Debates of Dec. 4th, 1998

This is page numbers 509 - 545 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 6th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was conflict .

Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

Meet The North - Build A Vision Conference

Minimum Down Payment Assistance Pilot Program

School Of Community Government

Justice System Workers

Coaching Development Strategy

Support From Fort Resolution

Nats'enelu Craft And Clothing Society

Fort Smith Cadet Drill Team

Homes Constructed On Wooden Pilings

Proposal For A Yellowknife Mining Museum

Aircraft Accident In Iqaluit

Need For Speech Therapy Services

Clarification Of Personal Health Situation

Additional Resources For Beaufort-delta Region

Passing Of Elizabeth Owlijoot

Hall Beach Graveyard

Heroic Act Of Joshua Qillaq

Violence Against Women

A Change In Leadership

Hunters And Trappers Disaster Compensation Program

Cambridge Bay Weekend Activities

Acknowledgement Of Supporters

School Of Community Government

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Additional Resources For Inuvik Regional Office

Relocation Of Hall Beach Grave Sites

New Down Payment Pilot Program

St. John's Ambulance Services

Hay Job Evaluation System

Update On Land And Resources Dispute

Aboriginal Language Community Contributions

Nunavut And Manitoba Land Dispute

New Down Payment Pilot Program

Addressing Inuvik Foundation Problems

Collective Bargaining And Pay Equity

Status Of Grise Fiord Office Building

New Down Payment Pilot Program

Contracting With Former Employees

Status Of Iqaluit Health Facility

Reducing The Student/teacher Ratio

Item 12: Reports Of Committees On The Review Of Bills

Tabled Document 47-13(6): Photos Of The Government Office In Grise Fiord

Bill 28:

An Act To Amend The Social Assistance Act

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Item 22: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Honourable Jim Antoine , Honourable Goo Arlooktoo , Mr. Barnabas , Honourable Charles Dent , Mr. Enuaraq , Mr. Erasmus , Mr. Evaloarjuk , Honourable Sam Gargan, Mrs. Groenewegen , Mr. Henry , Honourable Stephen Kakfwi , Mr. Krutko , Mr. Miltenberger , Mr. Morin , Honourable Kelvin Ng , Mr. Ningark , Mr. O'Brien , Mr. Ootes , Mr. Picco , Mr. Rabesca , Mr. Roland , Mr. Steen , Honourable Manitok Thompson , Honourable John Todd .

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Oh, God, may your spirit and guidance be in us as we work for the benefit of all our people, for peace and justice in our land and for the constant recognition of the dignity and aspirations of those whom we serve. Amen.

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Ningark . Good Morning. Orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers' statements.

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Minister's Statement 83-13(6): Meet The North - Build A Vision Conference

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, it is my pleasure to report on the Meet the North - Build a Vision Conference, which was held in Edmonton earlier this week. This conference was more than 150 Northwest Territories delegates actively participating in inviting business and investment in the Northwest Territories. Many MLAs attended, in addition to the Acting Premier Mr. Arlooktoo , Mr. Antoine , Mr. Dent , Mr. Todd , Mr. Ng and myself.

The conference brought together representatives of business, government, communities and Aboriginal organizations in order to: - help northerners build mutually beneficial relationships and networks; - educate and inform participants on key northern issues; - identify northern opportunities and explore solutions to northern challenges; and - - showcase and promote the north.

The conference featured workshops focusing on five major themes. The economic challenge; the tourism opportunity; the challenge of affordable access; our future workforce; and the implications of our changing political landscape. Workshops were lead by leaders from northern business, government and aboriginal organizations.

My Cabinet colleagues and I challenged conference participants to develop concrete action plans. In total, 33 recommendations were presented at the conclusion of the conference, along with commitments for follow-up and action.

Highlights include the following recommendations from the economic challenge workshop: - Alberta should consider the creation of a special investment fund for northern ventures; - Southern investors should be encouraged to explore partnerships with aboriginal corporations; and, - Issues surrounding devolution of natural resources should be further investigated.

In the area of tourism opportunities: - That a common strategy be developed to market the north as a tourism destination; and - That a "brand" should be developed to capture the human and cultural dimensions of the north.

In the area of affordable access: - Strategies should be developed for reducing air travel costs to and from the north; and - New partnerships should be explored for road and infrastructure construction.

And, finally in the area of our future workforce: - That local industry should become more involved in training; and - That corporations working in the north should be encouraged to develop workforce systems which accommodate cultural needs and diversity.

Perhaps most importantly, the theme of the changing political landscape provided an opportunity to deliver some clear and straightforward messages to the southern business community. Mr. Arlooktoo 's speech on this topic was well received.

Mr. Speaker, the north is open for business. The new north wants to develop its oil and gas, mining and forestry resources but only when development maximizes benefits to northerners by: - providing sustainable jobs for northerners; - providing business opportunities for northerners; - leads to training opportunities for northerners; - offers partnership opportunities for northerners; and, - does not compromise our northern environment.

This is the same message that we as a government have been sending to industry and developers for some time now.

The recommendations developed during this conference represent the collective efforts of northerners and southerners working together to identify actions to be taken to advance northern economic development on mutually beneficial terms. Many of the recommendations touch upon issues where our government has already initiated action. For example, in the affordable access area, the Department of Transportation is already developing a strategy which will address road access to the mineral rich deposits in the Slave Province.

In the area of tourism opportunity, I am pleased to advise that our officials and representatives of the NWT tourism industry are already working with their counterparts in both Nunavut and Yukon to develop a common strategy.

Mr. Speaker, it is the intention of conference organizers, including the government of the NWT, to further review these recommendations and to investigate and implement appropriate action in each area. Thank you.

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Thank you. Ministers' statements. Mr. Arlooktoo .

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Minister's Statement 84-13(6): Minimum Down Payment Assistance Pilot Program

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Goo Arlooktoo

Baffin South

Thank you, Mr, Speaker. I would like to take this opportunity to inform this House about a new home ownership pilot program that the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation launched December 1st. The corporation believes that this new program will assist this government with one of its most important objectives; that is, stimulating and developing the economy. Mr. Speaker, economic growth in the Northwest Territories requires one thing above all others. It requires people and people need somewhere to live. Many people are moving between communities for work and wish to put down roots.

