Debates of May 31st, 2017

This is page numbers 2459 – 2512 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was program .

Topics

Oral Questions

Members Present

Prayer

NWT Apprenticeship, Trades And Occupational Certification Strategy 2017-2022

Update On The A New Day Program

Designated Authority Council Training

Territorial Cannabis Legislation And Regulation

Nutrition North Program

Maximizing Benefits Of Infrastructure Projects

Destination Marketing

Public Housing For Seniors

High Cost Of Participation At Youth Sport Development Camps

Commercial Fisheries Revitalization

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Acknowledgments

Nutrition North Program

Commercial Fisheries Revitalization

Institution Of A Municipal Hotel Levy

Arsenic Testing Around Yellowknife

Yellowknife Schools Needs Assessment

Maximizing Benefits Of Infrastructure Projects

Eligibility For Homeownership Programs

Funding For Family Violence Shelters

Designated Authority Council Training

High Cost Of Participation At Youth Sport Development Camps

Territorial Cannabis Legislation And Regulation

Tabled Document 384-18(2): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 2, 2017-2018

Tabled Document 385-18(2): NWT Apprenticeship, Trades And Occupational Certification Strategy 2017-2022

Tabled Document 386-18(2): Annual Report 2016-2017 NWT Office Of The Regulator Of Oil And Gas Operations

Tabled Document 387-18(2): 2017 Spring Reports Of The Auditor General Of Canada To The Parliament Of Canada - Independent Audit Report: Report Of The Auditor General Of Canada To The Board Of Directors Of The Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation - Special Examination - 2017

Tabled Document 388-18(2): Timeline Of Cannabis-Related Issues In Canada From 2015 To 2017

Extended Adjournment Of The House To September 19, 2017

Bill 27:

An Act To Amend The Environmental Protection Act

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bill 16,

An Act To Amend The Education Act – Amendments To Clause 4(B) (Re: Increase To Grades 9-12 Hours Of Instruction To 1000 Hours)

Recorded Vote

Bill 16,

An Act To Amend The Education Act, Amendment To Clause 4 (Re: Mandatory Review Of Hours Of Instruction After Three Years By The Legislative Assembly)

Recorded Vote

Bill 16:

An Act To Amend The Education Act – Amendment To Clause 4 (Re: Mandatory Review Of Hours Of Instruction After Three Years By The Department Of Education, Culture And Employment)

Recorded Vote

Comprehensive Response To Committee Report 10-18(2) Within 120 Days

Recorded Vote

Report of Committee of the Whole

Bill 18:

An Act To Amend The Health And Social Services Professions Act

Recorded Vote

Orders of the Day

Members Present

Hon. Glen Abernethy , Mr. Blake , Hon. Caroline Cochrane , Ms. Green , Hon. Jackson Lafferty , Hon. Bob McLeod , Hon. Robert McLeod , Mr. McNeely , Hon. Alfred Moses , Mr. Nadli , Mr. Nakimayak , Mr. O'Reilly , Hon. Wally Schumann , Hon. Louis Sebert , Mr. Simpson , Mr. Testart , Mr. Thompson , Mr. Vanthuyne

The House met at 1:30 p.m.

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Prayer

Prayer

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Good afternoon, Members. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment .

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Minister's Statement 185-18(2): NWT Apprenticeship, Trades And Occupational Certification Strategy 2017-2022

Ministers’ Statements

Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Government of the Northwest Territories has made a commitment in its mandate to close the skills gap by strengthening the apprenticeship program. Later today, I will be tabling the Apprenticeship, Trades and Occupational Certification Strategy 2017-2022. Mr. Speaker, this five-year strategy outlines how the Government of the Northwest Territories will strengthen our apprenticeship and occupational certification program. Since the program began, there have been approximately 4,700 apprentices certified, and today there are more than 400 men and women employed in 27 occupations and 53 trades working in the Northwest Territories.

Building on the Skills 4 Success Strategy, we will increase skill levels through relevant education and training. There will be a stronger connection to the secondary education system through the Schools North Apprenticeship Program and Career and Technology Studies and to post-secondary education through programs offered by Aurora College. We will bridge education and employment gaps through targeted supports. We will be more closely connecting industry and employers with students and apprentices through the partnerships we have in education, training, and the Skills 4 Success Strategy.

We will also be implementing incentives for employers to hire apprentices, and we will be encouraging target groups, like Indigenous residents and women, to consider a career in the trades.

Our partnerships are the key to everything we are able to accomplish, so we will grow the northern workforce through partnerships and collaboration. This involves working with the Apprenticeship, Trades and Occupation Certification Board, industry, education, and business partnerships, and streamlining sponsorship programs. Additionally, we will improve decision-making with relevant labour market information.

We have the best information we have ever had, through the reports developed by the Conference Board of Canada, the Northwest Territories Labour Market Forecast and Needs Assessment, the Labour Market Information Resource and companion document, the Northwest Territories Jobs in Demand: 15-Year Forecast. This gives us comprehensive information on the jobs that will be needed in the coming years and allows us to target the education, training, and skills development programs to meet the labour market needs.

Mr. Speaker, over the next 15 years, it is forecasted that there will be more than 36,000 job openings in the Northwest Territories, and approximately 2,500 of those will be trades-related. Apprentices gain valuable training they can carry with them through their entire life, and do it through a unique form of education where they not only learn skills in an academic setting but also learn in a practical, work-based environment. The NWT Apprenticeship, Trades and Occupational Certification Strategy, aligned with the Skills 4 Success Strategy, provides a roadmap to plan our future.

The many stakeholders and partners who provided valuable input and guidance into this strategy will be key to its success. This strategy would not have been possible without their in-depth knowledge, and it will allow us to build a future for the North together, to ensure our continued prosperity and competitiveness. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 185-18(2): NWT Apprenticeship, Trades And Occupational Certification Strategy 2017-2022

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Ministers' statements. Minister of Justice .

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Minister's Statement 186-18(2): Update On The A New Day Program

Ministers’ Statements

Louis Sebert

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, our government is committed to taking action on the crisis of family violence. Over the past year, I have heard several Members of this House stress the importance of the A New Day Program for men who use violence in intimate relationships. I am pleased to report to this Legislative Assembly that the Government of the Northwest Territories has reached an agreement with the John Howard Society to continue to provide this program in Yellowknife. There will be no service interruptions, and men will have walk-in registration at the office next door to the current program space.

Qualified counsellors will meet with men individually to prepare them to join weekly groups. These groups will run continuously, so men can start as soon as they are ready. If they need to take a break for any reason, they can quickly get back into the group. These minor changes to the scheduling do not affect the curriculum. They are based on the demonstrated need for drop-in groups and on the attendance trends that we saw in the pilot. Mr. Speaker, our commitment to do no harm requires us to make sure men are in programs that meet their needs.

