Debates of March 24th, 1992

This is page numbers 410 - 439 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was building .

Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

Ministers' Statement 38-12(2): Recent Developments On National Constitutional Reform

Contract Signed In

1992 Arctic Winter Games Results

1992 Arctic Winter Games Hodgson Trophy

Ministers' Statement 42-12(2): Canadian Council Of Ministers Of Environment

Ministers' Absences From

Community Justice Workshop

Recognition Of Fort Providence Pages

Financial Situation Of Government

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Question O332-12(2): Acting Government Leader

Question O333-12(2): GNWT Involvement In Kitty Reynolds Case Review

Question O334-12(2): Policy On Sale Of Government Owned Staff Houses

Question O335-12(2): Statement Pilot Project Extension Of Victim Impact

Question O336-12(12): Response To Question W13-12(2)

Question O337-12(2): GNWT Support To NWT Contractors In Russia

Question O338-12(2): Native Constable For Lake Harbour

Question O339-12(2): Husky Rental Units

Question O340-12(2): Government Houses For Sale In Inuvik

Question O341-12(2): Changes To NWT Act In Federal Parliament

Question O342-12(2): Municipal Planning Engineer, Fort Smith

Question O343-12(2): Rental Of Houses Built Prior To 1960

Question W28-12(2): Victim Impact Statement Pilot

Question O344-12(2): Transfer Of Municipal Planning Engineer From Fort Smith To Yellowknife

W18-12(2): Trip By Department Of Health Staff

W13-12(2): Government Housing For Sale, Fort Smith

W16-12(2): Trip By Department Of Public Works Staff

W17-12(2): Trip By Department Of Education Staff

W19-12(2): Trip By Department Of Economic Development And Tourism Staff

W26-12(2): Aboriginal Employment Statistics With GNWT

Second Reading Of Bill 25: Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 1991-92

Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Item 19: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Revert To Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 21: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Mr. Arngna'naaq , Mr. Arvaluk , Hon. Michael Ballantyne , Mr. Dent , Mr. Gargan , Hon. Stephen Kakfwi , Mr. Koe , Mr. Lewis , Mrs. Marie-Jewell , Hon. Don Morin , Mr. Nerysoo , Hon. John Ningark , Hon. Dennis Patterson , Hon. John Pollard , Mr. Pudlat , Mr. Todd , Hon. Tony Whitford , Mr. Zoe

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Good afternoon, and welcome back. Orders of the day for Tuesday, March 24, 1992. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Ministers' statements Mr. Kakfwi .

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Ministers' Statement 38-12(2): Recent Developments On National Constitutional Reform

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I would like to advise the House of some recent developments on the National Constitutional Reform. As Members know, the Joint Parliamentary Committee on a Renewed Canada tabled its report in Parliament on February 28th. It was made public on March 1st. This report was the culmination of many months of public hearings and constitutional conferences that had examined 28 proposals put forward by the federal government in a discussion paper in September 1991.

The joint parliamentary committee report contained over 40 recommendations, and the federal government had initially announced that it would attempt to refine these recommendations into a constitutional resolution or some other form of federal response by April 15th.

Under pressure from several provinces, Minister Clark called a meeting on March 12th to discuss a process by which multilateral discussions could lead to a consensus package of reforms that could be considered by Quebec and other provinces. I attended this meeting, and I am pleased to report today that one of the conclusions was that aboriginal and territorial delegates will be included in all public and private meetings on constitutional negotiations over the next few months. This was a significant change of policy for the federal government and for some of the provincial governments.

A second outcome of that meeting was an agreement to conduct an intensive series of officials' and Ministers' meetings over the next 10 weeks in an attempt to work out the details of a final constitutional package that would be acceptable to provinces, territorial and aboriginal organizations as well as to the federal government. The deadline for completion has been set at May 31st. It was felt that a package of reforms had to be available for Quebec to consider in advance of that province's setting its question for an October referendum on sovereignty.

Last Thursday, March 19th, the first officials' meeting was held to organize the work for the next few weeks. Four working groups of officials have been established to examine various issues. The intention is to have these officials identify and clarify issues to assist Ministers and First Ministers in developing the final consensus package. The working groups started work yesterday in Toronto and will carry on meetings over the next few days. As I said, Mr Speaker, the significant part of these working groups is that they include federal, provincial, territorial and aboriginal delegations. At this stage

of the process, officials have not received any mandate to negotiate agreements of any sort. Mr. Speaker, your special committee on constitutional reform will be preparing its interim report on the national reform process over the next few weeks, with the intention of making recommendations to the Assembly on these issues. Thank you.

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Ministers' Statement 38-12(2): Recent Developments On National Constitutional Reform

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Ministers' statements. Mr. Morin .

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Minister's Statement 39-12(2): Contract Signed In

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Russia

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Minister's Statement 39-12(2): Contract Signed In

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is with considerable pleasure today that I have the opportunity to announce in this House that a northern company has signed a major contract to design and construct a town in the former USSR.

