Debates of Oct. 28th, 2016

This is page numbers 1221 – 1250 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was power .

Topics

Oral Questions

Members Present

Prayer

Reporting On The Public Service

Private And Public Partnerships

Premier Absent From The House

Energy Efficiency Initiatives In Jean Marie River

Role And Vision For Northwest Territories Power Corporation

Incentives For Certificate Of Recognition (Cor) Certification

Sahtu Winter Road Construction And Maintenance

Northwest Territories Housing Corporation Care Program

Importance Of Land-Based Programs

Daughters Of The Vote Celebration 2017

Early Childhood Development Challenges Related To Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder

2016 Aboriginal Entrepreneurship Award Recipient Garth Wallbridge

Hay River Chase The Ace Fundraiser

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

NTPC Vision And Strategy For Public Consultation

Additional Resources For Junior Kindergarten Implementation

Power Generation Options For Small Communities

Take A Kid Trapping Program

Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder Prevention And Supports

Sahtu Winter Road Construction And Maintenance

Repayment Of Inherited Care Program Debt

Safe Advantage Program Premium Reductions

Northwest Territories Power Corporation Strategic Plan Development

Programs To Support Traditional Economy

Affordable Power In The Northwest Territories

Limits On Alternative Power Generation In Thermal Communities

Tabled Document 200-18(2): Serving Our People: The NWT Public Service Report 2015

Tabled Document 202-18(2): Workers' Safety And Compensation Commission Annual Report 2015 Northwest Territories And Nunavut

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Concurrence Of Tabled Document 199-18(2): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2016-2017

Concurrence Of Tabled Document 198-18(2): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2016-2017

Report of Committee of the Whole

Orders of the Day

Members Present

Hon. Glen Abernethy , Mr. Beaulieu , Mr. Blake , Hon. Caroline Cochrane , Ms. Green , Hon. Robert McLeod , Mr. McNeely , Hon. Alfred Moses , Mr. Nadli , Mr. Nakimayak , Mr. O'Reilly , Hon. Wally Schumann , Hon. Louis Sebert , Mr. Simpson , Mr. Testart , Mr. Thompson , Mr. Vanthuyne

The House met at 10:00 a.m.

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Prayer

Prayer

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Good morning, colleagues. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Minister of Human Resources .

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Minister's Statement 98-18(2): Reporting On The Public Service

Ministers’ Statements

Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to take this opportunity to update the Members of this Assembly on the status of the NWT Public Service. The Department of Human Resources reports on the public service using various mechanisms, including the 20/20 Strategic Plan Results Reports, the Employee Engagement and Satisfaction Survey Results, and the Public Service Annual Report, to name a few.

Later today I will table the 2015 Public Service Annual Report. I want to take this opportunity to tell Members about improvements to this report and efforts to increase transparency and accountability of public service salaries. Mr. Speaker, the 2015 Public Service Annual Report provides information on the management, composition and development of the public service, and highlights some significant achievements from 2015.

The 2015 version of the Public Service Annual Report has been streamlined in comparison to previous years. A significant component of this redesign has been ensuring important information and data it contains about the public service is presented as clearly as possible. The Department of Human Resources is modernizing the report to ensure the report focuses on citizens. These changes will ensure the information is presented in a way that will have meaning to the public.

In the coming years, the report will be tabled in the House using a fiscal year reporting cycle instead of the calendar year. This will better align the report

with Government of the Northwest Territories reporting cycles. Additionally, reporting on the fiscal year will help readers make a stronger connection with what is being reported and what they have experienced over the past year. Mr. Speaker, the GNWT is committed to transparency and to providing the public with information about how public money is being spent to maintain the public service.

Mr. Speaker, I would also like to update the House on a matter concerning the transparency and accountability of the public service. The GNWT is committed to transparency and to providing the public with information about how public money is being spent to maintain the public service. Currently, salary grids for unionized, excluded, senior management and deputy head employees are available on the Department of Human Resources’ website. These salary grids provide the salary ranges for all of our positions.

In an effort to increase transparency, in mid-November, the Department of Human Resources will begin to make organizational charts, job descriptions, and salary ranges publicly accessible on the department website. Exact salaries will not be disclosed; rather, the salary range of positions will be released. This is an important step towards greater transparency for public service salaries, while still ensuring that there is no invasion of personal privacy under the Access to Information and Protection of Privacy Act.

Mr. Speaker, the Government of the Northwest Territories is an engaged and highly motivated public service that provides quality programs and services for residents of the NWT. The dedication and commitment of public servants to their communities is an important part of what makes the GNWT a great place to work and an employer of choice.

I believe I am not alone in the belief that NWT public servants play a very important role in what makes the NWT a great place to live. I want to take this opportunity to make certain that all public servants know that we do not take their contributions for granted. As the Minister of Human Resources , I take great pride in this government’s commitment to its public servants. I am proud that this government has consistently been recognized as one of the top employers in Canada for diversity. I am proud of the fact that GNWT employees are, on average, among the highest paid public servants in Canada.

I am proud of the benefits, like health care and 24-hour access to our Employee and Family Assistance Program, that contribute to our employees’ well-being. I am proud of the generous leave package, the northern living allowance, and the five paid days off at Christmas time that allow our employees to live balanced lives.

Mr. Speaker, as the work of the 18th Legislative Assembly continues, the public service continues to work hard to support the priorities of this House. I am confident that, with such a dedicated public service, we will make great progress in the months and years to come. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 98-18(2): Reporting On The Public Service

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Ministers' statements. Minister of Transportation .

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Minister's Statement 99-18(2): Private And Public Partnerships

Ministers’ Statements

Wally Schumann

Hay River South

Mr. Speaker, the Department of Transportation is committed to working with public and private sector partners to continue to improve transportation infrastructure across the Northwest Territories under the mandate of the 18th Legislative Assembly. Our government strongly believes in working collaboratively with various levels of government, from Aboriginal and municipal authorities to the federal government, as well as our private sector partners.

Mr. Speaker, it is important to strengthen our partnership with Canada by ensuring that the priorities and challenges of our territory are being recognized. Infrastructure improvements result in economic and social benefits for Northerners and all Canadians, and the Department of Transportation is committed to identifying new opportunities to increase investment in the NWT transportation system, in collaboration with our federal counterparts.

Mr. Speaker, our collaboration with the federal government has allowed us to make several improvements this year to nearly every one of our highways and to several of our airports across the territory. These investments wouldn’t have been possible without the New Building Canada Plan, which has given us the opportunity to invest in core transportation infrastructure to support economic growth, job creation, increased productivity, and an enhanced quality of life in communities across the NWT. The Inuvik to Tuktoyaktuk Highway is another example of successful cooperation with our federal partners. Without Canada’s $200 million contribution, the project simply would not be happening.

