet with valuable feedback from Members on the budget measures and provided the public with a better understanding both of the fiscal challenge we face and of the priorities of the Legislative Assembly. This budget has been an example of how consensus government can work successfully.

Over the past few weeks, a number of motions have been passed during the Committee of the Whole review of the 2009-2010 Main Estimates. In considering these motions, the government has determined that these require additional time to review and understand their spending and program implications. We look forward to further discussions

on these issues with standing committee over the coming months as we move forward in our fiscal planning processes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . The honourable Minister responsible for the NWT Status of Women Council, Ms. Lee .

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Minister’s Statement 58-16(3): NWT Celebrates International Women’s Day With The Wise Women Awards

Ministers’ Statements

Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, International Women’s Day, on March 8th ,

is a global day of celebration concerning all women around the world that honour women’s advancement while reminding all of the continued vigilance and action required to ensure that women’s equality is gained and maintained in every aspect of society.

In the NWT, the Status of Women Council of the NWT celebrates International Women’s Day by hosting the Wise Women Awards and celebrating the winners with a Bread and Roses Luncheon. The awards are meant to honour women who are role models in their communities, who provide counselling and caregiver services to others. It recognizes the advocacy work, the support and education given to improve the Status of Women in the NWT.

The award is meant to recognize individual women and to encourage all women to continue their great work. This year’s theme is Leading Change. Mr. Speaker, it is my greatest pleasure to announce the recipients of the Wise Women Awards for 2009: for Beaufort-Delta, Ms. Mary Ann Ross…

---Applause

…for Sahtu, Cece McCauley…

---Applause

…for Deh Cho, Ruby Jumbo…

---Applause

…for South Slave, Chief Frieda Martselos…

---Applause

…for North Slave and Tlicho, Lynn Brooks.

---Applause

Mr. Speaker, we celebrated their achievement in the Great Hall earlier today and I would like to ask the House to join me in expressing our appreciation and congratulations to all of them for a lifetime of work for the betterment of families and northern communities. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee . The honourable Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs , Mr. Robert McLeod .

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Minister’s Statement 59-16(3): General Property Assessment – General Taxation Area

Ministers’ Statements

Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I would like to provide Members of the Legislative Assembly with an update concerning Municipal and Community Affairs’ completion of the general assessment of properties in the general taxation area of the Northwest Territories.

MACA is a property assessment authority in the general taxation area of the NWT. The general taxation area is made up of 18 communities across the NWT and all properties in the Hinterland which are located outside community boundaries.

The Property Assessment and Taxation Act requires MACA to undertake a general assessment of properties once every 10 years, with the most recent general assessment completed in October of 2008. The general assessment ensures fairness and equity by updating the values of all properties in the taxation area. As a result of the recent general assessment completed in October 2008, the general assessment assures fairness and equity by updating the values of all properties in the taxation area. As a result of the recent general assessment, most property values in the general taxation area have increased.

Notices of assessment have been mailed to property owners. The assessment rolls are available for public inspection at the community offices in each general taxation area community, MACA’s regional offices, or at the lands administration division of MACA in Yellowknife. Advertisements with information about the general assessment were also placed in territorial and regional newspapers during the week of January 26, 2009.

By viewing the assessment rolls, property owners can compare the assessed values of their properties with other properties in the community with similar characteristics. If property owners are

dissatisfied with their property assessment, they can submit an appeal to the Territorial Board of Revision.

Notices of assessment are not invoices that require payment. Rather, they list the assessed value of the land and the value of the improvements that are on the land for each property owner. When property values are multiplied by a mill rate, the result will be the property taxes that each property owner will pay. My colleague the Minister of Finance used the information contained on the assessment rolls for the general taxation area in the analysis to determine if an adjustment to the general property and education mill rates were required. Changes to the mill rates in the general taxation area were announced by the Minister of Finance in his 2009-2010 budget speech.

MACA and the Department of Finance have been working together on monitoring the property assessment and taxation cycle. MACA has started to look at options to reduce the time span between general assessments so that fluctuations in assessed values resulting from general assessments are minimized.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Minister responsible for Industry, Tourism and Investment , Mr. Bob McLeod .

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Minister’s Statement 60-16(3): Community Futures Report

Ministers’ Statements

Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, later today I will be tabling the 2007-2008 Community Futures Program Annual Report. This document is an amalgamation of reports provided by the seven Community Futures development corporations, the community-based organizations that provide lending and counselling services to small business.

As we know, the strength and health of the economy of the Northwest Territories is directly reflected by the strength and health of our small and medium-sized businesses. To that end, funding the Community Futures Program remains a cornerstone of business support provided by the Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment.

The Community Futures development corporations are dedicated to assisting small and medium-sized businesses across the Northwest Territories by providing loans, business advice, and entrepreneurial training programs. Their activity has proven time and again to be essential in assisting businesses in communities to take advantage of the opportunities that have come from development activity in the Northwest Territories.

Just as the Community Futures development corporations worked to increase the growth of

business in the communities during the good times, we are seeing that they are now active in limiting the damage caused to northern business by today’s economic downturn. The proposed budget for the Community Futures Program for the 2009-2010 year is $1.132 million. I am confident that the investments made by this government through this program will be dollars well spent and that the Community Futures development corporations will continue to play a prominent role in the economic growth of small business.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Item 3, Members’ statements. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe , Mr. Beaulieu .

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Traditional On-The-Land Programs For Tu Nedhe Youth

Members’ Statements

Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Today I would like to talk about the importance of providing traditional on-the-land programs for Tu Nedhe youth. As mentioned before, the total population of Tu Nedhe is 91 percent aboriginal and of the total population almost 40 percent is 25 years and younger. As you know, the youth have a critical role to play in the preservation of traditional practices. However, modern day pastimes are continuing to displace traditional activities on a daily basis.

The Internet, Play Station, satellite TV, and even cell phones present youth and families today with a monumental challenge of keeping important cultural traditions alive. Also, in addition to these pressures, the high cost of living in small communities continues to have a negative impact when it comes to maintaining these important traditional skills.

When communities have a population of 90 to 95 percent aboriginal, traditional on-the-land programs must be a regularly funded program in the same manner as other municipal programs. An adequately funded traditional on-the-land program can result in reduced health and social costs. Traditional foods can reduce the cost on store-bought food and many on-the-land activities enable the individual have a healthier lifestyle through fresh air and good old hard work. There’s even something to be said about the emotional well-being of individuals who are on the land.

In addition to this, the local economy will benefit with equipment purchases from local businesses and the generation of additional economy through fur harvesting.

The schools in Fort Resolution and Lutselk’e are making a good effort to integrate on-the-land programs for their curriculum, but, with limited resources, these activities are mostly confined to the classroom and not out on the land.