The Department of Public Works has, during that time, cochaired with the USSR Minister for State Construction, GOSSTROI, the northern construction theme, one of four themes under the program. Following from their initial visits under the program, Ferguson Simek and Clark has undertaken to pursue further private ventures in the Republic of Yakut, which is in the far north of the Russian republic. With the assistance by the Government of the Northwest Territories, and in particular the advice and services of our director of circumpolar affairs, Mr. Walter Slipchenko, in Ottawa, Mr. Simek has been able to establish a joint venture.

Members have perhaps read in the local media that the joint venture company already has under construction a small wilderness hotel. The project has involved a number of other northern companies, and I am advised that the project is now in its final stages of completion and will soon be open for business.

Following this first success, Mr. Simek, with the assistance of the Department of Public Works, has been able to negotiate a contract to construct an entire town near the city of Yakutia. During these negotiations, the Minister of Public Works was very much involved in securing the confidence and approval of the republic's president. Last year, the Hon. Nellie Cournoyea , accompanied by the then Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs , the Hon.

Tom Buffers, visited Yakutia, where she signed a protocol with the president of the republic, That protocol outlines a co-operation between the governments of the Northwest Territories and the Republic of Yakutia which has allowed Ferguson Simek and Clark to strike this deal. The project will involve the joint efforts of several northern companies and the Department of Public Works. The municipal infrastructure and housing will be designed to NWT standards, using many of the plans and specifications developed through our capital programs.

Mr. Speaker, this success is but one example of how the government, and in particular Public Works, is working with the northern construction industry to advance their goals and objectives. It also indicates that our northern construction industry is maturing, and, as it does, they will look beyond our own jurisdictions for opportunities. Ventures such as these offer significant opportunity for Northerners, and the Government of the Northwest Territories must do what it can to preserve and assist in these opportunities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 39-12(2): Contract Signed In

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Ministers' statements. Mr. Patterson .

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Minister's Statement 40-12(2): 1992 Arctic Winter Games Results

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, the 1992 Arctic Winter Games have just been completed in Whitehorse, Yukon. As Minister responsible, I am pleased to provide Members of the Assembly with highlights on our NWT team's participation in this premier circumpolar sport and cultural event.

Mr. Speaker, our team of nearly 308 athletes with supporting coaches and mission staff brought home a total of 93 ulus: 25 gold, 33 silver and 35 bronze.

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Athletic excellence, combined with fair play, are qualities to be encouraged and recognized in our young people. The following athletes won gold ulus at the 1992 Arctic Winter Games and deserve special mention:

Tim Angotingoar of Chesterfield Inlet for Arctic sports, head pull; Heather Kolit of Coral Harbour for the one foot high kick; Tommy lquiyuituuq of Pelly Bay for the Alaskan high kick and one foot high kick; Julie Oolayou of Lake Harbour for the one foot high kick and two foot high kick; Manny Buckley of Hay River Reserve for the finger pull and stick gambling; Lloyd Lamouelle of Rae-Edzo for the stick push and stick gambling; Freddy Tinqui of Rae-Edzo for stick gambling; Charlie Quitte of Rae-Edzo for stick gambling; Christie Elliot of Coppermine for badminton doubles; Melanie Langill of Coral Harbour for badminton doubles; the Kevin Koe rink of Yellowknife for curling; and Amber Ruben of Fort Smith for figure skating; the open women's hockey team, with athletes from Inuvik, Fort Smith, Yellowknife, lqaluit, Hay River, Lac la Martre, Rankin Inlet and Arviat; the open co-ed silhouette rifle team, with athletes from Yellowknife, Inuvik, Enterprise and the Hay River Reserve; Jaida Green, Fort Smith, three gold ulus in snowshoeing; Warren Magrum, Hay River, two gold ulus in snowshoe biathlon; John Kidd, Hay River, two gold ulus in snowshoe biathlon; the open junior snowshoe biathlon; team with athletes from Fort Smith and Hay River, The bantam mens hockey team with athletes from Hay River, Yellowknife, Enterprise, Fort Smith and Baker Lake.

In addition to these athletes, I am sure Members of the House will join me in congratulating the other 68 NWT medal winners and all members of Team NWT for their excellent performances and the effort they put into making us all proud. Mr. Speaker, I will be tabling a complete list of all the medal winners later this session, as soon as it is translated. Thank you.

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Minister's Statement 41-12(2): 1992 Arctic Winter Games Hodgson Trophy

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, on Saturday, March 21st, at the closing ceremonies of the 1992 Arctic Winter Games, the Northwest Territories was awarded the highest honour that can be given, the coveted Hodgson Trophy. This trophy is awarded by the Arctic Winter Games Corporation and voted on by all teams for the unit best exemplifying fair play and good sportsmanship. Of the many things that make the Arctic Winter Games unique, this recognition by our northern peers is perhaps the most cherished.

Mr. Speaker, this is the first time since the Hodgson Trophy was first awarded in 1978 that the Northwest Territories has won the award. The original trophy is a delicate piece of artwork with soapstone base and narwhal tusk and is placed in the permanent care of staff at the Northern Heritage Centre in Yellowknife. The winning unit receives a large framed photo of the trophy to keep on display in their unit.