With the project entering its final year of construction, an Opening Ceremony Stakeholder Working Group has been established as we work toward the opening of the highway, set for November 2017. The working group is made up of representatives from Inuvik, Tuktoyaktuk, the Inuvialuit Community Economic Development Organization, the Inuvialuit Regional Corporation, and a number of Government of the Northwest Territories departments.

Working with various Aboriginal governments in the territory is also a major priority for our government, and indeed, for the Department of Transportation. The Tlicho Government has consistently been a valued partner in advancing one of the strategic projects for our territory: the Tlicho all-season road. We also appreciate the relentless support provided by the Sahtu Secretariat’s Mackenzie Valley Working Group, helping us advocate and move forward the construction of the Wrigley to Norman Wells portion of the Mackenzie Valley Highway.

Mr. Speaker, I would also like to talk about the work that we are doing with a number of partners to improve road access into the Slave Geological Province. A detailed analysis of optimal routing options was carried out by the Departments of Industry, Tourism and Investment and Transportation using a mapping tool developed by Aurora Geosciences Limited. As a result of this partnership, a route that will provide the greatest economic benefit has been chosen for the project. The Government of the Northwest Territories is now assessing the P3 potential of building an all-weather road along this route through the Slave Geological Province.

The Department of Transportation is teaming up with the Departments of Finance and Industry, Tourism and Investment to develop a P3 business case assessment for the route, and we look forward to working closely with representatives of the diamond mines to advance this project.

Mr. Speaker, our government is not only committed to building a safe, secure and efficient transportation system. We are also committed to working with our partners to study the effects of climate change on transportation infrastructure and permafrost.

Mr. Speaker, I would also like to provide an update today on our government’s efforts to work with the private sector and the federal government to restore safe marine operating conditions in Hay River. We continue to work with the Harbour Restoration Working Group, which is led by the Hay River Harbour Authority, with participation from a number of organizations, including the NWT Fishermen’s Federation, Small Craft Harbours, the Canadian Coast Guard, and the Department of Fisheries and Oceans.

I am pleased to announce that progress has been made on this issue. In May, the Canadian Air Force used a CP-140 surveillance aircraft to record aerial photographs over the Hay River Harbour. In June, the Department of Fisheries and Oceans conducted a technical review of the harbour infrastructure. All of this information is being used to define what exactly we need to do to address the immediate safety concerns of the Harbour Authority. We will continue to work with our partners to secure federal funding for rehabilitation of this important harbour.

Mr. Speaker, the Department of Transportation is committed to strengthening connections with its partners to improve the NWT's transportation system to improve safety for the travelling public, lower the cost of living, adapt to the effects of climate change, and support economic opportunities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 99-18(2): Private And Public Partnerships

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Ministers' statements. Deputy Premier .

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Minister's Statement 100-18(2): Premier Absent From The House

Ministers’ Statements

Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wish to advise Members that the Honourable Bob McLeod will be absent from the House today to attend the state memorial service for the late Jim Prentice in Calgary, Alberta. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 100-18(2): Premier Absent From The House

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The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Member for Nahendeh .

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Energy Efficiency Initiatives In Jean Marie River

Members’ Statements

Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I would like to speak about what the community of Jean Marie First Nations has done recently. This small community has really taken the initiative to become more energy efficient. The community has constructed a solar panel installation at the water treatment plant. This solar panel installation will generate approximately six kilowatt hours, which will offset 15 per cent of the plant's power consumption.

Mr. Speaker, the community was very excited about installing new solar panels to provide power to the water treatment plant. During the installation, the community was informed that there was both money and the capacity to install 44 panels instead of the 24 that they presently had installed. The community was informed that the Power Corporation would only authorize a maximum generation output of at least 20 per cent per community from solar so as to ensure their use of the plant operation. Upon hearing this, the community and I did not see this as a fair and reasonable idea.

This would seem to be contradictory to the intent and purpose of having solar power available. To the community and myself, solar power is a perfect avenue to reduce the cost of diesel fuel.

Mr. Speaker, even with this fact the community completed the project. As well, the community work with Arctic Energy Alliance to come up with a more efficient way of lighting their buildings. Mr. Speaker, I am proud to say that the community was able to retrofit seven buildings with LED lights. This will help the community save money for the residents and the band. Mr. Speaker, with these two initiatives in place the community and Arctic Energy Alliance held a parade with an ice cream party to celebrate the retrofit and solar panels installed.

This small community is taking the initiative to become more energy efficient with the help of Arctic Energy Alliance. Later on, Mr. Speaker, I will have questions for the Minister responsible for the Power Corporation . Thank you Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member for Yellowknife North .

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Role And Vision For Northwest Territories Power Corporation

Members’ Statements

Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, for many years the Northwest Territories has needed an overall guiding plan for generating and distributing electrical power. At a public meeting on October 26th, the Minister responsible for the Northwest Territories Power Corporation , who is also the Minister responsible for Transparency and Public Engagement , missed an opportunity. He had a chance to share with MLAs, and the people of the NWT, the government's broad vision for NTPC.

An overarching vision is what is needed, Mr. Speaker. But what we heard was a technical presentation justifying NTPC's claim that it is not overcharging customers. Mr. Speaker, it is important to understand why we pay what we pay for power, but we also need to understand the bigger picture.

A vision for our power system should guide government as we consider the major challenges that face us. The vision must tell us: is NTPC's role to partner with other governments or the private sector? Is it to compete against the private sector? Or is NTPC going to be a monopoly, the only game in town? Mr. Speaker, I know that the new NWT Energy Plan is going to answer some of these questions, but clearly the government has already adopted certain assumptions. Otherwise, decisions like bidding on the Hay River power franchise or engaging in talks with SaskPower would not have already been made.

Mr. Speaker, the plan needs to be open and transparent, and it hasn't been. We don't know the underlying assumptions being made by the Power Corporation. The public is looking to us for leadership. No family, community or business should pay more than is necessary. No one should feel like they're paying more than their fair share. We have a responsibility to set a direction that is in the best interest of everyone, and not let rate payers be used as pawns in games that serve some unknown agenda.

Mr. Speaker, as a Crown Corporation owned by Northerners, NTPC must clearly state its mission and vision: what it is, where it is going and how it will get there. Later, I will have questions for the Minister Responsible for the Power Corporation . Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Role And Vision For Northwest Territories Power Corporation

Members’ Statements

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member for Frame Lake .

