Debates of June 18th, 1992

This is page numbers 654 - 671 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was board .

Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

Apology For Not Allowing Continuance Of Member's Statement

Establishment Of Nunavut

Aven Seniors' Centre

Our Lady Of Fort Providence Church

Aircraft Maintenance Facility

Co-operation Among Ethnic Groups In Inuvik

Concerns About Decentralization Initiatives

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Question O560-12(2): Police Services In Grise Fiord

Question O561-12(2): Possible Uses For Culled Fish

Response From Federal Minister Of Labour Re Giant Mine Strike

Question O563-12(2): Catering Services Contract, Thebacha Campus

Question O564-12(2): Division Of Workers' Compensation Investments

Question O565-12(2): Prospects North Conference In Eastern Arctic

Question O566-12(2): Status Of "working Toward A Common Future"

Question O567-12(2): Aven Seniors' Centre, Yellowknife

Question O568-12(2): Resolving Concerns Of Aven Seniors' Centre

Question O569-12(2): Progress Of Water Line In Arviat

Question O570-12(2): NWT Power Corporation Franchise Agreements

Question O571-12(2): Aboriginal Residents Registering For Business Incentive Policy

Question O572-12(2): Facilities Review Of Community Health

Question O573-12(2): Evaluating Implications Of Division On Government Infrastructure

Question O574-12(2): Number Of Abortions Performed In Nwt

Question W35-12(2): Provision Of Legal Counsel To Municipal Councils

Question W36-12(2): Department Of Transportation Guidelines For Use Of Construction Equipment

Question W37-12(2): Status Of The Board Of Management For Alcohol And Drug Services

Committee Report 11-12(2): Interim Report Of The Standing Committee On Agencies, Boards And Commissions On The Review Of The Workers' Compensation Board

Government Leader's Authority Regarding Ministers

Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Item 19: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Item 21: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Hon. Titus Allooloo , Mr. Antoine , Mr. Arngna'naaq , Mr. Arvaluk , Hon. Michael Ballantyne , Mr. Bernhardt , Hon. Nellie Cournoyea ,

Mr. Dent , Mr. Gargan , Hon. Stephen Kakfwi , Mr. Koe , Mr. Lewis , Mrs. Marie-Jewell , Ms. Mike , Mr. Nerysoo , Hon. Dennis Patterson ,

Hon. John Pollard , Mr. Pudlat , Mr. Pudluk , Mr. Todd , Hon. Tony Whitford , Mr. Zoe

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Good afternoon. Orders of the day for Thursday, June 18, 1992.

Item 2, Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mrs. Marie-Jewell .

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Apology For Not Allowing Continuance Of Member's Statement

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to apologize to one of my colleagues on this side of the House. Yesterday, Mr. Speaker, I denied the Member for Nahendeh to continue on his Member's statement. In reviewing the Hansard, I recognized what I thought I had heard was not correct, and with that I would like to apologize for not allowing him equal opportunity to continue with his Member's statement as I have allowed other Members in this House. Thank you.

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Members' statements. Mr. Todd .

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Establishment Of Nunavut

Item 3: Members' Statements

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is with great pleasure that I rise today to speak about the establishment of Nunavut, a dream that we in the Eastern Arctic, can finally see on the horizon. Just six short weeks after the plebiscite, the date when Nunavut will finally be established, once such a faraway dream, now seems so close to fruition. It is for that reason I believe it is incumbent upon us to begin planning now for that day. Virtually every decision we make in this Legislature will have some impact on the future of the eastern territory.

On Wednesday, Mr. Speaker, the honourable Member for Baffin Central spoke quite eloquently about the need for the government to rethink the way its departments, boards and agencies deliver programs in planning for the creation of Nunavut. In that vein, I believe it is also time to promote the evolution of non-government organizations that will play a large and vital role in the development of Nunavut.

At present, umbrella organizations such as the NWT Chamber of Commerce, the NWT Construction Association and the NWT Association of Municipalities represent some of the people of the Northwest Territories. Since Nunavut will be establish far more quickly than any of us can imagine, I believe it is time to establish and, more importantly, fund parallel organizations for the Eastern Arctic to ensure an orderly transition once division occurs.

Similarly, special conferences or events such as the recent Prospects North conference that received grants from this government can only be funded in a similar manner, Once

these new organizations are established, it will be necessary to fund similar conferences and trade shows in the Nunavut area.

