Debates of Dec. 8th, 1998

This is page numbers 585 - 623 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 6th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was nunavut .

Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

Minister's Statement: 92-13(6): School Opening In Pangnirtung

Minister's Statement: 93-13(6): Crackdown On Telemarketing Fraud

Minister's Statement: 94-13(6): Social Union Negotiations

Northwestel Public Image

Conflict Of Interest Exhibit Signed By Ministers

Effects Of Global Warming

National Child Day Poster Contest

St. Patrick's Students Against Drunk Driving Program

Presentation On Fetal Alcohol Syndrome/fetal Alcohol Effect

Need For Larger Boats For Harvesting Purposes

Constituency Assistant Neil Pascal

Candidacy For Premier Position

Public Inquiry Into Residential School Abuses

Rae-edzo Friendship Centre Executive Director

Actions Of The Iqaluit Emergency Measures Organizations

Reflections On Matters To Be Considered By The Legislature

St. Patrick's Interschool Hockey Tournament Victory

Return To Oral Question 204-13(6): Formula Funding For Rae-edzo

Community Nursing Services

Global Warming Initiatives

Deputy Minister Review Committee

Impact Of Climate Change On Wildlife

Tuberculosis Concerns In Iqaluit

Limit On GNWT Guarantees

Status Of Nunavut P3 Projects

Canadian Teacher Shortage

Demands On Down Payment Pilot Program

Teacher Education Program

New Francophone School In Iqaluit

Number Of NWT Teachers

Land Use Permits For Winter Roads

Process For Collective Bargaining Negotiations

Written Question 9-13(6): Public/private Partnership Funding Guarantees

Item 10: Petitions

Petition 8-13(6): Naming Of The New Western Arctic

Petition 9-13(6): Naming Of The New Western Arctic

Petition 10-13(6): Naming Of The New Western Arctic

Item 12: Reports Of Committees On The Review Of Bills

Tabled Document 54-13(6): Letter From Ms. Becky Schaub Regarding A Complaint Of Conflict Of Interest Previously Filed Against MLA Jane Groenewegen

Changes To The Electoral Boundaries Of Deh Cho And Hay River

Bill 33:

An Act To Amend The Access To Information And Protection Of Privacy Act

Item 17: First Reading Of Bills

Bill 33:

An Act To Amend The Access To Information And Protection Of Privacy Act

Bill 28:

An Act To Amend The Social Assistance Act

Item 18: Second Reading Of Bills

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Item 22: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Honourable Jim Antoine , Honourable Goo Arlooktoo , Mr. Barnabas , Honourable Charles Dent , Mr. Erasmus , Mr. Evaloarjuk , Honourable Sam Gargan, Mrs. Groenewegen , Mr. Henry , Honourable Stephen Kakfwi , Mr. Krutko , Mr. Miltenberger , Mr. Morin , Honourable Kelvin Ng , Mr. Ningark , Mr. O'Brien , Mr. Ootes , Mr. Picco , Mr. Rabesca , Mr. Roland , Mr. Steen , Honourable Manitok Thompson , Honourable John Todd .

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Oh, God, may your spirit and guidance be in us as we work for the benefit of all our people, for peace and justice in our land and for the constant recognition of the dignity and aspirations of those whom we serve. Amen.

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Thank you, Ms. Thompson . Good afternoon. Orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Dent .

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Minister's Statement: 92-13(6): School Opening In Pangnirtung

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good afternoon. On December 17th , the Attagoyuk Ilisavik School will open in the community of Pangnirtung. This opening marks the result of an impressive cooperation between the community, staff of the Baffin Divisional Education Council, the Government of the Northwest Territories and several northern contractors.

As this House knows, Mr. Speaker, the school in Pangnirtung was lost in a tragic fire during the winter of 1996. The facility, which was being renovated at the time, was completely gutted. While the loss was devastating, quick thinking in the community resulted in very little disruption to the school program. Displaced students were accommodated in several locations, including Nunavut Arctic College's Community Learning Centre. Schooling continued with strong support from the Baffin Divisional Education Council and other schools throughout the Baffin region.

To speed the reconstruction of the school, the community district education authority decided to use the school design adopted from a similar-sized facility that will soon be completed in Pond Inlet. The Pangnirtung school will accommodate 385 students. It is important to note that it includes a large gymnasium that will provide excellent space for community activities. This enlarged gym was made possible because the Hamlet of Pangnirtung paid for the space in excess of Education, Culture and Employment standards.

The new school has also taken an innovative approach to designing space for career and technology studies. These rooms will be at the front of the school and visible to students and the community.

Capital projects such as this are important to ensure that students across the north have a suitable environment in which to learn. This year, approximately 25 projects are under way to renovate or construct new schools. As well, nine college facilities are under development.

In closing, I would like to thank all those involved in the Pangnirtung school project. Close working relationships and solid commitment have provided, with the resources available, the best possible facility for Pangnirtung residents.

Congratulations to Pangnirtung and the students of Attagoyuk Ilisavik School. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Thank you. Ministers' statements. Ms. Thompson .

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Minister's Statement: 93-13(6): Crackdown On Telemarketing Fraud

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Manitok Thompson

Aivilik

Mr. Speaker, on November 12th and 13th, I attended the Conference of Ministers Responsible for Consumer Affairs, which was held on Prince Edward Island.

Consumer Affairs Ministers recognize the importance of working together to better inform consumers about telemarketing fraud. More importantly, the Ministers agreed that there was a need to help enforcement agencies crack down on cross-border fraud and scams.

At our meeting, all Ministers agreed to sign the Cooperative Enforcement Agreement on Consumer Related Measures. In addition, CANSHARE, an information network, was launched.

Together, these initiatives will increase sharing of information on consumer protection issues. They will allow faster and better national tracking of deceptive telemarketing and other kinds of scams.

Mr. Speaker, a public education campaign will be launched in January 1999, which has been declared the International Year of Older Persons. The campaign is designed to inform all consumers, including senior citizens who are often a target of these scams.

In addition, Mr. Speaker, Ministers have agreed to harmonize the rules governing the cost of credit information to consumers. This will strengthen efforts to have one set of rules in place by the year 2000 for disclosure of information about the cost of credit by financial institutions and automobile leasing firms. With these new rules, consumers will have a legal right to obtain more information from businesses when they are borrowing money or leasing a car.