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Incentives For Certificate Of Recognition (Cor) Certification

Members’ Statements

Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Merci, monsieur le President. Mr. Speaker, I'll share a few observations today on the costs to small businesses of ensuring safe workplaces. First a bit of good news. Members may be aware of COR, or the Certificate of Recognition of safety through the NWT Construction Association. It's the occupational health and safety accreditation program that verifies a fully implemented safety and health program meeting national standards, and it's also independently audited. Even though it's voluntary, many NWT businesses have embraced COR certification and risen to meeting those standards.

Following up on a constituent inquiry, I contacted the Minister of Public Works and Services to see whether, when procuring services, points might be awarded in the tender evaluations to firms who have COR certification in place. This would be a kind of financial carrot to recognize the extra costs in meeting the heightened safety standards of COR, and in the best interest of promoting safe workplaces. The Minister replied to say the department is indeed looking at the possibility of building safety certification requirements into tendering processes. So that's good news and supportive of the safety initiative of contractors.

While this is good news from the Minister of Public Works and Services , the Worker's Safety and Compensation Commission seems to be working at cross-purposes when it comes to small businesses. Currently, there is a program called Safe Advantage which will refund a portion of premiums to businesses on the basis of good safety records. However, this refund program is only open to employers whose last three years of premium assessments was $40,000, and where continuing premiums remain above $32,000. In replying to my question on this, the Minister responsible for WSCC pointed out that a recent review of Safe Advantage did not make a recommendation to roll out the refunds to all employers.

Some program supports were created to assist businesses with fewer than 20 employees that are not required to develop a formal Occupational Health and Safety Program. Those are good measures, but still, no refund of premiums or real financial incentives for safety in the workplace. COR certification provides an off-the-shelf, internationally recognized set of standards and competencies smaller firms can use to set up high-quality safety programs. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. In the end, that's the sort of incentive that we need, COR certification and some sort of off-setting of fees through the WSCC. But safety does have a cost, and a premium refund to businesses who set up COR, no matter what the size, would be a good inducement. I urge all the Ministers to develop a coordinated approach to promote safety in the workplaces for small business. I'll have questions later today for the Minister responsible for WSCC . Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member for Sahtu .

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Sahtu Winter Road Construction And Maintenance

Members’ Statements

Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Once again, as we look outside, the snow is here and the winter road is coming for the Sahtu region. Mr. Speaker, my Member's statement today is on the upcoming annual winter road construction and maintenance season, which totals a coverage area of 670 kilometres.

The residents of Sahtu region look forward to this project for a variety of reasons. I guess the highest on the list would be taken out of isolation and access to the outside world, and also the construction and maintenance opportunities and employment that it brings. Also just the opportunity and freedom of going out visiting family and friends in other communities and within the Sahtu communities as well, as well as the ability to go out and get cheaper energy, meaning firewood.

In preparation for these opportunities it presents and knowing the physical position of our government, later I will have questions to the Minister of Transportation on staffing and operations. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Northwest Territories Housing Corporation Care Program

Members’ Statements

Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, I want the Housing Corporation to know that this program is very helpful in our communities, but that doesn't mean that there's no room for improvement. Complex and inflexible rules are seeing elders' debts to the Housing Corporation passed on to their families when elders pass away. I've seen this growing issue impact residents in my riding, Mr. Speaker. An elder may use their will to leave their home to a family member, but if that elder has an outstanding loan with the Housing Corporation that family member is expected to pay the loan in full.

This can be difficult to accomplish, especially when loans range from whether it's $3,000 to $80,000. That's not small change, Mr. Speaker, that's a lot of money; big money that was once part of a forgivable loan.

Later I'll have questions for the Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation on the work being done to revise and improve the CARE program and its policies. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Importance Of Land-Based Programs

Members’ Statements

Herbert Nakimayak

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as the 2016-17 trapping season begins I would like to remind hunters and trappers to have a safe and successful season.

Mr. Speaker the Take a Kid Trapping Program has introduced hundreds of school age youth across the Northwest Territories to the traditional harvesting practices of hunting, trapping, fishing and outdoor survival. Delivered through schools and Aboriginal organizations in co-operation with the Department of Environment and Natural Resources, the program is funded by the Departments of ENR, Municipal and Community Affairs, and Health and Social Services.

Mr. Speaker, Take a Kid Trapping was launched in 2004 and the number of participants tripled within the first four years. Projects such as birch bark canoe building, setting traps for Arctic animals and a caribou hunt helped establish the program as a permanent investment in our youth.

The program continues to offer hundreds of students every year a classroom on the land as instructors incorporate visits to trap lines and hands-on experience setting traps, snares and fishnets. Outdoor safety is introduced through first aid and survival training. By taking students trapping, they get to practice the skills and apply the knowledge they learn in class about wildlife and conservation, and build their awareness of traditional cultural practices.

Mr. Speaker, culture-based education enhances a sense of belonging and pride in culture. For some students, it's their first time on the land. For others, it's an opportunity to connect with their roots and practice valuable skills outside of their usual family setting. Meaningful learning experiences connect youth to their families, the past, the present, and also the future as these activities provide an ideal foundation for other opportunities, such as the Genuine Mackenzie Valley Fur Marketing Program.

In recent years, the program has branched out to initiatives such as Take a Kid Harvesting and Take a Kid Gardening that helps promote food security and community sustainability. Mr. Speaker, being on the land helps us to take responsibility for our own actions and appreciate the natural world, as global changes will continue to have a greater and greater impact on our everyday lives.

Mr. Speaker, the NWT Curriculum states, ''The wisdom of the Elders is central to cultural learning according to Aboriginal perspective. Elders are the 'Keepers of Knowledge,' and it is their guidance that Aboriginal people seek as they strive for balance in their relationships with the creator, the natural world, other people and themselves."

Mr. Speaker, this wisdom applies to all people, young and old. I believe the best way to teach that wisdom is by going on the land. Quyanainni, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member for Yellowknife Centre .

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Daughters Of The Vote Celebration 2017

Members’ Statements

Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it was 100 years ago this year that women got the right to vote. Women in Alberta were the first to be enfranchised and voters there elected the first female MLA, Louise McKinney, in 1917. Suffrage spread slowly across Canada, with women in Quebec getting the vote in 1940 and Aboriginal women along with men as well in 1960. Women slowly entered political life and in small numbers, and today we are still well short of parity. A quarter of members of Parliament are women, and here in the NWT, as you know, there are just the two of us. This Assembly has committed in its mandate to increasing the number of women running for elected office.