Mr. Speaker, people in Nunavut are excited by the challenge of creating a new territory. We are ready for that challenge. It is now time for this government to recognize that Nunavut will soon be a reality and recognize its role in providing support for that eventuality.

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Members' statements. Mr. Lewis .

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Aven Seniors' Centre

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

I rise today out of grave concern, not only that Yellowknife, these days, seems to be in the news right across the country, but even locally there are concerns that many of the facilities of which we are proud are in danger of being decimated.

The Aven Seniors' Centre had a deficit last year of $30,422. With the current commitments of this government, as I understand them, that deficit will increase to $54,467. That facility was built on the basis of a tremendous amount of volunteer labour and help, and there has been a tremendous voluntary contribution from people throughout this community, and it is exhausted.

There are people there who are not wealthy; probably the average would be about $10,000 a year that people have to live on. Currently, they are paid $376 a month, and even if that were to be increased, Social Services always finds some convenient way to say, "Well, we do not really have to provide you with the resources you need because if you increase your costs, then, of course, we can reduce ours.'

I would like the government to recognize that this place is a very, very important place, not just for Yellowknife, but for all people in the NWT, because it provides a home which is rather unique. It provides 24-hour care for elderly people with medical needs. It keeps people active and able to lead a meaningful life. It recognizes, appreciates and values the cultural background of its people, and it provides affordable medical care and housing in a very home-like kind of environment.

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Lewis , your allotted time has expired.

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will not abuse this privilege of being allowed to continue.

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Mr, Lewis, you I have not been allowed yet. Are you asking?

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

I would like to continue and ask for unanimous consent to do so.

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

The honourable )le Member is seeking unanimous consent. Are there any nays? There are no nays, Proceed, Mr. Lewis .

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

I will not abuse this privilege. This centre allows for out-of-town elders to move here to be with their families. I know that the Government Leader , herself in her 50s, has made requests so that people she knows from her area can come here to live, to be close to friends and family. Even the mother of one of our ordinary Members, is there enjoying the kind of care that is provided in that facility.

I would like, therefore, to urge all Members of this House to take particular note of this item when we have to deal with it at budget time because I shall be fighting this one and will give it a priority among all the social issues that we have to deal with. Thank you.

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Gargan .

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Our Lady Of Fort Providence Church

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In a return to an oral question the day before yesterday, the Minister of Culture and Communications stated that his department is prepared to contribute $25,000 to assist in the restoration of Our Lady of Fort Providence Church. I would like to take this opportunity to thank the Minister of Culture and Communications for the $25,000 he has pledged to help pay for repairs. This is a good start. With this $25,000, we can hopefully have the church stabilized by this fall. Then we will finally be able to use the church once again for special events such as weddings, baptisms, and Christmas and Easter services.

On behalf of the citizens of Fort Providence, especially our elders and the Catholic Church, I would like to thank the Minister for this funding. However, I would like to point out that this funding is long overdue and represents only a fraction of the funding we need. It is going to take a lot more than $25,000 to bring the church up to standard. An estimate in 1990 suggested restoration could cost as much as $150,000. Once the church is stabilized, a great deal of work will be required to ensure that the church conforms to current fire code standards.

We must also upgrade the church's electrical wiring and repair the roofing. We must also restore the paintings which have suffered since we were forced to close our Lady of Fort Providence Church nearly two years ago.

In closing, Mr. Speaker, I would like to once again tell the Minister that it is a good start, and we are hoping he is sincere in his commitment to finishing this important task. Thank you.

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Members' statements. Mr. Antoine .

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Aircraft Maintenance Facility

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I would like to conclude the statement that I started yesterday. I also accept the apology by the Member for Thebacha for naying me.

--- Applause

I still have concerns about the feasibility study on the decision that it was based upon. I think it is an inadequate piece of work. I think it is wrong to assume that just because there is a central office in one community, the maintenance area must be located there as well. With the modern convenience of computer link-ups, faxes, electronic mail, there is no need for a maintenance facility to be next door to the operations.

The Government Leader 's New Directions indicates that the facility would be developed in co-ordination with new training programs for aircraft maintenance engineer trades at Thebacha Campus. I think the presence of the Thebacha Campus should have no bearing on the decision as to where the location of a heavy maintenance facility should be.

All I wanted to say is that I was hoping the final decision for the location of the aircraft maintenance facility would not be made until the study was reviewed by the communities concerned so that a fair chance would be given to emerging market communities. How else can these communities develop if they are not given a fair chance? Mahsi.

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Members' statements. Mr. Koe .

