Debates of June 6th, 2016

This is page numbers 363-408 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

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Topics

Oral Questions

Members Present

Prayer

Ministers’ Statements

Minister’s Statement 37-18(2): Medical Assistance In Dying

Minister’s Statement 38-18(2): Funding Changes For Licensed Day Care Centres And Family Day Home

Hydraulic Fracturing Consultations

18th Legislative Assembly Mandate

Celebrating Ramadan 2016

Combating Climate Change

GNWT Summer Student Employment Program

Economic Valuation Of All-Season Road To Whati

Cultural Area at Moose Kerr School in Aklavik

Small Community Employment Program

National Indian Brotherhood Trust Fund

Tuktoyaktuk Tuberculosis Incident

Tourism Opportunities In Hay River

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Consistency Of Restraint And Reduction Initiatives

Small Community Employment Program

Economic Evaluation Of All-Season Road To Whati

Hydraulic Fracturing Consultations

Addressing Homelessness In Yellowknife

Cultural Area At Moose Kerr School In Aklavik

GNWT Summer Student Employment Program

Tuberculosis Programs

Carbon Pricing

Replies to Budget Address

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Report of Committee of the Whole

Orders of the Day

Members Present

Hon. Glen Abernethy , Mr. Beaulieu , Mr. Blake , Hon. Caroline Cochrane , Ms. Green , Hon. Jackson Lafferty , Hon. Bob McLeod , Hon. Robert McLeod , Mr. McNeely , Hon. Alfred Moses , Mr. Nadli , Mr. Nakimayak , Mr. O’Reilly, Mr. Testart , Hon. Wally Schumann , Hon. Louis Sebert , Mr. Simpson , Mr. Thompson , Mr. Vanthuyne

The House met at 1:30 p.m.

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Ministers’ Statements

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

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Minister’s Statement 37-18(2): Medical Assistance In Dying

Ministers’ Statements

Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

In February 2015, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled that certain provisions in the Criminal Code related to physician-assisted dying were unconstitutional. June 6this the day the Supreme Court's ruling actually takes effect across this country. Medical assisted dying is an option for eligible Canadians.

Mr. Speaker, the NWT is ready to ensure residents can access this option if they request it. The Department of Health and Social Services has developed interim guidelines that set the rules for how medical assistance in dying will be requested and provided in the Northwest Territories.

Our priority is to protect both patients and the health care providers involved in the medical assistance in dying. The interim guidelines establish eligibility criteria that patients must meet in order to access the services so that vulnerable people are protected. Patients must be 18 years of age, must be capable of making decisions with respect to their health, and must have a terminal medical condition. Safeguards have also been established to ensure this service is provided in a safe, fair, and caring manner.

Safeguards require that patients are assessed by two independent practitioners and that a mandatory reflection period passes before medical assistance in dying is provided. The patient will have explicit opportunities to withdraw their request throughout the process. The interim guidelines also require that patients are informed of all alternatives to medical assistance in dying, such as palliative care, and that they expressly consent to this service before it is provided.

The department has worked closely with the steering committee, which includes representatives from front-line health care provider associations, including the NWT Medical Association, Registered Nurses Association of the NWT and Nunavut, and the NWT Pharmacists Association. We have also worked closely with the Department of Justice in the development of our interim guidelines.

Mr. Speaker, this can be a challenging issue for many of our residents. Medical assistance in dying is a deeply personal subject for many people. I want to reassure our residents that the interim guidelines do not compel health care providers to provide, or assist in the provision of, medical assistance in dying. Health care providers and patients have the right not to participate. The department has set up a central coordinating service that will facilitate a patient's access to willing practitioners so that health care providers have the freedom to respect their conscience and religious or cultural beliefs.

Information on medical assistance in dying can be provided, but under no circumstances can this service be encouraged or recommended. If a request for medical assistance in dying is made, it must be made voluntarily.

Mr. Speaker, the guidelines are only an interim measure. The department expects to propose a medical assistance in dying legislative framework for the NWT before the end of this fiscal year. The federal government's future amendments to the Criminal Code will greatly influence our legislative framework and our final guidelines. The department will also continue to work with the Steering Committee as we develop the proposed legislation.

We expect the legislative framework will further address concerns raised by the public and allow us to further ensure values and culture are respected, alongside with the right of patients to seek medical assistance in dying if they choose to do so. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister’s Statement 37-18(2): Medical Assistance In Dying

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Ministers’ statements. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment .

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Minister’s Statement 38-18(2): Funding Changes For Licensed Day Care Centres And Family Day Home

Ministers’ Statements

Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Government of the Northwest Territories understands the importance of early childhood development, and has been focused on developing and implementing programs and services for families with young children for the past few years. Healthy development during the first few years of life is crucial for lifelong success.

I would like to share today some of the positive funding changes we are making in early childhood development. In 2014-15, as a commitment of the Right from the Start Action Plan, the department of Education, Culture and Employment conducted a review of the early childhood program. This included engagements with various groups in the early childhood sector to assess what was working and what needed improvement in our approach to supporting licensed daycares and day homes.

The changes to Early Childhood Program funding announced in the recent budget will focus on three areas: the operating subsidies, the Early Childhood Intervention Program, and Supporting New Early Childhood Licensed Operators.

Under operating subsidies, we are revising the operating subsidy model to licensed day care and day home operators to replicate increasing costs to operate these facilities and to ensure the sustainability of the programs. Licensed family day homes and daycare centre facilities will both receive an increase in their operating subsidies. The increase will be dependent on which community they operate in. As an example, the daily subsidy rate for a daycare in Fort McPherson will see a subsidy increase of 145 per cent for infant spaces and 46 per cent for pre-school spaces.

The larger increase in the subsidy for infant spaces reflects the need for increased staff for infants and acknowledges this is an area of demand. We are also changing our approach to operators in government-owned buildings who will now receive 75 per cent of the daily rate, which is an increase from 50 per cent of the daily rate that was previously provided. We are significantly cutting the red tape and streamlining the application process for early childhood subsidies.

Now one application form and contribution agreement will replace three previous contribution agreements, and an approach to multi-year agreements is being developed.

Mr. Speaker, the Early Childhood Intervention Program will be re-focused on children with identified special needs. One of the items we heard consistently during the review was that the previous program which was to provide additional support to children with special needs was often used to offset general operating expenses. The new approach will include steps to ensure this funding is used to support children with special needs that attend early childhood programs.