Mr. Speaker, I bring this information to your attention because I recently attended an event which shared this same goal. The Commonwealth Women Parliamentarians in Canada met in Regina at the beginning of the month. We spent a day with a group of young women who are considering running for, or helping someone else run for, public office at some point in their lives. They are part of a national initiative called Daughters of the Vote.

Mr. Speaker, a young woman between the ages of 18 and 23 will be selected from each of the 338 federal ridings to attend an event in Ottawa the week of March 6th next year. The programming for these emerging leaders will introduce them to how Parliament works and it will give them an opportunity to engage with elected officials. The goal is to provide knowledge and inspiration to women who are considering a career in public life.

Mr. Speaker, I'm delighted to tell you that the event sponsor, Equal Voice Canada, received a total of 19 applications from the NWT, representing eight different communities. Unfortunately, only one of them will be chosen to go to Ottawa because, of course, we have just the one federal riding. This is a challenge faced in other jurisdictions as well, where there were several times as many applications as there are positions available.

Mr. Speaker, one of my take aways from this outreach event is that if we want more women elected to represent us in all orders of government, and of course we do, we need to make engaging young women a priority. They see a world of possibilities as they work on their post-secondary education and plan their careers. If we inspire young women we may indeed have more women sitting in this Legislature one day in numbers approaching half the population. That is our challenge and we need to dedicate time, effort and resources to making this goal a reality. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Daughters Of The Vote Celebration 2017

Members’ Statements

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh .

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Early Childhood Development Challenges Related To Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Marci cho, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, [Translation] Today I would like to talk about…] [Translation ends] My Member’s statement is on early childhood development. Mr. Speaker, promoting healthy pregnancy, birth and infancy is an important component of early childhood development. This means dealing with the challenges related to Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder. Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder, or FASD, is a term used for a range of incurable cognitive and physical disabilities that a baby is born with as a result of a woman consuming alcohol during pregnancy. Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder is the leading known cause of developmental disabilities in Canada.

At least one in every 100 Canadians, or more than 380,000 people, currently live with this devastating 100 per cent preventable disability. The federal government and the provincial and territorial governments collective spend an estimated $4 billion per year on programs to support those affected by fetal alcohol spectrum disorder.

Mr. Speaker, I once attended a conference on Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder, and at that conference the presenters were talking about the importance of investment in prevention, and working with mothers at risk. Researchers tell us that for every $150,000 spent on the prevention of FASD we would save $1.5 million in costs to manage the impacts of FASD. If we prevent just one case of Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder we will save $800,000 to $1.4 million. More than that, we will prevent the damaging effects of someone living with FASD.

Mr. Speaker, although there is no cure for fetal alcohol spectrum disorder, early interventions can help a lot of kids. I have spoken to educators who agree that if a kindergarten student comes to school with all of the opportunities that should be afforded to them -- Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Should be afforded to them through early childhood development. They will have a much better chance of graduating and becoming contributing members of our society. Mr. Speaker, it is clear, we should be viewing early childhood development as an investment in our children and their future. If we view this as an investment, it would be easily the highest yielding investment we could make.

Mr. Speaker, early childhood development is the responsibility of two departments, Health and Social Services and Education, Culture and Employment. Later today, I will have questions for the Minister of Health and Social Services . Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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2016 Aboriginal Entrepreneurship Award Recipient Garth Wallbridge

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I know last week was Small Business Week, however when you represent Kam Lake there's always a good reason to talk about business. Mr. Speaker, today I'd like to acknowledge the achievements of one of my constituents who recently won the Aboriginal Entrepreneurship Award at the Yellowknife Chamber's 70th Annual Business Award Gala, Garth Wallbridge and his firm Wallbridge Law Office. Mr. Wallbridge is a Metis public speaker, lawyer, and a leading northern entrepreneur.

Having over 30 years of experience in the North and operating the only 100 per cent owned Indigenous law firm in the NWT, Mr. Wallbridge's influence has had a profoundly positive impact both locally and nationally. He was the founding director of the McGill Aboriginal Law Student's Association and the Metis Nation's Lawyer Association. He's also been invited to speak nationally on a variety of issues, but none more important to him personally than offering a better understanding of Indigenous people in Canada.

I would like to congratulate Mr. Wallbridge and wish him well in his continued success that he's had so far over the course of his prestigious career and for the future years to come. He's an inspiration to everyone here. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Hay River Chase The Ace Fundraiser

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R.J. Simpson

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm going to be very brief so we can all make it out of here early and get down to Chase the Ace. Chase the Ace needs no introduction, everyone in the territory is talking about it, the territory's a buzz. Tonight’s total potential payout should be just shy of half a million dollars. If your ticket's drawn, you have a one in 11 chance of pulling the ace and taking it all home.

Hay River, it's a short five-hour drive from Yellowknife, so I encourage everyone in the capital to take the afternoon off. Perhaps the Ministers can let their departments go at 1:00. You've got to get in line for tickets by about 6:00 p.m. at Riverview Cineplex, Ptarmigan Inn, The Back Eddy, The Legion, Diamond Jenness Secondary School, or the Soaring Eagle Friendship Centre. Mr. Speaker this fundraiser is put on by the Hay River Curling Club, but because it's grown to be such a huge event, it benefits multiple organizations, and really the entire community.

It’s a lot of fun, but it’s also a lot of work to put on, and I want to give a shout out to all the volunteers that make it happen. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. See you in Hay River.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Good luck to all those who participate. Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Inuvik Boot Lake .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It gives me great honour and pleasure to welcome my father, Mr. Winston John Moses, joining us here today. Both he and my mom, Martha, are avid watchers, they rarely miss a -- I want to say an episode -- but a day in the House in sitting when they're watching on TV. I'm glad that he could be here joining us today and taking in the proceedings. So welcome, dad. Thanks.

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to use this opportunity to recognize and thank two pages from Inuvik Twin Lakes. We've got Kyra McDonald with us today and Jazelle Pokiak, and I want to thank them and all the other hardworking pages. I also want to recognize Mr. Winston Moses as well. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Nunakput .

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Herbert Nakimayak

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also too would like to recognize Mr. Winston Moses who went to residential school with my father, and I'm proud to be working here alongside his son now. So welcome, Winston. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. If we missed anyone in the gallery, welcome to our proceedings, it's always great to have an audience. Masi. Item 6, acknowledgments. Item 7, oral questions. Member for Yellowknife North .

