Debates of Oct. 19th, 2016

This is page numbers 1049 - 1090 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was community .

Topics

Oral Questions

Members Present

Prayer

Minister’s Statement 85-18(2): Importance Of Small Business

Minister’s Statement 86-18(2): New Ministerial Directive- Enrolment Of Students In French First Language Programs

Enrolment In French First Language Education Programs

Support For Entrepeneurs

Employment Support Programs In Small Communities

Kam Lake Entrepeneurs And Small Business Operators

Fort Simpson Papal Site Teepee Replacement

Value Of Start-Up Small Business Programs

Fire Prevention Month

Recognition Of Lanita Thrasher, Inuvialuit Pilot

Replacement Of The Louis Cardinal Ferry

Tsa Tue International Biosphere Reserve

Northland Utilities

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Ministerial Directive On Enrolment Of Students In French First Language Programs

Funding For Ecole Allain St-Cyr Expansion Project

Enhancing Small Communities Employment Support Programs

Northern Participation In Highway Construction Contracts

Support For Day Homes And Day Cares In The Sahtu Region

Addressing Core Housing Needs

Updating The Fire Protection Act

Question 360-18(2) Replacement Of The Louis Cardinal Ferry

Engagement With Northland Utilities Ltd.

Nahendeh Ministerial Tour

Planning For Replacement Of The Louis Cardinal Ferry

Federal Funding For Health Services And Programs

Tabled Document 162-18(2): NWT Cumulative Impact Monitoring Program 2015-2016 Annual Report

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Report of Committee of the Whole

Orders of the Day

Members Present

Hon. Glen Abernethy , Mr. Beaulieu , Mr. Blake , Hon. Caroline Cochrane , Ms. Green , Hon. Jackson Lafferty , Hon. Robert McLeod , Hon. Bob McLeod , Mr. McNeely , Hon. Alfred Moses , Mr. Nadli , Mr. Nakimayak , Mr. O’Reilly, Hon. Louis Sebert , Hon. Wally Schumann , Mr. Simpson , Mr. Testart , Mr. Thompson , Mr. Vanthuyne

The House met at 1:30 p.m.

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Prayer

Prayer

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Good afternoon, Members. Ministers' statements. Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment .

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Minister’s Statement 85-18(2): Importance Of Small Business

Ministers’ Statements

Wally Schumann

Hay River South

Mr. Speaker, this is Small Business Week in Canada. Over 90 per cent of the NWT’s business is being defined as small businesses. This important sector provides employment opportunities for our people, the economic diversity to balance the ups and down of the resource economy and makes our communities great places to live.

The Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment helps create the economic environment NWT entrepreneurs and small business owners need to invest, take risks and prosper.

We do so with targeted policies, programs and funding initiatives, and in partnership with organizations such as the Business Development and Investment Corporation and Community Futures Organizations.

As individual entrepreneurs and businesses succeed locally, they contribute to regional economic growth and the sustainability of the NWT’s economy overall. Mr. Speaker, our government invests daily into small businesses in the NWT. During this session, I will be tabling a number of documents that will highlight the different ways we support economic growth and diversification through local and regional businesses and programs.

Among these are the grants and contributions delivered every year through a variety of programs to individuals, entrepreneurs, businesses, governments and groups with an economic interest across the NWT. This investment in our economy totalled $18.7 million last year. It includes initiatives like the Support for Entrepreneurs and Economic Development, or SEED

Program that assists businesses looking to expand their offerings, build their knowledge base, and fill niches within the NWT economy.

With challenges from sparse population to high shipping costs, our small businesses are often reliant on our support to respond to the market with a new product, build new skills at a tradeshow, or purchase needed equipment. This is the kind of support that is provided by the SEED Program. I will also be tabling an Annual Report and a Corporate Plan of the NWT Business Development and Investment Corporation. Last year, the BDIC distributed $7 million in financing to 58 northern business enterprises, and also 80 per cent of which were outside of Yellowknife.

BDIC’s subsidies saw 16 per cent growth in employment and a 21 per cent increase in sales in 2015 and 2016. They directly employed more than 16 full-time equivalent positions and generated $843,000 in sales of made-in-the-NWT products. Through them NWT products are available for sale in retail outlets across Canada and parts of the United States. The Community Futures Program also plays an important role in advancing grassroots support for up-and-coming businesses in our territory. I will also be tabling an annual report detailing the performance of the independent Community Future Development Corporations that deliver this program in each of our 33 communities.

The GNWT supports NWT business through its Manufactured Products and Business Incentive Policies, which are designed to support the creation and the growth of competitive local businesses by guiding government purchasing to NWT operators, which provide investment into small business and the manufacturing sectors. During this session, I will be tabling the annual report of government contracts over $5,000. It will highlight a further investment of almost $216 million in NWT businesses.

As a businessman myself, I want to thank the entrepreneurs and small businesses, economic development practitioners, and business advocates that support our territory’s business community. I addressed the Northern Business Development Practitioners conference last week. These people work hard to support business development in communities around the NWT with their ideas, energy, and ingenuity.

We will continue to contribute to their work in line with our mandate to support community economic development and diversity, and as our government continues to move forward with the suite of economic development initiatives, small businesses will continue to be at the forefront of our approach. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Ministers' statements. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment .

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Minister’s Statement 86-18(2): New Ministerial Directive- Enrolment Of Students In French First Language Programs

Ministers’ Statements

Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, earlier this year, I committed to reviewing the 2008 Ministerial Directive, Enrolment of Students in French First Language Programs. In conducting our review, we undertook a comprehensive engagement process targeting the rights holder population in the North. A total of 140 people responded either to our survey, attended a session in Hay River, or attended a session in Yellowknife. We reviewed legislation, current GNWT policies, and the responses from the stakeholder engagements and survey and conducted a jurisdictional scan.

The objective of the review was to have a directive in place by the start of the 2016-2017 school year to avoid a protracted process and enable the Commission scolaire francophone to utilize a new directive without delay.

During stakeholder engagement, two overlapping views were expressed by stakeholders. The first was a strict

interpretation, focusing on exclusive admission of

Section 23 Charter rights holders, and the second was a broader perspective, focusing on the open admission of non-rights holders. I feel the balance established by the new directive addresses the issues raised from each perspective and continues to help grow and sustain the culture of the schools and community. The Directive allows all non-right holders eligible under the directive to be admitted until the physical capacity of the school reaches 85 per cent. This translates into opportunity for population growth in the NWT’s French first language schools where each of the two schools is below capacity and ensures space for future rights-holders, as required by law.

The new Ministerial Directive,

Enrolment of Students in French First Language Programs

came into effect in August 2016, with three streams of admission for eligible non-rights holder parents:

● Reacquisition: the parent would have been a rights holder but for his or her lack of opportunity to attend a French first language school or his or her parents' lack of opportunity to attend a French first language school;

● Non-citizen francophone: the parent meets the criteria of

Section 23 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms except for the fact that he or she is not a Canadian citizen; and.