Mr. Speaker, our efforts in educating northern consumers and protecting senior citizens from telemarketing and consumer fraud is vital. The Department of Municipal and Community Affairs recognizes this important role and is taking the necessary steps to ensure adequate protection of consumers across the north.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Thank you. Ministers statements. Mr. Ng .

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Minister's Statement: 94-13(6): Social Union Negotiations

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Mr. Speaker, as Members may be aware, social union negotiations became a very high profile issue in the Quebec election campaign. Now, with the Quebec election behind us, all participating governments are eager to successfully conclude these negotiations.

The primary objective of a new social union arrangement is to provide for more effective and efficient delivery of social programs to all Canadians. These negotiations will shape how governments in this country relate to one another and to all Canadians.

In recent years, Mr. Speaker, the GNWT has come to be recognized as a legitimate participant in a variety of intergovernmental forums where issues of national significance are considered by federal and provincial governments.

Discussions about social policy reform began at the 1995 Annual Premiers Conference in St. John's, Newfoundland. Since that time, this government has been working toward a strong national partnership which would oversee the more effective and sustained delivery of social programs and services to all Canadians.

With the establishment of Nunavut and with Aboriginal self-government agreements, the makeup of the Northwest Territories will change forever. However, all northern governments will continue to be faced with the realities of the north.

Our government's goal in these negotiations, Mr. Speaker, is to ensure that these realities are reflected in the social union framework for the nation.

Discussions around the social union framework cannot separate responsibility for the provision of social programs and services and the fiscal arrangements that provide the necessary capacity for governments to provide comparable services to all Canadians.

We all know, Mr. Speaker, that delivering social programs and services in the Northwest Territories is more expensive than in southern Canada. We know that we must face the challenge of delivering these programs and services in a high cost part of Canada where access is a major factor in providing comparable and affordable services.

For this government to be successful in delivering social programs and services to territorial residents, the outcome of social union discussions must recognize that we have responsibilities equal to those of the provinces. The ongoing challenge for us is to maintain access to social programs and services that are taken for granted in most provinces.

The GNWT is committed to these objectives. We will continue to be active participants in the negotiation process that will hopefully reach a successful conclusion in the coming months.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement: 94-13(6): Social Union Negotiations

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Thank you. Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Miltenberger .

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Member's Statement 238-13(6): Northwestel Public Image

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I wish to speak again about NorthwesTel, the second part of my statement that I wanted to speak to on this particular issue.

As I indicated, we had lunch with Mr. Boorman, the President, yesterday and he gave us a broad overview of some of the factors affecting NorthwesTel and its ability to be a viable appropriation. On the other half of that equation, while we have to be sympathetic to a certain extent to NorthwesTel, we have to recognize that the communities, as well, have strong concerns about the level of service and whether it will, in fact, be affordable.

Mr. Speaker, NorthwesTel is aware of that concern, if not from me, from many others that they have heard those concerns from. They recognize and they have been told repeatedly that they have to do a better job in terms of marketing and responding to people and community concerns.

Mr. Boorman indicated the fact that they intend to go out to the communities and start trying to, in fact, address that shortcoming. Mr. Speaker, I think we have to see our relationship with NorthwesTel as something of a partnership that requires a certain amount of goodwill by both parties. That has to be based, of course, on both parties having all the facts and being aware of all the figures to ensure that, in fact, we are not subsidizing a corporation.

CRTC, I think will be, I would hope, looking at those factors when NorthwesTel approaches them on these issues of concern. Mr. Speaker, the people of the north and NorthwesTel have a vested interest in a strong, affordable telecommunication system that links all of our communities together and to the world. I would encourage NorthwesTel as they come to us looking for support to ensure that their corporate house is in order as well and that they are going to be able to address in a reasonable, affordable way, the concerns of the people of the communities of the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

--Applause

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Member's Statement 238-13(6): Northwestel Public Image

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The Speaker

Thank you. Members' statements. Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Member's Statement 239-13(6): Conflict Of Interest Exhibit Signed By Ministers

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yesterday in my comments concerning Document 246 I challenged each Member who signed that document to provide an explanation of their involvement. Each of them did that.

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Member's Statement 239-13(6): Conflict Of Interest Exhibit Signed By Ministers

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The Speaker

I anticipated that Members would make reference to the conflict of interest issue that was concluded yesterday. For that reason, we have come up with some rulings that address the process that we had yesterday. In Beauchesne's, it states that a Member may not speak again or reflect upon any determination of the House unless intending to conclude with a motion for rescinding it. It is a wholesome restraint upon Members that they cannot revive a debate already concluded, and it would be little use in preventing the same question from being ordered twice in the same session.

Without being offered, its merit might be discussed again and again. I would caution the Members. The matter of the conflict of interest issue has been concluded and for anybody that wishes to bring it up. I would have to make a ruling on whether or not it is appropriate to bring it up again. Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Member's Statement 239-13(6): Conflict Of Interest Exhibit Signed By Ministers

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not know whether it is appropriate then to conclude my Member's statement. It was in conclusion to the transactions in the House yesterday. If you do not feel it is appropriate, I am sorry. I did ask permission before I stood to make this speech today. Thank you.

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Member's Statement 239-13(6): Conflict Of Interest Exhibit Signed By Ministers

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The Speaker

No, if it is in response to what happened yesterday the matter is concluded, Mrs. Groenewegen . Members' statements. Mr. Barnabas .

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Member's Statement 240-13(6): Effects Of Global Warming

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Levi Barnabas

High Arctic

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in 1997, the final report of the Mackenzie Basin Impact Study concluded that the plant and animal life, lakes and rivers, forest industry and communities across the north will face drastic changes in upcoming years if steps are not taken to reduce the effects of global warming. The negative effects of the greenhouse effect are more evident where temperatures have been rising. For example, frozen soil or permafrost is starting to melt or weaken in many areas.

