Debates of Oct. 26th, 2009

This is page numbers 3469 - 3500 of the Hansard for the 16th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was vaccine .

Topics

Oral Questions

Members Present

Prayer

Minister’s Statement 14-16(4): 20/20: A Brilliant North, NWT Public Service Strategic Plan

Minister’s Statement 15-16(4): Public Service Capacity - Community Governments

Minister’s Statement 16-16(4): NWT Literacy Strategy

Emergency Communication Capacity Along Highway No. 3

Chipsealing The Deh Cho Trail

GNWT Repairs Required To Joe Greenland Centre

Recreation Leaders Day

Recognizing The Importance Of Climate Change Issues

Cost Of Living Issues In The Sahtu

Establishment Of A New Territorial Park In Tu Nedhe

Need For Renovations In J.h. Sissons/ Yk Aurora Campus Educational Facilities

Local Housing Subsidy Program

H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccination

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Acknowledgements

Emergency Communication Capacity Along Highway No. 3

Establishment Of New Territorial Park In Tu Nedhe

H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccination

Chipsealing The Deh Cho Trail

Public Service Strategic Plan As It Relates To The Affirmative Action Policy

Need For Renovations In J.h. Sissons/ Yk Aurora Campus Educational Facilities

Local Housing Subsidy Program

Greenhouse Gas Strategy And Suggested Targets

Actions To Assist Small Business And Reduce High Cost Of Living In The Sahtu

Territorial Admissions Committee

Need For Regulations Governing Abandoned Gas Stations

H1N1 Vaccine

Protection Of The Canol Heritage Trail

Amending Medical Travel Policy To Include Vehicle Rental

Student Home Boarding Policy

H1N1 Vaccine

Protection Of The Canol Heritage Trail

Regulatory Process Related To The Mactung Mine

Upgrading Roadway Into The Canol Heritage Trail

Written Question 5-16(4): Yellowknife School And Board Operation Costs

Written Question 6-16(4): Total Cost Of Ecole Allain St-Cyr Expansion

Tabled Document 18-16(4): Supplementary Appropriation No. 2 (Operations Expenditures), 2009-2010

Tabled Document 19-16(4): Supplementary Appropriation No. 3 (Infrastructure Expenditures), 2009-2010

Tabled Document 20-16(4): Product Information Leaflet

Tabled Document 21-16(4): N.J. MacPherson Tabled Document 22-16(4): Package Of Information Regarding Distracted Drivers And Cell Phone Usage

Tabled Document 23-16(4): Conflict Of Interest Commissioner Annual Report 2008

Appointment Of Conflict Of Interest Commissioner

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Report of Committee of the Whole

Orders of the Day

The House met at 1:34 p.m.

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Prayer

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Please be seated. Good afternoon, colleagues. Welcome back to the Chamber. Orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers’ statements. The honourable Minister responsible for Human Resources , Mr. Bob McLeod .

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Minister’s Statement 14-16(4): 20/20: A Brilliant North, NWT Public Service Strategic Plan

Ministers’ Statements

Yellowknife South

Bob McLeod

Minister of Human Resources

Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to announce that the implementation of 20/20: A Brilliant North, NWT Public Service Strategic Plan is well underway. This plan is the first of its kind for the Department of Human Resources.

Mr. Speaker, 20/20: A Brilliant North is an important and exciting strategic plan that will guide the Government of the Northwest Territories human resource planning over the next 10 years and is being championed by all deputy ministers. The actions contained in the accompanying three-year action plan are ambitious, with year one focussing on the development of a number of programs, the second year piloting programs such as the training program for aboriginal employees and in year three, rolling out the full programs.

Goal one, Fixing the Foundation, supports 20/20: A Brilliant North’s mission and vision by putting in place a firm foundation of excellent human resource management practices and services necessary to ensure the other strategic goals have the support to be successful. Work that has already commenced under this goal includes the establishment of a transition team with a focus on streamlining human resource processes and procedures and reducing the backlog in pay and benefits.

Client service training has also been provided to Human Resources’ staff in all regions; learning plans are currently being developed for all employees in Human Resources; and a client satisfaction survey will be issued to Department of Human Resources’ clients prior to the end of this fiscal year.

Goal two, Engage: Magnetic Attraction. This goal, through the attraction of Northerners and others to

the public service, and the engagement of existing workforce, will establish a public service that reflects our diverse cultures and provides high quality services to the residents of the Northwest Territories. Some of the exciting actions being worked on under this goal include: the establishment of an Aboriginal Employees Advisory Committee; the establishment of recruitment strategies for hard to recruit occupations such as engineering, pharmacy and social work; and identifying ways to increase the support and representation of persons with disabilities.

Goal three, Dazzle: Diverse Opportunities, focuses on the commitment to the workplace and environment, individual wellness, and establishing and maintaining excellent relationships with our partners: the public and stakeholders.

Under this goal the Government of the Northwest Territories Green Team has been established; a Summer Wellness Program was piloted in the Department of Human Resources; the Managers’ Tool Kit was launched; regularly scheduled meetings commended with both the Union of Northern Workers and the Northwest Territories Teachers’ Association; cross-cultural awareness opportunities for employees are currently being developed and labour relations training is being offered to managers and supervisors in all regions.

Goal four, Inspire: Expanding Horizons, focuses on inspiring the public service to strive for continuous development and a culture of lifelong learning. Under this goal, the important work of developing aboriginal employees training programs, the implementation of learning plans and a new performance management framework are underway for all employees.

Last, but not least, goal five focuses on the future through excellence in planning for and management of the public service including the development of a succession planning framework that includes the transfer of knowledge. Under this goal, a framework for departmental human resource plans that will include an affirmative action component is currently being drafted and work is also underway on identifying common priorities and shared services where the Government of the Northwest Territories may partner with community

and aboriginal governments to improve human resource management in the Northwest Territories.

Mr. Speaker, we have much work ahead of us but I look forward to keeping the Members of this Assembly informed as we continue to implement 20/20: A Brilliant North. I am expecting that the first formal results, reporting on year one of the three-year action plan, will be tabled in this Assembly in June 2010. In closing, I would like to thank the Government Operations committee for their ongoing support and guidance as we move forward implementing 20/20: A Brilliant North. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister’s Statement 14-16(4): 20/20: A Brilliant North, NWT Public Service Strategic Plan

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Minister responsible for Municipal and Community Affairs , Mr. Robert McLeod .

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Minister’s Statement 15-16(4): Public Service Capacity - Community Governments

Ministers’ Statements

Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in May 2008 I announced to Members that Municipal and Community Affairs would be leading the work on capacity building initiatives at the local government level, in full partnership with the Department of Human Resources as well as the Northwest Territories Association of Communities and the Local Government Administrators of the Northwest Territories.

Today I would like to provide Members with an update on the details of this exciting initiative. However, before I do, I need to thank our key partners in public service capacity building: the NWT Association of Communities and the Local Government Administrators of the NWT. Without their vision, pragmatic advice and informed analysis, we would not be as advanced as we are in the development of strategies that aim to address this issue. At both the board and staff levels, these two organizations are fully committed to rolling up their sleeves and provide hands-on efforts to make this opportunity as meaningful and far-reaching as possible.

Mr. Speaker, the Public Service Capacity for Local Government Initiative will include a series of strategies, each aimed at strengthening the capacity of local government administrators as well as the leadership capacity of mayors, chiefs and councillors so that they can provide effective direction and support to their staff.

The first priority for the initiative focuses on the key position councils need to both maintain the day-to-day operations and to implement their long-term vision; this is the local government administrator, also known as the SAOs and band managers. We all know that local governments in the NWT have undergone significant evolution and transformation

in their relatively short history. As a result, the skill set required to manage a local government has expanded significantly and at this point, many NWT local governments are challenged to recruit and retain competent administrators. This initiative will work to address this challenge and raise the profile of this rewarding and exciting profession.

