Debates of March 3rd, 2017

This is page numbers 2165 – 2190 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was program .

Topics

Oral Questions

Members Present

Prayer

Minister’s Statement 155-18(2): Correction For New Generators For Yellowknife Power Plant

Co-Operation On 2017-2018 Budget

Progress On Access To Justice Legal Aid Commission Expands Outreach Services

Compromise On 2017-2018 Budget

Deline Men’s Hockey Tournament

Acho Dene School Trip To Spain

New Generators For Yellowknife Power Plant

March Events In Hay River

Giant Mine Oversight Board Research Funding

United Nations Declaration On The Rights Of Indigenous Peoples

Arctic Renewable Energy Initiatives

Walk To Tuk Fitness Challenge

Aklavik Market Rental Units

Returns to Oral Questions

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Climate Change Framework And Energy Strategy

New Generators For Yellowknife Power Plant

Inuvialuit Regional Housing Partnership

Giant Mine Oversight Board Research Funding

Proposed Yellowknife Airport Improvement Fees

United Nations Declaration On The Rights Of Aboriginal Peoples

Aklavik Market Rental Units

Aging-In-Place Housing Programs

Reinstatement Of Aurora College Program Funding

Programs Flowing From Housing Survey

Additional Funding For Homecare Services

Additional Funding For Homecare Services

Baseline For Homecare Workers

Reinstatement Of Aurora College Program Funding

Tabled Document 314-18(2): Northwest Territories Agricultural Strategy - The Business Of Food: A Food Production Plan 2017-2022

Tabled Document 317-18(2): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2017-2018

Tabled Document 318-18(2): Follow-Up Letter For Oral Question 577-18(2): Prescription Drug Monitoring Program.

Tabled Document 319-18(2): Text Of Letter To Prime Minister And Premiers From Smart Prosperity Canada

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Concurrence Of Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates, 2017-2018

Recorded Vote

Report of Committee of the Whole

Orders of the Day

Members Present

Hon. Glen Abernethy , Mr. Beaulieu , Mr. Blake , Hon. Caroline Cochrane , Ms. Green , Hon. Jackson Lafferty , Hon. Bob McLeod , Hon. Robert McLeod , Mr. McNeely , Hon. Alfred Moses , Mr. Nadli , Mr. Nakimayak , Mr. O'Reilly , Hon. Wally Schumann , Hon. Louis Sebert , Mr. Simpson , Mr. Testart , Mr. Thompson , Mr. Vanthuyne

The House met at 10:00 a.m.

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Prayer

Prayer

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Good morning, colleagues. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Minister responsible for Northwest Territories Power Corporation .

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Minister’s Statement 155-18(2): Correction For New Generators For Yellowknife Power Plant

Ministers’ Statements

Louis Sebert

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, this morning CBC published an

article quoting from oral questions yesterday. The

article repeats a misstatement that I made during my reply to oral question 670-18(2). I would like to take an opportunity to correct the record. Quoting from unedited Hansard, I said:

“I understand that there was a careful evaluation of the bid made by the Power Corporation. The bid from Virdi was the lowest rated, and among the factors looked at was price.”

What I should have said was that Virdi were the highest rated, lowest bidder. I apologize for any misunderstanding this has caused. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister’s Statement 155-18(2): Correction For New Generators For Yellowknife Power Plant

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Ministers' statements. Minister of Finance .

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Minister's Statement 156-18(2): Co-Operation On 2017-2018 Budget

Ministers’ Statements

Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, I rise today to provide an update on the progress to approve the 2017-2018 Main Estimates. Since the Budget Address on February 1, 2017, we have seen significant debate on specific elements of our annual budget and an extensive review of the main estimates in Committee of the Whole.

It is fair to say that all Members of the Legislative Assembly are passionate in their desire to address the challenges facing the Northwest Territories. Our reality is that we need to take action in a fiscally responsible manner and we are operating in an environment of limited revenue growth and an uncertain economic future.

Cabinet has listened carefully to Members and to the concerns of our constituents, as this budget has been debated. As a result, we are committing to the following adjustments to the 2017-2018 budget.

• We will increase the budget for homecare by $2,500,000.

• Funding of $500,000 will be provided for the Youth in Crisis program.

• The funding available through the Anti-Poverty Fund will be increased by $500,000.

• There will be an increase in support for freight costs associated with the fishing industry by $225,000.

• We will increase the funding available through the Mineral Incentive Program by $600,000.

• We will increase funding for the Community Access Road Program by $500,000.

Mr. Speaker, we have also heard the concerns about the reductions related to the Teacher Education Program and the social work program at Aurora College. While we believe these were appropriate decisions, given the cost of delivery and program outcomes, we also recognize that a more fundamental review of Aurora College is an important and necessary step to guide our actions. Minister Moses will be speaking about this in greater detail.

We will, however, make the commitment at this time to defer Aurora College reductions related to the Teacher Education Program and the social work program identified for 2017-18 pending completion of the review. There will be no additional intake for the social work program or the Teacher Education Program while the review is taking place.

I will follow through with these commitments in the Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2017-2018, which will be tabled in this House within the next few days.

Mr. Speaker, I want to thank Members for all their input and discussions around the 2017-2018 budget. Our debate in the House is only the most visible part of a lengthy process of engagement and discussion with Members to establish each year’s budget. Throughout the process, beginning with three weeks of business plan reviews last fall and review of the draft main estimates in standing committees, Members have provided feedback and suggestions that have led to the final budget we hope to pass shortly.

Based on what we heard from standing committee in discussions on the business plan, Cabinet agreed to make $15.4 million in adjustments before the budget was even tabled. Changes included eliminating some of the proposed expenditure reductions and identifying investments in priority areas like fully-funded junior kindergarten, 911 service, more money for small community employment programs and homelessness.

We have added to those early adjustments with the additional changes announced today, Mr. Speaker. We are confident that the final package of investments and ongoing spending we have settled on through our discussions is in the best interests of NWT residents, and look forward to receiving the support of MLAs.

In the sessional statement, we heard that staying true to the spirit and intent of consensus is a challenge that all Members of the Legislative Assembly are responsible for, Mr. Speaker. Meeting that challenge does not always come easily, particularly when we are asked to give and take on issues that we care about personally. We have faced that challenge during this session, and I am convinced that we have found a path forward based on the commitment of all Members on both sides of the House to doing what is best for the people of the Northwest Territories. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 156-18(2): Co-Operation On 2017-2018 Budget

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Ministers' statements. Minister of Justice

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Minister's Statement 157-18(2): Progress On Access To Justice Legal Aid Commission Expands Outreach Services

Ministers’ Statements

Louis Sebert

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as a government we have committed in our mandate to improve access to justice for the residents of the NWT. Today, I am pleased to announce an initiative that will assist residents involved in civil or family justice matters.