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Question 414-18(2): NTPC Vision And Strategy For Public Consultation

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are for the Minister responsible for the Northwest Territories Power Corporation . Mr. Speaker, it's well known that the Power Corporation was asked and chose to bid on the Hay River Franchise Agreement. My question is how has the Power Corporation made the determination knowing that they could potentially change the relationship landscape, the business landscape as it relates to power in the Northwest Territories? Can the Minister explain the rationale behind NTPC, a Crown corporation, going into direct competition with the private sector? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Louis Sebert

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, as is well-known, the franchise in Hay River came to an end and the Town of Hay River, on its own, decided that it should seek bidders for the franchise. One of the bidders was of course the Power Corporation itself. I think there were actually two other bidders. The town accepted our bid, and our sole goal of this was to provide power at a lower rate to the citizens of Hay River. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

This leads to my second question then. I would like some clarification. What is the Power Corporation's vision for its relationship then with private industry and Aboriginal development corporations? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Louis Sebert

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, our vision, the vision of the Power Corporation, is to be provider of choice to our customers, a valuable partner to industry and Aboriginal groups within the Northwest Territories. So that is the vision of the Power Corporation.

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

I'm getting flat answers, quite frankly, but I'm going to take this in another direction, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, during the briefing on Wednesday, the Power Corporation president alluded to work that's being done on energy options for communities. Could the Minister provide some detail on this planning and the rationale for coming up with these options? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Louis Sebert

Thebacha

Yes, Mr. Speaker. The Power Corporation is involved in the development of an energy plan which has been spoken of several times in this House, so we are committed in the Power Corporation to, as I say, look at new ways of providing power, keeping in mind our vision of supplying power to communities at the cheapest, affordable and safest rate. Thank you.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Yellowknife North .

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

The president said that there was going to be specific options that communities were going to be able to consider. Can the Minister speak more to the options that the communities are going to be able to consider, and can the Minister describe a strategy for public consultation and involvement as these options are being developed?

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Louis Sebert

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, this is all tied, of course, to the strategy to which groups will be invited to participate including NUL. So we're hoping to get a broad discussion about where the Power Corporation is going. Certainly, we are looking at more inventive ways and cheaper ways and more energy-efficient ways of delivering power to the Northwest Territories. That remains our goal.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 415-18(2): Additional Resources For Junior Kindergarten Implementation

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The element of surprise is well and true today. Mr. Speaker, recently the Yellowknife Catholic School Board has gone to the press and expressed their frustrations with additional pressures being placed on the district schools by the implementation of the Junior Kindergarten Program, and in the words of the school board, “we want to make sure that we're providing the best and the best school for our kids.” Right now they're looking to appropriate some portables from the YK1 School District. Has the Minister had a conversation about these resource needs and how does he plan to address it? Thank you.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and we did see the concerns in the press earlier this week. I can inform the Member that we do have two schools that fall under the Yellowknife Catholic School Boards that offer programs from kindergarten to Grade eight. The school in particular that he's mentioning does have a utilization rate of 79 per cent and at 85 per cent then we start looking at extensions as well as renovations. Now, the other school that they have has a capacity rate of 58 per cent.

We will have conversations with the superintendent how to address those concerns from the Yellowknife Catholic School Board, but there's two schools that are in Yellowknife that are currently offering K to 8 programming and both of them are not at the utilization rates at the moment, so portables at this time I can't see being an option as it results to JK, but we will speak with the superintendent of Yellowknife Catholic School Board should one of the schools get to a utilization of 85 per cent or near there, and then we can start coming up with some unique and innovative solutions so that students that are under the Yellowknife Catholic School Board system can assure that they have a safe and healthy environment to get the education they deserve.

Thank you.

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

I just wanted to ask the Minister some questions about those numbers on capacity. This is of course the Ecole St. Joseph School which is in my riding of Kam Lake, and the school board is reporting 522 students for 90 per cent capacity for the 2016-2017 enrolment year. The Minister's quoted some other numbers. Can he explain the difference between the school board's numbers and the Minister's numbers? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

The numbers that I have stated that the school in question is at 79 per cent, so we'll have to follow up with the superintendent and have our staff speak with the superintendent to make sure which numbers are correct. The numbers before me are 79, and if we are at 90 per cent and we are over utilization capacity, then we'll have to speak with the school board.

As I said, we have two schools here in Yellowknife under the Catholic School Board System where one -- if it is stated in a newspaper at over capacity, then we're going to have to come up with the unique ways as the other school that I noted is only at 58 per cent, so there's a good chance of utilizing the other school to offset those numbers.

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

I appreciate the Minister will do some research into this. I think the bigger issue here is with the roll out of junior kindergarten, it seems that many of the school boards, both in YK1 or YCS, are feeling additional pressures, and I would like to ask the Minister if the department will be providing additional resources above and beyond what they currently receive to accommodate these new students and these new resource pressures on our schools.

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

That's exactly what we're doing with this survey. As I mentioned in this House during this session. We also got a motion that as passed earlier in the week supporting the roll outs of a junior kindergarten and making sure that those surveys that addressed the concerns that are brought forward will be meeting the needs of the school, and we're having our engagements with the schools and the communities to ensure that they have the resources needed to implement junior kindergarten.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Now, I wasn't sitting in this House on the last Assembly, but I did pay attention. I feel like some deja vu. The last time this was attempted, surveys were sent out, consultations were done, and a plan was still adopted that left many schools outside of the ability to provide exactly what the school board is looking for, which again, Mr. Speaker, is providing best resources and the best schools for our kids which is exactly what we and the department agrees with and what the resolution puts forward, but to get to there we need a clear and costed plan and resources committed to this.

So will the Minister commit to providing that costed plan to this side of the House and to school boards that takes into account this gap in resources that the schools are asking for? Thank you.

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

The gap in resources, I'd like to hear if it is anything specific. We've been out engaging, we've been hearing the responses that needed to be met. We've addressed those needs and the concerns, but for the gaps I'd like the Member to let me know where they are rather than some of the projected numbers where I actually have some of the actual numbers in front of me. We're still putting that plan together as the motion said earlier this week. So in two days, I don’t think I could get a plan together from what the motion said, but we will have that in time for implementation in 2017-2018.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 416-18(2): Power Generation Options For Small Communities

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, earlier today I spoke about the Jean Marie and their willingness to become more energy efficient. I applaud them for doing this great initiative. Mr. Speaker, I was a little surprised to find out that communities can only generate 20 per cent of their own energy power from solar panels and stuff like that. This is a good step towards our mandate, but we need to do more especially for the smaller communities. We need to help them become more energy efficient and the cost of living can go down. Mr.