The first three requests for admission have been reviewed, resulting in approval of all three applications under the Reacquisition Stream of the directive. The new NWT directive has been compared with the recently renewed directive in the Yukon. The eligibility criteria established in the NWT and Yukon are very similar. The Yukon policy identifies two types of admission: Admission by Right and Admission by Permission. The Admission by Right categories are all established by the Charter of Rights and Freedoms and include First Language, Primary Schools Instruction, and Family Continuity.

There are seven admission streams under the Yukon policy, all but one are closely aligned with the renewed NWT Directive. The one stream that does not exist under the NWT Directive is the Yukon category for Anglophone. The Commission scolaire francophone Territoires du Nord-Ouest continues to have the authority, as delegated by me, to grant immediate admission to students who are rights-holders under

Section 23 of the Charter. I have retained administrative control over the three streams of admission outside the criteria defined by the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

Mr. Speaker, the francophone community is a significant and distinctive part of the cultural fabric of the NWT. Northern francophones have a vibrant and rich culture which certainly begins in the home, but is enhanced by the education they receive in environments dedicated to preserving and celebrating their language and culture. We want to ensure they have the ability and the capacity to do that. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Member for Frame Lake .

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Enrolment In French First Language Education Programs

Members’ Statements

Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

[Translation] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On August 11, 2016, the Minister of Education published a new directive on education in French as a first language. The directive was as a result of what was supposed to have been a collaborative process. Unfortunately, the association in Yellowknife, which launched the lawsuit, and the Francophone School Board of the Northwest Territories were not directly consulted regarding the directive and they do not support the changes.

Almost at the same moment the Yukon was able to manage legal undertakings, which were quite similar, regarding education and French as a first language but with very different results. The Government of the Yukon adopted an approach to those based on consultation and negotiations regarding admission to the francophone school system. All the parties agreed on the result and nobody had any unpleasant surprises. This is not the case where we were concerned.

The Government of the Yukon used a regulation pursuant to its Education Act, followed by written delegation of authority. The policy allowed to officially delegate the issue of admission to Francophone schools concerning the school board which wants to demonstrate transparency in the context of its annual report. In the Northwest Territories the Minister is still responsible for admission and there is no delegation of authority. Of the 28 Francophone school boards outside of Quebec ours is the only one to not enjoy such a delegation. Why?

---Unanimous consent granted

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Enrolment In French First Language Education Programs

Members’ Statements

Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In my opinion, if we had adopted a more cooperative approach we could have had the same satisfactory conclusion for everybody. I will have questions to ask the Minister of Education later today. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [Translation ends.]

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Enrolment In French First Language Education Programs

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member for Yellowknife North .

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Support For Entrepeneurs

Members’ Statements

Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As the Minister for ITI alluded to earlier this is Small Business Week and I commend him for his statement earlier. Mr. Speaker, today I want to speak about support for entrepreneurs. Entrepreneurs are people inspired by an idea, investing in possibility; people with a passion for their new concept who are creative, want to share ideas and have a willingness to take risks; people who believe in something new and groundbreaking; something that, while successful for them, can also make our community better and stronger.

So this week, Small Business Week, is the time to look at how we support entrepreneurs. If I have an idea for a new business, where do I go to get help? Who can offer me experienced advice? Where can I get some start-up money? If I'm new to business, how do I know I won't get totally drowned and blocked by rules and redundancy at every step?

Thankfully, Mr. Speaker, there are some good options out there for people with new ideas, and the Minister alluded to some of them earlier. The NWT Business Development and Investment Corporation is a Crown corporation that exists directly for the purpose of developing new business in the NWT. Similarly, the Akaitcho Business Development Corporation works to build partnerships and business skills development as well as access to business capital. Futurpreneur Canada is another business support initiative through which I have the privilege of being a business mentor to a young entrepreneur currently.

Futurpreneur is an excellent program which includes connecting an experienced business owner with young entrepreneurs, conducts business boot camps, assists with business planning and provides other support mechanisms for new start-ups. The Bizpal System started by the GNWT and just launched by the City of Yellowknife and now available in 16 NWT communities will support fledgling businesses by reducing the time and effort it takes for permitting and licensing.

Mr. Speaker, these are just some of what we can do to support the emergence of small business community with. Offering business counselling, easing of red tape and providing start-up funding are all ways to support entrepreneurs, to encourage innovation and to build wealth and capacity in our communities and across the Northwest Territories. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted

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Support For Entrepeneurs

Members’ Statements

Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you colleagues. Finally, Mr. Speaker, I believe that private enterprise entrepreneurship and diversification are the keys to our Territory's economic success. I strongly encourage our government to foster an environment which facilitates economic investment, reduces red tape and encourages creativity. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Support For Entrepeneurs

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh .

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Employment Support Programs In Small Communities

Members’ Statements

Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Mr. Speaker, today I would like to talk about employment in small communities. The Department of Education, Culture and Employment has two programs that I will speak of. Firstly, Mr. Speaker, is the Income Support Program. This program is designed to provide income to families mostly in areas where there are very few jobs. This program is needed but should not be a way of life.

The second program I wish to speak of is a Small Community Employment Support Program. The budget for this program is limited but should be increased by transferring some income support dollars into it and put people to work. Mr. Speaker, the Small Community Employment Support Program can be used for short-term employment so that people have a purpose for getting up in the morning and sending their kids to school and then going to work. Mr. Speaker, only if it is totally necessary should a family rely on income support.

Mr. Speaker, I've spoken to many people who have told me that a lack of employment is causing many problems in our communities, including disagreements over who is getting the few jobs available in the communities. The Minister of Education knows the importance of children attending school and the best way for children to attend school is giving their parents employment. I don't have to go into the positive long-term impacts of increasing attendance in our small communities, but the obvious one is increasing graduation rates.

Mr. Speaker, just one statistic I will mention is a person with grade 12 has a 25 per cent better chance of getting a job than a person with less than grade 12. Mr. Speaker, just that statistic is not all of the other benefits are associated with a healthier working society. This should be enough to make the Minister with his department to take a closer look at the Small Community Employment Support Program.

Mr. Speaker, the solution is to transfer $1 million from the Income Support Program to the Small Community Employment Support Program. This will increase employment rates in small communities by 3 to 4 per cent based on having about four to six months’ worth of employment per year. The rest of the year perhaps they could draw Employment Insurance bringing thousands of federal dollars into the communities. Mr. Speaker, this is just one initiative that can grow the economy in our small communities. There are many government programs that can be targeted to increasing employment in small communities which will improve the lives of all Northerners. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members’ statements. Member for Kam Lake .