Members are aware of the Legal Aid Commission’s initiative to provide free legal advice through its Outreach lawyer. This service has proven to be very successful. It has been piloted for the last several years and has provided on-the-ground services in 19 communities. Residents accessing the service do not have to make an application and there is no means test. Anyone who would benefit from speaking with a lawyer on issues such as housing, landlord and tenant disputes, disability or employment issues, child protection, or elder’s wills is eligible.

With this success, it has become very clear that there is a greater need for this service than could be addressed in the 15 hours per week available under the pilot project.

Today, the Legal Aid Commission is launching a full-time Outreach Legal Aid Clinic. Staff at this new clinic will continue to offer legal advice, but will also provide duty counsel service in family law matters, and coordinate public legal information on behalf of the Legal Aid Commission. Again, these new services are available without the requirement to make a formal application and are at no cost to those using the service. This expansion was made possible by a careful restructuring of resources and an enhancement of the federal funding provided for the Aboriginal Court Work Program.

Throughout Canada and here in the Northwest Territories, courts have been seeing an increasing number of people who are "self-representing," or appearing without legal representation in the civil and family courts. There is a growing understanding that self-represented litigants face barriers, and many do not receive equitable access to justice. People coming before the courts are often experiencing their first interaction with the justice system, and it is not surprising that they experience difficulties stemming from a lack of understanding of potential remedies or court processes.

By providing expanded hours, separate office space and a dedicated court worker and outreach lawyer, the Legal Aid Commission is helping clients to access

summary legal advice and referrals more quickly from the Outreach Legal Aid Clinic. With the introduction of family law duty counsel, residents who attend court for family law matters will receive advice when they need it the most.

Much like the duty counsel provided to those criminally charged, this additional service will allow the Outreach lawyer to attend as duty counsel for appearances on family matters in the Territorial and Supreme Courts. We expect that the number of court appearances required to complete a case will be reduced as a result of these changes. In addition, staff will be utilized more efficiently, and technology will be better leveraged under this new model. Finally, better legal education and information for residents will lead to better outcomes for all involved.

While the office will be physically located in the Yellowknife Centre East building, the Outreach program will continue its commitment to all regions of the Northwest Territories. Over the next few months a

schedule of regional clinics will be developed in partnership with the communities and the court workers of the Legal Aid Commission.

Mr. Speaker, when a pilot project is a resounding success, it only makes sense to incorporate it into best practices. This initiative not only continues to deliver legal outreach services to our residents, but it also represents a significant step in meeting our commitment to improve access to justice. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Member for Kam Lake .

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Compromise On 2017-2018 Budget

Members' Statements

Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I would like to rise to speak to the Finance Minister 's recent statement on cooperation in the 2017-18 budget. It is no secret that we have had a very spirited debate in this House over this very important issue of our fiscal and strategic priorities moving forward into the 2017-18 year.

I am very pleased today to share in the announcement that we have achieved a compromise on the budget and that Regular Members, working together, have found a way to express their concerns both publicly and privately through the established practice of consensus government to make a better budget. That is exactly what we have seen, Mr. Speaker. I am very pleased to say that I am now able to support this budget and will do so.

I am very pleased to see the additional spending on both our social needs and on our economy. The additional Mineral Incentive Program, community access program, these will create jobs. These will create economic opportunities for our residents. Additional social spending with allow us to offset increased spending in later years.

You have to start with a strong foundation, Mr. Speaker. Our economy needs that boost, our people need that boost, and I am glad that the government has heard our message and has clearly signaled that they are willing to work with us in the spirit of consensus government. I know not everything that we worked for and our joint recommendations were accepted, but I think that, ultimately, we have a better budget and, ultimately, we have found a way to end this impasse and come together on behalf of our people for the benefit of all of the Northwest Territories.

I will be continuing to support this budget and continuing in my role to hold Cabinet accountability and make the best possible decisions for all the people we serve. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Compromise On 2017-2018 Budget

Members' Statements

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member for Sahtu .

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Deline Men’s Hockey Tournament

Members' Statements

Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Deline is the birthplace of hockey. I would like to recognize the community of Deline for their first Deline Men's Hockey Tournament this weekend. Deline is also known for birthplace of hockey and proud to announce that we have Bryan Trottier, who played 1,279 games in the NHL and is a member of seven Stanley Cup teams as well as a player and a coach and was also elected to the National Hockey League Hall of Fame. He played for the New York Islanders and the Pittsburgh Penguins.

Tyler Kennedy played 527 games in the NHL with Pittsburgh, New York Islanders, San Jose, and New Jersey. He was a member of the Pittsburgh Penguins' Stanley Cup team in 2009. Aaron Asham, Shaun Van Allen, Ric Nattress, Dan Frawley, Larry Melnyk, John Chabot, and Tom R. Williams will be goalie for the game.

Good luck, participants. This event is open and the invitation is extended to everybody in the House. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker, and I hope they enjoy a festive weekend. Thank you.

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Deline Men’s Hockey Tournament

Members' Statements

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Welcome to our Assembly. Members' statements. Member for Nahendeh .

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Acho Dene School Trip To Spain

Members' Statements

Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. About two years ago a new teacher arrived in Fort Liard and noticed the youth lived, ate, and breathed soccer. As she got to know the students and the community, she realized one of the students had the opportunity to go to England for a soccer camp and a tour the previous summer. This seemed to be the talk of the community and the school.

Mr. Speaker, this led to the idea of a school trip outside of Canada. After checking with her fellow teachers, the DEA, the DDEC, community members, and the older students, it was decided that this would be a great idea. After a lot of discussion with the students, they decided that they would go to Spain, and more specifically Barcelona and Madrid. This is where some of the students' idols lived and played soccer.

This meant they had to raise over $50,000. They started fundraising in September 2015 until just recently. They were able to raise over $25,000 by doing numerous movie nights, bingos, concessions at community events, special dinners, a haunted house, and other fundraising ideas the community was able to support. On top of this, the Hamlet, Acho Dene Koe Band, MACA, Acho Dene School, Community Justice, and corporate groups chipped in over $30,000. This is truly a community effort.

Mr. Speaker, on March 22, 2017, the 12 original students who signed up for this adventure and two chaperones will be leaving Fort Liard to Madrid via Edmonton. They will return home on March 31 via Barcelona.

The group has selected tours around Madrid and Barcelona, which will include art galleries, churches, memorials, and other popular attractions of each city. They have added a tour of Real Madrid football stadium and Barcelona FC stadium.