As a result the surface becomes softer and if there is infrastructure such as roads or buildings on top of it, the consequences can be very real. Roads may collapse, buildings and homes will start to sink. As we all are aware, barges are a cost-effective form of resupply that may be compromised. The number of forest fires in the west may most likely increase and drought may also result from low lake levels. This is just the beginning.

With significant changes in the weather in such a short period, the Government of the Northwest Territories and Nunavut need to take preventative and coordinated action at national and international levels to reduce the potential consequences arising from global warming. Unfortunately, according to the aforementioned report, initiatives at the local level may most likely compromise little.

Mr. Speaker, there is a need to make an effective and concentrated effort by both territorial governments and the federal government to bring attention to this impact and important issues that affect all of us. Increased attention and efforts at all levels is needed for the effective strategy to stem the damage from global warming. Mr. Speaker, this statement I make today also reflects the studies that have been done in the high Arctic in my riding, which are affecting the global warming, and the studies will be used to find out if the global warming is really happening. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Member's Statement 240-13(6): Effects Of Global Warming

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The Speaker

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Roland .

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Member's Statement 241-13(6): National Child Day Poster Contest

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Floyd Roland

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am a little late in delivering this, but it is regarding the National Child Day poster contest that I sponsored in Inuvik for November 20th. In celebration of National Child Day, my office held a poster contest last month. The children were asked to draw a poster on what it is like to be a child growing up in Inuvik. The response was overwhelming and my constituency office received 74 entries. The children drew pictures of traditional activities like jigging for fish and caribou hunting. They also drew pictures of roller blading, playing hockey and being a part of the Brownies, playing soccer in the field and playing baseball, just to mention a few.

Miss Cassandra Kirk was a first place winner in the poster contest. Cassandra is a six year old student of Mrs. Ross' grade 1 class at Sir Alexander Mackenzie school in Inuvik. Her parents are Rob James Kirk and Valerie Norris-Kirk. She has two sisters, Jacqueline and Kimberly. Cassandra's best friend is Caitlin, one of the newer students in her class.

It took Cassandra two whole days to draw her poster. She drew the Sir Alexander Mackenzie School and its new playground equipment because she likes playing on the new playground. Cassandra enjoys skating, boating, camping and swimming, but her favourite activity is tobogganing. Cassandra drew the sun and the moon to show the summer sunlight and the winter's darkness. When asked what she prefers, Cassandra answered that she enjoys the winter more because she can do her favourite things like skating and tobogganing. She also drew fireworks from the annual Sunrise Festival in January.

Cassandra and her family will be moving to Norman Wells in January and she is excited, but she will miss all of her friends in Inuvik. I would like to thank Cassandra and all of the children who entered the poster contest because each of the entries that were received were wonderful as we have many talented young artists in Inuvik. I would like also to thank the teachers at Sir Alexander Mackenzie School and the parents who encouraged their children to enter the poster contest. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Member's Statement 241-13(6): National Child Day Poster Contest

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Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Ootes .

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Member's Statement 242-13(6): St. Patrick's Students Against Drunk Driving Program

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Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I would like to bring to Members attention the efforts and accomplishments of St. Patrick High School's program, Students Against Drinking and Driving, a program known as SADD. This program began in November, 1994, and back then they had 12 students as members. Today there are 67 active and dedicated members. Last year the group received an award for the most active SADD

chapter in the western region. Since 1994, the St. Patrick High School SADD program has offered Yellowknife youth healthy alternatives in the form of overnighters, open gym nights, drive parties and educational community events. Members have made presentations to the Rotary Club of Yellowknife, Community of Rae-Edzo and Yellowknife City Council. In November they travelled to Norman Wells to give a presentation about the SADD program. They have also been active in activities such as the National Addiction Awareness Week, Arctic Winter Games, the Fire Department demonstrations and Candy Cane check stops.

Each year members attend the Canadian Youth Against Impaired Driving conference, a national conference held annually in a major Canadian city.

It is important to note that not only do our youth benefit from activities organized by SADD, but the students actively involved in the group develop many leadership skills. St. Patrick's SADD program is also the founder of the 1998 Yellowknife Youth Leadership Awards banquet. They worked together with the Youth Volunteer Corps, Sir John Franklin's SADD program and participants of both high school student councils to organize the leadership awards event. I would like to acknowledge some of the key organizers of the SADD program. Angela Masongsong is the President and teacher advisors, Michelle Thoms and Renee Lamoreux. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Henry .

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Member's Statement 243-13(6): Presentation On Fetal Alcohol Syndrome/fetal Alcohol Effect

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Seamus Henry

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Over the past three years there have been several Members of this Legislative Assembly make statements and ask questions on the issue of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome and Fetal Alcohol Effect. Like myself, colleagues have attempted to raise awareness of this serious affliction, which has affected so many people in the north. Questions have been asked on what can be done to stop this affliction from continuing to spread throughout the population.

Today, Mr. Speaker, I would like to bring to the attention of this House and the public a very important presentation that is to take place this Thursday evening at 7:

30 pm in the auditorium of Northern United Place. On Thursday evening, the public will have an opportunity to hear a presentation and a panel discussion on the subject of FAS/FAE. This event has been arranged through members of the FAS community team, who receive funding from the City of Yellowknife to bring a specialist on FAS to the north to conduct workshops over a period of two days in Yellowknife, as well as to Fort Rae, Lutselk'e, Detah and N'dilo.

I would urge my fellow Members to take the time to attend this presentation on Thursday evening. We must learn all we can on the issue of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome and assist in making progress in reducing that problem. As legislators, we are responsible and accountable to make a difference to the people that we serve. Perhaps this is one area we can look at to learn what we can, especially when we have such a significant opportunity to hear from a learned and respected professional on the subject. I urge all members of the public to come out and learn more on the subject. It affects us all whether directly or not. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Thank you. Members' statement. Mr. Steen .

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Member's Statement 244-13(6): Need For Larger Boats For Harvesting Purposes

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Vince Steen

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as you all know, a dramatic climate change is taking place in the north. This climatic change is known as global warming. The most noticeable effect of global warming is earlier breakups and late freeze-ups. In most cases, people tend to welcome the shorter winter period and longer and hotter summers.