March is Aboriginal Languages Month and, as we know, on-the-land plays a critical role in teaching and preserving aboriginal languages. An adequately funded on-the-land traditional program is one effective way of maintaining aboriginal languages and is an excellent opportunity for teaching both traditional and important life skills to the youth. In a nutshell…

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Mr. Beaulieu , your time for your Member’s statement has expired.

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Traditional On-The-Land Programs For Tu Nedhe Youth

Members’ Statements

Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted

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Traditional On-The-Land Programs For Tu Nedhe Youth

Members’ Statements

Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

In a nutshell, a properly run and adequately funded on-the-land program will result in a healthier community. Later I will follow up my statement with questions for the appropriate Minister.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Income Thresholds For Homeownership Programs

Members’ Statements

Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Today I would like to speak about homeownership programs. The NWT Housing Corporation provides assistance to prospective first time home buyers who are not able to get a mortgage to finance a home through a bank or private mortgage broker. Unfortunately, some of my constituents who are trying to buy homes are refused assistance because they make too much money. These are people who are working with a steady, but modest, income. They are excellent candidates for homeownership. Not only that, homes are sitting empty in our communities right now.

These families were refused mortgages under the Housing Corporation programs. The Housing Corporation income thresholds are set so low that they are not qualifying for homeownership programs; they are falling through the cracks. Now is the time to be proactive and review these thresholds. We need to ensure we are providing a reasonable and practical housing program. We must provide a benefit to our families and support homeownership in our communities and at the

same time we can reduce the need for private public housing.

I will be asking the Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation questions at the appropriate time.

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Income Thresholds For Homeownership Programs

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . The honourable Member for Great Slave , Mr. Abernethy .

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Importance Of Traditional Knowledge And Gender-Based Analysis Policy

Members’ Statements

Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I’d like to go on the record and applaud Cabinet and the Minister responsible for implementing the policy on traditional knowledge announced last week. This policy goes a long way in acknowledging that aboriginal peoples of the Northwest Territories have acquired a vast store of traditional knowledge through their experiences of centuries of living in close harmony with the land. Utilizing this knowledge is important in designing and implementing policies and procedures and the development of legislation within the Northwest Territories. Once again, I’d like to thank Cabinet for taking this important step.

Now, I’d like this government to take the next step and implement a similar policy on gender-based analysis. Similar to traditional knowledge, implementation of a gender-based analysis policy makes good sense. A policy on gender-based analysis will put people at the heart of policy development. It leads to better government by involving both women and men and makes full use of human resources.

Gender-based analysis makes gender equality issues visible in the mainstream of society, taking into account the full diversity of men and women. This type of analysis contributes to the resolution of past systemic discrimination and contributes to a more efficient policy.

In addition, gender-based analysis responds to the provisions in legal documents, such as the Canadian Charter of Human Rights and Freedoms, the Federal Plan for Gender Equality, the Canadian Human Rights Act, and various international obligations and commitments. In short, it is a tool that will help GNWT develop more appropriate and relevant as well as socially and culturally aware programs, policies and legislation.

As a government, we must commit to move forward and implement gender-based analysis into our day-to-day operations. Let’s take the next step like Cabinet did with the implementation of the Traditional Knowledge Policy. There are already

organizations in the NWT working on gender-based analysis. I encourage Cabinet to have their staff work with organizations such as the Status of Women Council of the NWT to develop and implement the policy and arrange for appropriate training of GNWT staff on the use of gender-based analysis.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. At the appropriate time, I will have some questions for the Premier .

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The honourable Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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Recognition Of Recipients Of Yk 1 Long-Term Service Awards

Members’ Statements

Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I want to recognize some hardworking constituents of my riding. Four of them were among the 21 employees of Yellowknife Education District No. 1 who were recognized this past Saturday by their employer and their elected board of trustees and their peers for their long service to the District. Two are part of the 16 YK 1 staff who will be receiving the same recognition tomorrow for five years of excellent service to the District. I would like to tell you a bit about each of these individuals.

Mrs. Pirjo Vanonen has been with YK 1 for 25 years and is today as bright a light in the school as she was when she first started. She is appreciated by teachers and students alike and was a fixture at J.H. Sissons School for many years, only recently transferring to William MacDonald School where she continues to positively impact students as an educational assistant.

Christeen Hanuschuk has 15 years of service with YK 1. She is currently teaching Grade 1 at Range Lake North School. We are lucky to have such an experienced teacher in handling students who are just embarking on their years of schooling.

Wendy Reese-Wile is another accomplished teacher, a neighbour of mine in Frame Lake. Wendy has been with the district for the last 10 years. She is at Mildred Hall School working as a guidance counsellor with students there.

Mike Hanuschuk, yes, he and Christeen are connected. Mike has been with YK 1 for 10 years and is currently teaching a Grade 3/4 split class at Range Lake North School. Mike has previous teaching experience at Aurora College Yellowknife Campus, working with adult learners.

The two YK 1 staff who are residents in Frame Lake who will be receiving recognition tomorrow for five years of excellent service are Cathy Modeste-Short, who works at Mildred Hall School as an

educational assistant. Cathy provides invaluable help in the classroom. There are many days when, without Cathy, staff wouldn’t be able to keep it all together. Last but not least is Steve Elms who works at Range Lake North School as a program support teacher. Steve is another YK 1 staffer who gives invaluable assistance to both teachers and students.

I want to offer my congratulations to all of these wonderful and deserving people and my heartfelt thanks to each and every one of them for the work they do. They do work with our most precious resource -- our children -- day in and day out. Thank you, Mr. Speaker

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . The honourable Member for Weledeh , Mr. Bromley .

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Congratulations To Carol Morin, Aboriginal Achievement Award Winner

Members’ Statements

Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am struck by the many references to women here today, the role they play and the need to recognize the sometimes different and unique needs of women and the opportunities to realize their full roles and potential contributions in our society.

I believe it was Ms. McCauley earlier today who noted that women run everything. I think it is right. If you go in any office of a small community or a large community, the worker bees there that are really keeping things going are the women. I would like to recognize today’s worthy recipients of the Wise Women Awards and thank all the women in the North for the important leadership roles they play in our families, communities and governments.

Mr. Speaker, I am proud today to recognize Carol Morin, a constituent of Weledeh who was honoured last Friday with the National Aboriginal Achievement Award for exceptional achievements in media, communications and the arts. Carol blazed the trail for aboriginal people across the country as the first aboriginal person to anchor a national news broadcast on CBC Newsworld. Over the past 30 years Carol has worked in a number of broadcasting organizations and has received many accolades from across the country. She has helped to make aboriginal people more prominent and visible to the general public in Canada, making it easier for others to follow in her footsteps.