Working in collaboration, the NWT Association of Communities, Local Government Administrators of the NWT, the Department of Human Resources and MACA have developed a number of strategies as part of this initiative. One of the larger initiatives is the Administrator Development Program, where local governments can apply for two-year funding to support either a trainee or mentor for their administrator position, depending on the current needs of the local government. There will be strong encouragement for local governments to hire Northerners into their permanent administrator position.

Another initiative is the Good Governance training for elected leaders. This program was successfully piloted earlier this year by the School of Community Government with a number of participants who were attending the NWT Association of Communities annual general meeting. This training will be offered to every newly elected council, on an ongoing basis, so that councillors have a common knowledge base around roles and responsibilities, especially in relationship to their administrator.

There will also be an Administrator Mentorship Program where skilled, experienced administrators will be available to formally mentor those who are developing their skills. As well, a pool of professionals will be developed, where local governments can access temporary expertise on an interim basis to troubleshoot or maintain services during a vacancy.

Professional development workshops will be held to build the skills and expertise of administrators. The first one, planned to coincide with the Local Government Administrators of the NWT 2009 annual general meeting, will address recruitment and retention challenges in local governments.

As well, an array of promotional materials will be developed, including brochures, information on Local Government Administrators on the NWT’s website and the production of a video on council-administrator engagement. These will be targeted primarily to Northerners to encourage them to consider the interesting and challenging work opportunities available in local governance.

In past discussions I have had with standing committee, they have provided excellent ideas and suggestions on the topic of community capacity, and we look forward to their input and analysis prior to the formal launch of this initiative.

I would like to thank Mayor Gord Van Tighem, from the NWT Association of Communities, and John McKee, from the Local Government Administrators of the NWT, for their leadership.

A capable public service at all levels of government is essential if we want to see quality programs and services developed and maintained for our citizens. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased that we are providing the tools, supports and resources to local governments to make this happen. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister’s Statement 15-16(4): Public Service Capacity - Community Governments

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Minister responsible for Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Lafferty .

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Minister’s Statement 16-16(4): NWT Literacy Strategy

Ministers’ Statements

Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, increasing literacy levels among the people of the Northwest Territories is a top priority for the Department of Education, Culture and Employment. We recognize the importance of literacy across the lifespan and throughout society. Literacy is not so much a matter of whether or not people can read, but rather about how well they can read and use different kinds of information. The NWT Literacy Strategy, Towards Literacy 2008-2010, focuses on helping people lead fulfilling lives and contribute to society.

The new strategy represents the ongoing commitment of the Government of the Northwest Territories and our partners, including schools, Aurora College, the NWT Literacy Council, communities, families, individuals and others, to improve the overall literacy of Northerners.

We built upon our past strategy and have increased funding in a number of areas. For the 2009-2010 years there is a total of $3.4 million budgeted for the Literacy Strategy. Some of our increased investments include $350,000 to provide literacy programming in smaller, remote communities throughout the NWT, and $150,000 to support community libraries. This money brings books to northern communities to give residents access to resources they need to improve their literacy.

Another focus on our revised strategy is for those NWT adults who have not finished high school. ECE is in the process of implementing an adult diploma equivalent to the NWT Secondary School Diploma. The new model allows NWT adults to earn a Grade 12 diploma through a combination of academic course credits and prior learning assessment and recognition credits. Education, Culture and Employment is presently working to put the supports for the adult high school diploma in place.

Mr. Speaker, youth literacy is also a critical area of concern in the Northwest Territories. We are investing in youth literacy by $250,000, focusing on

youth between 16 and 25 years of age. We are specifically targeting out-of-school and at-risk youth. To reach this vulnerable group, we are working with youth centres across the NWT to emphasize the importance of literacy and help young people develop their literacy skills.

The department is also undertaking a Youth Literacy Gap Analysis to look into best practices and practical steps that we can take to increase youth literacy in the Northwest Territories. A Youth Literacy Working Group was established that will direct the work on the Youth Literacy Gap Analysis. Recommendations from the report will be used to develop a youth literacy action plan for the duration of the strategy.

Mr. Speaker, with 11 official languages, it is also important to encourage Northerners to use their traditional languages. We are increasing our emphasis on supporting aboriginal language literacy, emphasizing the importance of being able to speak in the indigenous languages of the North. This will form part of a larger plan to invigorate and support aboriginal languages.

Mr. Speaker, in closing, we also established a Literacy Strategy Advisory Committee which represents all regions of the Northwest Territories and include representation from the NWT Literacy Council and Aurora College, as well as other organizations that have a strong interest and commitment to literacy. This committee will guide the implementation of the NWT Literacy Strategy. Literacy is important to everyone, from infants to elders, in all official languages and requires the involvement and support of everyone in society in order to achieve our goals. We look forward to continuing to work with our many partners to increase literacy awareness and levels in the NWT. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister’s Statement 16-16(4): NWT Literacy Strategy

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Item 3, Members’ statements. The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Emergency Communication Capacity Along Highway No. 3

Members’ Statements

Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I want to talk about the Department of Transportation and its Minister.

Mr. Speaker, in the South Slave we are happy to have roads. We have a good road network system. I empathize with those who are from areas where that is still an aspiration to be realized. But, Mr. Speaker, I want to talk a bit about the Department of Transportation and their responsiveness to the issues that I have raised with the Minister and in this House, and I hope my colleagues don’t feel

bad, because I realize that not everybody loves the Department of Transportation.

Mr. Speaker, when I went to the ferry crossing one year and the ferry was out, and I got all the way to Fort Providence before I realized that, I suggested they get a solar powered sign outside of Yellowknife that tells what the status of the ferry is, and they did that right away and it worked out very, very well. I asked for a roadside turnout between Enterprise and the border, and right, just like magic, there went up the sign and there was the roadside turnout.

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Emergency Communication Capacity Along Highway No. 3

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Emergency Communication Capacity Along Highway No. 3

Members’ Statements

Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Mr. Speaker, just recently I asked the Minister, I said, why has the road been chipsealed between Enterprise and Hay River for three months and the lines haven’t been painted on. And, like, 24 hours later I was on the road and there were all the lines on the road.

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Emergency Communication Capacity Along Highway No. 3

Members’ Statements

Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

I went to the Minister about a steel supply contact that we didn’t feel had been resolved fairly, and it was resolved to the satisfaction of my constituent. We had a gravel crushing contract that was not being resolved to the satisfaction of a constituent and it went our way.

Mr. Speaker, I raised the issue of the graffiti on the sign at the border, and I know that the Minister’s not responsible for Justice, but the next day the corrections inmates were out there and repainted the sign at the border. Mr. Speaker, I told the Minister we didn’t need a bridge at the Deh Cho, we didn’t need the Deh Cho Bridge, but he didn’t listen to me. But I guess you can’t win them all.

Mr. Speaker, today I have another great idea. Mr. Speaker, the issue of black ice on the roads that are paved and chipsealed has become a real problem. It is a problem this time of year, and just last night my husband and I stopped just north of the border to check a vehicle that was rolled in the ditch. We did not know we were on black ice until we touched the brakes to stop and try and help someone while we were going by.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the Minister of Transportation today if it would be possible to get another solar powered sign, perhaps at the border, so people can phone in and let people know that are coming behind them that there are hazardous road conditions. Those could be posted remotely to make the road safer for the travelling public. Thank you.

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Emergency Communication Capacity Along Highway No. 3

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Chipsealing The Deh Cho Trail

Members’ Statements

Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is interesting my Member’s statement is on transportation.

---Laughter

I certainly hope he listens. Mr. Speaker. I have spoken many times in the past about the need to improve the Deh Cho Trail and the improvements this would mean to the safety of residents, truck drivers and tourists. It would also be beneficial to the economy. The Deh Cho Trail, Highway No. 1 from the Providence cut-off to Checkpoint and all the way down Highway No. 7 to the B.C. border is a route that the residents of the Deh Cho travel regularly for work, to attend appointments and to visit family and friends. They depend on the road for the delivery of goods to their communities.

