Budget, Oral Questions, Health and Social Services — 23 November 1995 (13th Assembly, 1st Session, pp. 17–25)

1995-11-23, 13th Assembly 1st Session, pp. 17–25

Northwest Territories — Debates (Hansard)

Debates of Nov. 23rd, 1995

This is page numbers 17 - 25 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 1st Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was standing .

Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

The Passing Of Mr. Ed "cayuse" Lafferty

The Enforcement Of Federal Gun Control Legislation

Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

Rule Amendment - Establishment Of New Committee System

Appointment Of Chairman Of The Standing Committee On Government Operations

Motion: 6-13(1): Appointment Of Deputy Speaker

Appointments To The Standing Committee On Resource Management And Development

Appointments To The Standing Committee On Infrastructure

Appointments To The Standing Committee On Social Programs

Appointments To The Management And Services Board

Appointments To The Standing Committee On Rules And Procedures

Extended Adjournment

Serving Of Alcohol At Government Sponsored Functions

Rule Amendment - Establishment Of New Committee System

Appointment Of Chairman Of The Standing Committee On Government Operations

Motion: 6-13(1): Appointment Of Deputy Speaker

Appointments To The Standing Committee On Resource Management And Development

Appointments To The Standing Committee On Infrastructure

Appointments To The Standing Committee On Social Programs

Appointments To The Management And Services Board

Appointments To The Standing Committee On Rules And Procedures

Extended Adjournment

Item 22: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Hon. Jim Antoine , Hon. Goo Arlooktoo , Mr. Barnabas , Hon. Charles Dent , Mr. Enuaraq , Mr. Erasmus , Mr. Evaloarjuk , Hon. Sam Gargan, Mr. Henry , Hon. Stephen Kakfwi , Mr. Krutko , Mr. Miltenberger , Hon. Don Morin , Hon. Kelvin Ng , Mr. Ningark , Mr. O'Brien , Mr. Ootes , Mr. Picco , Mr. Rabesca , Mr. Roland , Mr. Steen , Hon. Manitok Thompson , Hon. John Todd

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Item 1: Prayer

Page 17

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Good afternoon. Orders of the day; item 2, Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Morin .

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The Passing Of Mr. Ed "cayuse" Lafferty

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 17

Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is with regret and sadness that today I mark the death of a respected elder and friend from Fort Resolution. Ed "Cayuse" Lafferty was born in Fort Resolution in October of 1922. He passed away yesterday after a brief illness. He is survived by his wife, Victoria, two brothers and one sister. He has nine children, 25 grandchildren and eight great-grandchildren. Ed married Victoria in 1946. They would have celebrated their 50th wedding anniversary in six weeks' time.

Ed ran dogs in his younger days and trapped most of his life. If anything can describe him, it was that he provided well for his family. Mr. Speaker, he will be sorely missed by his family and his community. I would ask Members to join with me in extending our sympathies and condolences to the family and friends of Ed "Cayuse" Lafferty of Fort Resolution.

I would just like the family to know that I will be there as soon as I can get there. Thank you.

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The Passing Of Mr. Ed "cayuse" Lafferty

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 17

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Rabesca .

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The Enforcement Of Federal Gun Control Legislation

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 17

James Rabesca

North Slave

Mr. Speaker, I am deeply disappointed that the gun control legislation will be enforced. We, the Dogrib people, always supported the Liberal Party, ever since the Chief Jimmy Bruneau days. Other Treaty 11 Council members and the chiefs lobbied against this legislation. I am concerned how this will affect our traditional hunts. These community hunts provided food for the families of the Dogrib communities. How will the act be implemented and enforced? I know there are many non-aboriginal people who also hunt caribou and moose to feed their families. They are also affected by the gun control legislation, just as we are.

It is our honour that while this has occurred, Canada won its fight to stop the European union from banning Canadian fur imports. I am disappointed that gun control legislation was not given the same fight for the trappers and hunters in the North and other parts of Canada.

