Debates of Feb. 10th, 2014

This is page numbers 3523 – 3556 of the Hansard for the 17th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

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Topics

Oral Questions

Members Present

Prayer

Anti-Poverty Roundtable And Next Steps

Successful Trade Mission To China

Canada’s Best Diversity Employers 2014

Tribute To Winter Olympian Michael Gilday

Access To Palliative Care Services In The Sahtu Region

Organizational Changes To Dehcho Health And Social Services Authority

MLA Information Requests

Mental Health Services In The Beaufort-Delta

Worker Exposure To Arsenic At Giant Mine Remediation Site

Medical Escort Policy

Wild Mushroom Harvest

GNWT Position Vacancies

NWT Fishing Industry

Recognitions of Visitors in the Gallery

Access To Palliative Care Services In The Sahtu Region

Organizational Changes To Dehcho Health And Social Services Authority

Medical Travel Escort Policy

MLA Information Requests

Mental Health Services In The Beaufort-Delta

Worker Exposure To Arsenic At Giant Mine Remediation Site

Commercial Harvest Of Wild Mushrooms

NWT Fishing Industry

Policy On Northern Art In Public Buildings

GNWT Position Vacancies

GNWT Position Vacancies

Elders Long-Term Care Facilities

Return To Written Question 6-17(5): Reallocation Of Funds For Junior Kindergarten

Tabled Document 26-17(5): Government Of The Northwest Territories Anti-Poverty Action Plan, Building On The Strength Of Northerners, 2014-15 To 2015-16

Tabled Document 27-17(5): A Question Of Future Prosperity – Developing A Heritage Fund In The Northwest Territories

Tabled Document 28-17(6): News/north Editorial – February 10, 2014: Devolution Dishonoured

Allocation Of Resource Revenues To NWT Heritage Fund

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Report of Committee of the Whole

Orders of the Day

The House met at 1:31 p.m.

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Prayer

Prayer

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Good afternoon, colleagues. Orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers’ statements. The honourable Minister of Health and Social Services , Mr. Abernethy .

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Minister's Statement 12-17(5): Anti-Poverty Roundtable And Next Steps

Prayer

Great Slave

Glen Abernethy

Minister of Health and Social Services

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Our government is committed to this Assembly’s goal of helping our residents become healthy, educated people free from poverty. A strong territory needs a strong society, and all residents of the NWT should have the chance to enjoy the benefits of living in a prosperous, well-governed territory and to participate fully in a healthy, just society.

Last June I was pleased to table the Anti-Poverty Strategic Framework: Building on the Strengths of Northerners . This important document represents input from key stakeholders and was an important first step.

Later today I will table in the House the GNWT’s initial response to the framework. Our government’s Anti-Poverty Action Plan outlines the commitments we will make, starting immediately, to improve our response to poverty in the NWT. Our action plan includes investments of $2.6 million. This new funding will support day shelter programs in Yellowknife and Inuvik, and to build new housing units in four small communities for residents who may need additional support. It will see $1 million in new spending every year to provide nutritious food directly to children and youth through established programs.

This demonstrates our government’s commitment to taking leadership in the reduction of poverty in our territory and will form a part of the territorial action plan which will include actions by all sectors and all regions of the NWT. But that is only a start.

We have always recognized that this government can’t tackle this issue alone. We need to partner

with communities, Aboriginal governments, non-government organizations and business.

Mr. Speaker, on November 28 and 29, 2013, an NWT Anti-Poverty Roundtable was held in Detah to begin the work of developing a territorial action plan. Many delegates in attendance left with concrete plans for action and a commitment to stat on them as soon as they returned to their community. Everyone in attendance at the roundtable agreed that it is time to move from talk to action, and that is what we are doing. The budget includes $500,000 in new funding to support communities, Aboriginal governments and non-government organizations to get moving on community-based projects.

An Anti-Poverty Charter was presented to the delegates at the roundtable. This charter symbolizes our commitment as stakeholders to work together, at all levels, towards the development of a territorial action plan.

Twenty-four delegates signed on to the charter. Other organizations have subsequently signed on and we will continue to invite partners to join us.

Mr. Speaker, through the anti-poverty initiative funding proposed in the budget, we are also establishing an Anti-Poverty Action Plan Advisory Committee, including representatives from regions across the Northwest Territories, to lead the development of the territorial Anti-Poverty Action Plan over the next year. This work will be undertaken in collaboration with stakeholders.

This committee will work within their regions to raise awareness and build capacity and will provide recommendations to the Minister.

As with any major initiative, it is important to have a way of measuring progress. Funding in the budget will enable the Department of Health and Social Services to lead the development of a Performance Management Framework that will allow all partners to report consistently on our activities and track our overall progress.

Mr. Speaker, I am confident that, working together, these initiatives will continue to move us closer to our goal of eliminating poverty in the Northwest Territories. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Prayer

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . The honourable Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment , Mr. Ramsay .

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Minister's Statement 13-17(5): Successful Trade Mission To China

Prayer

Kam Lake

David Ramsay

Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Last month I accompanied Premier Bob McLeod and Mr. Robert Hawkins , Member for Yellowknife Centre , along with delegates from our territory’s business community on a trade mission to Beijing, Shanghai and Hong Kong. The business representatives from the Northwest Territories were Mr. Robin Goad, president of Fortune Minerals; Ms. Verda Law, Yellowknife Tours; Mr. Deepak Kumar, Deepak International; Mr. Fernando Alvarez, president of Jacques Cartier Clothier; and Mr. Mark Downey, CEO of Fur Harvesters Auction Ltd.

Our visit was an important part of the GNWT’s work to develop closer ties with China and the immense market potential it holds, particularly for our territory’s fur, tourism and diamond sectors.

Building relationships with Chinese business and tourism leaders, expanding markets for our products and encouraging investment all strengthen and diversify our economy, a priority of the 17th Legislative Assembly.

This trip provided us an opportunity to follow up with contacts we made during the Council of the Federation trade mission in 2012, where we had productive meetings with the Chinese Vice- Premier , Minister of Finance and leaders in the business community regarding trade and investment opportunities.

The 40th Annual Beijing Fur and Leather Show was

a main focus of our mission. China is the world’s leading manufacturer of fur garments, and their demand for NWT wild fur is high and continues to rise every year. Currently, 80 percent of all NWT wild fur ends up in China; a significant number. Our genuine Mackenzie Valley fur is recognized as a premium product that Chinese designers want to work with, and perhaps more importantly, it is a product that the growing Chinese middle class loves to wear.

Our meetings in Hong Kong helped us to understand this city’s relationship with mainland China. Hong Kong is the gateway to China and an international financial hub. Our fur and tourism sectors have enormous growth potential in this market.

Mr. Speaker, our promotion of the NWT as an exciting location for Chinese tourists was also well received. I am happy to confirm to Members that representatives of the Chinese travel industry are especially interested in aurora tourism. We have seen an increase in Chinese travelers this year,

and by following up with the connections we made, we hope to consistently grow this number.

In addition to promoting NWT Tourism’s new Aurora Capital of the World brand, our meetings and presentations offered numerous opportunities to showcase the wonders and natural beauty of our territory’s regions.

Chinese visitors are interested in authentic cultural experiences, and we took this opportunity to highlight our emerging Aboriginal tourism sector.

During the delegation’s time in Shanghai and Hong Kong, we focused our efforts on tourism and diamonds. I toured the Shanghai Diamond Exchange and promoted the NWT’s diamond sector from both a mining and secondary manufacturing perspective.