There are also some negative aspects to changing weather patterns. In general, both humans and wildlife have to adjust to these changes. Migrating wildlife such as caribou and water fowl, sea mammals and fish must contend with and adjust to these climatic changes in order to complete their migration to and from the breeding grounds. For example, spring migrating caribou may find their routes to the camping grounds cut off by early breakup of rivers. In the fall their routes to the staging areas will be blocked by large bodies of open water.

Although caribou are excellent swimmers, they tend to avoid swimming when the temperature hovers around the freezing mark. In particular, in the fall. Another example is spring char runs out of the rivers. Char are known to take advantage of the high water levels during breakup in order to reach the sea. As break-up in the rivers arrives earlier, so do the whales arrive sooner than in previous years. Reduced sea ice coverage in the Beaufort will have it's affect on polar bear movements as well.

Mr. Speaker, I think biologists will be very busy in the next few years if they want to record all of the effects of global warming on northern wildlife. Since 99 percent of the people in my riding depend on wildlife for their livelihood, they too must adjust their hunting cycles and strategies to coincide with the changing weather patterns. For example, reductions in snow coverage on land both in spring and fall have served to limit the use of snowmobiles. Where conditions permit, people have adjusted by employing the use of ATVs for a longer period of time. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

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Member's Statement 244-13(6): Need For Larger Boats For Harvesting Purposes

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The Speaker

Thank you. The Member for Nunakput is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Do we have any nays? Mr. Steen , you have unanimous consent.

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Member's Statement 244-13(6): Need For Larger Boats For Harvesting Purposes

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Vince Steen

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you to my colleagues. In coastal areas, extended open water seasons have allowed for more use of boats to access the harvesting grounds. Mr. Speaker, as a government we must continue to monitor the affects of global warming on both our citizens and our wildlife populations. We must ensure our aboriginal people continue to have the ability to harvest wildlife effectively and efficiently. The rewards will be realized through the evidence of a healthy northern population who will continue to enjoy the benefits of higher nutritional country foods regardless of climatic changes. Mr.

Speaker, one of the major negative affects of global warming that is being experienced by wildlife harvesters in coastal communities is due to reduced sea ice coverage in the Beaufort Sea and Amundsen Gulf area. In particular, the residents of the communities of Paulatuk and Holman have expressed an immediate need for larger closed-in boats for the purpose of navigating large bodies of open water, open sea to and from the prime harvesting grounds. Small, open boats, effective and efficient in the past in ice-covered waters, are now considered unsafe for extended hunting journeys.

The options of using float-equipped aircraft to move people and supplies to outpost camps is not available in these communities as there are no planes based in these settlements. Therefore, marine transportation remains the only viable option during summer months.

Mr. Speaker, I know this government has assisted communities in the Baffin and Keewatin to obtain large vessels for harvesting purpose in past years. It would seem only fair that assistance be made available to coastal communities in the Nunakput area. Mr. Speaker, at the appropriate time today, I will be asking the Minister of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development questions pertaining to this matter. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Member's Statement 245-13(6): Constituency Assistant Neil Pascal

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is with great pleasure I recognize Mr. Neil Pascal. Neil spent the last three years in Nunavut, two and a half years in Cambridge Bay as a regional superintendent to personnel. Then, when the government decided to do away with the Department of Personnel, Neil joined the Kitikmeot Health and Social Services Board as manager of personnel. Neil spent the last eight months with the Office of the Interim Commissioner where he assisted the Nunavut government in their staffing requirements for the new public service. I am fortunate to have Neil as my constituency assistant.

Neil is a beneficiary of the Gwich'in land claim. He brings experience in human resource management, and as well, experience working with various aboriginal organizations and groups across the Northwest Territories, as well as in the Yukon. Mr. Speaker, there are people like Neil who will certainly bring credibility to the bureaucracy of our public service. Mr. Speaker, please assist me in welcoming Neil as my new constituency assistant. Welcome back to the west, Neil.

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Member's Statement 246-13(6): Candidacy For Premier Position

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we are going through very difficult times here in the Legislative Assembly. I wanted to see this Conflict of Interest Report dealt with before I decided to consider the position of Premier. After much reflection, Mr. Speaker, and having consulted with my family, my constituents and other MLAs and my friends, I have made the very important decision to let my name stand for the position of Premier for the Northwest Territories. There is support and encouragement from you to seek this important position on our government. For that, I would like to say thank you.

Mr. Speaker, what qualification would I bring to the position of the Premier, you may ask. Experience, perhaps some loyalty, attentiveness, hard work, honour and integrity, Mr. Speaker. My working life in the Northwest Territories has afforded me the privilege and the opportunity to visit all regions and to meet with the broad range of citizens. I possess a firm grasp of issues and challenges facing all northerners, aboriginal and non-aboriginal. I have dedicated and resolved a requirement to tackle different challenges and to encourage positive results. With me, Mr. Speaker, what you see is what you get. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement. Thank you.

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The Member for Nahendeh seeks unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Mr. Antoine , you have unanimous consent.

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to continue where I left off, but I just want to say that with me, what you see is what get. I have no hidden agendas. I have respect for all points of views and resolve to get things done. Officials in our society today must have common objectives, Mr. Speaker.

The chiefs, the Metis presidents, leaders of aboriginal organizations, mayors and respected councils, leaders of Inuit organizations, Interim Commissioner of Nunavut, Members of Legislative Assembly, and certainly, the Premier, must recognize the common objectives they share and dedicate their efforts to work together to achieve the desired results. I believe we must respect the fact that various political institutions in the north are involved in the wide variety of processes and initiatives.

However, we do share common goals. Working together in the spirit of cooperation and respect will ensure that the rest of Canada understands that we know where we want to go and are committed collectively to get there. The time remaining in our term of office here is relatively short, however, it is indeed a very important time for us in the Northwest Territories. I believe we must remain focused, grow through our mistakes, work together, encourage innovation and seize the tremendous opportunities which had been presented. No one can undermine our resolve to succeed if we work together, Mr. Speaker.