Every day, workers from across Canada fly into the NWT to work. At the end of their shift they fly out again to their homes in the south.

To qualify for the program a family must not already own a home in the community where they are buying a home, must have financing for the remainder of the purchase price of the home and the purchase must be finalized by March 31, 1999. This program applies in all communities of the Northwest Territories. MDAPP is a pilot program until the end of this fiscal year. After that, it will be assessed to determine if it should be renewed.

Mr. Speaker, the NWT has over 250 private homes that sit empty. Let us give people the chance to buy these homes. With so many homes sitting empty, our construction industry is idle in many places. The construction of new homes which creates employment for northern workers and causes northern businesses to grow cannot occur until these empty homes have been filled.

Mr. Speaker, we all know that homeowners tend to have a greater interest in the prosperity of their community. The government believes MDAPP will create more homeowners and strengthen all our communities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you. Ministers' statements. Ms. Thompson .

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Minister's Statement 85-13(6): School Of Community Government

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Manitok Thompson

Aivilik

Mr. Speaker, it gives me great pleasure to inform Members about the recent development of the School of Community Government. This is a collaborative effort between MACA, Aurora College, a number of GNWT departments and non-government organizations.

Mr. Speaker, this government understands the many challenges communities are faced with. We have recognized the need to improve health and wellness of individuals, families and communities; reduce dependency on government; and strengthen and develop community governments. In this way, communities can become more sustainable and self-reliant.

The School of Community Government has been designed with these goals in mind. More specifically, the purpose of the School of Community Government is to improve the capacity of community governments and non-government organizations. In the past, training programs have been available from many different sources. There have been growing concerns that the lack of coordination affects the suitability and availability of training. Mr. Speaker, the School of Community Government will offer a coordinated approach to training opportunities.

MACA is working closely with Aurora College to develop a school which will provide an expanded range of training programs. The School of Community Government will deliver training in broad areas including: - political development and governance; - community management and administration; - works and works management; - public safety; - community development; and, - recreation and lands

Mr. Speaker, to make sure the training needs of community governments can be met, MACA is investing with other training providers such as Aurora College, GNWT departments, Nunavut Arctic College, professional associations and private industries. We expect that a shared approach to this program will allow us to pool our financial, administrative and instructional resources. This will provide increased training opportunities for communities.

Mr. Speaker, the School of Community Government represents an exciting opportunity for communities and the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs. Communities will be able to access quality training, tailored to their needs while developing and expanding their capacity and responsibility. I am proud that we are able to contribute to the development of communities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 86-13(6): Justice System Workers

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Goo Arlooktoo

Baffin South

Mr. Speaker, working in the justice system is sometimes a thankless task. There are sensitive issues to be balanced such as: victim's and offender's rights, the public right to know versus privacy concerns and finally the perception that the justice system simply does not fit with the people it is supposed to serve. Every day, justice system workers deal with these pressures. I would like to recognize these people by telling you briefly about three experiences I have had in the past couple of months which convince me that justice policies and initiatives, while always in need of constant re-evaluation, are going in the right direction.

Late this summer I dropped by the Iqaluit Courthouse. It happened to be a Friday morning when Justice of the Peace Court was in regular session. I was pleased to notice that courtworker, Enook Petalaussie, was acting as a defence representative. Mr. Petalaussie was born and raised in Cape Dorset. He told me that he regularly conducts first appearances, sentencing hearings, bail hearings and trials in Justice of the Peace Court and also in Territorial Court. I was impressed with his abilities.

I saw lawyer Robert Gorin outside the Courthouse. He was taking a short break before returning to do some more pre-court interviewing. Mr. Gorin is on the legal aid panel of lawyers and I am told that he makes himself available as a resource to courtworkers when he is in Iqaluit.

I was glad to meet Mr. Neil Sharkey, who is the head lawyer at Maliganik Tukisiiniakvik, the legal aid office in Iqaluit. We had a good talk about the lawyer/courtworker mentoring system. This system will be of great assistance to the new court system in Nunavut on April 1st.

I mentioned in the last sitting of this Assembly that the Department of Justice is expanding the bush camp alternative for offenders. I recently visited Charlie Burke's and Gerry Morin's camps. After seeing their camps and hearing their comments, I am convinced more than ever that we are headed in the right direction in this area. These camps are doing effective work. It is my hope that, with help from my department, they will become even more effective in the future.

Finally, Mr. Speaker, I was very pleased to meet all too briefly with justice staff at the Yellowknife Courthouse building. I was impressed with their positive attitude they bring to difficult jobs serving a public that naturally has high expectations.

Mr. Speaker, these are just three examples of how, every day, justice system workers are serving the public. They are deserving of my gratitude and I am pleased to be associated with them. I now ask all Members to join me in thanking these hard-working people who are putting our policies and initiatives into action. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause

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Thank you. Ministers' statements. Ms. Thompson .

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Minister's Statement 87-13(6): Coaching Development Strategy

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Manitok Thompson

Aivilik

Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to announce that the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs and the Sport North Federation hosted a Coaches and Volunteers Symposium in Yellowknife last weekend.

This symposium was developed for coaches and sports volunteers from communities across the Territories. Approximately 125 Northerners from all regions attended the symposium. Discussions focused on three areas: community coaching, high performance coaching and volunteerism. It is only through the active participation of many coaches and volunteers that more people are trained in this important area. I am happy to inform you that the initial feedback from the participants to the symposium has been very positive.

Mr. Speaker, sport and recreation is more that a pastime. It is a positive and essential contributor to community wellness. For this reason, I am pleased to announce that regional coaching seminars have also been organized for Rankin Inlet on December 4th to 6th; Cambridge Bay on January 15th to 17th; Iqaluit on January 29th to 31st; and Inuvik on February 20th to 22nd. These regional seminars will focus on the delivery of National Coaching Certification Programs for sports chosen by the regional recreation organizations. The training will help to increase the number of certified coaches available to work with northern athletes.