Finally, we are changing our approach to supporting new day care operators where a start-up subsidy to offset mortgage or rent costs can be obtained for a fixed period of time, or it can be provided as a forgivable loan. There will also be enhanced support for equipment for new operators. These changes represent numerous meetings, discussions, and feedback from stakeholders across the North. They are necessary to ensure our licensed operators can focus on the needs of children under their care across the territory.

With this government's focus on supporting quality early childhood development, we believe this brings us one step closer to making good choices right from the start for northern families. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister’s Statement 38-18(2): Funding Changes For Licensed Day Care Centres And Family Day Home

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Jackson Lafferty

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Hydraulic Fracturing Consultations

Members’ Statements

Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to address how the government is applying our important central principle of transparency and public engagement to an issue that is concerning to many residents of the territory. That is hydraulic fracturing.

Mr. Speaker, this Assembly has committed to transparency in public engagement and, to that end, we are also committed to make sure that residents have a voice in assessing the risks and benefits of resource development including hydraulic fracturing.

Fracking is a tough call. We know that my colleague from the Sahtu, among others, cares about the potential jobs and economic growth that development might create in his region and possibly using fracking. We know that diversifying and growing the economy is not a quick process. It is important to hang on to economies that work. We know that opportunities for growth and job creation are hard to come by especially in the smaller communities.

On the other hand, we know that my colleague from Frame Lake, among others, feels that the environmental risks of fracking are very serious and so should we even take the chance? We know that fracking is linked to increased seismic activity but we don't know how much. We know there can be impacts on water quality, but we don't know how much. We know that starting this month, the provincial regulator in B.C. is stepping up its monitoring of seismic activity because of small earthquakes caused by fracturing.

We also know that there is no current industry interest in oil and gas exploration in the NWT, but that is not a reason to drop the fracking subject. We should have the discussion now, while we are not under industry and public pressure to do so. The opposing views about fracking and other resource development are precisely the reason that an open and transparent public debate is important and the slowdown in oil and gas makes now the time to do it, Mr. Speaker.

Residents of the Northwest Territories need to know that the government wants to hear their views. They need to trust there will be an open and constructive public discussion on this issue and they need to be reassured that this Government's commitment to openness and transparency will be upheld. Mr. Speaker, at the appropriate time, I will have questions for the Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment . Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Hydraulic Fracturing Consultations

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Jackson Lafferty

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18th Legislative Assembly Mandate

Members’ Statements

Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I want to talk about change. As I was doing this statement, I went to the Webster's Dictionary to find the simplest definition of change: “to become different; to make someone or something different; to become something else.” Last October, the country of Canada wanted change and so did the people of the NWT. Change did happen. People in the Northwest Territories elected 11 new Members and eight returning Members to the Legislative Assembly in hopes that change will occur for the betterment of the NWT. Mr.

Speaker, two candidates running for the Premier position spoke about change and working together. The two quotes that resonated with me were, "he or she has a critical role in ensuring the collaboration and productive working relationship between Cabinet, Regular Members, stakeholders, and the public." The second quote is, "I welcome commitment and look forward to working with every one of you to give the people of Northwest Territories the kind of government they want and deserve." We need more cooperation and new mechanisms to enable greater input from Regular Members.

Mr. Speaker, I was excited and I was hoping that I was going to be part of the change revolution for the betterment of the residents of the Northwest Territories after listening to these two candidates. Unfortunately, I have not seen much change to date. I am disappointed to say the least. It seems that, once election to Cabinet and Premiers was done, things stayed the same. It has been interesting to see how things have evolved in the past six months.

The government stressed we are in a difficult time: excluded members had their wages frozen, rumours about staffing cuts and programs reductions circulated but at the same time the Government was advertising for new hires. This is very confusing for our public service, residents, and NWT, and thus the Ordinary MLAs. Mr. Speaker, I do have to give credit to the Premier . We saw some new deputy ministers come in the system and I thank him for that. As well, we saw some re-alignment of portfolios, but some portfolios stayed the same with the deputy ministers.

I guess if you look back at the simple definition of change, change happened. However, it is not what we thought it would be when we came here six months ago. Mr. Speaker, I will have some questions for the Premier to help clear up some confusion over there. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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18th Legislative Assembly Mandate

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Jackson Lafferty

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Celebrating Ramadan 2016

Members’ Statements

Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

Mr. Speaker, Ramadan begins this week. Many Muslims in the North and around the world will begin a month-long spiritual journey of fasting, prayer, and reflection to honour the revealing of the holy Koran to Prophet Mohammed. During this hallowed month, members of Islam fast during daylight hours to increase their patience, closeness to God, and generosity towards those less fortunate. This is a time when our vibrant Muslim community here in the North invites their neighbours and friends to share their evening meal Iftar, recite passages from the Koran together, emboldening each other to be at their most charitable.

There are many things everyday Northerners can appreciate about Ramadan, and I encourage all peoples in our great territory to learn more about it from their friends and neighbours in Islam. We can appreciate a universal reminder to show gratefulness for the numerous blessings we enjoy.

Let us take this time, Mr. Speaker, this week and throughout the month to recognize and show appreciation for the most important contributions of the northern Muslim community to our social fabric. I stand in constant awe knowing that all Northerners welcome the continuing diversity of our people, that we not only acknowledge our cultural mosaic as one of our great strengths, but as a key aspect to the future of the Northwest Territories. I advise you, Mr. Speaker and all Members of this House, and wish all those observing this holy month a blessed and peaceful Ramadan. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Celebrating Ramadan 2016

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Jackson Lafferty

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Combating Climate Change

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. The past six months have brought international and federal/ provincial/territorial developments in the fight against climate change. After almost a decade of inaction, our federal government is finally taking its first steps on climate change. In our federation, participation and cooperation of provinces and territories is also required.

At the December COP, climate change conference in Paris, our federal government made ambitious commitments for renewed action on climate change. GNWT representatives at COP21 met with the Nunavut and Yukon delegations to discuss a pan-territorial position on climate change. In March, Ottawa further reinforced its COP21 commitments in a U.S.-Canada joint statement on climate, energy, and Arctic leadership. The Prime Minister met with provincial and territorial leaders including our Premier Bob McLeod in Vancouver in March of this year.

The meeting recognized that a price on carbon is an essential tool in the fight against climate change and that carbon pricing will be "adapted to each province's specific circumstances and in particular the reality of Canada's Indigenous peoples in Arctic and subarctic regions." The meeting also resulted in an agreement to set up working groups to study four main areas of climate change: clean technology, innovation and jobs, carbon pricing, and mitigation. The working groups will report back in October and the findings of those reports will be used to create a Canadian framework for clean growth and climate change.

