Oral Questions, Wildlife — 12 March 1992 (12th Assembly, 2nd Session, pp. 383–409)

1992-03-12, 12th Assembly 2nd Session, pp. 383–409

Northwest Territories — Debates (Hansard)

Oral Questions, Wildlife — 12 March 1992 (12th Assembly, 2nd Session, pp. 383–409)

1992-03-12, 12th Assembly 2nd Session, pp. 383–409

Northwest Territories — Debates (Hansard)

Debates of March 12th, 1992

This is page numbers 383 - 409 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was chairman .

Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

Ministers' Statement 37-12(2): Wildlife Conservation Act

Amendments To Legislative Assembly And Executive Council Act

Tribute To Sister Marie-olive Sarrasin

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Question O311-12(2): Review Of Gwich'in Final Agreement In New Wildlife Conservation Act

Question O312-12(2): Liability Insurance For Operators Of Young Offenders Facilities

Question O313-12(2): Conservation Plan For Peary Caribou

Question O314-12(2): Acquisition Of Surplus Equipment From Dewline Sites

Question O315-12(2): Time Frame For Response To Question W12-12(2)

Question O316-12(2): Proposal For Management Of Open Custody Group Home, Inuvik

Question O317-12(2): General Liability Insurance For Group Homes

Question O318-12(2): Consideration Of Sparrow Case In New Wildlife Conservation Act

Question O319-12(2): GNWT Promotion Of Dene Arts And Crafts

Question O320-12(2): Liability Insurance Coverage Available At Storefront

Question O321-12(2): Regions And Companies Involved In Expo '92

Question O322-12(2): Minister Meet With Daishowa Officials In Japan

Question O323-12(2): Liability Insurance For Young Offender's Group Home, Lnuvik

Question O324-12(2): Court Case As Means Of Addressing Concerns Re Daishowa Dam

Question O325-12(2): Court Case Against Daishowa Dam

Question O326-12(2): Inclusion Of Tungavik Agreement In Now Wildlife Conservation Act

Question O327-12(2): Employment At Toronto Airport Retail Outlet

Question O328-12(2): Visiting Rights For Detained Offenders

Question O329-12(2): Installing Satellite Receivers In Schools

Question O330-12(2): Progressive Discipline Policy In Schools

Question O331-12(2): Policy Re Japan's Interest In Nwt

Item 10: Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

Report Of The Standing Committee On Legislation On Bill 15

Item 12: Tabling Of Documents

Notice Of Motion 8-12(2): Extended Adjournment Of The House

Notice Of Motion 9-12(2): Annual Tabling Of Members' Expenditures

Notice Of Motion For First Reading Of Bill 27: Wildlife Conservation Act

Item 15: Motions

Extended Adjournment Of The House

First Reading Of Bill 25: Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 1991-92

Second Reading Of Bill 24: Financial Administration Act, No. 2

Bill 15: Official Languages Act

Item 19: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Item 20: Third Reading Of Bills

Revert To Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Assent To Bills

Item 21: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Hon. Titus Allooloo , Mr. Antoine , Mr. Arngna'naaq , Mr. Arvaluk , Hon. Michael Ballantyne , Hon. Nellie Cournoyea , Mr. Dent , Mr. Gargan , Mr. Koe , Mr. Lewis , Mrs. Marie-Jewell , Ms. Mike , Hon. Don Morin , Mr. Nerysoo , Hon. John Ningark , Hon. Dennis Patterson , Hon. John Pollard , Mr. Pudlat , Mr. Pudluk , Mr. Todd , Hon. Tony Whitford ,

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

Page 383

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Good afternoon. Orders of the day for Thursday, March 12, 1992. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Ministers' statements. Mr. Ningark .

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Ministers' Statement 37-12(2): Wildlife Conservation Act

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 383

John Ningark

Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I intend to introduce to the House the new Wildlife Conservation Act. This act will replace the current Wildlife Act, which is now more than 13 years old.