Mr. Speaker, China offers the potential to be more than just a source of consumers for our economy. The Chinese manufacturing sector has grown considerably in the past decade, and there is great interest in our territory’s wealth of raw resources and the potential for future trade.

The Premier and I met with investors familiar with the Canadian investment environment, who were excited to learn of opportunities in the Northwest Territories. We highlighted our rich mining history and the need for capital investment in new mines, infrastructure development and our untapped oil and gas sector.

The collective purpose of our government’s trade mission in January was to strengthen trade ties with China and build and establish relationships with Chinese government, businesses and organizations.

With over 25 meetings in three major centres, I can assure Members of this Assembly that we surpassed this goal.

Mr. Speaker, we must act on the momentum from this trip and build on the opportunities that will grow and diversify our economy. I look forward to highlighting for Members of this Assembly the real and tangible outcomes of our work in China as they come to fruition. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 13-17(5): Successful Trade Mission To China

Prayer

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . Colleagues, before we go on today, I would like to welcome back into the House former Member for Nunakput , Mr. Ernie Bernhardt.

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The honourable Minister of Human Resources , Mr. Beaulieu .

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Minister's Statement 14-17(5): Canada’s Best Diversity Employers 2014

Prayer

Tu Nedhe

Tom Beaulieu

Minister of Human Resources

I am very pleased to announce that for the second year in a row the Government of the Northwest Territories has been

chosen as one of Canada’s Best Diversity Employers. This award is presented by Canada’s Top Employers at Mediacorp Canada Inc., which manages the competition in partnership with the Globe and Mail and recognizes employers across Canada with exceptional workplace diversity and inclusiveness practices.

Mr. Speaker, diversity is a core value of the NWT public service. It enables us to create a workplace that represents the population we serve, that is open to contributions from all, and where everyone has the opportunity to achieve their full potential. As a central goal of the NWT Public Service Strategic Plan, 20/20: A Brilliant North, the GNWT has undertaken many initiatives to develop and encourage a diverse, inclusive workforce.

We have recognized the importance of establishing a culture of understanding and cooperation among our employees through training and communications. I am particularly pleased with the Aboriginal Cultural Awareness Training program which was launched last June. Available to all employees as well as the public, this training enhances employee understanding of Aboriginal culture and reaffirms the fundamental importance the GNWT places on including Aboriginal values in program design and delivery.

As well last year, we continued our very successful disabilities awareness campaign that highlighted knowledge and acceptance of physical, social and invisible disabilities in the workplace.

Mr. Speaker, diversity and inclusion characterize all of our recruitment and human resource management practices. We work closely with the Aboriginal Employees Advisory Committee and the GNWT’s Advisory Committee on Employability – known as GACE – which advise our human resource practitioners on ways to improve the recruitment, retention and advancement of Aboriginal employees and persons with disabilities. The Department of Human Resources has committed positions to assist employees and supervisors with inclusion and workplace accommodation, such as the diversity officer and duty to accommodate advisor positions.

We have also implemented a number of initiatives targeted directly at increasing the representation of Aboriginal persons at all levels of the public service. The Aboriginal Management Development Program is intended to enhance and facilitate workforce planning for senior management and management positions by developing qualified Aboriginal persons to fill management roles. Formerly called the Associate Director/Superintendent Program, it has recently been expanded to support up to eight participants at one time and been broadened beyond its original focus on senior management positions to now include manager-level positions.

Mr. Speaker, I am also anticipating the results of the Aboriginal Inclusion Survey concluded in December. This survey, conducted in partnership with the Aboriginal Human Resource Council, will assist us by identifying strengths, weaknesses and trends in the way we engage as an employer with Aboriginal people in the NWT. The department is expecting a detailed report of the results in March, and I look forward to sharing the results when they are ready.

Mr. Speaker, thousands of employers from across Canada, both large and small, are considered each year to be recognized as one of Canada’s Best Diversity Employers. That the GNWT has been chosen for a second time reflects our position as an industry leader and role model for the advancement of diversity in the workplace and the value we have given to a public service that encourages participation by all. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 14-17(5): Canada’s Best Diversity Employers 2014

Prayer

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . Item 3, Members’ statements. The honourable Member for Weledeh , Mr. Bromley .

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Tribute To Winter Olympian Michael Gilday

Members’ Statements

Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today is Gilday Day, as declared by the mayor of Yellowknife, and I am pleased to see Members wearing red to honour Michael.

Today at 4:00 a.m., I joined a gathering of Northerners who overnighted at the Yellowknife Fieldhouse to cheer on Michael Gilday in his Olympic debut. Every athlete at these Olympic Games is a champion and Michael is no exception. His years of dedication, hard work and perseverance is reflected in his ability to compete with the best in the world.

Michael’s individual achievements are impressive and we are proud of them. While speed skating may appear to be a competition between individuals, Michael’s success shows that speed skating is, in fact, a team sport.

At 140 skaters, the Yellowknife Speed Skating Club is the largest in Canada. For 35 years athletes have figured prominently in the Arctic Winter Games, Western Canada Games, Canadian and world championships. Clearly, there are some very special, dedicated people supporting our speed skaters. From parents to coaches, volunteers, communities and sponsors, right down to the Zamboni operators, all are part of this Olympic achievement.

Locally, I would like to mention Shane Clark, head coach; and Karin Clark, president of the Yellowknife Speed Skating Club; Pam Dunbar, Michael’s

mother, president of the NWT Speed Skating Association and David Gilday, his dad, a long-time coach and a huge force in the NWT speed skating world.

Benefits ripple through our society. A Michael Gilday T-shirt signed by the Canadian Men’s Speed Skating Team auctioned Saturday night raised $2,900 for the Yellowknife Community Foundation. The community all-nighter at the Fieldhouse was festooned with red T-shirts designed by Sarah Erasmus of Erasmus Apparel. The sale of over 300 “I’m on Michael’s Team” T-shirts enabled the donation of $3,000 in profits to Kid Sport NWT. I’m proud to say that all these officials and Sarah are Weledeh constituents.

We are proud of Michael Gilday and fellow Olympian Northerners Brendan Green and Jesse Cockney competing in Sochi this week. Please join me in celebrating their accomplishments and honouring the NWT-wide families and volunteers who help our athletes on their path to success. Mahsi.

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Tribute To Winter Olympian Michael Gilday

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . Member for Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Access To Palliative Care Services In The Sahtu Region

Members’ Statements

Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My Member’s statement is on the ongoing requests of the people, especially the family members of the elders. They have been asking for a palliative care service in Deline.

There are 54 elders 60 years and over in Deline. People have asked since last year when the letter was written to the previous Minister, Tom Beaulieu , when he visited the community. Upon his visit there, people wrote a letter and asked if there could be a possibility of putting two palliative care beds in the existing community wellness building.

People have noticed that since 1994, when the facility was shut down for reasons only the government has known, there were people trained there, and people want to see their elders be brought back to their community, especially in their last dying days. The community has seen a lot of their elders pass away outside in the other facilities, which makes it very hard for family members to come to Yellowknife or Inuvik to get the last words from the elders. When elders are called, some family members can’t make it because of the high cost of an airline ticket, when they don’t see their elders before they pass away.

Elders in our culture always want to provide words of wisdom. It’s a special time to give messages to the young people, especially to their family members.