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Kam Lake Entrepeneurs And Small Business Operators

Members’ Statements

Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

Merci, Monsieur le président. Mr. Speaker, it's Small Business Week, a time when we take a moment to appreciate the efforts of our entrepreneurs and growing economy and creating jobs and providing solutions to many Northern challenges. Can't imagine talking any further about business without talking about my riding of Kam Lake.

Mr. Speaker, often when we think of Kam Lake it's about big lots, industrial aesthetic and the sound of sled dogs. These are just a few examples of what Northerners would say if asked that question, but if you delve deeper you will find the heart of Yellowknife's entrepreneurial spirit. For over 40 years Kam Lake has been the commercial hub of our capital and home to some of the North's most successful businesses. Sometimes these entrepreneurs start out in a Quonset hut or a gravel pit, but through hard work and determination they evolve into a multimillion dollar business employing dozens of Northerners.

Since its humble beginnings and continuing into the present day, small businesses have found a home in Kam Lake from Starvin Marvin Bistro food truck serving quality meals to Paul Bros. Nextreme providing steel and services throughout the North. The variety of small businesses is incomparable to anywhere in the NWT.

At the recent Yellowknife Chamber of Commerce 70th Awards Business Gala the businesses of Kam Lake were well-represented. Ron's Auto, Weatherby Trucking, Best Movers and Basset Petroleum were all nominated for awards celebrating the dedication and hard work of these great entrepreneurs. It's wonderful to see the Yellowknife Chamber celebrate the success of our business community, and I want to commend them for keeping these awards going for 70 years and for their tireless efforts at advocating for our businesses, small and large.

I'm proud to serve and represent a constituency brimming with so many entrepreneurs and potential for growth and opportunity. These are individuals and businesses that are the backbone of our economy how are not just serving the North, they are committed to it, and I am committed to assuring their voices are heard in this House and by this government.

Mr. Speaker, again, I would like to thank all Northern entrepreneurs and I wish them well and continued success over the years to come. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Fort Simpson Papal Site Teepee Replacement

Members’ Statements

Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Today I want to speak about an amazing event that happened in Fort Simpson this past summer. For people who had the opportunity to see the Pope in Fort Simpson almost 29 years ago, on the Papal site you will notice that the teepee and the stage has been moved last year, and it is now replaced with a much larger teepee.

Mr. Speaker, it took five days for a company from B.C. to replace the empty site and turn it into what may be the tallest wooden teepee in the world. From what I understand, the teepee's structure is between 15 to 17 metres in height, the teepee is built from yellow cedar logs. According to the Deh Cho Drum, one of the logs is from a tree that is almost 750 years old.

Mr. Speaker, the Liidlii Kue First Nations Chief, Gerry Antoine, spoke about wanting to repair this site and had the support from the community. He has been heard numerous times saying that it is an important element to rebuild the community and its spirit.

Mr. Speaker this teepee is an important part of the community and we had the privilege of hosting the Pope in the community in the past. It is a historical moment and it is a historical gathering site as well for the people of the Deh Cho.

Mr. Speaker, I'm happy to say two people who are on band council are behind and supported this project. I'd like to say thank you to Kele Antoine and William Michaud, they helped bring in Timber Kings, a company based out of Williams Lake, B.C., to construct this structure.

Mr. Speaker some of my colleagues may have heard about them or even seen them on TV, this company has been in business for 43 years and is filming the fourth season of its reality TV show. This project will be part of the fourth season. I understand that the yellow cedar being used is resistant to rot, insects, and could be around for hundreds and hundreds of years. I've been told that they worked 12 hours a day to make sure the teepee was done on time.

Mr. Speaker, I would have been advised that this teepee marks the first of its kind for Timber Kings; they never built one before. The owner of the company was very impressed with the community's support and helpfulness. Mr. Speaker, the community knows that this project was going to have some challenges, and brought a trailer full of equipment, including special fasteners and tools that were not available locally. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement please.

---Unanimous consent granted

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Fort Simpson Papal Site Teepee Replacement

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I thank my colleagues for giving me this extra time. Mr. Speaker, the week of construction had a positive impact on the community and people commented on the positive energy throughout the community and region. Mr. Speaker, on September 15th the elementary school and the high school attended a fire-feeding ceremony and drum dance where the community celebrated the construction. During this ceremony they brought in an elder from Wrigley, Angus Ekenale, who sang a special song to honour the ancient spirit of the 750-year-old tree. Mr.

Speaker, I'd like to recognize this great event and the organizers for bringing this special structure to the community, region, and the NWT. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Members’ statements. Member for Yellowknife Centre .

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Value Of Start-Up Small Business Programs

Members’ Statements

Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Today I offer my congratulations to everyone who operates a small business in the NWT during this Small Business Week. Last year in Yellowknife the city licensed 146 new businesses, most of them small businesses, and it's clear that small business is a major driver in our economy, creating jobs, spending and tax revenue.

Mr. Speaker, I have some insight into the effort involved in developing an idea for a small business into a money-making proposition. I was self-employed before I was elected, but the experience I want to reflect on today is the development of our family business. First, the idea: a couple of evenings a week my partner would check the funeral home websites in her hometown, that casual interest moved her to recognize that Yellowknife didn't have a funeral home and from there into thinking about whether she wanted to become a funeral director.

She spent a year doing online courses to become a funeral director while continuing her day job as a social worker. Second, the plan: near the end of her training she spent a couple of months working in a large funeral home in Edmonton. She loved working with the families, and made a decision to go into business.

She began working out of Stanton offering funeral services in 2008. A family friend housed the caskets and hearse in her garage and the office for the business was in our laundry room. There were many sleepless nights at this point about giving up the certainty of a government cheque, benefits and pension in order to start a business. She had never run a business before and she worried about whether people would use her services. Government provided critical support by providing employment insurance while the business got rolling, alleviating some of the concern about cash flow.

Third, the expansion from funeral services to funeral home. We were referred to Akaitcho Business Development Corp. for mentoring. Together we developed a business plan. The bank agreed to finance the purchase of a building and renovations. We held our breath while acquiring hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt, but believed community would support this business. At this point, the Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment provided support by offering a year of interest payments on the commercial loan. McKenna Funeral Home opened November 1st, 2010.

This summer, with almost eight years of business, experience under our belts, we expanded the funeral home to include a garage and casket storage. The business has one full-time employee and three part-timers. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement. Thank you.

---Unanimous consent granted

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Value Of Start-Up Small Business Programs

Members’ Statements

Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Mahsi, colleagues. Masi, Mr. Speaker. We are grateful for various kinds of support provided by the federal, territorial and city governments as well as family and friends. The government programming I've mentioned, the employment insurance supplement, BDC mentoring, and ITI commercial loan interest payment support was targeted very effectively and showed that these organizations know what kind of help small businesses need in the early start-up period. Kudos to them. Our biggest thanks go to the people of Yellowknife and beyond who buy our products and services and have enabled us to turn an idea into a viable business. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Fire Prevention Month

Members’ Statements

Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, October is fire prevention month. It is a good time to remind everyone to replace the batteries in their smoke alarms, make sure the fire exits in their houses are clear of obstruction and talk to family members about an escape plan if fire breaks out. It is also an opportunity to pay tribute to those individuals in small communities who give their time, put their lives on the line and serve the communities as volunteer fire fighters.

