Oral Questions — 17 December 1991 (12th Assembly, 1st Session, pp. 143–180)
1991-12-17, 12th Assembly 1st Session, pp. 143–180
Northwest Territories — Debates (Hansard)
Debates of Dec. 17th, 1991
This is page numbers 143 - 180 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 1st Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.
The word of the day was ---agreed .
Topics
Members Present
Item 1: Prayer
Ministers' Statement 20-12(1): Grants To Dene Bands To Prepare For Community Transfers
Ministers' Statement 21-12(1): Aboriginal Peoples' Inherent Right To Self-government
Television Northern Canada
Ministers' Statement 23-12(1): Report Of The Task Force On Legal Aid
Ministers' Statement 24-12(1): Fire Prevention Videos
Mlas' Involvement In Capital Planning Process
Involvement Of Ordinary Members In Capital Planning Process
Canadian Airlines International As Corporate Partner In Expo '92
Passing Of David Ovinqayak
Hiring Northerners
Medal Of Bravery Award To Clem Paul
Summit Of Inuit Leaders, Iqaluit
Brian Lewis' Role In "dreams And Visions"
Going Home For Christmas
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Question O134-12(1): Number Of NWT Health Boards
Question O135-12(1): Permanent Day-care Policy
Question O136-12(1): Possibility Of Pulling Out Of Expo '92 Commitments
Question O137-12(1): Plans For Encouraging Economic Development In Baffin
Question O138-12(1): Funding For Outfitting Courses
Question O139-12(1): People Who Die Without Wills
Question O140-12(1): Rental Rate Structure Applied By NWT Housing Corporation
Question O141-12(1): Defining "principally Engaged" Re Hunters' And Trappers' Claims For Workers' Compensation
Question O142-12(1): Term Of Voluntary Salary Cuts
Question O143-12(1): Franchise Agreements Between Power Corporation And Communities
Question O144-12(1): Removal Of Hunters And Trappers From Workers' Compensation Coverage
Question O145-12(1): Criteria For Filling A Position
Question O146-12(1): Savings Realized Through Restraint Measures
Question O147-12(1): Hiring Of Deputy Minister Of Economic Development And Tourism
Question O148-12(1): Status Of Deputy Minister Of Economic Development And Tourism Position
Question O149-12(1): Sale Of GNWT Housing To Employees
Question O150-12(1): Increased Spending Authority At Regional Level
Question O151-12(1): Open Competition For Deputy Minister Positions
Question O152-12(1): Violation Of The Oath Of Office And Secrecy
Question O153-12(1): Savings From 90-day Restraint
Question W13-12(1): Workers' Compensation Board "principally Engaged" Policy
Question W14-12(1): Death Of Clem Sassie
Item 7: Returns To Written Questions
W3-12(1): Funding To Native Women's Organizations
W6-12(1): Age Requirement For Old Age Pensions
W7-12(1): Department Of Government Services Tendering Policies
Mr. Koe's Reply
Mrs. Marie-jewell's Reply
Mr. Nerysoo's Reply
Mr. Lewis's Reply
Committee Report 4-12(1): Report Of The Standing Committee On Finance
Item 11: Tabling Of Documents
Item 17: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Bill 1: Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1991-92
Bill 2: Borrowing Authorization Act
Bill 3: The Adoption Of The French Version Of Statutes And Statutory Instruments Act
Item 18: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 19: Third Reading Of Bills
Item 20: Orders Of The Day
Members Present
Hon. Titus Allooloo , Mr. Antoine , Mr. Arngna'naaq , Mr. Arvaluk , Hon. Michael Ballantyne , Mr. Bernhardt , Hon. Nellie Cournoyea , Mr. Dent , Mr. Gargan , Hon. Stephen Kakfwi , Mr. Koe , Mr. Lewis , Mrs. Marie-Jewell , Ms. Mike , Hon. Don Morin , Mr. Nerysoo , Hon. John Ningark , Hon. Dennis Patterson , Hon. John Pollard , Mr. Pudlat , Mr. Pudluk , Mr. Todd , Hon. Tony Whitford , Mr. Zoe
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Item 1: Prayer
Item 1: Prayer
Page 143
The Speaker
Michael Ballantyne
Good Afternoon. Orders of the day for Tuesday, December 17, 1991. Item 2, Ministers' statements. The honourable Member for Nunakput .
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Ministers' Statement 20-12(1): Grants To Dene Bands To Prepare For Community Transfers
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 143
Nellie Cournoyea
Nunakput
We have stated on numerous occasions that this government is determined to transfer significantly more authority, responsibility and resources to communities. However, it is not just a matter of what and how much we transfer to a community. It is also a matter of to whom.
In the case of communities above the treeline, we can predict that in most cases the institution accepting the transfer will be the local, public, community government. However, the issue in Dene communities is far more complex. Chiefs and band councils have been the traditional self-governing structure of Dene communities at least since the signing of Treaties 8 and 11 in 1899 and 1921 respectively. They are also institutions recognized by the federal Indian Act.
Despite the establishment of public municipal bodies in many Dene communities in recent years, the chief and band council have remained a vital and important institution, and they will continue to play an important role in the future.
Ministers had the opportunity to attend portions of the Dene leadership in Rae last month. On behalf of the government, Minister Stephen Kakfwi expressed to the chiefs our sincere desire to improve our relations with the Dene Nation and each chief and to find ways we can work together co-operatively over the next four years. Mr. Kakfwi described our community transfer initiative, restated our recognition of an aboriginal right to self-government, and expressed our belief that aboriginal self-government can best be implemented in the North within the context of a public government system.
He invited the chiefs to accept our offer of co-operation and to consider ways Dene bands might participate in the community transfer initiative.
As a follow-up to this offer, I am pleased to announce that a grant will be provided to each band council in the Northwest Territories...
---Applause
...to assist it to prepare itself for discussions about community transfers, including the continuing role of the chief and band council. The grants are for the remainder of this fiscal year, and the total amount of $233,360 will be divided among the 21 bands and five sub-bands.
Many communities in the North have expressed a desire to assume more powers and responsibilities. We want to make real progress in this direction, and we are optimistic that Dene communities will find ways to take full advantage of the opportunities that more authority at the community will provide. Thank you.
