Oral Questions, Legislative Assembly And Executive Council Act — 9 June 1995 (12th Assembly, 7th Session, pp. 1229–1250)
1995-06-09, 12th Assembly 7th Session, pp. 1229–1250
Northwest Territories — Debates (Hansard)
Debates of June 9th, 1995
This is page numbers 1229 - 1250 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 7th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.
The word of the day was premier .
Topics
Members Present
Item 1: Prayer
Ministers Absent From The House
Sahtu Forest Fire
Gratitude To Emergency Response Organizations Re Sahtu Forest Fire
Kitikmeot Boarding Home Costs For Constituent
Resolutions Passed For Training Preparations For Nunavut
Problems With Custom Adoption Process
European Commission's Stance On Importation Of Canadian Furs
Invitation To Ministers To Visit Aivilik
Congratulating Pwk High School Graduates
Globe And Mail
Article Re Federal Gun Control Legislation
Congratulating Kitikmeot Tep Graduates
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Return To Oral Question 536-12(7): Procedures For GNWT Laid-off Or Redundant Positions
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Financial Assistance For Liberal Fund-raising Dinner
Status Of Part-time Glo Positions
Departmental Responsibility For Glo Positions
Minister's Visit To North American Art Symposium In New Mexico
Status Of Water Services In NWT Parks
Aircraft Services Used In Fighting Sahtu Forest Fire
Review Of Request For Proposals Re Bird Dog Aircraft Services
Payment For Accommodation At Kitikmeot Boarding Home
Status Of Health Services In Nahendeh Region
Status Of Formula Financing And Incremental Division Funding Negotiations
Request For Extra Assistance To Fight Sahtu Forest Fire
Waiving Employment Procedures For Fire Suppression Staff
Bip Status Of Northern Municipalities
Written Question 29-12(7): Proposal Call For Orthodontic Services
Written Question 30-12(7): Purchase Of Services From Northern Municipal Corporations
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents
Bill 33:
An Act To Amend The Legislative Assembly And Executive Council Act, No. 3
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Revert To Item 13: Tabling Of Documents
Samuel Hearne High School Graduation
Item 22: Orders Of The Day
Members Present
Mr. Allooloo , Mr. Antoine , Hon. Silas Arngna'naaq , Mr. Ballantyne , Hon. Nellie Cournoyea , Mr. Dent , Hon. Samuel Gargan , Mr. Lewis , Mrs. Marie-Jewell , Ms. Mike , Hon. Richard Nerysoo , Hon. Kelvin Ng , Mr. Patterson , Hon. John Pollard , Mr. Pudlat , Mr. Pudluk , Mrs. Thompson , Hon. John Todd , Mr. Whitford , Mr. Zoe
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---Prayer
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Item 1: Prayer
Item 1: Prayer
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Good morning. Thank you, Mr. Nerysoo . Orders of the day, item 2, Ministers' statements. Ms. Cournoyea .
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Item 1: Prayer
Item 1: Prayer
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Nellie Cournoyea
Nunakput
Mr. Speaker, may I make a brief emergency statement with regard to the forest fires that are happening in the Sahtu region?
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Item 1: Prayer
Item 1: Prayer
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Madam Premier , proceed.
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Minister's Statement 85-12(7): Ministers Absent From The House
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
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Nellie Cournoyea
Nunakput
Mr. Speaker, I wish to advise Members that the Honourable Don Morin 's return has been delayed so that he can attend to matters related to the Norman Wells forest fire and evacuation. The Honourable Stephen Kakfwi is also remaining in the region because of the fire situation. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Minister's Statement 85-12(7): Ministers Absent From The House
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Arngna'naaq .
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Minister's Statement 85-12(7): Ministers Absent From The House
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
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Silas Arngna'naaq
Kivallivik
Mr. Speaker, I would also like to make an emergency statement about the Sahtu forest fire.
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Minister's Statement 85-12(7): Ministers Absent From The House
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
You may proceed, Mr. Arngna'naaq .
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Minister's Statement 86-12(7): Sahtu Forest Fire
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
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Silas Arngna'naaq
Kivallivik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday the hot and windy weather caused the forest fire at Fort Norman to move down the Mackenzie Valley and it is now a threat to Norman Wells. The winds died down overnight and the fire remained about 50 kilometres southeast of Norman Wells. Based on advice from the Department of Renewable Resources, the emergency measures organization made the decision to also evacuate Norman Wells. All night planes flew. First, the 340 people from Fort Norman were moved to Deline and then the jets moved about 400 people to Yellowknife. The evacuation proceeded very smoothly and the Honourable Don Morin indicated that he has nothing but praise for all people involved.
The firefighting crews have now returned to Fort Norman. About 30 firefighters from the Sahtu and Deh Cho are in Fort Norman working to put out spot fires and they have set up a sprinkler system to keep buildings wet. The only loss at this time is the Ursus Airways building at the airport. The worst of the fire seems to be through that area now.
Actions are now being concentrated to protect Norman Wells. Four CL-215s are on site and one DC-4. Two more CL-215s are coming from Quebec. Caterpillars are working to establish a fireguard at Jackfish Lake, about five kilometres out of Norman Wells. Mr. Morin has been impressed with how hard and efficiently the firefighting crews are working in very difficult conditions.
The weather is expected to be hot and windy again today. At this time, we cannot predict when people will be able to return to their homes. Anyone wishing to know who arrived in Yellowknife from Norman Wells and where they are staying can call a special number at city hall. That number is 920-5693. Mr. Speaker, I, too, would like to praise all those who are involved in responding so capably and efficiently to this emergency. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Minister's Statement 86-12(7): Sahtu Forest Fire
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you, Mr. Arngna'naaq . Item 2, Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Ballantyne .