This is a specialized program for men with a particular risk profile. We know that men who progress farther in the A New Day Program do better. We also know from our experience during the pilot that only a small number of men were able to do this. We have an obligation to improve our programs with evidence-based decisions. We will focus our efforts on supporting the men who are ready, when they are ready, in the hopes that we can help improve the chances that they are successful.

The assessment process will be improved to include treatment plans with a counsellor who can help them access the services that are right for them. By improving the modular design of the program by adding flexibility to its delivery, we can help more men heal. This is an objective we all support.

The transition to a new provider will be smooth. The mission of the John Howard Society includes the prevention of crime and is well aligned with taking over the A New Day program. Already, they are making arrangements for counsellors to begin meeting with clients and start weekly groups. Again, all counsellors will be properly trained, possess appropriate cultural competencies, and be supported to ensure the program is delivered successfully. The Tree of Peace is still under contract until the end of June, to finish the last group and prepare men to enter the groups that will start in July. Mr.

Speaker, I would like to acknowledge and thank the community partners who helped with the initial design of the pilot project. This pilot has given us a solid foundation and valuable experience we can employ in future program delivery. I would like to thank, in particular, the current contractor for the program, the Tree of Peace Friendship Centre, for their efforts and the dedication of their staff.

The men who have found success through A New Day have learned new skills to address the root causes of their behaviour and done the hard work to heal themselves. They are better able to hold themselves and other men accountable for their violence. It is a challenging commitment, and we should commend and support anyone willing to do this work. We now face the challenge of implementing a program that improves outcomes and provides greater opportunities to offer this program throughout the Northwest Territories.

I want to thank the John Howard Society for its commitment to work with our government in the continued delivery of the program. I am encouraged by the interest of potential partners here in Yellowknife and throughout the territories to find ways to deliver programs like A New Day.

Mr. Speaker, I am also encouraged by the commitment of this Legislative Assembly to address the crisis of family violence in our territory. I look forward to working with the cooperation and support of all Members of this Legislative Assembly as we take meaningful actions to end family violence in our territory. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 186-18(2): Update On The A New Day Program

Ministers’ Statements

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Member for Kam Lake .

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Minister's Statement 186-18(2): Update On The A New Day Program

Ministers’ Statements

Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in accordance with rule 36(3), I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , that Minister's statement 186-18(2) be moved into Committee of the Whole for consideration. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. The motion is noted. To the motion.

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Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion carried.

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Minister's statement 186-18(2) has moved into Committee of the Whole for further consideration. Ministers' statements. Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs .

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Minister's Statement 187-18(2): Designated Authority Council Training

Ministers’ Statements

Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

Mr. Speaker, our government made a commitment in its mandate to work in partnership with Aboriginal governments on a training program for First Nations governments with municipal-like responsibilities. I am very proud of the work that the department of Municipal and Community Affairs has done to design and launch a training program to help improve the governance and management capacity of these governments. Mr. Speaker, in order to move this initiative forward, Municipal and Community Affairs, through the School of Community Government, has partnered with Indigenous and Northern Affairs Canada.

Through this partnership, the department secured a $180,000 federal contribution in 2016-2017 to fund the development of this training program.

The training program is made up of six governance workshops and the necessary support materials and documents. The workshops are designed to be delivered to First Nations governments with municipal-like responsibilities, including the nine designated authorities in our territory. The department is currently in discussions with Indigenous and Northern Affairs Canada in an effort to secure additional funding to support the delivery of this newly developed training to First Nations governments across the Northwest Territories.

The training workshops that have been developed cover topics including roles and responsibilities, planning, financial responsibilities, programs and services, conflict and legal responsibilities, and working with councils. Municipal and Community Affairs identified topics for these workshops based on feedback from community governments through regular surveys conducted by the School of Community Government as well as the assessment of annual responses collected through the department's accountability framework.

Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to report that a successful pilot of the workshop and materials was hosted in Aklavik in March 2017. Municipal and Community Affairs has made the First Nations governance training available in a self-directed, self-paced online format, so councils and individual community government councillors can take the training as required. Mr.

Speaker, in addition to this progressive work around the development of training modules, the department continues to collaborate with Indigenous and Northern Affairs Canada on the development of job descriptions for positions within the First Nations governments, performance appraisal resources, and council self-assessment tools. This work is part of the ongoing efforts Municipal and Community Affairs is undertaking to build capacity in all community governments across the Northwest Territories and to implement the recommendation of the Auditor General's 2016 Report. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 187-18(2): Designated Authority Council Training

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Member for Kam Lake .

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Territorial Cannabis Legislation And Regulation

Members’ Statements

Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to challenge the statement that has been made by the Minister of Justice that the cannabis legislation as proposed by Ottawa has caught this government by surprise and has not allowed them to do the important work of consulting with our people and developing a legislative framework. I am going to share a timeline with this House. On September 30, 2015, while campaigning during the 2015 federal election before the Liberal party came to power, Justin Trudeau said that his party was committed to legalizing and regulating marijuana.

He said controlling it would protect our kids and remove criminal elements from it, and he added at the time the Liberal party would "get started on that right away."

On April 20, 2016, Health Minister Jane Philpott announced the Liberal government will introduce legislation to legalize marijuana in the spring of 2017. Meanwhile, in Toronto, thousands attended the city's 4/20 pot rally at Yonge and Dundas Square. As marijuana dispensaries started popping up in anticipation of the legislation, a public opinion poll at this time showed 68 per cent of Canadians felt pot should be legal in Canada. On April 24, 2016, a spike in marijuana dispensaries in parts of Canada promoted calls for government to regulate the businesses.

On May 26, 2016, Toronto Police conducted "Project Claudia," a large coordinated series of raids on 39 marijuana dispensaries. Officers had 90 people arrested and 257 charges were laid. On June 13, 2016, Attorney General Jody Wilson-Raybould announced the federal government would not decriminalize marijuana before legalizing it. She also said the Liberals would not support an opposition motion urging the government to immediately decriminalize simple pot possession.

On June 23, 2016, Toronto Police Chief Mark Saunders announced his officers raided several marijuana dispensaries in the city, almost a month after Project Claudia. He said the businesses were operating illegally.

Clearly, Mr. Speaker, there is a complete timeline at this point where we have a commitment from the federal government to issue legislation. I challenge the Minister that we haven't had time to properly consider this, nor that there has been discussion on the options available. Northerners need to know what the future is for legal cannabis in the Northwest Territories, so they are not unfairly taken advantage of by criminal penalties and so they can maintain their own autonomy around decisions that relate to their communities.

