Debates of May 29th, 2012

This is page numbers 649 - 700 of the Hansard for the 17th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was education .

Topics

Oral Questions

Members Present

Prayer

Minister’s Statement 8-17(3): Support For Arts And Fine Crafts

Minister’s Statement 9-17(3): Education Hall Of Fame – May 29, 2012

Minister’s Statement 10-17(3): Minister Absent From The House

Business Incentive Policy

Authentic Northern Souvenirs

Need For Full-Time Nurse In Tsiigehtchic

Bison And Highway Safety Issues

NWT Fishermen’s Federation And NWT Fishing Industry

Need For New Schools In Trout Lake And Nahanni Butte

Future Of NWT Resource Management

Municipal Tax Exemption For Senior Citizens And Disabled Persons

Regulations Pertaining To The Cosmetic Tanning Industry

Managing The Sport Fishing Industry

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Margaret Thom – Education Hall Of Fame Inductee

Evaluating Contracts And Business Incentive Policy

Promotion Of Authentic Northern Tourism Products

New School Construction In Small Communities

Commercial Fishing Industry

Need For Full-Time Nurse In Tsiigehtchic

Contract Evaluation And Business Incentive Policy

Bison And Highway Safety Issues

Sport Fishing And Land Use Plan In Fort Providence Area

Resource Management Negotiations With Federal Government

Reintegration Program For Inmates Returning To Small Communities

Risks Associated With Indoor Tanning

Implementation Of Business Incentive Policy

Written Question 2-17(3): Negotiated, Sole-Source Or Similar Contracts

Tabled Document 9-17(3): Technical Report – Analysis Of Federal Bill C-10, Safe Streets And Communities Act: Impacts On The NWT Department Of Justice

Tabled Document 10-17(3): Agriculture Products Marketing Council 2011-12 Annual Report

Extended Adjournment Of The House To June 4, 2012

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Elimination Of Social Passing

Recorded Vote

Report of Committee of the Whole

Orders of the Day

The House met at 1:29 p.m.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Mr. Hawkins .

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wanted to quickly rise today and make note regarding yesterday’s debate. When you interjected yesterday, I should have sat down and not commented further, a rule I know, and know well.

I wanted to take this chance because I’d reflected upon it yesterday afternoon, approached you last night to talk you about my error and I wanted to make note on the official record. I want to thank you for your guidance and your ear last night on this particular issue and I appreciate your leadership in the House. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . Item 2, Ministers’ statements. The honourable Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment , Mr. Ramsay .

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Minister’s Statement 8-17(3): Support For Arts And Fine Crafts

Ministers’ Statements

Kam Lake

David Ramsay

Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. NWT artisans and filmmakers make a positive economic and cultural impact on our territory and today I would like to highlight some initiatives to support and grow the arts, crafts and film sectors.

Through the office of the film commissioner, the Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment has been working closely with the NWT film industry over the past year. Last year the GNWT met with film and media arts representatives for a review of the territorial film industry. They identified the need for a fully interactive and information rich website to promote filming and film industry services here in the NWT.

ITI has now developed this website in collaboration with the newly formed NWT Professional Media Association. I am pleased to say the finishing touches are being put on the site, so to speak, and we are planning its launch in the next few weeks. This site will be a go-to resource for the film

industry, both inside and outside of the Northwest Territories.

Not only will it promote the NWT as a filming destination and provide production companies with information on filming here, it will also promote the local film and media arts industries by showcasing their credentials through a film suppliers guide. This guide also contains listings of local businesses that provide specific areas of expertise, products and services to assist film productions on location here in the NWT.

Local filmmakers can also check the site for information or other resources such as funding programs.

We know better than anyone that there are talented filmmakers at work throughout the Northwest Territories. I would like to take this opportunity to recognize and congratulate Mr. Andrew Silke, who’s short film, “Amelia,” was selected to screen at the prestigious Cannes Film Festival in France. Everyone in the cast and crew was from the Northwest Territories and production was filmed here.

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Providing support to the arts and the film industry is a joint effort between ITI and the Department of Education, Culture and Employment. ITI provides support for NWT businesses, including those involved in film production through its Support to Entrepreneurs and Economic Development Policy. I’m pleased to say that the department funded a significant portion of Mr. Silke’s travel costs to attend the Cannes Film Festival where he is today. ECE provides support to the film industry through the NWT Arts Council and northern film and media arts contributions programs and also made a funding contribution to support this project.

The last time this Assembly met in February, I committed to reviewing the idea of developing a diamond jewellery skills program for local artists. ITI is looking into options for developing a jewellery workshop or something very similar to that. The workshop would be built upon local artistic talents and provide a new skill set for NWT artists who are interested in using raw and processed materials in the NWT.

It could also help to raise the profile of locally made jewellery products. Focusing on small-scale opportunities to support the local arts sector is an important element to support this sector.

ITI invests nearly $1 million annually into the arts and crafts sector. Of this amount, approximately $600,000 is under the Support for Entrepreneurs and Economic Development Policy. Through the policy, funds are distributed to over 150 artists and community groups hosting art festivals throughout the NWT. The remaining funds are geared towards promoting and supporting NWT artists in various ways through the NWT artists database, the Arts Branding Logo Program, community workshops and other arts promotions.

Mr. Speaker, we all want an economy that is diversified and provides all communities and regions with opportunities and choices. Supporting programming for the NWT film industry and the arts and crafts sector is one way to maximize opportunities and support economic diversification of the NWT, a key goal of this Assembly. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister’s Statement 8-17(3): Support For Arts And Fine Crafts

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Lafferty .

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Minister’s Statement 9-17(3): Education Hall Of Fame – May 29, 2012

Ministers’ Statements

Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I’m pleased to advise this House that a ceremony was held today to celebrate the tremendous contributions that people across the territory have made to education.

The Department of Education, Culture and Employment allows the Education Hall of Fame to recognize that we all play an important role supporting the education of our children. It reflects the valuable contributions that educators, volunteers, board members, administrators and other community members make.

Mr. Speaker, for this year’s celebration, nominations poured in from every region and seven people were chosen from across the territory. The 2012 inductees embody the commitment, diligence, creativity and passion that we want education to inspire in us all.

The first inductee is Helen Kitekudlak from Ulukhaktok. She began teaching over 40 years ago as a teenager. She believes in making a positive and lasting impression on her students and in working with each student’s strength to help them learn.

Ms. Betty Barnaby from Fort Good Hope recently received her Bachelor of Education degree from Aurora College. Throughout her 20-year career, she has always believed in the power of education and instils that belief in her community.

Ms. Margaret Thom of Fort Providence has spent more than 20 years as a school community counsellor, teaching students and staff traditional values at Deh Gah School.

Mr. Kevin Atoniak of Fort Smith spent 30 years as an instructor for Aurora College’s Environment and Natural Resources Technology Program. His efforts have seen approximately 200 graduates and have provided the Department of Environment and Natural Resources with 20 percent of its entire workforce.

Ms. Chris Baron from Behchoko has spent 25 years teaching kindergarten to Grade 5 in the Tlicho region. A strong advocate for literacy, she strives to teach every child to be the best that they can be and to appreciate their own cultural identity.