Mr. Speaker, volunteer fire fighters provide an essential service; one that is critical to the safety and wellbeing of the community and its residents. It takes a special person to serve as a volunteer fire fighter. People who do this work give their time without being paid. They undertake the training necessary to do the job properly and safely and they contribute to the maintenance and upkeep of the community's fire-fighting equipment. They are called to work long hours at any time of the day or night and often in the worst northern weather conditions.

In addition to fighting fires, volunteer fire fighters in the Dehcho communities, such as Enterprise and Fort Providence, also serve as first responders to emergencies on the highway. Above all, these volunteers have the courage to put their own safety aside to help others in need.

Small communities need volunteers to keep our communities alive and to provide vital services such as firefighting. Firefighting is not easy work. It demands courage, commitment and personal sacrifice. In small communities, it is especially challenging to find people with the right qualities who are willing to do this work. For this reason, I want to give a special shout-out to the Enterprise Fire Department. Just last year, Enterprise was down to four or five volunteers, making it difficult to find a crew large enough to take out the fire truck and making the community rely on Hay River, almost 40 kilometres away for firefighting support.

Now, Fire Chief Blair Porter and the 11 residents that are currently signed up as volunteer fire fighters are back to a full crew. As a government, we must do everything in our power to assist community fire departments and the volunteers who make them run. We need to provide financial support to the municipalities to make sure volunteers have safe and operable equipment. We need to support communities to provide firefighting training.

We also need to make sure that the Fire Prevention Act is up to date in providing the right legislative framework for support in community fire departments. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to continue my statement. Masi.

---Unanimous consent granted

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Fire Prevention Month

Members’ Statements

Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker, and mahsi, colleagues, for giving me some more time. Later today, I will have questions for the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs about the work her department is doing to support community fire departments. Mahsi.

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Fire Prevention Month

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member for Nunakput .

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Recognition Of Lanita Thrasher, Inuvialuit Pilot

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Herbert Nakimayak

Nunakput

Thank you Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I would like to give a shout-out to a youth from Nunakput, Ms. Lanita Thrasher. Mr. Speak, Lanita is an lnuvialuit from Paulatuk who went to flight school in Red Deer and Lethbridge. Lanita spent some years in Paulatuk working at the health center as a Community Health Representative to save money for flight school, and decided to go back into aviation. As the saying goes, "once you have tasted flight you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward".

Mr. Speaker, Lanita now works for Kenn Borek Air, Aklak Air's partner. She decided that she would eventually fly twin otters in Antarctica; she is currently taking twin otter ground school in preparation for this. Lanita said she chose Kenn Borek Air because it operates from the North Pole to the South Pole, and everywhere in between and it brings her back home often. Off duty, you’ll likely find Lanita trying to catch that monster lake trout that got away four years ago at Billy Lake near Paulatuk.

Mr. Speaker, today I would like to encourage the youth of the NWT, across Canada and abroad who are working towards higher education well during their studies and work placements. Inspiration comes from hard work. It's people like Lanita Thrasher from the small communities of the NWT who dedicate their time and effort to inspire others to put their best foot forward. Quyanainni, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member for Mackenzie Delta .

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Replacement Of The Louis Cardinal Ferry

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yesterday during Committee of the Whole I talked about the importance of planning ahead when it comes to our transportation infrastructure. When the lnuvik-Tuk Highway is finished next year, Mr. Speaker, we can look forward to increased traffic and more visitors - people new to the Northwest Territories who are interested in work, tourism attractions, or even moving themselves and their families North.

Mr. Speaker, that traffic won't just be concentrated on the lnuvik-Tuk Highway. Let me go back to the example I gave yesterday, Mr. Speaker, the Louis Cardinal Ferry at Tsiigehtchic. Already, I've heard and seen line-ups at the ferry stretching back a couple hundred metres. What will the line-ups look like when visitor traffic increases? We need to plan for a larger ferry, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, what about repairs, mechanical problems, and other issues that come with an aging ferry? The average lifespan of a modern vessel is 25 to 30 years. The Louis Cardinal was built in 1972, 44 years ago, and began operations in 1978, 38 years ago. In the past, it's been discussed that the Louis Cardinal could be replaced with the retired Merv Hardie Ferry, once used at the Mackenzie River crossing near Fort Providence. But Mr. Speaker, the Merv Hardie is even older, it sailed its first voyage in 1972, before the Louis Cardinal even hit the water.

For a practical investment that serves the needs of the Northwest Territories residents as well as the territorial tourism economy, we must consider replacing the Louis Cardinal Ferry altogether. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you, colleagues. Earning your driver's licence is a milestone for young people and a stepping stone to many skilled jobs, but highways, Mr. Speaker, are not the only way to get around. Strong and comprehensive transportation capacity liberates and empowers communities and individuals. For example:

● operating four-wheelers and snowmobiles helps us access the land and our traditional practices;

● barges bring essential supplies into our communities;

● ferries like the Louis Cardinal, which makes stops at three landing sites, connect communities to each other for supplies, and to opportunities for growth, and provide employment opportunities for local people.

We know that capital planning is a slow process. With that in mind, it's time to start planning for the necessary replacement of this vessel. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I'll have questions for the Minister later today.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member for Sahtu .

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Tsa Tue International Biosphere Reserve

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today my Member's statement is the Deline Biosphere Reserve. Mr. Speaker, on August 11, 2016, I had the privilege to join the community of Deline in celebrating the Tsa Tue International Biosphere Reserve, an ecologically important area covering 93,313 square kilometres in central NWT including Great Bear Lake and a portion of its watershed, was added to the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization's best known as UNESCO World Network of Biosphere Reserves on March 19, 2016.

Mr. Speaker, the UNESCO designation is a first for the NWT, the first in Canada North of 60, and the first led entirely by Indigenous communities. Mr. Speaker, on behalf of the Sahtu Region, I would like to congratulate the people of Deline and other Sahtu communities in ensuring our waters in the Sahtu are well cared for. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member for Hay River North .

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Northland Utilities

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R.J. Simpson

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, Northland Utilities has been maintaining a high profile lately to combat what they claim is an expropriation of their assets by the GNWT. That language is a little strong for my liking; however, I understand where they’re coming from. After seeing what happened in Hay River, with the town accepting a proposal from the NWT Power Corporation over Northland Utilities, it’s no wonder they would think that the Yellowknife franchise might be next on NTPC's list. If it goes the same way as Hay River that's essentially game over for Northland Utilities in the Territory.