This new act will do four things: 1) It provides a framework that can be used to incorporate future changes more quickly and easily; 2) It recognizes and puts into law the provisions of the Inuvialuit Final Agreement, which was signed in 1984, in a separate part of the act; 3) It removes or alters provisions from the Wildlife Act which were in contravention of Canada's Charter of Rights and Freedoms; 4) It makes minor changes which, although they do not affect the meaning or intent of the legislation, make the wording consistent with other territorial statutes, and will aid translation. Mr.

Speaker, I ask the House to support this new act. Thank you.

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Ministers' Statement 37-12(2): Wildlife Conservation Act

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 383

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Members' statements. Mr. Dent .

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Amendments To Legislative Assembly And Executive Council Act

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 383

Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Last fall, Mr. Speaker, voters from across the Northwest Territories made clear their desire for a more accountable government and greater access to information.

Another major issue in last fall's campaign was the compensation paid to MLAs and Ministers of this government. Many people believe that since these elected officials are paid with public funds, their salaries, expenses and constituency expenses should be tabled in the Legislative Assembly. Many people also believe that the salaries and expenses of high level civil servants should also be tabled.

Although the figures provided in the Legislative Assembly and Executive Council Act can be used to calculate the maximum amounts payable to MLAs and Ministers, the public does not consider this to be enough, and I certainly agree. I think it is important to put actual dollars beside names in the case of elected officials; and beside positions in the case of senior civil servants.

I have asked our Legislative Assembly research team to prepare a document which outlines how other jurisdictions in Canada deal with this type of information. This document, which I will table later today, clearly shows that many legislatures have gone to great lengths to make salaries and expenses public. Manitoba, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and Saskatchewan provide their residents with the most detailed information. I firmly believe that we should aim to match, or better the standards set by these provinces.

Mr. Speaker, many candidates in last fall's campaign found that politicians are held in rather low esteem. I am convinced that taking steps to make more information public is one way to regain the public's confidence.

Since most Members of this House have embraced the concept of more open and accountable government, and since tabling an annual report of Members' expenditures would be an important step toward providing the access to information that many of our constituents are demanding, I will, at the appropriate time today, give notice of motion asking that the Speaker prepare amendments to the Legislative Assembly and Executive Council Act, to provide for such reports to be tabled. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Amendments To Legislative Assembly And Executive Council Act

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 383

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Members' statements. Members' statements. Mr. Whitford .

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Tribute To Sister Marie-olive Sarrasin

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 383

Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I rise, as a Member of this House, to pay tribute to Sister Marie-Olive Sarrasin, who passed away in the Provincial House in St. Boniface, Manitoba on February 21, 1992, at the age of 87 years.

Sister Sarrasin was a member of the Order of Sisters of Charity of Montreal, better known as the Grey Nuns, for 68 years. Of those years she had spent over 40 of them in the North.

Sister Sarrasin, like most Grey Nuns, served a dual role as a school teacher and nurse. As a school teacher she taught many young people from the South Slave area. She was a great and gifted lady, who loved her students and it showed in class attendance. Mr. Speaker, I was one of her students in 1957-58.

Grey Nuns served the people of the North for over 100 years as teachers, social workers, and public health nurses. Founded in 1770, the Sisters of Charity of Montreal were the first all Canadian religious order. They had a great love for the people of the North and contributed greatly to our social, physical and spiritual well-being. But sadly, Mr. Speaker, there have fewer and fewer replacements in recent years, In 1962 there were 111 Grey Nuns in the Northwest Territories. Today there are only 11.

Sister Sarrasin was a great lady in her own way and I am sure, Mr. Speaker, she will be fondly remembered by her students. Thank you.

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Tribute To Sister Marie-olive Sarrasin

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 383

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Ningark .

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Further Return To Question O275-12(2): Tabling Of Canada Forest Strategy

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Page 384

John Ningark

Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Antoine on March 6, 1992. At the appropriate time today, I will be tabling the Canada Forest Accord that the federal, provincial and territorial Ministers of Forestry signed in Ottawa last week. The accord contains the overall goal and objectives of the strategy. I have also provided Mr. Antoine with a copy of the Canadian Forest Strategy for his information. Thank you.