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Co-operation Among Ethnic Groups In Inuvik

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Inuvik has close to an equal number of Gwich'in, Inuvialuit and non-aboriginal residents. Each group looks for a different organization to represent their interests: the Gwich'in, the Gwich'in Community Council; the Inuvialuit, the Inuvialuit or Inuvik Community Corporation; and others, the town council. Before land claims were settled, all of these groups worked independently of each other; however, I believe all respected each other's authority.

I would like to describe some examples of renewed cooperation among these three groups. During the Commission for Constitutional Development, all three groups submitted a joint proposal which outlined principles to establish a new governing relationship, such as the areas of jurisdiction that are fundamental to the revitalization, promotion and protection of aboriginal heritage, and the maintenance of democratic principles to ensure that no group or individual shall be excluded from governing the community. More discussions will be carried out in the future to define a new governing structure and authorities for Inuvik.

The two aboriginal organizations are concerned about the perceived lack of commitment by education authorities, their development and instruction of aboriginal languages. For example, there are no aboriginal language instructors in the high school. In fact, there is no aboriginal teacher. The situation continues to undermine the self-esteem of our native youth. Both organizations, in working with educational institutions, agreed to an interim arrangement to hire two halftime language instructors.

In the long term, the Gwich'in and Inuvialuit have asked the Official Languages Commissioner to investigate the implementation of the Official Languages Act and the federal-territorial funding agreement. It is hoped that this investigation can produce recommendations that the Legislative Assembly may consider in the near future.

The region requested, as well, a teacher education program to be placed in Inuvik to increase the aboriginal teaching staff...

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Koe , your allotted time has expired.

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Co-operation Among Ethnic Groups In Inuvik

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

May I seek unanimous consent to proceed with my statement?

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Proceed please, Mr, Koe.

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Co-operation Among Ethnic Groups In Inuvik

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

... where 70 percent of the students are aboriginal. Without this program, Gwich'in and Inuvialuit will continue to see drop-outs. Government, before getting approval for funding priorities, has stopped any further TEP initiatives without consultation from this Assembly.

The Town of Inuvik, the Gwich'in and Inuvialuit organizations have also decided to participate in fund-raising efforts to build a recreation centre. This long overdue project is in Inuvik's capital plan. However, the current allocation is totally inadequate to build a skating rink, let alone a recreation centre. When the Legislative Assembly considers the capital budget, I hope Members will take into consideration that the existing facilities are condemned and may be closed in the next year or two. The community is willing to provide their fair share of funds to build a recreation facility which should serve Inuvik for many years.

On another initiative, the Town of Inuvik and other tourism organizations, including the two aboriginal groups, formed a steering committee to assist the Department of Economic Development and Tourism in the development of a tourism visitors' centre. The centre will provide regional focus to a tourism industry that is rapidly creating a new economic base. The Inuvialuit and Gwich'in have entered into a joint ownership arrangement for the project. Ownership will ensure that aboriginal heritage is presented in a truly northern fashion.

Mr. Speaker, these initiatives are paving the way for a new partnership among all the ethnic groups in Inuvik, and I look forward to working with the Inuvik partners, which are creating a healthy working environment for the political, social and economic development of the community. Mahsi.

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

I notice the trend in the last couple of days that Members' statements are going quite often beyond two and a half minutes. I would like to ask Members to try to keep their statements within two and a half minutes because if we are constantly breaking our own rules, I do not think that gives a very good impression, So if I could just ask Members to respect the rules of the House. Thank you, Members' statements. Mr. Bernhardt . A point of privilege. Mrs. Marie Jewell.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, I realize that I have not set the time for indicating a point of privilege, but I think part of our problem on this side of the House is that the Canadian flag is in our way, and we cannot see the clock to speed up as we do our Members' statements if time is lapsing. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Mrs. Marie-Jewell , I think you have made a very astute observation, and one that this House will duly take note of and rectify. Members' statements. Mr. Bernhardt .

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Concerns About Decentralization Initiatives

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Ernie Bernhardt

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to speak about my concerns regarding the decentralization initiatives announced Tuesday by the Government Leader . I have tried, during my short time in this House, to give this cabinet the benefit of the doubt in the planning for the restructuring of northern government. I understand that the job they have is very difficult, and tough decisions are required. Mr. Speaker, I can bide my time no longer.