So, they have been asking for a long, long time for palliative care beds in Deline, and I want to ask the

Minister, what plans, what stage and where are we at with the budget that we have in front of us – we have another capital planning budget ahead of us – if there’s a possibility of granting the wish of the elders in Deline. For the leadership and for the people, I think they’re excited and they want to see this continue and not just fall off the books in regards to their request. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Organizational Changes To Dehcho Health And Social Services Authority

Members’ Statements

Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I’m glad that the Minister of Health and Social Services travelled to Fort Simpson and we hosted a public meeting on the future of the Dehcho Health and Social Services Authority. I’m also pleased to see that the public administrator, Mr. Jim Antoine, of the Dehcho Health and Social Services, is making efforts to go to the communities to explain where the health board is going.

As they heard, I’m sure, community and residents are still very concerned about potential changes to the structure of the Dehcho Health and Social Services. The Minister and the Department of Health and Social Services are contemplating administrative changes since the health board was not appointed in March of last year. Communities and regions want more autonomy, not less. With the new potential streamlining of our boards, I remain cautiously optimistic, as I do not want my constituency to lose jobs.

I do support sharing of health professionals and leveraging of bulk purchases by all health authorities. I’m also pleased that they heard it is important that we need to restore community involvement in policy and delivery of health in our small, remote communities through some type of regional council.

Residents are also very concerned about medical travel and the apparent wastage. They’re pleased to see that there’s a plan to review it. When you do, I suggest you allow as much public input as you can. Our residents are the ones that are most impacted by medical travel and will have the best suggestions. For instance, in small communities medical escorts are often the same person and unemployed and have the time to travel, but they do not receive any stipend at all and find themselves in Yellowknife or Edmonton with little or no money for long periods of time.

Getting back the future of the Dehcho Health and Social Services, the Department of Health and Social Services cannot take all the responsibility away from my communities.

Later today I will be asking the Minister of Health questions on this initiative. Mahsi.

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Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . The Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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MLA Information Requests

Members’ Statements

Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Recently, I wanted to share information about an upcoming public meeting, information previously published by the Cabinet press secretary in a news release several months ago. I wanted to verify the information before my office published it, so we contacted the government person listed on the media release to do that.

A media release is a public document, so we anticipated an easy answer, but it was not to be. Yes, my office got confirmation of the information, but we were also advised, reminded perhaps, that all requests from an MLA’s office have to be funneled through the Minister’s office so they can track the requests.

I couldn’t believe what I was hearing. A request from an MLA’s office for information already in the public domain has to take the long, protracted, torturous and winding path through the Minister’s office to the department and back again, tying up many people’s time and energy, creating an unnecessary delay in determining the answer to a simple yes or no question. Hardly the best use of our government resources.

What surprised me the most about this situation was that my office had to ask the Minister for information already in the public domain, but any member of the public, like my neighbour for instance, could contact the department directly and receive an immediate answer.

There’s something wrong with this picture. I can understand a Minister’s desire to protect his departmental staff from demanding MLAs and their CAs. I can understand that sensitive and involved inquiries must be funneled through the Minister’s office, but information already in the public domain? Surely that could be provided direct from the department to the MLA. The response from ECE frustrated me considerably. I don’t believe this mindset, this policy exists in all departments, but it certainly is alive and well at ECE.

The Minister must rethink his communication and information sharing policy with MLA offices. It has

to be easy for us as elected public servants to serve our constituents, a job we are presumably sworn to do. How can we do that job well, Mr. Speaker, when we are stonewalled on the simplest of inquiries? Thank you.

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MLA Information Requests

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . The Member for Inuvik Boot Lake , Mr. Moses .

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Mental Health Services In The Beaufort-Delta

Members’ Statements

Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Last month I was able to attend the AGM for the Beaufort-Delta Health and Social Services Authority in Inuvik where a lot of really surprising stats caught my attention in terms of how services are brought forth within that authority, and the hard work that the staff are trying to do moving forward in terms of having to do the best they can with the resources that they receive and the funding that they receive through this government.

Some interesting stats that I’d like to share with committee, the Members here today and Cabinet were in terms of mental health and counselling services and psychiatric services, something that I’ve been a champion for within this government since the beginning of this Legislature.

With the counselling service in the Beaufort-Delta there were 699 new referrals in this last fiscal year. Of that, 3,186 hours were spent providing direct counselling. That equals about 424 days, regular job days, and that’s not even including any type of administrative work, paperwork or any other type of follow-up. Of those that were referred to counselling, there were also 43 percent no-shows. Even if there was a fraction of those no-shows that showed up, it would have put a more extensive workload on the counsellors that are already providing very long services already.

However, there are some good things that were discussed and that was the Beaufort-Delta Health and Social Services Authority provided some 237 community education events in terms of prevention and promotion, something that this government has discussed and brought forth over the last couple of years, and that equates to about 403 hours spent providing education to people across the Northwest Territories; well, particularly in the Beaufort-Delta region.

This only reflects a portion of the communities in the Northwest Territories. If we were to get these kinds of stats throughout all health authorities across the NWT, I’m sure it’s going to show us that we do need to provide more funding, more services, more resources throughout the Northwest Territories.

I will ask questions to the Minister of Health and Social Services later, on how we are attacking this problem and how we are able to find solutions.

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Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Moses . The Member for Range Lake , Mr. Dolynny .

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Worker Exposure To Arsenic At Giant Mine Remediation Site

Members’ Statements

Daryl Dolynny

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A little less than two weeks ago, the NWT and all Regular Members woke up to news reports that more than 30 employees were critically exposed to arsenic at the Giant Mine remediation site. At this point, we have no idea how these employees were exposed, how long they were exposed, when this government and WSCC were notified of this incident and, more importantly, what is being done.

Why do Members of the House and the people of the Northwest Territories have to be notified via surprise media reports of such disasters? Why do we have to hear quotes from the president of WSCC saying, “There’s a disconnect somewhere where these people are getting exposure and they’re not supposed to.” What are these disconnects? We know this is a federal cleanup initiative. This is a given. But the contractor is local and these employees are covered under health and safety jurisdiction, and like any other business in the NWT, there are rules to follow, especially with dealing with high-risk work.

What is further perplexing is that this government may have been aware of this serious arsenic exposure issue for many months, so again, it seems I ask this question every session: Why, in a consensus government, are Members not informed of such problems? Why do we get the feeling of a perceived cover-up? Even as of today, we have yet to hear anything concrete coming from this government or the federal government on what is to become of these high tested arsenic employees, the contractor or the future cleanup initiatives of Giant Mine.

The bigger question is: How many more health and safety issues are out there with this remediation cleanup work? When is it more important to hide from the truth behind the Giant Mine curtain than to come clean with issues affecting the health and safety of our employees?

On the mind of many, and it must be said here today, when do cleanup profits take a front seat to human safety? It is clear, I have many more questions here today than answers in my Members statement. Therefore, I will be asking the Minister responsible for Workers' Safety and Compensation Commission of the Northwest Territories to help demystify this arsenic caper later today.

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Worker Exposure To Arsenic At Giant Mine Remediation Site

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny . The Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Blake .

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Medical Escort Policy

Members’ Statements

Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I would like to speak on medical patients, more so on the issue that the majority of these patients require medical care that cannot be provided by the local health centres. My focus is on our patients who travel from their home communities to larger centres, such as Inuvik, Yellowknife and, in most cases, Edmonton, and are in need of medical escorts. I’d like to ask the Minister to take this issue on a more serious note and listen to the pleas that are coming from patients who are requesting medical escorts and are yet denied.