Further, they can access new opportunities and not let them get gobbled up by southern markets. Mr. Speaker, this needs to happen now, and I hope the Minister takes it seriously. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Territorial Cannabis Legislation And Regulation

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member for Nahendeh .

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Nutrition North Program

Members’ Statements

Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yesterday I spoke about Nutrition North. This will be my second part of speaking on this today. There is a continuous issue of limited access to proper nutrition in my riding. In my riding, there are two other communities, Jean Marie and Wrigley, that do not have stores. Mr. Speaker, as stated previously in this House, community members must rely on retailers from surrounding areas to get their supplies.

Mr. Speaker, the commute to the nearest retailers causes an additional cost for members of those communities, and it is not always possible due to transportation limitations such as river crossings. There are also members that do not have access to personal transportation. Mr. Speaker, the only way some individuals get their food and supplies is by relying on somebody who is going to Fort Simpson or Hay River. If that fails, there are no alternative means of getting the supplies and food they require.

This not does not only put them at the disadvantage of obtaining their needs, but it also inhibits their independence. It should not be this difficult for any individual, let alone entire communities, to obtain their basic needs. A program for delivering food sources to these communities is urgently needed. Mr. Speaker, there is also a number of community members in my riding that obtain nutritional source traditionally. These members of the community tend to share their acquired nutritional resources with members in need. Some hunters are able to secure enough meat for their families for an entire year.

Mr. Speaker, there are also a number of small farms in my riding. One successful vegetable farm is in Fort Simpson. This farm was highly successful in root vegetables such as carrots, turnips, and potatoes, over 4,000 pounds. Unfortunately, they cannot access funds through the Nutrition North Program, which places a barrier to them and residents in my riding to get some subsidy for this food. Mr. Speaker, it would be great if this government could work with the federal government or just take over this program to build an NWT nutrition program that will help smaller and isolated communities. Later, I'll have questions for the Premier on this topic. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Nutrition North Program

Members’ Statements

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member for Frame Lake .

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Members’ Statements

Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

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Members’ Statements

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member for Sahtu .

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Maximizing Benefits Of Infrastructure Projects

Members’ Statements

Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today, my Member's statement is on the projects of Stanton Hospital and Norman Wells Health Centre. The Government of the Northwest Territories has a procurement process for capital projects, and these two particular projects are well under way, with a union participating on one job site. Training, employment, business opportunities, and supply are fundamental principles and elements of the procurement process. Maximizing and capitalization can be measured in a number of ways.

As mentioned by the honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment earlier, there have been approximately 4,700 apprentices certified, and today there are more than 400 men and women employed in 27 occupations. Later, I will have questions on that workforce and how many are going to be produced with the journeyman certification in my question and answer period. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Maximizing Benefits Of Infrastructure Projects

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member for Yellowknife North .

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Destination Marketing

Members’ Statements

Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Mr. Speaker, we have all heard about the Northern Frontier Visitors' Centre and its unfortunate necessary closure for reasons of building safety. The assignment of space at the Prince of Wales Northern Heritage Centre will be an effective fix, albeit temporary, for providing crucial information to visitors to Yellowknife. The attention drawn by the closure of the visitors' centre shows how important tourism has become in the capital and across the territory. Between the territorial government and the city, the visitors' centre received almost $350,000 in funding each year from various pots.

With tourism bringing in $90 million in direct spending to Yellowknife alone, we realize that is money well invested. With support from CanNor, the City of Yellowknife has recently implemented its Destination Marketing Strategy that will focus resources and attention on aggressively marketing the capital city as a tourist destination.

Destination marketing will be able to coordinate all aspects of marketing the city and its facilities and services, drawing on all the city's resources and assets to attract visitors. Estimates are that increasing tourist traffic by just 10 per cent could mean as much as $10 million to the city. The extra funding the city received for destination marketing won't last forever, Mr. Speaker. The City of Yellowknife has taken the tourism ball and is running with it, and this government should be working in support of our communities. How can we do that?

Yellowknife and all NWT municipalities legislated under the CTV Act have asked the government to bring forward enabling legislation to allow them to institute a hotel levy. This will provide eligible municipalities with resources to grow and develop their local tourism economies as they see fit.

Here in the capital, it could help create infrastructure, potentially a project like a conference centre, which could help build momentum towards a more robust, active, healthy downtown core. This legislation is supported by the city, the NWT Association of Communities, the local hotel association, and NWT Tourism. Mr. Speaker, our communities want to develop their own tourism potential. Tourism has become an important new part of a broader, diversified NWT economy. Yellowknife's window for destination marketing is now open, but it won't last forever.

We should be working in support of our communities, making it possible for them to leverage resources to invest in their own economic futures. Mr. Speaker, let's enable our capital city to do just that. Later, I will have questions for the appropriate Minister. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Destination Marketing

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member for Yellowknife Centre .

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Public Housing For Seniors

Members’ Statements

Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I want to commend the Minister responsible for the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation and her staff for their recent survey of residents on housing issues. The response rate of 10 per cent of households across the NWT is remarkable. It also speaks to the importance of finding solutions to chronic housing problems. I look forward to hearing the plan for addressing the housing needs respondents identified in the coming sitting.

Mr. Speaker, I'm going to reflect on the need for social housing in Yellowknife. Here is a startling fact highlighted in the Voices on Housing report. While the population of the NWT has increased by just 1 per cent since 2004, there has been a 53 per cent increase in the population of people aged 60 years or older in the same period of time. It is a fact that government is unable to meet their housing needs. There are 344 public housing units in Yellowknife, and seniors occupy about a quarter of them. As well, the Housing Corporation supports non-profits that provide an additional 94 units.

All told, there is currently not enough housing for about 10 per cent of Yellowknife's population age 60-plus. We know that because there are dozens of seniors on the public housing wait list. The wait to get into an independent living unit at Avens is six years. The public housing needs of single-parent families and single people who aren't seniors are even greater.

Mr. Speaker, the people who responded to the survey had some good ideas for creating more affordable housing in Yellowknife. There is significant interest in tiny houses and creating additional housing co-operatives like Borealis and Inukshuk, but people recognize that the availability of affordable land is an issue within the city. The Housing Corporation is interested in moving its public housing clients through the housing continuum, from rental to home ownership, to free up units, but the fact is only 20 families have opted for the corporation's home ownership plan in Yellowknife in the last 10 years.

Many people live paycheque to paycheque, putting in doubt affordability and all the additional costs that come with home ownership.

The bottom line here is that both levels of government need to invest in building additional energy-efficient housing to meet the needs of all residents of all ages. The GNWT has not made that commitment. The federal government has promised a paltry $3.6 million a year over the next 10 years. The reality is that we have a long, long way to go. I will have questions for the Minister.