Mr. Speaker, this trip would not be complete without going to a professional soccer game. They will be attending a Tier 2 game on March 26th.

Mr. Speaker, this is a great opportunity for students to see what the world has to offer them. They have worked hard to accomplish this trip and have been pushed and encouraged to make positive choices for their participation. Like all things, there have been bumps along the way, but this trip helped them make better choices when confronted by a negative environment. For the students, this is the first time that they are leaving the country at any time.

Mr. Speaker, these students have surpassed all expectations from the start of the project. They showed incredible dedication to all events related to this project. As the organizing teacher said, "These events have really given them purpose and they can say that they accomplished this amazing goal together." All I can say is job well done, and enjoy your trip. Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker.

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Acho Dene School Trip To Spain

Members' Statements

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member for Yellowknife North .

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New Generators For Yellowknife Power Plant

Members' Statements

Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yesterday we learned through a CBC news report that the NWT Power Corporation has contracted for four generators worth about two and a half million dollars with an American company. At the time, in mid-2015, Virdi Power of California indicated delivery in six months. According to the Minister, the company received a $1 million deposit from the NWT Power Corporation.

It is now 18 months later, Mr. Speaker, and only some of the components have been delivered. The Power Corporation can't provide details on which components have been received.

There have been 25 visits to the company by a consultant checking in on behalf of the Power Corporation, including one less than two weeks ago. The report indicates that some of the units are still in the stages of being painted and sheet metal siding installed, but in the areas of major component assembly -- installation of conduit, lights, and receptacles; installing major components; and load testing -- there is no progress.

Virdi Power indicated that a delay was caused by a record storm that flooded the shop. Mr. Speaker, that storm was two weeks ago today. These generators are over a year behind schedule.

Mr. Speaker, as an MLA who has been concerned with the ever-rising increases for power, this situation makes me uneasy in a number of ways.

Why did we go to a company in California when two other bidders on this project, reputable companies in Canada, also submitted bids? When a much smaller, lesser-known company bids significantly, didn't that raise some red flags for the Power Corporation?

These generators were purchased in order to replace aging generators already at the Jackfish Power Plant. The new generators are a year past the delivery date, and the Minister acknowledged that the Power Corporation has had additional expenses for rental generators. One can only wonder if there have been yet more costs to the NWT taxpayer in repairs, upkeep, and maintenance. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement at this time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Unanimous consent granted

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New Generators For Yellowknife Power Plant

Members' Statements

Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you, colleagues. Mr. Speaker, if I ordered a piece of equipment for my business and it was promised in six months but had not shown up for a year and a half later, you can bet that I would be all over that supplier, I would have gotten my money back, and I would never have ordered from that supplier again.

The Power Corporation is working with the company and says it has negotiated compensation that is fair. Mr. Speaker, one thing is for sure. This circumstance is not inspiring confidence in the ratepayers of the North. Mr. Speaker, I will have questions at the appropriate time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker

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New Generators For Yellowknife Power Plant

Members' Statements

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member for Hay River North .

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March Events In Hay River

Members' Statements

R.J. Simpson

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, change is in the air. The light is coming back, the days are getting longer, and things are heating up in the Town of Hay River. March is a busy month back home, so I would like to take a minute to feature a few upcoming events.

First, the K'atlodeeche First Nation is hosting the annual K'amba Carnival this weekend on the Hay River Reserve. Festivities kicked off last night with the crowning of this year's K'amba Queen, Michelle Lafferty. Anyone nurturing a hidden talent and a bit of a competitive streak will find something to try with snowmobile and dogsled races, hand games, talent shows, and more all unfolding this weekend.

Next weekend, the polar pond hockey tournament returns for its eighth season.

Who needs an indoor rink, Mr. Speaker? The river in front of the fisherman's wharf will host the biggest hockey tournament in Hay River this year. The organizers have lowered the sign-up age to give as many people as possible a chance to play. Last time I checked, there were 14 teams registered, including seven women's teams and six from out of town. Organizers hope for 40 teams in total. Best of luck to all of the players, and my thanks to the organizers. I look forward to seeing the teams compete and welcoming everyone from out of town.

Finally, Mr. Speaker, a party that is always a good time, the Chamber of Commerce Gala. It will be held this March 31st. In past years, the gala has featured a life-sized Hay River-opoly board game, an Elvis impersonator, and of course there are always fantastic meals and great company.

How could the chamber top it this year? Well, Mr. Speaker, they are hosting "NWT's Got Talent." The chamber is encouraging any and all comers to sign up for the talent show and a chance to win a cash prize.

The gala will also see the presentation of three annual awards including Citizen of the Year, Business of the Year, and the Customer Service Award of Excellence.

So, Mr. Speaker, if you are looking for something to do this month, jump in your truck and head down to Hay River. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member for Frame Lake .

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Giant Mine Oversight Board Research Funding

Members' Statements

Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Merci, Monsieur le President. On February 6th, I made a Member's statement about the Giant Mine Oversight Board and its office opening here in Yellowknife. I described the two main functions of the board, sound technical oversight of the Giant Mine Remediation Project and a research program.

This project was sent to an environmental assessment based on public concerns. One of the main issues was the absence of any commitment or funding for ongoing research and development to find a better solution than simply trying to freeze 137,000 tons of toxic arsenic trioxide underground forever. The Mackenzie Valley Environmental Impact Review Board recognized this public concern and recommended measures to require ongoing research and development into emerging technologies for a permanent solution at Giant Mine. Those measures were accepted by federal and territorial Ministers and are now legally binding.

The details of the active research program were left to the negotiation of the legally binding environmental agreement.

I am proud to say that I was involved in those negotiations that created the Giant Mine Oversight Board, with its role in coordinating a research program into a permanent solution. The funding for the research program comes from the federal government, and work has started to identify opportunities and priorities for the research. A very important part of the negotiations and the ultimate agreement was the need for funding for the research. Every effort will be made to leverage and partner, but there must be money to invest.

Everyone agreed that unused funds from the oversight function would be rolled into the research program and that any unused funds would be carried over to build a critical nest egg for the research program. Without knowing what the research might be, but certainly understanding how expensive it will likely be, all the parties, including the federal government agreed the funds should be allowed to accumulate over time to support this work. This is money that will be managed and spent in the NWT to the benefit of all Yellowknifers now and into the future.

The board had a surplus of $65,000 in 2015-16, largely the result of a late start in getting set up partway through that year. It looks like the board may have a surplus of about $100,000 to $200,000 this year. These funds should be rolled into the research program, but there seems to be a roadblock with Indigenous and Northern Affairs Canada. The rollover is not happening. This a very serious breach of the spirit, intent, and letter of the Giant Mine Environmental Agreement.