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Gratitude To Emergency Response Organizations Re Sahtu Forest Fire
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 1229
Michael Ballantyne
Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, on behalf of the Yellowknife MLAs and I'm sure all the Members of the House, I would like to express our support and our gratitude to the literally hundreds of individuals who have been involved in fighting the terrible fires in the Sahtu region and who have been involved in the emergency response organizations in Deline, Norman Wells and Yellowknife. On short notice, they have responded magnificently to this crisis. I think all of us owe all of those people a tremendous debt of gratitude.
Here in Yellowknife, at 10:00 pm last night, a team was mobilized. There are some 384 people who flew in from Norman Wells through the night. Dozens of municipal officials, territorial government officials and volunteers have been working with these people. They are set up in hotels and at Akaitcho Hall. The city is putting on recreation programs today for some 200 kids. I think all of us recognize that in a time of crisis, people of the Northwest Territories stick together and help one another. This is one of those times and I think we can all be proud of the way we've come together to deal with this crisis. Thank you, very much.
---Applause
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Gratitude To Emergency Response Organizations Re Sahtu Forest Fire
Item 3: Members' Statements
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Pudluk .
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Kitikmeot Boarding Home Costs For Constituent
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 1230
Ludy Pudluk
High Arctic
(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to raise something that is of concern to me. Last winter, the GLO positions were cut in half to part-time positions; few ended up with full-time positions. Since those cuts were made, people are only working part-time so their income has decreased drastically. At this time, there is a problem. The daughter of a woman who is a GLO is in Yellowknife and I believe it was yesterday that she tried to move to the Kitikmeot boarding home but she was told that she would have to pay room and board.
She was told that, since her mother works for the government and is a GLO, she would have to pay room and board. She couldn't stay at that boarding home when she found out she had to pay. Her mother's income has decreased and this is a big problem. Right now, she's house-sitting for people who are on holidays. She is all alone and her mother worries about her. She doesn't know what to expect, all alone in that house. I'm sure this will create a lot of problems.
A lot of people work as GLOs and most of them work part-time. This will have a big impact on the future. I just wanted to make that comment. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Kitikmeot Boarding Home Costs For Constituent
Item 3: Members' Statements
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Item 3, Members' statements. Ms. Mike .
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Resolutions Passed For Training Preparations For Nunavut
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 1230
Rebecca Mike
Baffin Central
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today as chairperson of the Nunavut Caucus to address an issue of some concern to Caucus Members and Nunavut leaders. Mr. Speaker, at the Nunavut leaders' summit in Gjoa Haven from January 19 to 21, 1995, several resolutions were passed which dealt with education and training preparations for Nunavut. To date, aside from one letter to a Nunavut Member of this House, to my knowledge, the Department of Education, Culture and Employment has not responded to any parties of the Gjoa Haven summit on the specific recommendations.
The Nunavut Caucus and other Nunavut leaders would be interested in learning about the progress to date on the consideration and possible implementation of these resolutions. Mr. Speaker, there were a number of recommendations directed to the department, including the suggestion of the immediate appointment of an assistant deputy minister of Education, Culture and Employment for Nunavut and the establishment of a Nunavut education leaders' working group to be chaired by the assistant deputy minister for Nunavut.
Mr. Speaker, as 1999 draws near, planning for Nunavut must address training and education needs as a priority. Therefore, it is imperative that the Minister formally respond to the resolutions with respect to education so that planning can continue in a coordinated and cooperative manner. An initial response from the Minister will be expected when Members of the Nunavut Caucus address this issue during question period before the conclusion of our session. Thank you.
---Applause
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Resolutions Passed For Training Preparations For Nunavut
Item 3: Members' Statements
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Pudlat .
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Problems With Custom Adoption Process
Item 3: Members' Statements
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Kenoayoak Pudlat
Baffin South
(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe it was yesterday that my colleague from Baffin made a statement about custom adoption. We introduced the bill because we wanted to make it simpler to custom adopt. My constituents in the Baffin region have had problems with adopting children. Many of us have run into obstacles with adoption. Maybe after we agree on the bill, it will become simpler to go through custom adoption. Up to now, there have been many problems with adoption. I just wanted to show support to my colleague. It isn't just her constituents who are having this problem. It is all over Nunavut that they encounter this problem. We have to have identification.
As we all know, no one will stop adopting. We just want the people who are responsible to be more careful with this. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
---Applause
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Problems With Custom Adoption Process
Item 3: Members' Statements
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Whitford .
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European Commission's Stance On Importation Of Canadian Furs
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 1230
Tony Whitford
Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning. Mr. Speaker, it was disappointing, to say the least, when members of the European commission adopted such a rigorous stance concerning the importation of Canadian furs. While I can't say I am surprised at their refusal to consider our views, I am sorry that they appear to be influenced by poorly informed, emotionally-based groups when making trade decisions. Unfortunately, this has led to the commission taking a judgemental stand on the issue, rather than forming an opinion based on objectivity and factual data.
It is frustrating that despite genuine efforts by our government representatives to reach a compromise and negotiate in good faith, the other parties appear to be using delay tactics.
In the meantime, our traditional fur industry and the livelihood of some of our people here are threatened by well-funded animal rights' groups who are largely ignorant of the real facts. I take issue, Mr. Speaker, with those who feel they have the right to dictate what constitutes cruelty and kindness for other people. This is a very complex subject that differs with particular circumstances and the cultural values of societies.