Carol also embraces her culture through the arts and has made significant contributions to the community through her singing, drumming and painting. She plays an indispensable role in the community, inspiring native women to take up drumming in the Northwest Territories. She has also recently received a Canada Council writers’

grant to help with the completion of her first novel entitled Bearskin Diary and the NWT Arts Council writers’ grant for her first stage play entitled The Ruse. Carol has also written a children’s book called Kookum’s Tablecloth, which has been picked up by a printer in Victoria.

Please join me in congratulating Carol for this monumental achievement. A taping of the awards ceremony will be broadcast on APTN and Global in a 90-minute presentation on March 21st . Mahsi.

---Applause

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Congratulations To Carol Morin, Aboriginal Achievement Award Winner

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . The honourable Member for Nunakput , Mr. Jacobson .

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Concerns With Quality Of Repair And Maintenance On Public Housing Stock In Nunakput

Members’ Statements

Jackie Jacobson

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In Nunakput during construction of homes and facilities, nobody seems to inspect various trades and phases of the work. In larger centres there is a large network to ensure customers that the community is receiving safe, adequate and professionally built homes, Mr. Speaker.

I continuously bring up unique challenges in Nunakput, but there seems to be little done. There seems to be a lack of seriousness by this government. Maybe it is because our population is small. Maybe it is because the government feels, in the larger scheme of things, our problems are secondary. But whatever the reason, the government has to start acting in the interest of all Northerners.

In the small communities, people are waiting for so long on the list. Once let into a house, they don’t want to complain to the government of the deficiencies, poor insulation, mould, unsafe carpentry. According to residents, they have never seen or heard of a building inspector visiting. Basically the trades and contractors sign off on a form saying the work is done properly in many local northern communities, who are serious about the North is good enough. About the others, sometimes it is not even worth the paper it is written on.

Mr. Speaker, mould is a serious problem in most of the Northwest Territories communities, but could be prevented by adequate independent inspections when they are done. It is a shame that, given the amount of money the government spends on fuel, home and building construction, we fail to see the value of these monetary measures.

Mr. Speaker, I will have questions for the Minister of the Housing Corporation at the appropriate time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Jacobson . The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Krutko .

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Memorandum Of Understanding Between GNWT And The Gwich’in Tribal Council

Members’ Statements

David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today again speaking of the Gwich’in MOU that was signed between the Government of the Northwest Territories and the Gwich’in Tribal Council. Mr. Speaker, the memorandum of understanding is an agreement that allows the Government of the Northwest Territories and the Gwich’in to work jointly on efforts to improve the economic wellbeing of the people in the Mackenzie Delta. Mr. Speaker, this agreement is just as important as the land claim agreements, since the government would not live up to

Chapter 10 of the agreement or economic measures. Mr. Speaker, it seems like people within the bureaucracy are either ignoring the memorandum of understanding or do not feel that the agreement is still in place.

Mr. Speaker, this agreement is up as of March 31st this year and right now they are presently in the process of renegotiating that agreement. Mr. Speaker, there are contracts in the Gwich’in settlement region which are now still posted in the newspaper in which the Gwich’in are supposed to have an annual meeting with the Government of the Northwest Territories in regards to that agreement in which the government is supposed to come forward, notify what contracts are available in the Gwich’in settlement region within the Gwich’in business community. And yet, Mr. Speaker, it seems like this year, for some reason, that did not happen.

Mr. Speaker, I am still receiving calls from people who have made a best effort to go forward to the government departments, notify that they are interested in negotiating certain contracts, but are being told by people at the front line, well, sorry; we are going to be publicly tendering these contracts. Mr. Speaker, that is not in line with the Gwich’in MOU.

Mr. Speaker, I think it is important that this government, along with the Premier and his Cabinet colleagues, notify people in the field that the Gwich’in MOU is alive and well and will have to be lived up to.

Mr. Speaker, at the appropriate time, I will have questions to the Premier in regards to the Gwich’in

MOU and the contracting policy this government signed on to. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko . The honourable Member for Kam Lake , Mr. Ramsay .

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Concerns Regarding North Slave Correctional Centre

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I would like to address some current issues at North Slave Correctional Centre, which is located in the riding of Kam Lake. I have spoken in the past of the number of inmates located at the facility that are on remand. Some have been there for close to 12 months and I just don’t understand why we are housing inmates on remand for excessive periods of time. It was almost a year ago when I first brought the issue up to the Minister and it doesn’t seem like things are getting any better.

Mr. Speaker, I am also very concerned over the fact that there is not even a small room that could be used as a library at the North Slave Correctional Centre. The government spent close to $50 million on the jail five years ago and to think there’s not even a small library is ridiculous. Inmates should be doing their time, but improving their knowledge and reading skills should be of importance to the Justice department and to our government, so that when they do get out of the centre, they are able to improve their chances at a job and productive lives and not end up back in jail.

Over 400 books recently showed up at our local dump here in Yellowknife and it would appear that having a small library at the centre is not something the government supports or the department supports.

Mr. Speaker, that brings me to my last point and it deals with mental health at the facility. Over the past year, North Slave Correctional Centre has gotten rid of two clinical psychologists and today there are no mental health services on a day-to-day basis at the North Slave Correctional Centre.

Mr. Speaker, it seems like we are short-changing the rehabilitation of inmates at North Slave Correctional Centre. Last year, changes were also made to program delivery at the centre that, to me, again run contrary to what we should be trying to do, and that is give inmates the rehabilitation in programming they need to keep them from reoffending and out of our facilities.

Mr. Speaker, the Minister and staff should avail themselves to the Standing Committee on Social Programs, sooner rather than later, to discuss the issues that I brought up here today and to brief us

on that. Mr. Speaker, I will have questions to the Minister at the appropriate time. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The honourable Member for Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Aboriginal Sport Circle

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the past traditional lifestyle of aboriginal people in the Northwest Territories requires people to be in top physical condition in order to survive and thrive on this land we love so much.

Since then, there has been a dramatic shift away from the lifestyle, resulting in many of the health problems and challenges we face today.

Mr. Speaker, the Aboriginal Sport Circle of the Western Arctic has been leading the way to promote and protect healthy lifestyles for aboriginal people of the NWT, while respecting the individual rights and differences that contribute to the unique northern fabric of this place we call home.

Admission of the Aboriginal Sport Circle of the Western Arctic is to promote and enhance community wellness and culture awareness through sports and recreation. Mr. Speaker, this is exactly what they have been doing in many small communities that we represent. They have been instilling pride in the youth while delivering made-in-the-North programs that fit the unique lifestyle, health situation and challenges that our small communities face.