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted

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Giant Mine Oversight Board Research Funding

Members' Statements

Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker, and thank you to my colleagues. I wouldn't raise this issue in the House if it were about a few thousand dollars, but this goes to the very heart of why Yellowknifers lost confidence in how government was attempting to remediate the Giant Mine. I trust that our government is working diligently behind the scenes to ensure that the federal government lives up to the promises it made to invest in a permanent solution for Giant Mine. I will have questions later today for the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources . Masi, Mr. Speaker.

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Giant Mine Oversight Board Research Funding

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member for Deh Cho .

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United Nations Declaration On The Rights Of Indigenous Peoples

Members' Statements

Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, UNDRIP, was adopted by the UN General Assembly in September 2007 by a majority of 144 nations voting in favour. There were 11 abstentions and four votes against this historic declaration, and I am sorry to say that Canada, along with the United States, New Zealand, and Australia, was one of the "no" votes.

The declaration sets out the individual and collective rights of Indigenous peoples, as well as our rights to culture, identity, language, employment, health, education, and other issues. It recognizes that, as Indigenous peoples, we have been deprived of our means of subsistence and development and that we are entitled to just and fair redress.

It also emphasizes the rights of Indigenous peoples to maintain and strengthen our own institutions, cultures, and traditions, and to pursue development that is in keeping with our own needs and aspirations. It prohibits discrimination against Indigenous peoples and promotes our full and effective participation in all matters that concern us. It also promotes our right to remain distinct and to pursue our own visions of economic and social development.

Mr. Speaker, why would Canada, a leading first-world country with a significant Aboriginal population, refuse to endorse the UN declaration? The Canadian government said that, while it supported the "spirit" of the declaration, it contained elements that were "fundamentally incompatible with Canada's constitutional framework, which includes the Charter of Rights and Freedoms and

Section 35 of the Constitution Act 1982,which enshrines Aboriginal and treaty rights."

Mr. Speaker, Canada's rejection of the UN declaration was seen by its Aboriginal peoples as evidence of this country's continued failure to meaningfully recognize the rights, culture, needs, and aspirations of its Indigenous peoples. This perception was captured by Canada Research Chair and faculty member at the University of Saskatchewan Research Chair Ken Coates, who argued that "UNDRIP resonates powerfully with Indigenous peoples, while national governments have not yet fully understood its full impact."

Perhaps Canada is slowly beginning to realize that impact. In November 2010, Canada officially endorsed the declaration but without changing its position that it was "aspirational." In 2016, Canada officially adopted and promised to implement the declaration fully. Speaking at the UN Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues, Indigenous and Northern Affairs Minister Carolyn Bennett announced, "We are now a full supporter of the declaration."

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement. Mahsi.

---Unanimous consent granted

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaking at the UN Permanent forum on Indigenous Issues, Indigenous and Northern Affairs Minister Carolyn Bennett announced, "We are now a full supporter of the declaration, without qualification. We intend nothing less than to adopt and implement the declaration in accordance with the Canadian Constitution." Bennett described the Declaration as "breathing life into

Section 35 of the Canadian Constitution and recognizing it as a full box of rights for Indigenous Peoples in Canada."

Mr. Speaker, I am encouraged by the words of Minister Bennett. I believe that this development may positively impact on the process of settling outstanding rights for the Deh Cho and Akaitcho. I will speak further on how this might happen. Thank you Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Members' statements. Member for Nunakput .

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Arctic Renewable Energy Initiatives

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Herbert Nakimayak

Nunakput

Quyanainni, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it is with great pleasure that I share with you some of the excellent work being led by our colleagues at the Arctic Council and Permanent Participant Gwich'in Council International on the issue of renewable energy, an area that this government is active in through such initiatives at the Solar Energy Strategy and the Alternative Energy Technology Program.

Later this month, the Arctic Renewable Energy Networks Academy -- abbreviated to ARENA -- will kick off here in Yellowknife. It is a nine-month program for 20 individuals from the Circumpolar Arctic to participate in classroom and laboratory learning and visits to communities operating on renewable energy resources to gain first-hand insights. ARENA also features a webinar series which introduces remote energy network/microgrid concepts.

I am pleased to see that the Government of the Northwest Territories is partnering on this initiative alongside several federal departments and agencies. The GNWT investment in ARENA is important for three reasons, Mr. Speaker:

• it gives the NWT residents access to top-notch professional development programs;

• it advances our interests in switching our communities from diesel-power generation to renewable sources; and

• it shows our commitment towards supporting the Indigenous peoples from our region in the leadership role that they are taking on circumpolar policy challenges.

Mr. Speaker, I hope that this support continues as Gwich'in Council International is proposing for the first time to lead a project at the Arctic Council. The Arctic Sustainable Energy Futures Toolkit will be a print and web-based guide for communities to follow when developing and exercising community energy planning processes.

The toolkit will draw upon best practices to help communities create and implement their energy visions, as well as increase energy literacy and capacity for community members and help build bridges between communities and agency officials and subject matter experts.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to extend my support for this project and hope that the GNWT will continue to be an active and supportive partner on renewable energy projects at the Arctic Council across the Northwest Territories. Quyanainni Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member for Yellowknife Centre .

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Walk To Tuk Fitness Challenge

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to congratulate everyone who just finished the Walk to Tuk this winter, along with the organizers of the event, the NWT Recreation and Parks Association.

The Walk to Tuk, as you probably know, is the largest, longest, and most effective physical activity event undertaken each year in the NWT. Teams of course do not literally walk to Tuktoyaktuk, but rather walk to work, walk the dog, jog, ski, snowshoe, or walk on a track. Teams left Fort Providence on January 3rd, setting out on the 1,658 kilometre journey to the Arctic Coast and together 3,600 people walked almost 200,000 kilometres.

---Applause

I know, amazing. As I mentioned, the Walk to Tuk is managed by the NWT Recreation and Parks and organizers reported that there were 257 teams this year from 29 communities. The total participation rate, at just over 3,600 people, is up by a thousand participants from last year and represents almost 10 per cent of the NWT population. On average, each Walk to Tuk participant put in 320 minutes of weekly exercise, more than doubling the Canadian Physical Activity Guidelines.

Members of the Legislative Assembly took part again this year. Our team was 14 Members strong, and included both Regular Members and Cabinet Ministers. We started slowly but built up quickly, together walking almost 25,000 minutes and we got to Tuktoyaktuk on time. Thanks to the Honourable Member for Nahendeh who once again outwalked us all, accounting for 15 per cent of our total.

The Walk to Tuk is a brilliant way to encourage all of us to stay active in these cold months. To equal such an outstanding rate of participation in other parts of Canada, Ontario would need to get 1.4 million of its citizens signed up, or 900,000 people in Quebec.