Mrs. Angela James of Yellowknife began her teaching career more than 20 years ago, holding positions as teacher, principal and now director of early childhood and school services and has been a driving force for Dene culture in education throughout her career.

Throughout his 24-year career, Dr. Curtis Brown has been a strong advocate for alternative programming and expanded opportunities for students. His efforts while serving as principal at Chief Jimmy Bruneau School received national attention and the school was heralded as “the school where students are dropping back in.”

Of these distinguished people, some are with us today in the gallery.

Mr. Speaker, this is our third group of inductees into the Education Hall of Fame. They are truly passionate people who inspire us to do more, be better and believe in ourselves.

Building on the strengths of Northerners is one of the goals of this Assembly and I hope all Members of this Assembly will join me in honouring the inductees into the Education Hall of Fame and thank them for dedicating their life’s work to the students of the Northwest Territories. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister’s Statement 9-17(3): Education Hall Of Fame – May 29, 2012

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Deputy Premier , Mr. Lafferty .

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Minister’s Statement 10-17(3): Minister Absent From The House

Ministers’ Statements

Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, I wish to advise Members that the Honourable Robert C. McLeod will be absent from the House for a portion of today’s proceedings to participate in a multilateral conference call regarding the long-term plan for public infrastructure. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister’s Statement 10-17(3): Minister Absent From The House

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Item 3, Members’ statements. The honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake , Mr. Moses .

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Business Incentive Policy

Members’ Statements

Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When I got elected into the House here and during my campaign I told everybody that I would bring each and every issue to this table, whether it was personal, whether it was government, to get the right and appropriate answers that needed to be addressed.

For the last two months I’ve been dealing with a certain individual in Inuvik who has been having problems with this government, who was actually employed by this government at one time as a contractor. Last week we heard a lot of questions and concerns in regard to contracting and this one takes the cake.

We had a local contractor in Inuvik who just recently lost a contract to a southern company through the BIP process, the Business Incentive Policy. He is now unemployed. All his staff are unemployed.

Now he’s looking to find answers. He’s not looking for retribution. He wants answers. He wants answers on how he as a local contractor can lose the contract to a southern company when in fact this government had called him during the process and told him that he had won the contract, only to find out a few days later that he had in fact lost it. It was confusing to him. He didn’t know what was going on. He found out that he lost it during the BIP process and the awarding of that.

This government needs to be more transparent, something that it preaches a lot, and it needs to be fairer, something that it preaches on a daily basis. I’m not seeing this happen.

Over the last two months I’ve been really working to try to find answers for this contractor in Inuvik who is also a very good volunteer not only for Inuvik but for the Northwest Territories. While I was asking questions, I got moved from one department to another department, only to go to a third department who told me to go back to the first department, second. It was a very long process and was very confusing for myself, which made it more confusing for this individual.

Myself and this individual are going to work really hard to make sure that we do find the answers to this situation and how a local contractor, a person who’s going to get an award from this government for the good work that he does throughout the Northwest Territories. This is not over. We’ll take this as far as we need to take it to find the answers that we need so that other small contractors throughout the North don’t go through the same process.

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Business Incentive Policy

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Moses . The honourable Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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Authentic Northern Souvenirs

Members’ Statements

Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We’re all very proud of our NWT artisans; artists of many different mediums, designers, craftspersons. Certainly the Minister of ITI uses any opportunity he can to promote our arts and crafts industry to the world. We had a lovely example of that earlier today.

As the agent of the GNWT who promotes tourism for us, the organization NWT Tourism should also be promoting and supporting NWT artists and craftspersons. It would seem logical that they would use their website to do that promotion.

After I was contacted by a constituent on this issue, I took a look at the NWT Tourism website and perused the “authentic NWT souvenir items” on display there. The items are few but what is most disconcerting is that none of them seem to be from or made in the NWT. One can buy licence plates, luggage tags, pins and maps. They look great. Wonderful northern scenes, but they can hardly be called authentic northern souvenirs. Where are the products made by NWT residents? Where are the products from NWT shops and NWT businesses? None to be found on that website.

Why are we not promoting products from community craft stores, from our resident photographers, from our musicians, from our painters, from our carvers, from our arts and craftspeople, from our authors? We’ve talked often enough about the need to boost our economy to diversify our economy. This would seem to me to be a great way to do it but we are not.

NWT Tourism should be acting as a broker or promoter for any NWT resident or business making products which could be considered northern souvenirs. There should be links from the NWT Tourism website to all NWT craft stores which have their wares on-line; links to all NWT artists or craftspersons who have an on-line display of their products made in the North: photos, moccasins, mitts, carvings, paintings and prints, books, Ragged Ass Road signs, I Break for Ptarmigan stickers; the list could be very long.

I appreciate there may be some wrangling required to set things up. Contracts would need to be put in place to protect both artists and broker, but surely we have the skill and the capacity to do that. If there’s another reason why NWT Tourism is not promoting NWT products on their website, I’m all ears to hear it. At the moment we’re failing our creative people and missing out on a wonderful opportunity to grow our territory.

I will have questions for the Minister of ITI at the appropriate time. Thank you.

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Authentic Northern Souvenirs

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . The Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Blake .

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Need For Full-Time Nurse In Tsiigehtchic

Members’ Statements

Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. For many years the community of Tsiigehtchic has been asking for a full-time nurse to be permanently stationed there. It is not just the community’s leadership asking for a nurse. Three years ago satisfaction surveys of the regional health services identified the people’s desire for a local nurse. Freeze-up and breakup of the Mackenzie River always disrupts some services, but health care is actually better in Tsiigehtchic at this time. That is because it is the only time there is a full-time nurse in the community. If it can be done during freeze-up and breakup, surely it can be done for the rest of the year.

Returning a nurse to Tsiigehtchic was even mentioned in the Department of Health and Social Services business plan in 2010-2011. The idea was that it would enhance primary care in the community. It was the right thing to do then, Mr. Speaker, and it is the right thing to do now.

Community wellness is a priority of this government, so I am at a loss to explain why no nurse has been stationed in Tsiigehtchic for all these years. The lack of housing is sometimes mentioned as a barrier, but it is not the problem now. The community has set aside housing, should a full-time nurse be able to come to the community.

The community has done its part. People have been very patient. If we are very serious about improving health services in our small communities, there will be a nurse for Tsiigehtchic. Thank you.

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Need For Full-Time Nurse In Tsiigehtchic

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Blake . The Member for Range Lake , Mr. Dolynny .

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Bison And Highway Safety Issues

Members’ Statements

Daryl Dolynny

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. With the warmer weather and our ferry back in the water, our NWT roads will once again be bustling with more traffic and tourists. As one of many people who have had near white-knuckle misses with bison on the highway, it’s not if you will have an encounter with bison, it’s more likely when.

I have some residents of Range Lake wanting me to mention and seek a long-term solution to prevent bison/human conflict in the NWT. As the number of collisions and probability of human fatality is increasing with increasing traffic, the expansion of herd areas due to flooding in the Mackenzie bison

sanctuary is very evident, and improved road conditions over the last 20 years is making the encounters that much more problematic.