The Sport Circle believes that sport, recreation and culture leads to better health conditions, social skills and community healing. They have taken up challenges to make a difference. We should do our part to support them. Mr. Speaker, I will have questions for the Minister of MACA at the appropriate time.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Organ Donation Program

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I want to talk about the subject of organ donation in the NWT. I know that we have a small population here in the North and Stanton can’t provide transplant services here, which is very realistic. Everyone realizes that this is a very specialized field and, therefore, more organ harvesting and transplant operations have to take place in Edmonton. However, I assume, like many other people who believe in our health care services, that

we have to access these things and are supported through the medical travel when we try to access transplant processes through Edmonton.

Some Northerners have been donors, Mr. Speaker, and some Northerners have been lucky to be recipients of transplants. What I have come to learn lately is that sound policies and procedures still need to be fully developed in this health care area. Transplants may be rare but stressful for the families going through this headache. Mr. Speaker, there needs to be a process that is supportive from the start to the finish, recognizing the donor’s circumstances and what they’re giving up.

Recently I had the frustrating experience to work with a family, who is a constituent here in Yellowknife, through the living donor of a kidney to another family member. The operation had to take place outside of Yellowknife. The family member from Yellowknife who needed the kidney was on dialysis, so the kidney transplant was clearly a health care necessity. The transplanted kidney makes a huge difference to this person’s life, Mr. Speaker, and it’s given them back quality of life.

Through the whole process, from the consideration of the donor to the transplant to arranging the surgery, the departmental representatives helping them along the way and all the problems and headaches they encountered, Mr. Speaker, the donor at the very end of it after the operation said if they weren’t helping a family member, from the experience they went through they probably wouldn’t have gone through the stress knowing what they know.

Mr. Speaker, the issue I am raising here is there needs to be a stronger, clear policy that helps people going through this process. A medical travel policy seems to be completely silent about helping these kinds of people through this kind of service. From the point of view from the family, it was a struggle to get the department to pay for medical travel for the patient and the donor, as well as for the person to come with them. It was a struggle all the way through dealing with accommodations, as well as the surgery.

Mr. Speaker, I certainly hope the Department of Health and Social Services will work to clear up this process to make this a friendly environment to deal with people who are giving up such a precious gift to help saved loved ones. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Upgrades At Diamond Jenness Secondary School

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My colleagues will recall how many times I have stood up in this House and talked about the condition and the need for upgrading at the Diamond Jenness Secondary School in Hay River. Well, I’m happy to report today that progress is being made.

I do thank my colleagues for their support for a motion that we made on the floor of this House to try to work together to expedite the money and the processes involved in trying to get this project underway as quickly as possible.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank the local district education authority in Hay River who has been working very hard with the Department of Education, Culture and Employment to conclude the program review of what needs to happen in the school and how the renovations or how the program should be reflected in those upgrades.

Mr. Speaker, I’d like to thank the Honourable Jackson Lafferty , Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , for his trips to Hay River and his attention to this pressing need. I would also like to thank the Minister, the Honourable Michael McLeod , as Minister of Public Works and Services , for his attention to this matter and with working with us to bring this project to fruition.

Mr. Speaker, the economy in all of our communities right now is in uncertain times. We have been looking towards a creative way of approaching this project, which would allow many of the benefits to remain in the community, and we have very capable contractors and subcontractors in Hay River. So that is something else that is being discussed. So this could be very much a timely win/win situation not only for the government, but also for the community of Hay River as we move forward on this project.

So, again, my thanks very much to my colleagues, to the DEA in Hay River, to the two Ministers who are responsible for this and to the people who are willing to put some creative thoughts together on how we can see this project potentially accomplished in a more expedited fashion because, Mr. Speaker, the students and the educators at the Diamond Jenness Secondary School deserve no less than a proper place to teach and a proper place to be educated. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Range Lake , Ms. Lee .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have a large contingent of very strong and important women of the North in the gallery. I would like to take a moment to recognize them. First we have two of the five wise women who were recognized earlier today: Ms. Mary Ann Ross from the Beaufort-Delta, from Inuvik.

---Applause

And someone who needs no introduction, the woman warrior, Ms. Cece McCauley from Norman Wells.

---Applause

We also have the president, executive and board members of the Status of Women Council of the NWT, Ms. Dolly Simon, president…

---Applause

…Ms. Su-Ellen Kolback, vice-president…

---Applause

…Tina Marie Gargan from Deh Cho…

---Applause

…Ms. Ethel-Jean Gruben from Beaufort-Delta…

---Applause

…and we have a new executive director of the council, Ms. Lorraine Phaneuf…

---Applause

…Tara Kearsey, community development coordinator…

---Applause

…and Irene Savoy. She’s the office manager.

---Applause

And we also have the ladies from Women in Mining and Oil and Gas Program at the status council, Ms. Annemieke Mulders and Marilyn Hardisty.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee . The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe , Mr. Beaulieu .

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

I’d just like to recognize Therese Dolly Simon, president of the Status of Women Council and a local addictions counsellor in Fort Resolution.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . The honourable Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes , Mr. Robert McLeod .

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

I’d like to recognize two constituents from Inuvik Twin Lakes: Ethel-Jean Gruben and Mary Ann Ross. I’d also like to recognize another constituent from Inuvik Twin Lakes who has been doing the interpreting for the Inuvialuktun. And I’ll slow down a little bit next time, Leonard.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

I’d like to recognize Ms. Marilyn Hardisty working here in Yellowknife and a resident of the Nahendeh riding. As well, if you’ll permit me to congratulate Ruby Jumbo for the Wise Women Award from Trout Lake.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

I, too, would like to congratulate all the ladies for their Wise Women Awards. I’d also like to recognize the woman warrior from the Sahtu, Ms. Cece McCauley. CBC has Don Cherry; the Sahtu has Cece McCauley.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Krutko .

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

It’s an honour to recognize my vice-president of the Gwich’in Tribal Council, Mary Ann Ross. I’d also like to recognize a mentor of mine who got me involved in politics back in 1985, Cece McCauley, when she was chief in Inuvik who I had the honour of serving with as well as a lot of other women chiefs in the Beaufort-Delta region.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko . The honourable Member for Deh Cho , Mr. Michael McLeod .

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

I’d like to congratulate all this year’s award winners for the Wise Women Award. I do want to recognize somebody from my riding, my home town, Tina Gargan, who is joining us here today. I don’t know all the ladies that are here, but there are a couple I would like to recognize: Ethel Gruben, Mary Ann Ross, Cece McCauley, Therese Dolly Simon. Thanks for coming.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Weledeh , Mr. Bromley .

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

I’d also like to recognize Julia Cutter and all the rest of our Pages. I’ve said they’re devils for punishment; they keep coming back and doing a great job here. So thanks to our Pages.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . The honourable Member for Nunakput , Mr. Jacobson .