The decision made by the powers that be in Ottawa threatens to make a contribution towards us losing our traditional way of life, as aboriginals in the North, and hunting for non-aboriginals from all walks of life, who have hunted for their families as well. They are taking our guns, our traps and our furs. Thank you.

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The Enforcement Of Federal Gun Control Legislation

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 17

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Are there any further Members' statements? Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Item 6, oral questions. Item 7, written questions. Item 8, returns to written questions. Item 9, replies to opening address. Item 10, petitions. Item 11, reports of standing and special committees. Item 12, reports of committees on the review of bills. Item 13, tabling of documents.

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Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

Page 17

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

In accordance with

Section 23 of the Official Languages Act, I wish to table Tabled Document 1-13(1), the third annual report of the Languages Commissioner of the Northwest Territories for the period April 1, 1994 to March 31, 1995.

Item 13, tabling of documents. Are there any further tabling of documents? We will proceed with item 14, notices of motion, after we take a break. There are, I believe, 15 notices that are going to be required. The translations haven't been completed for those motions, so we will take a break and come back at the ringing of the bells.

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Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

Page 17

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

The committee will come back to order. We're on item 14, notices of motion. Mr. Miltenberger .

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Motion 4-13(1): Rule Amendment - Establishment Of New Committee System

Item 14: Notices Of Motion

Page 17

Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, I give notice that on Monday, November 27, 1995, I will move the following motion:

I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Natilikmiot , that the rules of the Legislative Assembly be amended by:

Rescinding Rule 85 and substituting the following:

85(1) At its first sitting after a general election, the Assembly shall appoint a Striking Committee of four Members to report and recommend with all convenient speed, Members to comprise the following standing committees of the Assembly:

on Infrastructure;

on Resource Management and Development;

on Social Programs;

on Rules and Procedures;

and any other standing and special committees directed by the Assembly.

(2) The Standing Committee on Infrastructure shall consider the following matters with respect to the departments of Finance, Public Works and Services, Municipal and Community Affairs, Intergovernmental and Aboriginal Affairs, Executive, Personnel Secretariat, and the Financial Management Board Secretariat;

a) Review legislative and policy proposals, multi-year plans and budgets, bills, boards and agencies, public accounts and division issues;

b) Review departmental performance; and,

c) Consider any other matter referred by the House.

(3) The Standing Committee on Resource Management and Development shall consider the following matters with respect to the departments of Economic Development and Tourism, Renewable Resources, Transportation, Safety and Public Services, and Energy, Mines and Petroleum Resources:

a) Review legislative and policy proposals, multi- year plans and budgets, bills, boards and agencies, public accounts and division issues;

b) Review departmental performance; and,

c) Consider any other matter referred by the House.

(4) The Standing Committee on Social Programs shall consider the following matters with respect to the departments of Health and Social Services, Education, Culture and Employment, Justice and the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation:

a) Review legislative and policy proposals, multi-year plans and budgets, bills, boards and agencies, public accounts and division issues;

b) Review departmental performance; and,

c) Consider any other matter referred by the House.

(5) The Standing Committee on Rules and Procedures shall inquire into such matters as may be referred to it by the Legislative Assembly, the Speaker or the Management and Services Board.

And further, that Rule 85.1 be adopted as follows:

85.1(1) The chairperson and deputy chairperson of each of the standing committees on Infrastructure, Resource Management and Development, and Social Programs shall comprise the membership of the Standing Committee on Government Operations.

(2) The Standing Committee on Government Operations shall:

a) Review issues which have government-wide implications;

b) Consider items and issues referred from other committees and the House;

c) Conduct the overview of the budget and the fiscal framework;

d) Consider the budgets and financial management of boards and agencies that are outside the responsibility of any standing committee, including the office of the Legislative Assembly;

e) Examine the reports on the annual financial statements and public accounts of the Government of the Northwest Territories and the Report of the Auditor General;

f) Review the estimates and the financial status of the Government of the Northwest Territories to monitor compliance with the Deficit Elimination Act;

g) Allocate to any other standing committee its examination of any estimates and any review of departmental performance;

h) Recommend the appointment of the "Statutory Officers" of the Legislative Assembly; and,

i) Examine and consider the overall issues that affect the operation of the Government of the Northwest Territories relating to division and the creation of two territories.