Our northern territorial Premier still appears to oppose carbon pricing, asserting that its impacts on northern costs of living are unacceptable, even though the federal government has promised $2.9 billion over five years to help Canada meet its international climate change obligations. I am hoping the work resulting from Vancouver will sway northern leaders to reconsider carbon pricing. Eighty per cent of Canadians now live under some sort of carbon pricing. Carbon pricing can be made to be revenue neutral and sensitive to the needs of rural and remote communities.

As one of the jurisdictions in Canada most affected by the negative consequences of climate change, we can't sit on the sidelines and wait. The federal government has been clear on the possibility that if an agreement is not reached on carbon pricing a national program can be imposed. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted

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Combating Climate Change

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker and thanks to my colleagues. Advocacy for the adoption of a made in the Northwest Territories carbon tax has been underway for some years. I will be urging this government to look again at a carbon price as an indispensable and inevitable tool for decreasing emissions. I will have questions for the Premier as the primary Minister responsible for energy and climate change later today. Thanks, Mr. Speaker.

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Combating Climate Change

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Jackson Lafferty

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GNWT Summer Student Employment Program

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

Thank you Mr. Speaker. Today I will have some questions for the Minister responsible for Human Resources with respect to summer students. Summer students are our next generation. They face many challenges. Endless hours of homework, daily living costs, those are just a few to mention. At the very least, what our government should be doing is meeting them halfway to ensure we are behind them 110 percent during their summer endeavours to seek income, so they can fly back to their respective apartments and school designation to continue their curriculum. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Economic Valuation Of All-Season Road To Whati

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I now have the economic evaluation of the all-weather road to Whati. I would like to share the findings of this report completed by Nichols Applied Management of Edmonton in March 2015.

To begin with, the request for construction of this road came from Fortune Minerals, a company whose stock trades for pennies a share. The company is making the road a condition of developing its gold, cobalt, bismuth, and copper project 50 kilometres north of Whati. The road would connect Highway No. 3 to Whati. Estimated costs: $152 million.

The road is a gamble, Mr. Speaker. If the 60-kilometre road is built and the mine isn't, the economic costs outweigh benefits by as much as $135 million. The combined net benefit of the road to both the communities and Fortune Minerals, in that case, is just $12 million. The road without a mine is not much of a prize in strictly economic terms. If the mine is built, the net benefit for the NWT goes up to $141 million using the base case price for commodities.

Mr. Speaker, there is no question that this road will have benefits for the people of Whati. Approximately 96 per cent of the $152 million construction cost will be spent in the Tlicho region where residents will be employed in construction and road maintenance. Construction jobs are the real prize, generating $25 million of labour income. But maintenance of the all-weather road will produce less employment income than maintenance of the current winter road. So the benefits are short and sharp over the two-year construction period.

Other road benefits are more difficult to monetize. Whati residents will be able to travel year round to shop, seek medical attention, and visit family and friends. They will spend more on gas, but less on air travel. The cost of living in Whati will probably go down. While some residents see opportunities, others are concerned about an influx of outsiders, a disruption of their traditional way of life, and ready access to drugs and alcohol.

Mr. Speaker, I am puzzled why the government is entertaining the idea of building a road to Whati. The cost-benefit analysis concludes that the direct stimulative nature of the Tlicho road investment is larger than that of the Nico construction project itself. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement, please.

---Unanimous consent granted.

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Economic Valuation Of All-Season Road To Whati

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker, and thanks, colleagues. The direct stimulative nature of the Tlicho road investment is larger than that of the Nico construction project itself. That is because this contrasts with the Nico project, whose economic impact is most felt outside the NWT because the majority of its mining and milling equipment and all of its smelter and refinery capital expenditure will also occur outside of the NWT, specifically in Saskatchewan. I will have questions for the Minister of Transportation . Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Cultural Area at Moose Kerr School in Aklavik

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today my statement is on the need for a cultural area at Moose Kerr School. Mr. Speaker, during my last visit to Aklavik, the school mentioned that they would like to have two buildings removed from the premises of Moose Kerr School's area. One building was built in the 1960s, and the other in the 1970s, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, once these buildings are removed, the school would like to set up a cultural area where students can take

part in cultural activities, both in Inuvialuit, Gwich'in classes and other areas that relate to this. Mr. Speaker, this is a great idea, a good initiative the school has taken on. I will have questions for the Minister later today. Thank you.

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Cultural Area at Moose Kerr School in Aklavik

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Jackson Lafferty

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Small Community Employment Program

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Marci cho, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the young people that are looking for work today, employment in small communities, specifically the Small Community Employment Program centre administered by NCE. Mr. Speaker, as most people know by now, employment rates in NWT small communities are very low. The small communities rely on short term, and casual, and project-based employment in order to provide for their families. The Small Community Employment Program has $1.2 million and that will help put people to work on various projects based in the communities.

Mr. Speaker, the Small Community Employment Program is very important to our communities. With this program, the communities can apply for various pots of money that can also be used to create short-term jobs in the communities. Mr. Speaker, a Small Communities Employment Program can be used on housing projects, community works, road construction, to mention a few where this funding can be utilized.

With a Small Community Employment Program, people are able to get off income support program during the time that they are working, and if the project provides them with enough weeks, they can even come off the income support program for a longer period or even permanently. That of course would be dependent upon their eligibility for the federal employment insurance payments or if their short-term work leads to a permanent job. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Later, I will have questions for the Minister of ECE on this matter. Thank you.

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National Indian Brotherhood Trust Fund

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Mr. Speaker, the National Indian Brotherhood Trust Fund studies the problem that face Aboriginal people across Canada and works to propose solutions and to protect First Nations cultures and values. Since 2009, the Trust has also delivered educational programs and students financial assistance. It also provides healing and reconciliation programs to support First Nations people as they address the intergenerational impacts of the Indian residential school program.

Now I would like to talk about the last one a bit more. Mr. Speaker, through a fund administered by the Trust both individuals and groups can apply for funding for education programs aimed at healing and reconciliation.

Mr. Speaker, individuals can also apply to this fund. Aboriginal people, including survivors of residential school can access up to 20,000 to support their education, healing, and reconciliation. That could mean money for tuition, living expenses, or books and other supplies, or money for participation in traditional education programs or formal research. Mr. Speaker, the deadline for individual applications to this fund is June 24, 2016. I encourage anyone listening today to visit the website of the National Indian Brotherhood Trust Fund for more information about this opportunity. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Tuktoyaktuk Tuberculosis Incident

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Herbert Nakimayak

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I am going to talk about tuberculosis or TB. Mr. Speaker, earlier this month, residents of Tuktoyaktuk were tested for tuberculosis or TB after finding out a recent visitor had an active case of this disease.