---Applause
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Ministers' Statement 20-12(1): Grants To Dene Bands To Prepare For Community Transfers
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 143
The Speaker
Michael Ballantyne
Ministers' statements. Mr. Kakfwi .
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Ministers' Statement 21-12(1): Aboriginal Peoples' Inherent Right To Self-government
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 143
Stephen Kakfwi
Sahtu
Mr. Speaker, efforts to determine the meaning of aboriginal self-government in the Northwest Territories will require the participation and co-operation of Dene, Metis, Inuvialuit, Inuit and non-aboriginal people, as well as the federal and territorial governments. These efforts will be essential if we are to find solutions which fulfill aboriginal peoples' right to self-government, yet are suitable and practical in our unique environment.
Past Legislative Assemblies took the position that aboriginal self-government in the North should be realized within the context of public government. By public government we simply mean a government that represents and serves all residents in the North, whether they be aboriginal or non-aboriginal. Our government continues to hold this view. While no one can predict with certainty what this concept will become in practice, the self-government framework agreement in the Gwich'in final claim agreement indicates the direction we think aboriginal self-government negotiations could take.
Clearly, aboriginal self-government within a public government system does not just mean participation in public government institutions. However, the overall structure of government, including aboriginal and public bodies, must be a practical and fiscally responsible system protecting aboriginal rights while, at the same time, respecting the rights and needs of all its citizens.
We have stated very clearly during this session that our government is committed to transferring significant levels of authority and resources to communities to enable them to set priorities and make the very best possible use of the moneys available. We are also prepared to make every effort to incorporate aspirations for aboriginal self-government into policies and a process for implementing community self-government.
There is no point in our pursuing an approach to community self-government that ignores aboriginal self-government only to find we have to revisit the entire process in the wake of a newly entrenched constitutional right. It makes far more sense for us to assume that such a right will be entrenched in the near future and to incorporate aspirations for aboriginal self-government into the development of the community transfer strategy which we will be presenting to the Legislative Assembly in March.
Last week, this House passed a motion to establish a special committee on constitutional reform to deal with the upcoming round of national constitutional discussions. One of the most important elements of the federal proposals for amending the Canadian Constitution is a call for the entrenchment of an aboriginal right to self-government. Many aboriginal groups argue strongly that the amendment should state aboriginal people have an inherent right to self-government, which is to say that the right pre-dates the Constitution of Canada and is not dependent upon the constitution for its validity.
The Government of the Northwest Territories accepts this view. Aboriginal peoples of the North practised self-government long before there was a country called Canada, and they continue to hold an aboriginal right to exercise self-government to this day. In this sense, aboriginal peoples have a natural or inherent right to self-government which must be recognized in the Constitution of Canada. However, a simple statement that aboriginal people have such a right still begs the question of exactly what that right means.
In the view of this government, an inherent right to self-government does not mean a sovereign, independent nation state. Aboriginal groups are nations within a nation, and aboriginal people are citizens of Canada. Nor do we see a right to self-government as meaning that each aboriginal group has the ability to determine unilaterally what powers it will exercise over which peoples living on which lands. We all live too close together and depend on each other too much for this approach to be practical.
It is a fairly straightforward proposition for this government and the Legislative Assembly to support the entrenching in the Canadian Constitution of an inherent aboriginal right to self-government. Our challenge will be to figure out how aboriginal self-government will be exercised here at home. I am confident that we can meet the test. Mahsi.
---Applause
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Ministers' Statement 21-12(1): Aboriginal Peoples' Inherent Right To Self-government
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 144
The Speaker
Michael Ballantyne
Ministers' statements. Mr. Allooloo .
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Minister's Statement 22-12(1): Television Northern Canada
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 144
Titus Allooloo
Amittuq
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am pleased to inform the House that the new network, Television Northern Canada, will begin broadcasting across the Northwest Territories on January 13, 1992. The official inauguration of the network will take place on January 21, 1992, with a three-hour live telecast to mark the occasion.
The Governor General and the federal Minister of Communications have accepted the invitation of Television Northern Canada to officially inaugurate the network in Iqaluit. All Members of this House are being invited by Television Northern Canada to participate as well. The telecast will involve live broadcasting from Television Northern Canada centres in Iqaluit, Yellowknife and Whitehorse, where people will gather to celebrate.
Television Northern Canada will truly span the North in its coverage and audience. Every community in the Northwest Territories, the Yukon, Arctic Quebec and Northern Labrador will be receiving Television Northern Canada programming.
The Government of the NWT can be proud of its vision for and participation in Television Northern Canada. Acknowledging the great power of television, Culture and Communications convened a meeting in 1987 of aboriginal broadcasters and other interested parties to discuss the potential of a northern broadcasting network. From these discussions, Television Northern Canada was born.
Television Northern Canada represents the best of co-operative broadcasting. Northern aboriginal broadcasters and government organizations have co-ordinated their energies and worked together to ensure that we are not competing for limited financial resources and a limited audience but that we are supporting one another, with each partner having freedom to produce what it feels is best.
As the Television Northern Canada concept became a reality, this government has continued to play a major role in Television Northern Canada's growth through the provision of financial and staff resources and by assisting to secure ongoing funding from the federal government.
Television Northern Canada programming will be produced by aboriginal broadcasters, including the Inuit Broadcasting Corporation, the Inuvialuit Communications Society, Native Communications Society, Northern Native Broadcasting Yukon, Taqramiut Nipingat of Arctic Quebec, the Okalakatiget Society of Labrador, and Wawatay of Northern Ontario. In addition, Mr. Speaker, programs will be provided by GNWT departments, Arctic College, Yukon College, Labrador Community College, the Kativik School Board of Arctic Quebec, and CBC Northern Service.
Television Northern Canada programming, being controlled by the partners, will feature issues from a northern perspective that are of daily importance to northern people. Constitutional development, land claims, environmental and social issues will be reviewed. Any one of the partners can choose to use its air time to broadcast proceedings from this Legislature, committee hearings, the Arctic Winter Games, special conferences or events. The opportunity exists for the creation of a northern version of "The Nation's Business," a program where Members of this House have an opportunity to discuss issues with the public.