Ultimately, the GNWT has undertaken the following actions under the Wood Bison Management Strategy for 2010-2020 to address this concern. Some of the action items have been the expanded harvest in the Tlicho and Nahanni regions, allowing harvests in the area along Highway No. 3, increased public education, improved road signage and the use of campaigns such as Drive Alive. Good as these initiatives are, there is still the physical issue of North America’s largest land mammal competing in the same arena of chance as motorists. Harvest strategies, deterrence measures and more signage, albeit great tools, are no match when the probability of chance occurs.

Therefore, Mr. Speaker, we as the government need to look outside the box for a long-term, viable solution to protect animals and motorists. We need to create and manage the proper mitigation strategies that would include in-vehicle warning systems like on-board animal detectors, or better yet, the use of reflective ear tags so that visibility becomes the driving force of safety. We understand that ear tagging and collaring could be done in a way to minimize the stress or injury of the animal. This is a given. The true hurdle would be those groups who could possibly object to such intrusive intervention, and it is with these groups we need to collaborate fully.

In the end, with the proper safety program of electronic reflective tagging, we, for the first time, can solve the issue of safety and scientific herd monitoring all with the same keystroke.

I will look forward to asking the Minister of ENR later today to seek his support of the extension of the Bison Management Initiative with the use of reflective ear tagging for wood bison on our NWT highways. Thank you.

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Bison And Highway Safety Issues

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny . The Member for Hay River North , Mr. Bouchard .

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NWT Fishermen’s Federation And NWT Fishing Industry

Members’ Statements

Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to begin my Member’s statement today giving best wishes to the NWT Fishermen’s Federation who are hosting their annual general meeting today, and apologies that I cannot be there for them. However, I would like to discuss the fishing industry in my Member’s statement today.

The NWT Fishermen’s Federation has been a vital part of the Hay River industry and a traditional economy in the Hay River area. I am concerned with the future of the industry. Some of the issues that are faced by the industry right now are the high

costs of gasoline, training and getting people to join the industry, opening up new markets, and supporting through all of our commercial organizations and government facilities.

I would like to know today, with my questions to the Minister of ITI , how the department has been involved in this NWT Fishermen’s Federation. My questions today will be for the Minister on how the department is working on new programs to develop the NWT fishers in the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

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Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bouchard . The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Need For New Schools In Trout Lake And Nahanni Butte

Members’ Statements

Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Teachers and schools was an important focus today with the Education Hall of Fame ceremonies. I want to continue that theme today by raising, once again, the need for new schools in Trout Lake and Nahanni Butte. I hope that they can begin their school year with some news of progress towards the creation of new schools in those communities.

I know you remember that the Nahanni Butte school is an old log building and the people of Trout Lake technically don’t have a school. They are still using the recreation centre there. This has been going on for years now and it’s very frustrating for the parents, teachers and students in both communities.

Earlier this year the Education Minister informed me that work on replacing the Charles Yohin School in Nahanni Butte will not begin until 2016, four or five years from now. It is an even longer wait in Trout Lake. Work on the new Charles Tetcho School is not scheduled to begin until 2018-19.

The whole generation of students will be stuck in the current inadequate facilities. It pains me to hear all this talk about our priorities for healthy, educated people and our strategy for Aboriginal student achievement even as the basic learning environments are neglected in Nahanni Butte and Trout Lake.

Students in our small communities deserve the same opportunities as in the larger centres. If this government is actually going to deliver on its stated priorities, we will finally see some action on putting schools in Trout Lake and Nahanni Butte. I will be pushing for that as we move into planning for the next capital budget.

Later today I will ask the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment if he is making any real progress for these communities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Need For New Schools In Trout Lake And Nahanni Butte

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . The honourable Member for Weledeh , Mr. Bromley .

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Future Of NWT Resource Management

Members’ Statements

Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The government says it will seek input this summer on the vision, principles and objectives that should frame the management of our lands and resources in the future. I have called upon the government for some years to seek this input from the public. When devolution does occur, we must be ready to put in place a new management regime that reflects our values, priorities and environmental needs. I congratulate the government on beginning this work and look forward to hearing the details.

Meanwhile, the federal government seems intent on disassembling environmental protections and collapsing the regional land and water boards into a single NWT board. The loss of habitat protection from the Fisheries Act and the imposition of artificial deadlines for the completion of environmental reviews are especially disturbing. This government has said it will work to ensure federal changes maintain proper environmental impact assessment in the NWT. I look forward to details on this as well.

The proposal to eliminate regional land and water boards will seriously reduce local control over the pace and scope of development provided in the MVRMA in May. It could result in the elimination of 14 regional and six Yellowknife positions. In addition, 20 board positions offering honoraria to regional board members will be lost. Communities and regional residents will lose key local sources of information and the knowledge, experience and capacity regional staff provide.

Will we also lose resources at the time of devolution as the federal government pares down programs? If these changes are inevitable, there are some basics that we should insist upon to retain local insights and participation. The first is preservation of current board budgets reassigned to resident regional technical experts and analysis that provides expert advice to remaining board members.

Regional board offices must remain active to ensure community presence and points of contact for concerned input, completion of the development of land use plans and common standards and guidelines for development proposal review and provisions for special regional concerns must be established. Future board meetings must be held rotationally in communities, not just Yellowknife, and GNWT and Aboriginal governments need the mandate for appointing board members.

Public oversight and environmental protection are at a crucial crossroads. As we prepare to assume the stewardship of our shared resource birthright,

we’ll need to be ready to ensure citizens’ aspirations and environmental safety are protected.

I will be asking questions of the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources and Finance . Mahsi.

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Future Of NWT Resource Management

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . The Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Municipal Tax Exemption For Senior Citizens And Disabled Persons

Members’ Statements

Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Northwest Territories has a unique program to help senior citizens and disabled persons in our communities. The Senior Citizens and Disabled Persons Property Tax Relief Act provides for tax exemption for eligible individuals to assist with their needs and help them remain in their own homes as long as possible. This well-intentioned law came into force in 1988 and the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs has been reviewing it throughout the better part of my political career. A review and amendments to this act are long overdue.

Currently the act discriminates between eligible persons living in general taxation area communities and municipal taxation area communities. In the municipal taxation area you can only receive an exemption if the co-owners of the property are also eligible applicants or dependents. So if you are 67 but your spouse is 63, you are not eligible for tax relief until both of you have reached the age of 65. Likewise, if you are disabled and a co-owner of your home is not, you do not qualify for a property tax exemption. In the general taxation area there is no such condition.

This policy is extremely unfair. This benefit should assist the elderly and disabled members of our society regardless of their living arrangements. Just how many senior citizens and disabled persons are the sole owners of their homes? How many people give up the opportunity to work full time so that they can care for a member of their household who is disabled and requires extra help in their older years? We have a small population and we should be able to provide assistance to those who are less able to provide for themselves.

Time and energy went into proposing changes to this act in the last Assembly, but we need to do more than just talk about the issue. Amendments to this regulation/legislation are long overdue. These changes may require more public consultation and lead to debate, but that is what we do here. We work to make legislation in the best interests of the people of the Northwest Territories. Changes to this act must come forward so that we can provide reasonable, equitable benefits to residents who are among the most vulnerable in our society.