In addition, Mr. Speaker, many activities are being planned for the winter. These include: regional workshops in sport first aid, the Speak Out Program on Harassment and Sport Development Camps in Fort Resolution, Fort Smith, Hay River, Fort Simpson, Fort Liard, Wha Ti, Rae-Edzo and Fort Providence. This training reflects the department's continued commitment to develop sport volunteers at the community level.

Mr. Speaker, our young people are our future. Their positive development relies on experiencing a good quality of life in their own communities. Sport and recreation contributes in a significant way to the quality of life in the north and coaches are the key to making this work. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Morin .

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Member's Statement 208-13(6): Support From Fort Resolution

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As you all know one of the communities I represent in the riding of Tu Nedhe is the community of Fort Resolution. The community of Fort Resolution is the oldest established community in the Northwest Territories. It is over 200 years old. It has a rich culture and it has many very strong family ties. People in Fort Resolution live in a small community on the shore of Great Slave Lake. They have learned from their fathers and forefathers that whenever anybody is in need in the community that they come forward to help.

We have seen that many times in our community when we have lost a loved one. We have seen that many times in our community when we have had marriages. The whole community shows up. The community is there to support each other and, once again, they have come through.

I am proud today to say I am the MLA for Tu Nedhe. I do represent the community of Fort Resolution. I have had many elders and other people get up at 5:30 this morning to no knowledge of my own, drive to Hay River, get a on plane to fly here and be here today to hear what I have to say and in support of me.

I would like to thank Dotti Mandeville, Dave McNabb, Ewan Hunter, Jayne Miersch, Wilfred Giroux, Eva Fabien, Rosa and Norma Lafferty, Sharon Lafferty, Henry Mandeville, Arthur Miersch, Toni Lafferty, Jonas Beaulieu, Jennifer Beaulieu, Lloyd Cardinal, Trudy King, Violet Beaulieu and Cara Carriere for making the long journey from Fort Resolution. I appreciate it and with that, mahsi cho. Thank you.

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Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Antoine .

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Member's Statement 209-13(6): Nats'enelu Craft And Clothing Society

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I would like to recognize an initiative in the Fort Simpson constituency of Nahendeh. Nats'enelu, Mr. Speaker.

Nats'enelu is a Dene word that you and I understand, and Steve. It is a word with the concept of sewing and meeting together to sew. It is founded by a non-profit organization, the Nats'enelu Society in the early 70s. It is dedicated to the preservation and promotion of Dene-inspired crafts, clothing and lifestyle items. It was incorporated in October of 1997 with the intent to train and implement the considerable skills that numerous local Dene craft people have.

Mr. Speaker, a Montreal-based designer, D'Arcy Moses, has been providing classroom and practical training to local people in Fort Simpson. There is a wide variety of quality products now available. Research and development over the past year has yielded a number of new ideas which are now in the process of being marketed. This ribbon shirt that I am wearing, Mr. Speaker, is an example of one of the new products that is available in Fort Simpson from the Nats'enelu Society.

Concentration now is based in three areas and it is Deh Cho coats, Dene dolls, Dene lifestyle items such as bush articles used by local hunters. There are seven full-time people in the house-production workers, three part-time marketing and support staff and approximately 25 to 30 homeworkers, where they do piecework in their homes. The three Deh Cho communities should provide bead work, tanned hides, crafts and dolls to Nats'enelu on a piecework basis. All staff are very dedicated to this unique enterprise, Mr. Speaker. They recognize the opportunity that Nats'enelu presents for the promotion of traditional Dene skills and economic rewards of owning a business.

The year 1999 will be Nats'enelu's most progressive year yet, Mr. Speaker. Plans for expanding the production facilities, training new staff and aggressive national marketing program will make Nats'enelu poised to enter a new era in creating a positive awareness of Canada's Dene culture. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Member's Statement 210-13(6): Fort Smith Cadet Drill Team

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Last week the 2748 Royal Canadian Army Cadet Corp of Fort Smith Drill Team made up of Sergeant Bouvier, Private Blythe, Private Grenier, Cadet Beaulieu, Cadet Michaels and Cadet Hogart won a very tough drill competition in their zone against teams from Hay River, Rae-Edzo and the Yellowknife Army and Air Cadets. They will now go on to a regional competition consisting of the best of six zones, stretching from the Yukon to the Baffin Island, which will be held in Cambridge Bay on December 11th to 13th.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to wish all the competitors attending this very tough competition the best of luck but, of course, I hope that the crack drill team of Fort Smith will bring home the trophy. Thank you.

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Member's Statement 211-13(6): Homes Constructed On Wooden Pilings

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Floyd Roland

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this fall in Inuvik, a concern was raised as a result of a home in Inuvik collapsing as a result of the wooden pilings failing underneath it. Mr. Speaker, a large majority of homes in Inuvik, and other buildings, were built with wooden pilings supporting their structure. I am aware that the Inuvik Housing Authority, alone, has over 100 units that are supported by wooden pilings. I am also aware that Public Works and Services has been looking at the impact that the department faces as a result of wooden pilings that could potentially fail in the near future.

As well, I am aware that work has been started on inspections of wooden pilings that support many of the public buildings that are built in Inuvik.

The government is looking into the impacts it faces, but here is where my concern lies, Mr. Speaker. Many private homes are also affected by the deterioration of the pilings. Many homes were purchased by employees and residents in Inuvik from this government, as well as the federal government. Mr. Speaker, many of the families that purchased homes access support from the NWT Housing Corporation through their DAP and EDAP programs because many of them could not afford the down payment necessary to qualify for bank loans on their own.

Now that they are in their homes, they are able to maintain these homes on their own. Here, Mr. Speaker, comes a twist, the cost of repairing the pilings is costly and unaffordable to many residents in their own homes. To add to that, Mr. Speaker, insurance will not cover the foundation that these homes are built on.

The potential for disaster is extremely serious, Mr. Speaker. I have raised these concerns with the Minister of the Housing Corporation and I look forward to positive results in trying to deal with this potential situation that is in Inuvik. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Member's Statement 212-13(6): Proposal For A Yellowknife Mining Museum

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Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Two weeks ago, about 20 people attended a meeting of an organization known as Spirit YK to review the question of, does Yellowknife need or want a mining museum? The answer among those who attended was a yes. Such a museum is long overdue, especially if one considers the role mining and exploration have played in the history of the city and of the Northwest Territories. This city really does need a place where visitors, residents and school children can learn about the varied and colourful history of mining in the north.