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Minister's Statement 41-12(2): 1992 Arctic Winter Games Hodgson Trophy

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Thank you, Mr. Patterson . That is much nicer than the fish you brought into the Assembly previously. Ministers' statements. Mr. Ningark .

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Ministers' Statement 42-12(2): Canadian Council Of Ministers Of Environment

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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John Ningark

Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Last week I travelled to Vancouver to attend the spring meeting of the Canadian Council of Ministers of Environment. Although the council has existed for 10 years, this is the first time that Yukon and the Northwest Territories have had full status. I believe this is an important step to assist our government to work with other jurisdictions to keep the Arctic environment healthy.

While at the meeting, I was able to gain the co-operation of several other Ministers on transboundary issues. The Ministers of Environment for Yukon, British Columbia and Alberta all agreed to get back to work on developing the bilateral transboundary water agreements. These are important to protect the Liard, Mackenzie and Peace-Athabasca-Slave Rivers. I also met with the Saskatchewan Minister of Environment. We both agreed that the draft bilateral agreement between Saskatchewan and the Northwest Territories is now complete. Saskatchewan will also share its monitoring information on the abandoned uranium mines on Lake Athabasca.

The British Columbia Minister of Forestry travelled to Vancouver to discuss with me the effects of logging on Fort Liard trappers. Unfortunately, trappers cannot be compensated because British Columbia has no compensation program. We did agree on a process to ensure that, in the future, trappers will have an opportunity to comment on proposed logging plans. As well, BC Forestry will advise the Department of Renewable Resources about logging plans near the territorial border.

I was pleased with the co-operation that was offered by all the Ministers that I met. I would like to thank the previous Minister of Renewable Resources , Titus Allooloo , who helped to set up many of the initiatives that I am now completing.

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Ministers' Statement 42-12(2): Canadian Council Of Ministers Of Environment

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Minister's statements. Mr. Pollard .

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Minister's Statement 43-12(2): Ministers' Absences From

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

The House

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Minister's Statement 43-12(2): Ministers' Absences From

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, the Hon. Nellie Cournoyea will be absent from the House today and tomorrow to attend a First Ministers' Conference on the Economy. The Hon. Titus Allooloo will be absent all week to attend meetings with TFN in Pond Inlet, Igloolik and Hall Beach regarding the plebiscite. I will be absent from the House March 26th and 27th to meet with the Hon. Tom Siddon to discuss the health billing dispute, the formula funding agreement and municipal grants in lieu of taxes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 43-12(2): Ministers' Absences From

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Ministers' statements. Mr. Patterson .

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Minister's Statement 44-12(2): Community Justice Workshop

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to report to the House upon a community justice workshop hosted by the community of Fort McPherson on the weekend of March 7th and 8th. Some 60 people participated in the intensive two-day workshop, which included representatives from Tuktoyaktuk, Inuvik, Aklavik, Arctic Red River and Fort Good Hope. The community also invited Chief Judge Robert Halifax and Judge Brian Bruser of Inuvik, along with senior officials from my department and the corrections division of the Department of Social Services.

A news release issued by the conference outlines the participation of elders from Fort McPherson who described eloquently the changes in social order and social controls among the Gwich'in people in this century.

Last year, Fort McPherson initiated a community justice committee to give advice and recommendations to Judge Bruser, the regional judge of the territorial court, on meaningful and relevant sentences for offenders before the court. For example, their advice has already resulted in successful land-based programs under the supervision of Gwich'in elders. The conference identified a broad range of additional functions the committees can perform as a networking, communication and referral agency throughout the justice system.

Mr. Speaker, I am very encouraged by these community initiatives, which have been strongly supported by the territorial court. A community justice committee has formed in Tuktoyaktuk, and interest has been expressed by Aklavik and Fort Good Hope, to name just a few of the communities in the West which are beginning to join in efforts to make the administration of justice more culturally-relevant, community based and locally accountable. Similar initiatives are forthcoming in the East, again with strong support from Judge Beverley Browne, the regional judge of the territorial court in lqaluit.

To date, the committees have performed largely unfunded volunteer efforts. My department and the corrections division of the Department of Social Services are undertaking consultations with communities on how best to support their efforts, along with other related initiatives such as the justices of the peace program. In the long term, I believe that such community programs will play a key role in reducing the incredible pressures on our policing, courts, legal aid and prison systems.

It may allow us to redirect funds toward local institutions with both the responsibility and the ability to change the behaviour which has put our people so frequently in conflict with the law, and restore the social controls which

were a traditional strength.

Mr. Speaker, I wish to thank Chief James Ross and the local organizers of the conference for their enthusiasm and for the hospitality extended to community and government participants in the conference. Thank you.

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Minister's Statement 44-12(2): Community Justice Workshop

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Gargan .

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Recognition Of Fort Providence Pages

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to introduce, to Members, four young boys from my constituency who are taking a break from school this week. Most schools had a break last week, but for some reason it is this week that these boys, standing beside you, Mr. Speaker, are taking a break,

I would like to introduce them to you. Starting from my right over on this side, Tommy Gargan, is from Fort Providence --are all from Providence -- and his mom and dad are Tommy and Linda; his dad works as a supervisor for Evergreen Forestry; his mom works at The Bay, Northern Store. Next to Tommy is Rodney Bonnetrouge; Rodney's mom and dad are Ronald and Shirley; Ronald works for the Housing Corporation, and Shirley also works there; Harry Joe Landry is the one to your right, Mr. Speaker, and Harry has a famous dad, who is Johnny Landry, a musician and Harry's mom works at the senior citizens' home. On the far right, Mr. Speaker, is Solomon Gargan, and Solomon is my son.