The Deh Cho Trail is also a scenic road trip. Tourists can drive north from Alberta and along the way visit beautiful waterfalls, well-equipped camping facilities and several Deh Cho communities. They can continue their journey on to Fort Simpson or follow the Liard River to Fort Liard on the way down to B.C. This circle route is well promoted by Industry, Tourism and Investment to national and international visitors to our Territory and is an important part of our tourism infrastructure. If the Northwest Territories portion was upgraded, the route would increase the popularity.

A main concern about the road, for both residents and tourists, Mr. Speaker, is safety and reliability. When the road was washed out last year and closed for several weeks, it had a big impact on Fort Liard residents. The cost of groceries and other essentials went up, because items certainly had to be shipped by air.

We must ensure that this road is safe and reliable on a year-round basis. The logical solution is to make it a priority to property upgrade this portion of the highway infrastructure with chipseal, Mr. Speaker. I am pleased that the capital estimates for 2009-2010 did indicate some 70 kilometres of work on Highway No. 1 and the Deh Cho will be completed early in the 2010 construction season, Mr. Speaker.

I urge the Minister of Transportation to include the chipsealing of the Deh Cho Trail in the capital plan for the next two years. The benefits to the economy, to tourism and the safety of travellers would be the legacy of this 16th Assembly. Mahsi

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Chipsealing The Deh Cho Trail

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Krutko .

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GNWT Repairs Required To Joe Greenland Centre

Members’ Statements

David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister of Social Services announced last week they are establishing a new committee, the Territorial Administration Committee, to look at the administration of applicants to a long-term care facility. Mr. Speaker, I think that we, as a Territory, realize that we have some tenant facilities throughout the Northwest Territories, small facilities like in the Joe Greenland Centre in Aklavik to a large facility such as the Dementia Centre here in Yellowknife. Mr.

Speaker, I think it is essential that we ensure that we have a fair and equitable access for process but, more importantly, from the aboriginal people and the aboriginal communities that we like to keep our loved ones as close to home as possible in regards to the culture, language and, more importantly, the food that people depend on.

Mr. Speaker, it is critical that, as a government, these facilities are used with the best available clients and the people in need. Mr. Speaker, we do have to ensure that all facilities are operated at their potential capacity and ensure that all treatment facilities or facilities are provided essential services to carry out that responsibility. Mr. Speaker, I state that because the Joe Greenland Centre is repaired and in need of some major repairs in regards to the assessments that have been done. Some repairs have taken place, but a lot of repairs still have to be concluded.

This is an aging facility, but again I would like to bring it to the attention of the Minister of Health and Social Services that when we look at facilities throughout the Northwest Territories, we have to assess them all on the same term and basis to ensure that they all operate in regard to the same type of condition rating, but, more importantly, ensure that they are filled to capacity.

Mr. Speaker, my fear is that facilities such as the Joe Greenland Centre are going to be shunned away because of the simple size of this, and the larger facilities will receive all the attention. Mr. Speaker, I hope that is not the case. At the appropriate time I will be asking the Minister of Health and Social Services questions regarding this decision. Thank you.

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GNWT Repairs Required To Joe Greenland Centre

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko . The honourable Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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Recreation Leaders Day

Members’ Statements

Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Unknown to many of us, I imagine, is the fact that today has been declared Recreation Leaders Day. Our very own NWT Recreation and Parks Association is highlighting the contribution of recreation leaders in

our Territory by declaring October 26th as

Recreation Leaders Day.

Members of this House often speak of the importance and the need for programs and activities for our youth. They also give tribute to those residents in our communities who step up and provide the necessary programs and activities for our youth and for all residents of our communities.

Recreation leaders come in many shapes and sizes, Mr. Speaker. They are volunteers, they are professionals, they are young, they are old, they are male, they are female, they are people like the Yellowknife Snow King, they are our facility maintainers, they are Arctic Winter Games team coaches and Arctic Winter Games regional coordinators, they are Nordic walking instructors, they’re the teachers in our schools who open the gym at night so the kids can be active, the ones who lead the on-the-land camps, the ones who start music and craft groups after school. The list is endless.

But all of these people have one thing in common: they willingly give of their time and expertise to further recreation activities for NWT residents; recreation activities which are indoors, outdoors, all seasons of the year. Each and every day our rec leaders provide invaluable community support in recreation and sport.

The value of participation in recreational activities is well known. Recreation, sport, fitness, arts, culture, parks, are all essential to personal, social, economic and environmental well-being. Engaging in recreational activities leads to happier, more positive lives for people of all ages. It provides healthy activities for our youth to keep them away from the unhealthy ones. It provides activities for our elders to keep them healthy, happy and young at heart.

The enthusiasm and leadership shown by our rec leaders makes huge contributions to the social and economic wellness of the NWT and to our communities. Rec leaders, through their actions, encourage all of us to achieve better health and well-being as individuals. The motto of the NWT Recreation and Parks Association is: Recreation for Life. Today we acknowledge those people who make sure that NWT residents can live up to that motto. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Recreation Leaders Day

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . The honourable Member for Weledeh , Mr. Bromley .

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Recognizing The Importance Of Climate Change Issues

Members’ Statements

Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to recognize and applaud current best efforts of our citizens, aboriginal governments and non-government organizations to meet key

environmental challenges and to point out opportunities now before us for greater progress.

On the critical issue of climate change, I am happy to see our government making strong first steps, and I also note our partners at the City of Yellowknife are making remarkable progress with a community energy plan meeting their original targets well ahead of

schedule through such actions as improved energy efficiency standards for buildings, shifts to wood pellet heat and even pursuit of geothermal energy at the former Con Mine.

I want to recognize a group of dedicated citizens who organized a Climate Justice Now march just this Saturday in a run-up to Kyoto negotiations in Copenhagen this December, calling for strong action by all governments to combat climate change. This reminded me of a summer gathering in Inuvik of youth from across Canada committed to fighting climate change. It was organized by Ecology North, the Pembina Institute, the Gwich’in Council International, the Arctic Athabaskan Council and Climate Action Network Canada. The Inuvik Declaration they produced makes several important observations. We’ve done a lot, but we must do more.

It is time for governments to set ambitious science-based targets for greenhouse gas reductions in the NWT and Canada. The federal position on combating climate change is an embarrassment to Canada and an immediate threat to the safety and security of northern citizens and indigenous people in particular. Science shows that Canada and the world must reduce greenhouse gas production by 25 percent by 2020 from 1990 levels if we are to avoid disastrous and accelerating consequences.

We must assist developing countries to reduce their emissions and adopt new technologies. We must also make the strongest possible efforts to shift our federal government to a more responsible and progressive position.

Mr. Speaker, I urge our Members and this government to take firm action, to think locally with a firm and ambitious NWT carbon neutral date and a plan to get there, and to act globally by strongly urging the federal government to accept our international responsibilities and dramatically improve our position at the Copenhagen negotiations of the new Kyoto Protocol this December, and I will be asking our Minister of the Environment some questions about that, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Recognizing The Importance Of Climate Change Issues

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . The honourable Member for Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Cost Of Living Issues In The Sahtu

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. What if you went to a grocery store on your way home today to buy a few basic things like four litres of milk and some dish soap, and it costs you $25? Some people might think it was a mistake, but not if you live in Fort Good Hope. It’s normal.

Mr. Speaker, the cost of living in the Sahtu is amongst the highest in the Northwest Territories. We’re paying through our teeth. At $2.42 per kilowatt for electricity, Colville Lake pays the highest power rate of all Northwest Territories communities. Let’s start by having some real discussions on a review of the electrical rates in the Northwest Territories.