Yellowknife was born from a mining boom and mining continues to be a major part of our existence. This is true not only for Yellowknife, but for the whole of the Northwest Territories.

In a statement I made back in February, 1998, I suggested the Department of Education, Culture and Employment initiate discussions with Spirit of YK members. The idea of a mining museum is good. Everyone, tourists and residents alike, are curious to know and learn more about mining. The popularity of activities during mining week certainly attest to this. Now that diamond mining has started in the Northwest Territories, we have yet another exciting opportunity to show and tell others about our mining activity and history. There are several ideas of where to locate a mining museum. The old mine rescue building is one location. Another idea is to develop a museum out at Giant Mine.

Everyone agrees the museum needs to be interactive. That is what people want. They want to experience, first-hand, underground tunnels and the smell and feel of fresh cut rock. People also agree that, if funding permits, the museum should focus not just on Yellowknife's mining history, but also cover mining ventures in other parts of the Northwest Territories.

Mining is such a huge part of the north's history. It is a shame we do not yet have the interactive type of museum Spirit of YK talks about. It is high time we got started on a mining museum. Already we have 20 interested people willing to spearhead the task and I would urge our government to show its support. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Member's Statement 213-13(6): Aircraft Accident In Iqaluit

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Edward Picco

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker and good morning. Mr. Speaker, yesterday afternoon the Hawker-Siddley 748 airplane, departing from Iqaluit to Igloolik, was unable, as I understand, to sustain power and ran off the Iqaluit runway. Some minor injuries were reported but the four crew and three passengers are all safe. Mr. Speaker, emergency services in Iqaluit reacted very quickly to the scene of the incident and by all reports, the professionalism shown was second to none.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank EMO from Iqaluit, the Iqaluit RCMP, the hospital staff, fire and ambulance workers for a job well done. Mr. Speaker, we are now awaiting for investigators to arrive in Iqaluit from the proper investigating authorities and organizations in the south to find out the cause of the crash. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Member's Statement 214-13(6): Need For Speech Therapy Services

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James Rabesca

North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Some time ago my colleague, Mrs. Groenewegen , and myself referenced the need for speech therapists within the remote communities of our territories. Recently in Rae Lakes they opened a daycare centre to help single working mothers with a facility to take their children to during working hours. Now that this facility is opened and people are using it, the community has discovered that many of these young children need speech therapy.

This, of course, is easier to say than actually trying to solve these children's problems. In order for a child to get therapy they must travel to Yellowknife. Once in Yellowknife they must attend therapy for a week at a time. Of course, this is an ongoing thing so every couple of months a parent must drop whatever work they are doing to bring their children into Yellowknife to spend a week in therapy; then go back to the community. To most people this is a very expensive solution to their children's problem and most cannot support this option.

This government must find a better solution. We need therapists out in the smaller communities to address this now, not later in life. It is very important for a child's development that they grow with the ability to talk properly.

I feel Rae Lakes is taking a step to assist in this problem by providing a daycare centre which will help these children to, hopefully, develop better communications skills by being in a group setting that will allow for them to learn form one another. However, we must go further. This is a huge problem across the North. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Member's Statement 215-13(6): Clarification Of Personal Health Situation

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Vince Steen

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to take this opportunity to clarify to my constituents back home exactly what happened as far as my angina attack which I experienced on Thursday, November 19, 1998. For the information of the Members and my constituents it was called an angina attack. It is a very mild form of a heart attack but it is not considered a heart attack. However, I was kept in Stanton Hospital here in Yellowknife for one week while I was waiting for an opportunity to have an angiogram performed in Edmonton which would confirm whether or not I would need an angioplasty.

This was performed, Mr. Speaker, on Monday. I was medevaced to Edmonton on Monday and admitted to the Royal Alexander Hospital. At 11:30 a.m., they performed a test. The test confirmed that I needed an angioplasty. The angioplasty was actually performed immediately and I was released at 2:30 in the afternoon from the hospital. I was placed in the Sturgeon Hospital in St. Albert for observation and recuperation. The next day which was Tuesday, I was discharged from the Sturgeon Hospital and returned here to Yellowknife.

I showed up here to session, Mr. Speaker, Wednesday. Unfortunately, I ended up back in the Stanton Regional Hospital at 5:00 that night as I was experiencing a mild case of pneumonia as a result of the angina attack. I was again discharged yesterday. I would like to take this opportunity again, Mr. Speaker, to thank all the staff in the Stanton Regional Hospital, the nurses and the doctors. I do not want to mention their names because I do not want to leave anybody out, but I would like to thank them all for their help, assistance and efforts to ensure that I am back in the House here.

I can ensure my constituents that I think I would be able to stay in the House for the next week or so. No problem. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Member's Statement 216-13(6): Additional Resources For Beaufort-delta Region

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My statement today is regarding the Inuvik regional powers and initiatives that the Beaufort-Delta are taking on through self-government negotiations and more regional autonomy by taking over programs and services in Inuvik. I think one thing that is needed is resources. This government has to put more human and financial resources into the Inuvik region to offset the implication of land claims being implemented and for negotiations of self-government agreements, transfer of human resources for the hospital, the Arctic College facilities, social services and also education.

Mr. Speaker, we talk about empowering our communities, empowering our regions, but in the last couple of years with the cuts and the downsizing of this government, we have also made a major impact on regional delivery of programs and services. I think that it is critical that this government seriously considers the implication that self-government agreements are going to have on this government to carry out programs and services on behalf of the residents of Inuvik and Beaufort-Delta region.

It is critical that this government also looks at that problem now and ensures that the resources and the people are in place to carry out those responsibilities that will come with implementing self-government agreements and also look at the Beaufort-Delta regional government that is presently being worked on by all of the leaders in the Beaufort-Delta, so that they can have a more productive and a more decision-making power base at the region instead of at the central level government.