When my constituents call me, write me letters telling me that they’re sick, when they are weak and have no strength to travel, when they can’t speak for themselves and when they don’t understand, I need to speak for them and let this Assembly know that we cannot continue operating the way we do. Changes need to be made in order for our people to be more comfortable.

Another thing on that same note, medical escorts are a huge support for patients that are going to see the doctor when they are told they have life-threatening illnesses such as cancer. It’s alarming and shocking, and the patients have their escorts to rely on. The escorts are there to make the patient comfortable, to ease their fear of travelling to large centres and to be a support when diagnoses are given.

I would like to know if the Minister can assist medical patients who are requesting escorts, to seriously consider their request. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Medical Escort Policy

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Blake . Member for Deh Cho , Mr. Nadli .

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Wild Mushroom Harvest

Members’ Statements

Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. The people of the Deh Cho very highly value the natural abundance of the land and water surrounding our communities.

Wild mushroom harvest in the area is a tremendous potential for my region. Wild mushrooms are highly sought after for their variety and flavour. Morels themselves cost as much as $120 apiece, and a Member of the previous Assembly reported pine mushrooms fetching as much as $300 per pound in some markets. Like berries, they add a distinct northern character to a meat dish.

The first organized harvest of wild morels in the Northwest Territories took place almost 15 years

ago, but since then we haven’t done very much to capitalize on this opportunity. A number of times, entrepreneurs have had huge profits from northern mushrooms, while just a few lucky Northerners pocketed only a small fraction of the benefits.

Fortunately, mushrooms are a renewable resource. Last year wild fires devastated Deh Cho forests and we can expect a new crop of mushrooms this year. Many of these areas are easily accessible by highway, and the people of Fort Providence are ready to harvest mushrooms the way they already pick berries.

For many years the lack of provisions in the forest management legislation has prevented commercial mushroom harvest. As the Northwest Territories takes control of our land and resources, we have a prime opportunity to update the Northwest Territories Forest Management Act and make it possible for our residents to harvest and sell wild mushrooms as well as berries, herbal teas and other bounty of the northern wild.

For far too long we have watched our local produce snatched up by mushroom-savvy Southerners, and I am afraid that this coming year that will only happen again.

Local communities should be the first to profit from the harvest of our renewable resources. It would be unacceptable for southern entrepreneurs to come in and try to trap our furs, mine our diamonds or drill for oil without the involvement of local Aboriginal people.

I urge this government to move forward on a sound agricultural policy and changes to the Northwest Territories Forest Management Act, to ensure that we can make the most of harvesting the northern wild. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Wild Mushroom Harvest

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Nadli . Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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GNWT Position Vacancies

Members’ Statements

Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As the public becomes increasingly aware, the ideas and concerns of Regular Members seem to matter little with this government. I ask anyone to show me one recommendation from Members and the committees in this budget.

However, the interested public here watching us do our work certainly get to realize that we learn things all the time, such as these job vacancy rates.

I have to give credit to MLA Blake and certainly MLA Groenewegen the other day, who certainly got it right. When it comes to those 800 vacancies, the public wants to know, where are they? This government seems to be tucking them away in hiding and saving them for what reason I have yet to know.

The public wants to know. They are asking questions. Where are these jobs? How long have they been empty? How much are they costing this government, and even more importantly, where is the money going?

The public deserves these types of answers. We didn’t get them the other day to either Mr. Blake ’s or certainly Mrs. Groenewegen ’s questions. We need these on the record.

The government says that they are actively recruiting these 571 jobs. I ask where. The public asks where. The public feels insulted by this particular problem.

Mr. Speaker, you yourself know, as a small community MLA, and all small community MLAs know, that the community employment rates are at dismal levels. If we had the ability to help these community rates with these types of jobs, these 571 jobs that mysteriously showed up that no one has ever seen before, they would help regional rates, and regional rates would help northern rates, and northern rates… Everybody working would help everybody. It would be good for the whole North. But where are they being tucked away? I personally don’t know where these hidden jobs are.

Recently, we heard about the job fair in Ottawa, and I’m certainly not against sending a job fair out, looking for special employment type of people that you just can’t get off the street. It makes sense sometimes, because those skills and qualifications may not be easily found. But I’ll tell you, the average Northerner is starting to wonder: does this government not care about them? Do they need to go to job fairs in Ottawa and shut them out of what should be northern opportunities? I know many families have passionately invested their lives into the North, and they’re feeling shut out by the circumstance.

Let me finish by this: Over the last 10 years, the unemployment rate has done nothing but increase in the Northwest Territories. I will tell you, by going to the NWT Bureau of Stats website it will show you that over the last two years of the McLeod government, it has sharply increased.

We need to get Northerners employed; we need to get Northerners working; and I’d say we need to do it now. Thank you.

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GNWT Position Vacancies

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . Member for Hay River North , Mr. Bouchard .

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NWT Fishing Industry

Members’ Statements

Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday, as I was able to enjoy some dry fish from the Beaufort-Delta area, I came up with a Member’s statement here.

I know that in the Northwest Territories we value these northern fish. Whether we fry it, bake it, barbeque it, smoke it, or even enjoy it dried, it’s an important asset to the Northwest Territories.

In the Hay River area, in the Great Slave area, we catch it, a lot of it. One million pounds last year, the Minister was able to announce last November. One million.

Our fishers are working hard out there in this industry. They have increased the production over the last couple of years and made it over that million pounds.

The recent successes in the industry don't indicate the fact that we have to support them more. We have to increase the amount of the fishers out there and the supports that they have.

As we sit here and debate resource revenue sharing of these non-renewable resources, we should be focussing on this opportunity that we have in renewable resources like our fisheries. If we support and train these Northerners to stay here, this will have a direct impact on our economy, and we won’t have to be dealing with what the price of some commodity on the world market is. These are direct jobs directly affecting Northerners.

Later today I will have questions for the Minister of ITI about some of the money that they’ve talked about in the budget, supporting the industry, where that money is going to be and how we’re going to put these people to work. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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NWT Fishing Industry

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bouchard . Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery.

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Recognitions of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Colleagues, I wish to welcome some very special visitors in the gallery here today. We have 10 young men and women, who are participating in the Ontario Legislature Internship Program, visiting us all this week. I understand they’re looking forward to seeing consensus government at work, and I assure them that you’ve come to the right place.

I’d like to recognize – once your name is called, please stand up – Emily Barrette, Jessica Behnke, Mitchell Davidson, Aaron Denhartog, Vanessa Dupuis, Amanda Garofalo, Taylor Lew, Lauren Miller, Melinda Munding and Douglas Wong.

On behalf of all Members of the Legislative Assembly, I welcome you here to the Northwest Territories. Welcome to our Chamber.

Item 6, acknowledgements. Item 7, oral questions. Member for Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Question 63-17(5): Access To Palliative Care Services In The Sahtu Region

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Health and Social Services, and it goes to my Member’s statement on palliative care for the people in the community of Deline. It has been a big issue for some time, and actually since 1993 they’ve had units that were there for extended care shut down in 1994. They’ve made some changes to it. However, my letter of 2005-2006, just an update from last year from the previous Minister of Health and Social Services that went into Deline.

People in the community of Deline are asking that the existing community wellness building have two beds dedicated for elders who are on the last days of life in this world, if they could look at that building being renovated so that we can have two palliative care beds in the community of Deline.

Can the Minister give me a brief update as to where he is now with that request?