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Jackie Jacobson

Nunakput

Today I’d like to welcome Ms. Cece McCauley, Ms. Mary Ann Ross, and Ms. Ethel-Jean Gruben to the House.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Jacobson . The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

I would like to make a special recognition of Cece McCauley here today. On days when Member’s think I’m giving them a hard time, I’d just like them to think about what their life would be like if Cece was here.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . I’d like to welcome everyone in the gallery today. I hope you’re enjoying the proceedings. It’s always nice to have an audience in here. Item 6, acknowledgements. Item 7, oral questions. The honourable Member for Great Slave , Mr. Abernethy .

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Question 281-16(3): Status Of Gender-Based Analysis

Oral Questions

Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are for the Premier and they’re in follow-up to my Member’s statement on gender-based analysis. I was wondering if the Premier could tell me the status of gender-based analysis within the GNWT, specifically if that policy is currently being developed.

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Question 281-16(3): Status Of Gender-Based Analysis

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . The honourable Premier , Mr. Roland .

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Question 281-16(3): Status Of Gender-Based Analysis

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Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Premier

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the Member for that question. The gender-based analysis process is underway. We are working within Executive to come up with a position paper and hopefully have that out sometime during the spring.

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

I know there are a number of organizations out there that have already done a significant amount of research on gender-based analysis. I was wondering if the team currently working on the gender-based analysis, if the Premier or his staff have directed them to get in touch with individuals who are currently working on gender-based analysis like the Status of Women.

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Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Premier

Our process is first to get a position paper developed. We have from within the Executive branch, as well as Human Resources and a women’s advisor unit within the Executive helping us put this together and working on some training materials as well.

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Premier . I was wondering if you could give me a bit of a timeline on when you think we might be able to see something on gender-based analysis within the GNWT.

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Question 281-16(3): Status Of Gender-Based Analysis

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Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Premier

As I had said earlier, we are hoping to have a position paper developed by this spring, working on training documents and a training

schedule for implementation during this upcoming fiscal year. I’ll have to get back to the department as to further timing. I can pass that information on to Members.

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Question 281-16(3): Status Of Gender-Based Analysis

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland . Final supplementary, Mr. Abernethy . Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Question 282-16(3): Organ Donation Program

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In my Member’s statement today I talked about the stress a specific family went through when they wanted to go through the Organ Donation Program and the fact that they had felt from start to finish that there wasn’t support or clear guidelines. I’m wondering if the Minister of Health and Social Services can talk to us today and explain what the medical travel assistance for living donors is out there for and how people become eligible for a smooth transition from start to finish when they want to help a loved one through the Organ Donation Program.

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Question 282-16(3): Organ Donation Program

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . The honourable Minister responsible for Health and Social Services , Ms. Lee .

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Question 282-16(3): Organ Donation Program

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe that the department and the staff in the system did provide assistance in this regard. I do recall that there were some hiccups in the process, but I just cannot recall all the details. I will undertake to review that file again and work with the Member to see if there’s anything to iron out there. As I recall, I do believe that both parties of the procedure were provided with support.

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Question 282-16(3): Organ Donation Program

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

I’m really grateful that the Minister acknowledged that there were hiccups and I guess that’s really what the point is here today, to talk about trying to find ways for clear policies from start to finish. It’s not about focusing blame, rather about trying to find new ways to do business better for our loved ones.

I’ll take the Minister up on her offer, but I’ll ask if she will also investigate this problem from the point of view of developing both a policy and strategy so that when we have Northerners who want to donate organs, whether it’s through the living organ transplant process or if that’s one of their last

wishes, that the Department of Health and Social Services will come up with a clear policy and make sure it’s publicized so people know how to access the process and get through it during that stressful time.

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Question 282-16(3): Organ Donation Program

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

When I said hiccups I believe it might have had to do with because in our system delivery there are people who receive benefits through insured health services or their employers. I think in this situation we did eventually provide financial support for medical travel and all the other related support, so I will look into that to see how it worked out.

This is not something, organ transplant is not something that’s done regularly or on a frequent basis in the Territories. We do them when we can, but most of our organ donors or transplants are done in southern jurisdictions. I’m not sure if there’s a volume of work to do a policy work on that, but I will undertake to see, review this file that the Member is referring to and get back to the Member.

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Question 282-16(3): Organ Donation Program

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

I’ll take the Minister up on that commitment as well. I guess the problem really goes down to the fact that we had a doctor’s letter suggesting that they needed a family member for the escort. They were denied initially on that. They were denied about staying in Edmonton because they had follow-up care. Then, furthermore, they had to justify why, when you cut them in half and take out a kidney, that they had to stay there a couple days to be able to go for a follow-up. That didn’t need to be explained.

I think a clear, simple policy understanding the complexity of this, as well as a bit of flexibility now and that we don’t have to review every single one of these, would help us a long way. Clearly, could I get a commitment on the record here from the Minister that she’ll investigate this problem, which she has already said she’ll do, but in light of the fact that there’s no clear policy in a supportive context would she work to develop a strategy that does so?

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Question 282-16(3): Organ Donation Program

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

I think it’s important to point out that the GNWT has very comprehensive and generous programming on medical escorts. We do run into problems where there’s some question about whether somebody needs an escort for medical reasons. We provide medical escort service to somebody who is older than 60. It’s there. I do believe that at the end of the day for this particular situation we did provide medical travel escort in that regard. I think there was a question about paying for accommodation and per diem or something like that. I will look into that. But we do have, if they qualify for medical escort, they would have been provided for that, and I believe they were.

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Question 282-16(3): Organ Donation Program

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee . Final supplementary, Mr. Hawkins .

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Question 282-16(3): Organ Donation Program

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wasn’t going to go to this level of detail, but the doctor who signed the necessary letter to recommend that the person goes and gives the kidney stated the name in the letter saying this is the medical escort they require, which happened to be their spouse. That spouse was denied even though it was either the number one or number two doctor in the Northwest Territories, but they were still denied on their first recommendation. They were denied their accommodation, secondly, and their per diems. Those are the complexities. I didn’t want to go into that detail.

I’m just saying to the Minister, would she agree to take some strategic point of view to say how can we set up a strategy and go forward with a policy that has enough framework that we can work through these problems so we don’t have to bring them here?

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Question 282-16(3): Organ Donation Program

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

My point is that we would provide a medical escort to that sort of situation and we do in other situations as well. In this case, the problem was with who was paying for the medical escort. We have residents in the North who are eligible to get coverage from elsewhere, whether it’s through NIHB or if they have another employer, spouse employer who has benefits, they have to go through that first before we would pay for it. I believe that was the issue. That was sorted out. I will confirm that with the Member.

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Question 282-16(3): Organ Donation Program

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee . The honourable Member for Nunakput , Mr. Jacobson .