If we reacted in the same spirit, Mr. Speaker, it would be tantamount to our North American free-trade union banning trade with Spain until the end of their long tradition of bullfighting, or we could refuse to trade with Britain unless fox hunting was banned and abolished, and insist that France adopt a kinder method of transporting their calves and feeding of their poultry. Obviously this type of behaviour, especially at an international trade level, would be uncharacteristic of people from the Northwest Territories.
At the same time, however, representatives of different nations have to try to establish a common ground. Put simply, that is why our government held the recent meetings with members of the European commission.
I would like to conclude by congratulating the Honourable Silas Arngna'naaq , Mr. Lewis and other government officials, for representing the Northwest Territories in a gracious manner with attitudes that demonstrated our sense of fairness and our respect for the views of others. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
---Applause
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European Commission's Stance On Importation Of Canadian Furs
Item 3: Members' Statements
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you, Mr. Whitford . Item 3, Members' statements. Mrs. Thompson .
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Invitation To Ministers To Visit Aivilik
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 1231
Manitok Thompson
Aivilik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Since I have been elected for the Aivilik riding, I have learned how much the needs and concerns of the residents of Aivilik have been neglected in the past. Unfortunately, smaller communities have a difficult time making sure their voices are heard in Yellowknife. Because of this, they often do not receive a lot of attention and, as a result, they feel neglected by the government.
This is why the consultation process is so important to the people of my riding. They need to know that they matter; that the issues that are important to them will be discussed and that any problems they may have will be dealt with soon. To ensure that my constituents' concerns are being addressed, I am extending an open invitation to all Ministers of this government to take some time this summer and travel with me to meet and speak with the citizens of Aivilik.
(Translation) Mr. Speaker, I just wanted to make this statement because Aivilik citizens feel neglected. I will try to be a voice for them, so their concerns are dealt with as soon as possible and that we give more consideration for the people of Aivilik. They felt that they were ignored.
So for this summer, I extend an open invitation to all Ministers of this government and welcome them to travel with me this summer to meet with the communities and the citizens of these communities, and listen to their views. Their views need to be heard. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
---Applause
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Invitation To Ministers To Visit Aivilik
Item 3: Members' Statements
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you, Mrs. Thompson . Item 3, Members' statements. Mrs. Marie-Jewell .
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Congratulating Pwk High School Graduates
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 1231
Jeannie Marie-Jewell
Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I want to take the time to congratulate 23 graduates from PWK High School who graduated May 18th. Mr. Speaker, this graduation was quite significant in the community of Fort Smith because I believe it is the first time in history that they had a majority of aboriginal students graduating. Out of 23 graduates, 16 were aboriginal.
I also want to thank the Honourable Richard Nerysoo for attending such a significant event. I know the students, parents and the school appreciated his attendance. Mr. Speaker, I also want to thank the school, the staff, the principal and the parents, particularly, for giving the support to the students as they took each step of their grade school throughout the years.
Mr. Speaker, we know these students are going to be our future leaders and I am sure we made every effort to give them the keys to their success. It is now up to them to use their keys to open the doors that will allow them to be successful. I know that with the support they have been given, they will do that.
My congratulations to each student and my thanks to all who gave the support to make such an event happen. Thank you.
---Applause
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Congratulating Pwk High School Graduates
Item 3: Members' Statements
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you, Mrs. Marie-Jewell . Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Patterson .
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Globe And Mail
Article Re Federal Gun Control Legislation
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 1231
Dennis Patterson
Iqaluit
Mr. Speaker, buried in the Toronto Globe and Mail yesterday was a fascinating
article which injected a touch of reality in the overwhelmingly emotional gun control debate. The story documents the fact that, although the firearms control bill is on the verge of becoming law, no one has yet produced objective evidence that many of its key components will make Canada a safer place.
New Zealand discontinued its registry in 1983 after the national police reported that it was useless. Police in two Australian states have recommended dropping their gun registration programs because they can't enforce compliance.
Professor Gary Mauser, author of a recent Fraser Institute report that is highly critical of Mr. Rock's gun control bill, said the issue has more to do with votes than violence.
Since it is currently fashionable to equate firearms with violence, and there is an emotional crusade against firearms, especially in urban Ontario and Quebec, the government sees a political opportunity.
Professor Mauser says the government ignores evidence that violent crime is more closely linked to social breakdown and to economic and political factors, than to the availability of guns.
countries, less than half the gun owners and no more than 60 per cent of the guns get registered. The bill won't work.
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Article Re Federal Gun Control Legislation
Item 3: Members' Statements
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An Hon. Member
Hear! Hear!
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Article Re Federal Gun Control Legislation
Item 3: Members' Statements
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Dennis Patterson
Iqaluit
Professor Mauser says Minister Rock knows the bill won't work. His Justice department officials have told him and he still wants it. Why is Minister Rock imposing this unworkable legislation on this country? I got the answer from insiders in the Liberal Party of Canada -- I know a few.
---Laughter
Allan Rock wants to use this legislation to propel him as the prime candidate to replace the present Liberal Party leader when Mr. Chretien retires.
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Article Re Federal Gun Control Legislation
Item 3: Members' Statements
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Some Hon. Members
Ohh!
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Article Re Federal Gun Control Legislation
Item 3: Members' Statements
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Dennis Patterson
Iqaluit
So, have I got a deal for him. I'm prepared to endorse Mr. Rock as the best person to succeed Jean Chretien as Liberal Party leader if he'll just exempt the NWT from gun control.
So, let's hear it for Allan Rock for next leader of the Liberal Party of Canada!