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Question 63-17(5): Access To Palliative Care Services In The Sahtu Region

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . The Minister of Health and Social Services , Mr. Abernethy .

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Question 63-17(5): Access To Palliative Care Services In The Sahtu Region

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The department is actually currently completing a Territorial Palliative Care Framework and Action Plan, which is going to guide us on the delivery of community-based palliative care services throughout the Northwest Territories, and this plan and action plan are expected to be completed by the end of March 2014. Once that’s done we’ll be in a better position to have a discussion about what we can do with existing infrastructure and new infrastructure.

I do know that with all new infrastructure that we’re building with respect to long-term care facilities, we are including one palliative care bed and one respite bed. So that’s all new facilities we’re building. I’ll be in a better position to talk about what we’ll do in the communities otherwise once this action plan is done, and I would be happy to have discussions with the Member and committee once that is done. Thank you.

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Question 63-17(5): Access To Palliative Care Services In The Sahtu Region

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Can the Minister commit to meeting the people of Deline and the people of the Sahtu, once the report has been completed, that there will be some specific discussions for the community of Deline on their request to have palliative care services? Is that something that we could look at working on, on a going forward basis, because the capital infrastructure budget will be coming up shortly after that.

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Question 63-17(5): Access To Palliative Care Services In The Sahtu Region

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

At the invite of the community or the Member, I’m happy to visit his

constituency and talk about any issues that the residents may have. Thank you.

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Question 63-17(5): Access To Palliative Care Services In The Sahtu Region

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

I know once we get Ministers into our communities, there are issues even without the Minister’s role or responsibility. There are all kinds of issues. So, specifically, I want to have the Minister put some emphasis on the request for palliative beds in the community of Deline, and certainly as I’m standing here today, I will be inviting the Minister into Deline. When we have time we can go into that community. So I want to ask the Minister to talk about specifically the palliative care request that the people in Deline have.

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Question 63-17(5): Access To Palliative Care Services In The Sahtu Region

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

I’d like to thank the Member for the invitation. We will certainly come to the community and we will come prepared. Thank you.

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Question 63-17(5): Access To Palliative Care Services In The Sahtu Region

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . The Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Question 64-17(5): Organizational Changes To Dehcho Health And Social Services Authority

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I just want to follow up on my Member’s statement about the Dehcho Health and Social Services Authority and where we are and where we’re going.

I was pleased that the Minister of Health and Social Services was in Fort Simpson and had the ability to explain to residents, I think it was like a bird’s eye view plan of the health authority. So I’d just like to ask the Minister and get it on record here in the House, once again, on behalf of my constituents, the Dehcho Health and Social Services Authority does not have an existing board.

What is the plan for the Dehcho Health and Social Service Authority as we move forward? Mahsi.

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Question 64-17(5): Organizational Changes To Dehcho Health And Social Services Authority

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . The Minister of Health and Social Services , Mr. Abernethy .

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Question 64-17(5): Organizational Changes To Dehcho Health And Social Services Authority

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We are committed to ensuring that we have mechanisms that allow the voice of the people to be heard with respect to health and social services authorities. The Member is right; we do have a public administrator providing us the direction from the Dehcho at this point in time. We are exploring options for changing our structure so that we can provide better health, better care and better results for our residents throughout the Northwest Territories. In that model, I believe and I’m committed to ensuring that the people for the regions and the communities continue to have a voice in the delivery of their health and social services.

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Question 64-17(5): Organizational Changes To Dehcho Health And Social Services Authority

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Part of the Dehcho Health and Social Services authority is spread over basically two constituencies, Nahendeh and Deh Cho. There was some talk about utilizing the Hay River hospital as opposed to everybody coming to Yellowknife. Can the Minister comment on that?

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Question 64-17(5): Organizational Changes To Dehcho Health And Social Services Authority

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

What we are trying to accomplish is a more integrated system of health and social services delivery in the Northwest Territories so that a resident in a community can receive seamless care through the whole system from their community of origin to any facility that can provide them the services they need. With a more integrated system, we can maximize our benefits of having patients go to other locations as opposed to just focusing, say, on Yellowknife.

We’ll be able to flow patients to Inuvik, Hay River or wherever we can provide the best service in the best time for the best results, so it could conceivably include individuals, depending on conditions, utilizing the services that will be available in Hay River.

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Question 64-17(5): Organizational Changes To Dehcho Health And Social Services Authority

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

I’d like to thank the Minister for that answer. As well as the old board and the authority, we had one member from each community sitting on a governance council. Just how would that kind of community input be involved in this new structure that the Minister is thinking about?

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Question 64-17(5): Organizational Changes To Dehcho Health And Social Services Authority

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Those discussions still need to be had and ironed out, for the most part. We do know we want to, and must, maintain regional and community input, but every region and every authority that exists today is different and has a different catchment area, and the individuals that need to be represented may be different, so it’s not going to be one model fits all. We’re going to have to talk to the people from the Deh Cho with respect to that particular area, as we’ll need to talk to the people from the Tlicho, the Sahtu, the Beaufort-Delta as well as Yellowknife.

We need to have those discussions, and we will be having those discussions as we move forward. We are currently out seeking input and some guidance and having discussions with communities throughout the Northwest Territories as well as committee.

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Question 64-17(5): Organizational Changes To Dehcho Health And Social Services Authority

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Menicoche .

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Question 64-17(5): Organizational Changes To Dehcho Health And Social Services Authority

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I’d just like to ask the Minister to continue to keep my constituents and our residents informed as we move along. I know that sometimes we get ahead of ourselves when we get an idea. I think that’s important, and of course, I’d like to ask the Minister to return to Nahendeh for a fuller tour later on this spring as we move along with this bird’s eye view of health authorities in the Northwest Territories.

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Question 64-17(5): Organizational Changes To Dehcho Health And Social Services Authority

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

I believe it’s important to get to the communities to meet with the residents. As the Minister of Health and Social Services , I’m absolutely committed to do that. I’ll take that as an invitation, and I’ll have my staff work with the Member’s staff and we’ll work out a date.

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Question 64-17(5): Organizational Changes To Dehcho Health And Social Services Authority

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . The Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Blake .

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Question 65-17(5): Medical Travel Escort Policy

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just to follow up to my Member’s statement, I’d like to ask the Minister of Health and Social Services , what process does the department follow for medical escorts for the elderly?

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Question 65-17(5): Medical Travel Escort Policy

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Blake . The Minister of Health , Mr. Abernethy .

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Question 65-17(5): Medical Travel Escort Policy

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There is a policy in place. I do acknowledge that the policy is quite old, and we have heard significant feedback from residents from across the Northwest Territories that it does need to be reviewed. We have committed to doing that review. I did meet with Members in January to talk about the review, the timeline for the review. We will have a policy, a redrafted policy shortly, and from there we will have an opportunity to discuss and go out for consultation on the individual components which do include escorts. We will have an opportunity to amend that portion of the Medical Travel Policy, and we will be seeking input from Members and from the public as we do so.

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Question 65-17(5): Medical Travel Escort Policy

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

I’d also like to ask the Minister, why are medical escorts denied when approved by the doctor?

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Question 65-17(5): Medical Travel Escort Policy

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

There is a policy in place and recommendations do have to come for an escort and sometimes they don’t meet the policy as it stands, which is another indication that there seems to be a glitch in the matrix, if you will, and we need to work on this policy and we need to fix this policy. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 65-17(5): Medical Travel Escort Policy

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

I also mentioned in my statement a need for support more along the lines of counselling when dealing with life-threatening illnesses.