During the last Assembly, several ordinary Members spoke passionately about the seemingly unequal distribution of money for capital projects and other programs throughout the NWT and, in particular, the Kitikmeot Region. Sadly, this cabinet seems to be continuing this trend. The recent decentralization of government programs ignored the two most economically disadvantaged regions of the NWT; the North Slave and the Kitikmeot. Clearly it is these regions that require the most benefits derived from the decentralization of government programs.

Mr. Speaker, I do not want to sound opposed to any mining venture in my region; I simply say that the people of the Kitikmeot want to build a strong and self-sustaining economy that can survive downturns in the economy. We cannot rely solely on the discovery of minerals that we may have or that may or may not be developed in the future.

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Bernhardt , your time has expired.

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Ernie Bernhardt

Kitikmeot

I seek unanimous consent to finish my statement.

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Continue, Mr. Bernhardt .

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Ernie Bernhardt

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is not often that I agree with the former Member for Kitikmeot . However when he stated during the last Assembly that in regard to the distribution of government money and programs, "it would be better if the Kitikmeot became part of the Keewatin Region, or better yet, was considered a suburb of Iqaluit," I think he hit the nail directly on the head. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Allooloo .

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Return To Question O491-12(2): Quality Of Student Care Services At Akaitcho Hall

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Antoine on April 2, 1992, concerning student care at Akaitcho Hall. The Member for Nahendeh requested a review of all policies and procedures regarding the supervision and care of students at Akaitcho Hall, with specific references to counselling of students with drug and alcohol dependencies.

In November 1990, an interim proposal regarding the care of students with alcohol or drug dependencies was considered by the administrator and staff of Akaitcho Hall, the board of management and the Department of Education. As a result, a number of workshops on alcohol and drug related dependencies were offered to students. These workshops were useful, but they were not part of the planning approach to improve student care.

The review of Akaitcho Hall, conducted from May 19-21, 1992, will make comprehensive recommendations on the level of student supervision and care at the residence. Many professionals, students, staff, parents and board members were interviewed as part of the review, including Pastor Gavac, who prepared the November 1990 interim proposal. The review will be completed by the end of June 1992.

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Return To Question O491-12(2): Quality Of Student Care Services At Akaitcho Hall

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Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

This is a return to a question asked by Mr. Lewis yesterday, on the refusal of entry of the Fire Marshal at Giant Mine. On the morning of Wednesday, June 17, 1992, the Fire Marshal, accompanied by the acting chief mining safety inspector and the fire chief of the City of Yellowknife, attended at the Giant Mine to perform inspections. The officials were unable to gain access to the property.

One charge each has been laid pursuant to

section 20 of the Fire Prevention Act against Mr. Terry Byberg, mine manager, and against Royal Oak Resources for obstructing the Fire Marshal. The Fire Marshal, the acting chief mining safety inspector, and the fire chief of the City of Yellowknife again attended at Royal Oak on the afternoon of Wednesday, June 17, 1992 and were given access to the property.

As the charges of obstructing the Fire Marshal have been laid, no further comments will be made on this matter by departmental officials or the Minister until the charges are disposed of in court. The first appearance in court of those charged is set for Thursday, July 16, 1992

The Department of Safety and Public Services is continuing to closely monitor safety conditions at Royal Oak Resources to ensure that the occupational health and safety of all personnel are preserved.

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Question O560-12(2): Police Services In Grise Fiord

Item 5: Oral Questions

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Ludy Pudluk

High Arctic

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Grise Fiord has a problem of not having a policeman in their community. On June 5th I wrote a letter in regard to their concern. Can the Minister of Justice indicate to me if Grise Fiord will be included to have an RCMP there?

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, I am as concerned as the Member about the possibility of so-called satellite detachments at communities like Grise Fiord being deprived of their members in the future. I think they are important not only for the community but also for other reasons, including sovereignty.

Mr. Speaker, to answer the Member's question, there has, as of today, been no final resolution of this issue. I am still in discussions with the RCMP about this matter. We are attempting to work out an arrangement which will allow communities like Grise Fiord to still have police services in the coming year, even despite the financial restraint that we are operating under. I will continue working vigorously in that direction, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Question O561-12(2): Possible Uses For Culled Fish

Item 5: Oral Questions

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister of Renewable Resources is the Minister I wanted to question, but I can direct this to the Economic Development Minister . There is a lot of talk on fishing, and there are bluefish, grayling, jackfish, whitefish, fish of this kind. A lot of these fish are being disposed of, and early this spring there was a meeting in Hay River. Some of the delegates from Providence attended this meeting. This is the reason I wanted to ask the Minister if, instead of disposing of this fish, it can be sold or we could use the stuff for pet food or something. I wonder what they are going to do with this.