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Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

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Question O311-12(2): Review Of Gwich'in Final Agreement In New Wildlife Conservation Act

Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 384

Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If I could ask the Hon. John Ningark a question with regard to his statement today. Has the Minister or the department reviewed the Gwich'in final agreement to consider its implementation in the new Wildlife Conservation Act?

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Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 384

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Minister of Renewable Resources , Mr. Ningark .

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Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 384

John Ningark

Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This proposed act will allow for the other land claim areas to do what we are going to be able to do with the Inuvialuit claim. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Nerysoo .

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Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 384

Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you. Mr. Speaker, could I ask the Minister why in his reconsideration for an amendment to the Wildlife Conservation Act or the creation of the new Wildlife Conservation Act, he did not consider any changes that would reflect the Gwich'in final agreement, despite the fact that it has already been approved and voted on by the Gwich'in?

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Item 5: Oral Questions

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Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Ningark .

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Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 384

John Ningark

Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is my understanding that the Gwich'in agreement has not been signed yet. As soon as it is signed, you will be part of this act. Thank you.

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Michael Ballantyne

Supplementary, Mr. Nerysoo .

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Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 384

Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, the Gwich'in final agreement has been signed. I guess the honourable Member probably should say it is not in legislation yet. I want to ask the honourable Member why, in proposing a new Wildlife Conservation Act for consideration by this House, he did not take into consideration the possibility of that agreement being in legislation by the end of April. Maybe it is worth consideration by this House.

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Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Ningark .

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Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 384

John Ningark

Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I guess I was wrong when I said it was not signed yet. It is my understanding that it is not finalized yet. According to the Wildlife Conservation Act which is proposed for this House, number one says that it will provide a framework that can be used to incorporate changes more quickly and easily. I think that is what the honourable Member is asking for.

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Page 384

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Last supplementary, Mr. Nerysoo .

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Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 384

Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I note the absence of any changes that might reflect the Sparrow case. I want to ask the Minister if the department has considered any changes as a result of the Sparrow case.

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Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Ningark .

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John Ningark

Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is my understanding, yes.

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Question O312-12(2): Liability Insurance For Operators Of Young Offenders Facilities

Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 384

Fred Koe

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In the March 5 issue of the Inuvik Drum there are four requests for proposals from the Department of Social Services. One is a for contract home for young offenders; another one is to provide open custody facilities for bush camps. Both close Friday, March 13. In the proposals there are clauses where the contractor shall obtain and maintain comprehensive general liability insurance coverage in the amount of not less than two million dollars.

My question to the Minister of Social Services is how does he expect contractors to get this type of insurance when very few insurance firms in the North can provide that type of coverage for people looking after young offenders.

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Item 5: Oral Questions

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Michael Ballantyne

Minister of Social Services , Mr. Whitford .

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Member is quite correct that it is a concern with some operators that they are not able to purchase that type of insurance and that volume, and that the insurance companies in the Inuvik Region perhaps are a little reluctant to provide that level of coverage. However, it is not an impediment to anyone submitting a proposal, Mr. Speaker, because I think the problem was looked at by the department some time ago, and an alternative has been suggested to them. They have the information necessary that will help any potential bidders to obtain the necessary insurance through another firm.

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If that is the case then why was that information not provided in the ads? If you read the ads it is fairly clear what is required and nowhere does it say that this is negotiable or other alternatives can be discussed or negotiated.

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am not sure how much detail they can put in an ad of that size. However, people who have already been involved with this type of an operation have been duly informed, and I am sure that if anyone has a concern all they have to do is contact our Department of Social Services in the Inuvik Region and they will be given the information they might need.

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am not sure who they would talk to there because you do not have a superintendent and the acting superintendent is on leave. I was advised that the clerks were phoned to put these ads in the paper and that is how these ads were put in. The deadline is tomorrow and you have to phone Yellowknife office to get copies of the proposals, and there it says alternative methods may be looked at. So I am not sure who they would contact in Inuvik today.