So let us celebrate. Participants in Yellowknife are invited to pick up their T-shirts and enjoy some refreshments today from 11:00 a.m. until 2:00 p.m. at the Greenstone Building. Lastly, I want to congratulate all the teams who participated in the program this year, and encourage them to keep on walking. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member for Mackenzie Delta .

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Aklavik Market Rental Units

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the extended deadline for the NWT Housing Corporation's housing survey passed last week. I hope that every Northerner who wanted to was able to access that survey. It was definitely a hot topic at my constituency meetings.

In fact, my constituents have a lot to say about housing, and no wonder! In each of the three communities of the Mackenzie Delta riding, roughly one in four houses is in core need.

Think about the toll that takes on daily life in a small community.

We cannot lose sight of that, Mr. Speaker. When we talk about surveys, policies, or capital planning, we cannot lose sight of just how hard it really is when you do not have a home of your own.

The Social Development Committee made housing a top priority for just that reason. Housing is the issue that changes everything else.

In my riding, families are staying with families, Mr. Speaker. Houses are overcrowded. Young people are putting off starting families of their own, or else they and their families have to board with friends or relatives. Frustration sets in when you have to live with other people in such close quarters, but residents have to choose between a three-year waiting list or sky-high market rents. Let us be realistic: that is no choice at all.

Homeownership or market rentals are just not feasible for many in our small communities. It just does not make sense.

Take the community of Aklavik. The Housing Corporation recently brought in modular buildings to create four new units. You will remember that Regular Members had a lot of questions on that project at the time. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement. Thank you.

---Unanimous consent granted

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Aklavik Market Rental Units

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you, colleagues. Despite the fanfare, two of those units are now sitting empty. They are empty because rents of $1,400 or more per month is just not possible for the people that actually need housing.

Mr. Speaker, I think it is clear that setting those units aside as market rentals is not working out. My constituents know how many Northerners are stuck on the housing waiting list and they have a solution: make those units part of the public housing program. Get more people into homes now. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I will have questions later today.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Minister of Health and Social Services .

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Returns to Oral Questions

Returns to Oral Questions

Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, I have a return to an oral question asked by Ms. Green on February 15, 2017, regarding the Prescription Drug Monitoring Program. More specifically, Mr. Speaker, about the government's role in pharmacy errors.

The department does not have a direct oversight role when a pharmacist makes a dispensing error in a retail pharmacy. The pharmacist's professional ethics and standards of practice will guide how the event is handled.

However, the department does have a role in ensuring that a complaints officer is appointed under the Pharmacy Act

to ensure that any person may file a complaint if they feel that a pharmacist's conduct is unprofessional or that they show a lack of the necessary knowledge, skills, and abilities to practice as a pharmacist.

I would also like to note that if a dispensing error happens within the Health and Social Services system and cause harm to a patient, the authorities would investigate the incident to determine exactly what happened in order to prevent a similar incident from occurring in the future. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Sahtu .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. There are two members of the NHL Alumni team who are with us here today, and proceeding on to Deline, birthplace of hockey, to play a couple of games this weekend. I would like to welcome Bryan Trottier and Tyler Kennedy to our beautiful Northwest Territories. Also, recognize Mr. Tom R. Williams accompanying the Group of Seven, I believe it is, president of the Inuvik Housing Corporation. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to use this opportunity to recognize two pages from Inuvik. We have Gabrielle Nogasak and Shenise Vittrekwa. I want to thank them and all of the pages. We have had some long nights here and they have been pretty patient with us. I am not sure if they want to come back, but we appreciate the job they have done. I also want to recognize an old hockey teammate of mine from the 1970s, and no, it is not the NHLers. Tom Williams and I played minor hockey together way back in Inuvik a long time ago. I would like to recognize Tom and his wife, Pam Williams, who is originally from Aklavik. They are celebrating their anniversary today. Welcome.

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Jackson Lafferty

Happy anniversary to both of you, and many more years to come. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Nunakput .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Herbert Nakimayak

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I, too, also want to wish Mr. and Mrs. Williams a happy anniversary, and also former NHLers, Hall of Famers, and Stanley Cup champions Bryan Trottier and Tyler Kennedy. I know Mr. Trottier has done a lot of work up in Nunakput region and, every time we get NHLers or individuals who can influence people through television and in person, it means a lot for our territory. Welcome and thank you for all of your dedication and hard work. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Range Lake .

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I, too, would like to recognize Tom and Pam Williams, who are constituents of Range Lake now. Happy anniversary to both of you. On behalf of MACA, Municipal and Community Affairs, our sports and recreation division, I also want to recognize Bryan Trottier and Tyler Kennedy, who are true role models to the youth who are coming up in society. It is really important that we have people like that, and it is an honour to have them here.

I want to put a shout out to Tom Williams, who is our deputy minister of the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation, who will be going with them to play for goalie. Just to let you both know, we have told him to take it easy on you guys so you come back again. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. If we are missing anyone in the gallery, welcome to our proceedings. It is always great to have an audience. Masi. Item 6, acknowledgements. Item 7, oral questions. Member for Nunakput .

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Question 677-18(2): Climate Change Framework And Energy Strategy

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Herbert Nakimayak

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Earlier on, I spoke about the Arctic Renewable Energy Networks Academy. My questions are for the Minister of ITI . Mr. Speaker, my first question to the Minister is: what progress is the department making on climate change, framework, and the energy strategy? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 677-18(2): Climate Change Framework And Energy Strategy

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment .

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Question 677-18(2): Climate Change Framework And Energy Strategy

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

--- through our public engagement sessions that we have talked about quite a bit this week in the House. To date, we have held public engagement sessions in Norman Wells, Fort Smith, Yellowknife, and Fort Simpson. Next week, we are going to be in my home community of Hay River and we are going to be doing a workshop with the community of Behchoko moving forward. We will be collecting this information and we will be using this to develop our energy strategy moving forward. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 677-18(2): Climate Change Framework And Energy Strategy

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Herbert Nakimayak

Nunakput

That answered my second question. Mr. Speaker, my final question for the Minister is: how is the Government of the Northwest Territories supporting the Arctic Renewable Energy Networks Academy’s ARENA initiative?

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Question 677-18(2): Climate Change Framework And Energy Strategy

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

I am happy to say in the House today that we will join this week-long event, and we will be sending Government of the Northwest Territories representatives to attend ARENA. I will welcome delegates on March 24 to Yellowknife. Our Public Works and Services Energy Division will make a presentation later that day to provide an update on our efforts to develop our 10-year energy strategy moving forward as well. To add to that, the Power Corporation has arranged for tours for the hybrid solar and diesel battery storage project in Cobalt Lake. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 677-18(2): Climate Change Framework And Energy Strategy

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Yellowknife North .