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Public Housing For Seniors

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Jackson Lafferty

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High Cost Of Participation At Youth Sport Development Camps

Members’ Statements

Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I would like to talk about our athletes who are selected to participate at the Canada Summer and Winter Games, National Aboriginal Indigenous Games, and National Aboriginal Hockey Championships. We are fortunate to have our athletes from the NWT participate at this level. As you know, Mr. Speaker, some of our very own have gone on to higher levels of competition, and we are very proud that we have supported them to get to the level that they are at. These Games teach our athletes fair play, responsibility, respect, just to name a few.

Mr. Speaker, potential athletes coming from the Mackenzie Delta who want to try out for any sport must make their way to a sport development camp, which is usually in Yellowknife. This means that our athletes have to drive or fly from either Aklavik, Tsiigehtchic, or Fort McPherson to Inuvik, continue flights on to Yellowknife, look for and pay for accommodation, meals, taxis, and, in most cases, registration. I speak for all athletes who have considered participating in any sporting activities, where there are no regional camps, where individuals have to make their own way to Yellowknife to take

part in one of the many sport development camps. This, Mr. Speaker, is in the early stages, when teams are not yet selected, adding to the empty pockets of parents.

Mr. Speaker, we have excellent role models, high performance athletes in our regions, who fail to participate because of the out-of-pocket expenses that the parents have to front. Fundraising efforts are not that great in an economy with little or no jobs, and the cost of living is very high. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement. Thank you.

---Unanimous consent granted

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this concern has come to my office time and time again: parents looking for support in getting their children to Yellowknife to participate in sporting camps to be considered for Team NWT. My concern, Mr. Speaker, is that far too many times, these camps are held here in Yellowknife, where the athletes from the Mackenzie Delta, Nunakput, and Inuvik, and possibly Sahtu ridings, just can't afford the travel and extra costs associated with sport development camps.

What I would suggest is to have these camps in Inuvik, have your athletes from Yellowknife, Hay River, and Fort Smith regions come to Inuvik and pay the extra costs from their pockets and look for accommodations, etc. I am not talking about regional camps. I am talking about the sport development camps where the teams are actually chosen. I am sure, Mr. Speaker, you will see the high turnout with athletes from the Delta wanting to participate with little to no cost to the parents. Mr.

Speaker, this could be taken into consideration, not so much with the Arctic Winter Games, because this is a success with funding provided right from the community level, to the territorials and to the games themselves, but more so with the summer and winter games, NAIG and NAHC. I would like to state once again, for future events coming such as Canada Winter Games, NAHC, and maybe there are other team NWT-oriented events that I did not mention, maybe curling, cross country skiing, etc.

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Member for Mackenzie Delta , I believe the Minister is giving a clear message. It has been over almost three minutes now, almost four minutes. I believe your statement is concluded. Masi. Members' statements. Member for Hay River North .

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Commercial Fisheries Revitalization

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R.J. Simpson

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I haven't had a chance to get outside much in the past couple of weeks, but I am told that summer is finally here. That means that the commercial fishermen are heading back out on Great Slave Lake. It is only fitting that I make my sessional statement on the fishery. Mr. Speaker, earlier this month, the Auditor General of Canada, or AG, released his report on the Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation. For those who don't know, all fish caught in the NWT that are sold across the border must be sold to Freshwater, which is a federal Crown corporation. It has a legislative monopoly on our export fish market.

When the corporation was established nearly 50 years ago, it was done so with the best of intentions. However, this month's Auditor General report confirmed what has been common knowledge in Hay River for decades: that Freshwater is not serving the best interests of our fisherman. The AG found many weaknesses, significant deficiencies, and outright failures in the oversight, management, and operation of the corporation. Given some of the things I have heard, that is putting it lightly. Further, the report found that the corporation has no long-term strategic plan, and has exposed itself to considerable risks in a complex economic environment.

These conclusions are no surprise to anyone familiar with the fishing industry. The only surprise is that things have actually gotten worse since the AG released a similar report in 2010. The core purpose of Freshwater, according to its vision statement, is to maximize returns for fishers. However, it is the fishermen who have borne the fiscal costs of Freshwater's ineptitude. Mr. Speaker, if you would like to see a physical manifestation of Freshwater's failings, look at the fish plant they own in Hay River. It was once a brand-new building, stocked full of top-of-the-line equipment capable of processing fish.

Now the building is an eyesore, gutted of its ability to process fish, and demoted through a receiving plant. Fish are now trucked from Hay River to Winnipeg to be processed.

Unsurprisingly, Manitoba is set to withdraw from the corporation this year, meaning only NWT fishers will be obliged to sell their fish to Freshwater. I am not convinced the corporation will last much beyond that. If it doesn't last, the situation for our fishermen will go from bad to worse. We are hitching our wagon to a dying horse, Mr. Speaker, and we need to do something about it quickly, or we will be failing our fishermen the same way Freshwater has been failing them for the past 50 years. I will have questions about what we are doing to strengthen our commercial fishing industry and finally allow our fisherman to be paid fairly for their work. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to recognize Miss Nicole Enge. Nicole just finished her second year of political science at the University of Toronto, and she has been hired for the summer as one of our special project coordinators for the executive council offices here in the Legislative Assembly. Welcome.

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Masi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Yellowknife Centre .

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to recognize Lydia Bardak, who is an advocate for people who live in need, and who is my constituent, and Nalini Naidoo, the economic development director for the city, who is sitting there, as well. She is also my constituent. Thank you.

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. We are proud to acknowledge two Pages from the Chief T'Selehye School in Fort Good Hope: Miss Patricia Mahamadiva and Adriana Laboucan, along with their chaperone, Melinda Laboucan. Good job in keeping us in order, and good job to Melinda for keeping the Pages in order, and sightseeing in this big city. I would also like to point out that Adriana Laboucan is one of the Sahtu Regional Heritage Fair winners. Her project was based on a pow wow. Congratulations. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to recognize a member from a constituency from Range Lake, also the chair of the Montessori school, Mr. David Wasylciw. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise again to recognize Mr. Fraser Oliver, Kam Lake constituent and president of the NWT Teachers' Association. I know he has been here every day so far this sitting, and eagerly awaiting the debate on Bill 16 , which is today. I am sure he will be very pleased with our proceedings. Thank you.

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Masi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Yellowknife North .

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wanted to take this opportunity to recognize the director of economic development and communications for the City of Yellowknife, Nalini Naidoo. I also want to take this time to recognize the Pages from my riding: Riley Menard, Rae Panayi, and Mezan Daher, all from Sir John, and all residents of the Yellowknife North riding. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. If we are missing anyone in the gallery, welcome to our proceedings. It is always great to have an audience. Masi. Item 6, acknowledgements. Member for Yellowknife Centre .