---Laughter
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Article Re Federal Gun Control Legislation
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you, Mr. Patterson . Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Ng .
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Congratulating Kitikmeot Tep Graduates
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 1232
Kelvin Ng
Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Earlier this week I spoke on the grade 12 graduation ceremonies held to recognize and honour the first graduates from the Kugluktuk School in Coppermine and the Kullik High School in Cambridge Bay. Later today will be another historic event for the Kitikmeot as graduation ceremonies are being held this afternoon to honour the first 11 graduates from the Nunavut Arctic College's Kitikmeot teacher education program. These 11 graduates, who are now certified teachers, will be instructing children in the region during the next school year.
These graduates will use their experience and skills to contribute to the educational system in the NWT. They will also be role models for youth and children in showing that with desire and ambition any goal is attainable.
I would like to formally recognize and congratulate the five TEP graduates from my constituency: Ms. Mary Eetoolook, Ms. Mary Gillis, Ms. Jessie Lyall, Ms. Margaret Lyall, and Ms. Susie Ohokannoak for their achievements. At this time I would ask all Members to join me in congratulating and wishing all graduates the best of success in their future endeavours. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
---Applause
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Pollard .
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Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
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Page 1232
John Pollard
Hay River
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning. Mr. Speaker, I have a return to a question asked by Mr. Allooloo on June 8, 1995. It concerns the status and treatment of GLOs.
Mr. Speaker, all government employees laid off due to budget reductions, in Yellowknife and other communities, received the lay-off entitlements provided for in the collective agreement. In May 1995, new lay-off provisions were negotiated which replaced the existing lay-off provisions and the workforce adjustment program. The negotiations included settling all outstanding grievances related to the workforce adjustment program.
Minutes of settlement were signed with the Union of Northern Workers to apply the new lay-off provisions to the GLOs. In addition, the government liaison officers were given a further six-weeks' notice of layoff.
Mr. Speaker, if I might I have another one. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Further Return To Question 554-12(7): Criteria For The Workforce Adjustment Program
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Page 1232
John Pollard
Hay River
Mr. Speaker, it's the same subject with regard to criteria for the workforce adjustment program, asked again by Mr. Allooloo on June 8, 1995.
Mr. Speaker, in March 1995 the workforce adjustment program applied to employees whose positions were eliminated or relocated due to change in a department's structure, responsibilities or functions. It did not, Mr. Speaker, apply in cases where positions were altered or eliminated due to budget reductions.
Mr. Speaker, in May 1995, new lay-off provisions were negotiated with the UNW which replaced both the lay-off provisions in the collective agreement and the workforce adjustment program. Many of the benefits of the workforce adjustment program are now included in the lay-off provisions. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Return To Oral Question 536-12(7): Procedures For GNWT Laid-off Or Redundant Positions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Page 1232
Silas Arngna'naaq
Kivallivik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to an oral question asked by Mrs. Marie-Jewell on June 7th regarding procedures for GNWT laid off or redundant positions.
When a position is declared redundant and the department is unable to find alternate employment for the incumbent of that position, a formal letter of lay-off is issued. The letter provides at least three months' notice that employment will be terminated. Normally, the employee is required to work for those three months but that requirement may be waived at the discretion of the employee's deputy minister.
Mr. Speaker, I have a second return, if I might. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Page 1233
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Arngna'naaq .
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Return To Question 541-12(7): Provision Of GNWT Procedures To New Employees
Return To Oral Question 536-12(7): Procedures For GNWT Laid-off Or Redundant Positions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Page 1233
Silas Arngna'naaq
Kivallivik
Following appointment to a GNWT position, all employees attend a documentation session. In addition, they are invited to attend an information session which provides an orientation to the GNWT. During these sessions, new employees receive information about our government and its policies.
Bargaining unit employees receive a copy of the respective collective agreement but these books do not include such things as these policies.
Personnel staff are presently designing an information package which will be given to all prospective employees. I have asked that they include something in the package that will address the Member's concerns and ensure compliance with government procedures. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Page 1233
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Patterson .
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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
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Page 1233
Dennis Patterson
Iqaluit
Where is he? Where is he?
---Laughter
No, just kidding. Mr. Speaker, I am very pleased today to be able to recognize a former constituent, Mr. Troy Harper, who is now an architecture student working here for the summer with Mr. Gino Pin and his architectural firm. Thank you.
---Laughter
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Ballantyne .
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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
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Page 1233
Michael Ballantyne
Yellowknife North
Mr. Speaker, today I would like to recognize the designated hitter from the CBC dream team, Dave "Sweetness" Miller. According to Legislative Assembly slugger and RBI leader, Jeannie Marie-Jewell , the CBC can't hit the ball for love nor money. We believe that Sweetness Miller will turn the CBC team around and once again we will hear the
pure crack of the bat and the applause of their great fans here in the Legislative Assembly. Thank you.
---Laughter
---Applause
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Page 1233
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Patterson .
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Question 558-12(7): Financial Assistance For Liberal Fund-raising Dinner
Item 6: Oral Questions
Page 1233
Dennis Patterson
Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It being Friday, I have an important question for the Minister of Economic Development and Tourism . Mr. Speaker, according to a report I heard on the radio from an undoubtedly reliable source -- some Member of the NDP Party -- the Honourable John Todd used his good offices and funds of his department to finance a trip for two prominent Liberals to attend a fund-raising dinner which featured the Prime Minister of Canada, the Honourable Jean Chretien, in Edmonton.