By letting my name stand for Premier, I am saying that I know the challenges that lay ahead of us and I have made a commitment here to face any challenges along with everybody here in the Legislative Assembly. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause

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Member's Statement 247-13(6): Public Inquiry Into Residential School Abuses

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Roy Erasmus

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to discuss an inquiry into the residential school abuses in the Northwest Territories. Mr. Speaker, there has been an outpouring of aboriginal people coming forward in recent years with claims of having been abused while in the care of residential schools in the NWT. The issue of abuse in residential schools is not isolated to the NWT, it is a widespread topic of concern throughout Canada and the United States.

Several groups have recommended that a public inquiry be held into the abuse that took place in residential schools saying that a public inquiry would be beneficial for the victims and for the general public of the Northwest Territories. Some of those are the Sir Joseph Bernier Federal Day School, Turquetil Hall Investigation in 1994, the Royal Commission on Aboriginal Peoples in 1996, the NWT Native Women's Association, August, 1998, the Metis Nation of Northwest Territories, September, 1998, and the Law Commission of Canada, October, 1998.

Mr. Speaker, the NWT Public Inquiries Act allows the Commissioner to establish a public inquiry in to any matter of public concern. The Commissioner may appoint one or more persons to a board to carry out the inquiry and to report its findings to the Commissioner. The words of the RCAP final report and inquiry would enable aboriginal people to do what is necessary to stand in dignity, to voice their sorrow and anger and to be listened to with respect. Although a federal public inquiry has been called for, there is an important role for a public inquiry specific to the Northwest Territories.

A national public inquiry could not be expected to devote sufficient time and attention to NWT issues. Its recommendations for action would not take into account the unique nature of the north and its people. Only in the north has a residential school system affected such a large proportion of the population. By hearing the experiences of others, individuals and families affected by residential schools may lose some of their sense of shame and may feel more able to come forward and access the funds that have been made available for healing by the federal government. Mr.

Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

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Roy Erasmus

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A public inquiry would also reflect the importance of the issue and may influence public viewpoints, attitudes and behaviour. A public forum would allow those affected to gain a sense of justice and will give the residents of the Northwest Territories a better understanding of the events and circumstances surrounding NWT residential schools. Of course, this may help to ensure that similar abuses never happen again. Thank you.

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Member's Statement 248-13(6): Rae-edzo Friendship Centre Executive Director

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James Rabesca

North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to announce to this House that the Rae-Edzo Friendship Centre has hired a new executive director to oversee their operations. Bob Richardson is a long-time northerner who has lived in Rae-Edzo for the past 35 years. He brings with him many years of public administration and government experience that will no doubt help him in his new capacity.

Bob started his duties as executive director in December 4, 1998, and is looking forward to seeing the Friendship Centre reviving the open door policy that makes all Friendship Centres a welcome place to come and visit and have a cup of coffee. I am told he has many new ideas that will help bring the Friendship Centre in as a place for all residents. He want residents to come and visit and feel they are at home. Also, he wants everyone to know that the door is always open so, feel free to drop in and have a cup of coffee and delightful conversation. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Members' statements. Mr. Picco .

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Member's Statement 249-13(6): Actions Of The Iqaluit Emergency Measures Organizations

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Edward Picco

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this past week was very hectic for the EMO and Fire Department people in Iqaluit. On Friday, there was a plane crash and Sunday there was a major fire at some new construction in town. There were some burn injuries to some of the children as a result of that fire. Mr. Speaker, the fire resulted with the power, phone and cable lines being disrupted. The power was quickly restored in about three hours after the fire and I understand that cable TV was back up yesterday.

However, Mr. Speaker, phone service to most of Happy Valley and all of Tundra Valley and Apex is still not available. Mr. Speaker, as a result, Joamie School in Tundra Valley and Nanook School and Apex were closed yesterday. Because they had no phones, it was felt that it might put the children in jeopardy if phone service was not in place. EMO in Iqaluit have today provided two-way communications for both Nanook and Joamie School and have placed their command bus in Apex for communications with Iqaluit. The command bus was donated by one of the long serving EMO people in Iqaluit, Mr. Bob Hanson.

It was outfitted with telecommunications and other necessary equipment by donations from Iqaluit businesses. Mr. Speaker, the command bus is being monitored by the EMO staff and they will continue to have it in place in Apex until phone service is restored. I understand that NorthwesTel has brought in extra resources to deal with this problem and have been working around the clock to have the service restored.

Mr. Speaker, Mr. Mike Ferris, the EMO coordinator for the Baffin, and his capable staff are to be congratulated for the work they have done over the past few days. Also, the volunteers at the fire department, staff at NorthwesTel, NTPC, and the cable TV staff. Mr. Speaker, I have not been able to speak to my children since this weekend because of the phone service outage. I would like to take this opportunity to say hi to my wife and kids back home in Iqaluit and say well done. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Member's Statement 250-13(6): Reflections On Matters To Be Considered By The Legislature

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the past two weeks have been difficult: difficult for our constituents, for the civil service, for ourselves and for our families. Through this, all of us in this Assembly, I think, have taken lessons learned and wish to move forward to the end of a chapter; let us turn the page and move on. We have already taken an important first step, Mr.

Speaker, setting up an independent review panel to make recommendations for changes to our conflict of interest legislation and regulated policies and guidelines will help everyone understand that we really are prepared to make change; change that should help to ensure more open and transparent government. Mr. Speaker, let us leave that issue for now. The panel can get to work and do its job and then we need to move quickly to debate the changes they recommend.

As many have said, we must get on with the work that needs to be done in this next year. Time is running short. We must get on with the final preparations for the creation of two new territories. We must set the stage for a renewed, less dependent fiscal relationship with the federal government. We must continue to work towards the settling of land claims and the conclusion of self-government negotiations with claimant organizations and the federal government. Mr. Speaker, we must ensure that the resources for social programs are adequate to meet the needs of northerners.

Mr. Speaker, stability in this Assembly and the government is absolutely essential if we are to get on with this work. A stable, responsible government sends a message to banks and investors that they can be confident and remain willing to invest in northern business. The next important step on the road to stability, Mr. Speaker, takes place this Thursday when we choose a new Premier. It will be important for us to get behind whoever is selected and demonstrate support and solidarity.

Mr. Speaker, I have had many constituents tell me that they would like to see me put my name forward for the Premier's position. I have had a number of MLAs suggest the same. I have truly appreciated these expressions of support.