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Acknowledgements

Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise to salute my constituent Lynda Koe for receiving the Order of the NWT yesterday. For almost 30 years, Ms. Koe has used her nursing skills to increase the quality of life for residents of Avens to meet the highest level of compassion, dignity, and respect. Her professionalism earned her accreditation from the Accreditation Council of Canada. Ms. Koe has played a key role in implementing specialized care in the dementia facility. She is approachable and respected by all as an advocate for residents' social and medical needs. Please join me in congratulating her. Mahsi.

---Applause

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

Mahsi Mr. Speaker. Today, I pay tribute to Ms. Cece Hodgson-McCauley for her 95th birthday coming this Monday, June 5, 2017. Cece was born on June 5, 1922, on the Dease Arm on the famous Great Bear Lake. She is a residential school survivor, and began as the first founding chief of the Inuvik Dene Band. She also received the 2016 Indspire Award for Politics. Mr. Speaker, today Cece is a well-known columnist for NewsNorth paper, and an advocate for the Mackenzie Valley Highway. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Masi. Acknowledgements. Item 7, oral questions. Member for Nahendeh .

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Question 789-18(2): Nutrition North Program

Oral Questions

Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, for the past few days, I've used my Member's statements to talk about Nutrition North. As stated in my statements, this program is not working for my riding. To add to this, we have seen numerous reports and articles about the challenges this program faces across the North. Mr. Speaker, can the Premier inform this house which department is working with the federal government to make this program work better for small and isolated communities in the North? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. The Honourable Premier .

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Question 789-18(2): Nutrition North Program

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, the department of Executive and Indigenous Affairs has been monitoring what the federal government has been doing with Nutrition North, and Health and Social Services provides nutritional education information on behalf of the federal government to the tune of about $375,000 a year. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

I thank the Premier for his answer. Mr. Speaker, in previous sittings, we spoke about the potential of going to the federal government, and asking if we could take over this program. Mr. Speaker, can the Minister advise this House if he has had the opportunity to discuss this idea with the Minister or the Prime Minister in regards to Nutrition North?

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Question 789-18(2): Nutrition North Program

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

I have had the opportunity to discuss Nutrition North with Minister Bennett on several occasions. We offered to take over the program if the accompanying money would be transferred with it. The federal government has been non-committal. They appear to prefer to deliver it themselves. They have had a number of reviews, and they even have their own advisory board, so it appears they will be in business for a while.

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

I thank the Premier for his answer. It is unfortunate the federal government is going to look after this program because it is hurting a number of northern communities, especially in my riding. Mr. Speaker, will the Premier work with his Ministers to come up with a plan that we can take to the federal government to address issues of communities who don't have stores or have challenges such as transportation and freight issues, or do not have stores at all if the federal government allows them to?

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Question 789-18(2): Nutrition North Program

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

The Nutrition North appears to have one program which is a retailer food subsidy, where they provide subsidies to retailers that provide nutritious foods to the communities. Having said that, cost of living, food security, are all issues that are high-priority for our government, and we are always looking for ways to improve in those areas to reduce the cost of living, and also to make more nutritious foods available to the communities even if they are not included on the Nutrition North list of communities. Right now, there are now 15 Northwest Territories communities that are now included.

We are prepared to work together to find a way to get the federal government to engage and invest, we would be pleased to do that as well.

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Masi. Oral questions. Member for Nahendeh .

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I thank the Premier for hearing that. My big thing is, my concern, I have two communities who do not have stores. They do not have access to food, so that is probably a big challenge for them. In regards to the residents that have commercial gardens, will the Premier work with the Minister of ITI to come up with a plan so that food can be subsidized so that they can sell their product to the residents of the NWT on a level playing field? In other words, look at the opportunity for Nutrition North to subsidize some of our local farmers. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 789-18(2): Nutrition North Program

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The federal government as I have said, only provides a retailers' food subsidy. Right now, they are not providing subsidies for other sources of food production. We did, as part of signing on to the Canadian Free Trade Agreement, we will be meeting, and are meeting with Agriculture Canada to find ways to develop agriculture in the Northwest Territories.

Those that are interested in dairy, chicken, turkey, we will have to find other sources because of the fact that that is a closed door other than existing farmers, but we will be negotiating with Agriculture Canada to look at other forms of agriculture. Ours, as a government, we have developed a number of strategies to help improve in the area of food security. We have an agricultural strategy. We have a fishery strategy. We have a small scale garden program where we now have, all communities of the North have small scale community gardens.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Hay River North .

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Question 790-18(2): Commercial Fisheries Revitalization

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R.J. Simpson

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As we all know, this government recently released its Commercial Fisheries Revitalization Strategy. The execution of this plan is in its early stages. Part of the problem that we are facing is that the government does not have authority over the fishery, so we must wait on DFO to make the regulatory changes and the infrastructure investments that are needed to move things forward.

So I have a question for the Minister of Infrastructure : since this is a problem that we have to deal directly with Ottawa, how often are you meeting with your federal counterpart, the Minister of DFO, and specifically discussing issues related to these infrastructure investments and regulatory changes that are needed to get this fishery going? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Since I obtained the portfolio, I have met with the Minister of DFO twice; once in November of 2016 and once in March of 2017 of this year. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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R.J. Simpson

Hay River North

I gave the Minister an opportunity to do that because I know he has been meeting with the Minister, and I know he has been pushing this in Ottawa, and I know he is working hard for Hay River to get this fishing strategy going. When it comes to talks with Freshwater, as you know in my statement, I outlined some of the problems with Freshwater. Where are we at the talks with Freshwater to get this fish plant either rebuilt, refurbished, or build one of our own?

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

As all Members are aware, in the Member's statement today that Freshwater Marketing Corp., its future is very uncertain, as the last person standing technically is the Northwest Territories. We are waiting for a ruling out of Manitoba, as it sounds like they are pulling out of the Freshwater Marketing Corporation, so that is 80 per cent of their market gone. How do we move this forward? We have been working with Freshwater to this point, and it has been very challenging, and with the situation that has arisen around the Manitoba thing, it has put a lot of things into question.

The last time that I met with the Minister of DFO, we had an opportunity to talk about this stuff. We are talking about a range of opportunities that have been presented to us now with the possibility of Manitoba pulling out, and we are in discussions directly with the DFO office on this matter.

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R.J. Simpson

Hay River North

As we can tell from the Minister's answer, it is tough to deal with Freshwater. I mean, it is an organization in disarray. We need this fish plant. At what point is this government prepared to pull away from Freshwater and just build our own fish plant?