TB is a bacterial infection that typically affects the lungs. It is also a shameful part of Canada's colonial history. From 1950 to 1969, it is estimated one third of Inuit in Canada contracted TB, a disease brought north by settlers. During those years, thousands of people were taken south for medical treatment and many were never able to return to their homes. Today Canada has one of the lowest overall TB rates in the world, but Mr. Speaker, some regions and peoples are still hit much harder than that. First Nations Metis and Inuit are the most likely to have current TB diagnosis.

Nineteen per cent of reported cases in 4 per cent of the country's population. In that group Inuit would have the highest rate of 154.2 per 100,000 population. Let's put that into perspective, Mr. Speaker. The rate for non- Aboriginal Canadians is 0.6 percent per 100,000.

Last year, researchers traced a strain of tuberculosis common in the Canadian North right back to its arrival in 1919. These researchers also found that this strain was not any stronger than others, despite the prevalence of TB in the North. Mr. Speaker, it is clear that TB's impacts are magnified by Northerner’s limited access to affordable healthy food, regular health care, and housing without overcrowding.

Thanks to the quick work of health officials, the risk of additional infections in Tuktoyaktuk as a result of the recent incident is very low and all potentially affected residents have been notified. However, we must still be vigilant to address the root cause of Northerners' heightened vulnerability to tuberculosis. This incident is a reminder. Later on, I will have questions for the Minister of Health and Social Services . Quyanainni, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Tourism Opportunities In Hay River

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R.J. Simpson

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In the South Slave, we have many of the traditional tourist attractions: the waterfalls, wildlife, campgrounds, and miles of sandy beaches. We have to continue to preserve and promote these attractions. However, we need to think beyond these traditional forms of tourism. There are exciting and unique opportunities in my region that we need to capitalize on in order to diversify our economy and insulate us from fluctuations in global commodity prices.

The government is working on the commercial fisheries revitalization strategy. As home of the commercial fishing industry in the territory, breathing new life into the fishery can be a boon to Hay River's tourist sector. One just has to look at the popularity of Pike Place Market in Seattle or the Fisherman's Wharf in San Francisco to see that commercial fishing brings significant tourist potential. In fact, the Fisherman's Wharf in Hay River is already the most popular summer venue in town.

While designing our new fish processing facility, we must also keep in mind and capitalize on its potential as an integral part of the overall tourism strategy. Tourists have also expressed interest in going out on the lake on a working commercial fishing vessel, and this is something that we must explore as well. Because of jurisdictional issues, we will need this government's supports to work with the feds on policy and regulatory changes to allow this.

Hay River is also lucky enough to be the home of the Northern Farm Training Institute. NFTI, as it is known has garnered international attention from those interested in agriculture and the environment, as well as from academics in the scientific community. It is uniquely positioned to be a agri-tourist and ecotourist destination as well as a venue for scientific and agriculture conferences. This is truly something unique that very few places can offer. Because of the work NFTI has already done, it is a member of a world-wide network and has access to potential tourists from around the globe. It has also created a three-year tourism plan and is working hard to build its own capacity.

This government needs to embrace and support efforts like this. Mr. Speaker, these are just two examples, but I could go on. By thinking outside the box and supporting these and other unique opportunities, we could help turn Hay River into a true tourist destination. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members’ statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Colleagues, I would like to draw you attention to the people in the gallery. We have a former Member of the Legislative Assembly. Mr. Jim Antoine is here with us. Thank you. Masi. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member from Nahendeh .

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to also recognize Jim Antoine, his wife Celine Antoine, Tumbah Antoine, who graduated from Dechinta this past Saturday after two months in the bush, as well as Deneze Nakahk’o, former resident of Deh Cho, Fort Simpson, the Liidlii Kue First Nation and as well I'd be remiss not to recognize one of my sons, as I call him, Wade Vaneltsi. Welcome. Thank you.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to recognize the group from Dechinta there, and more specifically Rachael MacCauley, who graduated this past Saturday evening, and her mother Helen. Welcome to the House.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Herbert Nakimayak

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I just want to welcome everyone from Dechinta here, as well as Mr. Jordan Peterson. He's running in an upcoming election for the Gwich'in Tribal Council and it's good to see young guys like yourself getting into politics and doing the better good for your people. Welcome. Quyanainni, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to recognize one of my constituents, Dennis Inaheko, who is living out in Kam Lake now after relocating from Fort Simpson. I'd also like to recognize all of the folks here from Dechinta for the great work they do and the journey they've taken. Thank you, Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to recognize Iris Catholique. She is a former resident of Lutselk'e. Her family is still in Lutselk'e, I think she resides in Yellowknife now. Thank you.

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Jackson Lafferty

Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Deh Cho .

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I too would like to recognize the Dechinta graduates, the on-the-land graduates including Tumbah Antoine and other students as well as program leaders that made this program quite possible. I'd like to extend congratulations to them, also acknowledging Celine and Jim Antoine and their family being present in the gallery, and also Denezeh Nahkeko as well. And last but not least, I'd like to recognize two Pages from my riding of Kakisa, Maverick Canadien. His parents are Terry Simba and Julie Canadien. He's in grade seven; he's 12 years old.

I'd like to welcome here to the Assembly, at the same time, Sadee Simba. Her parents are Nora and Wayne Simba and she's in grade 8 and she's 14 years old. I believe their chaperone is Nora Simba. Mahsi.

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to welcome Wade Vaneltsi also my cousin from Fort McPherson. Also I'd like to recognize Jordan Peterson and also everybody from Dechinta who just spent two months in the bush, Mr. Speaker. It's good to see. Mahsi cho.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd also like to recognize Jim Antoine in the gallery today. Jim is the chair designate of the new Territorial Health and Social and Services Authority and I look forward to continuing to work with Jim over the coming years as we move to one authority. Thank you, Jim. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I would like to, first of all, congratulate everyone who was part of the Dechinta University experience this time around. And I would like to recognize and introduce my partner Janice McKenna. Thank you.

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Jackson Lafferty

Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Inuvik Boot Lake .

