Debates of March 18th, 1994

This is page numbers 689 - 717 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was community .

Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

Nunavut Tunngavik Presidential Election

Electing A Government Leader By Popular Vote

The High Cost Of Airfares In The Baffin

The High Cost Of Living In Small Northern Communities

Absence From The House

Appreciation To NWT Literacy Council

Care Of Sled Dogs

Aboriginal Languages Month

Subsidies For Small Businesses

Differences Between Cultures On Use Of Wildlife

Response To The Special Committee On Health And Social Services

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Advertising Re Consumer Affairs

GNWT Publicity Of Aboriginal Languages Month

Policy For Advertising In Southern Newspapers

Purpose Of European Visit

Policy For Advertising Of Middle Management Positions In Southern Newspapers

Plans For Oral History Tapes

Policy For Sole Source Contracts

Repair And Maintenance Of Housing Units For Sale

Source Of Money To Be Borrowed

Guidelines For Allocation Of Staff Housing

Status Of Trout Lake School Project

Item 12: Tabling Of Documents

Item 16: First Reading Of Bills

Bill 15:

An Act To Amend The Income Tax Act

Bill 17: Loan Authorization Act, 1994-95

Item 17: Second Reading Of Bills

Bill 15:

An Act To Amend The Income Tax Act

Bill 17: Loan Authorization Act, 1994-95

Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1994-95

Item 19: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Item 21: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Mr. Allooloo , Mr. Antoine , Hon. Silas Arngna'naaq , Mr. Arvaluk , Mr. Ballantyne , Hon. Nellie Cournoyea , Mr. Dent , Mr. Gargan , Hon. Stephen Kakfwi , Mr. Lewis , Hon. Jeannie Marie-Jewell , Hon. Rebecca Mike , Hon. Don Morin , Hon. Richard Nerysoo , Mr. Ng , Mr. Ningark , Mr. Patterson , Hon. John Pollard , Mr. Pudlat , Mr. Pudluk , Hon. John Todd , Mr. Whitford , Mr. Zoe

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Good morning. Mr. Clerk, would you please ring the bells, we are short of a quorum. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Amittuq , Mr. Allooloo .

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Nunavut Tunngavik Presidential Election

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would like, today, to stress the importance of the upcoming election of the Nunavut Tunngavik president which is being held this coming Monday. The Nunavut Caucus has a good working relationship with the aboriginal group which represents Inuit within Nunavut and I'm confident that this relationship will continue after the election of the new president.

I would like to thank Mr. James Eetoolook of Taloyoak, who has been acting president for the past few months, for the hard work and dedication he has shown to the organization.

---Applause

Madam Speaker, to those who are running for the presidency, I, on behalf of the Nunavut Caucus, wish you well. I believe the voters will choose the best person for this important position. To my fellow Inuit, please do not forget to vote on Monday. The polls are open from 10:00 am to 7:00 pm and are located at annex C of the Yellowknife Inn. If you are not on the voters list and are eligible to vote, you can be sworn in when you come to vote. Let us show the rest of Canada that we are involved and interested in our own future. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Lewis .

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Electing A Government Leader By Popular Vote

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Prior to and during this session, I've been working on a discussion paper on electing a leader by popular vote. Members recall that this was an item that was supposed to have been discussed in Cambridge Bay at our strategic planning workshop. The matter was deferred. This issue has been a subject of informal discussion during the six years I've been a Member. It has not proceeded to a full-blow examination in Caucus for two reasons. First, ordinary Members enjoy the privilege of being able to choose the Cabinet.

Second, Ministers enjoy being Ministers in a system which makes the Premier leader in name, but with limited authority compared to her southern counterparts.

Change doesn't come very easily or very quickly, Madam Speaker. Some Members will recall the long period of time it took to make many of our internal elections, which took place behind closed doors, into a public process. That was quite a battle. There is widespread disenchantment with the political process today. Citizens have indicated they want more mechanisms for them to be involved in the issues important to them. During the last decade, at least one political party has been formed and has obtained considerable public support for one reason only, and that promise is the promise to involve citizens more in the political process, and no real political platform beyond that.