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Question 283-16(3): Construction Standards And Inspections For Public Housing

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Jackie Jacobson

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. For my Member’s statement today, it was the quality of construction in the small communities of housing units. Will this government ensure the policies and rules and regulations are implemented and enforced so all home buildings, especially in small, isolated communities, are adequately inspected?

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Question 283-16(3): Construction Standards And Inspections For Public Housing

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Jacobson . The honourable Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation , Mr. Michael McLeod .

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Question 283-16(3): Construction Standards And Inspections For Public Housing

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I guess the short answer is yes. We are obligated to construct our houses in an efficient and very safe manner. There are codes we are required to follow and we intend to have that practice. It’s something that’s been a challenge for some while now and we are certainly stepping up the requirements. There are checkpoints and we will ensure that happens.

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Question 283-16(3): Construction Standards And Inspections For Public Housing

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Jackie Jacobson

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Minister. I always like hearing you say yes. What is the government going to do to fix the problems with deficiencies caused by lack of inspections in the communities, such as mould and poor quality of construction?

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Question 283-16(3): Construction Standards And Inspections For Public Housing

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

We have embarked on a training program for all our technical staff to get training in a number of different areas including mould, and being able to provide advice to some of our tenants in the units who are facing these challenges. We are also training our staff to be a lot more efficient in the areas of home energy evaluations and being able to provide advice in that area. We are also doing inspections all across the NWT with our public housing units and are working with a number of private homeowners and have expanded our programs in both those areas to allow us to do more.

Given that we’ve had additional investment from the federal government, that has helped us a long ways. We certainly expect to see the results demonstrated as we do our 2009 core need assessment.

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Question 283-16(3): Construction Standards And Inspections For Public Housing

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Weledeh , Mr. Bromley .

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Question 284-16(3): Assessment Of Infrared Energy Technology

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Public Works and Services . I’m wondering, I’ve read material that indicates the infrared surveys have been done on quite a number of buildings throughout the Northwest Territories. A lot of cost associated with that, travelling and so on. Given that a building is best assessed, at least to start with, by just simply writing a letter or phoning and getting the information on what the energy bills are for heat and power, I’m wondering what the cost of the infrared program is.

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Question 284-16(3): Assessment Of Infrared Energy Technology

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . The honourable Minister responsible for Public Works and Services , Mr. Michael McLeod .

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Question 284-16(3): Assessment Of Infrared Energy Technology

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Mr. Speaker, I’d have to commit to go and find out what it costs to do an assessment of an infrared type of evaluation on a unit. We have, through Public Works and through our budgets for the last couple years now, been focusing on deferred maintenance and projects in that area. We intend to do the bulk of our facilities, go through an evaluation to see how efficient they are. I’d have to commit to the Member to get back to see what is all involved in each part of this technical evaluation and what it would cost and

whether just making a phone call would serve the purpose.

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Question 284-16(3): Assessment Of Infrared Energy Technology

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

I appreciate the Minister’s comments. It’s been an issue that’s been raised. We’re looking for efficiencies; i.e. reduced costs and better effectiveness. My understanding is that by simply calling the Power Corporation and other providers that we either own or have at arm’s length, we can find out what the costs are. I’m wondering if the Minister could provide the sequence of events to assure my constituents and the public that in fact the basic common sense measures for a building are applied first.

That is, we find out what the power and heating costs are per month or year before we go in with fancy and, I admit, sexy technology, but very costly technology as I understand it, travelling from community to community of the infrared approach.

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Question 284-16(3): Assessment Of Infrared Energy Technology

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

I am not trained in this area. I have not gone through the outline of what is all involved in a technical evaluation. I’ll commit to getting back to the Member with a layout of all the steps involved as he requested.

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Question 284-16(3): Assessment Of Infrared Energy Technology

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Just one last note. I’m certainly not trained in it either, although I have had some experience. I know the community of Whati simply did that for all their buildings. My understanding is, just for the information of the Minister, that the infrared technology can give erroneous results if it’s a windy day, for example, and so on. Perhaps I could ask the Minister if he would check out both the strengths and weaknesses of the infrared technology so that we have full information on which to base decision-making and become more efficient and effective.

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

I certainly can commit to doing that. We’ll also provide the Member a number of the documents and standards that we utilize to base our investment on and what buildings qualify. We’ll also provide the list that we have already compiled of the buildings that we have evaluated and the facilities that we intend to do upgrades to and have that for the Member’s information.

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Question 284-16(3): Assessment Of Infrared Energy Technology

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final supplementary, Mr. Bromley .

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Question 284-16(3): Assessment Of Infrared Energy Technology

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Again, I appreciate that. If the Minister could just include what the pros and cons are of the infrared technology so that I know that the department’s looked at that, that would be great.

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Yes, we’ll commit to doing that.

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Question 284-16(3): Assessment Of Infrared Energy Technology

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Kam Lake , Mr. Ramsay .

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Question 285-16(3): Concerns Regarding North Slave Correctional Centre

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Getting back to my Member’s statement from earlier today I have some questions for the Minister of Justice . I guess some of the things that are causing me a great deal of concern here in the past little while are at North Slave Correctional Centre. There are no day-to-day mental health services. It looks like there’s no library. As I mentioned, there are 400 books that showed up at the dump. There’s also been a reduction in program delivery staff.

I’d like to get a commitment from the Minister today that rehabilitation is something that the Department of Justice and the staff at North Slave Correctional Centre care about. I’d like to ask the Minister what they’re doing to rehabilitate inmates at North Slave Correctional Centre.

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Question 285-16(3): Concerns Regarding North Slave Correctional Centre

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The honourable Minister responsible for Justice , Mr. Lafferty .

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Question 285-16(3): Concerns Regarding North Slave Correctional Centre

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Jackson Lafferty

Minister of Justice

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate the Member’s questions in this specific area. This is one of the priorities that we have at North Slave Correctional Centre, that in order to rehabilitate the individuals to the communities, we need to give them opportunities. There are all kinds of programs that are offered to them once they enter the facility and upon their departure. We do have various programs, such as family violence, sex offenders, substance abuse, pre-trades, and other key areas where we do have classrooms and we do have a resource room, as well, with education materials.

They have the opportunity with a teacher as well. So we do provide as much as we can in this area. There are also aboriginal programs specifically for reintegrating into aboriginal communities. Those are the areas we focus on. Every now and then we do improvements to our programs.

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Question 285-16(3): Concerns Regarding North Slave Correctional Centre

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Considering the fact that the government spent close to $50 million on this facility and there was a library -- there was a small library in there until recently -- I’m just wondering why the decision would be made by the centre to throw these books out and turn that little library into an office. What was the rationale behind that?