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Question 678-18(2): New Generators For Yellowknife Power Plant

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yesterday I provided a line of questions to the Minster responsible for the Power Corporation. I would like to continue along that line of questioning today. I would like to start by asking the Minister: at the time that it became clear that the company Verdi was getting behind

schedule on delivering these generators, what steps did the Power Corporation take to hold the company accountable, if certain benchmarks and certain milestones weren’t being met? Is there some form of penalty that was built into the contract? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 678-18(2): New Generators For Yellowknife Power Plant

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister responsible for the Northwest Territories Power Corporation .

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Question 678-18(2): New Generators For Yellowknife Power Plant

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Louis Sebert

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When it became evident that this contract was going to be delayed, the Power Corporation looked at its various options. As I mentioned yesterday, to compensate for the lack of delivery, it was agreed with the vendor that they would cover any additional costs, including the cost of modular rental units that were brought into Jackfish in the winter of 2017 to ensure reliability. Because this bid was the lowest bidder, it was thought best to stick with this bid as that would be the best, in the long term, for the ratepayers. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 678-18(2): New Generators For Yellowknife Power Plant

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

I appreciate that the Minister has indicated that the company would essentially have to cover any costs incurred. It has been 24 hours since I asked this question yesterday, something along the lines of: what costs have been incurred since the delay of receiving these generators? The Minister indicated yesterday that there have been some rental costs for some backup generators of some sort. I am expecting that there are others costs. If this company is expected to pay those costs, has the Minister yet determined what those incurred costs are?

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Louis Sebert

Thebacha

In the brief time since yesterday afternoon, no, I have not ascertained what those costs will be, but I am looking into it.

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Question 678-18(2): New Generators For Yellowknife Power Plant

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

I would like to ask the Minister: what kind of “validating” does the Power Corporation do? What kind of assessment does it take when it is trying to evaluate suppliers or manufacturers that they use? I ask this question because, clearly, there were two other bidders in this proposal that are on this project that are well-known, larger, reputable Canadian companies. Their bids were very close to each other. I would like to ask the Minister: what kind of criteria do they use to determine what manufacturers they are going to choose to use?

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Question 678-18(2): New Generators For Yellowknife Power Plant

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Louis Sebert

Thebacha

As mentioned previously, Mr. Speaker, the vendor chosen, Virdi, had the lowest bid. It was significantly lower than the next bidder, and it was the best overall score in the evaluations. There was a careful evaluation made of the three admittedly competent bidders. We went with the best bidders. We went with the best bid.

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Question 678-18(2): New Generators For Yellowknife Power Plant

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Yellowknife North .

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Question 678-18(2): New Generators For Yellowknife Power Plant

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Sometimes “significantly lower” will raise a red flag. It has in the past, and that should have been a red flag, quite frankly. Something, Mr. Speaker, that I would like to ask the Minister is: given that there is an obvious delay in getting these generators, given that there appear to be some incurred costs and given that, since there has been significant time that has passed and the Canadian dollar has devalued in that time. Does the Minister believe that it is possible that the all-in cost, once we get these in-house and turnkey, that they will actually end up costing than the next bidder's cost would have been? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 678-18(2): New Generators For Yellowknife Power Plant

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Louis Sebert

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, obviously, that is to be determined, but I am not expecting that that would be the case. As mentioned earlier, Virdi, the bidder, the successful bidder, will compensate for the additional costs that I mentioned earlier, so we are still expecting this contract to be well under the other bids.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 679-18(2): Inuvialuit Regional Housing Partnership

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, a week ago, the Minister responsible for the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation signed an agreement with the Inuvialuit Regional Corporation leadership about social housing. I am not questioning the need for the housing dollars, but I have some questions around the details of this arrangement.

I am aware that about a third of the new money will replace units destroyed by fire. Will the rest of the money add to the housing stock in the ISR so that there are more units in total than there are now? Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The partnership that we have developed with the Inuvialuit Regional Corporation is a partnership in that the Housing Corporation provides the land and will take over the ownership of the units for rental purposes, but the IRC is responsible for building the units and determining where they want to go. The current funding, the $5 million, will be used to replace a six-plex in Inuvik and a four-plex in Tuktoyaktuk that were burned from fire. The $10 million that is coming next, we have not negotiated on.

Again, it is not the Housing Corporation's prerogative to be able to tell the Inuvialuit Regional Corporation what to do. It will be up to them to decide. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you to the Minister. The Minister and the Housing Corporation have been very diligent about not allowing for an increase in the number of units within the Housing Corporation stock because of the increased operations and maintenance costs that come with extra units, so will the Minister accept extra units if that is what the IRC decides to do with its money?

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

The Member is correct in that, the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation, we do get funded for 2,400 public housing units. The CMHC funding is going to dissolve in 2038. We are trying to develop a plan to deal with the lack of funding that we will have for operating and maintenance for 2,400 units. So, at this point, we are not looking at increasing our public housing stock, but we are looking at and we're hoping that, with the program renewal, we will be able transfer some of the current units into more home ownership. That way we can actually increase our public housing availability at the same time. No, this will not be all on the shoulders of the Inuvialuit Regional Corporation.

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

This money provides for IRC beneficiaries, but I am wondering how the Housing Corporation is planning to meet the needs of the other residents of the Beaufort Delta who are waiting for housing, that is, other beneficiaries and other non-Indigenous people?

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

The deal with the Inuvialuit Regional Corporation to provide them $15 million was not a Government of the Northwest Territories decision. It was a federal decision. We had no input into that. The Government of the Northwest Territories was not consulted in that process, so we can't determine what the federal government did with that or where they are going to move in the future.

However, what I can say is that, for the Government of the Northwest Territories and the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation, we take care of the needs of all residents within the Northwest Territories. So just because the Inuvialuit Regional Corporation struck a special deal with the federal government, that does not mean that we neglected all of the other communities. We are still providing housing support in all communities, to meet all people's needs.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I thank the Minister for that response. My final question is about quality control. Since one entity is doing the building and another is providing for the O and M, what kind of quality control will be exercised over this project and by whom? Thank you.

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Again, I want to stress that the agreement for the $15 million is not in consultation with the Government of the Northwest Territories. It was done directly with the Inuvialuit Regional Corporation. They could determine what they wanted to do with the whole funding. We have developed a partnership. Within that partnership, the Inuvialuit Regional Corporation has agreed to make sure that the buildings are done to code. We have agreement that we will be confirming that, as well. The Inuvialuit Regional Corporation does have the capacity.