Four litres of milk costs around $13.29 in Fort Good Hope, compared to $4.59 in Yellowknife or $7.49 in Inuvik. We need to have a real Food Mail Program so that all milk is the same price everywhere.

The average income in our communities is $42,604 per year. Most employment opportunities are only part-time or seasonal. In Tulita, where the average income is $31,800, 35 percent of the households are in core need. That’s more than twice the territorial average. The price of groceries limits the number of healthy choices families can make.

One of the goals of the 16th Legislative Assembly is

to reduce the cost of living. We should invest in more efficient ways to get energy and power into our communities. We need an all-weather road into our communities. Our people should be able to afford the house they live in. We should encourage local stores to shelve our local meat and fish. We need to create jobs by developing renewable resources like tourism, like the Doi T’oh Park or implementing woodchip or other wood product industries like a firewood cutting service for seniors. These may not be high paying jobs, but they would go a long way to helping our families and they support the Assembly’s goals.

Some of the solutions require large investments upfront, but they will benefit our people far longer than most subsidies. Our people deserve the opportunity to succeed. Let’s give them our hope.

I believe it’s time for a new way of thinking. We need to be creative and it’s often said that we need to think outside the box, but right now far too many people in my region, and maybe other people in the other regions, feel that we are cornered into a box waiting to be busted out. Some people are living…

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Mr. Yakeleya , your time for Member’s statement has expired.

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted.

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, colleagues. Some people are living in poverty in this wealthy Northwest Territories, but it shouldn’t be the case, and we here in the House have the responsibility to be creative and do something to change this. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe , Mr. Beaulieu .

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Establishment Of A New Territorial Park In Tu Nedhe

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker. Today I would like to talk about establishing a new territorial park in the Tu Nedhe riding near Fort Resolution. Having recently returned from a community visit to Fort Resolution, I met with a group of residents who informed me of their desire to establish a new territorial park. Currently, I believe, there has been some discussion around establishing a territorial park at Mission Island; however, there is some concern over this, because Mission Island holds significant spiritual interest for the community.

Mr. Speaker, many residents do not want to see this sensitive area turned into a tourist attraction. The community would like to see a new territorial park established elsewhere. They have identified a location just outside the community, along the Slave River.

Mr. Speaker, being raised in Fort Resolution, I am familiar with the area and I can say it’s a beautiful, scenic spot and would make an ideal location for a territorial park. Both the Slave River and the community of Fort Resolution have equal historical significance in the Northwest Territories. Fort Resolution is the oldest community in the NWT, first established in the late 1700s. The community has been designated as a national historic site, only one of four in the NWT. The Slave River has played a key role in opening the North. Famous explorers such as Samuel Hearne, Sir John Franklin and Alexander Mackenzie travelled this river enroute to their historical journeys.

Today, Mr. Speaker, the Slave River area supports a strong traditional subsistence activity of hunting, trapping and fishing for many residents. The basin area of the Slave River of 616,400 square kilometres and, again, I repeat, is one of the scenic jewels of our North.

Mr. Speaker, establishing a new territorial park will have both immediate and long-term significance in economic impacts for the community, immediate benefits during the construction phase and long-term benefits for maintenance and use for the park. One of the issues I have been raising in the House is a lack of employment and economic opportunity for the community.

Mr. Speaker, there will be increased revenues from tourists using this park. This project is a win/win for everyone; for people who live in Fort Resolution and for people that will use the park. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . The honourable Member for Great Slave , Mr. Abernethy .

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Need For Renovations In J.h. Sissons/ Yk Aurora Campus Educational Facilities

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, last Tuesday, while discussing the capital investments within the Department of Education, Culture and Employment, I made some comments on two projects that I felt were missing from the 2009-2010 Capital Plan; specifically the J.H. Sissons School and the Yellowknife Campus for Aurora College. For clarity, I want to point out I am not requesting that the GNWT turn J.H. Sissons into the new Yellowknife Campus or that Sissons be shut down. There is no evidence, in my opinion, to suggest that such an action would be appropriate and no research, that I am aware of, has been done.

For the record, I reconfirmed with the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment that the department has no plans in place to shut down any schools in Yellowknife.

My statement on Tuesday was intended to encourage the Department of Education, Culture and Employment and the GNWT to think outside the box and to consider all avenues to address our capital and infrastructure needs. As a government spending public dollars, we must look for ways to maximize the dollars that we spend to ensure that we get the best results for our investments.

I mentioned Sissons only because I was already talking about Sissons School as a project that has clearly fallen off the capital plan. I am sorry for any stress that this reference to Sissons may have caused parents, teachers and students.

However, currently Sissons is part of a much larger problem. The problem of enrolment. Yellowknife is faced with a rapidly declining enrolment. Running schools that are only half filled increases costs significantly. High costs for students in facilities operating with low enrolment actually take dollars out of the programs for our children, money which could be used to enhance programming like immersion programs, if the system better utilized space.

My first concern is the education of our youth. I want this government to enhance programming that will give our youth the best results and prepare them for the world and their future in it. Enrolment

in Yellowknife has continuously dropped since 2002-2003 from 3,751 to 3,462 in 2008-2009. Projected numbers for 2009-2010 are even lower at 3,380.

Mr. Speaker, we the residents of the Northwest Territories, including the residents of Yellowknife, Members of this Legislative Assembly and the public school board, will be faced with significant challenges, many which are financial, over the coming years. Hard decisions will need to be made; decisions will be required, but cannot be done in the absence of research. Hard questions need to be asked.

I am committed to working with all interested stakeholders to find reasonable and responsible solutions; solutions that work in the best interest of Northerners, solutions which may include reprofiling school facilities.

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted.

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Need For Renovations In J.h. Sissons/ Yk Aurora Campus Educational Facilities

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, this will require individuals to ask hard and, occasionally, controversial questions. For the sake of the children and their quality of education, I’m willing to ask these hard questions so that the relevant information can be collected and help decision-makers make informed and responsible decisions. Mr. Speaker, I will continue to encourage this government to think outside the box and challenge the status quo. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Need For Renovations In J.h. Sissons/ Yk Aurora Campus Educational Facilities

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . The honourable Member for Nunakput , Mr. Jacobson .

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Local Housing Subsidy Program

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Jackie Jacobson

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today my Member’s statement is on the Local Housing Subsidy Program. Several sessions ago we gave the government instructions to review the Public Housing Subsidy Program, because since transferring administration from local housing organizations to the Department of Education, Culture and Employment there has been some serious problems on the delivery of the program.

Years ago when the government was first considering transferring the administration to ECE, many local housing organizations told the local government what the real problem was, and that was that the local housing authorities did not have the adequate resources to properly administer the programs. Mr. Speaker, however, the government is convinced that only the Department of ECE can properly run the program.

Over the years my constituents have expressed concerns with the way the public housing rental subsidy has been administered. Francis Wolki has

been very vocal with her community and how it has affected these changes. She’s concerned with the people who have been in the same houses for years, never giving their LHOs any problems and recently getting letters of eviction.

Mr. Speaker, our region has a petition circulating to review all the regional leadership, urging all MLAs to work aggressively with this government to develop a solution to these issues. Housing is a core responsibility of the government. However, I expressed previously, recently developments of the government seem to contradict this principle. The housing conditions or the program implementation, especially for small and remote communities, has been in a crisis situation for quite some time.

The recent changes of the Income Support Policy in relation to the community housing support has only created a worsening situation. The housing conditions in small communities such as Paulatuk are facing serious problems that the government must address.

Mr. Speaker, I urge this government to transfer the administration of the Public Housing Subsidy Program back to local housing authorities, with adequate resources to properly administer the program. Local governments know their communities’ issues best.

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted.