Mr. Speaker, we should adopt some of the slogans of some corporate entities, like “Get ‘er Done,” the Royal Bank “Can Do,” the Athletic Shirt “Just Do It.” Mr. Speaker, let’s get ‘er done. Thank you.

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Municipal Tax Exemption For Senior Citizens And Disabled Persons

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . The Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Regulations Pertaining To The Cosmetic Tanning Industry

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I’d like to talk about tanning equipment because it’s time that we have some type of discussion on tanning beds, booths, lamps and their use for cosmetic purposes. The public discussion and information is really required.

It’s an issue brought forward to me by a number of constituents who have had grave cause in some of the recent findings, because tanning devices, as we know them, do cause cancer. The World Health Organization officially classified them as a carcinogenic item back in 2009.

The average person doesn’t know that some tanning beds emit ultraviolet radiation five times more intense than the midday summer light. Research has also told us that they’ve found that a person’s risk of getting skin cancer increases by 75 percent if they use these tanning beds before the age of 35. Naturally, Canada has guidelines for tanning gear, but not much in the way of regulation, so responsibility is really left up to the customers and some of the organizations that run these things. Studies, of course, show that tanning beds are particularly – and I stress particularly – risky for children who use them, but again, we don’t have any laws to prohibit that.

So many jurisdictions have banned or even restricted the use of tanning beds for young people and I’ll point out a few. Around the world we have places like Nova Scotia, Australia, and even France who have thought about this and taken serious steps to provide measures to protect our young people. It’s time maybe that the Government of the Northwest Territories finally consider some type of regulation on this type of industry to protect our folks who are young.

This gives us a chance to come up with some guidelines and public discussion on ensuring that our people under the age of 18 are protected. Adults can obviously make their own minds up and use the equipment as they feel they can, and certainly most of our adults are in a position to understand the risks, but I would say that it’s time that the Health Minister come forward with some type of discussion to make sure our youth are protected.

Justifiably, there are many laws on our books that are there to protect our young people until they are

reaching an age where they can make smart and responsible choices on their own. I think the tanning bed equipment should be one more of those issues added to the list that puts our young people ahead of personal vanity.

Later today I will have questions for the Health Minister to see what he will be willing to do on this particular subject.

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Regulations Pertaining To The Cosmetic Tanning Industry

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . The honourable Member for Deh Cho , Mr. Nadli .

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Managing The Sport Fishing Industry

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. With rivers breaking up and lakes melting across the NWT comes a time that many people look forward to: the summer sport fishing season. Sport fishing has a great sustainable tourism potential for our communities that we perhaps do not make as much as we could. There should be business opportunities for local guides, hotels, bed and breakfasts, restaurants, stores, boat and equipment rentals, and arts and crafts. However, the large number of RVs and trucks gathered by the winter road crossing and campgrounds near Fort Providence especially can be overwhelming at times.

Unfortunately, we do not always see these people coming into the community and spending their money locally.

At the same time we need to be careful that the fish stocks stay healthy and that we are not overfishing or damaging their environment. There are special restrictions in place for particularly sensitive areas. For example, the Providence Creek is closed to sport fishing from April 15th to May 30th and there

are special limits on jackfish and pickerel for the Horn River and Mills Lake as well as the Mackenzie River Management Area which includes the Kakisa and Fort Providence regions to just west of Hay River. There are also special limits on grayling in that area.

The federal Department of Fisheries and Oceans is responsible for the regulations, and both the DFO officers and our local ENR officers enforce them. DFO does some monitoring of the fish in the area; however, overall there have been very few studies on fish, fish habitat and harvest numbers in the Northwest Territories.

Fish are a very important resource for all the Deh Cho communities as food, as part of our culture, and now economically as well. The communities know this best and I think we need to be looking at ways for them to get more directly involved in protecting the management of sport fishing in the area. We should not be relying entirely on the federal government to do this. The GNWT also needs to be working with the communities more closely to figure out how to benefit from the tourism

traffic that is already on our doorsteps and how to ensure that it remains sustainable.

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Managing The Sport Fishing Industry

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Nadli . Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Monfwi , Mr. Lafferty .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. It gives me great pleasure to recognize 2012 Education Hall of Fame inductees here with us in the gallery. First is Helen Kitekudlak from Ulukhaktok, Betty Barnaby from Fort Good Hope, Chris Baron from Behchoko, Angela James from Yellowknife, Margaret Thom from Fort Providence, Kevin Antoniak from Fort Smith, and Dr. Curtis Brown from Fort Smith. Congratulations. Thanks for joining us here in the gallery.

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’ve got a few people to recognize. First up I’d like to recognize Margaret Marshall. She’s a constituent.

As well as Liz Wyman, a constituent who is also the chair of the Yellowknife Health and Social Services Authority, and of course Liz Wyman is no stranger in the business community. She’s a very successful lady.

As well, the next two people I would like to recognize are Michele Letourneau and Annemieke Mulders. I believe they’re sitting up front here. For many of you, you may recognize their names. They’ve been rightly fighting for fair and safe access to their dwelling through the rental office process, a saga continuing on today.

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . The honourable Member for Weledeh , Mr. Bromley .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also would like to recognize all the people who have been inducted into the Education Hall of Fame and thank them for amazing work that they’ve done through their careers to date.

I especially want to mention Angela James, who has been the principal down at K’alemi Dene School, as well as, of course, the K’alemi Dene School Choir which performed during the ceremonies earlier this morning.

In relation to that, I’m also very pleased to recognize two of our Pages also from K’alemi Dene School who are well represented today in many ways: Brent Betsina, to your right, Mr. Speaker, and Johnny Ray Johnson-Black, to your left. I’m very pleased to have them in the House. I’m not sure if this may be the first time K’alemi Dene School has been in the House, but I’m very happy to see them.

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . The honourable Member for Deh Cho , Mr. Nadli .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It’s not very often that I get an opportunity to recognize people in the gallery but I have two special people from my home community and constituency of the Deh Cho. I hope they’re still here. Mr. Jim and Mrs. Margaret Thom.

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Nadli . I, too, would like to welcome, it’s not too often that I get to have constituents here from Ulukhaktok. It’s Helen and Joseph Kitekudlak from Ulukhaktok.

While I’ve got a moment, I’d like to… The 40 years, Helen, that you’ve given to all the students in the home school of Helen Kalvak Elihakvik School in Ulukhaktok and we’re really thankful for all the work you’ve done, both you and Joseph. Thank you very much. It’s good to have constituents here. Welcome to the Legislative Assembly.

Again to all the Education Hall of Fame inductees, welcome to the Legislative Assembly. I’d like to welcome all our visitors in the public gallery here today for taking an interest in our proceedings here today. Thank you very much.

Item 6, acknowledgements. The honourable Member for Deh Cho , Mr. Nadli .

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Acknowledgement 3-17(3): Margaret Thom – Education Hall Of Fame Inductee

Acknowledgements

Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I would just like to acknowledge Mrs. Margaret Thom, who was the recipient of the Education Hall of Fame. Also with Margaret is her husband, Jim.