This corporation does have economic development within their organization, and they have been doing buildings. This is not their first project, so I am assuming that their quality of work will remain as it always has been.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 680-18(2): Giant Mine Oversight Board Research Funding

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Merci, Monsieur le President. My questions are for the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources . I mentioned in my statement earlier today that the federal government is not living up to the spirit, intent, and letter of the Giant Mine Environmental Agreement by allowing the carryover of unspent funds to build up a research program into a permanent solution to the arsenic. Is the Minister aware of this issue, and what is he doing to address this problem? Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am aware of this, and I don't think there is any ill intent on behalf of Canada, I believe, once they realize that they would be contravening a

section of the Treasury Board rules to rollover the money. My understanding is they are taking steps to find a solution for this. As we know more, I will share that with the Member. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Yes, I am aware that there is provision in the agreement for the federal government to go to the Treasury Board to resolve this on a permanent basis, but there is a way for them to address the issue right now, and that is just simply to increase the contribution agreement for the next year by the amount that was unspent in the previous year. That would allow for, essentially, a carryover. I guess I would like to know from the Minister what he believes are the next steps that he and his staff will take to get implementation of this key feature of the agreement back on track?

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

The federal government are the funding contributors to this, and, as such, they make the decision. They try to live within the rules. I take the Member's point, and, at the earliest opportunity, I will convey our concerns to the federal government and see if there are ways, solutions, that they can find to allow the carryover of this money.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

I appreciate the commitment of the Minister. Our government did sign this agreement, as well, so we do have some obligations, and this is certainly in the best interest of Yellowknifers now and into the future. There is some urgency to getting this issue sorted out. April 1st is coming up quickly, so I am just wondering how confident the Minister is that we can get the federal government to live up to this agreement and to ensure that all the appropriate funds are available to invest in the Northwest Territories.

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

I am confident that I can reach out to the federal government. At the end of the day, the decision is theirs. I could try to see if I can secure a timeline for them, but I can't speak on their behalf. I can only commit to what we can do as a government, is to reach out to them. I commit to the Member that I will do that. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I do appreciate the commitment from the Minister on that. We know April 1st is coming up quickly. There is a provision in the agreement for dispute resolution. I am wondering, would the Minister be prepared to recommend that the Giant Mine Oversight Board invoke the dispute resolution process under the environmental agreement if we can't resolve this quickly? Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Robert C. McLeod

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I will follow up on that and see what tools we have at our disposal to help find a solution for the funding. I will commit to following up on that.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 681-18(2): Proposed Yellowknife Airport Improvement Fees

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yesterday, my colleague the honourable Member for Kam Lake was talking about the user fees and landing fees being proposed by infrastructure, the new potential infrastructure department. They talk about between $8 and $10 million going to be potential new revenue. In regards to the $10 million or this money being proposed to be collected by the new airport fees, how much is this going to be coming from the GNWT's medical travel and GNWT businesses? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I can get back to the Member with the exact details on it, but I can tell him right off the top between medical travel and business and relocation tickets that were out of Yellowknife, it comes to 3.7 per cent of total travel out of Yellowknife. It is roughly over 10,000 flights. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

I thank the Minister for his commitment to get back. We are hearing different numbers out there, so it would be really nice to see what the percentage of this is. Mr. Speaker, with a percentage of this money going to the airlines, which we have heard in the news, how long did the department know about this, and why wasn't this part of the information package out to the public as they were promoting this new initiative?

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Wally Schumann

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We have known about this all along, that there was a fee charged by the airlines to implement this and a cost associated with them. It is customary right across Canada, as the

article said in the newspaper yesterday. I don't believe we have presented it to standing committee or to the public in our presentations, just believing we were focusing on the costs of the airport improvement fee, which was important to get that out there so people know the cost of the southbound and northbound ticket. It was probably our oversight that this part wasn't included in it. That is my explanation on it.

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

I thank the Minister for that answer. I understand what they were trying to do. I just didn't know this fee existed, and I don't know a lot of people probably did know that. Mr. Speaker, as the honourable Member for Kam Lake spoke about the airline collecting these fees and charging administration fees, has the department agreed to a percentage that the government is going to accept the airlines to do it, or is this something that the airlines actually impose on the government for collecting these fees?

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

As we move forward, I believe this is something, like I said in the House yesterday, it is something we are keeping a close eye on across the country. If this bill passes in the House, we will definitely get back to committee on what is going on and keep everyone informed on where this process is going.

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the Minister for his answer. I guess I am just a little concerned that we are not being proactive in looking at this at the very beginning. I understand that the department is trying to get these fees implemented, but there are these hidden costs that people are not aware of and that should be looked at. Is the department willing to look at capping this administration fee at 4 per cent, which is a standard administration fee? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As we were moving forward with this and learning more about the whole process, the airlines have argued that there is a financial burden put upon them by collecting this fee. It has been negotiated across the country to remit the airline improvement fee to them and give them a commission on this moving forward. We are well aware of the situation. It is a balancing act, just like anything, if we are going to impose this on the airlines, that they are reimbursed something that is sustainable for them as well moving forward. I wouldn't say it is a hidden fee.

It is part of the $20 or the $10 moving south, but that is a fee that is included within that amount, so it is not an additional fee that goes to the customer. We will keep committee informed on that as this moves forward and where we end up on a commission.

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Question 682-18(2): United Nations Declaration On The Rights Of Aboriginal Peoples

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, earlier I spoke on the United Nations Declarations on the Rights of Indigenous People. My questions are to the Minister of Aboriginal Affairs . In the past the GNWT has played the key role in terms of the national and international levels. I wanted to ask the Minister what ways, in his view, is the GNWT going to continue working to uphold the United Nations Declarations on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples? Mahsi.

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Question 682-18(2): United Nations Declaration On The Rights Of Aboriginal Peoples

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

As we have indicated, we have a ministerial special representative that is working on behalf of the federal government and our government to have in-depth review of the process that we have been using to negotiate the land claims. Some of these land claims, negotiations, have been long-standing, as long as 25 years. Our expectation is that the ministerial special representatives will identify or have been tasked with looking at what the major roadblocks and issues are that are preventing us from moving forward and to make some recommendations that will allow us to move forward.

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Thank you to the Minister for answering the few questions that I had. It is true that the ministerial special reporter has met with all parties and will be more likely tabling the report to the parties, including the GNWT and the federal government. Could the Minister explain just the key steps of the go-forward work plan that he anticipates will follow once the reports have been received by the parties?