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His mom works for the Housing Corporation, too.

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I want to express my appreciation to you, Mr. Speaker, and the Clerk, for allowing the opportunity for these boys to come over here to earn some money for this week. Of course, these boys have done everything I have told them to do.

---Laughter

They all play hockey, and they are also looking forward to going home and spending all their hard-earned cash on the heavy dates that are ahead of them.

Lastly, the boys are staying with me, and so far they have put up with my cooking and they have been well-behaved. I wish the boys well, and I hope that they enjoy themselves here in Yellowknife. Mahsi cho.

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Recognition Of Fort Providence Pages

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

All Members join Mr. Gargan in welcoming the boys here to our Assembly. Members' statements. Mr. Zoe .

Member's Statement On Correction Re T-Line

Developments Limited

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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Henry Zoe

North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to make a correction with respect to a question I addressed to the Minister of the NWT Housing Corporation on Wednesday, March 4. In that question I indicated that the government had run into problems with a company called Treeline Construction Limited, and that this company had failed to pay its creditors. In fact, Mr. Speaker, the company in question was not Treeline

Construction Limited, but T-Line Developments Limited. T-Line Developments Limited is a company that operated for a short period of time in the NWT as a northern storefront operation. It is now bankrupt and many northern businesses, unfortunately, lost money in their dealings with T-Line Developments Limited. Mr. Speaker, I just wanted to make this correction for the record. Mahsi.

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Members' statements. Mr. Todd .

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Financial Situation Of Government

Item 3: Members' Statements

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today, refreshed and revived after a short break in the Keewatin.

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During the break I actually spent most of the time answering the phone and speaking with many of my constituents and, in fact, talking to other constituents across the Territories about a number of issues that concern them. One issue that arose time after time during these conversations was the uncertainty of people about the current financial situation of this government. People are unsure about what is happening. All they hear about from the government is that we are in a precarious financial situation.

I, too, am concerned, both as an MLA and as chairman of the standing committee on finance, in the way in which we are handling the current financial crunch. All we hear is the talk of down-sizing, postponing projects, and reducing the size of government. As a result, people are uncertain about what the future holds. Consumers are not spending and investors are not investing. The result is that our economy is being assaulted by the lack of confidence.

Mr. Speaker, I do not want to make light of the problems we are facing. They are important issues and they are troubling issues. However, I believe it is essential that the government also accentuates the positive; what we are going to do to reduce our deficit; how are we showing investors that the NWT is still a good place to invest; and what we are doing to ensure growth and stability in our economy. Or, as my good friend Jim Antoine said, what initiatives are we taking to develop our northern resource base.

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Financial Situation Of Government

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Members' statements. Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Returns to oral questions. Mr. Ningark .

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Return To Question O318-12(2): Consideration Of Sparrow Case In New Wildlife Conservation Act

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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John Ningark

Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have a return to Question O318-12(2), asked by Mr. Nerysoo on March 12, 1992. Several years ago the Department of Renewable Resources with assistance from the Department of Justice, reviewed the Sparrow case. The review confirmed that the department's legislation, policies and management practices were consistent with the court decision and that no changes were required.

Since the new Wildlife Conservation Act reflects the existing Wildlife Act, which is consistent with the Sparrow case, no special amendments were needed. Thank you.

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Return To Question O318-12(2): Consideration Of Sparrow Case In New Wildlife Conservation Act

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Thank you. Returns to oral questions. Mr. Whitford .

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Return To Question O270-12(2): Number Of Youth Justice Committees In Nwt

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to Question O270-12(2), asked by Mrs. Marie-Jewell on March 5, 1992. There are 28 youth justice committees operating across the Northwest Territories with several others in development, in the developmental stage.

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Return To Question O271-12(2): Funds Granted To Youth Justice Committees

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

I have a return to Question O271-12(2), asked by Mrs. Marie-Jewell on March 5, 1992. The 28 youth justice committees which exist in the Northwest Territories are financially supported by an overall youth community programs budget of $296,000 within the corrections services division and through the actions of community corrections specialists located in the regions.

Mr. Speaker, operating in the Baffin Region there are 12 committees with an overall budget of $30,000; in Fort Simpson there are two; in Fort Smith there is one; in Inuvik there are four; in the Keewatin Region there are three; in the Kitikmeot there are five; and in Yellowknife there is one. Thank you.

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Question O332-12(2): Acting Government Leader

Item 5: Oral Questions

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a question for the Minister of Finance who is the House Leader for cabinet. In the absence of the Hon. Nellie Cournoyea and in the absence of Mr. Allooloo , can he advise this House who will be taking their questions as notice if the Members want to ask questions to them?

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John Pollard

Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will take those questions, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

With that, Mr. Speaker, can I ask the Minister of Finance , is he the acting Government Leader ?