My question is, if this is the case that operators can negotiate and get alternate coverage, why were they not told or why was this not publicized?

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is not an item that can be negotiated. Mr. Speaker, the requirement for insurance is mandatory. It is mandated by the Department of Finance and it is for the protection of the people who are using such facilities. What I was suggesting is that information on how to obtain insurance through an insurance firm, elsewhere than Inuvik, was what we would be able to provide. An insurance scheme other than what is being provided in the local area is what is being provided. It is not something that we are going to negotiate with.

It is required for the protection of the operators and the clientele. We will provide information, and it should not be a detriment to anybody wanting to submit a proposal; the fact that Inuvik insurance companies are not able to provide that insurance.

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

I think the Minister missed my question. In prior contracts the need for insurance was waived by the department, and the department, or government, covered this insurance in their general insurance coverage. To my knowledge no firms in the Northwest Territories, and I will have to confirm that, can provide this coverage, so they have to go south. It is very difficult to find a firm that will provide coverage for a bush camp operation to look after young offenders. The cost is significant.

My question is, with this type of call for proposals and insurance costs that you are asking for insurance coverage, the cost of care goes up significantly. Is the department willing to bear that cost?

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, I thought I had covered the concerns that the Member had with contractors trying to obtain insurance that was not available in the area, for projects that require certain liability insurance. There seems to be other areas of concern that I am not able to address. I thought I had conveyed to him that any contractor that was having a problem was able to contact our department, and that we would give this information. I think part of his question was, why was this not in the advertisement. I had not realized it was a problem, but if it is any assurance I will advise the department that perhaps in future tenders of this nature, this information is to be included.

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Ludy Pudluk

High Arctic

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is directed to Renewable Resources. We all know the Peary caribou have to be conserved. We have to work together to conserve the Peary caribou. Has your department come up with a plan? As for the Baffin caribou, there are only 14,000, and this is for the three communities of Broughton Island, Resolute Bay and Grise Fiord. The caribou are far away and the people have to hunt the caribou by plane. These 14,000 caribou are not enough.

Last summer the people of Resolute asked me if they can go and hunt the caribou in another area, and they had to pay $9000 to go, and 14,000 caribou is not enough, Can your department look into this and look into the funding; if they can erase the funding. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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John Ningark

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(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is his first question on this matter; this is the first time I am aware of this. I would like to tell the Member that we will look into this and we will answer the Member.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Economic Development and Tourism . We just earlier on today got a fairly extensive briefing on the expansion and closure of the DEWline site and the North Warning System. It is my understanding the Department of Economic Development is going to be the lead department in the acquisition of the surplus assets with the closures. My question to the Minister would be, can he provide us with a complete list of the equipment that is going to be placed in the hands of the GNWT?

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John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, I am unable to do that at this time, but I can tell the Members that there was a meeting on February 17. It was an interdepartmental meeting between Public Works, Economic Development and Tourism, Health, Government Services, Transportation, MACA, Renewable Resources, and the Science Institute. As we are the lead department, it was chaired by Economic Development and Tourism. Mr. Peter Allen, assistant deputy minister, is the co-ordinator.

We are not actually buying those assets, Mr. Speaker; we are co-ordinating other departments that have an interest in those assets. There is a report being prepared that will inventory all of those assets, and as soon as I have those assets, their locations, and who is interested in them, I will provide them to the House. If the House is not sifting, I will provide them to the Members. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In this report that is being developed, is there going to be a method that is going to identify how these assets are going to be distributed, or is it just going to be left to the individual departments to request? Given the dire need in some municipalities for heavy equipment, for example, is there a method, a process, on how we are going to select and distribute these significant assets?

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John Pollard

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Mr. Speaker, there are two phases. Phase one is a disposal of moveable assets and equipment, and departments will be asked to identify items that they are interested in. There will be a committee chaired by Government Services, a selection committee, and they will make selections. Municipal and Community Affairs will look after municipal interests. Economic Development and Tourism will identify assets which may be transferred to business interests and community-based organizations. The second phase will be the disposal of the fixed assets, and Public Works will review the capital plan to determine which buildings can be economically relocated.