I've just received an invitation to a fund-raising dinner in Yellowknife at the end of this month which will feature another very important Liberal, the Honourable Paul Martin. I know there are some very prominent Liberals in my riding who would love to be funded to come to that dinner and lobby for important projects in Iqaluit. So I would like to ask the Minister, since I know he's fair to all, generous to all and treats every MLA with equal respect, I wonder if the Minister would entertain funding the modest cost of travel for a couple of prominent Liberals in my riding to attend this fund-raising dinner and lobby for the constituency of Iqaluit. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
The Minister of Economic Development and Tourism , Mr. Todd .
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Item 6: Oral Questions
Page 1233
John Todd
Keewatin Central
I'll do even better than that, Mr. Speaker. I'll ensure that the two prominent Liberals who are in Iqaluit will have an opportunity to meet the Prime Minister early this month when he visits Iqaluit.
---Applause
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Item 6, oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Patterson .
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Item 6: Oral Questions
Page 1233
Dennis Patterson
Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am very impressed with the Minister's generosity. But I don't think they'll get a trip out of that one because I think the Prime Minister is coming to Iqaluit. I understand that there's going to be an important fund-raiser in Ottawa later this year which will feature the leader of the Conservative Party of Canada, the Honourable Jean Charest. I would like to ask the Minister if he would be prepared to fund two prominent members of the Conservative Party -- there are two of them in Iqaluit that I know of -- to take a trip to this fund-raising dinner in Ottawa.
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Mr. Todd .
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Item 6: Oral Questions
Page 1234
John Todd
Keewatin Central
(Microphone turned off)
---Laughter
Sorry, Mr. Speaker. It should be an interesting evening. You could probably hold it in a telephone kiosk.
---Laughter
No, I don't think it would be appropriate to invest any of our limited fiscal resources to meet with the Conservatives because they are not currently in power and probably will have no opportunity of being in power in the coming years. Thank you.
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Samuel Gargan
Item 6, oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Patterson .
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Item 6: Oral Questions
Page 1234
Dennis Patterson
Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaking of limited fiscal resources, I would like to ask the Minister, just out of curiosity, what task and activity within the department would be employed to fund such important lobbying activities at political party functions? Thank you.
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Mr. Todd .
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Item 6: Oral Questions
Page 1234
John Todd
Keewatin Central
I know it's Friday and we're supposed to be humorous, but I think it's important to address the issue because obviously Mr. Patterson , who frequently talks about the NDP, occasionally talks about the Conservatives and now is talking about the Liberals, wants a response.
The fact of the matter is that in 1992 there was a roads steering committee. It was set up in Fort Smith. This committee has been actively pursuing the need for additional money from the federal government to expand their road into Alberta which would bring about significant economic benefits to the people of the north. We funded two members of that committee to meet with the Prime Minister to see if he would move up on the priority list the requirement for a joint cooperative approach to the expansion of this highway. Thank you.
---Applause
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Pudlat .
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Question 559-12(7): Status Of Part-time Glo Positions
Item 6: Oral Questions
Page 1234
Kenoayoak Pudlat
Baffin South
(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As was mentioned earlier, the funding for the positions of government liaison officers in the communities was cut and they became half-time positions. In my communities, their positions were cut by half also, and the employees went to work only half of the day. Mr. Speaker, I would like to get an answer, perhaps from the Government Leader , as to what their status is now, as they were not given appropriate time to respond to their offers. What is the status to date? How many have not accepted those offers? Do you think this GLO funding cut has been successful?
I would like to ask the Premier how many of the communities have part-time GLOs and did communities lose their GLOs at all during this turnover? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Madam Premier .
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Nellie Cournoyea
Nunakput
Mr. Speaker, in recognizing the realities of restraint, the increased role departments are playing in regional communities and the increased abilities of the communities to tend to their own affairs, a total of 11 government liaison officer positions were flagged for reduction, from full-time to part-time, in the Executive offices main estimates on April 1, 1995. Two of these GLO positions were in the Keewatin region, while the remaining nine were in the Baffin region.
Amended job offers were issued to all 11 incumbent GLOs with a request to respond within a five-day period as to whether they wished to accept the amended offer of part-time employment or if the Government of the Northwest Territories should proceed with a lay-off action.
The two Keewatin incumbents responded to the job offer within the requested five-day period. The GLO in Arviat accepted the offer of part-time employment, while the GLO in Baker Lake chose to receive notification of layoff. None of the nine GLOs, having received part-time job offers in the Baffin region, responded with an acceptance of the offer.
Commitments have subsequently been received from the departments of Health and Social Services and Education, Culture and Employment to fund four part-time positions in some of the affected Baffin and Keewatin communities. Where applicable, amended job offers were made.
It's rather lengthy, but I can provide to the Members and circulate by community who has part-time offers and where they are shared with other departments and where the offers are, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
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Samuel Gargan
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Item 6: Oral Questions
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Kenoayoak Pudlat
Baffin South
(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to thank the Premier for her response. My supplementary is brief. In the Baffin, you were saying that there are some who haven't responded, so I wonder if you can give me an update
as to what has happened to date if they haven't responded to their offers? Thank you.
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Samuel Gargan
Madam Premier .
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Nellie Cournoyea
Nunakput
Mr. Speaker, as I have said in my reply, I will circulate to the Members community by community the exact status of each position. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Allooloo .
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Question 560-12(7): Departmental Responsibility For Glo Positions
Item 6: Oral Questions
Page 1235
Titus Allooloo
Amittuq
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Premier with respect to GLOs. I appreciate the answers that I have received from the government in terms of the reduction that took place that affected GLOs in the communities. I wonder if the Premier would be able to give me the services that GLOs provide to the departments. Which departments in our government contributed to pay for and accommodate GLOs in the communities in terms of paying their salaries and their benefits? Which departments will contribute to pay for them? Thank you.