In the absence of political parties, one obvious form of direct democracy which could work in the Northwest Territories is the election of the Premier in a general election. I believe the issue should be examined at our strategic planning meeting in Fort Smith. I will table a paper outlining how a leader could be elected, while retaining the essential power of the Assembly to remove both Cabinet and Government Leader . I will table, today, a short paper which examines the ramifications and technical problems in relation to choosing a leader by popular vote. Thank you.

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Baffin South , Mr. Pudlat .

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The High Cost Of Airfares In The Baffin

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Kenoayoak Pudlat

Baffin South

(Translation) Thank you, Madam Speaker. This is not the first time that I am going to talk about this through a Member's statement. In Baffin South, we have been paying a high cost of living and also high costs of air freight and airfares. We are very concerned about the high costs of airfares. For example, from Iqaluit to Lake Harbour is only about 25 to 30 minutes and it costs $127 one way. Madam Speaker, I have talked about the children's airfares. As soon as they reach the age of two, they have to pay full airfares. I would like to ask the Department of Transportation if they could do something about the high costs of airfares in the communities. Thank you.

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Aivilik , Mr. Arvaluk .

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The High Cost Of Living In Small Northern Communities

Item 3: Members' Statements

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James Arvaluk

Aivilik

Thank you, Madam Speaker. (Translation) Today, I would like to talk about the concern I have and the concerns that have been expressed by my constituents, with regard to the high cost of living and high cost of products that people buy from the stores. It is not just about my constituency, it concerns all the communities that have no road access.

I know, Madam Speaker, that in the north the cost of products is higher and they have a limited amount of stores in the communities. If there is only one store, and the co-op is not as strong as it should be in the communities, the prices are very high for groceries and other products. Madam Speaker, I would like to also say that Consumer Affairs should be protecting the consumers in the north. In the bigger communities the prices are not as high as in the smaller communities. I would like the government to look into the high costs of products in small communities. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Frame Lake , Mr. Dent .

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Absence From The House

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, I rise today to advise the House and my constituents that I will be absent from the House next week. As Members know, my wife delivered our new son prematurely in Montreal last week.

---Applause

And I have taken the advice, sagely offered by many in this House, that I should get me hence to Montreal to bring them back.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Natilikmiot , Mr. Ningark .

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Appreciation To NWT Literacy Council

Item 3: Members' Statements

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John Ningark

Natilikmiot

---Applause

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Yellowknife South , Mr. Whitford .

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Care Of Sled Dogs

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Today I would like to speak on a matter that will soon be coming up here in Yellowknife. Recently, I listened to an interview on the radio with an NWT dog musher by the name of Dave Olsen. This was prior to the start of the 1,500 mile Iditarod race in Alaska. It seems that certain animal rights groups are trying to stop events such as the Iditarod, Yukon Quest -- and, no doubt, they will be looking at us shortly -- claiming that this is cruel and mistreating animals, and that they are using animals for the amusement of men.

In the interview, Mr. Olsen, who raises dogs for a living, expressed the sentiments of the dog mushers well, people I have had the pleasure of knowing over the years who raise dogs, which are bred and born for racing, they are raised and trained with care and affection, and they work well with their trainers, not unlike any other show dog or cat that they have in the south. For these dogs, that is their purpose in life and they are treated, in my opinion, with all the care they need.

Madam Speaker, I have been associated with the Yellowknife Rotary Club for a good number of years. The Yellowknife Rotary Club sponsored the 150 mile Canadian championship dog race here on Yellowknife Bay. It's over a three day period of 50 miles each day. I have yet to see, in the ten years that I've been working on that dog race, closely associated with the mushers, cruelty to animals out there on the ice or anywhere, as a matter of fact, in the handling area. They are groomed, they are fed, they are watered. Even out on the trail they are petted. They work hard.

May I seek unanimous consent to conclude?

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent to continue. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Continue, Mr. Whitford .

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, colleagues. Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, they are tended well out there on the race. I've been associated with dog teams for many years as some of the Members here have, as well, raised dogs in their youth and run them. We look after them because they are part of our life. I no longer raise dogs but I am associated as closely as I can be. I am very concerned, Madam Speaker, and that is why I raise this issue that soon those same animal rights people will be here looking at this Canadian championship dog race and stating the same thing, that this is very cruel.

I, for one, Madam Speaker, denounce that kind of statement because they are unfounded and they are interfering in areas where they know little or nothing about. I want to say, for the record, that the mushers have the full support, I am sure, of a lot of people who are associated with this sport and bring a certain amount of recognition to the Northwest Territories through their efforts. Thank you.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Antoine .