I'm aware that it was the Town of Hay River's decision to accept the Power Corp's proposal. Everyone is tired of the power rates we pay in the NWT and the Town can't be blamed for taking what the market offered, but I'm sure the Power Corp's proposal wouldn't have been put forward without political support.

I often wonder why the government chose to take this confrontational approach to dealing with NUL instead of seeking ways to cooperate. Northland Utilities is an ATCO company. ATCO is a global corporation based in Canada with $19 billion in assets. ATCO Electrical owns almost 90,000 kilometres of transmission lines in Alberta, and last year completed and energized the longest transmission line in Alberta's history. That's just one of their successful mega projects. In addition, they know the North; NUL has been here for over 60 years. There's no question when it comes to the company's electrical experience and expertise.

Further, I can attest that Northland Utilities, in Hay River at least, has always been an upstanding corporate citizen. Their employees are active volunteers in the community and NUL is always a prominent sponsor of local events. Despite all this, Northland says that this government won't respond to their emails or return their calls. The government recently announced the creation of another NWT Energy Plan. I assume that part of this plan, as is part of every other plan that's been put forward, will include major upgrades to our hydro-generation and transmissions systems.

Despite these recurring aspirations, there's been virtually no major hydro development in decades. Mega projects, hydro and otherwise, are always discussed by the GNWT but rarely come to fruition.

Why, when we have a company like NUL with access to the assets and experience of ATCO, why don’t we strive for more cooperation? I’m not advocating a merger between Power Corp. and Northland Utilities, but why haven’t we engaged in talks with them to see if we can tap into some of ATCO's capital and expertise. I'll have questions for the Minister. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi

Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Inuvik Boot Lake .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Merci, Monsieur le President. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to recognize members of the francophone School Board: Ms. Chartuard, president; President of the National Francophone School Boards of Ontario, Mr. Mario Pelletier; Mr.

Bernard Lesage, Monsieur Kevin Bell, Alberta; Monsieur Marc-Andre Ouellette, British Columbia; Monsieur Edgar Galant, P.E.I.; Monsieur Layonar Lefore, Nova Scotia; Monsieur Luc Brisebois, Nunavut; Monsieur Jean Lemay, Ontario; Monsieur Alpha Barry, Saskatchewan; Monsieur Ali Chiasson, Newfoundland and Labrador; Monsieur Simon Cloutier, Northwest Territories; Monsieur Jean-Sebastien Blay, Yukon; and Monsieur Roger Paul, Executive Director of la Federation National des conseil-scolaire francophones and of the regroupement national direction general de l’ eduction.

Also present, Monsieur Alain Laberge, President Regroupement National direction generale de l’education and Superintendent of the Division Scolaire Franco-Manitoba. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to welcome Madam Yvonne Careen, Superintendent of la Commission Scolaire Francophone des Territoires du Nord-Ouest, and some of their colleagues from l’association des direction generale de l’education de l’ouest et du Nord ADEON. Also, Jean de Dieu Tuyishime, Executive Director of la Federation Franco-tenoise.

As well, Mr. Speaker, I'd like to give a warm welcome to students and staff from Ecole Allain St-Cyr in Yellowknife and the francophone community members. Merci. Welcome. Also, Mr. Speaker, I would like to welcome and recognize the Aurora College fourth year nursing students and their instructor Jodi Brennan, and the second year social work students and their instructor Susan Fitzky to our proceedings today, and everybody that's joining us. It's nice to have a full gallery during our proceedings. Welcome. Thank you.

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Well done.

---Laughter

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Jackson Lafferty

Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Kam Lake .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

Merci, Monsieur le President [Translation] I would like to also welcome representatives today, the Francophone National School Boards; particularly I want to welcome Mr. Allain Laberge and Madam Yvonne Careen, General Director of the Francophone School Board. Thank you for being with us today. [Translation ends.]

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Frame Lake .

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Merci Monsieur le President, my wife, she's sitting in the gallery today; it doesn't happen very often, but I certainly appreciate her presence today. I'd also [Translation] I'd like to say welcome to all the students from the Allain St-Cyr School and all the teachers. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [Translation ends]

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Yellowknife Centre .

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. In the public gallery today is my constituent Josee Clermont. Madam Clermont is the Directrice Generale of college nordique here in Yellowknife and I welcome her and all our guests to the Assembly today. I'd also like to recognize Steve Budgell, my friend and neighbour who is in the fourth year of the nursing program at Aurora College. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh .

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Marci cho, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to recognize two pages from Dettah: Joseph Charlo-Lafferty and Brianna Nitsiza. Also, Mr. Speaker, I'd like to also recognize Mary Rose Sundberg, also from Detah, that's our interpreter today. Marci cho.

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Jackson Lafferty

Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Yellowknife North .

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to welcome everybody to the gallery today but in particular I want to take this opportunity to recognize, because it is Small Business Week, small business owner and resident of Yellowknife North Mr. Etienne Croteau, a small business owner for a company named Flavour Trader. Welcome to the House. Thank you.

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

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Jackson Lafferty

Recognition of visitors in the gallery. If we missed anyone in the gallery, welcome to the Chamber. It's always good to have an audience. Masi for participating. Item 6, acknowledgements. Item 7, oral questions. Member for Frame Lake .

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Question 353-18(2): Ministerial Directive On Enrolment Of Students In French First Language Programs

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment .

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Question 353-18(2): Ministerial Directive On Enrolment Of Students In French First Language Programs

Oral Questions

Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. During the consultation period we heard from many stakeholders. We had public engagements here in Yellowknife as well as Hay River. The information that we received, our jurisdictional scan, as well as looking at our policies we thought we were moving ahead; that the ministerial directive was good in the way it was presented. It is better than the 2008 ministerial directive. There is improvements and we did get consultation and engagements with community groups here in Yellowknife as well as Hay River. Moving forward, we thought that was a good process. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 353-18(2): Ministerial Directive On Enrolment Of Students In French First Language Programs

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

I do appreciate the response from the Minister and his work on this issue. Unfortunately, in the Yukon their directive was released just less than a couple of weeks later and headed that territory off in a much different direction, and a more collaborative one. So we had received communications from CSFTNO, a letter dated September 6, 2016 with comments on the directive and requesting changes to it. So will the Minister commit to reopen those discussions with CSFTNO and APADY and find a more workable directive?

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Question 353-18(2): Ministerial Directive On Enrolment Of Students In French First Language Programs

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

CSFTNO were part of the consultation processes, the engagements. As I mentioned in my Minister’s Statement earlier, we did get three applications that under the new directive they were allowed into the school under the acquisition portion and, as I mentioned as well, that both schools are both French first language schools are under the utilization rates, and actually we're building on the one here in Yellowknife that will address the enrolments and the utilization rate there. We actually went above and beyond in terms of putting two classrooms on top of that to address the enrolment rate should more admissions go into the ESC in future years.