And very importantly, the use of aboriginal languages on Television Northern Canada will not only allow for greater northern understanding of issues but send clear messages about the importance of language and culture.
The potential communications value of a television network that reaches every household in the North is vast. Television Northern Canada is a remarkable opportunity for Northerners to communicate directly with Northerners. The effect of Television Northern Canada will be to shrink distances between home and school, between communities and between cultures.
The power of television is great. Now in the hands of Northerners, that power can be used for the benefit of all Northerners. This government is proud to be working alongside the aboriginal broadcasters and other northern governments to develop the full potential of northern television. I invite you to tune in to Television Northern Canada in January and to celebrate the beginning of a new era in northern communications. Thank you.
---Applause
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Minister's Statement 22-12(1): Television Northern Canada
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 144
The Speaker
Michael Ballantyne
Ministers' statements. Mr. Patterson .
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Ministers' Statement 23-12(1): Report Of The Task Force On Legal Aid
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 144
Dennis Patterson
Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have two. At the appropriate time today I will be tabling the report of the task force on legal aid. This report is the work of a task force which was appointed by the Legal Services Board in 1990 to review the delivery of legal aid in the NWT and make recommendations for future directions. The report was received by the legal services board in November, and the board has provided it to me with the request that it be made public. The report of the task force covers some of the same matters as are dealt with in the "Strength At Two Levels" report, but the task force on legal aid recommendations cover
a broad range of service delivery and organizational issues as well as financial concerns. The report contains 65 recommendations.
The members of the task force were all persons who had experience with different aspects of the legal aid system. In the course of their work, they visited several communities and spoke to interested persons across the Territories.
I wish to thank chairperson Adrian Wright and the members of the task force on legal aid for their thoughtful report and recommendations. It is obviously premature to say which of those recommendations should be accepted, but in the coming weeks and months this government will be reviewing the report of the task force on legal aid and conferring with the Legal Services Board on its recommendations. I invite all honourable Members to let me know their views about the contents of the report.
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Ministers' Statement 24-12(1): Fire Prevention Videos
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 144
Dennis Patterson
Iqaluit
Mr. Speaker, if I may, the Department of Safety and Public Services has taken another step in support of our government's efforts to reduce incidents of propane sniffing in the Northwest Territories. It is now releasing the recently completed anti-abuse video "Straight Shooting" to NWT schools. The 28-minute video was filmed in Cape Dorset by the Inuit Broadcasting Corporation for the office of the Fire Marshal. It will be used in "Learn Not To Burn" presentations in NWT schools.
The actors in this video are not professional. They are young adults from the hamlet of Cape Dorset who, as first time actors, have done a remarkable job in delivering a very serious message in a way that touches all age groups.
Mr. Speaker, we must learn from our fire loss records; we must change our lifestyles so that our children are not left unsupervised when they are too young to reason or react; we must get the matches and lighters out of reach of children and teach them the dangers of playing with fires, and we must start controlling our use of alcohol so that alcohol is not a contributing factor to fires.
I would urge each Member of this Assembly to take every opportunity to speak to their constituents about fire prevention. Qujannamiik.
---Applause
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Ministers' Statement 24-12(1): Fire Prevention Videos
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 145
The Speaker
Michael Ballantyne
Ministers' statements. Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mrs. Marie-Jewell .
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Mlas' Involvement In Capital Planning Process
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 145
Jeannie Marie-Jewell
Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as the chairperson of the ordinary Members' caucus, I want to take this opportunity to congratulate the Government Leader on a commitment she has made to allow ordinary MLAs to participate in the development of the 1992-93 capital estimates and to scrutinize future years' requests. In keeping with her commitment of more open government and greater ordinary Member involvement, the Government Leader has agreed, yesterday, to provide Members with copies of community budget submissions.
In past years this information was with held from Members, and as a result, Members were excluded from the planning process. It has been past practice that Members attempted to exert influence by introducing formal motions in the House. It has become apparent that this practice can only lead to chaos. Ordinary Members agreed that capital projects should be based on need and should not be brought down to the level of debating one region against the other, or community against community.
This information will be invaluable to the ordinary Members as we attempt to prioritize the capital needs of our communities for the coming year. Delivery of these documents will provide us with this opportunity. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
---Applause
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Mlas' Involvement In Capital Planning Process
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 145
The Speaker
Michael Ballantyne
Members' statements. Mr. Zoe .
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Involvement Of Ordinary Members In Capital Planning Process
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 145
Henry Zoe
North Slave
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a statement to make regarding the involvement of ordinary Members in the capital planning process. Mr. Speaker, I was very pleased to hear the statement made by the chairperson of the ordinary Members' committee, that the Government Leader has agreed to allow ordinary Members to have meaningful input into this process. I fully agree with this process that has been developed. I think it is long overdue. In light of this, Mr. Speaker, I will not be proceeding with my Motion 36-12(1) on the order paper today.
---Applause
Mr. Speaker, I originally brought this motion forward on the strong recommendation of my constituents. I tabled a petition in this House last week to that effect. The need for an airport for Rae-Edzo is an essential component in building a viable economy in the North Slave region. It will help solidify transportation linkage between Rae-Edzo and the smaller communities. This is of utmost importance because Rae-Edzo is the economic and administrative centre and the cultural hub for my region.
Currently, transportation routes between the smaller communities and Rae-Edzo go through Yellowknife. It is our hope that creating direct links between our communities will lessen the dependence our region has on Yellowknife. I will stress that I remain fully committed to the construction of this airport and will be pursuing this matter with the Executive Council during our discussion on the capital planning process. Thank you.
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Involvement Of Ordinary Members In Capital Planning Process
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 145
The Speaker
Michael Ballantyne
Members' statements. Mr. Todd .
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Canadian Airlines International As Corporate Partner In Expo '92
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 146
John Todd
Keewatin Central
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to start this afternoon by hoping that this House has a sense of humour. I would like to use my statement today to congratulate Canadian Airlines International on becoming a corporate partner in Expo '92. It is my understanding of the Minister of Economic Development and Tourism's statement to this House on Friday that as part of the sponsorship agreement, Canadian Airlines would provide business class seats to GNWT employees travelling to Seville for the price of an economy class ticket.