We have to ensure that for the programs and services that are delivered through this House that there are resources at the regional and community levels to ensure that they are carried out properly. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Member's Statement 217-13(6): Passing Of Elizabeth Owlijoot

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Kevin O'Brien

Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to acknowledge the death of Mrs. Elizabeth Nutaraluk Owlijoot. Mrs. Owlijoot passed away last week at the elders' centre in Arviat at the age of 84 years. Elizabeth was a well respected elder, a talented carver and artist. Mr. Speaker, I would ask my honourable colleagues to join me in offering our sincere condolences to the family and friends back home in Arviat. Thank you.

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Member's Statement 218-13(6): Hall Beach Graveyard

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Mark Evaloarjuk

Amittuq

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today regarding an issue that is not new. In 1995 I was bringing up this issue, but up to today this issue that I raised in 1995 is still not being implemented through MACA. In 1968 the territorial government did not have much power, but DIAND in Ottawa was making all the decisions and ever since 1995 regarding Hall Beach residents, moving all the graveyards, and I have raised this issue, time and time again.

I still have not received anything from the federal government, even from the territorial government, and at the time the territorial government leader wrote a letter to the federal government regarding the graveyard. I still have not received anything regarding the relocation of the graveyards in Hall Beach. Perhaps this is the last time that I will be raising this issue so I would just like to remind the Minister to look into this issue further. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Translation ends)

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Member's Statement 219-13(6): Heroic Act Of Joshua Qillaq

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Tommy Enuaraq

Baffin Central

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning. I rise today to acknowledge the heroism of a youngster in my home community, a Mr. Joshua Qillaq, age 9.

On November 15, 1995 a youngster, Ms. Sally Arreak, age 10, was playing on the school playground. While using the slide, Sally accidentally snagged the drawstring on her hood on the slide. As a result, Sally began suffocating. No one noticed Sally struggling. A few minutes later, which probably seemed a lifetime to Sally, fortunately, an observant young man named Joshua Qillaq came to her rescue. Joshua quickly worked to free Sally. The event took several minutes to resolve. If Joshua did not come to Sally's rescue, Sally may not be alive today.

Mr. Speaker, in closing, I would like to commend Joshua for his heroic deed, and take this opportunity to informally recommend him for the Commissioner's Award for Joshua Qillaq. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Translation ends)

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Member's Statement 220-13(6): Violence Against Women

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to finish a statement that I started yesterday. Mr. Speaker, I wish to speak in regard to violence against women. I believe that our world, our societies and our communities would be a much better place the day when we start to treat women as equals, and when women can help us remove the systemic barriers that we all have in place that prevent them from doing that.

In government, in the workplace, in business and in our communities; there is a systemic way in which women are kept and prevented from feeling free, equal, respected and free from living with fear. I know even my daughters have been taught to be afraid of the dark, to walk on the roads alone in the dark, in taking taxis alone, teaching them to learn how to deal with sexist jokes, remarks, deal with the world and a society where there are still threats of violence made against women, the kind of verbal abuse that continues.

Mr. Speaker, I have a vested interest as I have said, because I do not want my daughters to live in that kind of world. I do not want any women to live in that kind of world. We have young people today that aspire to make a living or live freely without fear. It is our job to continue to try to do that. I know what my mother has lived with. I mentioned that yesterday. I know what my sisters have lived with, my relatives and women right across this country, in the north. It is a great cause to be in support of, to work for a day when all women will be treated equally and can live in a world without fear. Thank you.

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Member's Statement 221-13(6): A Change In Leadership

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Seamus Henry

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning. Mr. Speaker, on November 26, 1998, Mr. Morin resigned as Premier of the Northwest Territories. Mr. Arlooktoo as the Deputy Premier, assumed the role of Acting Premier. The Caucus of this government, Mr. Speaker, met and decided to hold a leadership committee on Thursday, December 10, 1998, to elect a new Premier for the Northwest Territories. I believe, Mr. Speaker, that the process for this election will be a somewhat shorter exercise than it has been the last time around.

Last time we elected a Premier, the public and the MLAs had an opportunity to hear about the vision of the candidates that wish to put their name forward for Premier. Mr. Speaker, the public and MLAs have had the opportunity for the past three years to know what the leadership vision is of potential candidates for Premier this time around. To date no MLAs have publicly declared their intention to run for the position as Premier of the Northwest Territories. I would like to call on any Member, Mr. Speaker, who wishes to put their name forward for Premier of the Northwest Territories to do so before next Monday.

By doing so, Mr. Speaker, the public and Members of this House will have the opportunity to receive feedback from other MLAs and from the public that we represent and we can be advised accordingly. Mr. Speaker, I would not issue it as a threat, but if no one has declared by Monday that they wish to seek the position of leadership, I may be forced to do so myself.

--Laughter

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Members' statements. Mr. Barnabas .

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Member's Statement 222-13(6): Hunters And Trappers Disaster Compensation Program

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Levi Barnabas

High Arctic

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I would like to address the availability of the Hunters and Trappers Disaster Compensation Program.

In late spring an unfortunate accident occurred in Grise Fiord. A number of hunters were in pursuit of a whale. Unfortunately, the ice beneath them broke away and they were forced to abandon their snowmobiles and other equipment. As a result they lost all of their equipment.

Mr. Speaker, hunting and trapping is very important to the economy of the north. It provides families with food and a source of income. When these hunters lost their equipment, they also lost part of their capability to support their families. Fortunately, there are government programs that help hunters and their families in these disasters. The program I am talking about is the Hunters and Trappers Disaster relief fund. Sometimes, Mr. Speaker, government is really forward-thinking.

Next week I will be addressing this issue further in a letter to the Minister. I hope this fund will be able to help out the families in Grise Fiord who lost their hunting equipment.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Member's Statement 223-13(6): Cambridge Bay Weekend Activities

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker I want to speak about some happenings that are taking place this weekend in Cambridge Bay through the sponsorship of First Air and the involvement of the Edmonton Oilers Alumni. Four ex-Edmonton Oilers, Mr. Brian Baltimore, Mr. Brian Benning, Mr. Alan Hamilton and Mr. Dave Lumley are currently in transit to Cambridge Bay. They are going to be participating in a weekend of events surrounding hockey. There is a feast and some entertainment planned for this evening to honour them coming to the community. Tomorrow morning and all afternoon there is a hockey clinic put on by these four individuals for all the minor hockey participants in Cambridge Bay.