Mr. Speaker, while flattered by the attention, I have decided not to allow my name to be considered at this time. I look forward to the speeches and questions on Thursday and wish both announced candidates well; I have worked with both Mr. Kakfwi and Mr. Antoine for the last seven years and I am sure we can look forward to continuing a good working relationship.

Mr. Speaker, while I will support the successful candidate on this Thursday, I will give fair notice that following the next election, Mr. Speaker, should my constituents return me to the House, that I may again take another look at the top job.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause

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Member's Statement 251-13(6): St. Patrick's Interschool Hockey Tournament Victory

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Rarely do I make Members' statements, Mr. Speaker, and I just have a small statement that I would like to make today. I hope it does not embarrass my boy. The St. Pat's hockey team, Mr. Speaker, travelled to Hay River this weekend for an interschool tournament with various schools across the NWT. I would, first of all, like to extend my appreciation for the hospitality by the people of Hay River for the teams that were there. I am also pleased to say that St. Pat's won all the games, Mr. Speaker, and of course, the tournament. Why am I making this statement?

I am making this statement because my boy, Justin, plays for St. Pat's and in the first game against Fort Smith, he scored three goals, was the MVP, and frankly, Mr. Speaker, in this particular time in my life, it makes me feel proud to be able to talk about the accomplishments of the team and, of course, the contribution of my boy, Justin. Thank you.

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Return To Oral Question 204-13(6): Formula Funding For Rae-edzo

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Manitok Thompson

Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to oral question asked by Mr. Rabesca on November 10, 1998, formula funding for Rae-Edzo. In recognition of the unique situation in Rae-Edzo, the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs has provided the community with additional funding. Detailed information on this matter has been provided to Mr. Rabesca , MLA for North Slave, as he requested. Thank you.

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Thank you. Returns to Oral Questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Evaloarjuk .

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Question 271-13(6): Community Nursing Services

Item 6: Oral Questions

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Mark Evaloarjuk

Amittuq

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question will be directed to the Minister of Health and Social Services . For a number of months past, possibly closer to a year, the Mayor of Igloolik had written correspondence to the Minister concerning health and social services and what the policies are regarding programs. I wrote to the Minister myself, requesting that he make a response to the Mayor of Igloolik. I am wondering if the Minister will be able to respond either to myself or the hamlet, prior to the end of this session. I am assuming that the Minister understands my request because I

did give him a letter earlier this month. Thank you. (Translation ends.)

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Minister of Health and Social Services , Mr. Ng .

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I thank the Member for the question. I was aware of the issue that he had raised. Quite frankly, what had happened, from my recollection, is that the Hamlet of Igloolik requested, I believe, the transfer of the social worker position to the community. We had requested the Baffin Regional Health and Social Services Board to find out the status of what was happening in that respect. We have not received an answer yet, but I will commit to the Member on following up on that matter before the end of this week. Thank you.

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Thank you. Oral questions. Do you have a supplementary, Mr. Evaloarjuk ?

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Supplementary To Question 271-13(6): Community Nursing Services

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Mark Evaloarjuk

Amittuq

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think the Minister has misunderstood my question. I was talking about policies concerning ratio and the number of nursing staff required in the communities. That was the policy that I was asking about and I think he will remember that correspondence. Thank you. (Translation ends.)

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I apologize to the Member for misinterpreting the issue that he was referring to. There has been, as I have indicated in the past, no set ratio or policy in respect to the ratio of staff to residents of a community. We know that the deployment of the resources is currently within the mandate of the Regional Health boards. Recognizing that at the time of the health transfer from the federal government in 1988, the existing resources in communities were the amounts that were transferred to this government and have been kept intact since that time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Mark Evaloarjuk

Amittuq

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to thank the Minister for his response but I would also like to see his response in writing. I will thank the Minister in advance and let him know that there is more of an adequate number of staff in Igloolik right now, as it is. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Translation ends.)

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Thank you. I did not hear a question. Oral questions. Mr. Barnabas .

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Question 272-13(6): Global Warming Initiatives

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 592

Levi Barnabas

High Arctic

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As per my Member's statement, I would like to direct my question to the Minister responsible for the environment, Mr. Kakfwi . What ongoing efforts has the government undertaken to aid the reduction of global warming at regional, national and international levels? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Minister of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development , Mr. Kakfwi .

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to give a 15-minute response, much to my Member's chagrin.

--Laughter

We have made a commitment, the Canadian government has made a commitment, and we are now working with the federal government and the provinces to develop a process by which we will develop a strategy to try to reach that target. We are also doing some work to define the economic impact that such a strategy would have on our communities and our economy, as well, the cost of undertaking such a strategy.

Here in the territories, we have done a number of things. We, for instance, have continued to work to improve the energy efficiency of all our buildings or houses. We have set up an energy alliance using the Power Corporation, municipalities, the Government of the Northwest Territories and other stakeholders, to look at ways in which we could reduce the amount of energy consumption and increase the energy efficiency of our buildings and our programs.

We have an energy conservation capital program, which has been in existence for a number of years, that is available for individuals, communities and organizations to apply for. They can ask for capital money where they can show that it will result in a reduction of energy consumption and where it will improve on the energy efficiency of particular buildings. This is open to the private sector as well as broader-based community organizations.

These are some of the initiatives; of course, we have the user-pay programs that the government has initiated where everyone, even tenants, as well as the government departments, have to be conscious of how they use their buildings, electricity and heating. User-pay makes us more conscious of how much we are consuming as clients within our own departments and buildings. Those are some of the examples I can give. Thank you.

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Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr.

Barnabas.

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Levi Barnabas

High Arctic

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, have there been any studies done on permafrost? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, permafrost is one characteristic of our ecosystem up here that is unique and one that is considered extremely sensitive by everyone concerned. We have a number of studies that are ongoing, some of them on a national level; it looks like, in particular, sensitivities of permafrost in regard to climate change and temperature fluctuations. I would be pleased to provide Members with a

summary of the most recent studies completed and in progress regarding permafrost and the impact, particularly the impact that global warming will have on permafrost in the north. Thank you.