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No, Mr. Speaker.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

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Mr. Speaker, would the Minister of Finance be able to advise this House as to who is acting Government Leader ?

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John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, I am chairing cabinet on behalf of the Government Leader at the present time. She has instructed me to take questions on behalf of Mr. Allooloo and herself, and there is no acting Government Leader at the present time.

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Question O333-12(2): GNWT Involvement In Kitty Reynolds Case Review

Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 414

Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On April 11, 1991, I made a Member's statement to the 11th Legislative Assembly regarding the shameful treatment of Kitty Nowdluk-Reynolds by the Justice system. Honourable Members in this House may recall that I also made reference to this disgraceful episode during our first session on December 12th when I spoke against the victimization of native women.

Mr. Speaker, I have learned that a public review of RCMP conduct in this matter has been convened in lqaluit. I am aware of the specific matters relating to evidence before this inquiry may be considered sub judice and cannot be raised under the rules of this House. Therefore, I will refrain from commenting on the case itself until after the review has been completed by the public complaints panel.

I do not know Ms. Reynolds personally and she is not one of my constituents. However, I do want to state my strong personal support for her efforts to seek justice and wish her success in obtaining her objective. I am also interested in our government's status through this process and have a question to the Minister of Justice . Can the Minister of Justice advise this House whether the Government of the NWT has formal standing in this important review?

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Mr. Speaker, is this government providing any kind of technical assistance to support the woman, including legal consultation and resources to herl

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, to my knowledge, no assistance is being provided, nor was it requested.

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am certain this public complaints process can be emotionally stressful for anyone involved bringing claims against the RCMP. Is the Minister of Justice able to assure this House that appropriate professional support and personal assistance will be provided to Ms. Reynolds if she requests it as part of his department's service to victims of crime?

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, I will have to take that question as notice and get back to the Member tomorrow on that.

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Question O334-12(2): Policy On Sale Of Government Owned Staff Houses

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. A question to the Minister of Personnel . On February 27, 1992 the Minister made an annoucement about cabinet's decision to sell government owned staff houses in Yellowknife, Hay River and Fort Smith. My question is, does this new policy or program apply to any other communities than the three mentioned in this statement?

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Mr. Minister.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, as I indicated at the time of the announcement the offer was made just to the three specific communities. Thank you.

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

I am aware that in the last few weeks in Inuvik offers or counter-offers have been made to employees of the government. Under what program or policy has the sale of houses been made or offers been made in Inuvik?

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I believe that this may be as a result of an initiative that was taken, I think, back in November of 1990, to offer to sell certain units to employees who had responded to a survey, and that this is moving toward finalizing the initiative that was taken up at that time. Thank you.

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

In that same statement of February 27, the Minister announced, and I quote, "The initiative is the first phase of a long-term staff housing strategy." My question is, what is your time table for this strategy? When can we in the House see the results or a strategy?

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I had indicated in February that the long-term strategy would be provided to this Legislature in June. Thank you.

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Under the current initiatives, how many houses have been sold or how many offers has the government received and accepted under this latest initiative?

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Sahtu

I do not have that readily available to me. I will have to take it as notice.

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Question O335-12(2): Statement Pilot Project Extension Of Victim Impact

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This question is for the Minister of Justice . On July 3, 1991, the 11th Assembly's Minister of Justice announced a pilot project that would provide services enabling victims of crime to make a victim impact statement for consideration by the courts. The pilot project was to involve the RCMP in nine NWT communities, and Yellowknife was not one of the communities identified for participation in the pilot project. Mr. Speaker, will the Minister advise the House whether there are plans to extend the scope of this project to include other communities?

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Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes. Thank you.

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wonder if the Minister could give us a time line for that extension to other communities.

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, the expansion of initiatives like that will depend on the finalization of the budget

in my department and the RCMP budget. So I would expect that it would be part of the O and M budget discussions that we will be having when the Assembly resumes to look at the O and M budget in June or July. Thank you.

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Mr. Speaker, initially this program was planned to be evaluated after a period of 18 months. Is the Minister now telling the House that it is being considered to be implemented for all communities in the NWT within the next budget year?

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

No, Mr. Speaker, I am not intending to say anything of the kind; only that the continuation of existing programs and their expansion will be dependent on the finalization of the budget of the Department of Justice. I am not in a position today to prejudge the outcome of those budget discussions, I think I will have a better idea when the O and M budget for my department is presented to this Assembly, just what kind of latitude there might be to expand programs like that in the coming fiscal year. Thank you.

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Minister consider making the expansion of this program to communities which are not served by it, a priority, and attempt to actively seek the funding to ensure that it can be expanded as quickly as possible?

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, I have yet to receive a report, even a preliminary one, on the success of that particular initiative. I will base my judgments on whether or not it should be given priority status within my budget on the success of the program. If the Member has advice for me about its importance I would be most interested in that advice. But having not yet received an evaluation, I am not in a position to state today whether or not it would be a priority.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask a question to the Minister of Personnel in respect to the sale of housing. On March 2nd I asked the Minister of Personnel a written question in regard to clarification on the sale of housing in Fort Smith. As of today I have still not received a reply. When does the Minister anticipate he will reply to my written question?