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Question 353-18(2): Ministerial Directive On Enrolment Of Students In French First Language Programs

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

I appreciate the efforts of the Minister, as I said before, but I don't think he actually answered my question. There's been communications now from CSFTNO, specifically about the ministerial directive with corrections to the jurisdictional scan that was prepared and raising comments and concerns around the directive. Does the Minister actually intend to respond to that communication and has he opened up further discussions to improve and set that directive off in the right direction again?

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Question 353-18(2): Ministerial Directive On Enrolment Of Students In French First Language Programs

Oral Questions

Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, and I apologize to the Member. I just gave the information in terms of why we're not going to revisit the ministerial directive, because the enrolment rates were low, a lot of engagements and consultations went on already. In terms of the continued work forward and the letter, we did have to translate all the jurisdictional scan information, we got that done, and we will be responding to CSFTNO and APADY with our response as well.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Frame Lake .

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Question 353-18(2): Ministerial Directive On Enrolment Of Students In French First Language Programs

Oral Questions

Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I'm glad to hear that the Minister does intend to respond to the letter from CSFTNO. But if I heard him correct, I think he said that he's not willing to reopen the directive. That would be extremely unfortunate, Mr. Speaker.

So I just wonder then, how does the Minister propose to develop a better working relationship with APADY and CSFTNO for French first language education in the NWT so we don't end up back in the courts? That's what we all want to avoid. So I think the community's pleading for some flexibility to get us more towards what they have in the Yukon. Can the Minister provide some assurance to this House and the public that he's willing to re-examine the directive and get us off in a better direction? Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 353-18(2): Ministerial Directive On Enrolment Of Students In French First Language Programs

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

That's where we don't want to end up again, in the court house and then have a court order against the government. We did get that court order, we appealed it, CSFTNO appealed it, we're going with what was in the court order to provide what was needed. As I mentioned, we are going above and beyond to add those two new school rooms. A lot of engagement was done. I do believe that we're building a stronger relationship with the French community throughout the Northwest Territories to address some of their concerns.

I committed, when I took this position, to review the ministerial directive, I did that. I think it's better than what it was when we first started this government. When we get to those utilization rates and to prevent us from going to the court room, as I said, they're below utilization right now, then perhaps we can look at revisiting it then.

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Question 353-18(2): Ministerial Directive On Enrolment Of Students In French First Language Programs

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 354-18(2): Funding For Ecole Allain St-Cyr Expansion Project

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

Merci, Monsieur le Président. [Translation] Today I have a question for the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, and this question will be in French. The construction project of the Allain St-Cyr School is going forward and the Minister is negotiating with the the Minister of Heritage Canada to get more funding. The Minister of Education is only asking for additional funding, twinning funds to expand the size of the gymnasium from 404 square metres to 456 square metres. The Minister of Education says that the rest of the construction can wait and can be built in another phase.

The francophones have been waiting for over 10 years almost for the second phase of the construction at the Allain St-Cyr School. My question, wouldn't it be wiser to ask for additional funding from Heritage Canada to meet the needs of the francophone community during the same construction project? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [Translation ends]

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Question 354-18(2): Funding For Ecole Allain St-Cyr Expansion Project

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Department has been consistent in ensuring that our obligations under our capital standards are being met across the Northwest Territories and that any construction over and above these standards must be met with 100 per cent third-party funding. We have 49 schools in the Northwest Territories, we've got to make sure that we're providing education to all students, all 8,300 students across the Northwest Territories.

The Member is right, we did put in a proposal to Heritage Canada. They haven't even done a callout, we're ahead of the game, we're asking them, looking at what we can get provided moving forward. But anything above and beyond what our standards are for building capital in the NWT has to be 100 per cent funded from a third party and we are following what the court order has said that we had to build. As I mentioned, we're putting two new classrooms on top of that. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

[Translation] Given that Heritage Canada could pay up to 50 per cent of costs for shared spaces like a gymnasium, home economics, and given that Heritage Canada can pay up to 100 per cent of community spaces, such as the pre-kindergarten, daycare and offices for organizations, why does the Minister of Education not take advantage of this opportunity and to ask for additional funding right away, so to finally meet the needs of the Francophone community? [Translation ends]

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

As I mentioned, we did put in a proposal going forward to Heritage Canada. They responded to our staff, we're in dialogue right now, and we're looking at ways that -- they're asking for clarity on some of the questions that were provided. What we're going forward with is a schematic design that's built on our standards for capital projects from the government side. Any further developments I think needs to come from CSFTNO, and if the CSFTNO want to look at building more onto the school, then I'd encourage them to continue working with our department to find ways so we can support them to get to that next level.

But right now, we are meeting our obligations under GNWT, under our policies to meet the regulations under capital infrastructure investments.

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

[Translation] When will the Minister of Education make its application to the Minister of Heritage Canada for the complete construction project? [Translation ends]

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Mr. Speaker, as I mentioned, we've already submitted a proposal, it's ahead of the game. Heritage Canada hasn't asked for callout for proposals. We're hoping to hear something by January or February where those discussions have taken place. Any further opportunities that myself and my department can have in engaging and discussing these matters with the Minister of Heritage Canada to come to a solution that's happy, that'll make everyone happy, I think. We'll take those opportunities as soon as we can. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

[Translation] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If the Minister of Education can share those application letters with the francophone community and with the other Members here before January-February. If we can see those applications, that is can everybody here and up there see those applications? [Translation ends].

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm sure we can share with the APADY and CFSTNO, and even though we did put in one proposal to see if we can offset some of these costs, it doesn't mean that we couldn’t put in another application when they do that call out afterwards. But what we did put in, in discussions with CFSTNO, in some of our initial meetings, we want to see what results come back to us in January-February. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 355-18(2): Enhancing Small Communities Employment Support Programs

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Marci Cho, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the Minister of Education questions on my Member’s statement. I would like to ask the Minister if he is willing to review the Income Support Program in small communities, Employment Support Program, to look at the feasibility of transferring budgets to make the Small Communities Employment Support Program more substantial. Thank you.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 355-18(2): Enhancing Small Communities Employment Support Programs

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I know when we went through the business planning process for main estimates for 2017-2018 we had some really good discussions on some ways and unique ways that we can get people back into the workforce through our Income Assistance Program, and the Member brought a very interesting concept forward and it's something that the department can look into. Obviously, you don’t want to have people relying on income assistance rather than finding ways to get them into the workforce, into training and skill development and becoming a more active member of society.

So we are looking at those and looking at other options, and we have some decisions to come forward with we will bring it forward to committee and Members. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Mr. Speaker, some programs that are being delivered sometimes comes with some pre-requisites that individuals would at the end of the training have to have full-time jobs, and in our small communities there's no full-time jobs available for the most part. I'd like to ask the Minister if he could review the Small Communities Employment Support Program to remove any barriers that may prevent the program from being easily accessed.