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John Pollard

Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There have been a number of proposals over the years. I think at one time, in 1985, there was a proposal to ship culled fish and fish that had net marks or cut fish, out on the lake, to Calgary to Red Top Dog Foods. Red Top Dog Foods offered 13 cents a pound at that time, Mr. Speaker, and the freight to get it to Calgary was 15 cents a pound. Fishermen who catch fish on the lake that are not accepted by the Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation cannot afford the fuel to haul them off the lake, so there has been a lot of looking at that.

There is an interesting proposal at the present time from a group in Hay River, to start up a company that would process that fish in Hay River, and that is being looked at now. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Oral questions. I have Mr. Dent next.

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Question 0562-12(2): Response From Federal Minister Of Labour Re Giant Mine Strike

Item 5: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Justice . Can the Minister advise this House whether he has had any response from the federal Minister of Labour to his letter and the motion which was passed unanimously by this House requesting binding arbitration be used to resolve the labour dispute at Giant Mine?

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, as I told the office of the Hon. Marcel Danis this morning, I was waiting, then I was waiting anxiously, and then I was waiting very anxiously, for a reply on what the federal government intended to do on this very grave situation. I have to inform the House and the Member that as of this moment I have received no reply from the Minister as to what the federal government intends to do. I will advise the House as soon as I receive further information on this. I think the Minister's office is very anxious to find out what is going on.

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Mrs. Marie-Jewell .

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Question O563-12(2): Catering Services Contract, Thebacha Campus

Item 5: Oral Questions

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to pose a question to the Minister of Education . Yesterday I asked the Minister of Government Services in respect to the tendering processes for the government. I would like to advise the Minister of Education that I am interested in the

results of an invitation to tender on a catering services contract contracted by Thebacha Campus of Arctic College, which was published in News North on May 25th. I understand the tender call closed on June 2nd. At the same time, I understand that the bid prices that were submitted on this particular contract were not released for public information, and I would like to ask the Minister of Education if he knows why his officials conducted the opening of that bid in that particular manner.

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Mr. Allooloo .

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Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will take the question as notice and get back to the Member.

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The question has been taken as notice. Ms. Mike ,

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Question O564-12(2): Division Of Workers' Compensation Investments

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

No, Mr. Speaker. I do not know.

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Minister make an effort to find out?

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In recognizing that

section 7(1) of the Workers' Compensation Act gives the members of the board exclusive jurisdiction over all matters

and questions arising under this act, and that

section 60(1) of the same statute gives the board the authority to make any investments, can the Minister explain how he will be able to ensure that his views and those of his cabinet colleagues are even considered during strategic planning on how to divide the investments of the Workers' Compensation Board?

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, I think that the division of the Northwest Territories will certainly require legislative change, and I would predict that if there are barriers in the present Workers' Compensation Act to preparing for division and re-allocating the investment portfolio of the Workers' Compensation Board in connection with division, then it would be the responsibility of myself and of this Legislature to amend the legislation so that those barriers do not stand in the way of pursuing the political evolution of the Northwest Territories. So the legislation would and could be changed. Thank you.

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Question O565-12(2): Prospects North Conference In Eastern Arctic

Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 658

John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Economic Development . During the recent Prospects North '92 conference, there were approximately 53 speakers and panel participants. There were only three panel participants from the Eastern Arctic, and I believe out of 37 business exhibitors there was one from the Eastern Arctic. In light of this, could the Minister inform the House what options, if any, are being considered for this kind of conference in the Eastern Arctic?

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John Pollard

Hay River

If the department is approached, Mr. Speaker, it will be given due consideration. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

One of the optimistic notes of this conference was the attendance of the Russian delegates. Could the Minister inform the House what plans are in place, if any, for a follow-up contact with the Russian delegates that came to this Prospects North conference?

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John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, most of the dialogue between the Soviet delegation and people in the Northwest Territories has been done through Ferguson, Simek Clark. We are aware of their aspirations. We have looked at some of their art, and if there are opportunities for the Northwest Territories in the Soviet Union beyond what we have already looked at. we will be following up on it, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Could the Minister advise the House in what financial way, if any, did he extend support for the development of these contacts? What is our financial commitment to these contacts at the Prospects North conference?

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John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, the Department of Economic Development and Tourism gave money, and I want to say $50,000, although I will check that number, to Prospects North, to assist them with their conference. To my knowledge, sir -- and I will check again -- I do not believe that we assisted the Soviets. Thank you.