(3) The Striking Committee appointed under 85(1) shall, prior to the selection of the chairpersons and deputy chairpersons referred to in 85.1(1), recommend the appointment of a Member as chairperson of the Standing Committee on Government Operations.

(4) The chairperson of the Standing Committee on Government Operations is not eligible to serve as the chairperson or deputy chairperson of the standing committees on Infrastructure, Resource Management and Development, and Social Programs.

(5) Notwithstanding Rule 90(3), the quorum for the Standing Committee on Government Operations shall be four Members and must include the chairperson and at least one representative, either the chairperson or deputy chairperson, of each of the standing committees on Infrastructure, Resource Management and Development, and Social Programs.

(6) The Standing Committee on Government Operations shall also have three alternates, one from each of the standing committees on Infrastructure, Resource Management and Development, and Social Programs. Alternates may be called upon by the chair to take the place of an absent committee Member. When participating in committee business, the alternate shall be entitled to vote on any matter.

And furthermore, that Rule 87(1) be amended by:

Striking out "85" following "pursuant to Rule" and substituting "85(1)."

And furthermore, that Rule 90(3) be rescinded and the following substituted:

90(3) The quorum of a committee shall be four Members.

And furthermore, that Rule 94(2) be rescinded and Rule 94(3) be renumbered as 94(2).

Mr. Speaker, at the appropriate time, I will be seeking unanimous consent to deal with my motion today. Thank you.

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Motion 4-13(1): Rule Amendment - Establishment Of New Committee System

Item 14: Notices Of Motion

Page 19

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 14, notices of motion. The Member for Iqaluit , Mr. Picco .

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Motion 5-13(1): Appointment Of Chairman Of The Standing Committee On Government Operations

Item 14: Notices Of Motion

Page 19

Edward Picco

Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, I give notice that on Monday, November 27, 1995, I will move the following motion: I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , that the honourable Member for Yellowknife North , Mr. Erasmus , be appointed as chairperson of the Standing Committee on Government Operations.

Mr. Speaker, at the appropriate time I will be seeking unanimous consent to deal with my motion today.

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Motion 5-13(1): Appointment Of Chairman Of The Standing Committee On Government Operations

Item 14: Notices Of Motion

Page 19

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 14, notices of motion. Mr. Enuaraq .

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Motion: 6-13(1): Appointment Of Deputy Speaker

Item 14: Notices Of Motion

Page 19

Tommy Enuaraq

Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I give notice that on Monday, November 27, 1995, I will move the following motion: I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Thebacha , that the honourable Member for Natilikmiot , Mr. Ningark , be appointed as Deputy Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, at the appropriate time, I will be seeking unanimous consent to deal with my motion today.

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Motion: 6-13(1): Appointment Of Deputy Speaker

Item 14: Notices Of Motion

Page 19

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 14, notices of motion. Mr. Henry .

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Motion 7-13(1): Appointments To The Standing Committee On Resource Management And Development

Item 14: Notices Of Motion

Page 19

Seamus Henry

Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, I give notice that on Monday, November 27, 1995, I will move the following motion: I move, seconded by the honourable Member for the High Arctic , that the following Members be appointed to the Standing Committee on Resource Management and Development:

1. Kevin O'Brien

2. Mark Evaloarjuk

3. David Krutko

4. Jake Ootes

5. James Rabesca

And further, that the following Members be named alternates to the Standing Committee on Resource Management and Development:

1. Tommy Enuaraq

2. Roy Erasmus

3. Edward Picco

Mr. Speaker, at the appropriate time, I will be seeking unanimous consent to deal with my motion today.