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

We're always looking at reviewing our programs to make them more efficient and more effective for the residents of Northwest Territories. The CSCCS Program wasn't fully utilized over the last few years. I believe we had over 300 people who took

part in it last year and got trained and skill developments. Myself, I just recently went to a labour market FPT meeting down at Quebec City where we're looking at getting more incremental dollars that might be able to offset some of those costs, but we can review it. The dollars have been fully utilized. Maybe we can do a better job of promoting it and getting information to the Members to share with their constituents, but that is a goal is to get residents in our small communities trained in skill development, and that's where our Skills 4 Success Action Plan and Strategic Plan is very critical moving forward in this area.

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Mr. Speaker, many of the job and employment opportunities I speak of would be projects at the community level, various projects that the community could carry out as part of employment. I'd like to ask the Minister if it would be possible for the Minister to work with his department to direct the client service officers to work with the communities to look at all possibilities of employment in small communities.

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Question 355-18(2): Enhancing Small Communities Employment Support Programs

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

CSO is a very integral part of our department when it comes to income assistance and programs. They do a great job in providing information to our clients, as well as our Career Development Officers, and we're just finishing up a one-year pilot program with Employment Transition Officers that actually go into the communities. Some of our Current Development Officers also go into the communities to provide education, training, information on resume writings, skill development and other areas in terms of literacy and numeracy to help people find jobs who apply for training workshops and finding those kind of things. So, yes, our staff is already kind of doing those things.

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Question 355-18(2): Enhancing Small Communities Employment Support Programs

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Jackson Lafferty

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Can the Minister work with other Ministers in Cabinet to utilize other government programs. I spoke of other government programs that can, I guess, create employment in the small communities. So can the Minister commit to the House to working with other Ministers in order to look at all the employment possibilities at the small communities? Thank you.

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Yes, I will commit to doing that. I chair one of the education training and youth committees, and I want to make sure that it's on the agenda and that it is a priority especially for the small communities where it's needed most and finding the unique and innovative ways to get our residents educated, trained and also into the workforce.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 356-18(2): Northern Participation In Highway Construction Contracts

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Mr. Speaker, with the construction season for highways coming to an end, as we heard in the House yesterday, Mr. Speaker, with that in mind, can the Minister of Transportation explain how the department maximizes its involvement of northern businesses?

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 356-18(2): Northern Participation In Highway Construction Contracts

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Department of Transportation uses every opportunity to maximize northern involvement in residents and delivering programs and services to upgrade and maintain all the highways in the Northwest Territories including the Liard Highway. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

I again thank the Minister for his answer. It was a little bit short and it could have been more elaborate, but we'll work on that. Mr. Speaker, last session I spoke about how the department was able to guarantee that companies' commitment was upheld for northern involvement. Mr. Speaker, can the Minister please explain to this House what mechanisms are used to ensure Northern involvement are in these contracts?

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

Mr. Speaker, there's various mechanisms in place to ensure the Northern involvement in our contracts. This includes assigning a project officer to the project to monitor the subcontractor's involvement during the construction of the project. In addition, the contractor submits an employment record to the department each month with the progress of payments' request, and these reports are tracked to the employment records, so that confirms northern involvement of these individuals on the project.

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

I thank the Minister for that answer. This past summer, the contract was awarded to a southern company for Highway No. 7. Mr. Speaker, can the Minister explain how much local workforce was used for this project?

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

With respect to this northern contractor and the employment of residents in Fort Liard on this contract, I'm glad to report to the House that almost 31 per cent of the workforce in June was from the community, 40 per cent in July and 43 per cent in August, and that includes some residents from Nahanni Butte as well.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker, and I thank the Minister for his answer. I was actually really impressed with those numbers considering I heard numbers lower than that before, so I'm very happy to hear that. Mr. Speaker, can the Minister provide us with what other work went to local companies, small businesses, in that area for this contract? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

The contractor has also hired a gravel truck from Beaver Enterprises for resurfacing work and has used a local hotel for accommodation, but the contractor is also negotiating right now with Beaver Enterprises for the project cleanup of this project. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 357-18(2): Support For Day Homes And Day Cares In The Sahtu Region

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question here today is directed to the Minister of ECE following up from the June 7th Hansard here on the issues of day homes and day cares. If the Minister could elaborate on what has been in place here going back to the question that I brought up at the time here that there would be those facilities rolled out in October. So if I can get a status reply? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 357-18(2): Support For Day Homes And Day Cares In The Sahtu Region

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. With all the communities we do have some communities that have early childhood programs, some that don't. We also have funding allocated to some of these communities. For instance, in Deline pre-school we have 15 pre-school spaces. We fund just over $37,000 for that. We have funding for the Behdzi Ahda First Nation still there's no licensed program but we do have the funding there. There's funding that's allocated to Norman Wells to do some work; nothing has come to date yet; we're still trying to find an organization or group to work with.

In Tulita we do have 20 pre-school spaces and we currently fund them over $40,000. Mr. Speaker, I might add with start-up costs, we do have a very good incentive package for organizations, even individuals that own their own home that might want to start up a daycare or a day home and we can provide that information to the Member that he can provide to his communities as well. Thank you.

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

It's very good to hear that the programs are there to help the working parents that are having their children attend school, and the ones that are not are looking at opportunities such as the program funding available to initiate a day home. Can the Minister elaborate on any facilities in the day home category in the five Sahtu communities?

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Currently, I don't think there's any day homes that are licensed right now in the Sahtu communities. I can go and do a scan and see if there are any and also develop some packages that we could hand out to people who own their own homes and who might want to start up a day home. Like I said, we have a very good incentive package, but I can get that information and get it to the Member.

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

I'm glad to hear that the programs and services and criteria and guidelines are there as well as the money is there. Would the Minister commit to having these opportunities for funding to support the day home through a briefing presentation to the community by community leadership in the five communities?

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Question 357-18(2): Support For Day Homes And Day Cares In The Sahtu Region

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Since I've been in the position, I've been to about 20 of the 33 communities in the NWT speaking on all the initiatives through the Department of ECE, and listening to the concerns of the people. I am looking forward to doing a tour of the Sahtu, not only bringing information on early childhood programming, the day homes, the daycares, but also all information that we take control of in the Department of Education, Culture and Employment, and we'll work with the Member to get that tour set up at some point.

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Question 357-18(2): Support For Day Homes And Day Cares In The Sahtu Region

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Yellowknife Centre .

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Question 358-18(2): Addressing Core Housing Needs

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Masi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, during the sitting in June, Members on this side of the House moved a housing motion in which we requested that the Minister take action on the level of core need, which is at 20 per cent for the NWT, including investing, coming up with a fully costed comprehensive plan and so on. We received her response last week and it doesn't address the questions we asked. So my first question is: how is the NWT Housing Corporation going to reduce core housing need? Thank you.

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Question 358-18(2): Addressing Core Housing Needs

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Jackson Lafferty

Minister of NWT Housing Corporation.