This may be a little long, Mr. Speaker, but it will tell everybody where it is at right now: Transportation has requested that all abandoned airstrips be left intact so that we have emergency airstrips in the Northwest Territories; Social Services will represent institutional interests, and possibly social service recipients.

Once dispersal of assets has been decided upon, a letter will be sent to Canadian Assets Disposal identifying items to be transferred; Economic Development and Tourism will arrange the distribution of assets with DND, Department of National Defence, and departments; the Science Institute is interested in having one or two buildings left standing at camp five, for use by the scientific community.

There may be some interest in the private sector with respect to using abandoned sites; Renewable Resources and Health will be involved in the development of site-specific clean-up plans; Health, Social Services and Education will examine the possibility of selecting surplus inventory of various household items.

When final abandonment and clean-up begins, Economic Development and Tourism will co-ordinate efforts of the Department of National Defence to ensure that Northerners obtain contracts, training, and employment.

Mr. Speaker, with regard to the specific question about how the pie will be divided up, I think cabinet is waiting for some direction from the department, through the Department of Government Services, and making suggestions to us. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

We are not suggesting for one minute that there is no cost attached to this. There must be a cost attached to it somewhere, and I would like to know from the Minister, from where are the funds going to come with respect to the costs attached to either moving equipment out or purchasing equipment'? From where are the funds going to come?

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John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, that will be in the report that will be delivered to me, hopefully, in the next 30 days. I have heard varying prices from one dollar up to $12,500 for some equipment. I cannot confirm those numbers today, but it will be part of the report. Obviously, the financial impact that it has upon us will be considered. Also the fact, is the Canadian military going to move those assets to where they are required in the Northwest Territories? The initial reading is, if there is a Hercules strip or a strip capable of taking a Hercules where we want the equipment delivered, they may be able to do that for us, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Government Leader the following question: On February 27 1 asked Question W12-12(2), regarding the cost of chairpersons for boards, agencies and committees. I would like to ask the Government Leader what time she intends to respond to that particular question. Thank you.

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I do not know why it has not been tabled already. However, I will try to do that by Monday. Thank you.

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Question O316-12(2): Proposal For Management Of Open Custody Group Home, Inuvik

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a question for the Minister of Social Services . A request for proposals has been called in Inuvik to manage an open custody group home for young offenders. Previously, the Minister responded to one of my questions that there were no negotiations on these contracts. Can the Minister confirm that in this case a proposal for the management of an open custody group home will be based on the submission from a contractor? Thank you,

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Yes, Mr. Speaker.

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

If that is the case, then I would like to quote from the proposal from the department, which says: "Following a final evaluation, the selected contractor will be required to negotiate a contractual agreement with the Government of the Northwest Territories." I do not understand why the Minister is saying there are no negotiations when clearly, in the call for proposals from the department, it says that there is a negotiations process that takes place.

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The question was not 100 per cent clear. Mr. Whitford , would you like to respond?

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe what I was referring to was the question about the two million dollar liability coverage. I was referring to the fact that there were no negotiations on that, there was a requirement. That is all I meant about no negotiations.

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Again, I would like to refer the Minister to their own documents where it says department contractors are required to carry liability insurance in the amount of two million dollars. Provisions for this cost may be included in the budget submitted. Does that mean, then, that there is some form of deal-making or negotiations that can take place once a submission is submitted?

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, the Member has a document that I do not have at my disposal here, so I will take the question as notice.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, I have a question for the Minister of Social Services following up on the process in respect to open custody group homes in Inuvik, the proposal request. Since the Minister indicated and recognizes that his department is asking for a two million dollar coverage on general liability, and since the individuals that want to bid on this particular proposal state that the liability may be difficult to access, I would like to ask the Minister if consideration could be given to waive the general liability request for this proposal.