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

The way I see it is both the federal government and ourselves will receive the report from the ministerial special representatives. We expect to have it, we said, by the end of February. I expect that within the next couple of weeks we will have it. I will be meeting with Minister Bennett to determine a path forward, and once we determine the path forward we will take action. My expectation is that at some point we will work with our joint Cabinet and special committee. We will also work with the Aboriginal governments that are involved in the negotiations.

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My final question is that it seems that, you know, there is a waiting game at this point in terms of when the reports will be received and then there is a contemplation of the next steps, and it seems very clear that, of course, within the framework of the federal government, including the GNWT or the Northwest Territories, it is almost that we have to wait for the lead of the federal government. One of the points that have been made by the parties is that there has to be a new mandate from the federal government including the GNWT. Is that the case, Mr. Speaker?

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Question 682-18(2): United Nations Declaration On The Rights Of Aboriginal Peoples

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is our expectation that the Ministerial Special Representatives Report will look at all of the challenges and issues that have prevented us from getting an agreement by now. So if that is part of the problem, I expect the ministerial special representatives will identify it and make some recommendations. Certainly before we went with the ministerial representative, we certainly felt or indicated that perhaps part of the problem was the mandates that we were working with.

So I am looking forward to receiving the report of ministerial special representatives, and I fully expect that they will make some reference to the mandate issues as well.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 683-18(2): Aklavik Market Rental Units

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, a follow-up to my Member's statement. I have a few questions for the Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation . I would like to ask the Minister: will the Housing Corporation reclassify the modular units in Aklavik to add to the community's public housing stock and get more people into homes of their own? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 683-18(2): Aklavik Market Rental Units

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 683-18(2): Aklavik Market Rental Units

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As part of the program renewal that we are actually right in the process of doing now, all available housing units within every community are going to be looked at, and if they are not being utilized for the purpose that they were put there, they will be repurposed into a new use. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 683-18(2): Aklavik Market Rental Units

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

That is good to hear. The housing survey closed on February 27th. What are the Minister's next steps to take action on what they have learned?

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Question 683-18(2): Aklavik Market Rental Units

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

I am really excited that the housing survey is now finished, in all honesty. It means that we can get down to work. The department right at this moment, the corporation is compiling all the results and putting them into categories. For example, some are around home ownership, some are around homelessness, et cetera. They are also categorizing it by community. After that process, we will be going through them one by one and looking at, like I say, every program and every policy that we provide and revitalizing them to meet the needs of the community, to meet the needs of residents within the Northwest Territories.

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Question 683-18(2): Aklavik Market Rental Units

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Can the Minister provide a status update on the project that is introducing a singles four-plex into Aklavik?

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

I am sorry. At this moment, I do not know the answer of what the status is on the four-plex. I will have to get back to the MLA on that.

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, is it safe to say that the project is on schedule? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 683-18(2): Aklavik Market Rental Units

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As stated before, I do not know exactly what the status is today, so I will have to get back to the MLA on what the status is today.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 684-18(2): Aging-In-Place Housing Programs

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Marci Cho, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have a couple of questions today for the Minister of NWT Housing Corporation pertaining to the aging-in-place initiative that is in our mandate. I would like to ask the Minister if there has been any form of evaluation to determine what the cost savings of aging-in-place would be for the GNWT. Thank you.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 684-18(2): Aging-In-Place Housing Programs

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

Mr. Speaker, no, to my knowledge we have not done an evaluation of exactly what the cost savings are to do aging-in-place. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 684-18(2): Aging-In-Place Housing Programs

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Can the Minister tell me if there have been any discussions with the possible impacts on the need for a long-term care as a result of the upcoming work that would be anticipated by the Housing Corporation on the aging-in-place project?

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Question 684-18(2): Aging-In-Place Housing Programs

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

The Northwest Territories Housing Corporation is working in close partnership with the Department of Health and Social Services. The goal is to help people to be able to age in place within their communities as long as possible; however, we do recognize that at some point some people do need additional support that they may have to leave their communities and at that point they may have to go into long-term care.

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Is the Minister of the Housing Corporation able to advise the House if there have been any standards developed for the renovation of the units where we hope the elders would age in place?

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

The Northwest Territories Housing Corporation abides by all the standards, building codes, et cetera within Canada. In fact, our standards are actually higher than some provinces and territories. The reality is, though, that each individual is different and so what determines what one person who is aging in their own home needs will not be the same right across the board. So we look at each case on an individual basis to determine what supports they need in there.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the Minister if there has been any sort of evaluation on where the first projects will be rolling out on the aging-in-place. Thank you.

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Question 684-18(2): Aging-In-Place Housing Programs

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Northwest Territories Housing Corporation has been working for many years, actually providing supports to seniors, to people so that they can stay in their communities. So the additional $500,000 that we put into the budget for this coming year is not a new program. It is new monies that we allocated to it, but we have been working for many years to provide supports to seniors so that they can age in place, putting mobility supports in. We have not done a formal evaluation, but there are a lot of evaluations out there that show that supports for seniors, rails, ramps, et cetera, are good, are really actually quite beneficial to keeping seniors in their homes.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 685-18(2): Reinstatement Of Aurora College Program Funding

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in the Finance Minister 's address, he committed to restoring funding to Aurora College to deliver the social work and teacher education programs but made note that there will be no additional intake for these two programs, so I would like to ask the Minister of Education if he can explain how this process is going to work and what the students who were previously impacted by this change can expect now that this financial commitment has come forward from this government? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 685-18(2): Reinstatement Of Aurora College Program Funding

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As previously noted throughout the course of the dialogue in session, we are going to continue to support the students who are currently in the program, support them through to completion for the years moving ahead. As I mentioned, as the Member mentioned and the Finance Minister , there will be no intakes for the upcoming year until these programs are reviewed and the college is reviewed, as well. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

What of the access program students who were planning on taking this program? Will they still be able to fulfill those goals? We will start with that.

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Question 685-18(2): Reinstatement Of Aurora College Program Funding

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

We have two students in the access program for TEP and five who were going into the social work program. The staff at Aurora College has been working with these students to help them look for programs in other institutions, so they have all had a plan in place for their career goals as well as their academic path moving forward.

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

I spoke to some of these students, potentially before that happened, and they were quite upset about not being able to do this education here in the North, or at least start this education here in the North. Is there any possibility that exceptions can be made for these students to continue on the educational path that they had originally planned to do before this announcement was made?

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

As we have had this dialogue, Members said that nothing should be done until the strategic view has been in place as well as looking at a foundational review, so we have put everything on hold. We are not going to continue with the intakes. With the decisions that were made, we believe that it was appropriate, working with Aurora College with the reductions in the TEP program and social work program, so we are going to wait until the review is complete before we continue to make any further decisions.

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate that the Minister thought that this was a good