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Local Housing Subsidy Program

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Jackie Jacobson

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I urge this government to transfer the administration of the Public Housing Subsidy Program back to local housing authorities, with adequate resources to properly administer the program. Local governments know their communities and issues best. They know the best ways to administer the programs.

Mr. Speaker, I’ll have questions for the appropriate Minister. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Jacobson . The honourable Member for Kam Lake , Mr. Ramsay .

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H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccination

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today marks the first day of a mass vaccination against the spread of H1N1 -- Swine Flu -- in our Territory. Nationwide, this will be the largest mass vaccination and immunization program in Canadian history.

Like many parents, my wife and I find ourselves struggling over whether or not to give our two-year-old son this H1N1 vaccine. We’re even wondering, Mr. Speaker, whether or not we should get the shot ourselves.

I want to be clear that the Department of Health and Social Services is doing a great job at providing information about H1N1, and their website and public announcements have been good. I’m concerned over the fact that Health Canada is supplying the vaccine that our Minister of Health likes to refer to as the Cadillac version of a vaccine, to our residents and to the people of Canada. This vaccine, known as Arepanrix, contains such ingredients and formaldehyde and potassium chloride. Are we getting that information out to our residents?

Mr. Speaker, in the United States many parents are saying no to this vaccine. In China, over half the population says they don’t want it and, indeed, there are many Canadians and residents here in our Territory that will say no to the vaccine.

Mr. Speaker, I know that these vaccines are different, depending on which country you live in. For example, in Australia they were using a vaccine called Panvax. This vaccine does not contain formaldehyde, like Arepanrix does. So there certainly are differences.

Mr. Speaker, like any vaccine, there are side effects associated with Arepanrix. I would like to advise those residents that want to know more about the vaccine, to visit Health Canada’s website for a product information leaflet on the Arepanrix vaccine. It certainly is enlightening.

It’s certainly not my intention today to scare people away from getting the vaccine, and at the end of the day, when you weigh the odds and the fact that I couldn’t stand to see my son become sick with H1N1 and hospitalized, he’ll probably end up getting the vaccine.

Given the fact that getting this vaccine can, in rare cases, cause serious issues with the nervous system and paralysis, I’m wondering will those adversely affected have any legal recourse with the government. Do people receiving this vaccine have to sign a waiver, are people fully informed of the ingredients of this vaccine prior to it being administered, and are they asked about allergies, especially to eggs, Mr. Speaker? At the appropriate time I’ll have questions for the Minister of Health and Social Services . Thank you.

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H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccination

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This afternoon I’d like to talk about barrier-free schools and playgrounds. It is my understanding, Mr. Speaker, that this government stands for inclusive education and has for a long time. The issue being raised today is that some parents recently

If we want education to be inclusive, we need it to be fully barrier-free at all levels, from door to door, and that includes the playground. Mr. Speaker, buildings being built today are certainly taking these considerations into effect, but the old schools that have been built years ago do not necessarily have all the standards to meet the modern needs of today. Mr. Speaker, this is a territorial problem, not just a Yellowknife problem, and I would say that every school should have the ability to say their school and playground is as accessible as reasonably possible. I cannot say that enough, that all schools need to have this, again a territorial program.

Mr. Speaker, the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment needs to work to develop a long-term strategy that ensures that all schools and playgrounds are accessible. I realize funding just doesn’t fall from the tree, but I certainly know that some strategy could be developed.

Mr. Speaker, the call to arms to deal with this problem was when the parents decided to set up a link on the N.J. Macpherson website to get parents to help vote to get funding for their program. There is a group organization called Aviva Community Fund and they, based on votes from parents, will give away money to schools to help them with this problem.

Mr. Speaker, our playgrounds are special places for our youth as they grow up. I know that the Minister understands this, having so many children himself, the importance of good education and children having fun. So, Mr. Speaker, I urge this government to take this problem seriously and to do what it can today to help those kids of our tomorrow. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery.

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Colleagues, I’d like to draw your attention to the gallery today to the presence of Mr. Gerry Gerrand, our Conflict of Interest Commissioner. I’d like to welcome everyone in the gallery today. I hope

you’re enjoying the proceedings. It’s nice to have an audience in here.

Item 6, acknowledgements. The honourable Member for Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Acknowledgements

Acknowledgements

Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, today I would like to recognize and send my congratulations to Mr. Glen Guthrie of the Sahtu.

Mr. Guthrie was awarded the Lloyd Cook Award for his commitment to further educate the public on wildlife management.

Mr. Speaker, this award is a national recognition with the Fur Industry of Canada, and we offer our heartfelt thanks to Glen for his hard work with people, especially with the youth. Mahsi cho.

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Acknowledgements

Acknowledgements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . Item 7, oral questions. The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Question 69-16(4): Emergency Communication Capacity Along Highway No. 3

Oral Questions

Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are for the Minister of Transportation . I, in my statement, thanked the Department of Transportation for their responsiveness to issues. The issue of icing, whether it be on airplanes, on highways, this is the time of year it would seem that there is a great potential, when the temperature is hovering around zero, for there to be icy conditions.

Mr. Speaker, between the NWT border and Enterprise is a very long stretch of highway which does not have good cell phone service. I know this because when we came upon this rolled truck last night at 8:40, and by the time we checked under it and around it to see if there were any victims at the site, until we got to report it to the RCMP over an hour had passed, Mr. Speaker.

So I’m asking the Minister today if he thinks there would be merit in having an energized solar power-supplied sign at the border and one at Enterprise that could be remotely programmed to contain information about that long stretch of highway, so that if someone going over the road discovers an accident or discovers hazardous road conditions, if that could be programmed to send that message out to prevent someone else from getting in that accident. Even stopping on the highway to check out an accident creates another potential for vehicles to get into difficulty on black ice. Thank you.

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Question 69-16(4): Emergency Communication Capacity Along Highway No. 3

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . Honourable Minister responsible for Transportation , Mr. Michael McLeod .

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Question 69-16(4): Emergency Communication Capacity Along Highway No. 3

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Member raises an important safety concern that we have on all our highways, especially the highways that have chipseal. We have been looking at a number of ways to try to deal with this issue, and then try to raise the awareness through the public and the people on the highway system during the times when we have challenges. We’ve incorporated a maintenance

schedule that would allow us to have staff on the highway system seven days a week so that they can closely monitor, especially during the winter months, the events that are happening.

We’ve also brought on stream, over the last couple of years, a number of traffic signs, lit variable signs that we can use, and this year we’re going to have a number of new ones, with a total of eight signs that give a number of responses to the travelling public, including bison locations, speed limits, it will measure how fast you’re going, and we think it has merit. I think the Member’s suggestion is a good one. We can certainly take a look at it.

We are trying to do other things that would help us in this area, including we’ve installed a road weather information system that runs on solar energy and would provide information back to our maintenance camps so that we have information readily available. That may be something that we can incorporate on Highway No. 1 that would help us out with this issue of black ice. Thank you.

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Question 69-16(4): Emergency Communication Capacity Along Highway No. 3

Oral Questions

Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Mr. Speaker, I mentioned, as well, that when one has the unfortunate experience of coming upon an accident that’s already occurred, there are no shoulders on the road on that stretch of highway I’m talking about. So for an example, last night we had to basically stay right in the lane with our four-way flashers on, and someone coming around a curve, and they touch their brakes, you have the potential for another accident. So I guess I’d like to ask the Minister, in that particular stretch of highway, what are the plans for expanding the shoulder? There are no shoulders on that road now.

They go to the edge of the pavement or the chipseal and it’s just a straight drop-off on the gravel. Thank you.

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Question 69-16(4): Emergency Communication Capacity Along Highway No. 3

Oral Questions

Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Mr. Speaker, we’ve incorporated a four-year plan to deal with the issue that the Member’s raising on Highway No. 1 from the border to Enterprise and further down towards Highway No. 3. The road width is, I think, eight metres and we are planning to expand and widen the road to a 12-metre roadway system that will allow us to park on the shoulders. We’re also looking at ways to incorporate a number of pull-offs that would assist people that are travelling and want to rest or stop for various reasons. Thank you.