Margaret has contributed to the education of her people through her work as community counsellor at the Deh Gah Elementary and Secondary School for 20 years. She has taken a lead role in supporting graduates by travelling with them to post-secondary institutions. Many students have been successful as they continued their education, thanks to her continued support even after they’re finished in school.

Margaret recognizes the importance of traditional teachings and education. She has made sure that the cultural value and beliefs of the people of the Deh Cho are present in all the school and what the school does from counselling to parental involvement to classroom work. In 2009 Margaret became the first elder representative on the Aurora College Board of Governors.

Margaret, it gives me great pleasure to recognize your contributions to the community.

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Acknowledgement 3-17(3): Margaret Thom – Education Hall Of Fame Inductee

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Nadli . Item 7, oral questions. The honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake , Mr. Moses .

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Question 47-17(3): Evaluating Contracts And Business Incentive Policy

Oral Questions

Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In follow up to my Member’s statement, I would like to ask the Minister of Health and Social Services a few questions on a process that brought this situation down to the floor. I’d like to ask the Minister what the steps and processes that the Department of Health and Social Services takes in awarding service contracts and is it a common practice between all contracts throughout the regions.

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Question 47-17(3): Evaluating Contracts And Business Incentive Policy

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Moses . The honourable Minister responsible for Health and Social Services , Mr. Beaulieu .

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Question 47-17(3): Evaluating Contracts And Business Incentive Policy

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The standard process is that if it’s a tender, then it’s evaluated using the Business Incentive Policy for just the tendered cash value. If it’s an RFP, it’s evaluated as an RFP by the Business Incentive Policy.

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Question 47-17(3): Evaluating Contracts And Business Incentive Policy

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

My second question is: How does a local contractor lose a contract that he previously had for four or five years to a southern company, and most likely through the BIP process? Can I ask the Minister to explain that one to me? Thank you.

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Question 47-17(3): Evaluating Contracts And Business Incentive Policy

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

In this particular case it was an RFP, which evaluates the certain categories of the RFP through experience, methodology, cost, northern content and so on. It was determined that the southern bid had higher points in certain areas of the RFP including areas in the fees and costs. And because the southern bidder had all local employees at the particular location of the job, they were, after the BIP evaluation was done, the southern contractor had more points. Based on that, the award was given to the southern contractor.

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Question 47-17(3): Evaluating Contracts And Business Incentive Policy

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

When the contract was awarded out to the southern company, our local contractor in Inuvik was already told that he had got the contract after the BIP was awarded to the southern company. It’s pretty mindboggling. Anyhow, how can the department justify signing off on a contract when the initial contractor, the one who had it before, is appealing the process? During the appeal process, how can this government sign off on a contract, especially when it’s going to a southern company and our northern dollars are going south? Thank you.

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Question 47-17(3): Evaluating Contracts And Business Incentive Policy

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

The contract, there was a bit of a timeline between when the bid was out and

when it closed. The evaluation process is that the Beaufort-Delta Health and Social Services Authority did the BIP evaluation. It was initially determined that the northern contractor had a better score, but after consultation with ITI, who are the keepers of the Business Incentive Policy, they determined that, no, in fact the southern contractor had the higher bid, so they allowed the appeal to the Public Works, which is our quality control for the Business Incentive Policy. After that appeal, Public Works supported the original decision of the Beaufort-Delta Health and Social Services and ITI that definitely, in fact, the points issued on the second evaluation was correct. Thank you.

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Question 47-17(3): Evaluating Contracts And Business Incentive Policy

Oral Questions

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . Your final, short supplementary, Mr. Moses .

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Question 47-17(3): Evaluating Contracts And Business Incentive Policy

Oral Questions

Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. After the initial awards were brought forth, it had come to the headquarters here and it was headquarters that had made the recommendations that they review the BIP policy. I believe that’s the process, according to my sources dealing with this guy. What it comes down to is we want answers. I’d like to ask the Minister if he’s willing to make public the original proposals with the date received stamp on them as well as the contract scores in detail. Not the final scores.

The scores in detail of the contracts made public to this contractor and to everybody so that contractors out there know how this government is awarding contracts and why some of our small local contractors are losing out. Thank you. I’d like that commitment.

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Question 47-17(3): Evaluating Contracts And Business Incentive Policy

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

I don’t think it’s an issue with the department to review with the losing contractor in this case. No problem. We can provide the information. I think the information actually was provided on the BIP evaluation by Public Works after the original BIP evaluation was done and also provided to the contractor. But making these forms public, I don’t have the information to make that decision at this time to make this public information. Thank you.

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Question 47-17(3): Evaluating Contracts And Business Incentive Policy

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . The Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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Question 48-17(3): Promotion Of Authentic Northern Tourism Products

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are addressed to the Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment . I have to say I was really glad to hear the Minister’s remarks earlier today when he made his statement. He talked about wanting an economy that’s diversified. Absolutely I agree. He wants to raise the profile of locally made, in this case, jewellery products. Absolutely I agree. He wants to support the local arts sector and he feels it’s an important element to grow this sector to do that promotion. It flies in the face of what I spoke

about in my statement where we have an NWT Tourism website which does none of that in terms of local, northern-made products.

I’d like to ask the Minister, first off, where each of the items that are displayed on that website are made, the licence plates, the pins, the maps and the luggage tags. Thank you.

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Question 48-17(3): Promotion Of Authentic Northern Tourism Products

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . The Minister responsible for Industry, Tourism and Investment , Mr. Ramsay .

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Question 48-17(3): Promotion Of Authentic Northern Tourism Products

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’ll get that information for the Member but I think most importantly is what we’re doing going forward. I spoke earlier today about our support for diversifying the economy here in the Northwest Territories, and there are three major initiatives that we hope to carry out in 2012-13. That’s an NWT artist database and website, NWT Arts Branding Logo Program and Arts Marketing Tactical Plan. These will be conducted here in the next year and, certainly, I will look into whether we can link sites from around the Northwest Territories to the NWT Tourism site.

That is an idea that I think is a good one. I will be in touch with NWT Tourism to see if we can make that happen. Thank you.

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Question 48-17(3): Promotion Of Authentic Northern Tourism Products

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thanks to the Minister. I’m glad to hear that we are going to do something, but I am a little concerned that we’re not doing anything at this point. I guess I would like to know from the Minister, at this point, what we do right now to promote our northern products, whether they be books, whether they be music, whether they be paintings and carvings. All of the products which are produced by our northern residents, what do we do right now to promote them? Thank you.

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Question 48-17(3): Promotion Of Authentic Northern Tourism Products

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Earlier I spoke of the close to $1 million that goes out between ITI and ECE in support of artists around the Northwest Territories. We do support festivals. We support our artists. I also should mention BDIC and Northern Canada Trading. I think that’s a component of the BDIC that I believe currently is underutilized and something I’d like to see have more far-reaching impact. I think we as a government should take more of an active role in promoting our own artists and getting goods produced locally here in the Northwest Territories, into a storefront somewhere to be sold to the travelling public.

Where that is going to take place, that remains to be seen, but I certainly think we have a long way to go. But I think with a concerted effort we can get there and I’m interested in seeing us make some progress in this area. Thank you.