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Samuel Gargan
Madam Premier .
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Nellie Cournoyea
Nunakput
Mr. Speaker, as I have indicated, I will provide a listing. In that listing will be a status of what the individual employee has done, what he has accepted; also, the reason why I indicated that I would provide that information and circulate it is because it is a bit lengthy and it also provides the information that the honourable Member has been asking for on which department has offered to share certain positions with the GLO. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Samuel Gargan
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Titus Allooloo
Amittuq
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate the Premier 's answer. The GLO would do work for all the departments, such as Social Services and Transportation -- in terms of issuing drivers' licences; vehicle permits; that sort of thing. Since the government contracts POL to private contractors, GLOs have to make reports to support what's happening in terms of oil being delivered to houses. As well, GLOs are expected to be part of Personnel with regard to interviewing, to set guidelines. With all of these departments requiring government work to be done in the community and expecting GLOs to participate, would they be able to contribute to the cost of having GLOs in the community? Thank you.
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Nellie Cournoyea
Nunakput
Mr. Speaker, if possible, I would like clarification. Is the Member seeking further information, in addition to what I had planned to distribute, about exactly what the GLO position is doing at this point in time, Mr. Speaker?
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Titus Allooloo
Amittuq
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is, would the departments that require work to be done in the communities and ask the GLOs to do it for them, be able to contribute to the cost of having a GLO in a community? Thank you.
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Nellie Cournoyea
Nunakput
Mr. Speaker, what I will do is provide further information, in addition to what I said I would provide on what exactly each position is doing. This is an Executive position. When we looked at the Executive's needs and what the positions would do for the Executive, the idea was that they would be half-time positions. However, all the departments were asked if there were additional needs so that they could finance the position further, to bring the positions up to full-time positions again. I will also provide that information, Mr. Speaker.
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Question 561-12(7): Minister's Visit To North American Art Symposium In New Mexico
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Brian Lewis
Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It takes many kinds of people to make a successful government, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Economic Development and Tourism . We all know that Mr. Todd is a very creative, artistic and spiritual person. So, I would like to ask the Minister if he was able to take advantage of the opportunity to visit Santa Fe, New Mexico, where a huge exhibition and convention on North American art took place in the month of May.
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, I was fortunate enough to spend three or four days in Santa Fe during the opening of this major art symposium, partially sponsored by the department, the Northwest Company and a few other northern companies. Thank you.
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Brian Lewis
Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister, since the arts and crafts industry in the Northwest Territories goes through cycles -- they go up and down and it's very difficult sometimes to plan the business because of the uncertainty of this field -- if there was representation from throughout the territories that he was able to observe while he was there in order to get a feeling about the way this industry is going.
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This launch of territorial art, both Dene and Inuit art, was co-sponsored by the department and the Northwest Company. I believe the launch cost somewhere in the neighbourhood of $590,000, of which we've contributed approximately $150,000, the balance being contributed by industry, et cetera. There was a cross
section of northerners there. There were some performers, some artists and, of course, there was strong representation by the Northwest Company. We brought in, from across the USA, 24 major art buyers and dealers.
There was significant involvement with the North American Indian Art Museum and we had the New Mexico government involved. I was told by those who have far more experience than I do, that this presentation at the art gallery saw the largest turnout and participation they had had since the gallery opened a number of years ago.
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Brian Lewis
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Since, as I pointed out in the beginning, our Minister is considered to be a creative individual and very perceptive, what did he learn about the future of this industry during his visit to Santa Fe?
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I guess why I'm encouraged by what we're doing here, is first of all, it was a partnership arrangement between industry and government. The government's role was to provide some seed funding and to leave the thing alone, in reality to leave industry to develop the market and to renew the marketing of arts across the Northwest Territories.
The gentleman involved who reports directly to the president of the new Northwest Company, Mr. Dennis Hillman, feels confident that he can, with this launch and with some other aggressive marketing, move towards $5 million in additional sales, over and above what we currently have right now, as a start in the next two to three years.
I think the other thing that was important, which we haven't done very successfully over the years, is to market western Dene art. I think it is something that has been a weakness of the department. I was encouraged by the fact that in Santa Fe, the major arts centre for Indian art, particularly for Navaho and Apache people, there was considerable interest in Dene Art. Joanne Barnaby was in attendance with her people. I think the seed money has been well spent. The industry has committed significant dollars to this venture and the Northwest Company has appointed Mr.
Hillman, who reports to the president and is making it a priority in terms of their marketing strategy in their network across Canada and North America.
We have put a monetary mechanism in place to determine what our return for investment will be in this important arts and crafts field. I've suggested to Mr. Hillman that we don't make this a one shot deal. We need to come forward with a multi-year approach to this program because it's important, whether you're in Fort Liard -- where we're going this weekend to open a new operation there -- or whether you're in Cape Dorset or Pangnirtung doing prints, that we move to renew the level of sales and revenues we had 10 years ago for northern art. Thank you.
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Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Whitford .
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Tony Whitford
Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have a question I would like to direct to the Minister of Economic Development, Tourism and Parks. It concerns the services to the campgrounds and parks in the territories. Some of my constituents visited some parks last weekend and they were concerned that where there used to be potable water available, there was no water. I would like to ask the Minister whether cost-saving initiatives have created a situation where water is no longer going to be provided at these campgrounds.
I think it's important to the visiting public to know this because they're getting water from the lake. I would like to ask the Minister whether water services to these parks have been discontinued.