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

It was filed today.

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to congratulate the Minister of Public Works on the statement about the contracts in Russia and the initiatives taken by some of our Northwest Territories' companies or so-called Northwest Territories' companies. The initiatives show that our companies have capabilities and can do international jobs. My concern is on the financial aspects, and it is not clear from the statements the Minister made as to whether or not this government has provided any financial support for these companies in these initiatives.

Can the Minister state whether or not the Government of the NWT has given any financial support to these companies in regard to the contracts in Russia?

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My understanding is that the Department of Public Works, Government of the NWT, did not assist the companies financially. One advantage for Ferguson Simek Clark when they did travel to Russia, because the USSR wanted to deal government to government, was that they did need government people there as protocol. That is the advantage they got. So it did cost this government money to travel there.

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Is the Government of the NWT providing any guarantees or any securities on the contracts in Russia?

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Don Morin

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. No.

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Question O338-12(2): Native Constable For Lake Harbour

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Kenoayoak Pudlat

Baffin South

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister of Justice a question. I made a statement last week about whether there would be a replacement for a constable in Lake Harbour and that there be a native constable available to the community. Has the Minister had a chance to think about if the present constable retires will he have a replacement?

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Mr. Minister.

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, I cannot give the Member an answer today. But I do welcome his support for aboriginal police officers. Last year there was a quota of seven positions in the NWT for the aboriginal constable development program, and I certainly will make every effort to

assist that community, especially if they can identify persons from Lake Harbour who are willing to become police officers, but I have not, as of today, been able to determine what is or is not possible for that community in the coming year.

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Question O339-12(2): Husky Rental Units

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask a question to the Minister of DPW. I have been advised that the Department of Public Works has acquired leases with a company called Husky rentals -- I do not know if it is the company name or if the units are called Husky rental units. I would like to ask the Minister of DPW if he knows for what length of time these leases are in effect.

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Can I get the Member to clarify the question? Where is this?

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

In Fort Smith.

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Don Morin

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will take the question as notice.

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Question O340-12(2): Government Houses For Sale In Inuvik

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

A question to the Minister of Personnel regarding staff houses for sale. Are there any government houses for sale to employees in Inuvik?

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I would have to take the question as notice, as I am not currently aware of what the situation is in regard to the initiative that was taken a couple of years ago.

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Question O341-12(2): Changes To NWT Act In Federal Parliament

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Justice . Just before the break we moved with indecent haste to pass an amendment to the Official Languages Act on the understanding that the federal government would move very quickly on it. Could the Minister indicate to the House at what stage this amendment to the federal legislation is in, in the federal Parliament?

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, I should know the answer to that question but I do not, and I apologize to the Member for that. I will have to get back to him as soon as I can.

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Question O342-12(2): Municipal Planning Engineer, Fort Smith

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, I have a question for the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs . I have been advised over the break that there is a position being centralized from the Fort Smith regional office into Yellowknife; basically, the position being a municipal planning engineer. Would the Minister advise me whether he is aware of this intention to centralize this position?

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Dennis Patterson

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Yes. I am aware of the issue the Member alludes to.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, can the Minister advise me as to why this position is being transferred into Yellowknife?

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Dennis Patterson

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Mr. Speaker, I would want to be very clear with the honourable Member that for certain operational reasons the incumbent in that job is being transferred to Yellowknife where that person can get better support from my department. It is the individual that is being transferred and not the position. I do not see this as a centralization as much as a redeployment of an individual for specific operational reasons. Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

So, can the Minister clarify that the position, municipal planning engineer, will remain in Fort Smith and it is only the individual involved that is being transferred to Yellowknife?

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

That is correct as the Member describes it.

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Michael Ballantyne

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Question O343-12(2): Rental Of Houses Built Prior To 1960

Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 417

Kenoayoak Pudlat

Baffin South

(Translation) My question is directed to the Minister of the Housing Corporation . The houses that were built in the early 1960s are not able to be rented. The houses built prior to that -- would the people be able to buy the houses?

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Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Morin .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

There is a program where people who are living in northern rental units, the older units built in the early 1960s, can make application to the Housing Corporation to purchase those units and also a portion of their rent would go to the purchase price of that unit. I can get the Member more detailed information by the end of the day on that program.

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Michael Ballantyne

Oral questions. Item 6, written questions. Mr. Dent .

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Question W28-12(2): Victim Impact Statement Pilot

Item 6: Written Questions

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Project

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Question W28-12(2): Victim Impact Statement Pilot

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have the following written question for the Minister of Justice . Would the Minister provide the House with a

summary of the number of victim impact statements prepared by the RCMP and/or Government of the NWT Department of Justice over the duration of the pilot project in each of the following communities: Rae-Edzo Coppermine, Hay River, Fort Resolution, Aklavik, Norman Wells, Rankin Inlet, Pond Inlet and Sanikiluaq?

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Michael Ballantyne

Written questions. Mrs. Marie-Jewell .

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to return to oral questions.

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent to return to Item 5, oral questions, Are there any nays? There are no nays, proceed.