I note, Mr. Speaker, that we are using this airline as our exclusive air carrier to travel back and forth to Seville. I am quite sure that this service had little or nothing to do with our agreeing to the corporate sponsorship package. This offer shows Canadian Airlines' deep commitment to the North and its people, and I am quite heartened by their concern for the comfort and extra leg-room for GNWT employees.
I would like to offer the suggestion that Canadian Airlines could continue their generous ways by extending the same offer to other groups in our society who perhaps need this service more, such as elders who have to travel by air...
---Applause
...students who have to travel to attend school, and our sick people who have to travel to the hospitals.
In closing, Mr. Speaker, I would like to quote, for the benefit of Canadian Airlines, a famous Christmas character, Ebenezer Scrooge, who when asked if he would contribute to some well-meaning charity said, "Bah, humbug!"
---Laughter
---Applause
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Canadian Airlines International As Corporate Partner In Expo '92
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 146
The Speaker
Michael Ballantyne
Members' statements. Mr. Arvaluk .
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Passing Of David Ovinqayak
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 146
James Arvaluk
Aivilik
(Translation) Mr. Speaker, today I want to express my condolences to David Ovinqayak's family. David is from Arviat. He did not recover from heart surgery during his operation. David Ovinqayak has been active with the Inuit Cultural Institute for over 15 years and has produced books on Inuit cultures, including "Arctic Survival," which is intended for everyone in the Arctic.
Some of you may remember that he travelled by snowmobile from Arviat to Baker Lake, Gjoa Haven, Spence Bay, Pelly Bay, Repulse Bay and back to Arviat via Chesterfield Inlet, Rankin Inlet and Whale Cove. He has walked from Churchill, Manitoba to Arviat all by himself, recording the camps where his ancestors used to live and travel. Before he died, he wrote a book about his travels and his knowledge of the land and its contents. He was making final touches with his publishers when he died on Saturday.
Mr. Speaker, it is very sad to see a friend like David to go, but happy that he has contributed to make us all richer inside. Thank you.
---Applause
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Passing Of David Ovinqayak
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 146
The Speaker
Michael Ballantyne
Members' statements. Mr. Pudluk .
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Hiring Northerners
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 146
Ludy Pudluk
High Arctic
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Employment prospects in the North are practically non-existent in the communities. It is becoming increasingly difficult to earn a living. The government has stated for some time now that they will give preference to northern contractors who put in a bid. To date, this has not yet happened. As of this minute, there is a contractor from my riding who is from the South and who does not have a single Inuk working for him. Seeing this is very depressing.
Although this has been improving slowly, we have been trying to tell the government to hire northern contractors to keep the economy going in the communities. When the government hires southern contractors, they should tell the contractors to hire the people from the communities because jobs are hard to come by in the communities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
---Applause
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Hiring Northerners
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 146
The Speaker
Michael Ballantyne
Members' statements. Mr. Dent .
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Medal Of Bravery Award To Clem Paul
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 146
Charles Dent
Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to inform the House that on December 14th, the Governor General awarded the medal of bravery to Mr. Clem Paul of Yellowknife. Mr. Paul was cited for attempting to save two men whose snowmobile had broken the thin ice of Harding Lake, north of Yellowknife, on November 11, 1990. Following some distance behind his friends, Mr. Paul immediately stopped his snowmobile, unhooked the sleigh, and using a gun case paddled furiously over 30 meters of open, frigid water to the victims.
Unfortunately, just before he had arrived, one man disappeared below the surface while the other was rapidly losing consciousness. Unable to lift the second man onto the unstable sleigh, Mr. Paul tied him to the rear and made the exhausting trip back toward the shore where others in the hunting party threw a rope out to tow the sleigh onto solid ice. Mr. Paul and the victim were taken to a cabin, where they awaited a rescue helicopter.
I am sure all of us in the House will join in congratulating Mr. Paul on receiving this award, which recognizes his selfless actions in a dangerous situation. Thank you.
---Applause
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The Speaker
Michael Ballantyne
Members' statements. Mr. Allooloo .
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Summit Of Inuit Leaders, Iqaluit
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Titus Allooloo
Amittuq
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is my pleasure to address this House today as the chairman of the Nunavut caucus. First, I would like to thank the Members of the Nunavut caucus for their faith and confidence in me to continue to be the chairman of the Nunavut caucus for the time being.
Mr. Speaker, I wish to inform the Members of this Assembly that we are proposing to hold a summit of Inuit leaders in Iqaluit during the last week of January 1992. The participants at this proposed summit are Inuit leaders working for our people at the local, regional and national level through the different organizations such as Tungavik Federation of Nunavut, Pauktuutit, Inuit Tapirisat of Canada, and regional council representatives. Also, Members of our own Nunavut caucus will be taking part at this summit.
We are working toward the same goal, which is the control of our own destiny in order to ensure a good life for our people. Because of the conditions in the society that surrounds us and the incredible changes we have to adjust to in such rapid succession, we find ourselves today, as leaders, in a critical time. It is a time when our leaders are called to make decisions that will greatly affect our present circumstances as well as our future. We need to come together, as is our tradition in such times, to talk, to evaluate where we are, where we wish to go and how we can best support each other to work in a united way, as we have always done.
These are difficult times, not just for Inuit, but for all people in our country. Canada itself is facing an uncertain future. The effects of the current economic recession are being felt here in our northern communities as well, and at all levels of government. Our hunters and trappers find themselves in a life and death struggle for the protection of their way of life.
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Mr. Allooloo , your time has expired. Are you seeking unanimous consent to proceed?
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Titus Allooloo
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The Speaker
Michael Ballantyne
Unanimous consent has been requested. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Proceed, Mr. Allooloo .
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Titus Allooloo
Amittuq
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Members. Our hunters and trappers find themselves in a life and death struggle for the protection of their way of life with the extreme elements of the animal rights movement.
But hardship is not new to my people. We have experienced new diseases that our bodies could not fight. When game was scarce, we starved. With the coming of industrial society our families were ripped apart and our children sent away to residential schools. Alcoholism, drug abuse, and other new social problems now cripple many of our communities today. In a very short time, especially in the last 30 years, the basic values of the Inuit way of life were completely turned upside down and a whole new set of rules, still foreign to us, were put in place by those who came to our lands.