Speaker, can the Minister responsible for the NWT Power Corporation please provide this House, does the corporation have a policy that states it's only 20 per cent? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Louis Sebert

Thebacha

Yes, Mr. Speaker, I can advise that there is in fact a 20 per cent cap. This was developed as part of the NWT's solar strategy and it was imposed for technical reasons to ensure the electricity remains reliable. More than 20 per cent solar makes the system unstable. Now, in Colville Lake it is about 20 percent, but that was only after some very expensive batteries and sophisticated load control were installed at the power plant. Thank you.

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Mr. Speaker, during the presentation this week we heard from the Power Corporation and Colville Lake was promoted as, you know, a good model out there and we're leading the world at it.

So, Mr. Speaker, is the corporation willing to work with the smaller communities to increase this so that -- or come up with the strategies that they can increase this strategy?

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Louis Sebert

Thebacha

Yes, certainly, Mr. Speaker, as the Energy Strategy rolls out we'll certainly be looking at options. As I said, the 20 per cent figure is just to ensure reliability in the system. As mentioned, you can go above that but it becomes incredibly expensive and involves very substantial subsidies. Thank you.

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Question 416-18(2): Power Generation Options For Small Communities

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Again, I talked about the public meeting we had in Colville Lake being presented there as the ideal model out there. Is the Minister able to work with the corporation or direct the corporation to come up with a better storage operation that can be used in these smaller communities?

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Louis Sebert

Thebacha

Certainly as the Energy Strategy unfolds we are going to be looking at new technologies. We are, in the corporation, always interested in looking at newer technologies that are more energy efficient and so on, but for now this 20 per cent cap was imposed for reasons of efficiency and safety.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I thank the Minister for his answer. When he talks about this 20 per cent for solar energy, is that just the cap for solar energy or is it for geothermal, wind, hydro or whatever the community is able to generate electricity? So could the Minister please explain that? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Louis Sebert

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, that is an excellent question and --

---Laughter

-- logic would tell me that we would have to have a cap on 20 per cent on non-traditional sources of power, because the whole point of limiting it to 20 per cent was to allow there to be efficiency within the diesel system. So I imagine that 20 per cent cap would apply to all non-diesel sources of power.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 417-18(2): Take A Kid Trapping Program

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Herbert Nakimayak

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my questions today are for the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources . Mr. Speaker, my first question is: through the Take a Kid Trapping program we have seen projects such as diverse as canoe building and caribou hunts. My question is how broadly is the Take a Kid program applied? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 417-18(2): Take A Kid Trapping Program

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

This is a great program and I do know from experience that schools all across the NWT take advantage of this program. It was designed to introduce NWT youth to traditional lifestyle practices for hunting and trapping, fishing, outdoor survival and canoe-making as the Member has alluded to. It's also very good for their instructors or their teachers as well, because that introduces them to some of the traditional lifestyle that we practice up here, so it's a valuable program and it has tremendous uptake across the Northwest Territories.

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Herbert Nakimayak

Nunakput

I appreciate the response, and I see it working very well in my region. Mr. Speaker, my second question to the Minister is how are participants required to demonstrate the funding that is used for its intended purpose and report on the results of programming?

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Each Take a Kid Trapping project, they're required to submit a report with financial statement included. All of the individual project reports are then rolled into the annual Take a Kid Trapping Report.

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Herbert Nakimayak

Nunakput

I appreciate the response. Mr. Speaker, my third question is: how does the government ensure that this program continues to be delivered in schools throughout the Northwest Territories?

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, through our partnership between ENR, MACA, Health and Social Services and through the work of our HR field staff, we work with schools and harvesters throughout the region. I think one of the things we do is to ensure that this program continues to run and that they continue to receive the funding that they do from the different departments in this government. So it is a valuable program and I think it's one that has been funded very well and well taken advantage of by schools across the Northwest Territories.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Herbert Nakimayak

Nunakput

Thanks for the response; it was exactly what I was looking for. It's good to see cooperation and coordination at work in our programs, especially with elders and youth.

Mr. Speaker, I just have more of a comment, but more of a question, my last question to the Minister: can the Minister share some examples of projects undertaken in the most recent fiscal year. Quyanainni, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 417-18(2): Take A Kid Trapping Program

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, in the last year we've had over 40 schools across the Northwest Territories take advantage of this program. We've had about 1,500 northern youth who were educated in some type of aspect of trapping and traditional way of life. One of the examples would be the JBK Elementary School in Fort Smith. They've been participating in this program since it started in 2002 and they had a winter camp in Thebacha and exposed students from K to 6 and staff over the course of eight days to trapping and other harvesting techniques.

Also, Colville Lake is another good example. They have a fully integrated approach to their program and they have Living on the Land as part of the everyday school life with the program running as a main feature of education over the past 12 years, so there's a couple of examples. Again, the Take a Kid Trapping Report that is usually tabled would have more specific examples across the Northwest Territories, but I think that's a good example of how it's utilized across the NWT.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh .

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Question 418-18(2): Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder Prevention And Supports

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Marci cho, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in my Member's statement I talked about early childhood development and the impacts of Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder. I'd like to ask the Minister of Health and Social Services if he could update the House on what activities or what work has been going on at the national level in this area of FASD? Thank you.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 418-18(2): Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder Prevention And Supports

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, the national level Ministers responsible for Health and Social Services or Persons with Disabilities, get together on an annual basis. There's actually a side group been established to work on issues related to FASD. We fund the national FASD Research Group that goes out and pulls together data and helps develop promotional materials to encourage people to abstain from drinking while pregnant. As the Member said earlier, FASD is 100 per cent preventable but not curable. So they're doing a significant amount of work.

Next year, the Northwest Territories will be taking the lead on that FPT group; it will be the lead responsible for the FASD network over the following year.

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Mr. Speaker, that's very good news that the NWT will be taking the lead in this. Can the Minister advise the House what is available right now in the area of programming and so on for FASD?

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, across the Government of the Northwest Territories there's a wide range of programs and services available for children living with disabilities. Specifically related to FASD, the Stanton Territorial Hospital Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder Family and Community Support Program has been established and it basically conducts diagnostic clinics to screen and diagnose FASD in children between the ages of seven and 17.

This team consists of doctors, psychologists, occupational therapists and other speech language therapists who can work with these children and help identify their limitations and help develop individual plans for care. At the same time, Education, Culture and Employment through their inclusive schooling has support workers in schools who can work with individuals who have been diagnosed or not diagnosed as the case may be, to develop individual care plans to help them through the school system. So there is a wide variety of things that are happening out there.

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Question 418-18(2): Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder Prevention And Supports

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Can the Minister advise the House how much money has been spent on Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder programs in the GNWT?