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Question O344-12(2): Transfer Of Municipal Planning Engineer From Fort Smith To Yellowknife

Revert To Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 417

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to direct my question to the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs . A few minutes ago the Minister advised me that the position, municipal planning engineer, the individual would be transferred to Yellowknife and not the position. However, I have a copy of a letter sent to the individual which indicates that "your position" would be transferred to Yellowknife. Will the individual or the position be transferred to Yellowknife?

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Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Patterson .

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, the individual is being transferred, not the position.

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Michael Ballantyne

Supplementary Mrs. Marie-Jewell .

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, is the letter sent from the deputy minister of Municipal and Community Affairs to the individual involved incorrect in stating that the position will be transferred?

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Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Patterson .

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, I do not know what is in the letter. I suspect it is a privileged communication, and without having it in front of me I cannot, and will not, comment on whether it is correct or not. I would like to emphasize to the honourable Member that this arrangement has been explained to me as a temporary arrangement being made for operational reasons relating to that particular employee, and it is not intended to be a permanent arrangement which would deprive the region on a permanent basis of that position. So, Mr.

Speaker, the honourable Member should not be concerned that this represents an erosion of the support that would ordinarily be available to the region in the engineering field. However, there are good reasons for moving this particular individual at this particular time, and it should be seen in that context as a temporary operational arrangement. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mrs. Marie-Jewell .

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, it is fine for the Minister to indicate that I should not be concerned about a position being sent to Yellowknife and that it is only the individual involved that is being sent to Yellowknife. The concern that I have, Mr.

Speaker -- and I am not too sure whether the Minister has taken my question under notice -- is that I have a document from the deputy minister of his department indicating that, effective May 4th "your position will be transferred to Yellowknife," and it does not state, "you will be transferred to Yellowknife." It states, "your position will be transferred," and I have not received clarifications from the Minister, so I cannot take assurance that the position will not be transferred when the documentation advises otherwise. Can the Minister clarify this issue for me?

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Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Patterson .

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Well, Mr. Speaker, I have not seen the letter the Member has, and therefore I will have to take the question as notice. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Question has been taken as notice. Oral questions.

Item 6, written questions. Item 7, returns to written questions. Mr. Whitford .

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W18-12(2): Trip By Department Of Health Staff

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to Question W18-12(2), asked by Ms. Mike on March 2nd. It is regarding Department of Health staff duty travel from lqaluit to Broughton Island. The hospital pharmacist from the Baffin Regional Hospital was invited to fill a vacant seat on the February 24 and 25 Department of Public Works air charter between Iqaluit and Broughton Island. This opportunity enabled the pharmacist to inspect and review the supply of pharmaceuticals maintained at the health centre.

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Michael Ballantyne

Returns to written questions. Mr. Clerk.

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W18-12(2): Trip By Department Of Health Staff

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Clerk Of The House

Mr. David Hamilton

Mr. Speaker, return

to Question W8-12(2), asked by Mr. Nerysoo to the Government Leader regarding tendering process in the lnuvik Region; return to Question W13-12(2), asked by Mrs. Marie-Jewell to the Minister of Personnel concerning government housing for sale in Fort Smith; return to Question W16-12(2), asked by Ms. Mike to the Minister of Public Works concerning the Department of Public Works staff duty travel from lqaluit to Broughton Island; return to Question W17-12(2), asked by Ms.

Mike to the Minister of Education concerning Department of Education staff duty travel from lqaluit to Broughton Island; return to Question W19-12(2), asked by Ms. Mike to the Minister of Economic Development and Tourism concerning the Department of Economic Development and Tourism staff duty travel from lqaluit to Broughton Island; return to Question W26-12(2), asked by Mr. Nerysoo to the Minister of Personnel concerning aboriginal employment statistics within the Government of the Northwest Territories.

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W18-12(2): Trip By Department Of Health Staff

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Clerk Of The House

Mr. David Hamilton

Hon. Nellie Cournoyea 's return to Question W8-12(2), asked by Mr. Nerysoo on February 20, 1992: In response to the written question asked by Mr. Nerysoo , the MLA for Mackenzie Delta, on the rules and procedures used during the public tendering process in the Inuvik Region, I had officials review the tendering process over the past year and my response to his question is as follows:

1) I am not aware of any problems or concerns with the public tendering process in the lnuvik Region.

2) The standard procedures for tendering contracts are used in the Inuvik Region in accordance with the government contract regulations.

3) Clear guidelines and rules are already in place, and they are applied equally and fairly to all government tender calls, contracts and to contractors in the Inuvik Region, and they also take into consideration any special arrangements with the aboriginal people within the region.

4) The present government tendering guidelines are being applied consistently and fairly to all contracts and contractors in the Inuvik Region.

5) All the present tendering rules and guidelines have been applied equally to all contracts and contractors in the Inuvik Region.