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Motion 7-13(1): Appointments To The Standing Committee On Resource Management And Development

Item 14: Notices Of Motion

Page 19

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 14, notices of motion. Mr. Erasmus .

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Motion 8-13(1): Appointments To The Standing Committee On Infrastructure

Item 14: Notices Of Motion

Page 19

Roy Erasmus

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I give notice that on Monday, November 27, 1995, I will move the following motion: I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Thebacha , that the following Members be appointed to the Standing Committee on Infrastructure:

1. Levi Barnabas

2. Jane Groenewegen

3. Seamus Henry

4. Edward Picco

5. Vince Steen

And further, that the following Members be named alternates to the Standing Committee on Infrastructure.

1. David Krutko

2. John Ningark

3. Jake Ootes

Mr. Speaker, at the appropriate time, I will be seeking unanimous consent to deal with my motion today.

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Motion 8-13(1): Appointments To The Standing Committee On Infrastructure

Item 14: Notices Of Motion

Page 19

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 14, notices of motion. Mr. Picco .

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Motion 9-13(1): Appointments To The Standing Committee On Social Programs

Item 14: Notices Of Motion

Page 19

Edward Picco

Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, I give notice that on Monday, November 27, 1995, I will move the following motion: I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , that the following Members be appointed to the Standing Committee on Social Programs:

1. Tommy Enuaraq

2. Roy Erasmus

3. Michael Miltenberger

4. John Ningark

5. Floyd Roland And further, that the following Members be named alternates to the Standing Committee on Social Programs:

1. Levi Barnabas

2. Jane Groenewegen

3. James Rabesca

Mr. Speaker, at the appropriate time, I will be seeking unanimous consent to deal with my motion today.

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Motion 9-13(1): Appointments To The Standing Committee On Social Programs

Item 14: Notices Of Motion

Page 20

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 14, notices of motion. Mr. Erasmus .

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Motion 10-13(1): Appointments To The Management And Services Board

Item 14: Notices Of Motion

Page 20

Roy Erasmus

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I give notice that on Monday, November 27, I will move the following motion: I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Baffin Central , that the following Members be appointed to the Management and Services Board of this Assembly:

1. Honourable Sam Gargan

2. Honourable Kelvin Ng

3. Kevin O'Brien

4. Floyd Roland

5. Vince Steen

And, Mr. Speaker, at the appropriate time, I will be seeking unanimous consent to deal with my motion today.

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Motion 10-13(1): Appointments To The Management And Services Board

Item 14: Notices Of Motion

Page 20

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 14, notices of motion. Mr. O'Brien .

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Motion 11-13(1): Appointments To The Standing Committee On Rules And Procedures

Item 14: Notices Of Motion

Page 20

Kevin O'Brien

Kivallivik

Mr. Speaker, honourable colleagues. Mr. Speaker, I give notice that on Monday, November 27, I will move the following motion: I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , that the following Members be appointed to the Standing Committee on Rules and Procedures:

1. Honourable Charles Dent

2. Mark Evaloarjuk

3. Seamus Henry

4. Michael Miltenberger

5. John Ningark

And further, that the following Members be named alternates to the Standing Committee on Rules and Procedures:

1. Tommy Enuaraq

2. David Krutko

3. Vince Steen

And, Mr. Speaker, at the appropriate time, I will be seeking unanimous consent to deal with my motion today.

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Motion 11-13(1): Appointments To The Standing Committee On Rules And Procedures

Item 14: Notices Of Motion

Page 20

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 14, notices of motion. Mr. Ningark .