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

I am not sure if this is the time to be walking away from the table, just yet, because this is going to take a lot of resources to get this figured out and how to build something and get the processes and money in place to be able to build something like this. The challenge, like I say, is particularly around the resources, and I think we need to be engaged, which we are now, directly with the Minister's office on how we are going to move forward. Hopefully, we are going to be able to come to some solution between us and the federal government in the near future.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Hay River North .

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Question 790-18(2): Commercial Fisheries Revitalization

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R.J. Simpson

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Processing fish is one part of the equation. The other

part is marketing this fish ourselves or having the fishermen market it themselves, and part of the revitalization strategy is to build those markets, whether they be in the territory, they be in Alberta, or overseas. What are we doing, what is the government doing, to create those markets now? The plan calls for getting out of Freshwater. That is what the plan calls for. We need those markets, so where are we? Do we have someone hired? Do we have markets developed in the South? Can I get an update on that? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As everyone knows, the quota system being signed onto Freshwater Fish, 100 per cent of our fish goes to the Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation. We believed, as we went into revitalizing the fishing strategy, that there are market opportunities for us outside of Freshwater. Being that we are still signatory to the Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation, we are still obliged to sell our fish to the Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation.

We are looking at expanding our opportunities outside of that, but, before we can do that, as I said, we have got to figure out our relationship with the Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation, and now we are dealing directly with the Minister of DFO on this situation. Hopefully, we can figure this out sooner rather than later and get on with the revitalization of the Great Slave fishery.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 791-18(2): Institution Of A Municipal Hotel Levy

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I raised some points earlier about enabling the City of Yellowknife to possibly start a hotel levy. That would fall under the department of Municipal and Community Affairs, so my questions are for the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs today. I just want to start, first of all, asking the Minister: there have been some recent changes as it relates to it. The Minister, herself, is relatively new to this portfolio.

There is a new deputy minister, and there is a new senior administrator officer at the city, so I would just simply like to ask the Minister how the relationship between MACA and the City of Yellowknife is going so far, and are they working effectively together? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, I am more than proud to report that the relationship between the City of Yellowknife and Municipal and Community Affairs is positive. Yes, it is true that we have a new deputy minister, but her experience has been many, many years working with community governments. She is not new to Municipal and Community Affairs nor new to city governments, so she has a solid relationship with the City of Yellowknife. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

That is good news and welcome news. I can attest to what the Minister described, as a former Yellowknife City Councillor. The new deputy minister was an assistant deputy minister at the time, and we have always had a positive relationship with her at the City of Yellowknife. I spoke earlier about the city's intention. They want to introduce a hotel levy, and I am wondering if the Minister can describe the most recent analysis of that question of a hotel levy and what the department has learned.

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

The department of Municipal and Community Affairs has done a cross-jurisdictional analysis of hotel levies to see within other jurisdictions how they are presented, how they are run, what the costs look like, et cetera, so we have done that research. We are also working with the City of Yellowknife very closely. We have had over six meetings with them since October, developing a discussion paper that we will be bringing forward to other stakeholders.

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you to the Minister for her reply and updating us on what we will term the discussion paper. I guess, if the discussion paper is sort of a next step towards this possible opportunity of a hotel levy, can the Minister describe to us maybe then what the next steps are and what the

schedule might be towards actually developing potential legislation and when the municipalities might be in a better position to actually start a hotel levy?

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

Yes, we are meeting with the six municipalities during the summer, when session is over, to discuss the proposed changes that we are looking at. We have also realized that it is not only the municipalities that will be affected by this; it is also hotel operators and lodging operators that might be affected by it, as well. So, in trying to be as transparent and inclusive as possible, Municipal and Community Affairs is also reaching out to those operators to get their feedback on the proposed amendments.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. These are all positive replies, and I am glad that the Minister is sharing them with us. I think this is good information that the public needs to hear. Then, just lastly and very simply, I would like to ask the Minister if there are some steps that she can let us know that the department is taking to support municipalities in marketing themselves as tourist destinations, aside from the potential hotel levy. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Diversifying our economy was one of the priorities identified within this Legislative Assembly, and so it is important that municipalities also look at diversifying their economies, as well. Tourism is a great opportunity within the Northwest Territories, as proven by our capital city and the City of Yellowknife, so I would recommend that all municipalities, towns, et cetera, contact the department of Industry, Tourism and Investment to find out what programs and services they have that they can actually access to support tourism within their municipalities.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 792-18(2): Arsenic Testing Around Yellowknife

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Merci, Monsieur le President. Yesterday, the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources made a statement about arsenic monitoring in the Yellowknife area and how our government would improve coordination of its responses. This is good news and is a helpful response to concerns I raised earlier in this sitting. While it is good to hear that ENR staff have begun monitoring Kam Lake and Grace Lake, look around. Yellowknife is surrounded by small lakes. What plans does his department have for a systematic approach to sampling most if not all the lakes around Yellowknife, and would this include speciation to detect more harmful forms of arsenic? Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I said the other day, we have been conducting some sampling in Great Slave and the Yellowknife River, and we have also sampled some of the lakes. I mentioned Kam Lake, Grace Lake. We plan on sampling them again this summer. ENR, what we are doing is we are compiling some water quality information from water bodies in the Yellowknife area because there are a number of other governments, industry, and academics who have collected water samples, so what we are doing is we are working with them to compile all that information.

If there are some lakes there that need to be sampled, then we can look at that, but I think step number one is to see what information we have from all the lakes and all the studies that have been going around the capital, and put that information together, and then decide on our next steps from there. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Thank you to the Minister for that response. I agree that a good first step is to compile what is out there. I am hoping that, in compiling that, we also look at speciation or the different forms of arsenic. Some are toxic and some are far less toxic. Sampling water in lakes is a good start, but we also need to think about sampling of sediments, soils, and fish. Does the Minister have any plans for a systematic sampling of sediments, soils, and fish around Yellowknife for arsenic in its various forms?

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

The quick answer is "yes," and I will explain. We are collaborating with the University of Alberta to study metals in large-bodied fish, including arsenic, from several high use and potentially impacted lakes in and around the Yellowknife area. We have taken some sampling in March of 2016 on Kam, Grace, Long, and Upper Martin Lakes, and it will occur during 2017 at Walsh and Banting Lakes. Existing sediment, soil, and fish data is also being compiled in the Yellowknife area. There are many entities, as the Member mentioned.

Like the other governments, industries, and academics who have collected this type of information, again, we will work with those entities to compile a list of all the lakes that have been studied. If there are some that still need to be looked at, we can look at undertaking that.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Thank you again to the Minister. It sounds like all of this information is going to get pulled together, and that is a good start. Of course, we have to also think about how this information is going to be shared with the public. Will the results on any health implications be simply posted on a website somewhere? What is the plan to make this information available to the public?