I am happy to say that tomorrow evening there is a fundraising game with the ex-Oilers and some Members of this House that have taken up my offer of an invitation to attend and participate. We will be playing against the local oldtimers all-star team in the spirit of fun and fundraising. There is also a pancake breakfast planned for Sunday morning and I would like to say that there are some fundraising activities surrounding this whole visit as well in respect of supporting the library restoration fund and minor hockey.

There is going to be a raffle of two return airfare tickets that, again, have been sponsored by First Air; a couple of Oilers tickets and some accommodation in Edmonton to attend the game down there, which I know people are happy with and excited about. In closing, I am sure that all residents of Cambridge Bay will support the initiatives that are going on this weekend and I will be happy to report, Mr. Speaker, next week, on the performance of all Members while they were up in Cambridge Bay. Thank you.

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Members' statements. Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Member's Statement 224-13(6): Acknowledgement Of Supporters

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in recent days a lot of tension has been paid to the role that I have played in this conflict of interest inquiry and many accolades have been offered; but, Mr. Speaker, I think it would be wrong not to take this opportunity to thank the many people who have supported me in this endeavour because I have certainly not done it alone.

Mr. Speaker, to the literally hundreds of expressions of support through phone calls, letters, e-mails, cards, donations to my legal fund and personal contacts, I would like to say thank you to my constituents in Hay River who were understanding and supportive of the time and effort that I needed to devote to this; to my close supporters and advisors for their thoughtful guidance; to my colleagues in this legislature who offered support and encouragement. I do not need to name them because they know who they are and I am sure the public knows who they are, as well to my legal council, Mr.

Barry Chivers, for taking a chance on such an unusual client and such an unusual case; to my constituency assistant, Ginger Lester, for being right there; to my family, my sister Janet here in Yellowknife and my children Jordan, Jeffrey and Jillian who are my most proud and rewarding accomplishments; to my ever patient husband without whose support I would not have the courage to do what I do and last and certainly not least, Mr. Speaker, to the God whom I serve who defines the very context and purpose of my life, I am always thankful.

I would also like to just express a note with respect to the legal fund and the $35,000 or so that was raised depending on the decision of the House with respect to those costs and how things are dealt with, I will be seeking input from those contributors as to whether they would like to have their money returned to them or whether they would like it donated to a worthy cause perhaps such as something like the Stanton Foundation for a CAT Scan in Yellowknife or something of that nature. I will be in contact with those supporters on that matter. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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I would like to remind the Member from Hay River regarding the legal costs. This is a matter that is before the Assembly and the Management and Services Board and she is drawing a real fine line regarding the debate on the legal costs. Members' statements. Mr. Erasmus .

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Member's Statement 225-13(6): School Of Community Government

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Roy Erasmus

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to speak today concerning the School of Community Government which was recently announced. Mr. Speaker, we all know that the communities have taken on more and more responsibilities and have taken on more programs and services through various forms of negotiation and programs of this and other governments including community government, community empowerment, community justice, self-government and land claims discussions.

Because of that, MLAs have spoken in this House and community leaders have talked in various places and through various means saying that they need people trained in the communities. In fact, last spring this House passed a motion saying that MACA should take the lead role and develop a community development training set of programs including a one-year certificate and a two-year diploma program.

Mr. Speaker, at this time I would like to commend the department for reacting to our motion and also for reacting to the requests of the people. The Minister recently announced that they are creating a School of Community Government and the school would provide an expanded range of training programs in broad areas including political development and governance, community management and administration, works and works management, public safety, community development and recreation and lands and that they are investing with other providers such as the colleges, the professional associations, private industry and other GNWT departments.

Mr. Speaker, I would also like to indicate that Aurora College is doing a pilot program on community development at their Inuvik campus. I would hope that the plans for this school include a one-year certificate and a two-year diploma program as we had asked for because we need more than short-term courses. Once again, Mr. Speaker, I applaud the MACA department as well as their partners for taking this initiative. Thank you.

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Floyd Roland

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I have the privilege of recognizing my wife and my youngest addition to the family, Mitchell Josiah. They are on their way back home to be with the rest of the family. Thank you.

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Welcome to the Assembly. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Barnabas .

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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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Levi Barnabas

High Arctic

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am happy to recognize my wife, Susanna Barnabas, and my sister, Nuterajuk Attagutsiak, and also my relative, Hannah Kanatsiaq, who are here in this Legislative Assembly today. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Welcome to the Assembly. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Krutko .

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Question 249-13(6): Additional Resources For Inuvik Regional Office

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of FMBS in regard to the possibility of re-establishing some sort of position within the Inuvik regional office to assist with the work load that we are seeing. More things are being taken on by the regions through the self-government negotiation process. The Beaufort regional government has been structured to take on and transfer more authority from Yellowknife to the Inuvik region.

Can the Minister tell me if there are any possible resources available for the region to ensure that funds are available for more human resources at the Inuvik regional office to assist with this increase of work that is presently being taken on in the Inuvik region?

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I had better take that question as notice, Mr. Speaker, not because I do not want to answer it, but I do not have all the facts. If there is, in fact, as my honourable colleague says, an additional workload as we move forward on the issue of trying to seek an appropriate process of governance that has been under discussion for some time, we will take a hard look at that. I will take that question as notice and get back to my colleague early next week.

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Question 250-13(6): Relocation Of Hall Beach Grave Sites

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Mark Evaloarjuk

Amittuq

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, during my Member's statement, I referred to an old issue which should not just die without any result arising from the concern. My question will be directed to the current government leader, who was the Deputy Premier during the tenure of our prior Premier, and I am sure he is aware of issues ongoing within this government and the responses which I have not received regarding the relocation of the grave sites in Hall Beach.