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Aboriginal Languages Month

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

(Translation) Thank you, Madam Speaker. Last year during a special chiefs' meeting of the Assembly of First Nations in Ottawa, the chiefs unanimously approved the designation of March as Aboriginal Languages Month. The chiefs of Canada have recognized that language is part of culture, and it carries the key to self-determination and our future as a First Nations people.

This was done to focus more attention and effort to support aboriginal languages in Canada. Recognition of our languages is recognition of ourselves as a distinct people. It is essential that we express our beliefs and ideals through our own languages. Languages define our thoughts, our values of beliefs and our traditions. We cannot become complacent in our efforts to promote aboriginal languages. Unlike Euro-Canadians, we have no option for returning to the old country and to relearn a forgotten tongue. Once a northern language falls into disuse, it is gone forever. (Translation ends)

Madam Speaker, I am proud of my language and I believe that my language is a very important part of defining who I am as a Dene. This government has started down the road to dealing with the problems surrounding the use of aboriginal languages. Programs administered by the government such as taping of oral histories is an important part of this process. However, Madam Speaker, it is equally important for this government to remember just as it is important to gather traditions of the aboriginal elders, it is also necessary to share and disseminate information and languages with younger generations.

Madam Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent to continue. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Continue, Mr. Antoine .

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Since 1990, this organization, the NWT Literacy Council, has done an excellent job in promoting literacy in the NWT. Projects under way include working hand in hand with CBC to raise awareness through interviews and contests. The council has plans to publish native language books written by and for teenagers. This is an excellent program that will not only promote reading of one's own language, it also helps to develop young authors' writing skills. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Iqaluit , Mr. Patterson .

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Subsidies For Small Businesses

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would like to say at the outset to everyone, especially the MLA for Baffin Central, I am a strong supporter of the Pangnirtung fishery. When I was Government Leader I accompanied the Honourable Tom Hockin, then Minister of Small Business and Tourism. We travelled by snowmobile to the site of the first turbot fishery. Mr. Hockin subsequently extended assistance to help get the fishery going, and since then it has prospered and has, in fact, been given significant financial support through the NWT Development Corporation.

As Minister of Education , I also worked with the Honourable John Leefe, then Minister of Fisheries for Nova Scotia, who came to Baffin several times to help Inuit fishermen get access to the excellent fisheries training available in Nova Scotia which I think has worked well.

I will never forget Mr. Leefe's advice to our government at that time. He said that in developing our fishery we had two clear choices to make. We could follow the Newfoundland model: very generous government subsidies for over-capitalized equipment and facilities for large corporations. This approach ignores the reality of real markets and real costs and is ultimately doomed to fail because government cannot afford huge subsidies forever. Or, we could follow what he described as the Nova Scotia model which focused on small businesses, inshore operations and reasonable limits on loans and subsidies to respect the real economy.

Recently, Madam Speaker, I have dared to ask a few questions about the policies and mandate of the NWT Development Corporation when it comes to market disruption. My inquiries have been inspired by the concerns of a small Iqaluit-based company in which northern residents have invested their own money. I have been surprised at the defensive reaction of the Minister of Economic Development and Tourism . He rather contemptuously described my corporate constituents as a minor player.

I would have hoped, Madam Speaker, that the Minister would have more respect for a small business, which is trying to become involved in developing the eastern fishery using their own capital and without reliance on heavy government subsidies.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Mr. Patterson , your allotted time has lapsed.

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

I seek unanimous consent to conclude, Madam Speaker.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Please proceed, Mr. Patterson .

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Madam Speaker, I winced at the fulminations of the Member for Aivilik when he was on this side of the House and I am enjoying watching him suffer a bit now that I am over here.

---Laughter

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Keewatin Central...(Microphone turned off)

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Keewatin Central. The Member for Aivilik had some tirades, too.

---Laughter

Madam Speaker, I am going to screw up my courage and gird my loins...

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Michael Ballantyne

Yellowknife North

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

I am going to dare to ask some thoughtful questions about the Baffin fishery and even about the Pangnirtung fishery, not because I am against the jobs that have been created in Pangnirtung, but because I want to make sure we don't follow the Newfoundland model in Baffin Island. So, Madam Speaker, I hope the discussion will be reasonable and my questions can be answered openly and without undue defensiveness. Thank you.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Deh Cho , Mr. Gargan .