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Question 358-18(2): Addressing Core Housing Needs

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

The other major thing we're doing is our engagement survey which we're putting out to every single user of Housing services, hopefully within this next coming up month, and then we'll be doing a cost analysis based on what people say. I've been hearing in the communities that home ownership is a big need within the communities, and so while we're in the process of looking at cost analysis between home ownership and public housing. So once we've done the engagement process, we've gotten some kind of contribution, we find out what the federal government is doing within a national strategy at that point then we'll be able to provide a cost analysis and a comprehensive plan. Thank you.

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you to you, Minister, for that response. In the response to the motion the government writes: "The GNWT has made affordable, adequate and suitable housing one of its highest priorities, spending approximately 8 per cent of its budget on social and affordable housing compared to a national average of 1 per cent." Mr. Speaker, can the Minister tell me whether she thinks that's an adequate amount of spending for the condition and availability of housing in the territory?

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

I do recognize that the Government of the Northwest Territories is spending eight times the amount of funding that is provided across the other jurisdictions. So I think that we have to recognize that we are spending a lot more than other jurisdictions. We also have to recognize that we have a small population base and our federal funding is really limited. So the fact that the GNWT is spending that amount on housing shows our commitment that we do care about housing within the Northwest Territories and it is a priority for our government.

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Again, thank you to the Minister for that. The fact is, Mr. Speaker, that 8 per cent is not making a difference to the core housing need in the territory, and the availability of housing especially here in Yellowknife where the waiting list is about 180, across the whole NWT about 600. So I would like to hear from the Minister whether there is a plan to increase the amount of spending on social housing.

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

At this point, like I had said previously, we are in the process of just rolling out our engagement strategy. After that is all received back, we will be doing a cross-analysis, so it's a little bit premature of me to actually approach my colleagues and ask for additional monies when I don't know if we're using the monies that we are providing at the moment appropriately.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Yellowknife Centre .

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Julie Green

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Finally today, a couple of timing questions. The first is, when does the Minister expect to conclude the negotiations with the federal government for more money? The second is, when does she expect to report to the House on the information she's collected from stakeholders? Thank you.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. There's two questions, but it's up to the Minister if she wants to answer one or two questions.

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm going to try to attempt both. So the federal negotiations is not up to me actually, it is a federal government ruling, and so we are advocating very strongly and, as soon as the federal government lets us know when they've developed their strategy, at that point I will know what the timing is. I'm not sure that they know at this point either. The engagement survey that we're putting out, we are allowing two months to people within the communities to actually provide their feedback because we do want as many people to answer the survey as possible.

So we are recognizing that we need to need to provide them a little bit of time. Once the survey results are compiled, we will provide an interim report to the MLAs and we will continue to provide reports to the MLAs on the progress of that engagement survey process.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Deh Cho .

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Question 359-18(2): Updating The Fire Protection Act

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my questions are to the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs . Under the GNWT's mandate, MACA has a responsibility to update the Fire Prevention Act to better protect public and private property from fire. Can the Minister advise the House on the progress of this work? What changes to the Act has been considered? Mahsi.

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Jackson Lafferty

Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs .

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. MACA's in the process, we've done some research over the years, we're actually just in the process of determining the stakeholder engagement process that we're expecting that'll roll out over the summer of 2016. Once it's finished, then we'll be looking at various things within the act. The act hasn't been updated since the 1950s, very small thing, so it's a lot of work and we'll be looking at a full review of the act in total. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Usually in a legislative process the way that I think we understand it on this side of the House is that there's an issue and the department begins research, as the Minister has stated, that then there's a legislative proposal that comes to the House, then goes through readings, then it's perhaps brought to the committee, then there's a level of public consultation. What is the timing for this legislation to be introduced in the Legislative Assembly?

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

Again, it's really hard to put a definite timeline on that. We do need to do the public engagement strategy, it will go to MLAs, it depends on their timeline, recognizing that they are very busy within their committees and they have a lot of things to put forward. I'm not sure if the MLAs would like to do a public engagement of their own on that, so it is dependent on the process of government. But we are committed; we are trying to get this act passed within this legislative term.

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

The Minister had stated that the old piece of legislation is from the 1950s. I think then, you know, fire alarms along telephone poles were kind of the usual practice then. Then most recently what we have been confronted with is the question of liabilities, at the same time hazardous materials in fire situations. Is the department proposing any initiatives designed to support communities and their volunteer fire departments?

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

The department has actually done quite a bit to support firefighters. We recognize the importance of firefighters and we really value the services. It is a huge honour to be able to represent the firefighters within the Northwest Territories. It's a huge honourable field that they go into, and so we're cognitive of that.

We've done quite a bit of things. We've released our volunteer firefighter recruitment and retention toolkit for the community governments, that's done. We've established a web-based community fire protection page for community governments and fire departments to access information and resources, that's completed. We've developed the decision-making tools for communities to help identify and allocate adequate resources for community fire protection, that's completed.

We've implemented a community fire service presentation to help educate elected officials on the roles and responsibilities and success factors, completed. We've also done the development of an annual fire prevention program, that’s also completed. So we do value our firefighters within the Northwest Territories and we take seriously the work that they do within the communities and we're doing whatever we can to support them.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Deh Cho .

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to thank the Minister for her reply and outlining the legislative process and the level of consultation that might occur. She seems to be suggesting that this side of the House would kind of determine the timeline and how fast perhaps the turnaround of the draft legislation could be prepared. But, you know, if we had this way on this side of the House, one of the initiatives that has been outstanding is the progress in terms of dealing with highway emergency.

Would this department, in terms of engaging stakeholders, including fire departments and citizens of the North, would the Minister perhaps consider and state to this House whether a movement towards highway rescue services will be also considered in the draft legislation? Mahsi.

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

We are working across the departments to find our way forward with the ground ambulance services and the highway rescue, and we are hoping that we can actually address that act as well within this legislation.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Mackenzie Delta .

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Question 360-18(2) Replacement Of The Louis Cardinal Ferry

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, follow-up to my Member’s Statement. I have a few questions for the Minister of Transportation . I'd like to ask the Minister, what criteria does the department use to determine when the ferry vessel must be replaced? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister of Transportation .

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Question 360-18(2) Replacement Of The Louis Cardinal Ferry

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The department is continually working to improve the transportation system. Available resources rely on asset management tools which we use continually on an ongoing basis to make strategic operational decisions around all our assets. But moving forward, we have to maximize what we have with the limited funding we have, and that makes choices pretty tough sometimes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, what is the average estimated cost of a ferry vessel replacement?

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Question 360-18(2) Replacement Of The Louis Cardinal Ferry

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

Upgrading the Louis Cardinal to a larger vessel wouldn't be cost effective at this time we believe. But to answer the question directly, it's approximately $10 million to replace that ferry.

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