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Question 48-17(3): Promotion Of Authentic Northern Tourism Products

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

I didn’t hear much there about promotion. I mean, it’s a wonderful idea to have a storefront, but there are an awful lot of people who look for stuff from the North and they look for it from afar. They’re not here and they’d be quite happy to buy stuff on-line. I would like to ask the Minister,

and I appreciate that he’s committed to look into possibly linking artists, all our artisans to the NWT Tourism website, but he’s talking many months down the road. I would like to suggest this is not an expensive proposition. If people are on-line already, it’s a simple matter to link them to our NWT Tourism website. I’d like to ask the Minister if he can make it a reality as soon as possible, and when I say as soon as possible, I’m asking the Minister for a date when I could expect to see northern products linked through the NWT Tourism website. Thank you.

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Question 48-17(3): Promotion Of Authentic Northern Tourism Products

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

As I outlined to the Member earlier, the development of the three initiatives is going to be carried out in this fiscal year 2012-13. It includes an NWT artist database and website. Certainly, when that is wrapped up, we can look at linking it to NWT Tourism site.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . Final, short supplementary, Ms. Bisaro .

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thanks to the Minister for that comprehensive list. I didn’t hear much in there about how we promote our artists’ sales, how we get their products out there and they get the money. I appreciate that there is a database coming, but I don’t think we need a database to link those artists who already have an on-line presence to the NWT Tourism website. I think it is a matter of e-mailing them and asking them for their connection and then we get TSC to do it. Will the Minister commit to do that in the very near future as opposed to waiting for the plans that he has? Thank you.

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Yes, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 48-17(3): Promotion Of Authentic Northern Tourism Products

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Question 49-17(3): New School Construction In Small Communities

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will look forward to build on those yeses here with my questions today. I would like to ask the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , I spoke once again about the need for new schools in Nahanni Butte and Trout Lake. We have super schools and mega renovations in Inuvik and Yellowknife. That is where our education money is being spent. When will the Minister and this government start turning their attention to our small communities and regions? Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Lafferty .

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Yes, we do focus on the communities, the 33 communities that we service, small communities, larger communities. It all depends on the infrastructures that are in most critical need. Depending on the Trout Lake and also other communities such as Nahanni Butte and other Deh Cho communities, throughout the Northwest Territories it all depends on the infrastructure itself where some of the schools are compatible for students as some of these highlighted, the Member is highlighting from his district riding.

We must keep in mind that we have to work with the Dehcho Divisional Board of Education, as well, to identify these as critical need. I will continue to work with them and work with the Member as well. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Mr. Speaker, I have been making the case for many years now that the needs are critical. I don’t know what the standards are according to ECE standards for school buildings, because we have an old log building in Nahanni Butte. Technically we don’t have a school in Trout Lake. The old Charles Tetcho School had burned down. They had moved the school into the recreation centre. At that time the government promised that they will be there until the new school is built, so they still don’t have a school. I would like to ask the Minister what exact guidelines and standards do we have for our school of communities in terms of school buildings? Thank you.

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, there are capital standards and criteria that we do follow with all of the schools in the Northwest Territories. With respect to the Charles Tetcho School, there is currently a capacity of an identified 33 students. That is 61 percent for 2011-12. Those are numbers that we are currently working with.

With regard to Nahanni Butte, we have contributed $380,000 in 2011-12 for technical upgrades and also minor renovations for that school. Those are

the areas that we continue to upgrade. I have already made a commitment to Members that I will be going to the Deh Cho riding in August to review more in detail. Mahsi.

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Mr. Speaker, certainly the communities and I look forward to the Minister visiting the communities and show him exactly their needs.

Since February, after speaking with the Minister, I would like to know what the Minister has done to date to review the long-term capital plan and look at moving up these capital needs for these two communities. Thank you.

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, since the beginning of the year, every time we go through the capital planning process, we have identified various capital needs in the communities. When it comes to discussion at the regional level and also within the department there are some areas that don’t make it through the system within the process itself, but we will continue to push these further into the capital planning process, pending the criteria that has been outlined by part of the criteria for the schools as planning process.

This is an area that we continuously work with the superintendents and also the board chairs in the region. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Menicoche .

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That is the exact area that I would like to explore further. We have to commit at least some planning dollars to look at these two schools in these two communities so that we can make a good case at the capital planning fall time budget session. I would like to ask the Minister if he can at least do that and have a good assessment of those schools in the capital planning process this fall. Mahsi.

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, Nahanni and Trout Lake have been an earmark of our discussion here in the House and my department is fully aware. They are doing a review of those two schools and generate it for this capital planning process. If it makes it this time around or next year – we have to start planning for next year as well – we will see what we can do with that and the review process. I will take that Member’s notice into consideration as well. We will definitely be in discussion with that. Mahsi.

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Question 49-17(3): New School Construction In Small Communities

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . The honourable Member for Hay River North , Mr. Bouchard .

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Question 50-17(3): Commercial Fishing Industry

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Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In my Member’s statement I indicated my concern with

the future of the commercial fishing industry in Hay River. My question today will be for the Minister of ITI . What is the department doing to innovate and to assist commercial industry in the Northwest Territories?

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bouchard . The honourable Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment , Mr. Ramsay .

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Question 50-17(3): Commercial Fishing Industry

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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We currently have a funding program to assist commercial fishermen in the Northwest Territories at $225,000 a year. Thank you.

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Question 50-17(3): Commercial Fishing Industry

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Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

My next question is concerning the government facilities. Does the Minister have information on how much fish is bought in the Northwest Territories through our government facilities such as correctional facilities and schools and stuff like that?

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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment

Mr. Speaker, I don’t have that level of detail with me today, but I believe that was an issue that came up during the last sitting. I believe it was Mr. Bromley that brought that up as a performance indicator, how much local fish and meat products we are using in the Northwest Territories. If the Member likes, I can provide him with that information. Thank you.

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Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

Mr. Speaker, yes, I would like that information. I would like to know what the department is doing to encourage purchasing through the different departments and facilities.

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Question 50-17(3): Commercial Fishing Industry

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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment

Mr. Speaker, the NWT Fishermen’s Federation is still involved with the Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation. They voted back in December of 2010 to remain a part of that organization. That organization is in fact going through a bit of turmoil. Just recently both Saskatchewan and northern Ontario have pulled out of FFMC and 90 percent of the total fish being run through FFMC now comes from Manitoba. There have also been some issues with the governance of the FFMC. So that’s where currently the NWT Fishermen’s Federation is marketing their fish.

As to the future here in the Northwest Territories, we do want to work with the NWT Fishermen’s Federation. We want to ensure a viable commercial fishery here in the Northwest Territories and we will continue to support commercial fishing in the NWT. Should the NWT Fishermen’s Federation decide at some point not to continue with FFMC, then we will have to reconsider our support and see where else we can help the fishermen in the NWT. Thank you.

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Question 50-17(3): Commercial Fishing Industry

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Bouchard .

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Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My next question is concerning one of the issues that face the commercial fishermen right now and that’s

the high cost of fuel. One of the things that they pay is they pay the full taxes on the road tax. I know the department has looked in the past at this and they recently reviewed this policy. Is there somehow they can support the commercial fishing industry, because the gas is not used on a road system?