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

I don't have at my fingertips the cost of the Stanton Territorial Hospital program that I previously mentioned, and I'll certainly get that information for the Member and committee, but we do provide money to different organizations across the Northwest Territories, not specifically for FASD but for children who are struggling with a range of disabilities which can and often does include FASD. So what I'll do is I'll pull together some of that information and I'll share it with the Member and with Committee of the Whole.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Marci cho, Mr. Speaker. It would be nice to know the trend of Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder. Can the Minister tell the House if they know the prevalence of Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder in the NWT? Thank you.

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd love to say yes, but I can't, obviously. There are a lot of adults out there who were never diagnosed and we don't have the clinical diagnosis for them, so there probably are individuals who are FASD who have never been accurately diagnosed.

I could get some information for the Member on the number that have been diagnosed through the Stanton program so that we have some current numbers, but there isn't a real solid set of information out there on the exact numbers that would exist in the Northwest Territories. But I will provide what I can to the Members across the hall.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 419-18(2): Sahtu Winter Road Construction And Maintenance

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Each year the winter road project is supervised by outside supervisors brought in at a cost. The cost includes such things as the vehicle, gas, room and board, and a significant amount of overtime. My question to the Minister of DOT is, utilizing the GNWT and SSI MOU, will the Minister consider hiring local residents for this year's season? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would have to check into this MOU right off the bat, but DOT presently hires two casuals for highway maintenance supervision out of the Sahtu Region for the winter road system.

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

Yes, I heard the number 17. Today it's two, so that totals 19 positions that we may see. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, but will the Minister consider using the principles of the MOU, I know you have to reflect on the principles of the MOU here between both governments, and entertain the idea of a negotiable site supervisor's contract with a proponent from Sahtu?

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

Upon review of the status of having a Sahtu regional office, it's the department's view that, until we have an all-season road, which I am the biggest advocate for the Mackenzie Valley Highway, that it would not be in the best use of our dollars to put a regional office for transportation in the Sahtu region at this time.

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

I'm asking the question if the Minister would entertain the idea of cost savings on a negotiable arrangement to hire local and supply local for the vehicle and eliminate the provision cost and the hotel cost for outside supervisors. Would the Minister accept that?

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

As I've already stated, we already hired two casual maintenance supervisors from the region to monitor the winter road activities. What I could convey to the Member is I would have to look into whose vehicles we're using. We're already employing two people to do that, and I will get back to the Member on where we're getting the vehicles from.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My last question is that I drive this winter road. I have no other choice but to drive it here, because I want to import cheap groceries. So I see the polar bear decals on the government's trucks, so I can guarantee the Minister that there is government-supplied personnel totalling two positions and two vehicles and room and board to service those individuals. So my questions is, with the two positions that are supplied locally and the other two positions supplied outside, would the Minister entertain including a negotiable arrangement to supply those two individuals and their supports locally? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

The Member stated that I guess we're using government vehicles to do the maintenance supervision of the winter road. I can look into it, but I can guarantee, if we already have the units available, why would we go out to contract to rent vehicles for the complete four months of the winter road and add significant costs back onto the taxpayers of the Northwest Territories? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 420-18(2): Repayment Of Inherited Care Program Debt

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Minister, in follow-up to my Member's statement I have a few questions for the Minister of Housing . I'd like to ask the Minister, what is the current Housing Corporation's policy for NWT residents who inherit a family member's outstanding loan under the CARE program? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 420-18(2): Repayment Of Inherited Care Program Debt

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Currently the policy for family members who inherit a debt from a deceased parent and get ownership of the house is that, if they decide to sell the unit, they either have to pay back the loan that was taken by the parent or else. If they wish to stay in the unit, they can take on the forgivable loan and they would just take it on. It is a forgivable loan, so if you stay in the unit over five years it starts to come off without financial contributions. So that is the current policy. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

I understand that the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation is currently examining its policies on this matter. When can residents expect to see these changes implemented?

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

As stated many times, we are currently doing the engagement survey that will be coming out -- it should be in the MLAs' hands for the last review of the format and the questions. It will be going out to every user of Housing's services and every employee and local housing organization for their feedback. We are giving two months for the feedback to be brought in, so starting in January we will be doing a thorough review of every single policy and every single program that we offer.

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

I would also like to ask the Minister: how will an amended policy affect current clients and family members of the clients?

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Question 420-18(2): Repayment Of Inherited Care Program Debt

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

The policy that we are speaking about right now is actually not an easy policy; it's very difficult. The reason that we did put on a time line of the forgivable loans starting to come off after five years and up to a ten-year period is because we found that, when we were doing the loans to people — some people, not all, in fairness — some of the people that we were providing the loans to were actually turning around and selling the units soon after they'd gotten the loans. So they had fixed up their house, gotten up to $100,000 on taxpayers' money, and then turned around and sold the unit.

So that wasn't fair, and that still is not a fair way. So we do have to be really careful with that policy, that we make sure that we are not penalizing people who do inherit houses and yet we don't put it back to the place where people actually can sell the units and there is no payback to the Housing Corporation.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 421-18(2): Safe Advantage Program Premium Reductions

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Merci, monsieur le President. Earlier today I spoke about the WSCC Safe Advantage program and the practice of refunding a portion of premiums employers whose last three years of premium assessments were $40,000 and whose continuing premiums remain above $32,000. Can the Minister responsible for WSCC explain why this refund feature is not available to all premium payers and only to those paying above a fairly substantial threshold amount? Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 421-18(2): Safe Advantage Program Premium Reductions

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister responsible for Workers' Safety and Compensation.

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Question 421-18(2): Safe Advantage Program Premium Reductions

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the WSCC is focused on ensuring safe workplaces and ensuring that the employees have safe environments to work so that no injuries occur. The Safe Advantage program details, as the Member has indicated, with businesses over $40,000 in assessment. It was found, Mr. Speaker, that large businesses, due to their accident records and claim costs drive the rates for all businesses in the Northwest Territories. If the WSCC can get large businesses to lower their accident rates, then it will lower assessment rates for everybody, including small businesses.

So their focus is on the larger businesses who actually have the claims actually occurring and are driving costs. Thanks, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 421-18(2): Safe Advantage Program Premium Reductions

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

I appreciate the response from the Minister, but what seems to be driving the bus here is reducing premiums rather than safety. So I'll again ask the Minister whether a firm is large or small, these safety programs have a cost. When small firms have to take on these programs, that's probably proportionately a greater cost. So does the Minister not agree that small employers face proportionately equal or even greater costs for safety programs and will he consider eliminating the premium threshold for refund eligibility under the Safe Advantage program?