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not believe we can, but I believe that liability insurance is available to potential contractors through an agency that has agreed to assist in such matters.

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Thebacha

Can the Minister advise this House as to what agency would be able to assist with this particular matter, and does that agency allow for applicable individuals to be able to be assisted?

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Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe the agency is Storefront located here in Yellowknife, and it is through an agreement that covers such organizations or individuals that are not able to obtain that type of insurance through regular means, and it is available for a fee, of course, but the fees are relatively minimal because of the nature of the service being provided.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Can the Minister confirm to this House whether Storefront does allow for the provision of insurance for individuals, and not only non-profit organizations? Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe It does. On this specific subject of bush camp operators, such as we are discussing for open custody, I believe it does in this case. I am not sure whether the bush camp operators are doing this for a profit, or for break-even. It is certainly not volunteer, but they are being covered for this particular type of operation.

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to again ask the Hon. John Ningark , Minister of Renewable Resources , even though he said it was his understanding that the Supreme Court decision on the Sparrow case has been considered in the amendments, I would ask the Minister where in his presentation today, or his Minister's statement, is that particular matter being considered?

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Question O319-12(2): GNWT Promotion Of Dene Arts And Crafts

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister of Economic Development a question. Yesterday when Members on this side of the House were asking questions about the art exhibition in Japan, the honourable Member indicated that the government was not displaying the art exhibition themselves, but rather, was participating as representatives of government. Does this government represent all people in the NWT?

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, Mr. Speaker.

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, then I think the questions yesterday were relevant. What is this government doing with regard to promoting Dene art in Canada or on the international scene?

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John Pollard

Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, under the Economic Development Agreement we provided $9804 of EDA assistance to Gameti Development Corporation for hide tanning-workshops; we did contributions of $88,000 to provide for the development of promotional materials to enhance sales of NWT arts and crafts; specific brochures relating to the promotion of Dene craft work, including birchbark baskets, tufting, beadwork, quill work, tanned hides; also an overview brochure will include the socio-cultural aspects of Dene arts.

Under commercial enterprises, Fort Liard gets an annual budget to Acho Dene native crafts of $150,000. Under small tools and equipment, Dene artisans receive $42,000 of the fiscal 1991-92 budget for the department's small tools and equipment programs. There was a new person year, an arts and crafts officer allocated to Fort Rae with an annual budget of $53,000. This officer commenced work with the department on February 18, 1991.

Under the department's O and M budget, a total of six full-colour one-page advertisements were placed in various magazines to promote Dene craft work. Forty-five per cent, that is $374,000, of purchases for the Expo '92 retail outlet are Dene arts and crafts. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could the Minister indicate to me if there were any major expenditures with international exhibitions in 1991-92?

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Hay River

Mr. Speaker, as I said, there was assistance to Treeline Trappings to go to the Colorado Indian Art Round-up Trade Show, which is an international trade show. Thank you.

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, could I ask the honourable Minister to indicate to this House how much money was spent on international exhibitions and Inuit art for 1991-92?

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I will take the question as notice, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Question O320-12(2): Liability Insurance Coverage Available At Storefront

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a question for the Minister of Social Services regarding a request for proposals in the Inuvik Region for young offenders and child welfare homes. Some potential contractors did not, have not, or will not bother to submit proposals for operations of these homes because of a requirement to provide comprehensive general liability insurance.

In an earlier response to a question the Minister indicated that there is an agency called Storefront somewhere in the Territories, where individuals can apply to receive this liability insurance coverage. Will the Minister confirm that this is the case?

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, my information has it that there is an agency. However, I will endeavour to secure that information. I will take the question as notice

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Question O321-12(2): Regions And Companies Involved In Expo '92

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could I ask the Minister of Economic Development if he could provide this

House with a detailed

summary of all of the expenditures this government has made with regard to Expo '92 and the regions and the companies that are involved in the purchases?