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Question 50-17(3): Commercial Fishing Industry

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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment

Thank you. The $225,000 that I spoke of earlier, that is money that goes to commercial fishers here in the NWT to help offset the high cost of fuel to help get them out on the lake harvesting fish. That’s something that we will continue to support. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Blake .

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Question 51-17(3): Need For Full-Time Nurse In Tsiigehtchic

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In follow up to my Member’s statement, I have questions for the Minister of Health and Social Services . Why is there still no nurse in Tsiigehtchic? Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Blake . The Minister of Health , Mr. Beaulieu .

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Question 51-17(3): Need For Full-Time Nurse In Tsiigehtchic

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Currently the system that we’re employing and working with is the health and social services integrated service delivery model, which uses a combination of nurses, physicians and other community primary care workers to cover the nursing needs in all communities that have under 250 people. Thank you.

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you. What are Health and Social Services and the regional health authority doing to remedy this situation?

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

The first thing we’re doing is we’re reviewing the integrated service delivery model and working with the health and social services authorities across the territory so that they have an opportunity to re-evaluate the nursing needs in each community, including communities that have under 250 people, for a possible placement of nurses in those communities. Thank you.

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

As I mentioned earlier, the community has set aside housing for a nurse. Will the Minister work with the community leaders to find a way to put a nurse in that house? Thank you.

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Yes, the department and the health and social services authority is willing to work with the community to try to get a nurse into Tsiigehtchic on a full-time basis. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Blake .

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. No further questions.

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Question 51-17(3): Need For Full-Time Nurse In Tsiigehtchic

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Blake . The Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Question 52-17(3): Contract Evaluation And Business Incentive Policy

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have so many questions today I don’t know which ones to ask, but let me follow up on my colleague Mr. Moses ’ questions.

Now, I’m not familiar with his constituent and I’m not familiar with the contract, but I just want to tell you what I heard through objective ears here in this exchange on the floor of the House. I heard that the health authority assessed an RFP and the local contractor was the appropriate contractor or proposal to win the contract. It got put through the BIP process and they, as a northern BIP company, then, after you’ve applied the BIP process, lost the contract to a southern contractor. Is that what I’m hearing? Because if that’s the case, BIP backfired on us this time.

I’ve listened to the exchange and I’m extremely curious about it, because RFPs are purposefully set up to allocate a score for experience, management, and you’d think if the person had the contract already that they would score very high in that area. So I’d like to ask the Minister of Health and Social Services is that where this contract was lost with the application of the BIP on a northern company. Thank you.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . The Minister of Health and Social Services , Mr. Beaulieu .

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The original evaluation of BIP and how an individual from the authority advised a northern contractor that looked like they had the best bid was based on the fact that the evaluation was done without evaluating the northern content of the southern bidder, the original. Thank you.

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you. Okay, so I understand that. So they didn’t look at the northern content piece of the southern bidder’s proposal, but then the northern proponent appealed the evaluation and there is an opportunity, there is a vehicle to do that. Why was the contract awarded while the appeal process was still in play? Thank you.

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

The contract was awarded after the appeal process was denied by quality assurance, Public Works and Services. Thank you.

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you. The details of this are starting to sound more and more like, as my colleague Mr. Moses suggested, that we need a little disclosure on this, because we as MLAs, and residents of the NWT who are bidding on contracts,

need to have confidence that their proposals are being treated in a fair manner and this seems to have a few anomalies which would indicate to the contrary.

So along with my colleague Mr. Moses , I would like to ask the Minister if he will provide a full briefing for us on this side of the House on how this went wrong. Obviously something went wrong. The proponent from the North thought they had the contract, then found that they didn’t have the contract and there was a mistake made, perhaps that things should have been recalled and they should have started over again. Thank you.

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Yes, we can do that. I will discuss with the two other departments that are involved in this evaluation, those being ITI for BIP and then the appeal process through Public Works and Services. The three departments will get together and develop a presentation specific to this review and provide that to P and P. Thank you.

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Question 52-17(3): Contract Evaluation And Business Incentive Policy

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . Final, short supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Question 52-17(3): Contract Evaluation And Business Incentive Policy

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So this in fact is three departments. ITI, Public Works and Health and Social Services will do a post-mortem on a process after the fact. What opportunity or vehicle or tool does the Minister have to correct this problem should it be determined from this evaluation of this process that this was in fact awarded to the wrong company? What will the Minister do about it?

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Question 52-17(3): Contract Evaluation And Business Incentive Policy

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Jackie Jacobson

That’s a hypothetical question, but I’ll give it if the Minister wants to respond.

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Question 52-17(3): Contract Evaluation And Business Incentive Policy

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Mr. Speaker, I would have to do the evaluation with the departments, like I indicated. Then there are tools that will allow us to make a decision that if we felt that the wrong decision was made at the end of the day, then we would have to consider doing something. I don’t know the process, I don’t know if that technically has been reversed in the past, but at this time the decision was based on an evaluation of the authority, ourselves, ITI and Public Works. So the decision was made based on that. If this re-evaluation going through another appeal process determines a different outcome, then we’ll have to cross that bridge when we get there.

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Question 52-17(3): Contract Evaluation And Business Incentive Policy

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . The honourable Member for Range Lake , Mr. Dolynny .

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Question 53-17(3): Bison And Highway Safety Issues

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Daryl Dolynny

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today in my Member’s statement I mentioned the increased need for physical intervention to provide safety to both motorists and bison on our NWT highways. Admittedly the Department of ENR in conjunction with the Department of Transportation have done a

relatively good job under the Wood Bison Management Strategy, with harvest strategies, deterrence measures, communication and improved signage. However, it is very clear that it is not enough, given the unique circumstances and increased migration of bison onto our highway corridor. Can the Minister of ENR indicate what’s been taking place behind the scenes with his department that would address a more forward thinking of bison and motorist safety on our NWT roads?

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Question 53-17(3): Bison And Highway Safety Issues

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny . The honourable Minister responsible for Environment and Natural Resources , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Question 53-17(3): Bison And Highway Safety Issues

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The list that the Member outlined I think is fairly progressive and it’s reflected in the number of collisions that ENR has in their database. There’s been a steady decline since 2009. There’s 17 collisions in 2009, six in 2010, five in 2011, none so far in 2012. I think the work is paying off and the ultimate responsibility, of course, for the control and care of the vehicle is that of the driver and making sure they drive appropriately given the conditions on the road, be it the condition of the road itself and if there are animals in the vicinity.

Not just bison, there could be moose as well. I would point out that there’s a far greater chance of suffering any kind of injury or fatality by hitting a moose than there is a bison.

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Question 53-17(3): Bison And Highway Safety Issues

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Daryl Dolynny

Range Lake

It was impressive today to hear some statistics. Unfortunately, if one is looking under the website under the Drive Alive program and bison awareness, the most recent statistics posted are somewhat dated. In fact, the last entries indicate only 2007 numbers in which 18 wood bison were killed by vehicle collisions. Given this information here, can the Minister indicate as to when the proper information that we just heard in the House will be posted on the website for update?

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Question 53-17(3): Bison And Highway Safety Issues

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

The officials are listening as we speak and we’ll make sure that this information that I have before me is there for the public as well.