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I had the opportunity to attend the Dechinta grad on Saturday and just for the record I'd like to let Members know who's all here and which community they're from. Congratulations once again Rachael MacCauley from Tulita, Tumbah Antoine from Lutselk’e Fort Simpson, Barbara Ann Blancho, Colville Lake, Sheila Karkagie, Tulita, Wade Clifford Vaneltsi, Fort McPherson, Chelsea Marie Migwy, Behchoko, Kayla Tulugarjuk from Igloolik. So we're also getting students from Nunavut as well. And Thumlee Etthenegon-Foliot. Once again, congratulations. I'd like to thank the staff for all their hard work and also welcome Jim and Celine Antoine here joining us today and a good friend

Deneze Nakehk’o

. Welcome, and I hope you enjoy the proceedings. Thank you.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The previous speakers stole most of my thunder, but I think there might have been a couple of names that he did miss. I believe Dr. Erin Freeland Ballantyne's in the audience. She's the dean of Unbiased Activities, Research and Innovation, Dechinta Bush University. I believe Barbara Ann Blancho of Colville Lake is also in the gallery. So greetings to all the folks here from Dechinta, especially the grads on your important achievement. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. I too would like to congratulate all the Dechinta graduates, the great work of Ms. Ballantyne, and Bishop Converione, and Chelsea Migwy. Thanks for being here with us, and also those individuals that may not have been highlighted today; thanks for being here with us. It's always great to have an audience in the gallery. Masi.

Item 6, acknowledgements. Item 7, oral questions. Member for Nahendeh .

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Question 165-18(2): Consistency Of Restraint And Reduction Initiatives

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today you heard from my Member's statement about the topic of change. As I said in my statement, I have some questions of the Premier to help clear up some confusion and hopefully help the residents of the NWT have a clear understanding what is happening here in this Assembly. Mr. Speaker, Cabinet decided that it was important to freeze excluded employee salaries increases and potential bonuses as part of the government's reduction plan. Mr.

Speaker, can the Premier please explain to us in the public why Cabinet froze the excluded employee salary and at the same time the government continue to advertise in the paper for recruiting future workers and government. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Honourable Premier .

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Question 165-18(2): Consistency Of Restraint And Reduction Initiatives

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. What the government announced is that there would be no economic adjustments for excluded employees and this was publicly announced by the Finance Minister in February. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 165-18(2): Consistency Of Restraint And Reduction Initiatives

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

The Premier answered part of the question, but I'll move onto my next one. Mr. Speaker, there has been conversation and rumours out in the public service and on the streets of communities that the NWT are about to potentially realign some of the departments. Can the Premier please confirm that this option has been looked at and discussed?

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

No decisions have been made as of yet. Possibly there could be changes. It depends on the outcomes of zero-base reviews. If there is a business case to support any amalgamations, those proposals will be reflected in the 2017-18 business plans and we'll reviewed with committees this fall, and I hope the committee will support changes that would be proposed if any at that time.

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I thank the Premier for his answer. I know for one I will give my hand out and am willing to work with you if it's exchanged back and forth, so I thank the Premier for that statement. Mr. Speaker, with these potential alignments of departments, will the Premier look at reducing the Cabinet size from seven to six as part of the reduction process? Thank you.

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Our experience is that workload from Ministers does not significantly decrease when departments are amalgamated, and I'm not saying we're going to do that, but if we do I don’t expect there will be any changes to the number of Cabinet Ministers. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Nahendeh .

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I thank the Premier for his answer. Mr. Speaker, I understand and appreciate how the Premier answered the question, but can he please explain what the difference is between cabinet positions and public servant positions when we're doing reductions. If the government wants the public service to reduce their numbers, why can't we do that to show leadership on our end? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Thank you for clarifying the position. If the business case shows that there's opportunities for increased effectiveness and efficiencies, that's where the difference comes in, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 166-18(2): Small Community Employment Program

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Mahsi Cho, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, during my member's statement I’d talked about the Small Community Employment Program that's administered by ECE. I'd like to ask the Minister a couple of questions. Mr. Speaker, what is the plan for the utilization of the Small Communities Employment Program in this fiscal year?

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 166-18(2): Small Community Employment Program

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you. With the Small Community Employment Support Program, it's a program that's been around for many years. We're going to continue to do the work and focus on the training on the job as well as community initiative, provide project based on training. So training on the job has been very successful in our communities. Currently, I believe we do the program in 26 communities in the Northwest Territories. Small community is defined by any community that is less than 1,000 people.

In the 2015-16 fiscal year we had 303 NWT residents participate; 196 went through the individual training on the job, and the other 107 through group-based training opportunities just to name a few of the successes of this program. So we're going to continue in those two areas and hopefully we get more requests. There was a surplus of the funding last year and hopefully moving forward we get more people in the communities getting ready to take on some of the jobs. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Mr. Speaker, I'd like to ask the Minister another question on this. Mr. Speaker, has the Minister engaged other Ministers in carrying out the mandate of increasing employment in small communities specific to this particular program?

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

I think the program is very unique and very successful, and as I mentioned on April 20thwhen we did release the Labour Market Information and Needs Assessment and we're starting to develop the action plan that we're hoping to table in the fall session that from now until we develop that action plan we are going to be getting a lot of feedback and information all our stakeholders and that includes other departments as we move forward with the Labour Market Information Action Plan, but also utilizing the Small Community Employment Support Program as we start developing skill development in our residents.

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Question 166-18(2): Small Community Employment Program

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Can the Minister advise how the Department of ECE will be allocating the small community employment program to the communities, whether project based or so much per community, just a quick word on how the funding will be allocated to the small communities.

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Question 166-18(2): Small Community Employment Program

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

As I mentioned, Mr. Speaker, there's 26 communities that we currently work with. The reason 26 communities is because we don’t have ECE regional office in all the communities, and the ones that are under 1,000 people, we work with them and we help them work on giving the applications to apply for this funding to support on-the-job training and support group-based activities in the community as well to develop that training. So we'll continue to work with all our communities, the 26 of them, to make sure that they have an understanding and in having questions asked in a House like this also brings some public awareness to organizations, community members who want to access the program.

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Jackson Lafferty

Mahsi. Oral questions. Member for Tu Nehde-Wiilideh.

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Question 166-18(2): Small Community Employment Program

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Minister indicated that the program was underutilized, undersubscribed, so I'd like to ask the Minister if information on how to access small community programs and what type of projects that the Small Community Employment Program can be tied to has been distributed to the small communities. Thank you.

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Question 166-18(2): Small Community Employment Program

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

I believe our staff regional office has worked really well in the communities. One thing that I did mention here in the House earlier or last week was our employment transition office. It's the first year of the program that the pilot's taken place in and they're out in the communities talking about these kind of programs, as well as getting our residents into employment job opportunities by developing skills and getting the education that they need. The employment transition officer is just going through his first year.