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. No, I want to assure the honourable Member that if there was no potable water in some of these parks, it was probably due to an error in maintenance of the parks, and I will look into it. We recognize the importance of parks. I don't want to pick one park over another, but we know from some of the tracking we've done over the last two years that the parks on the highway system see significant occupation by people from outside of the Northwest Territories. We know that there are significant dollars left within the territories, and the importance that is to the economy and the country. I'll look into the matter the Member has rightly raised. Thank you.
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Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Mrs. Marie-Jewell .
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Question 563-12(7): Aircraft Services Used In Fighting Sahtu Forest Fire
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell
Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Premier ...Listening to the radio this morning, I noted there was an interview done with the Minister responsible for fire suppression. In that interview, he indicated what type of resources we were using. Looking through the request for proposals and trying to determine whether we're using all our resources, the Minister indicated we're only using one DC-4 to attack the fires in the Sahtu area. Can the Premier indicate to this House whether or not we're using all resources for land-based aircraft and fire suppression to address those fires in the Sahtu region? Thank you.
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Nellie Cournoyea
Nunakput
Mr. Speaker, it's my understanding that all the resources are deployed in the Northwest Territories. The resources that aren't being used in the Sahtu region are deployed in other parts of the Northwest Territories. I don't have the exact details, but the Minister, in a call last night, indicated that he did not want to take all the resources out of other areas that probably are very subject to a quick forest fire at this time with the dry season. So the resources are, if not deployed in Sahtu, in other parts of the Northwest Territories. Thank you.
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell
Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We all know that there are now two communities, and everyone knows that I'm concerned about the fire season this year. When communities are evacuated and a state of emergency is declared -- and it's my understanding they're near that state -- generally you call in other resources, whether they be from the south, whether they be the military or whatever. What other resources besides what the Northwest Territories has provided have been called in to assist addressing these fires in the Sahtu region? Thank you.
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Nellie Cournoyea
Nunakput
Mr. Speaker, I believe the statement by the Minister of Renewable Resources this morning did indicate that there were other resources brought in. Two more CL-215s are coming from Quebec. The Caterpillars working to establish a fireguard at Jackfish Lake are, I believe, local. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell
Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Premier provide to the Members of this House the types of resources that are addressing the fire issue in the Sahtu so we can tell if we're using all our resources or what areas they're in? I think in a situation like this, the government has to make every effort to use as many resources as possible, whether they be from the south or from the north, to address an emergency state. Thank you.
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Mr. Speaker, I will get that information and provide it. The question is taken as notice because I would have to get that information. Thank you.
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Question 564-12(7): Review Of Request For Proposals Re Bird Dog Aircraft Services
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell
Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a question to the Minister responsible for FMBS. I would like to know whether or not Mr. Pollard has received a letter with respect to doing a review on the request for proposals on the air tanker aircraft and Bird Dog aircraft services in the Northwest Territories. Has he received a letter requesting a review be done on this particular request for proposals? Thank you.
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John Pollard
Hay River
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I haven't received the letter myself. I understand that it went directly to the Audit Bureau in the Department of FMBS and they have forwarded it on to Mr. Voytilla. Yes, it has been received by the department, but not by myself personally. Thank you.
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell
Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm just wondering if Mr. Pollard could indicate whether the Audit Bureau is going to be doing a review on the request for proposals. Will he advise the House? Thank you.
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John Pollard
Hay River
Mr. Speaker, the Audit Bureau wasn't able to make a decision on what action was required in this particular request. As I said, they forwarded it to Mr. Voytilla. Mr. Voytilla advised me of it, I believe, two days ago. He's
looking at it and he's going to make some suggestions to me early next week, Mr. Speaker, so I'll have an update at that time. Thank you.
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Minister indicate to the House whether by next week he would be able to ensure the Audit Bureau can do a review on this request for proposals call?
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John Pollard
Hay River
Mr. Speaker, I can't second-guess what the department is going to tell me, but what I can tell the House is that a decision will be made next week whether we can or cannot do an audit in this particular regard. So there will be a definitive answer next week. Thank you.
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell
Thebacha
Thank you. Mr. Speaker, I don't think the Minister understood my question. I asked once a decision is made, can he advise the House whether or not there's going to be a review on that particular request for proposals. Will he advise the House of the decision? Thank you.
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Yes, I will, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
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Question 565-12(7): Payment For Accommodation At Kitikmeot Boarding Home
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Ludy Pudluk
High Arctic
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question will be directed to the Minister of Social Services . As I stated in my Member's statement, one of my constituents was refused accommodation at the Kitikmeot Boarding Home unless she paid to stay. The reason given was that her mother works for our government as a GLO. The GLO is not working full-time any more, thanks to the government. My question is, if the people who are employed are expected to pay at the boarding home, how much do they have to make a year before they start paying for their accommodation at the boarding home? Thank you.
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Nellie Cournoyea
Nunakput
Mr. Speaker, I'm not specifically familiar with this particular situation. Mr. Speaker, when an individual is brought out of the community for medical treatment, the Government of the Northwest Territories pays for the accommodation. However, I've asked the Member for the name of the individual and we'll proceed as quickly as possible to straighten out that issue. I hope that in a few minutes we'll be able to do that. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Question 566-12(7): Status Of Health Services In Nahendeh Region
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Jim Antoine
Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is directed to the Minister of Health . Mr. Speaker, I've raised many issues in this House in the past as a result of constituents' concerns, and none are more important that the issue concerning the health services in my region. Recently, the Liidli Koe First Nation of Fort Simpson released a report called "Culturally Appropriate Health Services in Fort Simpson." As a result, in the beginning of May, the Minister made a visit to Fort Simpson to meet with community people with regard to this report as well as the whole issue of health.