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Differences Between Cultures On Use Of Wildlife

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I will be making a statement on a book I read called the "Pied Piper of Hamelin." I have to return it by the end of the month, so I thought maybe I should make a statement now.

Madam Speaker, I listened, with interest, to the Minister of Renewable Resources the other day when he described the killing of thousands of muskrats in Holland. Because these rats do damage to the dykes in Holland, they are trapped and killed. The Europeans, being fine moral people, would never use the pelts or meat for anything useful. Instead, the carcasses are thrown into the ocean. Madam Speaker, the major reason Europeans are so interested in what goes on in our country when it comes to wildlife is that they have managed to kill off most of their own.

---Applause

Vast tracks of forest have been laid to waste by the poisonous emission of their factories.

---Applause

One only has to look at the difference between our own history and legends and the European legends which are aptly called "fairy tales."

---Laughter

In our Dene legends, harmony with nature and the land is stressed. In the European tradition, in fairy tales such as Little Red Riding Hood and the Pied Piper of Hamelin, the rats always get theirs in the end.

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

With this type of cultural education, it is little wonder that there is not much free wildlife in Europe. Madam Speaker, maybe we could write our own fairy tales for the north, a little politically correct one, something like the Pied Piper of Rankin.

---Laughter

We could have the honourable Member as the hero of the story, maybe something along the lines of piping all the seals out of the water onto the ice, where it would be reasonable to be harvested and the vast majority allowed to return to the waters.

Madam Speaker, this silly example I used illustrates the difference between the aboriginal and the European cultures. Madam Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to continue my statement.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Please proceed, Mr. Gargan .

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Thank you, Madam Speaker, and honourable Members. Madam Speaker, this silly example I used illustrates the difference between the aboriginal and the European cultures. We look at the seal or the caribou as a resource, a source of food that has to be managed responsibly for the benefit of present and future generations. The Europeans and their collective guilt for having killed off their own wildlife have a romantic notion of what nature is. They cannot understanding our living in harmony with the land around us.

Madam Speaker, in the Pied Piper of Hamelin, there is a poem which goes as follows: "Each children has its worth, each death will be paid. A promise is kept, a promise is made or a time will come for the piper to play and charm all hope of our future away." This is the basic moral of this fairy tale. What we have to make the Europeans understand is that we, as aboriginal people, realize where our future is. We, as a government, have promised to do everything possible to ensure wildlife will exist for our future generations.

Madam Speaker, I plan to write a book, if I ever get out of politics, called "Discovering Europe from an Aboriginal Perspective." Of course that means I have to go on a fact-finding trip. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

---Laughter

---Applause

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Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Madam Premier .

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Madam Speaker, I wish to return to item 2, Ministers' statements.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Madam Premier is seeking unanimous consent to return to Ministers' statements. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Proceed.

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Madam Speaker, the report of the Special Committee on Health and Social Services was tabled in this House on November 18, 1993. This report was a major undertaking and reflects input received from people across the north. It calls for fundamental changes in health and social service programs throughout the Northwest Territories and will have a significant impact on the way several government departments deliver services.

I will be tabling the government's response to this report within a week. The extra time being taken beyond the 120 days requested by Members is to allow for translation and to allow for the incorporation of input from all Ministers.

I would, once again, like to thank the committee for their work and to reaffirm that the development of a comprehensive response is being treated with the utmost importance by the government. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

---Applause

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Item 2, Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. The honourable Member for Sahtu , Mr. Kakfwi .

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Speaker. This is in response to a question asked by Mr. Ningark on March 15 regarding the criteria for living in outpost camps.

Assistance for outpost camps has been provided under the community harvester assistance program since 1992. At that time, the guidelines for this program were revised to increase the opportunity for local decision-making on the allocation of funds for renewable resource harvesting. People who wish to obtain financial assistance under this program should hold a general hunting licence and should apply through the local wildlife committee.

Some of the items which are eligible for assistance under this program include fuel for use during harvesting, materials for a shelter and equipment and supplies essential for subsistence harvesting operations. Each region and community decides on the priority of use for funding under this program. Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 4, returns to oral questions. The honourable Member for Baffin Central , Ms. Mike .