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Levi Barnabas

High Arctic

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, last spring during my whale hunt with my colleagues in Arctic Bay, we noticed that there are significant changes to the ice, really thin ice. The ice went pretty fast in our area. I noticed on a documentary on television that there have been studies on the ice. A ship called Sheeba was studying in the high Arctic areas, in the western Arctic area. Can the Minister give the Members the results on the study of the ice? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I would be pleased to locate the particular information and study that the Member is referring to and share it with the Members. Thank you.

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At this time I would like to recognize in the gallery a former Member, Mr. Ernie Bernhardt.

--Applause

Welcome to the Assembly. Oral questions. Mr. Miltenberger .

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is addressed to the Acting Premier. Yesterday in the House, we passed a motion that one of the components of it was to strike an independent review committee. I would like to ask the Acting Premier if he could indicate what the relationship is going to be with the committee of deputies that has been struck prior to yesterday that was going to look at some similar and related issues and if you could outline the connection and how they would together to a positive end? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Acting Premier, Mr. Arlooktoo .

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Goo Arlooktoo

Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I had indicated last week, the intention of getting the deputy ministers together to look at the report was to ensure that the government, in every possible way, reacted positively to the many recommendations and comments to the report. I have since heard Members have some reservation on possibly the credibility of this committee and I am sensitive to that. I have asked the secretary to Cabinet to keep that in mind and the work that they are undertaking to not interfere in any way with the processes that have been started here in this House.

We are also sensitive to the perception by the public and the MLAs that, that process remain as credible as possible. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It would seem that the issue would be not only the one of possibly interfering with each other, but, in fact, being able to feed in to each others' efforts and to ensure, that possibly they complement each other, so that at the end of the day when the final report is brought to the House that it reflects not only the work of possibly this independent committee, but this separate deputies committee as well. Could the Acting Premier indicate whether he would, in fact, consider that sort of proactive step to make sure that, in fact, they are linked and working together? Thank you.

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Thank you. I must rule the question out of order. It is a matter for MSB not the Acting Premier. Oral questions. Mr. Steen .

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Question 274-13(6): Impact Of Climate Change On Wildlife

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Vince Steen

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is directed to the honourable Mr. Kakfwi , Minister of RWED , in regard to my Member's statement, as Mr. Barnabas referred to global warming and how it is affecting the people, the ability to harvest in relation to changing migration patterns of the wildlife. My question to the Minister, Mr. Speaker, is, is the department monitoring these changes and the effects that the climate changes are having on the wildlife? At this point in time, is there any major effort on the part of the department to monitor these changes? Thank you?

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There is a coordinated effort between federal officials and our government officials both in the laboratories, field studies, as well as our wildlife officers and biologists, to monitor the status of our wildlife species. It is their attention that any changes in global warming will impact on the vegetation and the migration routes and other habits of the different species. There has been notable changes among some species. Of course, we make the observations but are not always able to say we are backed by scientific study. We know that global warming is happening.

The people know global warming is happening. We just do not have a solid scientific basis yet to say that it is, in fact, an observation or a conclusion based on an accumulation of science and an organized body of science. Yes, we are trying to keep an eye on the impact that it is going to have on our wildlife and we are aware of the implications of it. Thank you.

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Vince Steen

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my follow-up questions would be, does the department have some kind of programs in place either through economic development or renewable resources, harvesting assistance programs in place that would assist people to adjust to global warming and the effect it is having on their ability to harvest? In particular, I am referring to, Mr. Speaker, conditions in the Beaufort Sea where there is no more ice compared to previous years where there was a lot of ice coverage. My follow-up question is, are there any programs in place that the department could assist these people? Thank you.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, this government has been a very strong supporter of aboriginal peoples livelihood, particularly out in the land, hunting and trapping. It seems to be more than just an economic activity. It is the means by which we know that our aboriginal peoples will best maintain their culture and their economic independence to be very particular about the kind of industrial activity they will allow on their land. It is our government's intention to do everything we can to support the continued use and access that aboriginal people must have to live off the resources of the land, to harvest the wildlife.

If there are changes brought on by climate change that are having a negative impact on the access and ability of our peoples, then it will be our intention to change our programs, adopt our programs to assist people to ensure that they do not suffer because of the impact of climate change that is becoming a reality right now. Thank you.

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Vince Steen

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I think this government should take the lead in possibly identifying the negative affects of global warming on people's ability to harvest. One form of taking the lead would be some kind of assurance from the department that the officials of the department will discuss these needs with the communities at the community level. Could I have the Minister's assurance that someone from his department would discuss these needs with the communities within the near future? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think the Member brings up an excellent suggestion. One, we are obliged to do and one I think should serve to reassure people at the community level, that we are there primarily to assist them to continue the relationship that they have and the access that they have to harvest wildlife and continue their way of life. I would be very pleased to provide that direction to the department. Thank you.

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Edward Picco

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There has been some concern raised over the last couple of weeks at home in Iqaluit concerning a large gathering of about 300 people from across Nunavut and the north attending a religious festival that, indeed, there was a case of active tuberculosis. I am wondering what type of processes are in place from the Department of Health to allay some of the fears that have been generated because of this and indeed what type of process has been in place from the Department of Health. My question is for the Minister of Health . Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, when it was first learned of the incidence of the circumstances surrounding the possibilities of TB, the health protection unit from the department went to Iqaluit to meet with the Baffin Regional Health and Social Services personnel that were involved in that whole process. They have since stepped up the TB surveillance in the region. They are tracking down some of the individuals that were involved at the gathering. They started community screening in all Baffin communities for TB. Thank you.

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Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, just to help allay some of the fears concerning this issue, would the Minister

be able to say that, indeed, things are well in hand and that people have nothing really to fear, that the Department of Health is on top of the matter? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yes, the Department of Health and the Baffin Regional Health and Social Services Board has been working closely right from the start in dealing with this matter. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, would it be possible for the Minister of Health or his department or through some communications with the Baffin Regional Health Board in Iqaluit to put out a press release or at least keep the public informed as to the developments around this issue?

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we can take a look at what we are going to do in that matter. Thank you.