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Question 69-16(4): Emergency Communication Capacity Along Highway No. 3

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Another feature that the Department of Transportation instituted at the ferry crossing was a live camera, a camera where people could go on line, go to the Department of Transportation website on the Internet and actually view what was happening with the ferry crossing. Is there any anticipation of the department expanding the webcam network so that more points on the highway system can be viewed by those who are thinking about venturing out and travelling? Thank you.

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Question 69-16(4): Emergency Communication Capacity Along Highway No. 3

Oral Questions

Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Mr. Speaker, as of now, the request for a camera at the ferry crossing has been something we were considering. We don’t have it built into our budget yet, but we certainly can take a look at it.

Yes, we continue to look at ways to expand our information collection through the intelligent systems that we have. If the Member had driven in, I am not sure if she drove into Yellowknife yesterday, but as she turned onto Highway No. 3, her vehicle would have been weighed, her speed recorded and the classification all documented. We have cameras on Highway No. 3. We have two cameras set up in Yellowknife that collect information. We have video collection units on two of the intersections here in the city that study traffic volumes, turning patterns and also vehicle classifications.

There are a number of things that we have on the go. We would like to expand that to other road systems. At this point, some still are in the early testing stages. We will continue to monitor that. Thank you.

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Question 69-16(4): Emergency Communication Capacity Along Highway No. 3

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Question 69-16(4): Emergency Communication Capacity Along Highway No. 3

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

When you go on the website and you type in the AMA, Alberta Motor Association, they have the list of the cameras and they go all the way down through all the highway systems in Alberta. Maybe we could talk to Alberta and see if we can be added onto that network without creating our own. It is just an idea. I don’t know if you can rename it something that people would know but, anyway, to go on and advise the travelling public of what kind of conditions the roads are in would be helpful. Thank you.

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

I certainly agree. Our budget of $126 million, compared to I think Alberta is $20 million for transportation, is a little bit not what we would like to see, but we continue to try to bring information. I appreciate the Member’s comments, because we need to be able to provide the travelling public on road conditions, black ice and bison location. We need to be able to enforce speed limits and any other concerns of safety on our highways, including the width and being able to stop in emergency situations. We will continue to move forward on that. Thank you.

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Question 69-16(4): Emergency Communication Capacity Along Highway No. 3

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe , Mr. Beaulieu .

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Question 70-16(4): Establishment Of New Territorial Park In Tu Nedhe

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I spoke about establishing a new territorial park near the community of Fort Resolution. I would like to follow up with my questions to the Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment . Mr. Speaker, can the Minister tell me in general terms what the process for identifying and establishing a new territorial park is? Thank you.

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Question 70-16(4): Establishment Of New Territorial Park In Tu Nedhe

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . The honourable Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment , Mr. Bob McLeod .

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Question 70-16(4): Establishment Of New Territorial Park In Tu Nedhe

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The most important consideration in establishing a territorial park would be to have community support and the community would identify the area for consideration. On our part, we would then undertake serious consultations with all affected stakeholders and certainly we would review our NWT Parks Act to see which category would best fit to meet the community’s request. We would also have to have Government of the Northwest Territories departments review it. Once we got closer to actual establishment, we would need a park management plan.

We would probably need an Order-in-Council to transfer the land. We would design the park and then, of course, we would have to come to seek capital to establish the park. That is one process.

Another process that other regions have used to establish parks are to go through the land claims negotiations process, but from what I understand, the process I described probably is closer to what the community wants to do. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Mr. Speaker, I believe the initial process will be closer to what the community is looking for. It is more of a campsite, although it is referred to as a territorial park. Can the Minister confirm if there is any funding in place for establishing this type of park in and around the area of Fort Resolution? Thank you.

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

We would have some funding to do some planning work. I think that once we get closer to something concrete, we would have to identify funds through our capital plans. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 70-16(4): Establishment Of New Territorial Park In Tu Nedhe

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Mr. Speaker, will the Minister commit to working with me a little closer and also working with the community to getting the wheels in motion for establishing a park in this new area that I am talking about? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

I would be pleased to work with the Member and the community of Tu Nedhe towards establishing this park. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 70-16(4): Establishment Of New Territorial Park In Tu Nedhe

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final supplementary, Mr. Beaulieu .

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Question 70-16(4): Establishment Of New Territorial Park In Tu Nedhe

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Would the Minister also commit to visiting with the community? It is a bit of a controversial issue around the establishment of the park in a different area. Would the Minister agree to meet with me and the leadership and other interest groups to talk about this new proposed site himself in the near future? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

I would be pleased to visit the community with the Member and certainly anything we can do to help to facilitate, we will try to do. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 70-16(4): Establishment Of New Territorial Park In Tu Nedhe

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Kam Lake , Mr. Ramsay .

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Question 71-16(4): H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccination

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are for the Minister of Health and Social Services . It gets back to my Member’s statement where I was talking about H1N1 and the ingredients that are contained in that vaccine, Arepanrix. I would like to ask the Minister, before our residents are vaccinated with this vaccine, are they going to be fully made aware of all the ingredients of that vaccine? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 71-16(4): H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccination

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The honourable Minister for Health and Social Services , Ms. Lee .

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Question 71-16(4): H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccination

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Range Lake

Sandy Lee

Minister of Health and Social Services

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to thank the Member for the question. Just before the House today I took the opportunity to go to the flu clinic at the multiplex and I was pleasantly surprised that there was actually a line-up of people before the clinic opened. Once I got there, the room was full of residents who were taking on this offer to vaccinate. I was joined by the chief public health officer, Dr. Kandola, and she brought her child, as well as the president of the Medical Association and Mr. Dolynny, the pharmacist. My point being that I think these are people who have a lot of knowledge about this vaccine and they have studied that.

In fact, last week I remember talking to Dr. Kandola. They just got a study/clinical results on children on the impact of the vaccine on the children. These scientific results show that this vaccine showed more positive effects on younger children than even the GSK had originally thought. Mr. Speaker, Public Health Canada recommends this vaccine and, yes, when the residents go to get their vaccines, there

are staff there to answer any questions they may have. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Mr. Speaker, again, that is a nice story. I am glad people are getting their shot, but the question I had for the Minister was: at the multiplex today were there product information leaflets available to the public who are getting their shot that clearly indicates every ingredient in that vaccine, Mr. Speaker? By the sounds of it, people have to ask what is in it. I don’t think that is appropriate. I think that we should be providing the public with that type of information. I would like to ask the Minister, if that isn’t the case, if she could provide that level of information to our residents. Thank you.

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Range Lake

Sandy Lee

Minister of Health and Social Services

Mr. Speaker, I could assure the Member and perhaps I think anybody could go to the clinic there. I want to tell the House that the staff and the public health officer have been working really hard to answer any questions any residents have. I am aware that people have been calling about the ingredients. I know those questions are being answered. When a resident walks into the clinic, there is lots of staff there. There are nurses, doctors, anybody at the door and people are greeted and they are made to feel at ease. This is happening right now at the multiplex.

I understand the Member’s concern. I think it is very important. At the end of the day, a decision as to whether they are going to take this vaccine or not is a personal decision. A lot of parents and everybody has to make that decision. I was happy to see that a lot of the people were there and taking the vaccine. I want to assure the Member that there are lots of health care professionals there answering any question that any resident may have about this vaccine and the vaccination program. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Again, of course, people can ask questions. I think the Minister knows full well what I am saying. I would like to see a piece of paper there that clearly identifies what is in this vaccine, because on the Department of Health’s website, you can’t find exactly what the ingredients are in that vaccine. I had to go to Health Canada and I had to dig it out myself. Again, that is a product information leaflet on Arepanrix, if anybody is interested in finding that.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to also ask the Minister, given the possibility, then, that there are side effects with the vaccination, is there a waiver that people have to sign or is there any legal recourse if somebody should have a serious adverse side effect to the vaccination? Thank you.