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Social assistance recipients should be eligible for the GST tax credit on their income tax returns. The amount of refund that they would receive would depend on their annual income and the number of dependants they claim on their tax return. When social assistance recipients receive this refund, it is not counted as income in determining the amount of assistance they receive. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, oral questions. The honourable Member for Aivilik , Mr. Arvaluk .

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Question 320-12(5): Advertising Re Consumer Affairs

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James Arvaluk

Aivilik

Thank you, Madam Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Safety and Public Services . Given that there are some instances of price gouging going on in the small communities, especially in those communities where there is no competition, people in the communities have no real idea what Consumer Affairs does. Can the Minister tell me what kind of advertising the department does to make sure people, particularly in the small communities, know what Consumer Affairs can do for them?

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Safety and Public Services , Mr. Nerysoo .

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I'm not totally aware of all the advertising that is being done, so I'll take the question as notice and report back all the advertising and information that we provide to our communities.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Antoine .

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Question 321-12(5): GNWT Publicity Of Aboriginal Languages Month

Item 5: Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Mahsi, Madam Speaker. According to my statement today about March being Aboriginal Languages Month, I would like to ask the Minister responsible for languages, the Honourable Richard Nerysoo , does the Government of the Northwest Territories recognize that March is Aboriginal Languages Month? If they recognize that it is,

what has the government done to promote, support and enhance aboriginal languages for the month of March?

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Mr. Antoine , you have asked two questions of the Minister. Minister responsible for Education, Culture and Employment .

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would ask that the question be deferred to the Premier , who is responsible for the matter of the aboriginal languages agreement.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Madam Speaker, in this last week, the issue of setting Aboriginal Languages Month was discussed between myself and the department. There is an initiative to proclaim a week or day or something to recognize this very special month. The question I asked is what the program of activities is to recognize the very important matter. We didn't have a program. We didn't have a plan of events to enhance this notification so people will have aboriginal languages brought to their attention. We are fully informed that this special month has been proclaimed.

My suggestion to the department is that we plan for another time, maybe three months from now before school ends, to set aside our own week. It should be accompanied with proper advertising, proper input, with special activities around it. At this time, it would be very simple to go along with the flow and proclaim something, but I don't believe we should just proclaim a week or a month and do nothing about it.

We are planning some activities and we will be proclaiming, once we have those activities in place, activities with schools, adult education and we will put out posters at that time. Madam Speaker, I'm not suggesting that we are ignoring this special time, but I believe we have to do something more than just proclaim a month and not have a program and action behind it. Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Antoine .

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Question 321-12(5): GNWT Publicity Of Aboriginal Languages Month

Item 5: Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Letters went out to First Nations schools, so that schools could be involved in this. I would like to ask the Premier , if she is responsible for this, if anything has yet been done by the government to recognize March as Aboriginal Languages Month in the schools and communities. Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Madam Premier .

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Madam Speaker, I realize that this was proclaimed by the Assembly of First Nations. When we discussed this earlier this week, I did a bit of fact-finding to find out what the aboriginal nations had done about it themselves and what active programs were being developed. To this point, I see none. All I'm saying is that I believe it is important and it is being recognized. It is not that we are discarding it, but I feel we can proclaim a week, sometime in the future, to make sure that we do the action required to give it a little more support than just verbal acclamation. Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife South , Mr. Whitford .

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Question 322-12(5): Policy For Advertising In Southern Newspapers

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, I would like to direct a question to the Minister responsible for the Department of Transportation. I have in front of me an ad for a transportation planner that has been advertised in the Toronto Globe and Mail. As we all know, the Toronto Globe and Mail is a fairly broadly distributed newspaper. It is very expensive to advertise in it, something like $1,500 for an ad that we can get here in the Northwest Territories for something like $250.

The point of this whole thing, Madam Speaker, is why are we advertising in southern newspapers when we should be advertising in the north? I thought we had a buy north and hire north policy. What is the policy of the department when it comes to advertising, not senior positions, but positions like this in southern newspapers?

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you, Mr. Whitford . Your question should be posed to the Minister of Personnel , who is responsible for advertising. However, I do not see the Minister in the House. Madam Premier .

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Madam Speaker, I just want to note that the Minister is out of the House because she had an urgent call that her daughter was ill. She should be back momentarily. So, if you want to pose that a little later, she will be back shortly.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Lewis .