I would like to ask the Minister, will the Minister develop these support programs? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 65-17(5): Medical Travel Escort Policy

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

There are a variety of conditions that our residents may be facing with respect to health. I know that we are doing a significant number of things around cancer and have cancer support groups and other groups and mechanisms that are available to individuals that are suffering from particular conditions. If the Member has some other conditions or some

specific conditions that he would like to talk about, I would certainly be open to that discussion and encourage him to come down the hall and we can have that conversation. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 65-17(5): Medical Travel Escort Policy

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Blake .

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Question 65-17(5): Medical Travel Escort Policy

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, I would just like to ask the Minister, are those supports available to the people in the small communities? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 65-17(5): Medical Travel Escort Policy

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, I know that we do have individuals in each of the regions who are providing services out to the smaller communities and there are opportunities through telehealth where some of those groups can connect.

As far as the communities the Member represents, I would be happy to provide the Member with a little bit of breakdown of some of these supports we are providing with respect to these cancer support groups. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 65-17(5): Medical Travel Escort Policy

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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Question 66-17(5): MLA Information Requests

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are addressed to the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, and I would like to follow up on my Member’s statement and see if I can get some clarity as to the department’s policies.

I would like to first ask the Minister, what is the policy of Education, Culture and Employment, the department and/or the Minister around communicating public information to MLAs, either the MLA themselves or their staff? Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Lafferty .

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Question 66-17(5): MLA Information Requests

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. There is a mutual agreement with the MLAs on guiding principles and process convention that we want to have a coordinated approach with our departments, not only my departments but other departments. Once it is funnelled through my department, we are fully aware of what is out there. But an independent agency or organization or MLA’s office go directly to the department and we need to keep track of those activities, those transactions. Those are just mere transactions that we need to be fully aware of. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 66-17(5): MLA Information Requests

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Mr. Speaker, thanks to the Minister, I think. I really am struggling to understand why public information must be routed through the Minister’s office. Were I a general citizen and not an elected official, I could phone the name on the

press release and ask for the confirmation of the information directly.

So, I need to ask the Minister why he feels that information that is publically available must be requested through his office and why my office cannot go directly to his department and ask for it. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 66-17(5): MLA Information Requests

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, again, with a coordinated effort and approach, we need to keep track of all the transactions that are happening within my department. I need to be on top of any request that comes in through an MLA so we are on top of answering their questions. We give immediate answer back, within five days. If it is a day-based operation, then we can definitely give it in a day. It is just a reporting mechanism, keeping track of all the transactions that are flowing through our department within the GNWT government-wide. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 66-17(5): MLA Information Requests

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

I guess I need to say to the Minister that if I had asked for this information through his office, it probably wouldn’t have arrived in time for me to communicate that information to my constituents in advance of that meeting, so I have a real difficulty with everything having to go through his office.

I would like to ask the Minister, if he needs to track every request that comes from a Minister’s office, why cannot requests for public information asked of one of his staff of the department, why can that staff person, or a communications person, why can they not track that information or that request? Thank you.

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Question 66-17(5): MLA Information Requests

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

That is happening at the same time as well. As you know, the Department of Education, Culture and Employment is the second biggest department along with Health and Social Services. We go through so many transactions throughout the day and we just want to be mindful of the requests that come in, so we can be prepared for the session and prepared for any briefings that may come up. So, we’re on top of the activities that are happening or transactions that may come across our table.

At the end of the day, we just want to keep track of all the transactions that are going through. We may have missed out on some areas, but we try to be on top of it every step of the way. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 66-17(5): MLA Information Requests

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Final, short supplementary, Ms. Bisaro .

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Question 66-17(5): MLA Information Requests

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate the Minister’s desire to be on top of things, but if he really thinks that I’m going to be asking him questions about public information about a meeting that’s upcoming, I have a hard time understanding that.

I would like to know if there is any hope that the Minister might change this policy. I’m talking about public information, something that’s already in the public domain. It’s been released through a press release or a media advisory.

Is there any hope that he will change his policy and allow his staff to talk to my staff to confirm public information? Thank you.

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Question 66-17(5): MLA Information Requests

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

There is always hope.

---Laughter

Honestly, I can work with the Member and have that brought to my department to discuss further. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 66-17(5): MLA Information Requests

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . The honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake , Mr. Moses .

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Question 67-17(5): Mental Health Services In The Beaufort-Delta

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am going to follow up on some of the alarming stats that were presented to us by the health authority in the Beaufort-Delta region on the amount of hours spent on counselling, the amount of no-shows, the referrals, especially the amount of new referrals. There were 699 new referrals to counselling services.

One thing that I have brought up in this House, and I’ll do it again today, is our psychiatric services in terms of assessments. Some of these clients might be going through counselling over and over again without getting the proper assessments they need because we only have so much psychiatric services in the Northwest Territories.

I’d like to ask the Minister, what is he doing to improve our psychiatric services so we can do the proper assessments for people in the Northwest Territories moving forward in this upcoming fiscal year? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Moses . The honourable Minister of Health , Mr. Abernethy .

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Question 67-17(5): Mental Health Services In The Beaufort-Delta

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Great Slave

Glen Abernethy

Minister of Health and Social Services

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Psychiatric services in the Northwest Territories have been enhanced through a partnership between Stanton Territorial Health Authority as well as Dalhousie Global Psychiatry and Yellowknife Health and Social Services. As the Member knows, there are two resident psychiatrists in the Northwest Territories, and mental health services, as I’ve just said, have been expanded to include the Dalhousie Global Psychiatry department of Dalhousie University. Both the on-site psychiatrist and those helping us through Dalhousie provide both direct and distance treatment consultation and assessment. This can be done

over telehealth. So, we are enhancing our services that are available to our residents. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 67-17(5): Mental Health Services In The Beaufort-Delta

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

I’m glad the Minister brought up the Dalhousie program and gave us a little detail into how that’s working so far.

In terms of doing the assessments and if there are any residents of the NWT or clients that are going through this program that need some treatment for their psychiatric services, how many beds do we have in the Northwest Territories that would be able to house some of these individuals who might need around-the-clock services? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Great Slave

Glen Abernethy

Minister of Health and Social Services

I can’t recall the number of beds in the Northwest Territories, off the top of my head, but I will certainly get that information back to the Member. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

I know that one of our issues and our challenges that we have in the Northwest Territories is resources and infrastructure to house some of these individuals. We are going through the same thing. We also have the long-term care issues. We have an increase in our seniors population, and with that might come dementia and other areas that might require more services.

Does the government have some type of program with out-of-province jurisdictions that provide services to the GNWT? If so, how many NWT residents are accessing those southern placements? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 67-17(5): Mental Health Services In The Beaufort-Delta

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Great Slave

Glen Abernethy

Minister of Health and Social Services

In the Northwest Territories there are a number of long-term care facilities throughout the Territories in different communities and regions. The Housing Corp has done some pretty impressive work in getting some infrastructure on the ground to provide types of support. There is a dementia centre here in Yellowknife. So, we do provide a significant number of services to individuals needing it.

I’m not sure I fully understand the Member’s question. Is he asking how many seniors are utilizing long-term care facilities outside the Northwest Territories? I’m not too sure what he’s asking, but I’d be happy to sit down with the Member, get the specifics and get back to him with the information. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Moses .