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John Pollard

Hay River

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Question O322-12(2): Minister Meet With Daishowa Officials In Japan

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a question for the Government Leader . My question is with respect to the Hon. Titus Allooloo 's visit to Japan for the exhibition of Inuit art. Recognizing there has been tremendous concern with respect to Daishowa's building of their pulp mill in Alberta, which would affect northern waters, I would like to ask the Government Leader if she would consider requesting the Minister, since he is going to be in Japan, to make an attempt to meet with Daishowa to express the concern of territorial residents on the building of their pulp mill in Peace River.

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I am not quite aware of Mr. Allooloo 's schedule, but I will take that as notice.

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Question O323-12(2): Liability Insurance For Young Offender's Group Home, Lnuvik

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a question for the Minister of Social Services , regarding insurance coverage for potential contractors to operate homes for child welfare recipients for children in care. These tenders, according to the paper, close Friday, March 13 at 4:00 p.m., which is about 24 hours from now. I mentioned earlier that people are not going to be submitting proposals because of these strict conditions that are in the act. I wonder if the Minister would still consider extending this time period so that people can contact this agency to get insurance, so that they have the ability to look at this a little further? Would you consider extending the timetable here?

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In light of the concerns expressed by my honourable friend, I will consider that.

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

How long will this consideration be? Will they have a week or two days? How long will they have, so that I can get back to the concerns of the people in Inuvik?

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will get back to the Member by tomorrow noon.

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

That still does not give me or these people a level of comfort. We still have to contact them, and that gives them at least four hours from noon tomorrow to prepare a submission. I think they need a little more time than that. Thank you.

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I am not sure that was a question, Mr. Koe . Mr. Whitford .

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In light of the concern that my honourable friend has expressed, I will endeavour to get back to him by the end of the afternoon on that topic. I have to consult to see whether or not I can do this. I will get back to him before the end of the session this afternoon.

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Question O324-12(2): Court Case As Means Of Addressing Concerns Re Daishowa Dam

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a question for the Minister of Economic Development . Yesterday he indicated to my colleague, Mr. Antoine , a process in which Members of this House could raise concerns with regard to the Daishowa Dam project, which was a process of writing letters. This government has embarked upon a court case, and I want to know if that is a better way of dealing with this particular matter, rather than writing letters to Pauline Browes.

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John Pollard

Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think, Mr. Speaker, I was referring to that matter in the context of, whether Mr. Allooloo could do something while he was there, and how Members could get their point across to the Government of Japan. Obviously, this venture is on Canadian soil, and seeking satisfaction through Canadian courts is much more effective. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question O325-12(2): Court Case Against Daishowa Dam

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Supplementary, but to a different Minister, Mr. Speaker. I have a question for the Minister of Justice . Are we proceeding with the court case against Daishowa with regard to their construction of the dam?

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Michael Ballantyne

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, as of this date the government has not made a decision about how this case will be dealt with. Thank you.

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In light of the criticisms and concerns that have been raised by the people of the North, with regard to that particular project, does the Minister not think it is important to proceed, as soon as possible, within the judicial system?

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, I do agree that we have a good legal hammer to use in the Daishowa matter, following the Oldman Dam case, which I think has strengthened our position in the Daishowa matter. The question I think the government has to consider, though, Mr. Speaker, is whether there is some percentage in trying to negotiate a settlement, as it were, with the federal government which would result in their agreeing to an environmental review, rather than continuing with an extensive and very protracted course of litigation. So there is no question of abandoning the point, Mr. Speaker.

It is a question of how we exercise the legal muscle that we have on this matter, whether we do it by negotiation or whether we do it by the more protracted litigation route. Thank you.

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, could I ask the Minister of Justice if he has even raised the matter with his cabinet colleagues?

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, yes, I have. Thank you.

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Could the Minister then indicate what options have been considered and whether or not you are going to consider proceeding with the court case?