We're hearing a lot of great successes on it and we're going to continue to use them to promote this program in the 26 communities throughout the Northwest Territories, and we do have five ETOs currently.

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Question 166-18(2): Small Community Employment Program

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Yellowknife Centre .

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Question 167-18(2): Economic Evaluation Of All-Season Road To Whati

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I spoke about the economic evaluation of the road to Whati and I have questions for the Minister of Transportation . Fortune Minerals wants this road built as a pre-condition of developing its mine. What kind of a commitment is the government getting from Fortune Minerals? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister of Transportation .

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Question 167-18(2): Economic Evaluation Of All-Season Road To Whati

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Government of the Northwest Territories isn’t getting any commitment from Fortune Minerals or we are not giving them any commitment for this road neither. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Given that answer, Mr. Speaker, I wonder if the Minister could tell us how the government will make a decision about whether to invest in the road to Whati? Thank you.

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Question 167-18(2): Economic Evaluation Of All-Season Road To Whati

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

The 18thLegislative Assembly mandate confirmed by all our caucus colleagues includes the investment in transportation which also includes investment in the Whati Tlicho all-season road, so that decision moving forward was made by all Members of this Assembly.

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I don’t feel like I made that decision. I haven't, until yesterday, seen the business case for this road. So I encourage the government to bring this investment forward for consideration especially given the fact that the economic benefit of the road alone without the mine is so small. Is this road in fact a subsidy to the mining industry?

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Question 167-18(2): Economic Evaluation Of All-Season Road To Whati

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

This road is not a subsidy for the mining industry. This road was brought forward by the Tlicho Government and it was pushed forward alongside with the Department of Transportation. And it's unfortunate maybe the member didn't get to read the business case before caucus decided that this was part of our 18thAssembly's in our mandate, but it is what it is. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Mahsi. Oral questions. Member for Yellowknife Centre .

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Question 167-18(2): Economic Evaluation Of All-Season Road To Whati

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker, and I will be pursuing this topic again apparently. My final question has to do with who is going to obtain the employment to build the road. The economic evaluation says that the Tlicho Region will be the contractors for this road, a road that's being built with public money, and so to what extent is the government putting in place measures that will ensure that despite the fact that people in Whati have a high unemployment rate that they will be prepared to take advantage of the road building jobs. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

Mr. Speaker, no decisions have been made on…even if we were going to be building this road, we are still waiting to hear back from the federal government on infrastructure dollars of this road and when we receive those funds from the federal government, if we receive those funds from the federal government, how we proceed will be something that the department will have to look at in how we farm out this contract.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Colleagues, I'd like to draw your attention to the public in the gallery. We have Madam Josee Clermont, who is the director general of College nordique here with us. She has been monitoring our budget debates and she'll be here during the deliberation of Education, Culture and Employment. Thanks for being here. Masi. Oral questions. Member for Yellowknife North .

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Question 168-18(2): Hydraulic Fracturing Consultations

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In my Member's statement I spoke about the importance of transparency and consulting with residents about the important issue of fracking. Ms. Speaker, my questions is for the Minister of Industry, Tourism, and Investment . Mr. Speaker, can the Minister advise what research the Department is doing to learn more about the potential impacts of fracking, in other words, have we or are we conducting any reviews or studies to consider the risks of hydraulic fracturing in the NWT? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment .

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Question 168-18(2): Hydraulic Fracturing Consultations

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Government has been conducting research in the 16thand 17thAssemblies and working very closely with the Standing Committee on Economic Development. They went and did several site visits where fracking was happening and I think we have gained a much better understanding. Responsible resource development including oil and gas development could be a major component of the Northwest Territories economy. We have substantial resources and reserves and it could be essential to creating a prosperous sustainable future for our residents.

There is no oil and gas development or exploration going on at this time. We expect that it will be at least ten years perhaps when there would be any exploration. We certainly have the time to get it right. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you to the Minister for his reply. As I noted in my Member's Statement today, although the oil and gas exploration seems to have subsided, it is certainly the time to engage in the public consultation in my view and I think in the view of my colleagues. Second question, Mr. Speaker, for the Minister: is the Minister or has the Minister been willing to seek advice from industry experts, stakeholders, NGOs, and other knowledgeable officials from other jurisdictions with experience in regulation of fracking.

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Question 168-18(2): Hydraulic Fracturing Consultations

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

In response to priorities laid out by the 18thLegislative Assembly the Government of the Northwest Territories has committed to advancing a review of the Petroleum Resources Act and the Oil and Gas Operations Act and the regulations associated with it. We recognize that people want more time to think about how our resources are best managed and developed.

This engagement also ties in with the work we are doing to develop a Northwest Territories Oil and Gas Strategy which will not only help us to unlock the petroleum potential of the Northwest Territories but to do so in a way that is environmentally responsible and benefits our communities. Through our work to develop a NWT Oil and Gas Strategy, we have been guided by engagement with communities, territorial stakeholders, leaders, subject matter experts, Aboriginal groups, industry, and the public.

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

I appreciate the Minister's reply again, but I am wondering again could the Minister explain how the department is planning to develop and encourage public input into hydraulic fracturing in the NWT? Some more specifics would be appreciated, and in particular I'd like to ask how the department plans to bring industry into this public debate?

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Question 168-18(2): Hydraulic Fracturing Consultations

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Between April and June 2015 the departments of ITI, Environment and Natural Resources and Lands conducted 14 public engagement sessions in 12 communities throughout the territory hearing input from residents, businesses and industry about the proposed regulations. Residents are also able to submit comments by mail and email. What we heard is there's a lot of education required on this matter and we will certainly engage industry and also as we go out and conduct a review of our Oil and Gas Operations Act and Petroleum Resources Act and develop our Oil and Gas Strategy.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral Questions. Member for Yellowknife North .

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And my final question to the Minister. Will the Minister after this engagement commit to developing a public report that includes the recommendations, advice, and opinions shared by experts, other jurisdictions and the public? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

In the 17thAssembly the Standing Committee on Economic Development after touring several fracking regions did release a report with quite a number or recommendations. We expect that what we would do is through the review of the Oil and Gas Operations Act and the Petroleum Resources Act we would deal with the issues and we expect the public to raise their concerns with regards to hydraulic fracking.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Kam Lake .