I want to know how he can help me pursue this matter with the federal government if the need arises. What is the process that I need to follow? For example, if there is an alleged crime or matter that was carried out, which the people are not happy with eventually you have a means of taking it to the courts to have it resolved. Does the Deputy Premier have any answers to solving this issue? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Translation ends)

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Goo Arlooktoo

Baffin South

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the MLA for his question and for raising this issue because I am sure it is a concern to him and to his constituents from his community. I remember this issue when the Member raised it in the House. I have heard recently that the territorial government had reviewed what happened at that time and asked the federal government for a response to this concern. However, I do not have the response myself at the table at this time. I will pass it on to him so that the Member can pass it on to his constituents. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Translation ends)

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Question 251-13(6): New Down Payment Pilot Program

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Seamus Henry

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is to the Acting Premier, Mr. Arlooktoo , regarding his statement in the House today on the Minimum Down Payment Assistance Pilot Program. I would like to comment that I am very impressed with the program. I think it is an excellent initiative and extremely creative to attract or encourage, as the Acting Premier talked about, those people who are deriving an income from the Northwest Territories but not spending it as much here. My question to the Premier is, Mr. Speaker, how many dollars have been contributed to the program for this fiscal year, which I believe ends March 31, 1999? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Goo Arlooktoo

Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the Member for his positive comments. First, perhaps to clarify that

it is not only a program for workers who work in the north but do not live in the north, but very much aimed at workers. If I could use an example of a family that lives in Coppermine and working at BHP, but does not have the down payment in their savings right now, this will give them an opportunity to buy their home in Coppermine through this program. Mr. Speaker, the total amount of the program is expected to be about $2.9 million, some of which will be from existing funds; but the Financial Management Board will be putting forward a supplementary appropriation for consideration by this House for a total amount of $1.695 million. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Seamus Henry

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the Premier for that. The Premier used the example of someone living in Cambridge Bay, I believe, and certainly that would have the opportunity to expand the program. That individual is spending money in the territories now. My second question, Mr. Speaker, is there are a number of employees working and deriving their livelihood from the Northwest Territories, who as the Premier noted are leaving all the time. A number of these employees, probably the largest one comes to mind is BHP and Diavik.

I am wondering, has this department taken any steps to make sure that these employees know of the program and have available documentation to make applications for it? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Goo Arlooktoo

Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is the type of program that we had talked about for a number of years, but one of the triggers was the BHP mine and the concern as I recall, was raised by the former Premier of these fly-in and fly-out workers, and those workers that we wanted to have stay here in the north. They derive their income from the north and we wanted them to stay here and live here. So, the company that the Member mentioned is certainly a company that was thought of as a possible target and their employees.

The information package that I have provided to the House and to the Members is a similar information package that we are giving out to real estate agents, companies, housing authorities and the like. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Seamus Henry

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I believe a number of times when government has initiated programs that there has been criticism that the process of application is long and cumbersome. Could the Minister advise the House and the people of the territories that this will not be the case in this particular situation? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Goo Arlooktoo

Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That is correct. One of the criticisms of the Housing Corporation programs, the EDAP program and others is that the application process is quite cumbersome in some respect, necessarily so. For this program, it is much more simplified, perhaps mostly due to the part that it is more open and there are less restrictions, partly due to the fact that it is a smaller amount that we give out as a grant. The answer is, yes, it will be a lot simpler to apply and to qualify for this program. Thank you.

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Seamus Henry

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I assume that there would be an application form. In the event that the application form is correctly filled out and the required information is provided to the department officials, does the Minister have a time frame of when the monies could be made available to the applicants? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Goo Arlooktoo

Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The money is available now from the pot of money that is being used from existing resources and the additional monies will be made available, if and when the House approves them, during the supplementary appropriation. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 252-13(6): St. John's Ambulance Services

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Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are for Minister Ng , Minister of Health and Social Services , in regard to St. John Ambulance services provisions in the Northwest Territories. As the Minister knows, I have raised this question a number of times in regard to funding for that organization. Some three years ago, the funding for the organization was reduced and in an association like other organizations, I think that was only fair to approach it that way. Last year they were reduced from $100,000 to $50,000 and this year they were reduced to no funds at all. That is a concern to the association because of their work that they do.

The Minister in a reply to me dated yesterday stated that he was turning down our request, our further request from the Yellowknife MLAs to reinstate some funding. My question for the Minister is, in regard to the reasons, and the Minister states that non-government organizations that are considered to be providing basic service receive funding. My question for the Minister is, what does he consider and can he give me an example of basic service? Thank you.

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, a basic service is in respect to delivering something that would be directly related to Health and Social Services program. I use, for example, off the top of my head, the NWT Mental Health Association, to deliver a service and providing an Aids and HIV information line. They have a contribution agreement from us to provide that type of service. Thank you.

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Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So, it is because Aids NWT has a contribution agreement with the department, but I want to point out to the Minister and lead up to my question, then that St. John's Ambulance has always provided in all communities in the Northwest Territories first aid training and that is done on a voluntary basis, if I understand correctly. The concern I have is, what is the difference between St. John's Ambulance being regarded as non basic and the HIV information helpline as being a basic service? Thank you.

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Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I guess it is an

interpretation of what would be a basic service in the respect of first aid training which is not a specific health and social services program, although I recognize the importance of it, versus something like the HIV/AIDS Awareness Program which we feel is an important aspect of health programming. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I consider the work of St. John's Ambulance in all communities in the Northwest Territories to be an essential service. It certainly has been for the last 20 years and it really surprises me that we cannot get support for this, Mr. Speaker. My question to the Minister is, to his knowledge, what other services are available to be provided other than St. John's Ambulance in the communities for safety and first aid training? Thank you.

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I do not have the specifics of what other organizations or companies do that; I am aware that there are companies in the private sector which provides first aid training and safety awareness. I will get that information for the Member. Thank you.

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Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would suggest that there are not enough, at the moment, private sector operators to provide service in all communities. I am wondering if the Minister will undertake to survey the communities throughout the north, to see in what fashion they consider St. John's Ambulance service necessary. Thank you.

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I can commit to taking a look at that, I do not know the extent of how we can determine that, but I will figure out a mechanism to do that. Thank you.

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question today is for the Minister of Finance . I have received a concern from a constituent in Hay River. My question has to do with the job re-evaluation process that took place. Some positions were deemed or assigned, a lower pay scale than what is currently being paid to an employee in that position. Mr. Todd has previously provided assurances in the House that these GNWT employees would not see a decrease in their salary scales as a result of that evaluation process.