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Motion 12-13(1): Extended Adjournment

Item 14: Notices Of Motion

Page 20

John Ningark

Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good afternoon. Mr. Speaker, I give notice that on Monday, November 27, I will move the following motion: I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Thebacha , that notwithstanding Rule 4, that when the House adjourns on Thursday, November 23, 1995, it shall be adjourned until Wednesday, December 13, 1995;

And further, at any time prior to December 13, 1995, if the Speaker is satisfied, after consultation with the Executive Council and Members of the Legislative Assembly, that the public interest requires that the House should meet at an earlier time during the adjournment, the Speaker may give notice and thereupon the House shall meet at the time stated in such notice and shall transact its business as it has been duly adjourned to that time.

And, Mr. Speaker, at the appropriate time, I will be seeking unanimous consent to deal with my motion today. Thank you.

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Motion 12-13(1): Extended Adjournment

Item 14: Notices Of Motion

Page 20

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 14, notices of motion. Mr. Ootes .

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Motion 13-13(1): Serving Of Alcohol At Government Sponsored Functions

Item 14: Notices Of Motion

Page 20

Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to give notice that on Monday, November 27, 1995, I will move the following motion: I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Thebacha , that this Legislative Assembly adopts the policy that alcohol should not be used at government or Legislative Assembly events and no public funds should be used to purchase or provide alcohol.

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Motion 13-13(1): Serving Of Alcohol At Government Sponsored Functions

Item 14: Notices Of Motion

Page 20

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Just as a reminder to the new Members with regard to process, I would just ask the Members to raise their hands to be recognized before they get up. Item 14, notices of motion. Item 15, notices of motions for first reading of bills. Item 16, motions. Mr. Miltenberger .

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Motion 13-13(1): Serving Of Alcohol At Government Sponsored Functions

Item 14: Notices Of Motion

Page 20

Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I indicated previously, I seek unanimous consent to deal with my motion today regarding rule amendment - establishment of new committee system. Thank you.

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Motion 13-13(1): Serving Of Alcohol At Government Sponsored Functions

Item 14: Notices Of Motion

Page 20

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

The Member for Thebacha is seeking unanimous consent. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Proceed, Mr. Miltenberger .

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Motion 4-13(1): Rule Amendment - Establishment Of New Committee System, Carried

Item 16: Motions

Page 20

Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

WHEREAS the Legislative Assembly has chosen to adopt a new committee structure;

AND

WHEREAS the standing and special committees of the Legislative Assembly are set out in the rules of the Legislative Assembly; At this point, Mr. Speaker, as I have already read the resolution portion previously, may I seek unanimous consent to have my motion deemed to be read and printed in the Hansard?

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Motion 4-13(1): Rule Amendment - Establishment Of New Committee System, Carried

Item 16: Motions

Page 21

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

The Member for Thebacha is seeking unanimous consent to have his motion deemed as read into the record. Are there any nays? There are no nays.

NOW THEREFORE I MOVE, seconded by the honourable Member for Natilikmiot , that the rules of the Legislative Assembly be amended by:

Rescinding Rule 85 and substituting the following:

on Infrastructure;

on Resource Management and Development;

on Social Programs;

on Rules and Procedures;

and any other standing and special committees directed by the Assembly.

a) Review legislative and policy proposals, multi-year plans and budgets, bills, boards and agencies, public accounts and division issues;

b) Review departmental performance; and,

c) Consider any other matter referred by the House.

a) Review legislative and policy proposals, multi-year plans and budgets, bills, boards and agencies, public accounts and division issues;

b) Review departmental performance; and,

c) Consider any other matter referred by the House.

a) Review legislative and policy proposals, multi-year plans and budgets, bills, boards and agencies, public accounts and division issues;

b) Review departmental performance; and,

c) Consider any other matter referred by the House.

(5) The Standing Committee on Rules and Procedures shall inquire into such matters as may be referred to it by the Legislative Assembly, the Speaker or the Management and Services Board.

AND FURTHER, that Rule 85.1 be adopted as follows:

85(1) The chairperson and deputy chairperson of each of the standing committees on Infrastructure, Resource Management and Development, and Social Programs shall comprise the membership of the Standing Committee on Government Operations.