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. In April, a report entitled Working Toward a Common Future, which was prepared by the Commission for Constitutional Development, was completed and distributed widely across the Northwest Territories to residents. My question is to the Minister of Intergovernmental and Aboriginal Affairs . What is the status of this report?

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, the report was given to the committee of political leaders this spring, and it was agreed at that meeting that all the members of the political committee -- the Inuvialuit, the Dene Nation, the Gwich'in Tribal Council, the Sahtu Tribal Council, the Metis Nation, and the Members of the Legislature -- would take time over the next few months to bring the report to the attention of their constituents, and the expectation would be that the Dene Nation, the Metis Association, and the Inuvialuit, in particular, would be expected to take the lead in discussing and responding to the recommendations within that commission report.

It was my view that because of the rather intense

schedule that the constitutional talks had placed on myself and the members of the staff I work with, that it was not realistic to think we could have staff give adequate time and attention to providing an analysis and critique of the report on any short order. So I had served notice that probably sometime this summer we would be in a better position to provide Members of the Legislature and the public with cabinet's view; and whatever way the Legislature may choose, follow that on what to do with this commission report.

That was the way in which the report was left. It was brought to the attention of the committee of political leaders. There were no decisions made, other than that we would take time and it would be brought back to our respective constituents for review and discussion. Thank you.

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When will Members of this Assembly get an opportunity to discuss this report?

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I was of the view that, without wanting to prejudice the discussion that could happen within the membership of the Dene Nation, the Metis Nation and the other aboriginal organizations, we should allow these groups and organizations to take the lead in the discussions. I think we would all benefit as a Legislature if we allowed, for instance, the Dene Nation and the Metis Assembly this summer to discuss it, since they have some equal ownership to the recommendations and observations contained within the report. Politically, I thought it would be wiser for us to allow that to happen. Then perhaps we could have our own discussion in the fall session. Thank you.

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As Minister responsible, you received criticisms from several aboriginal organizations when this report was being developed, specifically from the Dene Nation, Metis Nation and Deh Cho Tribal Council. Could you enlighten this House as to your position on some of these allegations from these groups?

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I have a problem with that question, and I will ask the honourable Member to rephrase that question because questions should not refer to allegations.

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

I am still learning. There were letters received from the Deh Cho Tribal Council and press statements made by the Metis Nation and Dene Nation regarding the Minister's position on working toward a common future. Can the Minister enlighten the House as to his position on these positions presented by these organizations?

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, the only letter that we got from the Deh Cho in regard to constitutional talks was in relation to the national constitutional talks that were happening in Ottawa, not on the process set up by the Western Constitutional Commission. The text of the letter basically said they were serving notice to the world that as far as the Deh Cho chiefs were concerned, I personally and as Minister of Intergovernmental and Aboriginal Affairs did not represent the treaty interests of the Dene in constitutional talks.

It is an understanding that everyone has had for many, many years, but they felt reason to reiterate that. It has always been understood that the chiefs and treaty Dene are represented by their chiefs, by the Dene Nation and by the Assembly of First Nations in national constitutional talks.

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will there be a phase

two of this process?

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, when the commission was set up, it was done in the closing hours of the last Legislative Assembly. I think Members will recall that in the last session there were some questions as to why funding was provided the way it was and, for instance, why there was no funding given for a public campaign on the plebiscite in the West.

These were matters that the last Legislature did in haste, and the budget that was provided for the commission was supported by the eastern Members because they were anxious to get on with Nunavut and the plebiscite, and they understood and supported the need on the part of the western MLAs to come up with a process, to begin a process to begin work on a constitution for a western territory.

Since then, as you know, the commission has spent its money and we have gone into a deficit budget.

So when we had a meeting with the political leaders, part of my argument for taking time over the spring and summer to review the commission report and to allow it to go to the assemblies and to have the aboriginal organizations took at it carefully, is that in my view, if there is going to be a phase two, it has to be a very well thought out, well coordinated, package deal that has the full support of the Inuvialuit, the Metis, the Dene, and the different organizations that represent the Dene, and, as well, it has to be clear and understood by the Members of this Legislature.

They do not want to jeopardize the ongoing work required for the western part of the Territories to work on a constitution by puffing a hastily developed package together. So I think whatever we do, it is going to take some argument to get all Members to provide funding for continuing on to phase two of the constitutional process.