It would seem that since then there has been information in the public that, in fact, this was just a two-year moratorium and after two years those affected positions would see their salaries decrease. I was wondering if the Minister could clarify that for us. Thank you.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My understanding of the policy or the decision on job evaluation was that those employees that say, around pay level 22 and under the new system went to 18, would be red circled. I have got to check with my department, to see if, in fact, there was a sunset clause on it. I am not familiar with that but if there was, I will report back to my honourable colleague as quickly as I can. Thank you.

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe this is a very important question that needs to be clarified because it is part of what the employees understood in accepting these changes. I would like to have that clarified as soon as possible. I am sure Mr. Todd would not mind telling me how quickly he might be able to respond to that for me. Thank you.

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Mr. Speaker, I agree with my honourable colleague that it was an important component to get an acceptance, if you want, of the job evaluation system. It was never the intent, at least not mine anyway, as Finance Minister , to penalize anybody in this important exercise that we undertook with respect to the Hay Job Evaluation system so I will look into it today. Given the agenda for today and Monday, report back on Tuesday. Thank you.

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Question 254-13(6): Update On Land And Resources Dispute

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Kevin O'Brien

Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is to the Minister responsible for RWED , Mr. Kakfwi . Mr. Speaker, I wonder if the Minister could give the House an update as to the status of the dispute that centres around the Dene band in northern Manitoba and also Saskatchewan regarding the land rights, fishing and hunting rights. My understanding, Mr. Speaker, is that there is a dispute regarding the land that is currently to be encompassed in Nunavut and the Dene band are saying that this land actually belongs to them. I wonder if the Minister could give us an update on the situation.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, there are aboriginal peoples living outside of the boundaries of the Northwest Territories who have claim to lands and rights within our borders. This has been unresolved for a great many years. The Minister for Aboriginal Affairs , Mr. Antoine , would have more information regarding the status of these First Nations' initiatives to clarify and define the rights that they possess. I would ask the Minister of Aboriginal Affairs to provide us with that information in his capacity as Minister for Aboriginal Affairs . Thank you.

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Question 255-13(6): Aboriginal Language Community Contributions

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Edward Picco

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Education . The aboriginal language translation and

interpretation services provided by the Language Bureau was privatized in 1997. In June, 1997, the Cabinet authorized a reallocation of the budget formerly used for these services or about $1.437 million to be allocated to the language groups. I understand, Mr. Speaker, that there is only $350,000 from the original $1.437 million available to the aboriginal language groups in the Northwest Territories. Given that the Minister has stated that the closure of the Language Bureau was not a cost-cutting exercise, I am wondering why only $350,000 is available for the several different language organizations and groups in the Northwest Territories? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Dent .

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, when we were discussing this issue in the first instance, we had estimated that the privatization of the interpreter/translator corps would free up approximately $500,000. In fact, what it has freed up for distribution for language communities is about $450,000, not $350,000, as the Member has mentioned. The Member is correct that not all of the money that was being used before could be freed up as we still have statutory requirements to translate materials.

What happened was, over the course of two years, the department tracked how much, for instance, the Department of Public Works used the interpreter/translator services and allocated a cost to those services and transferred that money to the Department of Public Works and Services so they can continue to source those services as they need them. In doing that, the total amount that was left over after we allocated all the monies to the different departments, was about $450,000. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Edward Picco

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the privatization of the Language Bureau, the way I understand it is that, indeed, when we had interpreters and translators available to this government on salary, indeed, it was cheaper for the government. Now it is costing them more money to go to the private sector and, indeed, some monies have had to come forward from different departments to pay for these funds. My follow-up supplementary question is, has any money been made available or given to the Inuktitut language group in Nunavut? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I do know that, as of last week, there had been three agreements signed with aboriginal language communities. I do not believe that any of these was with the Inuktitut language community. I will have to check on that and get back to the Member. There were I believe, three contracts under negotiation. It may be in process if it has not taken place yet. I will endeavour to provide the Member with an answer within the next day. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Edward Picco

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, what is the process for the language groups to be able to get access to this money? If the Minister could explain that process and, indeed, how much money is available per language group? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The process is that the language communities can apply to our department for the funds. We have run ads in newspapers across the Northwest Territories. We have written to various organizations advising them of this possibility. In response to the second part of the Member's question, the amount of money that has been allocated per language community is $50,000. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Edward Picco

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in the answer just given by the Minister, am I to understand that, indeed, each language group, for example, in Nunavut would it be NTI, they have to submit some type of proposal of how they will use this money and then the department will review the proposal and then submit the allocated $50,000, if that was the amount? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We are expecting that the proposals will come into the department for allocation of the money, demonstrating the group is representative of the language community and yes, how they will use the money. The money was in our budget for promotion and development of aboriginal languages. We would expect to see those criteria addressed in the proposals. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 256-13(6): Nunavut And Manitoba Land Dispute

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Kevin O'Brien

Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, following up to my earlier question, I wonder if Minister Antoine , the Minister of Aboriginal Affairs , will provide the update I was seeking regarding the land dispute between the Dene band in northern Manitoba regarding the land that is encompassed in Nunavut? Thank you.

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The Minister responsible for Aboriginal Affairs , Mr. Antoine .

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

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Question 257-13(6): New Down Payment Pilot Program

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James Rabesca

North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Regarding the Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation's statement, regarding the New Homeownership Pilot Program for the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation, that he alluded to. Is it geared mainly to purchase a new homeownership along side, the same statement, this morning he alluded to, across the Northwest Territories, there are approximately over 250 private homes sitting empty and he alluded to say let us give the people a chance to buy these homes.

What I am trying to get at is that maybe the Minister is telling us that this program is only intended to, or not intended to buy new homes, or is it intended to buy used homes? I would like to have the Minister's clarification on this, please. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Acting Premier, Mr. Arlooktoo .

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Goo Arlooktoo

Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. MDAPP is geared towards the purchase of existing homes. The homes I talked about that are sitting empty in communities across the Northwest Territories, including the Member's communities and that, I think, counterbalances, in a way, the other program that we have, EDAP, the Expanded Down Payment Assistance Program, which is more geared towards the purchase or the building of a new home, although it could be used for existing homes and, also, the money that we set aside for social housing. It is towards the purchase of existing homes that are sitting empty in these communities. Thank you.

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