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Range Lake

Sandy Lee

Minister of Health and Social Services

Mr. Speaker, there is no waiver for anyone to sign, and nobody has to take this vaccine unless there are questions that are answered. Mr. Speaker, I do have the ingredients in front of me. It says, split influenza virus, inactivated,

containing antigen equivalent to 3.75 micrograms haemagglutinin/dose, Antigen A/California, Excipients: Thimerosal, 2.6 mcg mercury/dose; sodium chloride, disodium hydrogen phosphate, potassium dihydrogen phosphate, potassium. Mr. Speaker, my point being, if somebody was there to read this label, would that help people to decide whether they should take this? My point being, we have people who are trained to understand this, people who are concerned about public health issues.

It is better for doctors and nurses and public health officers to explain, okay, what is in here, what does it do, what kind of side effects could it have, what kind of impact could it have on my child, what kind of studies did you do, what is it supposed to do, and then have people explain in normal language that we could all understand what this is. Then it is up to the people to decide whether they want to take it for their child or their family. I took my mother there. Dr. Kandola had her 18-month-old baby there. She had him vaccinated. So we are doing everything we can to assure the public. Thank you, Mr.

Speaker.

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Question 71-16(4): H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccination

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee . Final supplementary, Mr. Ramsay .

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Question 71-16(4): H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccination

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Mr. Speaker, the Minister forgot to say one of the ingredients on the list and that was formaldehyde. I would like to add that for her.

The other question I have, Mr. Speaker, on the Department of Health’s H1N1 flu site, it says at the end: “MYTH: because H1N1 vaccine is new, it is untested and unsafe. FACT:” -- and at the end of that statement it says -- “and no safety concerns have been found.” The reason, Mr. Speaker, I bring this up is because it is confusing for people out there when they do go to the Health Canada website and they see some of what are the side effects: very common; common; uncommon and rare; and the rare, one in a thousand; or very rare, one in 10,000.

So let’s just look at the very rare, one in 10,000. If we inject 40,000 in our Territory with this, chances are four of them are going to come up with a neurological disorder. That is the kind of information that I think has to get out there and people have to see that, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister, how come this isn’t available for people at the vaccination centres? Thank you.

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Question 71-16(4): H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccination

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Range Lake

Sandy Lee

Minister of Health and Social Services

I thinkit is important. This is a very serious public health issue. All of the experts are doing everything they can to get the information out. We should be very careful about not creating fear. I think what we want to do is to get the information out.

Mr. Speaker, I want to say, as the Minister of Health , that all vaccinations in Canada are subject to a very strict authorization process. They have a very high standard. The vaccine that is being used in Canada is not what is being used in the States.

Not only is it a different vaccine, it is a different type of vaccine and it is manufactured by different people. They are having clinical trials done in European countries. The reason why the implementation of this vaccine was delayed and was so bad, we would have enough time to get tested and the tests have shown and all of the public health officers have reviewed it. Dr.

Butler-Jones was in Yellowknife announcing it on Friday and they are recommending that the risks associated with this vaccine are so small compared to the sickness and serious hospitalization that would be required by our residents, it is especially important for our small communities and isolated areas to take this vaccine, because benefits far outweigh any risks that might come out from this vaccine. Thank you.

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Question 71-16(4): H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccination

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee . The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In my Member’s statement today I talked about the issue of barrier-free schools as well as their playgrounds. The issue at hand is simply that we have one particular school, and I have no doubt in my mind that there are many others throughout the Territory, that could use some support to make sure that the school and the playgrounds are barrier-free. Mr. Speaker, my hope is that the Minister will see this as a broader and long-term solution, recognizing, I know, we can’t solve every problem at once but we can certainly work towards doing our best today. Mr.

Speaker, my question is directed to the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment is: would he be able to look into this problem that N.J. Macpherson School is having, to see what support the Department of Education, Culture and Employment can provide at this time? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Lafferty .

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. This is definitely an area that we need to look at with the schools. We are trying to make it as accessible as we possibly can, especially with the older infrastructure barrier-free schools. Those are the areas that we are always improving and enhancing, whether it be playground equipment or school accessing, the railings and so forth. Certainly I will work with the school boards and also with our department and with the MLA on where we need to identify those areas. Mahsi.

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Speaker, I may applaud the Minister for a fantastic answer on dealing with this issue. Mr. Speaker, just one last question. I

certainly hope, as I view this as a territorial problem not just a Yellowknife problem -- and I stress that -- would the Minister look into the feasibility, and I stress, look into only the feasibility at this time about drawing it into a long-term program where we can ensure that all our schools are barrier-free and certainly accessible not just to our students but to our community? Because, as we all know, schools are schools during the day, but they are also the heart of the community in the evening when you want community functions and events. Mr. Speaker, I am looking towards the bigger picture.

Would the Minister take a look and see if it is feasible to set up a funding program that could work towards these needs? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, it is a territorial-wide challenge with some of these older facilities. So those are the areas that we need to highlight and my department has been working closely with the school boards to identify those areas barrier-free and try to identify some areas of funding, if that is required, working closely with the school boards. There are also parental advisory committees that we work closely with as well. Apparently there is funding allocated as well. Those are the areas that we need to discuss as a group. We will certainly talk further on this particular item. Mahsi.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Question 73-16(4): Chipsealing The Deh Cho Trail

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are for the Minister of Transportation and a follow-up on my Member’s statement. I know that this year we were supposed to have I think it was 70 kilometres of chipseal done from the Providence junction towards Fort Simpson. I know that it was issued later in the year. I just want to ask the Minister again, what are the current plans the department has to complete this work and how soon? Thank you.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . The honourable Minister of Transportation , Mr. Michael McLeod .

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Deh Cho

Michael McLeod

Minister of Transportation

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d have to go to the department and confirm, but I believe the project has been deferred until next year. There was some concern, as the season progressed, with the amount of rain that we got and the saturation that the road became. Mr. Speaker, it’s something that we’d still like to move forward on. There were questions raised by the Member on some of the other projects in his riding, including Highway No. 7 that we had to defer. It’s really unfortunate; however, we can’t control the weather, and we’ll commit to having those projects

moved forward as soon as possible in the new year.

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Certainly the residents of my riding were quite excited to have this project completed this year. However, we’re patient people and we’re glad to see that chipseal is coming, Mr. Speaker. I’d just like to know the department’s plans of any further work on chipsealing Highway No. 1 towards Fort Simpson beyond this in the new fiscal year 2010. Thank you.

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Deh Cho

Michael McLeod

Minister of Transportation

Mr. Speaker, we’ve got a fairly aggressive plan to work on Highway No. 1 and other projects in the Member’s riding, including Highway No. 7. We certainly have heard the comments he made in his Member’s statement on a number of occasions and we’ve put together a budget over the next four years where we’ll be targeting roughly $30 million to...All the portions that require reconstruction, that Highway No. 1, needs to be widened from the border to Enterprise.

We’re also looking at doing some reconstruction from the junction of Highway No. 3 towards Simpson and, of course, Highway No. 7 needs fairly significant investment in terms of upgrades. The road has been really deteriorating and it’s an aging piece of infrastructure with very poor soil conditions. We’re going to try to get that all fixed up as soon as we can. Thank you.

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Question 73-16(4): Chipsealing The Deh Cho Trail

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

I’m pleased that certainly the department is making great strides and hopefully we can accomplish a lot of this work in 2010. In terms of Highway No. 7, Fort Liard residents have seen the B.C. side. They actually chipsealed their road up to the B.C. border, and they’re asking me continuously when are we going to re-chipseal the road from Fort Liard back to the B.C. border once again. They’re also looking to see the completion of the reconstruction that’s occurring there. Thank you.