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Question 323-12(5): Purpose Of European Visit

Item 5: Oral Questions

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Renewable Resources . I've heard some discussion about a fact-finding mission to some European countries in connection with the fur trade. I would like to ask

the Minister exactly what is the intention or the purpose of this visit.

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Renewable Resources , Mr. Kakfwi .

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Madam Speaker, the visit that we're planning to have in the next few weeks would be to make contact with the various governments of the European countries. For myself to meet with the Ministers of Environment in each respective country to convey to them the seriousness of the situation as we see it, regarding the implications of their regulations and the economic European community regarding import of wild furs after December 1994.

To ask them specifically to intervene on our behalf, to recognize that people cannot forget that Canada has an abundance of wildlife, but also aboriginal people who are dependent and living in coexistence with that wildlife. European people should be equally if not more concerned about the survival of aboriginal people and not just the foxes, bears and seals that run around this country. Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Speaker. The Minister knows that the people who are concerned with animal welfare are a very tough bunch of people. I would like to ask the Minister what approach is he going to take on his visit in dealing with people who have forces that are pushing them very, very powerfully in the opposite direction?

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Renewable Resources , Mr. Kakfwi .

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Madam Speaker, the message to these governments will be that the Europeans may not think they are the only people in the world who are concerned about wildlife. We are concerned about our wildlife as well, and we will give them some examples of some of the work we do which is recognized internationally for the manner in which we will conduct ourselves in the management and the preservation of wildlife. And that they have a few things to learn from us, judging from the situation they have in Europe. There are some things we can work on together.

There are some requirements for Europeans to recognize that beating up and wiping out the lifestyle of aboriginal people is about the worst thing they could do in their over-zealousness to protect wildlife. The best protection that wildlife has in the world are the aboriginal people who have lived, survived and depended on them for the thousands of years that we've existed. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife South , Mr. Whitford .

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Question 324-12(5): Policy For Advertising Of Middle Management Positions In Southern Newspapers

Item 5: Oral Questions

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I have a question to direct to the Minister of Personnel . It deals with advertising for positions in the Northwest Territories. I, and many of my colleagues, believe we have a hire north policy and a buy north policy that wherever possible we'll search high and low for qualified people here within our boundaries before we go south. I would like to know what is the policy for advertising positions, not senior positions, but more junior level positions in the southern newspapers?

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. We don't have a policy for southern advertisement in terms of junior positions. The only time the advertisement is placed in southern newspapers is when we have advertised more than once across the north, and we either didn't get a response or we didn't find a suitable person for the position. Thank you.

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I understand that we do advertise in the north as well, but if we advertise on February 21 in the north, then February 26 in the southern papers and again on March 4, it's hardly time for any response to come from the north. I just wonder why there isn't a period of time that should be allowed, a reasonable time. I just wonder if there's a policy that we send out ads in the north and the southern papers simultaneously, and not give a chance to northerners to respond.

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I try to monitor the southern advertisements very closely. If I do have a concern, I usually hold them until I get a satisfactory response from my DM of Personnel. In this incident about which Mr. Whitford is asking, it could be that the advertisements were placed both north and south. I will look into it because I don't have the details on that particular advertisement, and get back to the Member with the information in a few days. Thank you.

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Question 325-12(5): Plans For Oral History Tapes

Item 5: Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Madam Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment . This has to do with a recent advertisement that I have noticed for oral traditional projects. I understand that there are tapes from previous projects which have been stored by the department

and kept in the museum. I support collecting the oral histories. I think that's one way of capturing the knowledge of our elders who we're losing nearly every day. Can the Minister tell me if his department has any plans for these tapes that he has stored? Are they available? Are they going to transcribe them and distribute them to the public? What are the plans of his department for this project? Thank you.

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Is the Minister telling us that there is a catalogue listing of what is available, and that the public has access to these tapes? Is that what the Minister is telling us? Thank you.

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Minister of Education, Culture and Employment Programs, Mr. Nerysoo .

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I can't say to the honourable Member that there is a cataloguing system, but I can tell you that there is information on the documents that have been provided to the museum. There is a listing. I would have to check to find out if all the documents have been catalogued. There is a big difference between cataloguing and listing the information. Cataloguing includes putting them in order, in terms of dates and all those kinds of things. I can't confirm that is the case. I'll check into the matter and provide the information to the honourable Member.