As a result of this imposed system, we find that those in positions of power, such as judges, lawyers, doctors, nurses, educators and bureaucrats at the top positions, are not of our people. Therefore, we find ourselves governed by others, using their methods of government.
One example of how the law in Canada dealt with native people is the fact that until 1960 no aboriginal person or native of mixed blood was allowed to testify in court in British Columbia.
In 1960, when I was a child, only 30 years ago, the law was revised to allow native people to testify on their own behalf. However, even the revision said that native people were "uncivilized, destitute of knowledge of God, they had no clear belief in religion and they knew nothing of a future state of rewards and punishments." No aboriginal person in Canada could legally vote until the year 1960.
This gross misunderstanding of our cultures is changing, but only because, I believe, Mr. Speaker, native people have shown strong conviction in their own beliefs and an amazing ability to adapt to new ways of life and survive.
We possessed, and still possess today, an incredibly rich system of knowledge that guided our thoughts and actions, as individuals and as a people, a system that enabled us not only to survive but to thrive in a part of the world that is considered the harshest inhabited by human beings. But this is our homeland which we love.
Now we are told that our homeland does not belong to us. They tell us that we must negotiate if we want to have a say in how our land is managed and protected. The Inuit have always viewed themselves as the protectors of the land and its resources. This was a responsibility shared by all Inuit. Now we are told that in order to protect our land we must own it and obtain title to it from others. That same society promotes the rights and interests of the individual above that of the community.
This is a concept that cuts cross the heart of traditional Inuit values and culture because while we have always respected the freedom of the individual, the welfare of all the people was the guiding principle. We needed to work together. That is how we have survived. We need to work together today.
In spite of terrible hardships, we have survived. We are rebuilding our communities; we are fighting to protect our languages; and we continue to practise the traditions given to us by our ancestors, which have guided my people for thousands of years.
It is time for my people to regroup and come together to plan for the survival of our homeland and our people.
It is my personal view that in order for us to achieve a consensus on a common agenda for our future, we must draw on our strengths of the past. We must set aside our individual needs and seek out solutions that are of greatest benefit to the whole community. The need to work together for a common purpose is greater now than it has ever been.
The agenda for the proposed summit includes the creation of Nunavut, a discussion on the boundary plebiscite, a review of our land claim negotiations and a discussion on various constitutional matters. Most importantly, we have to discuss ways in which we can help each other. Our people and our leaders are faced with tremendous stress today, and expectations, and we need to reach out to one another and offer our encouragement and support, as is our way.
We recognize that our people are facing many crucial decisions, and we want our voices to be united and our vision to be clear. It is important that the direction we choose is supported by our communities and follows in the footsteps of our ancestors, who have walked through this life with purpose and confidence. The principles that we identify together will be a guide for us in governing ourselves and to determine our destiny.
It gives me great pride to inform the Members of this Assembly that our leadership, including our elders, our youth, our women, will be represented at the proposed summit. This most important Inuit summit will help us to redefine our purpose and reach agreement on our priorities.
We must carry on the tradition of Qudliq, the symbol of the continuous burning light that used to warm our homes and spirits. The fire has been burning out. It is time for us to rekindle it, to make it strong again, so that we may find our strength and our ways once more.
Mr. Speaker, we know that the present and the future hold many problems and obstacles, but this knowledge will only serve to strengthen our resolve to overcome these difficult times. The trail ahead may be rough and obscure, but we continue on, knowing that our people have pulled through very difficult times before and their passing has marked the path. Our will to survive is as strong as it ever was, and I am confident that by coming together we will ensure that our future as Inuit will be made better for our children of tomorrow.
I have great confidence that this summit will achieve what I have outlined, and I am asking each one of you for your moral support. Qujannamiik.
---Applause
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The Speaker
Michael Ballantyne
Thank you. I allowed pretty broad latitude for the definition of Members' statements because of the importance of the issue, but I hope that Members will respect the definition of Members' statements and only take advantage of the generosity at the appropriate time. Members' statements. Mr. Kakfwi .
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Brian Lewis' Role In "dreams And Visions"
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Stephen Kakfwi
Sahtu
Mr. Speaker, I wish to give some special recognition to the MLA for Yellowknife Centre, Brian Lewis . It should be noted that if it was not for his urging and pushing and constant, persistent and frequent requests for status reports, the book "Dreams and Visions" probably would not have been published by the Department of Education. It would have continued to sit on the shelf gathering dust.
Members should know that the book "Dreams and Visions" is a recollection of the NWT education system from the mission schools of the 1800s until 1984. As a result of Mr. Lewis ' persistence, one of the last things I did as the former Minister of Education was to publish and subsequently release the book. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased that someone finally took the honourable Member's advice.
Nice letters of appreciation from those who were close to Norm McPherson, the researcher and principal writer of the manuscript, have come recently, applauding the book and the government for finally releasing it. Thank you.
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Michael Ballantyne
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Going Home For Christmas
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Brian Lewis
Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have the pleasure of living very close to this building where we work when the Legislature is sitting and having listened to Mr. Allooloo and the word "home" and "homeland", it made me think that probably this Legislature has never sat this close to Christmas before. So I would like to wish all Members God speed in their journeys back home, where they will join their families, because this time of the year the word "home" and "homeland" and "family", means so much to everybody.
So I would like to ask all Members, in the spirit of the season and the spirit of co-operation, to try to get the work of this Legislature done in a responsible manner and in a co-operative fashion so that we can all finish tomorrow, so that people can get home for Christmas.
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The Speaker
Michael Ballantyne
We hope there is no Scrooge in this Assembly.
---Laughter
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Further Return To Question O91-12(1): Forest Resource Plan For Liard Valley
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Page 148
John Ningark
Natilikmiot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to Question O91-12(1), asked by Mr. Antoine on December 13, 1991. I would like to confirm what the Government Leader said on Friday, December 13, 1991. There is no arrangement for the Government of British Columbia to contact the Government of the NWT before permits are issued to log areas bordering the NWT. We will contact the Government of British Columbia on this issue. Thank you.