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Question 276-13(6): Limit On GNWT Guarantees

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 595

Seamus Henry

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is to the Minister responsible for the FMBS, Mr. Todd , in the area of the P3 initiatives and also guarantees that this government make. Mr. Speaker, I believe that we have as the Legislature in place, to ensure that a figure of not more than 15 percent of gross revenues of the GNWT can be placed in the form of guarantees. We have placed guarantees for many endeavours that the government saw as worthy of government support.

The GNWT has presently a budget of collectively $1.2 million and on April 1, 1999, that will be reduced in the west to approximately $700 million. My question to the Minister is, at division will the guarantees in place in the west still remain within the 15 percent of the revenue figure? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would have to double-check, but I would think that there would be 15 percent of the total revenue of the new Western Territory. I had better double-check with Mr. Voytilla, but it would seem to me to make sense that is what would occur. I know that they have got some of those checks and balances in there to ensure that this government and future governments do not get in over their head, as they say, financially. Certainly, in keeping with the approach that we have taken for all the division issues, we would have to separate that out. I will double-check with Mr. Voytilla and confirm with my colleague tomorrow.

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Seamus Henry

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yes, I think that is important information and I would await the Minister's response to it. My second question is, Mr. Speaker, is the figure of 15 percent cumulative? Thank you.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

I do not have the answer to that question, Mr. Speaker, I have to be candid, so I will take the question as notice and report back to my honourable colleague tomorrow afternoon.

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Question 277-13(6): Status Of Nunavut P3 Projects

Item 6: Oral Questions

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Kevin O'Brien

Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is to Mr. Todd , the Minister responsible for FMBS. I wonder if Mr. Todd could give the House a status report of the P3 projects that are under way in Nunavut?

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there are, I think, two active projects right now. Three, my colleague says. I believe one in Cambridge Bay, one in Arviat, four actually, my apologies, I am just trying to get my numbers right because they are all at different stages, so maybe I will just take one at a time. Let us use the Arviat one first, because that being my own riding the concern of my colleague is understandable. The Arviat Medical Centre is out for, I believe, RFP, right now. There are a number of firms apparently interested in doing that. I am not quite sure exactly when that closes.

I know that there is an effort right now to try and get that done early in the new year. There is an RFQ out on the Cambridge Bay medical facility, that is at the RFQ level, and that is to determine who is going to do the architectural work, et cetera. The medical facility in Iqaluit, Cambridge Bay, I do not know why I have lost track. Maybe I should start again. I am sorry. There are four projects, let me try again. Pardon me. I had a phone call and I lost track of what I was saying.

There are four projects, Mr. Speaker, out there. The one in Arviat is currently at the RFP stage. The one in Cambridge Bay is at the RFQ stage. The ones in Iqaluit and Rankin Inlet still have not got to either of those stages, as they are trying to complete the plan with the health boards and with the Department of Health so they can then move to the RFQ and RFP stage. Thank you.

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Kevin O'Brien

Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wonder for the benefit of the public and Members of this House if Mr. Todd would give us the official definition of an RFP and RFQ.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

An RFQ is where we request, where we advertise for a particular project and we ask individuals or organizations or companies that are interested in bidding on this particular project. There is a criteria set and a management team determines who has the capability, who has interest, et cetera. They then determine a short list because there is a significant cost to the developer and that short list then moves to RFP, which is a Request for Proposal. A Request for Proposal is similar, as we have said on a number of occasions, to a tender, but gives some flexibility to the private sector to provide some innovative ways in which the particular project can move forward. Thank you.

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Kevin O'Brien

Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wonder if the Minister could give me some details or actually what the process is after the RFP is concluded? Thank you.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, once the RFP is concluded then the committee, made up of a variety of department people, will then decide on who is the successful proponent based upon whatever the criteria is, cost, ownership, design, et cetera. There is a list of criteria that proponents have to meet. They would then make that decision at the departmental level and move onward and award the contract. Thank you.

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Kevin O'Brien

Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wonder if the Minister could confirm what the dollar amounts are, roughly, at this point in time in relation to the Arviat project, the Cambridge Bay project, and the Rankin Inlet project, and also if the Interim Commissioner's Office has signed off on these particular projects? Thank you.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, just to round it off in the millions, it is easier that way, I believe the Arviat project is somewhere in the range of $4 million, the Cambridge Bay project is somewhere in the range of $9 million, the Rankin Inlet one somewhere in the range of $11.8 to 12 million, and the Iqaluit project somewhere in the range of $31 to 32 million. Thank you.

Pardon me, on the issue of the Interim Commissioner, we have been working very closely with the Interim Commissioner's Office and I think there is, now I cannot speak on his behalf, but I believe there is a recognition by his office and by the staff of the future Nunavut Government that P3 projects are important and a way in which we can get public infrastructure built, and I believe they are now partners, if you want, in the decision-making process on the RFP and RFQ process. They are now a partner in that. Thank you.

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Question 278-13(6): Canadian Teacher Shortage

Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question will be for Mr. Dent , Minister of Education, Culture and Employment . I referred in my statement yesterday to the pressures that are placed on our front line professionals, teachers and nurses. Recently, the Canadian teachers' leaders were predicting there would be a teacher shortage in Canada. There was an

article in the Globe and Mail, apparently, that predicted a tremendous shortage in Ontario, as well as areas such as New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. The comment, of course, that they are addressing is that there will be a great supply and demand gap looming fairly shortly. My question for the Minister is, has the Minister addressed the implications of this potential shortage here for the Northwest Territories?

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, one of the ways in which we are addressing the potential of any shortage of teachers is to improve our ability to train northerners to become teachers. As Members of this House will no doubt remember, I announced earlier this year an initiative which would focus on teacher education programs at the community level, particularly in the western NWT, which hopefully will lead to many more northern teachers in the course of the next three years. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wonder if the Minister could tell us if the enrolment in the Teacher Education Programs, both here and in Nunavut, will meet anywhere the need for the projected shortcomings? Thank you.

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I cannot say whether or not we will be able to meet any future shortfalls in the numbers of teachers available to teach in the Northwest Territories. To date we have not seen any problems with the numbers of applicants and we will have to monitor the statistics across Canada, in terms of available candidates, and see what develops. We have taken a very proactive approach in training northerners to be teachers and I think that, in the long run, that will be the best solution. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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