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Deh Cho

Michael McLeod

Minister of Transportation

Mr. Speaker, that’s a difficult question to answer at this point. We are still doing a lot of work on the Highway No. 7 section, including an engineering assessment and functional design. We’re also doing some of the necessary material preparation, crushing of the kilometre 3 and doing some of the upgrades that are required.

As to doing some actual chipseal, maybe. It’s not something that we’ve decided as of yet. It’s something that we’d like to do. Chipseal, of course, is something that really is dependent on the base and we’d have to be convinced that the road is going to hold up. It will be a decision that we will consider, but it’s not a decision we have made as of today. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final supplementary, Mr. Menicoche .

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Question 73-16(4): Chipsealing The Deh Cho Trail

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Is the Minister of Transportation prepared

to see that the chipseal will return to the residents of Fort Liard as they travel to B.C.? Thank you.

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Question 73-16(4): Chipsealing The Deh Cho Trail

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Deh Cho

Michael McLeod

Minister of Transportation

Mr. Speaker, it’s our goal to see chipseal applied to most of our roads, if not all of them, for the long term. As of yet, we haven’t been able to really prove that it will stay in sandy conditions such as the Fort Liard area. We know some work was done on the B.C. side. We’re going to take a look at that and see if we can do some test areas over the next while. We’d also like to do chipsealing on Highway No. 8 and other highways, for example.

We think it’s going to solve some of our safety issues and reduce some of the maintenance required, but we still have to ensure that it’s going to work and we have to make sure we have our technology all figured out before we do that. But that’s our goal.

We’re also, Mr. Speaker, trying out different products that we think may be more durable than chipseal. Of course, any time you start moving that area, the costs go up. There’s still a lot of work and a lot of research that we need to do, but that’s our intentions. Thank you.

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Question 73-16(4): Chipsealing The Deh Cho Trail

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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Question 74-16(4): Public Service Strategic Plan As It Relates To The Affirmative Action Policy

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are addressed to the Minister of Human Resources . I would like to thank the Minister for his statement about the NWT Public Service Strategic Plan and I would like to follow up with a couple of questions.

I note that the Minister talked about goal two under this plan: Engage: Magnetic Attraction. I’d like to know what’s in this particular plan relative to an evaluation of the GNWT’s Affirmative Action Policy, specifically in light of the priority lists as outlined not in the Affirmative Action Policy but in our Human Resource Manual. We have two lists, one for non-management jobs and one for management jobs, and they’re not the same. I’d like to know from the Minister what kind of an evaluation of the AA Policy is being contemplated specifically in terms of priority lists. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . The honourable Minister of Human Resources , Mr. Bob McLeod .

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Question 74-16(4): Public Service Strategic Plan As It Relates To The Affirmative Action Policy

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Yellowknife South

Bob McLeod

Minister of Human Resources

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have our Aboriginal Affirmative Action Committee that is helping us in reviewing the affirmative action plan and certainly we are also reviewing it with regard to the other categories that are provided for under that plan. Thank you.

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

I’m not quite sure; the Minister said an affirmative action plan. I don’t know if he meant plan or policy, but if there is a review going on, how encompassing is this review, what are the terms of reference of this review and when might we expect it? Thank you.

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Yellowknife South

Bob McLeod

Minister of Human Resources

We are having the committee work with each of the regions and we are expecting that they will come forward with some recommendations in approximately six months or so.

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Six months? I guess that’s great. I’m still not sure whether or not that encompasses looking at the priority lists in the resource manual, but I’ll leave it at that.

In the Minister’s statement, he referenced persons with disabilities at one point. I know that a working group was established in June of 2008 to deal with persons with disabilities to try to make things a little easier for them and to further their employment. I’d like to ask the Minister what work that working group did some 16, 18 months ago and how is that relevant to the review that he was referencing that will be done in six months’ time. Thank you.

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Yellowknife South

Bob McLeod

Minister of Human Resources

We’ve been doing a number of things. First of all, we’ve looked at different jurisdictions that have been doing some groundbreaking work in this area. We invited the Yukon to come and describe what process they took to work in increasing the representation of people with disabilities in the workforce. We had a workshop. We have had our committees working together. We have put in place sensitivity training for senior managers. So we are looking at the process of establishing an area that would focus entirely on increasing the representation of disabled people in the workforce.

As we speak, we are hiring more people. But as the Member knows, it’s a question of people self-identifying themselves and you can only self-identify yourself once. So right now we’re starting to see an increase and we’re continuing to do work in this area. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 74-16(4): Public Service Strategic Plan As It Relates To The Affirmative Action Policy

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final supplementary, Ms. Bisaro .

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Question 74-16(4): Public Service Strategic Plan As It Relates To The Affirmative Action Policy

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I could do a Member’s statement to the Minister’s reference to self-identification, so I guess I don’t have time for that right now.

I’d like to know from the Minister, though, I don’t think I heard in any of his answers that there will be any valuation of the priority list, that there will be a look at those two priority lists to, one, bring them together so that they actually match and people are listed in the same priority for each of them and to possibly change the priorities of various people within the Affirmative Action Policy. Is that possible? Thank you.

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Question 74-16(4): Public Service Strategic Plan As It Relates To The Affirmative Action Policy

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

We are looking at the priority lists, because affirmative action covers a number of different areas which deem to be priorities in the hiring of this government. Certainly it includes not only affirmative action employees, but also women in the workforce, all hard-to-hire areas and people with disabilities, and they’re broken up into different categories and we are looking at it to see if there are ways to make it more effective in our hiring practices. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 74-16(4): Public Service Strategic Plan As It Relates To The Affirmative Action Policy

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Great Slave , Mr. Abernethy .

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Question 75-16(4): Need For Renovations In J.h. Sissons/ Yk Aurora Campus Educational Facilities

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are for the Minister responsible for Education, Culture and Employment . Earlier today, during my Member’s statement, I mentioned the declining enrolments in Yellowknife. I was wondering if the Minister could please outline for us the enrolment levels for all of the Yellowknife schools for 2008-2009 school year. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . The honourable Minister responsible for Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Lafferty .

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Question 75-16(4): Need For Renovations In J.h. Sissons/ Yk Aurora Campus Educational Facilities

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Specifically for Yellowknife district, first of all, J.H. Sissons is at 57 percent utilization; Mildred Hall is at 56 percent; N.J. Macpherson is at 57 percent; Range Lake North is at 68 percent; Sir John Franklin is at 98 percent; William MacDonald is at 43 percent, Mr. Speaker. Mahsi.

Mr. Speaker, I forgot a couple more schools. Ecole St. Joe’s is at 80 percent; St. Pat’s, 111 percent; and Weledeh at 82 percent. Mahsi.

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you. Those are the 2008-2009 numbers, I believe. Are the numbers fairly consistent for the 2009-10 fiscal year and do we have some sort of projections on where enrolments are going to be going over the next, say, four or five years? Thank you.

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Question 75-16(4): Need For Renovations In J.h. Sissons/ Yk Aurora Campus Educational Facilities

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mahsi. With the projection of the enrolments, as the Member alluded to earlier, the enrolments are going down and we do have our department working on a five-year plan. Not only that, but we do have a consultant that’s working on the 10-year education facility plan for Yellowknife, all schools. So those are areas that we’re very concerned about, the enrolment and how we can deal with those issues and come out with solutions. So those are the areas of focus that we have with our department.

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thanks to the Minister for that response. The Minister made reference to a 10-year plan. I’m wondering if the Minister could go into a bit more detail about what the intent of that review and that plan is for us.

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

This particular piece of work will deal with enrolment, the data that will be collected the past years and also on a going forward basis, the past four years and also future direction for space planning. So those are the areas that will be focuse