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Question 285-16(3): Concerns Regarding North Slave Correctional Centre

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Jackson Lafferty

Minister of Justice

The books that the Member is referring to that we threw out, those books are outdated. They’re older books that have been passed down from the library and old inventory from YCC days. Also it’s been passed on through first hand, second hand, and third hand. Even back in the ‘70s, books. They were donated to the North Slave Correctional Centre when the Boy Scouts Book Store was closed years ago. These

are old books that refer to travel and self-help guides. They are all mildewed and damaged books. Those are the books the Member is referring to. We tried to give them to other organizations, but they’re so outdated that nobody wanted them. We had to discard those books at that time.

With respect to the library, we do have a classroom and education programs within the facility. So we continue to provide the educational programs to all inmates if they’re interested in upgrading their skills.

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Question 285-16(3): Concerns Regarding North Slave Correctional Centre

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

The books that I viewed on the front page of the News North today looked like they were in pretty good condition. Getting back to the mental health services located at the North Slave Correctional Centre, there’s no library there and to me a library is a big part of the mental health of inmates incarcerated at that facility, and they should have a quiet place to go and read and a place to look at books. Also, this lack of a day-to-day mental health expert or position at North Slave Correctional Centre, I’d like to ask the Minister what the department’s outlook is on trying to get somebody in there on a full-time basis to address the mental health concerns at that centre.

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Question 285-16(3): Concerns Regarding North Slave Correctional Centre

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Jackson Lafferty

Minister of Justice

Certainly that’s one of our long-term goals to deal with mental health on a permanent basis. Right now we have a psychologist on a contract basis and as-needed basis. So we do provide the service to the inmates and will continue to provide the services. It is a need in this facility. On the long-term plans, we’ll deal with that matter on a full-time basis.

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Question 285-16(3): Concerns Regarding North Slave Correctional Centre

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Final supplementary, Mr. Ramsay .

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Question 285-16(3): Concerns Regarding North Slave Correctional Centre

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Considering the government and the department is going to do away with smoking at North Slave Correctional Centre effective April 1st , I would

suggest that they’re going to need somebody there, on the ground, on a day-to-day basis, not somebody on a contract to deal with mental health issues at that facility. I’d like to ask the Minister when there is going to be a full-time clinical psychologist in place at the North Slave Correctional Centre.

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Question 285-16(3): Concerns Regarding North Slave Correctional Centre

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Jackson Lafferty

Minister of Justice

We have just gone through the stages of hiring a contractor just a few months ago. Certainly it is all preliminary at this point, but certainly this will be part of the discussion on a going-forward basis during our business planning process. We need to get more detailed information on how we can go about this and to hire a full-time mental health provider in that area.

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Question 285-16(3): Concerns Regarding North Slave Correctional Centre

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . The honourable Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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Question 286-16(3): Funding For NWT Team For Canada Summer Games

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to address my questions today to the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs . I’d like to follow up on some questions that were raised last week by Mr. Bromley and myself in regards to the Canada Summer Games.

The Minister should be aware that there are a number of costs. I think anybody who is involved in athletics and goes to any kind of games is aware that there are travel costs for athletes, coaches, and mission staff, there are team uniform costs, there are walking out uniform costs and so on and so on. I’d like to ask the Minister how the NWT contingent who is going to PEI for the Canada Summer Games in August this summer will be funded.

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Question 286-16(3): Funding For NWT Team For Canada Summer Games

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . The honourable Minister responsible for Municipal and Community Affairs , Mr. Robert McLeod .

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Question 286-16(3): Funding For NWT Team For Canada Summer Games

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

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Question 286-16(3): Funding For NWT Team For Canada Summer Games

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thanks to the Minister for that response. I guess that leaves...Travel costs are covered. That’s good. That is what I had expected. So at least the federal government is keeping up with some part of their funding agreements from previous years. But if Sport North and the Sport and Recreation Council are acting as managers and providing the funding for the rest of the costs that are involved, I’d like to know from the Minister how and when do these dollars get to either Sport North or the SRC for them to get the work done.

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Question 286-16(3): Funding For NWT Team For Canada Summer Games

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

As I said, they’re trying to work out the details right now as to the cost and as soon as they come up with a cost for our participation or the NWT’s share of it, then they will put a request in to MACA and we will see if we can identify the funding. So we’re hoping to try and have that done as quickly as possible, because we know the games are this August. We’re hoping to have the money identified as quickly as possible.

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Question 286-16(3): Funding For NWT Team For Canada Summer Games

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thanks again to the Minister. I guess I’d like to follow up from the Minister’s statement that the details are being worked out and that’s good. We do need to have details worked out. But when the funds have been identified which

are required and when the details have been worked out, what kind of an agreement is going to be in place between the Government of the Northwest Territories and either Sport North or the SRC? Is it going to be an agreement that is signed by both parties?

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Question 286-16(3): Funding For NWT Team For Canada Summer Games

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

MACA is working with the NWT Sport and Recreation Council because they are the governance council for sport in the Northwest Territories. We’re going to establish a written arrangement on the 2009 Canada Summer Games.

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Question 286-16(3): Funding For NWT Team For Canada Summer Games

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final supplementary, Ms. Bisaro .

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Question 286-16(3): Funding For NWT Team For Canada Summer Games

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I guess I would just like to ask the Minister a nice, easy question. That’s whether or not there should be any concern on the part of any of the athletes who are currently training to go to the Canada Summer Games this summer whether or not they will not be going. Thank you.

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Question 286-16(3): Funding For NWT Team For Canada Summer Games

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, I’ve been up answering questions on the Canada Summer Games two or three times now and I think I’ve said each and every time that if there are athletes out there that are training or getting ready for the games, I would advise them not to worry. It is my intent to try and get Team NWT...Not my intent, it’s the sport and governing body’s intent to try and get a team. I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again; we will be at the Canada Summer Games in Prince Edward Island. Thank you.

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Question 286-16(3): Funding For NWT Team For Canada Summer Games

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Question 287-16(3): Review Of Income Threshold Limit For Homeownership Program

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you very, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to ask my questions of the Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation . The other week we had a big debate over housing. It was about turning the ECE programming back to the Housing Corporation. But also, more importantly, Mr. Speaker, as in my Member’s statement, the most important thing, I believe, is for our Housing Corporation to deliver housing to our people.

This income threshold limit that I spoke about in my Member’s statement is becoming quite a barrier. The threshold is so tight between the low income and the high income that no one is being approved at all. Consequently, we have many, many empty houses in our communities. Also, throughout our debate I think we mentioned and we spoke with the

Minister about his willingness to look at that guideline, to look at that policy and to see if it can be changed as soon as possible. I’m hoping that the commitment is there that he can do something by April 1st , Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Question 287-16(3): Review Of Income Threshold Limit For Homeownership Program

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . The honourable Minister responsible for the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation, Mr. Michael McLeod .