6) There have been no recent changes to the present tendering guidelines or rules,

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W13-12(2): Government Housing For Sale, Fort Smith

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Clerk Of The House

Mr. David Hamilton

Hon. Stephen Kakfwi 's return to Question W13-12(2), asked by Mrs. Marie-Jewell on March 2, 1992: The Department of Personnel, in conjunction with the Department of Public Works, has been authorized to proceed with the level I community sale program. The community of Fort Smith has a total of 49 detached units. Of the 49 units, nine are currently occupied by employees. Length of service for these employees varies from eight months to 10 years. Of the 40 remaining units, 17 units are vacant, 21 units are occupied by trainees and students from other communities and two units are assigned on charity leases.

The detailed breakdown of houses, including location and the length of service of occupants, is attached.

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W16-12(2): Trip By Department Of Public Works Staff

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Clerk Of The House

Mr. David Hamilton

Hon. Don Morin 's return to Question W16-12(2), asked by Ms. Mike on March 2, 1992: Five DPW employees travelled from lqaluit to Broughton Island on February 24 and 25 to attend the final inspection of the new school and gymnasium project. This five million dollar project had been built for the client Departments of Education and the Municipal and Community Affairs by PCL Constructors Northern Inc.

Typical takeover procedures for major projects were conducted, including tests of major building systems to ensure proper operation and consultations with community and school staff to ensure that they fully understand the operation of the building. This was the first inspection of the building since the GNWT took occupancy in April, 1991 when seasonal and other deficiencies were still outstanding. The final inspection was also conducted to make sure that all these deficiencies had been completed by the contractor.

The five employees and their responsibilities were as follows:

1) The Baffin regional superintendent was responsible for operating and maintaining the facility with regional O and M staff. This person needed to see the facility for the first time; 2) The regional electrician was responsible for training the local O and M staff on the electrical operation of the building. This person needed to review the facility in conjunction with the headquarters electrical technical officer;

3) The headquarters electrical technical officer was responsible for ensuring that DPW electrical standards were incorporated into the design and construction. This person attended the final inspection to ensure that all systems were installed and operating as intended;

4) The headquarters mechanical technical officer was responsible for ensuring that DPW mechanical standards were incorporated into the design and construction. This person attended the final inspection to ensure that all systems were installed and operating as intended;

5) The headquarters project manager was responsible for contract administration. This person was required to coordinate all inspections and consultations and to approve final payment to the contractor.

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Clerk Of The House

Mr. David Hamilton

Hon. Titus Allooloo 's return to Question W17-12(2), asked by Ms. Mike on March 2, 1992: One staff member of the Baffin Divisional Board of Education in lqaluit travelled to Broughton Island by charter aircraft on February 24 and 25, 1992. This trip was at the invitation of the Department of Public Works and at no cost to the divisional board of education. The purpose of the trip was to attend the final inspection of the new school and gymnasium project in Broughton Island.

While in Broughton Island, the education official also met with the community education council to discuss the school community counsellor position.

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W19-12(2): Trip By Department Of Economic Development And Tourism Staff

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Page 418

Clerk Of The House

Mr. David Hamilton

Hon. John Pollard 's return to Question W19-12(2), asked by Ms. Mike on March 2, 1992: The area economic development officer, AEDO, from Broughton Island was informed by the Department of Public Works that a charter would be leaving lqaluit on February 24, 1992, to Broughton Island. On that date, the AEDO had been in lqaluit on duty travel. As this was considered the most cost effective means of returning home, the AEDO went by DPW's charter.

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W26-12(2): Aboriginal Employment Statistics With GNWT

Item 7: Returns To Written Questions

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Clerk Of The House

Mr. David Hamilton

Hon. Stephen Kakfwi 's return to Question W26-12(2), asked by Mr. Nerysoo on March 9, 1992:

1) The Government of the Northwest Territories presently employs 2080 aboriginal people, or about 34 per cent of the total number of 6123 employees.

2) It is not possible to tell how many aboriginal employees the government has recruited since the affirmative action policy was implemented. Our competition information system is now being improved to provide this information from this point onwards.

However, when the native employment policy was implemented in 1985, aboriginal people in the public service numbered 1138, which was approximately 30 per cent of the total number of employees. When the affirmative action policy was introduced in 1989, a total of 1613 employees were aboriginal people, which represented 31 per cent of the total number at that time.

In 1987, a total of 1454 employees were aboriginal people, or approximately 32 per cent of the total government work force.

a)The breakdown of present aboriginal employees by

department is attached.

b) The breakdown of present aboriginal employees by region is: Baffin, 427; Inuvik, 306; Fort Smith, 505; Keewatin, 259; Kitikmeot, 168; headquarters, 415; for a total of 2080.

3) The present government, which took office in October of 1991, has recruited 146 native people out of a total of 371 employees recruited for the entire period, broken down as follows: October 1991, 47; November 1991, 31; December 1991, 16; January 1992, 25; February 1992, 27; for a total of 146.

4) It is not possible to provide a breakdown of the numbers of deputy ministers, assistant deputy ministers, regional directors, and assistant regional directors recruited since 1987.

However, it is possible to provide the number of aboriginal employees who occupied management positions for each of the years since 1987: 1987, 21, which is nine per cent of total management staff; 1988, 25, which is 10 per cent of total management staff; 1989, 28, which is 10 per cent of total management staff; 1990, 32, which is 10 per cent of total management staff; 1991, 54, which is 14 per cent of total management staff.

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