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The Speaker
Michael Ballantyne
Returns to oral questions. Mr. Kakfwi .
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Further Return To Question O95-12(1): Hiring Non-canadians For Management Positions
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Stephen Kakfwi
Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a return to Question O95-12(1) asked by Mr. Bernhardt on December 13, 1991, regarding the hiring of non-Canadians for management positions. The rules regarding the hiring of non-Canadian citizens apply to all positions in the Government of the NWT. As specified in the personnel manual, all potential employees are asked to indicate their citizenship on the application form. Personnel officers are responsible for verifying with the nearest immigration office that non-Canadians applying on GNWT competitions have landed immigrant status.
The Government of the NWT complies with federal legislation regarding landed immigrants. Those with landed immigrant status are temporary citizens and are entitled to the rights of a Canadian citizen, including the right to obtain work anywhere in the country.
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Further Return To Question O106-12(1): Policy Re Hiring Non-canadians In Management Positions
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Stephen Kakfwi
Sahtu
This is in response to a question asked by Mrs. Marie-Jewell on December 13, 1991. On all competitions the affirmative action policy is applied in considering the applications. Non-Canadians with landed immigrant status applying on Government of the NWT competitions are treated as any other Canadian citizen. The rules are clearly outlined in the personnel manual. There is no need to develop any additional policies or guidelines regarding the hiring of non-Canadians for management positions.
The affirmative action policy provides hiring preference for qualified members of designated groups. Therefore, as long as there are qualified applicants on a competition who are eligible for preference under the affirmative action policy, they will get the job. Only in circumstances where there are no applicants who are qualified and who are eligible under the policy will other applicants, including non-Canadians, be considered.
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The Speaker
Michael Ballantyne
Thank you. Returns to oral questions. Mr. Allooloo .
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Return To Question O108-12(1): Finalization Of Federal-territorial Agreement Re Arviat Airport
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Titus Allooloo
Amittuq
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to a question asked by Mr. Arngna'naaq on December 13, 1991. On December 13, 1991, the Member for Kivallivik reported a difficulty the hamlet of Arviat had experienced in ordering replacement lighting for the non-directional air navigation beacon at the Arviat airport. The Member suggested that the difficulty was a result of the transfer agreement for the Arctic B and C airports program between the federal and territorial governments which was completed this last February 1991.
The agreement transferred to the territorial Department of Transportation the ownership and the responsibility for the operation and maintenance of the airport lands, the runways, the airport buildings and the ground visual aids of the Arviat airport. The transfer agreement did not include responsibility for the electronic air navigation aids. Air navigation systems are national in scope, and remain the exclusive responsibility of the federal government.
My officials at the Department of Transportation have investigated the Member's report, and I believe the lights the Member referred to in his question were the obstruction lights on top of Arviat airport's non-directional beacon tower. On October 15, 1991, the observer /communicator on duty at the Arviat airport reported the failure of lights to Transport Canada officials in Rankin Inlet. Transport Canada issued a Notice To Airmen, NOTAM, concerning the non-directional beacon tower's obstruction lights. By November 15th, a month later, Transport Canada had not repaired the faulty lights.
The hamlet of Arviat wished to replace the lights themselves. The Department of Transportation would not authorize the hamlet's expenditure of moneys on what is properly a federal responsibility. More importantly, while the department commends the hamlet's commitment to air safety, it did not wish hamlet employees to climb the 182-foot high beacon tower to replace the lamps.
On November 15th, the Department of Transportation reminded Transport Canada that the tower lights on the non-directional beacon were still not working. On November 28th, Transport Canada sent two tower maintenance technicians to Arviat who safely replaced the obstruction warning lights on the tower. The delay in repairing the beacon lights in Arviat was not the result of the Arctic airports transfer agreement. Thank you.
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Michael Ballantyne
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Question O134-12(1): Number Of NWT Health Boards
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell
Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I direct my question to the Minister of Health . Will the Minister of Health be able to advise this House how many health boards, whether regional boards or boards of management, there are in the Northwest Territories. Thank you.
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The Speaker
Michael Ballantyne
Minister of Health ,
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Tony Whitford
Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, lots. I could get the listing. I do not have that at my fingertips, but I could get the listing. There are at least five regional boards that I am aware of, and as far as the numbers they vary as to their particular size, but I will get that for the Member as soon as I can.
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Michael Ballantyne
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell
Thebacha
Mr. Speaker, I do not know whether he took it as notice, but it appears that he has not. Mr. Speaker, I would like to know if the Minister of Health would be able to tell me, out of these boards, how many chairmen are appointed at pleasure. Thank you.
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Tony Whitford
Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thought they were all appointed at pleasure, but I cannot be absolutely certain. I will have to review that. I do know that there may be some.
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell
Thebacha
Mr. Chairman, I guess I am concerned with respect to some of these health boards having the chairmen appointed by the Minister of Health and their appointments being at pleasure. Realistically, a chairman could be there for 20 years if the process allowed. However, I would like to ask the Minister of Health if he would consider applying an expiry date on the terms of the chairmen of health boards who are appointed at pleasure. Thank you.
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Tony Whitford
Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will take that suggestion under advisement and see how we can comply with that. I think "at pleasure" would be for the particular life of the Minister, and I do not think that would be too long, given the nature of the House, four years at the maximum, and after that -- it is a good question and it is one that will be addressed by us as we review the nature of agencies and boards under the two departments that I am heading up, Mr. Speaker.
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Is the question taken as notice, Mr. Minister? Okay, the question is not taken as notice. Oral questions. Mrs. Marie-Jewell .
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell
Thebacha
Mr. Speaker, in as much as he attempted to answer my question, I would just hope that he would give me a specific answer, whether he would say yes or no. Will the Minister of Health consider looking at placing an expiry date on the terms of the chairmen of these boards where it is stated that they are at pleasure, as opposed to a specific date? Will he consider placing an expiry date to their pleasure terms, if I may state?
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Tony Whitford
Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the first question that the Member addressed, will I consider it, yes I will consider looking at the expiration dates on terms of chairpeople.