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Question 287-16(3): Review Of Income Threshold Limit For Homeownership Program

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Indeed, Housing Corporation issues of housing challenges certainly have been receiving a lot of attention in the last while and we’ve been working very hard to bring some changes forward in our programs. We are looking at doing a review of our Housing Choices program criteria. The evaluation has already started. We are looking at the thresholds that the Member has raised; other Members have also brought that to my attention. We’ve also had some discussion on this issue at our small communities committee meeting. It’s an area that we already committed to looking at redrafting.

We are putting that together. I’m hoping that we will have something for committee’s consideration fairly soon. I’m not sure if I can meet the April 1st deadline, but I will certainly work

towards something for the committee’s consideration sometime in April. Thank you.

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Question 287-16(3): Review Of Income Threshold Limit For Homeownership Program

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Also, I’m aware that the Housing Corporation does have some extra capital dollars. But the intent here is to ask the Minister that, look, we’ve got people out there that want housing, they’ve got the money to do it, they’ve got steady income, they’re hard workers, and yet they are prevented from accessing our housing programs. I’d like to know if the Minister will seriously consider changing the community income threshold limit and allow our people, the hardworking people out there, to access our housing programs. Thank you.

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Mr. Speaker, that’s certainly my intention to bring something forward for committee’s consideration. We are already looking at drafts of new calculations that we think could work in the communities. I have not had the opportunity to compile all the information yet and bring it to committee, but that’s something I’d like to do fairly quick. As I indicated earlier, I would be pleased to bring it forward sometime in April after my Cabinet colleagues have had a chance to also look at it. Thank you.

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

The key about me mentioning April 1st is that that’s one of the programming

deadlines for existing programs. I just didn’t want people out there that already got rejection letters because they exceeded the threshold limit, that they’re not eligible for any programming after April

1st . The key here is to ask the Minister, look, there

are people out there that have been rejected already and if you’re going to change your parameters, we have to act quickly or even somehow give them public notice or a heads-up that this government is willing to help our people. Mahsi.

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Question 287-16(3): Review Of Income Threshold Limit For Homeownership Program

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Mr. Speaker, we will take every precaution not to have that happen. The applications are still currently coming in and being evaluated. We intend to make a number of changes as indicated earlier. Thresholds are one of them, but we are also looking at the amount that we provide in terms of a forgivable mortgage and we’d like to make some changes in that area. There is also the discussion that needs to take place with the transfer and how this study is going to be conducted. We’d like to present the terms of reference and the framework for that whole initiative also.

We have a fairly long list of all the different areas that need to be discussed with the Members as to what we’re proposing to bring forward as next steps. I want to assure all the Members, though, that the program and the changes will be, providing everything’s approved, in place for this year’s housing program. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final supplementary, Mr. Menicoche .

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Question 287-16(3): Review Of Income Threshold Limit For Homeownership Program

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Allowing this change of income threshold will be good news for the government there, Mr. Speaker. I urge the Minister to seriously consider then, as soon as possible, because this allows a whole range of people with the higher incomes to access our programming and to become mortgage payers, and that’s the kind of revenue the Housing Corporation is looking for, Mr. Speaker. Once again, I ask the Minister to seriously consider implementing this change as soon as possible. Thank you.

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Question 287-16(3): Review Of Income Threshold Limit For Homeownership Program

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

We certainly think it would be good news. There has been a lot of discussion on this front about the criteria set for the Housing Choices programs being a little bit too restrictive. It has been criticized as programs that a lot of our people can’t access. We’re hoping by making some changes, tweaking it so that it’s more accessible, this will help as we deliver our new programs. Thank you.

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Question 287-16(3): Review Of Income Threshold Limit For Homeownership Program

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Krutko .

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Question 288-16(3): Memorandum Of Understanding Between GNWT And The Gwich’in Tribal Council

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is directed to the Premier and is in regard to the memorandum of understanding in regard to the contracts in the Gwich’in settlement region which was signed between the Government of the Northwest Territories and the Gwich’in Tribal Council, and then- Premier Kakfwi and the president Fred Carmichael, in January 2003. The term of the contract is until March 31 of this fiscal year.

I’d like to ask the Premier , the objective of the memorandum of understanding is basically to establish a process towards improving the participation of Gwich’in businesses and GNWT contracts within the Gwich’in settlement area. Mr. Speaker, there have been a lot of changes taking place in regard to the contracting process even here in this House. Going into a fall budget cycle for capital and with that it also has an effect on the agreement. Yet, Mr. Speaker, there are still people out there, especially in the public service, who do not seem to understand there is this agreement in place. Yet, Mr.

Speaker, a lot of contractors are being undermined by way of allowing them the opportunity to participate in these government contracts, as we can see by the situation we have in Inuvik.

I’d like to ask the Premier , exactly how stringent does the government take the Gwich’in MOU when it comes to contracts in Gwich’in settlement areas in regard to what is being told to the departments when it comes to this agreement?

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Question 288-16(3): Memorandum Of Understanding Between GNWT And The Gwich’in Tribal Council

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko . The honourable Premier , Mr. Roland .

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Question 288-16(3): Memorandum Of Understanding Between GNWT And The Gwich’in Tribal Council

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Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Premier

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The MOU is one that is under the responsibility of the Minister of ITI . He’s been working on that with the department in this area. It is under renewable. The negotiation process is ongoing, but the existing one remains in place and is working through its system. With the change in our infrastructure program, that list of projects goes out in the fall now and work with the department again on looking at some of that selection of potential projects. Now those projects, again, could be selected requests for negotiated contracts or if they win it through a tender or RFP process, that falls under the accounting of that program. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 288-16(3): Memorandum Of Understanding Between GNWT And The Gwich’in Tribal Council

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The agreement also calls for at least two meetings a year in which there is supposed to be a meeting held at least 90 days prior to the end of the GNWT

fiscal year. I’d like to ask the Premier , why has there not been a meeting as it’s spelled out in the memorandum of understanding?

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Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Premier

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In fact, when we were looking at setting up our meetings in the Beaufort-Delta, both with the Inuvialuit and then with the Gwich’in leaders, the request came down to postpone the meeting on the MOU and Minister Bob McLeod did not make those meetings on that basis. Thank you.

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Question 288-16(3): Memorandum Of Understanding Between GNWT And The Gwich’in Tribal Council

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, I as an MLA and also leaders in my communities have signed agreements supporting contracts in my settlement region in regard to the Gwich’in settlement region in my communities, but yet contractors have nothing back from this government. And yet, we approved the budget. We are basically moving forward. Most of the capital items were approved last fall. Exactly why is it that there is no movement in regards to these negotiated contracts which have received the support letters they need from the public bodies in the communities from the band, the hamlet council and myself? Why is it that we are not getting a response back from Cabinet on these letters?

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