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

As our information sharing protocol has improved, the reports and all information collected by ENR, we will share them with Health and Social Services after some analysis and review. Data collected by ENR will be posted on our website, and as mentioned, reports will be prepared and made public, as well.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Merci, Monsieur le President. Thank you again to the Minister. As people know, I attended the Giant Mine Oversight Board's public meeting on May 16th. One of the concerns raised was how information on water and soil arsenic contamination and any health-related or exposure warnings can be shared with tourists and visitors. We could do this through the Northern Frontier Visitors Centre, oops, we don't have that anymore. How does the Minister intend to share arsenic contamination information with tourists and visitors? Merci, Mr. Speaker.

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, our information reports will be publicly available on our website. Any updates to the precautionary public health advisory will be made publicly by Health and Social Services. The office of the Chief Public Health Officer is examining the recent data for Kam and Grace Lakes, and will be updating the map to reflect more recent data on these lakes. The office of the Chief Public Health Officer is able to provide advice to agencies and community governments on possible messaging for residents and visitors.

For example, ITI worked with the office of the Chief Public Health Officer to develop signs for trail visitors along the Prospector Trail, which is a trail within the territorial park that is adjacent to Giant Mine. We are still continuing to have discussions with Canada regarding paths forward for an approach to legacy arsenic in the Yellowknife area, and information sharing with residents and visitors will be an element of these discussions.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 793-18(2): Yellowknife Schools Needs Assessment

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

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Jackson Lafferty

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, currently we have department staff that are working with the education authorities and the school staff to look at utilization rates, and to ensure that spaces that were developed when the school was made were actually being used for instructional time, and what other spaces aren't for instructional time. We are going through that review right now with schools in Yellowknife, currently. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

I am glad that the Minister is looking into this, but this isn't a new issue. I would like the Minister to commit to a timeline if he can, today, on when we are going to have a sense of when this needs assessment work has been completed.

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Currently there isn't a timeline set in place. Obviously, we have to make sure that we do have appropriate time to go through the schools, with the staff, and have that idea of which classrooms are used for instructional hours and other classrooms that might be used for storage or other areas of use that were put forth by the school and together, collectively, decide which classrooms should be used for instructional classrooms, and identify that utilization rate. I don't have a timeline, but I will make sure the department comes back with something. I will share that with the Member.

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

It is difficult to get a clear answer on timelines from this government. Alas, this, with the addition of junior kindergarten, we have 95 per cent capacity reached at St. Joseph School. What does the Minister propose to do to assist the Yellowknife Catholic School Board to manage this capacity crunch?

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

When we look at the utilization rates, we look at utilization rates as they pertain to communities, so the utilization rate here in Yellowknife isn't as high as it is by the school. Obviously, we look at school sharing. We are currently in discussions with YCS now, how we deal with that utilization rate and the high numbers that they are getting. We have schools across NWT that also are at certain levels that we need to have those discussions. However, the utilization rates haven't reached that peak within the Yellowknife schools, but we are in discussions with YCS on how we come up with solutions for that.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I had mentioned, we are in those discussions with YCS on how we deal with the situation. At those rates, we can't commit at that time. Yellowknife, as a whole, has some schools that have high utilization rates, but we also have schools that aren't meeting some of those high rates. We are trying to find a solution here in Yellowknife to accommodate all the students as well as staff.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 794-18(2): Maximizing Benefits Of Infrastructure Projects

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I apologize for fumbling on the last sentence of my statement earlier, but my questions today are to the Minister of Infrastructure . I understand the Stanton renewal project is one of the largest P3 projects undertaken by the GNWT. Can the Minister of Infrastructure tell me how much the project costs are being spent in the North, and if any northern companies are involved? Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The successful proponent of this project is committed to make every effort to involve local and northern labour and goods and services in this project, and I am glad to update the House here today that within the project agreement $70 million has been identified for local and northern businesses.

The numbers that I have got to date, to the end of May of this year, we have seen over $24 million spent on local and northern companies, and at this time, 11 northern companies are fully engaged in major projects on the Stanton project to date, with more tenders yet to be coming out to finish up the building as it moves along. The range of work that has been done so far by local and northern businesses is drilling, blasting, water and sewer work, concrete production, waterproofing, elevator services, and such. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

It is good to see that the project is contributing to economic growth of our North. I have some questions on the labour side, the trades progression capitalization on experience to further the apprentice as mentioned by the honourable Minister for ECE earlier. We have 400 tradespeople that are currently working, and I imagine some of them are on this project. Can the Minister elaborate a little bit more on the training plan included in this project and how many trades we will see upon completion?

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

We are working with a joint venture to get these exact figures for the Members of the House of how many northern workers, but as work progresses from day to day, labour amounts change. They fluctuate up and down on who is on site, but from everything that has been presented to me, there are roughly between 60 and 130 people that are working on site, given the scope of work that is going on, but there are also a number of people who work off-site, potentially up to 70 people around administration, designers, engineers, quality assurance, those sorts of things, Mr. Speaker.

As far as apprenticeships go, we understand that there are approximately 15 apprentices that are working on site right now on this present project. We are going to work along with ECE and NAPEG to get the full scope of that, so I can have those numbers readily available as well.

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Question 794-18(2): Maximizing Benefits Of Infrastructure Projects

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

I am glad to hear that number, 15, and if we can encourage those individuals to complete their apprentice and capitalize on their hours needed to complete their journeyman certification, those would be good targets for the project. My next question is: where is the project time, and where is the

schedule now?

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

In discussions with the joint venture on Stanton, the project is on

schedule as projected. We expect to service commencement of the facility on November 30, 2018, and we work very closely with them on tracking this issue very closely going month to month with this project moving forward. We believe the project is about approximately 30 per cent complete right now.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Sahtu .

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Seeing that we are at the benchmark of 30 per cent completion here, I will have further questions down the road when we are at 60 per cent. Mahsi.

---Laughter

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Question 794-18(2): Maximizing Benefits Of Infrastructure Projects

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Jackson Lafferty

More of a comment. Oral questions. Member for Yellowknife Centre .

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Question 795-18(2): Eligibility For Homeownership Programs

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my questions are for the NWT Housing Corporation. In the past, the Minister has stressed the belief that home ownership is the way for people to get housed without relying on public housing and to free up units for those who need them. Yet, with only 20 Yellowknife families taking up the offer of assisted home ownership in the last 10 years, this faith seems to be a little misplaced. Will the Minister now re-examine the home ownership program and find out how to increase the uptake? Mahsi.

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Question 795-18(2): Eligibility For Homeownership Programs

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation.