As a result of the meeting, there were some commitments made to deal with short-term concerns and goals this report identified. I would like to ask the Minister what has been done to date, as a result of the meeting? Thank you.
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Nellie Cournoyea
Nunakput
Mr. Speaker, at the meeting of the representatives in Fort Simpson, I committed that what we should do is take a two-tiered approach where we would make a list of the things we could do immediately and some of the issues that would take a little longer to reconcile. I said we would be willing to work with the representative group in Fort Simpson. The department has tentatively come up with a list that they felt they could deal with. However, for some reason, we haven't received the list from the representative group on the areas they felt were priorities to address in the short term.
Once session is concluded, I intend to try to get together again with the representative group. Departmental officials are in continual communication to find out if we can list the issues for the short term and for the long term. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Jim Antoine
Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the Minister for that commitment. During the meeting, there was also discussion about Mackenzie Regional Health Services. Currently, it is headquartered in Yellowknife with a number of
employees serving the Dogrib region as well as the Deh Cho region. There have been commitments made in this House with regard to taking these positions and putting them into the regions. I would like to ask the Premier the status of Mackenzie Regional Health Services' devolution into the regions. Thank you.
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Nellie Cournoyea
Nunakput
Mr. Speaker, that's one issue that the department has determined is possible to attain in the short term. We're proceeding to identify the positions and also talk to the people serving in Fort Simpson. We will attempt to make the necessary notifications to fulfil our obligations to the legislation governing labour standards. It is intended that those positions will be in place in early September. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Jim Antoine
Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The other issue I would like to ask the Minister about is with regard to a health board of some sort in the Deh Cho region. This has been discussed quite a number of times. The problems arising in the delivery of health services in my constituency seem to stem from lack of local decision-making with regard to health services. This comes down to the question of the board. What has the department done with regard to the development of a health board in the Deh Cho or the constituency of Nahendeh? Thank you.
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Nellie Cournoyea
Nunakput
Mr. Speaker, this is not just a one-sided approach to this issue. The community has to be involved. What we discussed at the meeting is in the initial transfer of health responsibilities to the Northwest Territories, there was funding for one board. However, because the Deh Cho has committed to combining a health and social services board, we probably would be able to combine those two responsibilities and move along with a representative agency for that area. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Question 567-12(7): Status Of Formula Financing And Incremental Division Funding Negotiations
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Michael Ballantyne
Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a question for the Minister of Finance . Mr. Speaker, yesterday I asked the Minister of Finance about the status of the formula financing agreement. There is another very important financial negotiation which should be taking place and is taking place, I hope, in conjunction with the formula financing agreement, and that is the incremental funding necessary for division of the territories. I wonder if the Minister of Finance can tell us how those two negotiations are coordinated? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Samuel Gargan
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John Pollard
Hay River
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we have tried to put incremental costs for the division of the Northwest Territories on the table at formula financing meetings and have been unsuccessful. The federal government is not particularly interested in discussing that at the present time, although they will tailor the agreement and make mention of the fact that division is going to occur. With regard to addressing the issue of incremental funding, at this particular time we have not been successful in convincing Mr. Martin of it's importance. We will continue to pursue the matter with the federal government, though. Thank you.
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Michael Ballantyne
Yellowknife North
Thank you. I know we have discussed this issue a number of times with the Minister of Finance , but I have some real concerns when the federal government talks about incremental funding when we have no idea what our base is going to be. So, it's really an irrelevant conversation until we know exactly what the base is. You can give us $30 to $50 million a year in incremental funding but if you take $100 million off the base, you're losing $70 million.
I wonder, in the meeting coming up soon with the federal Minister of Finance , if our Minister of Finance , Mr. Pollard , will again try to impress upon the Minister of Finance that we need some certainty as we go into division. Because if we don't have certainty as to our fiscal base and stability, we're going to have a lot of problems here in the Northwest Territories. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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John Pollard
Hay River
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Premier and I will be meeting with Mr. Martin. One of the issues that we will be raising with him, amongst others, is we see the division process taking place, we're all doing work, whether in ministries or in this Legislative Assembly. We're all moving in that direction, NIC is doing a lot of work, as is NTI. The move is on and there needs to be some certainty with regard to incremental funding.
I sympathize a little bit with the federal government because they say, how can we judge what the incremental funding is going to be when we don't know what the forms of government are going to be. But they need to be a little warmer than that on this incremental funding, so we will pursue it with Mr. Martin when he's here, the week of the 26th, I believe. Thank you, Mr.
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Question 568-12(7): Request For Extra Assistance To Fight Sahtu Forest Fire
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell
Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a question for the Premier . Mr. Speaker, I've been advised by individuals in the fire control office about fire suppression. I've been advised particularly about one issue that is quite disturbing. I've been told that prior to the fire getting out of control and becoming a danger to Fort Norman, there was a request to ask for extra bombers but apparently the deputy minister or the Minister's office refused that request. Could the Premier determine and correct if a request to ask for extra assistance for fire suppression was refused? Thank you.
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Nellie Cournoyea
Nunakput
Mr. Speaker, normally we don't, as Premier or a Minister at this level, get involved or have knowledge of those day-to-day operational requirements. It's generally handled by the people who are in the field. However, I can commit to find out an answer to that question. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Question 569-12(7): Waiving Employment Procedures For Fire Suppression Staff
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell
Thebacha
Thank you. I know Ministers d