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Question 169-18(2): Addressing Homelessness In Yellowknife

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

Mr. Speaker, this morning I had the misfortune to encounter two severely intoxicated homeless people engaged in a vicious brawl here on the grounds of the Legislative Assembly, no less. Unfortunately, this is an all-too-common sight here on the streets of Yellowknife and Yellowknifers have had enough. I'd like to ask the Minister responsible for Homelessness , what is the plan to address the severe need to do something about the homelessness problem here in Yellowknife? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 169-18(2): Addressing Homelessness In Yellowknife

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I, as well, coming into work today encountered two individuals out back who were intoxicated; however, even though my history has been 20 years working with homeless people, I for one cannot attest that those two individuals were actually homeless people. So I'm not sure if what we were seeing was public drunkenness, loitering, or homelessness. I often think that sometimes people see them all and just automatically claim homelessness which is actually an insult to people. What is our plan for moving forward? As Members know, we did have a community forum here in Yellowknife.

Out of that forum, we developed two committees. One committee is looking at policies that impede people from accessing housing supports, government supports actually, and the other committee is led by the City of Yellowknife, and they'll be looking at all of the recommendations brought forward by that committee and bring it in timelines. Not only was that forum done. We also sent out a letter as well asking for input towards that. So more than 65 recommendations will be reviewed by the City. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

I thank the Minister for her answer. Of course as the Minister knows, the point in time survey undertaken by the City of Yellowknife showed that on a per capita basis we have a significant problem in this community as large the City of Toronto, so I think it's safe to say much of what we see is in fact part of this issue. We've heard of these two working groups and the recommendations, but we have yet to know how that's going to take shape. How will these working groups -- or recommendations, how many chronic homeless persons will be housed as a result of these recommendations?

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

The actual amount of homeless people within Yellowknife is really a hard number to pin down, as I've stated before; however, the City of Yellowknife did do a point-in-time survey last year and they figure that 139 people were actually homeless within the City. I, of course, based on personal experience, would beg to differ. How many people are we going to help within the next time? When I was elected as Regular MLA and as Minister, my commitment was to listen, and I have listened to the MLAs within the Yellowknife region.

A couple of our MLAs, Yellowknife MLAs, have been really adamant and said you need to work with Housing First, you need to partner with the City of Yellowknife. In fact, I was even accused that if I didn't do that I was not doing my job, quotations. Well, so I've listened to the Yellowknife MLAs and we are going to partner with the City of Yellowknife in their Housing First endeavour, and we are going to move ahead with the emergency shelters as well and they're semi-independent.

So with the City of Yellowknife, the partnership that the Yellowknife MLAs really advocated for, we would be housing one person for this fiscal year. With the semi-independent housing options that we've done with the emergency shelters, we will be housing 30 people within this fiscal year. So together we will be housing a minimum of 31 people this fiscal year.

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

Those are interesting numbers. Again, my question was focused on chronic homeless people, which Housing First is designed to address. How much is this plan going to cost? Let's talk about chronic homelessness, not those in need of shelter, but chronic homeless people use 51 per cent of our emergency services and are a huge cost to the taxpayer. How much are we contributing and paying to make sure this plan works and that we can get that number higher than one?

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

All of the people that I'm talking about are actually chronic homeless. So within the partnership with the City of Yellowknife, they will be housing one chronic homeless person. They have $240,000 to put to the table for this initiative this year. As well, the GNWT is putting forward $150,000 to help them with this, for a total $390,000. For the 30 rooms that we're going to do, the semi-independent with the emergency shelters which are also working on a Housing First model, in fact, actually went down south to study the model, we will spend less than three times the amount, a one-time funding of $600,000, maximum, for the 30 people.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Kam Lake .

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Can the Minister advise on a timeline for this plan to roll out and when we can expect to see the results and evaluate our success? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 169-18(2): Addressing Homelessness In Yellowknife

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

As stated, we are partnering with the City of Yellowknife on the strong advocacy of the couple of Yellowknife MLAs. Their RFP just closed today. We are not sure when it will be done, but they have promised us that their one individual will be housed within this fiscal year. As for the 30 individuals that we are working with, the construction will begin this summer, and, before the winter, that construction will be finished.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Mackenzie Delta .

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Question 170-18(2): Cultural Area At Moose Kerr School In Aklavik

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, follow-up to my Member's statement, I have a few questions for the Minister of Education . I would like to ask the Minister: will the Minister be in support of removing the two buildings for a cultural area in Aklavik? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 170-18(2): Cultural Area At Moose Kerr School In Aklavik

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The question was brought up from the Member, and we have the department looking into it. We're also waiting for the Beaufort Delta Education Council to receive a request from the school. I encourage the Member and the staff at Moose Kerr School in Aklavik to talk with the education council as well as the education authority to see about getting that process moved. We obviously want to support the cultural activities in the small communities, all communities, in the Northwest Territories, and I encourage the Member to speak with the staff to bring that request forward. We’ll take the appropriate steps when we do receive that request. Thank you.

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Question 170-18(2): Cultural Area At Moose Kerr School In Aklavik

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, many times when we speak about any buildings on the premises in the area of the school, it's a shared interest, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, these buildings are a combination of both education and public works. I'd like to ask the Minister: will the Minister work with the Minister of Public Works as they have a shared interest in these two buildings?

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Question 170-18(2): Cultural Area At Moose Kerr School In Aklavik

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

When it comes to government-owned buildings, we definitely always work with the Minister of Public Works and Services to ensure that they are demolished in a safe manner and, if there's any other environmental issues with it, that we do it the proper way. So, definitely, once we get the request in and start working on it.

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Question 170-18(2): Cultural Area At Moose Kerr School In Aklavik

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, as I mentioned, these buildings were built in the 60s and 70s, well before DEAs were established, Mr. Speaker, so I don't think it would be proper that the DEA was to have to pay for this. So will the Minister reassure me that the department will pick up the cost for the removal of these two buildings?

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Question 170-18(2): Cultural Area At Moose Kerr School In Aklavik

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

As I mentioned, Mr. Speaker, we're just waiting for the request, see what the cost will be, and we'll wait till the staff at Moose Kerr School brings it to the department, and we'll take it from there.

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Question 170-18(2): Cultural Area At Moose Kerr School In Aklavik

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Sahtu .

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Question 171-18(2): GNWT Summer Student Employment Program

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Earlier, I said I was going to address the questions around the summer student program. The summer student program, as you know, is a vital backbone to the next generation accumulating and generating their education to further seek their career of choices. As mentioned earlier, they face many challenges, and it's always comforting to know that, when they do come back home, this government is trying every which way to assist. I would like to ask the Minister responsible: What initiatives are under way for this current summer program? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 171-18(2): GNWT Summer Student Employment Program

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister of Human Resources .