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Question 795-18(2): Eligibility For Homeownership Programs

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When I speak broadly that home ownership, in my belief, is a way for people to take more pride in their belongings and it is a goal that most people achieve towards from when we leave our parents' house, I seriously believe that. However, I also recognize that one size does not fit all, and so we have to look at each community separately. Within the smaller communities, it may be a better possibility. Within the capital city, the majority of our public housing units are actually in multi-dwelling buildings where home ownership might not be as feasible.

That is why I have committed to looking at a rent subsidy program, which might work better for people within market communities, certainly within our capital city. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you to the Minister. In her general statements, the Minister has asserted that, relying on the shift to home ownership, the Housing Corporation is not adding to its housing stock. So there is still a problem of availability of housing in Yellowknife. There is not enough in any form. Will the Minister, as a result of her survey, consider taking the cap off of the housing inventory and try to get more resources to build additional homes or apartments?

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Question 795-18(2): Eligibility For Homeownership Programs

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

We are working diligently with the federal government as well, and CMHC has made an agreement to put a hold on the declining funding just for this year, but they have still stated that in 2038, those operating and maintenance monies will be gone. With that in effect, we have to look at ways that we can actually support our residents in the Northwest Territories in meeting their housing needs.

At this point, I am not looking at increasing our public housing units, but I do believe that the Rent Supplement Program for the City of Yellowknife would address that need. For example, if I build one house in Yellowknife and it costs me $500,000; if I give people $500 a month, $6,000 a year, towards a rent supplement program, I can support hundreds of families versus one family in the same amount of money. So those are the areas that we are looking at. How do we make our resources go further versus expanding things that we have not figured out how to pay for yet.

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Given that answer, then, is the Minister willing to provide a rent supplement for additional units, since those units need not be owned; they could be rented, to increase the availability of housing?

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

The Rent Supplement Program will be exactly that. It will not be supplementing units that we already own within the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation. They will be supplementing market rental units so that we can reach more lower-income families and individuals within our market communities.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Yellowknife Centre .

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That is good news from the Minister. I finally want to talk about the federal budget in March. Ottawa announced a transfer of $36 million to the NWT over 10 years to provide for more housing. That compares to $240 million over 10 years in Nunavut. Why did we end up with the short end of the stick from Ottawa on housing? Thank you.

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Question 795-18(2): Eligibility For Homeownership Programs

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am as confused as the Member in trying to understand why we got short-changed in the northern housing strategy, and so I am actually flying down to Ottawa this Sunday to meet with the Minister responsible for the CMHC, Mr. Duclos. Mr. Duclos, right after the budget was released, did give me a call the next day and promised me that he would provide me a funding formula, because we do support our other territories; however, Nunavut has double of the amount of needs for housing and got eight times the funding.

We are asking for an explanation for why we got short-changed within that funding, and also to advocate that we can access more housing monies as it comes out, because a lot of the money for Indigenous people is only on reserve, and we do not qualify for that funding. We are having a face-to-face meeting Monday to discuss all of the issues with the Northwest Territories and our feeling of needing more support from the federal government.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Hay River North .

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Question 796-18(2): Funding For Family Violence Shelters

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R.J. Simpson

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have questions for the Minister of Health and Social Services . Over the course of this Assembly, it has come up quite often that the family violence shelters in the Northwest Territories are not funded by any sort of funding formula, which leads to disparities, leaving some shelters more in need than others.

When I spoke to the Minister about this before, during the business planning and during the budget session, he stated that he was going to work with the shelters, develop a funding formula, and that work would probably be done in August 2017. We are about 60 days away from August. I would like an update from the Minister to find out what work has been done on developing a funding formula for the family violence shelters. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 796-18(2): Funding For Family Violence Shelters

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I and my colleagues recognize that the current funding structure for the shelters has led to some challenges and some inconsistencies. Last year, I did direct the department of Health and Social Services to examine and work with the shelters to identify some of these immediate pressures. As a result of this work, we were fortunate to receive $120,000 in new funding to offset the increased operating costs of family violence shelters across the Northwest Territories.

When I met with the shelter network in 2016, I also committed to exploring the potential for a more equitable funding formula. At that time, I indicated, give us a little bit of patience, work with us. We will be in a better position to start discussions in August 2017. That has not occurred yet. We have had some initial work done. We have been working on some preliminary information with the shelter leads, but we have not begun the negotiations around a funding formula yet, and we will not be getting that until August at the earliest. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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R.J. Simpson

Hay River North

I am aware that there have been some talks, you could call them, with the shelter network and the individual shelters. There have been calls from the department saying, "How much do you spend on staff?" or questions like that. The department is doing something. I am not sure what this preliminary work is, but if the department is trying to figure out what the needs are, why are the shelters not being engaged now in this preliminary work?

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Question 796-18(2): Funding For Family Violence Shelters

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

In order to have an informed discussion, we need to actually understand where we are. We have done some preliminary work to determine where we stand, where the shelters stand, and we have been working with the chair of the shelter network who represents all of the shelters across the Northwest Territories. We have done this by e-mail correspondence, but also in face-to-face meetings.

As part of that work, the department has begun work on a bit of a zero-based budget exercise as our first step to determine the funding requirements, as well as the best and most equitable funding model for family violence. We need to have some information in hand in order to have informed discussions. We are working towards that, and we will have more fulsome or more complete discussions around a funding formula starting in August at the earliest.

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Question 796-18(2): Funding For Family Violence Shelters

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R.J. Simpson

Hay River North

I have also been working with the chair of the shelter network to try to get the department more engaged with the shelter network. The Minister says they are trying to determine the requirements for the shelters. Just getting the dry numbers for the shelters is not determining the requirements. It is determining how much money they are spending, which they already know because that is how much money they are getting. The Minister has already made his point clear that he is not going to engage with these individuals until August. When can we expect this funding formula to be complete and rolling out? How about that?

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Question 796-18(2): Funding For Family Violence Shelters

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

When I met with the individuals in 2016, I indicated to them clearly that we intend to move forward, we intend to work with them collaboratively, but we need a bit of time. We have just rolled out a single authority in the Northwest Territories, and I indicated at that time we will be in a better position to begin formal discussions in August 2017. I live up to that commitment. We are living up to that commitment. In the interim, we have worked with the chair. We have gathered information to help us present some information when we do meet with them.

I do not think the Member is interpreting what I have said correctly. We are working with them, we are gathering data, and we will have informed discussion and dialogue with them starting at the earliest in August. As far as when we come up with a funding formula, it really depends how those negotiations and discussions go. I would hate to presuppose a solution without having those discussions.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Nahendeh .

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Question 797-18(2): Designated Authority Council Training

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today, the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs did a Minister's statement on designated authority council training. It is very exciting, and I am happy to hear this. I guess my first question for the Minister is additional funding to support delivery. If this delivery is going to be done by the internet, what additional costs are we looking at for this delivery of the program? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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