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Question 421-18(2): Safe Advantage Program Premium Reductions

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, the Member's statement that they're more interested in claims costs or premiums is completely off base. The corporation, the WSCC, is focused on safety. As I indicated, the vast majority of claims costs are coming from large businesses. The WSCC absolutely, without question, recognizes the value of small businesses and is working hard to help small businesses reduce their overall costs. Recently they put in a program and hired an employee who can sit down with small businesses, at no cost, to help them develop their safety plans, their safety programs.

This is a way to actually help them reduce their costs right from the start. The WSCC is also putting in a training position that can help the organizations, small businesses, with mandatory training, to help them deliver it at little to no cost to the businesses, also helping the businesses remain sustainable. Mr. Speaker, the corporation is committed to small businesses, it's committed to safety, and is committed to residents of the Northwest Territories.

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Question 421-18(2): Safe Advantage Program Premium Reductions

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

I guess we have a difference of opinion here, but earlier I mentioned that COR certification can probably meet many of the same sorts of needs that the Minister spoke about, having these staff and working with small businesses and so on. But COR actually is subject to independent audit as well, so again the issue is one of cost for small businesses. Those that have already adopted COR, can't we find a way to help them in terms of their WSCC premium? So if the Minister won't consider refunds, can he suggest financial incentives or awards for businesses that do introduce a COR?

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Question 421-18(2): Safe Advantage Program Premium Reductions

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, yes, we clearly have a difference of opinion. The COR program is a construction-based safety program. It's a good program, there's no question. I support COR and there's a lot of organizations that are using COR to significant advantage; it helps them develop the plans they need, but it's very expensive to obtain and very expensive to maintain. It costs about $15,000 for a small business to get registered with COR and about $5,000 to $10,000 a year to maintain.

So the Member's suggestion that we require COR would actually drive up the costs of small businesses. We have put in, in the WSCC, a position to help individuals, small businesses, develop their safety plans. If you go to the websites, there's tons of different programs out there offering safety programming and assistance in developing safety plans that are very affordable, in many cases free, that can be done to help those small businesses meet their obligations under the WSCC legislation.

That is the direction that the WSCC has taken, they're providing support to small businesses so that they can do these safety plans for minimal to no cost, while at the same time recognizing the value of COR for those larger organizations who have the capacity and the numbers to warrant COR.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 421-18(2): Safe Advantage Program Premium Reductions

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I think the Minister's misrepresenting what I was saying. I'm not talking about making COR certification a requirement for WSCC programs and so on. What I'm saying is that those small businesses that have actually entered into it voluntarily don't seem to get any recognition through WSCC in terms of having voluntarily adopted this and the extra costs that it brings on. So once again, can the Minister commit to look at the Safe Advantage program and find ways to allow for those small businesses that have voluntarily entered into COR, that they receive some sort of financial advantage, not just the big guys, we're talking about the little guys. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 421-18(2): Safe Advantage Program Premium Reductions

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, by design the Safe Advantage program has a review that is done every five years. They had a review done a number of years ago after the first five years was completed that talked about the value of supports and resulted in some changes. There will be another review in a couple years, at which point they'll be able to assess whether or not the Safe Advantage program is meeting its needs to drive down costs for all employers across the Northwest Territories. I look forward to seeing that review. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 422-18(2): Northwest Territories Power Corporation Strategic Plan Development

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as I was talking about in my Member’s statement and as I was saying in question period, there was a public meeting with the Power Corporation and they talked about their strategic plan for the communities and the power, and how we're going to generate it and make it specifically for the communities. So I guess my question to the Minister, can he please explain if, by developing this, did the corporation actually work with the communities to come up with their specific one or is this a generic one for the whole NWT? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 422-18(2): Northwest Territories Power Corporation Strategic Plan Development

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Louis Sebert

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, the Power Corporation always works with the communities. Specifically dealing with the issue of Colville Lake, which was a bit of a test case or an experimental case for the corporation, we can advise that the cost of the solar battery system there was $2.7 million. Now, we're hoping that the cost of these types of systems will decline, as seems to be often the case with technology and, at that point, we perhaps could look at other communities. So, yes, we are willing to look at other communities in the future. I can't specifically say we'd be looking at the community referred to by the Member opposite. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

I thank the Minister for his answer. I guess I'm looking at when they develop this strategy, which we haven't seen yet, has the corporation actually worked with the communities to develop specifically their own strategic plans to help reduce the cost of electricity? So can the Minister please advise this House, if the corporation has worked with the communities to develop their strategy as part of their strategy, or is it the strategy for the whole NWT's generic picture?

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Question 422-18(2): Northwest Territories Power Corporation Strategic Plan Development

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Louis Sebert

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, I believe that the energy strategy that they have looked at in the past is generic, as referred to by Member opposite and we will be willing to, of course, work with the smaller communities, but the overall policy, as is true of most policies, tends to be territorial-wide.

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

I thank the Minister for his answer. I'm just a little bit disappointed in hearing that it's a generic one and I appreciate we need to develop a territorial one, but when we're looking at the small communities we're trying to get them off diesel fuel. I mean, ultimately, we're trying to make it a better place for people and reduce costs. So will the Minister get his department or the corporation to look at that strategy and talk to the smaller communities so they can work on something that they can make use of their money to make it more cost-effective to live in their communities?

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Question 422-18(2): Northwest Territories Power Corporation Strategic Plan Development

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Louis Sebert

Thebacha

As the Energy Strategy is rolled out it's not going to be Yellowknife-centric; I do believe they are going out to regional centres. So we will be seeking input, and the other Minister involved also will be seeking input from the communities on just the issues that are raised by the Member opposite.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

I thank the Minister for that answer, and it's actually great to hear that the corporation is working with other departments on that and I think it's a good idea in working with the communities and moving forward.

The Minister actually talked about, you know, Colville Lake and spending $2.7 million, if I'm correct, installing batteries to make sure the solar panels hooked in there. Will the Minister look at the other smaller communities south to see if they can actually do that to make it more efficient for a community? Another pilot project, I would love to have it in my riding, but if we could do another community, a small community, in the south so that they can try this project to see if it's a cost benefit to them.

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Question 422-18(2): Northwest Territories Power Corporation Strategic Plan Development

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Louis Sebert

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, I understand actually in Fort Simpson there is a solar panel system at the airport, which, admittedly it's quite small. I can't commit to entering into another pilot project at this time but I know we are considering how we can reduce the costs of power in all communities, and certainly we do want to get away fro