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Question O135-12(1): Permanent Day-care Policy
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Page 149
Charles Dent
Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Social Services . Mr. Speaker, day-care centres in the Northwest Territories have been operating under an interim policy and regulations for several years now. Will the Minister make a commitment to this House to review that interim policy
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Tony Whitford
Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In January I am going to be meeting in Toronto with the federal Minister of Social Services , who I understand is also the Minister responsible for Health , and we will be discussing items such as that. I am sure that item will come up.
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Charles Dent
Yellowknife Frame Lake
Mr. Speaker, in spite of the visit with the federal Minister, I am wondering if this Minister could advise us of the time frame in which we might expect to see some regulations of a permanent nature in the NWT. Do we have an expected date for arriving at that policy?
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Tony Whitford
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish I could give a definite date to the honourable Member as to when we would conclude such a matter, but I am unable to do that at this time.
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Charles Dent
Yellowknife Frame Lake
Mr. Speaker, recognizing that the Minister will have to discuss this with the federal government, I still think that what I am looking for is a commitment to undertake a review of this policy, and I do not think that is incumbent on any discussions with the federal Minister. I would think that this would be something where we could, at home -- whether the federal government is involved or not -- review the policy and the regulations and come up with our own permanent policy. So my question is again, will the Minister consider reviewing these policies with an eye to making a permanent policy within the life of this Legislature? Can we get some sort of a commitment?
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Tony Whitford
Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, I will endeavour to make that one of my priorities, and with the help of the honourable Members, address that issue before the end of the Assembly.
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Question O136-12(1): Possibility Of Pulling Out Of Expo '92 Commitments
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
Mr. Speaker, I would like to extend our appreciation to Mr. Pollard who is now with us today. I thought maybe he was hiding. Yesterday Mr. Pollard indicated in a return to a question from Mr. Dent that he was going to attempt to supply this House with the revised budget and breakdown of expenditures with respect to Expo '92, and that he would provide a report outlining the expected benefits resulting from the participation at Expo in 1992, and he would also provide an outline of expenses and revenues in the GNWT's participation in Expo in 1986.
Would the Minister consider putting a hold on further commitments on Expo '92 in Seville until such time as this House has been provided with the appropriate documentation to determine what the net impact to Northerners is of this expenditure?
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Page 150
The Speaker
Michael Ballantyne
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John Pollard
Hay River
Mr. Speaker, as I stated the other day, this government has no intentions of pulling out of the exposition in Seville. If I were to say I was prepared to put the thing on hold right now, then I think a lot of our people out there who are corporate sponsors and partners in this particular venture, the people who we have offered jobs to, the people we have signed contracts with, the people we have agreed to buy carvings from and handicrafts, the people we entered into negotiations on fish and musk-ox with, would all see that this project was in jeopardy. I am not prepared to say that at this particular time or in the future.
Mr. Speaker, I will supply the information to all Members of the House that Mr. Dent requested yesterday under a written question. But we have no intentions of pulling out of the exposition. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
Mr. Speaker, it is my understanding that the total budget for Expo is four million dollars. Is the Minister prepared to put his department and his reputation on the line, that that department will meet those commitments, or if there are significant overruns in Expo, that he will be accountable for it?
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John Pollard
Hay River
Mr. Speaker, as the Minister for Economic Development and Tourism , I am accountable for anything that that department does.
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Mr. Pudlat .
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Question O137-12(1): Plans For Encouraging Economic Development In Baffin
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Kenoayoak Pudlat
Baffin South
(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a question for the Minister of Economic Development and Tourism . Economic development is on the rise in the Baffin. Tourism in Cape Dorset has fully progressed. A lot of the businesses that were involved in outfitting were running very well but they are not any more. However, outside of Cape Dorset this activity is on a downslide again. Do they still have plans to encourage economic development activity within the Baffin area, to encourage outfitters and tourism?
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Kenoayoak Pudlat
Baffin South
We have some students from our regions taking economic development-related courses. I understand they are taking outfitting courses. I understand they will be finished in March. I understand the funding for those programs will be cut off. I want further information on this. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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The Speaker
Michael Ballantyne
Mr. Pudlat , in future if you could just ask one question at a time. We will treat that as two questions and you can give two answers to it.
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John Pollard
Hay River
Mr. Speaker, I am aware of there being some concern on Baffin Island in this regard. As I have said to the House before, what I would like to do is to meet individually with MLAs and perhaps regionally with MLAs and get some idea from them of how we can address their own particular problems. In this instance that is what is going to be required; finding out what people in the particular area feel is the answer to their problems.
As far as funding cuts for those programs, I am not aware of it, but I will look into it.
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Michael Ballantyne
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Question O139-12(1): People Who Die Without Wills
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Kenoayoak Pudlat
Baffin South
(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a question to the Minister of Social Services . When a grandmother dies and leaves behind grandchildren, the descendants who are then living receive inheritances.
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Dennis Patterson
Iqaluit
Mr. Speaker, it falls under my responsibility. The Member, I believe, is referring to the situation of people who die without having written a will specifying what happens with their property following their death. In that event the matter is handled by the office of the public trustee which reports to me as Minister of Justice . Thank you.
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Thank you. If you have any specific questions, perhaps you could deal with the Minister at your own leisure, Mr. Pudlat . Oral questions. Mr. Bernhardt .
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Question O140-12(1): Rental Rate Structure Applied By NWT Housing Corporation
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Ernie Bernhardt
Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to direct my question to the Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation. Would the Minister please explain why 25 per cent of a person's salary is used for rental charges within the corporation?
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Don Morin
Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Twenty-five per cent of gross salary is applied to rental units.
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Ernie Bernhardt
Kitikmeot
Can I ask why the figure of 25 per cent is used and how did it come about? Who set the rate of 25 per cent of one person's salary?
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Don Morin
Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will take the question as notice and I will supply the Member with a complete briefing.
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The question is taken as notice. Oral questions. Mr. Gargan .
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Question O141-12(1): Defining "principally Engaged" Re Hunters' And Trappers' Claims For Workers' Compensation
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Samuel Gargan
Deh Cho
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to direct my question to the Minister responsible for the Workers' Compensation Board. Mr. Speaker, with regard to the definition "principally engaged," the Minister indicated that the priorities and planning committee was consulted, the Department of Personnel, Department of Social Services, the Department of Renewable Resources, Department of Finance, Department of Justice and the Workers' Compensation Board were all consulted with regard to looking at the definition of principally engaged. I would like to ask the Minister if there are records of each department's opinion on what principally engaged means.