So that was the reason for it. I think there will be an ongoing stage because that is one of the conditions for division: that there be an acceptable constitution developed for the western territory before division should proceed.

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

I would like to take this opportunity to welcome a former colleague to the Legislative Assembly, a cabinet Minister holding many portfolios, a friend to all living things, Mr. Gordon Wray.

--- Applause

Mr. Lewis .

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Social Services . I have indicated that the Aven Seniors' Centre faces a deficit of over $54,000 this year as a result of a reduction of commitment by his department to the running of that centre. There has also been a reduction by CMHC of over $2000 a month. If the centre decides to increase the amount of monthly cost from $376 per month, then that will cause a reduction in the amount of commitment Social Services will make to the centre.

And since there are as many as six people on the waiting list, does the Minister have any contingency plans so that those six people can be looked after somewhere else if this centre cannot fund the operation properly?

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not have the specific details on individuals. However, I am aware of the problem that the Aven Seniors' Centre is facing financially. I have met with the board personally on a couple of occasions, and so have the senior staff of my department, to discuss this matter. We are working on trying to resolve this unfortunate combination of events. As the Member points out, I do not have a contingency plan, because I am not aware of a plan.

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Has the Minister, though, since he is aware of the situation - although he may not have all the details, he is aware of this principle, that if the centre decides to raise the amount, even a small amount - is he still committed to the principle that whatever they can raise has to be reduced from the contribution made by his department to that centre?

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am planning to take before cabinet a proposal on the senior citizens' centre, in the area of increasing the user fee.

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On the same subject the honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre was discussing, the Minister stated that he has met with the board and the senior officials of the Aven Seniors' Centre. What specific actions will the Minister take to resolve these concerns?

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Specifically, we are all aware of the deficit. We are aware that other facilities are facing similar deficits, and I am looking at ways of coming up with some money to offset the deficit for this particular year. That is all I can say on the matter at this point.

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

These funding concerns are probably the same across the Territories in these types of facilities. Is the Minister developing, or looking at developing, any new policies or programs to deal with funding of these types of facilities?

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, I am, because the department is aware that there are a number of different facilities, and some of them operate on different funding formulas. I know in some communities there is a lot of pride taken in operating a facility from community resources, with some assistance from sponsoring agencies such as Social Services and Health. We do not want to get in and take over the whole of the operation and not allow these local groups to have a role to play in it, so it is difficult to come up with a broad brush policy on operation of facilities. That is why it has taken some time, but we are looking at the matter.

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am also aware that this facility in particular cannot get any capital contributions. The question is, why cannot the Aven Seniors' Centre obtain any capital contributions from the government to fix up and maintain their facility?

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I said, I have met with the board. I have received their concerns in written form. This is before the department, to try to resolve this. There are a number of complications, of course. We have several hoops to jump through here in order to obtain that kind of funding, and it is being looked at. It is not being ignored, Mr. Speaker.

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The existing policies also seem to limit the ability of the Aven Seniors' Centre to raise or utilize private funding to maintain their operations and maintenance of the facility. Will the Minister be looking at this aspect also, and maybe look at the legislation and policy?

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to thank the Member for the suggestion, and that will be included in anything that we do. Thank you.

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Silas Arngna'naaq

Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs . I wanted to find out the progress of the water line in Arviat. Thank you.

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, we are still waiting for the snow to melt so that we can do the work necessary to survey a site, look at the water intake point and design the line, but I want to assure the Member that as soon as conditions permit, this project is going to be given a high priority by my officials. We are intending to bring materials in this summer and begin construction as soon as we can, but the climate has to permit the work to be undertaken. Thank you.

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Silas Arngna'naaq

Kivallivik

Supplementary, Mr. Speaker, to the same Minister. I would like to know if he knows whether this water line will be built this summer. Thank you.

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, as I say, there are some steps to be taken before we begin construction. One of the issues that I am informed is a preliminary requirement is that the department be satisfied that the water quality in Dion Lake and Wolf Creek and the reservoir satisfies the Canadian drinking water quality guidelines, since there does appear to be some concern about concentrations of iron in Dion Lake and Wolf Creek. We are still awaiting more information, particularly test results from samples that were collected in May from under the ice of Dion Lake and the reservoir.

I can tell the Member that, assuming the water quality is found acceptable, I have requested $275,000 through the capital outlook process in order to order the pipe for purchase this summer. My department tells me that the water pump and other material would likely have to be purchased the following year, with a view to start-up in the fall of 1993, but work will commence this summer, assuming the water quality is satisfactory, on the pipeline portion of the project. Thank you.