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Question 53-17(3): Bison And Highway Safety Issues

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Daryl Dolynny

Range Lake

I guess the question today is not so much the probability of hitting a moose; the hot topic today is bison. I believe there is obviously a need for it. Anyone who is driving these roads, as I said earlier, it’s not a when, the imminence is there. There is no doubt. Given the need for a physical intervention, as I mentioned earlier, potential electronic tagging or reflective tagging to alert motorists of imminent bison danger, would this Minister and his department consider working with Regular Members, with industry leaders of reflective technology, the scientific community, and of course Aboriginal leaders to draft a business case that would allow real employment in the

region, real-time herd management, and of course motorist safety in the region.

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Question 53-17(3): Bison And Highway Safety Issues

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

The accidents involving bison are on a fairly significant decline, it would appear, because of the concerns that have been voiced over the years and the efforts that have been made to inform the public, to educate them, to do some of the signage issues, the increased hunting, the tags, which I think has been a great deterrent to bison hanging around the roads. The worst time of the year is October as things get dark and people still drive at speeds that they do in the summer and often get surprised.

I also understand, as well, that bison don’t, unlike other animals, turn into the approaching lights but tend to keep sideways, minimizing whatever benefit would be there from reflective tags. The other big issue is, especially with bulls, during rutting season tags tend to get torn off and all that work is in vain, as it were, so that the cost is great and the benefit seems to be minimal for that particular type of approach.

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Question 53-17(3): Bison And Highway Safety Issues

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Dolynny .

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Question 53-17(3): Bison And Highway Safety Issues

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Daryl Dolynny

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d have to disagree with the Minister on this one here. Studies in Colorado and BC are actually telling quite the opposite story with reflective technology and I would encourage the Minister and his department to do some research in that area. I hope that at the end of the day we’re talking about public safety and it only requires one incident here, and we’re trying to prevent that one incident.

Again, my last and final question to the Minister is: How and when would the Minister consider such a strategy to be implemented within the life of the 17th Assembly?

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Question 53-17(3): Bison And Highway Safety Issues

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

I’ll ask the officials in ENR to take a look to see what other studies have said. Clearly the numbers don’t bear out the type of investment the Member would seem to want and the risk to public safety, I would once again submit, is greater if you’re driving the highways in the North, especially towards the southern part where there’s moose, of hitting a moose where there has clearly been fatalities that I’m aware of both in the North and in the South. Once again, the ultimate responsibility of the vehicle is under the control of the driver and the driver has every responsibility to exercise due care and caution.

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Question 53-17(3): Bison And Highway Safety Issues

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . The honourable Member for Deh Cho , Mr. Nadli .

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Question 54-17(3): Sport Fishing And Land Use Plan In Fort Providence Area

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question today is to the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources . My statement today was about sport fishing. Sport fishing, of course, is a very leisurely activity that all Northerners undertake. If done right, more likely it could draw in tourists that more likely could spend dollars in the communities. It could also boost, ideally, business ensuring there’s a service delivered for tourists to travel up here for fishing.

In Fort Providence this is kind of a classic example of where perhaps we need to balance efforts to create economic opportunities plus conservation, so my question is: Can the Department of ENR assist in helping the communities seek a long-term sport fishing management plan for the area of Fort Providence?

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Question 54-17(3): Sport Fishing And Land Use Plan In Fort Providence Area

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Nadli . The honourable Minister responsible for Environment and Natural Resources , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Question 54-17(3): Sport Fishing And Land Use Plan In Fort Providence Area

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate the Member raising this concern and I would be happy to share with him the information that I do have on the work that’s been done over the last number of years on this issue that’s come up. The very specific question that he asked, I will have discussions with the officials of ENR and the deputy, keeping in mind that fisheries is a federal obligation and as of late they’ve been under some pressure due to deficit reductions and layoffs and such. We’ll see what is possible.

I appreciate the Member’s concern and I’ll once again share the information that I do have about the work that has been done over the last number of years trying to deal with this issue.

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Question 54-17(3): Sport Fishing And Land Use Plan In Fort Providence Area

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

I’d like to thank the Minister for responding and ensuring that there is an information flow to this side of the House. My immediate concern is this has been ongoing for some time, especially with the increased traffic as the potential for the bridge completion more likely we’ll have more people coming in by vehicles and also by boats. Just namely because of not just for the scenery but the fish that exist in that area. My question is: Is there anything immediate that the department could do to help the community monitor at least if the fish stocks in Fort Providence are at a sustainable level?

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Question 54-17(3): Sport Fishing And Land Use Plan In Fort Providence Area

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

There have been discussions with DFO with the community. There have been quotas put on. Especially during this time of year when the fish are running. There have been the renewable resources officers on the water more often and if they’re taken away by other fire duties, for example, we’ve in the past as well had local fish monitors making sure to check the fishing that’s going on. We’ve been making sure

that all the folks that are fishing have the proper licences and making sure that the catches are within the established limits. Once again, I’ll look forward to having a more detailed discussion with the Member.

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Question 54-17(3): Sport Fishing And Land Use Plan In Fort Providence Area

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Would the Minister agree as one possible option in consultation with the local community that the Minister could in fact perhaps consider designating the Fort Providence area as a conservation zone in land use planning?

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Question 54-17(3): Sport Fishing And Land Use Plan In Fort Providence Area

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

The Member is very well aware, I think, of the complexity of the Dehcho Land Use Plan and Protected Areas Strategy listing sites as conservation areas. There’s a process that’s been underway for many, many years now. If there was any wish to change that, it would be done through the table that currently is trying to resolve that issue.

I know as a government we’re committed to trying to get the Dehcho Land Use Plan agreed to and approved. It’s been a long time in the works. That issue would flow through that process and would require, I think, a significant amount of discussion if there’s going to be any significant change to what’s currently on the table.

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Question 54-17(3): Sport Fishing And Land Use Plan In Fort Providence Area

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Nadli .

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Question 54-17(3): Sport Fishing And Land Use Plan In Fort Providence Area

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My final question is just on the fish studies, whether there is perhaps within the department’s plan to evaluate the fish stocks on the Mackenzie River, ensuring that levels do indeed maintain at a sustainable rate.

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Question 54-17(3): Sport Fishing And Land Use Plan In Fort Providence Area

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

I’ll commit to have the ENR officials contact the Department of Fisheries and Oceans to get a full update on that particular issue which I will share with the Member.

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Question 54-17(3): Sport Fishing And Land Use Plan In Fort Providence Area

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . The honourable Member for Weledeh , Mr. Bromley .

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Question 55-17(3): Resource Management Negotiations With Federal Government

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to follow up on my Member’s statement and ask questions of the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources . Since devolution seems to be the lynchpin of this government’s thinking, I’ll start by asking about the process and effects of federal environmental actions on our future ability to manage our resources.

While critical final negotiations are underway, the federal government is changing the apparatus used to evaluate and regulate development. The one-board proposal, imposition of unsubstantiated deadlines and so on. How are we being treated by the federal government? Are they working with us on this or are they treating us as regular

stakeholders? Or are they recognizing that we are governments with pending authority for responsibility on land and resource management?

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