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we are involved in the litigation, which is at the moment adjourned without a date pending the Oldman Dam

decision. So, Mr. Speaker, we still are part of that litigation, and, unless, we withdraw, we will participate when the case is revived. Mr. Speaker, discussions in cabinet have indicated that there would be some merit in trying to work with the federal government to secure their agreement to discharge what we believe is their legal responsibility and obligation under the federal responsibilities for inland waters, for aboriginal people, for fisheries, to conduct the proper environmental review that we believe has never been done in the Daishowa case.

So cabinet has agreed that we should press the federal government to do what we believe they should have done, and now must do, as a result of Oldman Dam, and that is the strategy we are taking at the moment without giving up our right to pursue the matter later through litigation when the case again comes before the courts. Thank you.

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Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Nerysoo , I believe you have had your three supplementary questions. Mr. Arvaluk .

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Question O326-12(2): Inclusion Of Tungavik Agreement In Now Wildlife Conservation Act

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James Arvaluk

Aivilik

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to put this question to the Minister of Renewable Resources . In reference to what you had stated earlier, the Inuvialuit Final Agreement was signed in 1984, so there is a possibility of putting them into the new conservation act. Will the Tungavik agreement be included in the new wildlife act with reference to the game management board? Thank you.

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Michael Ballantyne

Minister of Renewable Resources , Mr. Ningark .

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John Ningark

Natilikmiot

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is in reference to the Inuvialuit Final Agreement. When the Wildlife Conservation Act is to be commenced, all the other agreements will be easier to include in the amendments. As I stated earlier in regard to the Gwich'in agreement, it would be easier for them to be included in the act, as well as the TFN agreement. Thank you.

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Michael Ballantyne

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Question O327-12(2): Employment At Toronto Airport Retail Outlet

Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 390

Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a question for the Minister responsible for the NWT Development Corporation regarding the arts and crafts retail outlet at the Toronto airport. Mr. Speaker, I assume that there will be some direct employment created in Toronto for the day-to-day operation of this outlet. Could the Minister tell us, please, how many persons will be directly employed by the retail outlet'?

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Michael Ballantyne

Minister of Economic Development and Tourism , Mr. Pollard .

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John Pollard

Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we have hired a manager. She is presently working on schedules, and I expect to hear from her shortly on the number of hours we have to stay open and the number of people she intends to use. I would imagine, though, Mr. Speaker, that we would start out with a fairly small staff in the beginning until sales build up. Thank you.

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Michael Ballantyne

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Mr. Speaker, could the Minister please tell the House if the manager was recruited in the Northwest Territories?

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John Pollard

Hay River

No, Mr. Speaker. The manager was recruited from Toronto. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Supplementary to the same Minister. Given that this government has often told us the importance of training northern workers, this would seem like an ideal opportunity to train Northerners, not just in the retail business but in the marketing of arts and crafts. I understand that a similar arts and crafts outlet at Expo in Seville will employ Northerners. Will the Minister instruct the corporation to hire only Northerners for the remaining positions at the Toronto retail outlet?

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John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, using the kiosk in Toronto to train Northerners has been considered for two reasons: They would have better knowledge of the product they are selling, and it would create some employment here and some experience for people from the Northwest Territories. I anticipate that will happen within the first six months of the store's opening. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Michael Ballantyne

Oral questions. Mr. Arngna'naaq .

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Question O328-12(2): Visiting Rights For Detained Offenders

Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 391

Silas Arngna'naaq

Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a question to the Minister of Justice . A concern was raised in Baker Lake just recently, and as a result the mayor of Baker Lake wrote a letter asking the Minister about young offenders or people who have been detained in the local jail for weekend purposes. In a response to the mayor, the minister writes that it is the policy of the force that a member of the force must be present when family members or friends visit an inmate in cells or at the detachment. I would like to know whether, when people are being held in the detachment and for non-violent reasons, they would be able to go in and visit their family members and their friends. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Michael Ballantyne

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CollectionNorthwest Territories — Debates (Hansard)
Citation1992-03-12, 12th Assembly 2nd Session, pp. 383–409
Typehansard
Volume / chapter12
Languageen
Formathtml
SourceTERRITORIAL
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