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Question 67-17(5): Mental Health Services In The Beaufort-Delta

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I should have been a little bit more clear. I was looking at psychiatric services, out-of-territory services that are provided by other government or other NGOs.

What does the Minister have planned, looking at some of the stats that we have in the Beaufort-Delta? What is his plan, working with the health

authority, to address these high, direct counselling services as well as these new referrals that are putting a strain on our current counselling services that we have in the Beaufort-Delta region right now? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 67-17(5): Mental Health Services In The Beaufort-Delta

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Great Slave

Glen Abernethy

Minister of Health and Social Services

As I already indicated, the Dalhousie psychiatric partnership has really helped us create some stability within the psychiatric locum pool and has allowed for the expansion of psychiatric services throughout the use of telehealth. On top of that, we do have 65 community counseling positions, including community wellness workers, mental health and addictions counsellors, clinical supervisors, managers, as well as some funded NGO positions to provide community counselling services in the communities.

They do things like assessments and crisis intervention, referrals for treatment counselling, follow-up and after-care. So, there are a significant number of positions out there doing this type of work, and with the addition of the advanced psychiatric, we should be able to take down some of that workload and get better care, better health and a better future for our residents. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 67-17(5): Mental Health Services In The Beaufort-Delta

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . The honourable Member for Range Lake , Mr. Dolynny .

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Question 68-17(5): Worker Exposure To Arsenic At Giant Mine Remediation Site

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Daryl Dolynny

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today as a follow-up to my Member’s statement on my questions surrounding the disconnect to the recent media reports that more than 30 cleanup workers at Giant Mine site were critically exposed to toxic arsenic trioxide. We have received little to no updates on this disaster, and it is important that we hear today from the Minister responsible for the Workers ’ Safety and Compensation Commission as to what we are doing in the wake of this health and safety issue.

Can the Minister inform the House as to when his office was made aware when these critically arsenic-exposed cleanup workers at Giant Mine site were showing positive test results in their weekly medical monitoring program? Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny . The honourable Minister responsible for the Workers ’ Safety and Compensation Commission, Mr. Lafferty .

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Question 68-17(5): Worker Exposure To Arsenic At Giant Mine Remediation Site

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. WSCC was first informed about the exposure on August 10, 2013, and they sent me a briefing note on August 14, 2013. Those are the days that have been identified. Mahsi.

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Question 68-17(5): Worker Exposure To Arsenic At Giant Mine Remediation Site

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Daryl Dolynny

Range Lake

If the Minister and Cabinet were informed August 14, 2013, why were Regular

Members and the public at large not informed of such critical health and safety findings? Thank you.

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Part of the mandate of the WSCC is to first deal with the workers and the employers. In this instance, the general public were not at risk of exposure but were confined from the contaminated zone on the Giant property. The general public does not have access to the mine site or the contaminated zone. Worker/employer information is confidential and cannot be disclosed, so that’s part of the reason why it was kept confidential to the parties. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 68-17(5): Worker Exposure To Arsenic At Giant Mine Remediation Site

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Daryl Dolynny

Range Lake

Maybe the Minister can elaborate on what activities the cleanup workers were doing to put them at such a high risk of exposure. Thank you.

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Question 68-17(5): Worker Exposure To Arsenic At Giant Mine Remediation Site

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

The workers were in the midst of cleaning out the asbestos and arsenic from the roaster complex at Giant and they were wearing the protective equipment required at that point. In some cases equipment fails, and in all the cases WSCC and company are still trying to find out how the workers were exposed. During that time frame, the WSCC were giving directions to the company on how to eliminate the exposure and WSCC also immediately closed the project down until the company determined what caused the spike. Mahsi.

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Question 68-17(5): Worker Exposure To Arsenic At Giant Mine Remediation Site

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Dolynny .

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Daryl Dolynny

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to thank the Minister for that, but can the Minister inform the House as to what exactly is being done now for these exposed NWT workers to this highly toxic arsenic, and when can the House expect a full risk assessment of this arsenic exposure for public review? Thank you.

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Question 68-17(5): Worker Exposure To Arsenic At Giant Mine Remediation Site

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

WSCC is dealing with the workers that were exposed, to ensure that they have all the information that’s required to deal with the exposure.

The low-level arsenic exposure is not a substance to cause any instant illness. It can manifest over long periods of time. That’s the information that we received. WSCC is also ensuring that it is not manifesting to a latent disease of the workers. Those are some of the areas that we are currently monitoring. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . The Member for Deh Cho , Mr. Nadli .

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Question 69-17(5): Commercial Harvest Of Wild Mushrooms

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are to the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources . My constituency, of course, is

situated very close to the southern NWT with easy highway access. Basically the Deh Cho, in the heart of the region, there was tremendous forest fire activity last year that basically rendered a lot of the forests highly impacted by an unfortunate natural occurrence. Yet at the same time, it’s February at this point and summer is dawning. This matter has been raised in the House before.

My question to the Minister is: What changes to legislation need to be made in order for the commercial harvest of wild mushrooms to be viable in the NWT? Mahsi.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Nadli . The Minister of Environment and Natural Resources , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Question 69-17(5): Commercial Harvest Of Wild Mushrooms

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There’s a major piece of legislation that has to be redone. That’s the Forest Management Act. It’s a major legislative undertaking. Some preliminary work will get done in the life of this government, but it will be carried through to conclusion in the life of the 18th Assembly. Thank you.

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

This matter, as I’ve pointed out, has been brought to the House before and there are some entrepreneurs at the local community that are poised to take advantage of this opportunity, especially at the local community level where there are very few employment and business opportunities.

What is the Minister prepared to do to help out the communities to basically prepare for the commercial harvest of wild mushrooms? Mahsi.

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

ITI has put on, and will continue to put on, workshops to assist communities and interested individuals on the ins and outs of the morel mushroom harvest, both in terms of the actual harvesting and then looking to the secondary piece, which of course is marketing the product. Thank you.

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Question 69-17(5): Commercial Harvest Of Wild Mushrooms

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

There seems to be a call of action for this government to put in place some provisions to ensure that the commercial harvest activities of mushrooms are, first of all, regulated. At the same time, there’s a level of control to ensure that this very precious natural resource is protected, so it seems that the Minister needs to do something.

Is the Minister prepared to step towards an interim provision to protect mushrooms? Would the Minister consider establishing immediately an arrangement with First Nations on their traditional lands to put in place a traditional knowledge study of morels? Mahsi.

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Question 69-17(5): Commercial Harvest Of Wild Mushrooms

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

If there’s a specific request, ITI and the government, of course, would work with the Aboriginal governments on land that is identified or a part of a settlement area.

On public lands we have the provisions put in place that we are able now to do under the current legislation and we will continue to do that. We, as well, offer these workshops to folks at large.

As the Member indicated, the year after fire season, there tends to be a bumper crop of morel mushrooms, and there’s an industry that tracks these fires across Canada, and the harvesters will appear to pick as soon as the harvest season commences. So, we’re prepared to work with the Aboriginal governments and community governments. Thank you.

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Question 69-17(5): Commercial Harvest Of Wild Mushrooms

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Nadli .

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Question 69-17(5): Commercial Harvest Of Wild Mushrooms

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It’s encouraging that the Minister is going to take some action after many times that this has been brought to the House.

Will the Minister ensure that there is at least a dialogue that is established with those First Nation communities that are interested in at least doing a baseline study of the traditional study and the purpose and the value of wild mushrooms, especially those communities that are situated close to the NWT border and along the highway? Mahsi.