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Question 171-18(2): GNWT Summer Student Employment Program

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as always, the Department of Human Resources has set up the summer student employment program whereby we ask students to provide us with their resumes. We include them in a database which is shared with departments. Ultimately, the hiring of summer students is a department responsibility, each one of the individual departments. We do collect those resumes. When the departments indicate that they have a need, we forward the resumes that meet the job criteria that they're looking for, and we actually help facilitate the hire.

But the hires are actually, ultimately, the responsibility of the individual departments. To support some of the departments, we do have the summer student related-experience program where we do provide some financial assistance to the departments to offset some of the costs of hiring summer students, and we also facilitate the related-experience program offered through health and social services. So there's a number of things we do to support departments, but, ultimately, the hiring of summer students is the responsibility of the individual departments, boards, and agencies of the GNWT. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 171-18(2): GNWT Summer Student Employment Program

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

Looking at the latest report results on the numbers that show that the program is working, and I want to commend the Minister responsible for that. As I recall, some weeks ago or at the last session here that the Minister made a point in saying that the numbers were going to be met or increased from last year. This year, we're still below. When I look at the some of the larger centres, they are quite very high compared to the smaller areas, so would the Minister improve, by working with the regional leadership and the school principals or superintendents, to develop and increase those numbers in the smaller areas?

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Question 171-18(2): GNWT Summer Student Employment Program

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Once again, the individual departments, boards, and agencies are responsible for hiring summer students. On Friday, the Premier of the Northwest Territories did send a letter to all of the ministers as well as the deputy ministers, directing them to hire more summer students. Our numbers are a little bit lower than they were last year. Currently, we have 217 summer students hired. Last year at this time, we had 273. By the end of the year, we had about 341. So the Premier has already given direction to have all the departments hire more students to try and get us closer to the number where we were last year.

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Question 171-18(2): GNWT Summer Student Employment Program

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On my last visit home, I had the opportunity of talking about this issue with Imperial Oil, a large employer in Normal Wells, and they reinstated their program. At the time here, they had five students. Looking at the numbers here, this government has five students. I think there's room for improvement. Would the Minister target for ten by the end of this session?

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Question 171-18(2): GNWT Summer Student Employment Program

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, the Member is correct. Last year by this time, we had hired four summer students in Norman Wells. This year, we've already hired five summer students in Norman Wells, so we're a little ahead of where we were, but we're on par for where we were by the end of the year. I have already directed my departments, human resources and health and social services, to hire as many students as they can. There has to be meaningful work. They can't just be hired to sit around an office and do nothing. There has to be work for them to do.

I have directed my two departments to hire the same number or more than they did last year, and I know that the Premier has already given that direction to the other Ministers, to hire as many summer students as they did last year. They will be moving forward trying to hire as many as they can.

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Question 171-18(2): GNWT Summer Student Employment Program

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Sahtu .

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Question 171-18(2): GNWT Summer Student Employment Program

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

Would the Minister agree to hiring 15?

--- Laughter.

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Question 171-18(2): GNWT Summer Student Employment Program

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, I can't speak on behalf of the other departments. The other departments have to look at their budgets. They have to look at their workload. They have already been encouraged by the Premier to hire as many students as they can, with a focus on getting in as many hired as we had last year.

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Question 171-18(2): GNWT Summer Student Employment Program

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Nunakput .

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Question 172-18(2): Tuberculosis Programs

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Herbert Nakimayak

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, earlier, I talked about TB, and my questions are for the Minister of Health and Social Services . Mr. Speaker, my first question is: currently, how many known cases of TB are there in the Northwest Territories? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister of Health and Social Services .

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Question 172-18(2): Tuberculosis Programs

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, since the beginning of 2016, we have two active cases of TB and one pending. We have two confirmed and one possible. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 172-18(2): Tuberculosis Programs

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Herbert Nakimayak

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, my second question is: what active steps is the Department of Health and Social Services taking in 2016-17 to prevent tuberculosis and reduce new infections in the NWT?

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Question 172-18(2): Tuberculosis Programs

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, the TB rates in the Northwest Territories are declining. Over the last ten years in the Northwest Territories we have seen a yearly average of about ten TB cases. In the last two years, we've actually seen lower numbers than that, four or five. Regardless, we are focused on having no TB here, in the Northwest Territories, and we've got to do that by ensuring that a hundred per cent of the people diagnosed with TB are cured.

Identifying and treating those who are infected but don't have symptoms, often referred to as latent TB, is necessary to continue to reduce rates here, in the Northwest Territories. The Department does have resources for TB surveillance and screening that are targeted at high-risk groups and includes efforts to identify and treat those with latent TB. Our community healthy living fairs are one of our tools that we're using. It's an attempt at bringing health and wellness promotion to the smallest communities. They do talk about TB during those events.

These are a valuable opportunity to do just that, to talk about TB, encourage people to get screened. If they are screened, then we can take the next steps to treat. So there are a number of different things we're doing. If somebody is diagnosed or identified with TB, we do contact screening with them. We talk, have a conversation with them, figure out who they've been in touch with, and we follow up with every one of those individuals in order to confirm and test to make sure that they don't have latent TB and they haven't been exposed.

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Question 172-18(2): Tuberculosis Programs

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Nunakput .

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Herbert Nakimayak

Nunakput

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Question 172-18(2): Tuberculosis Programs

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, if someone feels that they have come into contact with somebody with active TB, they should get in touch with their healthcare provider. Individuals should follow the instructions of their healthcare providers, which may include testing and/or the requirement for them to take medication if they're latent. The Chief Public Health Officer confirms that causes of infectious TB is one of the conditions that is tracked here, in the Northwest Territories. So we monitor everybody that has TB, and we'll take steps to follow up with everybody that has come into contact with anybody who does have active TB.

So, again, go to the doctor. Go to your health centre. Talk to the individual. Get screened. If you're prescribed medication, take it to conclusion as one of the best ways to stop the spread of TB.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Frame Lake .

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Question 173-18(2): Carbon Pricing

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. In March, our Premier took

part in the first federal-provincial territorial leader summit in almost a decade. It was largely focused on climate change. At that meeting, carbon pricing was a central issue in achieving greenhouse gas reductions. Can the Premier inform us of the position he took at the meeting on the issue of carbon pricing? Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 173-18(2): Carbon Pricing

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Honourable Premier .

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Question 173-18(2): Carbon Pricing

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. At the meeting, we raised the concerns that carbon pricing could have a negative impact on the cost of living in the Northwest Territories and other Northern territories, and I did point out to the first Minister that it was possible to reduce greenhouse gas emissions without introducing carbon pricing. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 173-18(2): Carbon Pricing

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