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Madam Speaker. There are people in the public who are very interested in the projects and would like to have access to these tapes. I would like to ask the Minister how can members of the public access these tapes and the transcripts? Thank you.

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I guess one of the first ways is to communicate their request to the department or to me. That would be the first way of dealing with it. I will provide information to the honourable Member in detail about what the communities might do about applying for the information for use in the communities.

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Question 326-12(5): Policy For Sole Source Contracts

Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 696

Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, I have a question I would like to direct to the Minister responsible for the Department of Justice. I would like to ask the Minister what policies does his department have regarding the awarding of sole source contracts?

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Speaker. It is the same as for all other departments. Sole source contracts are awarded where the nature of the requirement by government is considered to be of an urgent nature or where we see only one party that could possibly meet the demands we have, where there is only one party who is available and capable of performing the contract. Those are the two main requirements, that it is urgent and where we see only one party who can fulfil the responsibilities. Thank you.

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Would the Minister be able to tell this House whether his department has any policies regarding the awarding of contracts to former employees of the department?

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Madam Speaker, I cannot answer that question. I'm not aware at this time if employees are disqualified from contracts with the government as a result of leaving the employment of this government. Thank you.

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Can the Minister tell me whether his department, when it awards sole source contracts on an urgent basis -- or whatever basis that meets the criteria -- will purchase and provide equipment to the contractor to provide that function?

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Madam Speaker, if an individual with whom we want to contract is the only party that we think can fulfil the contract and we need them on an urgent basis, and the party we are contracting requires some equipment in order to fulfil that contract, we would consider providing equipment in order to have the work completed as we request it. Thank you.

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Thank you. Final supplementary, Mr. Whitford .

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, I would like to ask the Minister of Justice a final question. It is my understanding that a former employee of the Department of Justice who is now living out of the territories -- they were only here a short time and they are now living out of the territories in one of the provinces -- was recently awarded not one, but two sole source contracts, totalling some $50,000 and may have been provided with computer equipment by the department.

Could the Minister provide this House with information regarding these contracts, including an explanation of why these contracts were not put out to public tender and whether there was any conflict of interest when the contracts were sole-sourced to that former employee?

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Madam Speaker, we can provide the information. I feel that there is nothing wrong or improper about what has been done and we will provide the information as the Member requests, in order that we can all make that judgement together. Thank you.

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Question 327-12(5): Repair And Maintenance Of Housing Units For Sale

Item 5: Oral Questions

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you, Madam Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Public Works and Services . Madam Speaker, on December 13 and 14, 1993, I raised some concerns from my constituency about allocation of housing units and what seemed to be extraordinary repairs and maintenance on those units that appeared to be eligible for sale. The Minister asked for particulars and promised to investigate. I provided particulars in a Member's statement and also in a subsequent letter to the Minister, but I'm still waiting to hear the results of his inquiries, and so are my constituents. I would like to ask the Minister what is happening. Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Public Works and Services , Mr. Morin .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I just signed off a letter today to Mr. Patterson advising him of what is happening in Iqaluit. I requested the Minister of Finance to look into the issue and to do an independent audit and respond to the questions and issues you raised. I expect that answer back this month. Thank you.

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you, Madam Speaker. It must be ESP, Teflon Don is still delivering. I will eagerly await the response. Thank you.

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There was no question there, Mr. Patterson .

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Michael Ballantyne

Yellowknife North

There was no answer either.

---Laughter

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Item 5, oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Lewis .

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Question 328-12(5): Source Of Money To Be Borrowed

Item 5: Oral Questions

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Yesterday, we gave third reading, I believe, to a bill authorizing this government to borrow money. I would like to ask the Minister of Finance , now that you have the bill through the House, where are we going to borrow the money from so that we can have some operating capital for the next while?

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John Pollard

Hay River

Thank you, Madam Speaker. In these kinds of situations, it is short-term borrowing that we exercise and that is either done with the Royal Bank or the CIBC. One of those institutions is where we'll go for the money. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

When you go anywhere to borrow money, you have to indicate that you're a good, safe bet. Each province that I've witnessed over the last several months has been having terrible problems getting the money they need because their rating isn't very good. I would like to ask the Minister how our government is rated in terms of its fiscal position.