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Dennis Patterson
Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe the honourable Member is referring to some comments made to him in recent correspondence with me on the subject of hunters and trappers and claims before the Workers' Compensation Board. Mr. Speaker, I certainly would not want to get technical with the honourable Member in this House, but the correspondence does refer to decisions that were made by the previous government in 1990. I am not sure if the rules permit me to provide information about an issue that was dealt with by a previous government.
However, Mr. Speaker, I will undertake to provide the Member personally with as much background as I can on that particular issue and how it was handled by the previous government. Having said that, I would also want to assure this House that the issue needs attention and I plan to review it as a priority from here on in, and I do not think we need to confine ourselves to previous solutions when we are looking at this problem. Thank you.
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Samuel Gargan
Deh Cho
Mr. Speaker, the definition of "principally engaged" was not arrived at by the Workers' Compensation Board at all is what the Minister is indicating. I would also like to ask, of all the departments that were consulted I do not know if any of those people are aboriginal people, so I would like to ask the Minister if he will consider consulting aboriginal organizations as well to define "principally engaged."
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Dennis Patterson
Iqaluit
Mr. Speaker, I think probably my first obligation as far as consulting representatives of aboriginal people, and indeed everyone, would be to consult with honourable Members who, I am sure, are very good representatives of the concerns of aboriginal people and aboriginal hunters and trappers. I intend to consult with Members and especially the honourable Member who is obviously very interested in and informed on this issue. I am not adverse to also consulting other organizations, but I would say that I believe that the Members of this Assembly are probably quite capable spokesmen for the interests of aboriginal people and hunters with respect to the WCB. Thank you.
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Samuel Gargan
Deh Cho
Mr. Speaker, I do not know if the Minister read his own letter but later on in his letter he did say that the coverage for hunters and trappers from the Workers' Compensation Board would be removed and would be replaced by a memorandum of understanding or memorandum of agreement that was approved on June 28 of last year. I would like to ask whether or not we do have that memorandum of agreement in place now, and exactly what does that mean.
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Dennis Patterson
Iqaluit
I will have to take that question on notice, Mr. Speaker, and get back to the Member as soon as I can. Thank you.
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Question O142-12(1): Term Of Voluntary Salary Cuts
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Fred Koe
Inuvik
Mahsi. Mr. Speaker, in December the Minister, deputy ministers, and yourself, agreed to take cuts in their base salaries effective January 1, 1992. While I admire these honourable actions, Mr. Speaker, the Government Leader did not say for what term these cuts were. Can you advise me, please?
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Nellie Cournoyea
Nunakput
Mr. Speaker, my understanding is that it is starting January 1 and there is no end of term on that, but the beginning of the cuts will start on January 1.
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Fred Koe
Inuvik
Will these cuts be reflected in deputy ministers' terms of employment or contracts?
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Nellie Cournoyea
Nunakput
Mr. Speaker, it will be reflected in their pay for sure. Some deputy ministers do not have contracts, they are on salary, so however we make the deductions it will be off their salary.
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Fred Koe
Inuvik
Will these reductions also be indexed?
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Nellie Cournoyea
Nunakput
Mr. Speaker, I have to apologize because I would have to find out what that means before I can answer the honourable Member. Thank you.
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Fred Koe
Inuvik
I just meant if COLA, cost of living allowance, clauses, as was mentioned yesterday, would come into effect, will they be applied, and normally they are, and if they are, will the reductions reflect this?
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Nellie Cournoyea
Nunakput
Mr. Speaker, the salaries will be reduced at the amount that has been stated, beginning January 1st. There is no automatic increase in the cabinet Ministers' allowances, as there are in the MLAs' allowances.
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Question O143-12(1): Franchise Agreements Between Power Corporation And Communities
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister responsible for the Power Corporation . Can the Minister update the House on the status of the franchise agreements between the NWT Power Corporation and the communities across the NWT?
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Michael Ballantyne
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Nellie Cournoyea
Nunakput
Mr. Speaker, I cannot tell you exactly how many have been signed, but let me tell, you certainly there is a great deal of misunderstanding on what those franchise agreements are. Certainly the work that has been done by other associations has made the relationship with the Power Corporation and the communities much more complex and confusing. Basically as far as I can report, they are going nowhere. Thank you.
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
Can the Minister explain, because I am confused
as well, how signing a 10-year franchise agreement with the Power Corporation will benefit the communities? Does this franchise agreement not effectively eliminate the communities or the regions looking at alternate sources of power, hydro power, et cetera?
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Nellie Cournoyea
Nunakput
Mr. Speaker, the reason for a franchise agreement is to ensure there is an agreement that the Power Corporation will be serving those communities on a longer-term basis so that the Power Corporation can decide on their long-term expenditure patterns for capital installations. As for looking for alternate power, it does not preclude a community from looking at alternative power, such as hydro or wind generation or whatever.
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Question O144-12(1): Removal Of Hunters And Trappers From Workers' Compensation Coverage
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Page 153
Richard Nerysoo
Mackenzie Delta
I wish to ask the Minister responsible for the Workers' Compensation Board, whether he could make available to Members of this House the memorandum of agreement regarding the removal of hunters and trappers from coverage from the Workers' Compensation Act.
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Dennis Patterson
Iqaluit
Mr. Speaker, I already took a question on this as notice and I will therefore ask the Member's indulgence if I could also take this related question on notice and get back as quickly as possible.
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Question O145-12(1): Criteria For Filling A Position
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Samuel Gargan
Deh Cho
Mr. Chairman, I heard Mr. Kakfwi 's response on the affirmative action policy. Under this policy it does give preference to an aboriginal person if the qualifications are fairly even. In the event that it is only aboriginal people who do apply for a position, what is the criteria for a position to be filled?
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Stephen Kakfwi
Sahtu
Mr. Speaker, the nature is whoever does the best in the interview and has the edge in terms of experience and academic background. The most competent person in the interview is usually given the job.
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