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Silas Arngna'naaq

Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My second question should have been a yes or no answer. This water pipeline has been requested for the past 10 years or so from the community of Arviat. I do not understand why all these studies could not have been done in that time. I still did not quite understand whether this will be operational this summer for the fall, or whether it will be operational next summer. Thank you.

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Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, I will try to be succinct. If water quality is found to be satisfactory, the pipe work will take place this summer, but the start-up is not anticipated until the following year, the fall of 1993. At the moment, it will be proceeding in two stages over two years.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister responsible for the NWT Power Corporation. In reviewing the franchise agreement between the NWT Power Corporation and municipalities, they are working toward a 10-year franchise agreement as opposed to a five or three-year franchise agreement. Could the Minister advise the House why we are looking at a 10-year franchise agreement?

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the Power Corporation in the event that it gains access to alternate energy systems over the next 10 years?

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I believe the Power Corporation in conducting its business is conducting its business whether it is two corporations, or one corporation. The business plan is to encourage the procurement of power which the Power Corporation would then distribute. So certainly in the development of alternative power, the corporation is quite prepared to buy that power and redistribute it

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to be answering this question to a businessman who generally knows that it is necessary to plan investments in the long term

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The Power Corporation sees that many of the power projects that we have and are committed to installing require a certain amount of resources and revenues to be attained. It was felt that a 10-year commitment from communities would allow an overall planning cycle which would guarantee adequate power to the consumers in those different communities.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

As long as the government is paying for it, I guess there is no problem. Anyway, recognizing that in the next decade there will be an unprecedented change in the political and constitutional status in northern municipalities, including the new relationship with Eastern Arctic communities which will be forged under a Nunavut government and possibly the emergence of some sort of district governments in the new western territory, why is the corporation sitting now with a 10-year franchise framework for power delivery which could encumber and obstruct the emergence of the new political structures at the community level?

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, when we attained the Power Corporation transfer from the federal government and formed our own corporation, it was important that we knew what the assets were and where the activities were likely to occur and the expenses. I would assume that if the Power Corporation were split, these 10-year franchises would be equally important as a favourable asset to a new corporation.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

In response to my December 17, 1991, question to the Minister, the Minister told the House that communities entering into these franchise agreements with the NWT Power Corporation would not be precluded from considering alternate power sources such as hydro and wind-generated power. Would she be prepared to outline the process through which community government, Nunavut government, district government, will be able to vary this franchise agreement with

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to direct my question to the Minister of Transportation . This spring there were several bids submitted for spraying of water on the Mackenzie Highway. One of the bids was from an aboriginal person from a community. His bid was low enough that he could have qualified; however, he did not qualify because he did not register for the northern preference policy. Are permanent aboriginal residents who have businesses or start businesses required to register in order to qualify them for those points necessary to be awarded those contracts?

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Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Under the business incentive policy, I am told that everyone in the NWT, including aboriginal people, is required to submit their business incentive policy application in order to qualify for business incentive in the NWT.

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Mr. Speaker, why is it that aboriginal people should register? Those are the people who are here, and we know they are going to stay here and whatever business they have is going to be developed and stay in the North. I do not know why they should register themselves in order to qualify for government contracts.

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Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not know all the background on the business incentive policy with respect to aboriginal people. I would like to take the question as notice and give a proper answer to the Member.

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The question has been taken as notice. Mr. Antoine ,

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday the Minister of Health told this House that the department had completed the review of community health facilities. This government has stated many times that it is committed to the principle of open

government. I assume the Minister is prepared to table this report to ensure that all citizens have access to this important information. Is the Minister prepared to table the review and recommendations of the community health facilities during the current session?

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Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I am quite prepared to table the report, and the only caveat I would put on it is to see if we had made a commitment to make sure that Fort Simpson got that report first. So as soon as I check that, I am quite prepared to table it.

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Question O573-12(2): Evaluating Implications Of Division On Government Infrastructure

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The process through which the NWT divides to form a new political entity will require careful planning and strong leadership. My question will be to the Minister of Finance . Can the Minister advise the House whether he has given any direction to his department to develop a process for evaluating the implications of division on the government infrastructure of the new territory?

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No, I have not, Mr. Speaker.

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Rebecca Mike

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Supplementary to the Minister of Finance . Would he consider issuing a directive which requires each deputy minister to ensure that all GNWT departments establish a formal plan for long-range organizational shifts necessary for the delivery of programs and services within Nunavut government?

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