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Question 69-17(5): Commercial Harvest Of Wild Mushrooms

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

The government, of course, stands ready to work with the affected communities in the affected areas where there have been fires in the previous year. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 69-17(5): Commercial Harvest Of Wild Mushrooms

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . The Member for Hay River North , Mr. Bouchard .

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Question 70-17(5): NWT Fishing Industry

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Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In follow-up to my Member’s statement about the fishery in the Great Slave Lake, and my colleague from the Deh Cho reminded me that they also boil that fish and it’s delicious that way as well. I have a question to the Minister of ITI about the current activities that they are doing with the fishery.

What are those monies that the Minister and the budget addressed the other day, what are the monies going towards to increase the production of the fishery in the Northwest Territories? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 70-17(5): NWT Fishing Industry

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bouchard . The Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment , Mr. Ramsay .

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Question 70-17(5): NWT Fishing Industry

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The money that we have announced in this year’s budget, it’s about $1.7 million, will go toward upgrading the fleet on Great Slave Lake, a new marketing effort to get more product in the domestic market here in the Northwest Territories which we

predict is somewhere around 500,000 to 750,000 pounds in addition to the 930,000 pounds that were taken from the lake last year.

Also, the key piece to this is the construction of an export grade new fish plant in Hay River. We’re going to try to leverage the dollars that we do have that you see in this year’s budget with monies from the Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation, as well as CanNor. Those discussions are ongoing and we hope to see that come to fruition really soon. Thank you.

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Question 70-17(5): NWT Fishing Industry

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Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

My next question for the Minister is about that marketing that he discussed. I know he’s talking about domestic marketing. I’m also concerned about marketing this product outside of the Northwest Territories.

Along with that marketing and pricing, what is the department doing to bring up the prices for the fishers to basically create an income and get paid for their good product?

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Question 70-17(5): NWT Fishing Industry

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Part of the funding that was announced in this year’s budget would include a marketing subsidy of 44 cents per kilogram for fishermen. It is believed that the domestic market would be much more lucrative for fishermen to sell their product in the local domestic market, Hay River, Yellowknife, Fort Smith, for example. Again, we have announced some money to help fishermen market their product here in the domestic market, which will put more money in fishermen’s pockets here in the Northwest Territories. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 70-17(5): NWT Fishing Industry

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Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

I know the department went throughout the Northwest Territories on their new Economic Opportunities Strategy and the fishery was one of the things that came forward from there.

What monies are they putting into this Economic Opportunities Strategy to help the fishers in this industry?

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Question 70-17(5): NWT Fishing Industry

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

We did hear loud and clear, both in the North Slave region and in the South Slave region, the need to reinvigorate the commercial fishing industry on Great Slave Lake. That’s why, I believe, the cornerstone of the work of the EOS here initially is going to be to revitalize that fishery. We’ve got $1.7 million. We want to build a new fish plant in Hay River; we want to upgrade the fleet; we want to attract new fishermen to the industry; we want to keep the existing fishermen that we have; and we’re going to put our best effort into doing just that.

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Question 70-17(5): NWT Fishing Industry

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Bouchard .

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Question 70-17(5): NWT Fishing Industry

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Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My final question is about the Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation and our work with them to do this marketing.

How much involvement has the Minister had with the Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation? Have we looked at that opportunity? Have we looked if that is a need? Do we really need them still? I know that’s been debated in the fishery quite a bit, but what is the department doing with the Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation?

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Question 70-17(5): NWT Fishing Industry

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

I have met with the officials from the Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation last year. Our officials continue to dialogue with Freshwater. It is our hope that they will be a vital piece of the puzzle in the construction of a new export grade fish plant in Hay River. We want to work with them and we also want to work with CanNor to ensure that this happens.

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Question 70-17(5): NWT Fishing Industry

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The Member for Weledeh , Mr. Bromley .

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Question 71-17(5): Policy On Northern Art In Public Buildings

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are for the Minister for Public Works . Around this time last year, I had a great debate with the Minister of Public Works . We debated whether displaying more NWT art in public buildings was a good idea or a great idea, and I believe a great idea won the day.

Could the new Minister of Public Works update us on the current status of the northern art in government buildings policy?

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Question 71-17(5): Policy On Northern Art In Public Buildings

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . The Minister of Public Works , Mr. Beaulieu .

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Question 71-17(5): Policy On Northern Art In Public Buildings

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker. After the commitment was made to do this work, a working group consisting of four departments, ECE, ITI, Transportation and Public Works, was put together to work with the NWT Arts Council on making this display of art in GNWT buildings possible.

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Question 71-17(5): Policy On Northern Art In Public Buildings

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thanks to the Minister. We put a lot of effort into this. Did we actually come up with a policy? When developing policies, obviously it’s a good idea to consult with the public, so as well as consulting internally, can the Minister report back on the latest meetings with NWT artists and what they thought of his latest proposals?

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Question 71-17(5): Policy On Northern Art In Public Buildings

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

The first thing that had occurred was the two content management TV display systems were created and put out. Essentially, a TV screen, one at the Yellowknife Airport and one in the Public Works office in Inuvik, and they display art. They have had discussion with the NWT Arts Council. This group of departments had discussions with the Arts Council and are working on what will be displayed, for what type of period they’ll be displayed, how many different things would be displayed and so on.

In as far as the policy goes, ECE will be developing a policy, working with Public Works and ITI, and this policy will guide how GNWT buildings are used to display NWT art, so there is some movement there.

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Question 71-17(5): Policy On Northern Art In Public Buildings

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thanks again to the Minister. Last year we also had some discussion about possibly doing displays on a rotational basis, and I’m wondering if that discussion has been had yet or whether that’s also being left to those other two departments. Anything the Minister could report?

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Question 71-17(5): Policy On Northern Art In Public Buildings

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

The Department of Public Works will advise the group of areas where spaces would be available for art display. Like I indicated, there will be a policy developed, and I think that’s going to guide us on whether or not we are displaying art, in which buildings and what pieces of art that we will be displaying. As I indicated, at this point it appears as though the group, the NWT Arts Council, that we’re working with were happy with the display appearing on the television and the TV display system, but because the policy is not finalized, it would be difficult to indicate at this point what art we can use on a rotational basis in the Public Works buildings.

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Question 71-17(5): Policy On Northern Art In Public Buildings

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Bromley .

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Question 71-17(5): Policy On Northern Art In Public Buildings

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thanks again to the Minister. I note that the GNWT office building downtown here is very close to completion. I’m wondering: how are things proceeding in terms of a plan for displaying northern art in that building and, if I can squeeze it in, if the Minister has any comments on how we’re going to be sure and communicate this new policy, whenever it’s developed, to all our artists.

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Question 71-17(5): Policy On Northern Art In Public Buildings

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

As far as the new building goes, I don’t know what will be available, but one of the things that we have determined as the group of departments working together that it was very important for us to do our communications to the NWT Arts Council. They seem to have their membership communicating with the memberships right across the territory throughout the arts community, so any communications that this government has in order to determine what would be displayed and which buildings will be communicated to the NWT Arts Council.

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Question 71-17(5): Policy On Northern Art In Public Buildings

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . The Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Question 72-17(5): GNWT Position Vacancies

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is certainly a great pleasure to have the opportunity to follow up on my Member’s statement. I want to find out, first and foremost, what is the government doing to promote these 800 vacancies, as

highlighted by the government, and certainly reaffirm