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John Pollard

Hay River

Madam Speaker, we don't have a triple A rating or an AAB rating, or any of those kinds of ratings. We've never had the need to get that kind of rating. We enjoy, what I believe to be, triple A rating without being rated. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

I would like to ask the Minister, since there has been no decision as to where we're going to borrow the money -- it could be from one or two banks, or it could be more -- when this is done on what basis does the bank provide the money? They have to have some kind of criteria to determine whether this government should be loaned the money or not. I would like to ask the Minister, what is the criteria that's used to determine whether this government is a good risk to loan money to?

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John Pollard

Hay River

Madam Speaker, the process is that I sign a bunch of notes, some for CIBC, some for Royal Bank, and I have those transported over to the Department of Finance. The money managers over there use them as they see fit and where they can get the best rate for short-term borrowing.

The criteria that the bank uses for us I am not aware of, Madam Speaker. I can only say to this House that we don't have to go to the bank on bended knee and pledge our lives and lay everything on the line. It's just an automatic thing that our money managers go to the bank and say here are some notes, we would like some money, and we get it. So, I think that's the procedure with short-term borrowing.

If we were to be looking at the purchase of some large asset, or if we were to be looking at some long-term borrowing, then I think we would be there having to pledge and have collateral, et cetera. But, for short-term borrowing I don't know what criteria the bank uses, but they are certainly not onerous, they consider us a good risk. We haven't had any problems in the past and I don't anticipate any this time, Madam Speaker. Thank you.

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Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. The honourable Member for Kitikmeot , Mr. Ng .

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Question 329-12(5): Guidelines For Allocation Of Staff Housing

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Speaker. The guidelines for allocation of staff housing...Sorry, my question is directed to the Minister of Personnel . The guidelines for allocation of staff housing units to government employees based on the needs of these employees has caused some confusion in the implementation of the staff housing strategy. I would like to ask the Minister what the current criteria is for the allocation of staff housing units for staff in the communities. Thank you.

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. The current policy for allocating staff housing has not changed. It is the size of the family and the needs, which are the criteria that have been practised in the past. Thank you.

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I take it, based on need is the bedroom size. If that's the case, there are some units that are larger than other units, and I would like to ask is the size of the unit a factor or is it strictly based on the number of bedrooms in each unit? Thank you.

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I don't have that information with me. I will take his question under notice.

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Question 330-12(5): Status Of Trout Lake School Project

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Mahsi, Madam Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Public Works and Services . This is with regard to the school and the community office that was built in Trout Lake last year. I think the community has finally moved into it after the fiasco with delivery of the furniture and so forth. I would like to ask the Minister about how the whole project went, if he could provide the House with the status on that. Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Public Works and Services , Mr. Morin .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Madam Speaker. The project in Trout Lake was a good success, according to the people in Trout Lake and according to my department, as well as PCL, the project managers. We used a unique approach on this project. We used a project management approach where we worked very closely with the community to build it. We maximized the use of labour in the community, and we involved training as well. When I went in there last fall, the people of Trout Lake were very proud of the building. Rightfully, they should be. They did an excellent job and they brought the building in at a reasonable cost. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

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Clerk Of The House

Mr. David Hamilton

Madam Speaker, I wish to table, in accordance with rule 52(10), Tabled Document 45-12(5) which is a response to Petition No. 4-12(5) which was presented by the Member for High Arctic and responded to by the Minister of Safety and Public Services .

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

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Brian Lewis

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Thanks very much, Madam Speaker. Tabled Document 46-12(5) is a short paper on choosing a Premier through a general election.

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

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John Pollard

Hay River

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, I wish to seek unanimous consent to proceed with first reading of Bill 15,

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Thank you, Madam Speaker. Thank you, Members. Madam Speaker, I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Nunakput , that Bill 15,

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Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Bill 15 has had first reading.

---Carried

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Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to proceed with first reading of Bill 17, Loan Authorization Act, 1994-95. Thank you.

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Thank you, Madam Speaker, and Members. Madam Speaker, I move, seconded by the honourable for Nunakput, that Bill 17, Loan Authorization Act, 1994-95 , be read for the first time. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Thank you, Madam Speaker, and Members. Madam Speaker, I move, seconded by the honourable for Nunakput, that Bill 15,

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Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Bill 15 has had second reading and accordingly the bill stands referred to a committee.

---Carried

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